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| ===[[Scenteral Intelligence Map]] (and subpages) and [[Omnimap]]===
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| The [[Scenteral Intelligence Map]] has not been [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Scenteral_Intelligence_Map&action=history substantively edited] for at least two years, and its [[Talk:Scenteral Intelligence Map|talk page]] gives similar evidence. The website (urbandead.info) from which the information is derived has also been down for a while (the last [http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://sim.urbandead.info Wayback Machine record] for sim.urbandead.info is August 2010). Given how the SIM is referenced on prominent pages ([[Suburb#More Maps|here]] and [[Maps#Various Maps|here]]), its broken state can confuse new Wiki users. Since it doesn't appear to be fixable, I nominate SIM for deletion.
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| I also nominate the other maps that rely on its data which are also broken, and affiliated pages:
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| *[[Scenteral Intelligence Map/grid map|/grid map]], [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/grid map/show buildings|/show buildings]] and [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/grid map/show streets|/show streets]]. None of these pages have been edited since 2009, nor have their talk pages.
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| *Pages that are pieces of the map, like the [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/legend|legend]] and [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/grid legend|grid legend]], [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/bottom|/bottom]], [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/left|/left]], [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/right|/right]], [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/sub names|/sub named]], and [[Scenteral Intelligence Map/top|/top]].
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| *The four images in [[:Category:Scenteral Intelligence Map]].
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| *Redirect pages [[SIMcat]] and [[SIMgrid]].
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| *[[Scenteral Intelligence Map/update info]], [[Project SIMPLE]] and [[Scentertal Int Map Helper]].
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| *[[Scenteral Intelligence Map/History]] and the images in [[:Category:Scenteral Intelligence Map/history|its category]], since it only contains information from a few months of 2008.
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| *The [[Omnimap]] (which relies on SIM data and also hasn't been edited since 2009) and its affiliated pages, [[Omnimap/Elements]], [[Template:Omnimap Mall Status]] and [[Template:Omnimap Suburb Status]], plus the images in [[:Category:Omnimap]].
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| This is a lot, and it's my first proposed deletion (and first action in the UDWiki:Administration space other than voting) so if I've horribly screwed up, please forgive me! Also, if these pages should be voted on separately, feel free to split them up. [[User:Bob Moncrief|Bob Moncrief]] 22:33, 25 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' per above. I also offer to eliminate links to the maps and affiliated pages, to prevent a proliferation of redlinks. [[User:Bob Moncrief|Bob Moncrief]] 22:33, 25 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' At least until Karek tells me its dead. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 22:44, 25 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' God damed domain squatters. Karke, you gonna find a new domain? ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:19, 26 June 2012 (UTC)</sub>
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| #'''Keep''' isn't there a way to keep it? at least for posterity--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>01:32, 26 June 2012 </small>
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| #'''Keep''' - SIM and Omnimap were excellent creations and were great experiments of automated metadata making something that was usable for everyone. Did it work? For a while I guess, but even though it's long since dead I still love all this history being here- if only because if someone wants to pick up a similar project like this, reading this may give them a better understandings of the pros, cons, and issues SIM encountered before them. A template explaining that the project is dead wouldn't go amiss, but I'd avoid deleting it all from existence, especially since Swiers/Karek's sister website probably won't be coming back. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:53, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - the main page hasn't been edited for a year, should we delete that? We don't get rid of things just because we aren't actively using them.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 09:14, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - I'm with the others on this one. We don't erase history. That said, adding notes where relevant to indicate that it's no longer active may be in order, since it can indeed be confusing for new users. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:46, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| :Making things less confusing for new users is my goal. Would it be acceptable to remove the links to the maps on [[Suburb]] and [[Maps]]? That way new users won't be confused but everything will stay as a historical record. [[User:Bob Moncrief|Bob Moncrief]] 16:08, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| ::Suburb- definitely. Maps- perhaps add a section at the bottom called "defunct maps" and have SIM and Omni there? If not, yeah just remove it I'd say. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:13, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| :::I've added notes on the relevant pages, removed them from Suburb and created a new "Historical Maps" section on Maps. What's the procedure for withdrawing a deletion nomination? Thanks so much! [[User:Bob Moncrief|Bob Moncrief]] 16:36, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| ::::that fact that you were the only person that voted to delete the page. it's failed. shorty should be around any second to archive it.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>16:48, 26 June 2012 </small>
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| :::::Yeah, by default it would simply get archived after two weeks, but since you've expressed an interest in withdrawing it, we can go ahead and archive it early. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:14, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| '''Withdrawn''' early. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:16, 26 June 2012 (BST)
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| ===[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett]]===
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| Worth keeping, or worthless comedy article? --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 17:33, 31 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' - Its funny, but with its [[The Blitz|counterpart page]] deleted, it loses much of its context. Plus I think everyone's over Corn again now. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)</sub>
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| #'''Keep''' - Anything even barely funny should be kept if it's in user namespace. If it was mainspace I'd say delete it, but as it's in your user space it's doing no harm.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 01:28, 1 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:59, 1 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - Needs moar Mayhem Bunny images, though. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 19:31, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Historic Comedy!''' {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:04, 4 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Comedy'''--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:15, 5 June 2012 </small>
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| '''Kept''' with 5 votes to 1 at the time of voting closing.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 23:47, 17 June 2012 (BST)
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| ===[[User Hub]]===
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| Massively out of date, and probably never used.
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| #'''Delete''' --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 17:26, 31 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' - Unless there's interest in updating it, in which case I'll consider changing my vote. I used to prune it, but enough people yelled at me over pruning it that I eventually stopped bothering with it altogether. I'd love to see it pruned and made useful again. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:37, 31 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - Something being massively out of date and unused implies making it up to date and usable, unless making it so isn't doable. We should and would delete many wiki pages that are out of date and unused by the deletion request's argument–e.g. most location pages, and [[CP]]. ([[Technical Help]] would be a better example for deletion.) --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:26, 31 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - As Gnome. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)</sub>
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| #'''Keep''' - But maybe it could be good to no longer link it from the sidebar until it's up to date, if possible. If it fulfils some degree of utility I'm happy with keeping it around.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 01:30, 1 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:59, 1 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' - only created to keep the whiners happy when we deleted their user page redirects from the main namespace. It's useless <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 16:32, 1 June 2012 (BST)</small>
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| #:I used it a few weeks ago to collect names. It's just a list of usernames. It's a place to look for users; this is a use, though it's not frequently used. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:49, 1 June 2012 (BST)
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| #::Not since the [[Special:ListUsers|system update]] it [[Special:ActiveUsers|isn't]]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:26, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #:::Funnily enough, I used the [[User Hub]] list because it contained users who have not edited in a while, but their name was still left on the User Hub. (Special:ListUsers was impractical for this.) It might be better used, instead of a list of active users (which you point out is already supplied), as a list of "noteworthy" users. I don't think that anyone would care to do this, or that there'd be much point to it. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 15:17, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' - As boxy, it was mostly made out of a fit over DDR's user redirect deletion to shut them up. It's never really seen use or had one. I'm indifferent to it's existence which, for me, is enough for a delete when I can't find a single valid reason to have it at all. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 20:47, 1 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep/Clean it up''' -- Lets just delete everyone on there who hasn't edited the wiki for a certain amount of time or some other qualification. Since I do occasionally use it to find people as I'm sure other do. {{User:Mazu/sig}} 03:34, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #:It's one thing to say that. It's another to do it. When my roommates and I were cleaning out the fridge awhile back, we had a tendency to say, "No, that's still good, don't throw it out," even though we never identified the owner. The next time we cleaned out the fridge, those things were still there, so we made a new rule: someone has to claim it, otherwise it'll just continue to rot and will need to be thrown out later. The same applies here. If someone wants to claim it and clean it, great, let's keep it. If no one will claim it and clean it up, then it will just continue to rot. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:12, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #::Im currently deleting anyone without year '12 contribs. At this rate its going to be a very short list. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 10:00, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #:::Why? Just user the three system pages we have for browsing user lists. ''Not'' including the ones for New users and user rights. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:26, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #::::Fuck. Thats a much better idea. --[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]<sup>[[User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett|less]]</sup>[[User:Rosslessness|ness]] 10:35, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete'''--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>13:17, 3 June 2012 </small>
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| #'''Delete''' – Never cared or found a use for it. Although the restriction against User:-space redirects is stupid, too. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:07, 4 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' - I'd bet that a good number of people never used this, and a good portion of them didn't even know it existed. - [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 18:40, 4 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' It's shit. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 23:17, 4 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' - More or less, I agree with Revenant. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 13:09, 5 June 2012 (BST)
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| '''Deleted''' with 9 votes to 5 at the time that voting closed. All links which weren't discussing UHUB or administrative in nature have been removed. --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 23:47, 17 June 2012 (BST)
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| ===Welcomenewbie===
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| {{tl|Welcomenewbie}} is an oversized piece of crap which needs to be taken out back and shot. I'd have nominated it for [[A/SD]] as off topic (because something that fucking overdone is even more effective than standard boilerplate at '''putting people off''' from the wiki), but figured it should have its day in the sun. So, have at!
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| :I'll be bringing in WikiMedia research data at some point when I'm less tired. Alternatively someone else can find the relevant [[User:Jorm|Jorm]] quotes. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:48, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' – As above. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:45, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''keep''' - Did you do this once before? May have been for something else. But this thing has thousands of transclusions and in my opinion just cannot be deleted outright. We should discuss how to facilitate the transition away from WN instead of simply deleting the one bit of it on a whim. That doesn't solve helping users. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 09:24, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #:Nope. That was [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive/2011 06#Template:Nosubst|Nosubst]].<br/> As for how to transition? Firstly, write people relevant messages if you want to welcome them! A personalised message from a real person is far, '''''far''''' more effective than a boilerplate message, especially one as hideous as this one.<br/> For the existing transclusions? Have [[User:The General|The General]]'s bot replace 'em with a link to something more useful. <small>(Let's not even get into how '''welcome templates are not supposed to be transcluded, FFS!''')</small> {{argh}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:48, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #::Yeah, see, even though it was nosubst last time, it's a similar issue I guess. As one of the only people who actually ''did'' write relevant messages to people to help them out (and was rightfully thanked for it on many occasions), I totally agree. But that's the initial step to the solution of removing WN. Removing the mess made is the middle step, deleting it is eventually the last. Much like what I imagine the fallout of the nosubst deletion vote was, in order to have a chance of getting this deleted I'd imagine you'd have to fulfil promises like using a bot to change the transclusions ''before'' putting the template up for deletion. that's what really convinces average anal-joes like me. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 12:41, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #:::Yar. This was the fastest way to get it started. (Laziness is one of my prime virtues, after all.) [[User_talk:The_General#Welcomenewbie|Call to arms]] sent. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 14:11, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #::::Just to say: This will happen; I've just been kinda busy recently. I will get to it soonish.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="plainlinks">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 00:44, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #:::::Switch them out for transclusions of [[Mediawiki:Welcomecreation]], not for the template code plox. Otherwise it's kinda douchy to the users. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 02:21, 3 June 2012 (BST)
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| #::::::Waah waah waaaaah. System messages dont function like templates. Instead of some variable, the plain text "$1" would get passed through. Not a bad looking page as a template, though. Much better than the current welcome template. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:09, 3 June 2012 (UTC)</sub>
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| #'''Keep''' - Although I agree that it ''can'' be a bit much for most newbies (I just glanced at it when Thad WN'd me), It can still be helpful at times (I just link to it in a personalized WN in case they want to look at it, for example). Plus what DDR said. --{{:User:Thanatologist/Sig}} 11:27, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - I think Rev is just jealous I used the WN thing in the past to propel myself to number one most linked to user. xD --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 11:34, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #:Nope.avi {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:48, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''shutup''' keep.--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>11:37, 22 May 2012 </small>
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| #'''Keep''' - As much as I hate it and want it gone, DDR has it right. Start with the other stuff, finish with this step. The faster it's killed off, the better. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:07, 22 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - I don't really see the problem of WN, but if you're going to remove it go through the correct channels first.-- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 18:56, 23 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' --[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 20:48, 23 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' - However, it is useless in its current state. I'd prefer to keep the template under that name, but to replace the content with a stock welcome message, in running text and with no tables, bullets or other annoying embellishments. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 14:06, 26 May 2012 (BST)
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| #:I think you're right on the money with this one. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:18, 27 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Speedy''' <s>Even the project creator admits this only exists for spamming users to the point of vandalism.</s> It's worthless and redundant since we already have a system message that does this without dropping a big steaming pile of worthless self indulgent spam on new users talk pages. "I appreciate you, now have this generic introduction of crap no one needs or wants to read through because to me you're only a +1." If you use this to welcome new users you are a horrible wikizen and should be escalated for vandalism just like MatthewFarenheit and Airborne88. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:32, 27 May 2012 (BST)
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| #:RE: [[User_Talk:Karek#LOL|Correction Full]] -> EXCERPT: Tl;dr?: You're right, he never admitted it. He just complained when one user was escalated for intentionally misusing it to the point of leaving the wiki in a mass of wiki drama. If a template's primary use is spamming then it's spam and there is [[UDWiki_talk:Open_Discussion/Welcome_templates#This_Procedure_Should_be_Discontinued.|a large multitude of proof]] that this is the only remaining purpose to Welcome Newbie as a project at least since [[Project Mentor]] and [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]] went live. Holding on to projectnewbie is holding on to the past for nostalgic, ill conceived, reasons. It shouldn't actually matter what MatthewFarenheit said having this at all is a bad idea lest someone start using it again. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:56, 28 May 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Delete''' - Doesn't the wiki get enough spam already? ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)</sub>
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| #'''Delete''' - As Revenant - [[User:Goribus|Goribus]] 18:38, 4 June 2012 (BST)
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| #'''Keep''' As Spiderzed. Replace with something more streamline and stop thinking it's a stand alone welcome message. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 00:00, 5 June 2012 (BST)
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| '''Kept''' with 9 votes to keep and 4 to delete.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 13:59, 7 June 2012 (BST)
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