UDWiki:Administration/Sysop Archives/Yonnua Koponen/2009-11-15 Promotion

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Yonnua Koponen

Yonnua Koponen (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Alright, so it's been a month since I was nominated by Thad, but as I said at the time, I thought it would be best to wait a month before running. So, the basic skin of the matter. I'm experienced in all manners of wiki activities. I know the admin pages well. I've also performed several large scale janitorial tasks. I helped Ross kick the Orphans, and I've been helping to keep the list down since then. I archive the suburb news once a month, an activity which I just performed on Thursday. Generally, I'm an active member of the community, and I'm hoping to take it to the next level, and help contributing as part of the sysop team. Well then, err, thanks for any vouches, and if you have any queries or issues, feel free to express them.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:54, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• Abstain Cyberbob  Talk  13:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  Against - Nah, too obnoxious. Cyberbob  Talk  17:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• Against - You've been getting better at everything but you aren't someone I trust when handling drama- and it's not something I have faith you'll stay away from. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - Everything you do is positively contributing to the wiki. You're not afraid to have an opinion, but you're not a dick, either. I'm sure you can handle the drama and be a good janitor. 'Nuff said.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 13:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Weak Vouch -Both as DDR and Giles. And hell, you kicked the some of the Orphans! --Janus ^talk 13:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  I got rid of a few. Maybe 100 odd. Ross did about 15 times as many as me. Mine was a very small part.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 13:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  Fixed. ^ --Janus ^talk 20:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - You're a keeper. --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}14:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Slightly weaker vouch than last time. Although the admin stuff is all there, some of your dealings with the more prickly wiki users have been less than perfect. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Ross.-- SA 15:29, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - I trust him to what is right. ---^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 15:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Weak Against - He is an active member of the UDwiki community, but as sysop, he would potentially have to deal with conflicts among other members. I have experience on a firsthand basis how thin skinned and immature he can be at times. --FLZombie 16:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  That would be when you accused me of vandalism, and I then showed you inconclusive proof that it wasn't me?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  Not all questions or complaints have to be taken personally, Yonnua. It was not a vandalism accusation - if I actually did think it was, I would have reported it as such. It was a simple request to not alter the map - which may have occurred accidentally. I included images to show proof that the map was accurate as I had fixed it - not knowing that I had attributed the changes to you erroneously. Yes, I apologized to you - twice in fact - in view of how upset you were evidenced by your childish name calling. I am an otherwise helpful editor, at a level of expertise that could only be described as beginner or novice. I am not a troublemaker, and was attempting only to help. The wiki is a place where editors of all levels of experience contribute, and perhaps I should avoid dealing with you in the foreseeable future. I think you are a great editor, and I wish you the best, but as Sysop, it is expected that you will have to deal with more that a fair share of "stupid pricks... posting slanderous(sic) accusations" and you can't get into a fight every single time. I will end my involvement in this discussion with an apology for having caused you so much trouble. --FLZombie 01:32, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  Just a small note; Don't call someone thin skinned and immature, when you don't want him to take it personally. That was a personal accusation alright. That was it. --Thadeous Oakley 18:23, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

• Weak KeepVouch - He's a nice guy who does tons of wiki-helpful things, but that's not what makes a sysop. I'm unsure of his drama-immunity; though I've seen him avoid plenty, I've also seen him get caught up in a few shitstorms. I'd probably be more enthusiastic if I knew why you wanted sysop powers, Yon. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 17:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  To help out with the general admin tasks and flow of the wiki. Give me something to do on weekends. Also to provide support when other admins are absent. Oh, I also want to enforce a harsh ansd ruthless dictatorship to crush any wiki-resistance. ;) --Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 17:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

So you basically want op buttons for teh lulz and to rule on dramatic cases? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

No.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 11:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

So help me out here, what do you intend to do with them? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 15:59, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

To help out with the general admin tasks and flow of the wiki. Give me something to do on weekends. Also to provide support when other admins are absent.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 16:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I guess housekeeping work does still need to be done around here, and since we have A/RE, it's not like giving people a shot has a big damage potential any more. I guess I'll say Vouch - Why not? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 16:37, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

OMGZ TWO VOUCHES ALERT LOLCATS --Janus ^talk 21:46, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

• against Active player, but says NO to every suggestion --Winman1 17:29, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  Umm, no I don't...?--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  He's just butthurt because his ideas suck. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - Just to counter winman1's incredibly lame rationale. (oh and he does good work too) --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 18:20, 15 November 2009 (BST)
• Against - you sound like you're black... insta-against--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 19:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  I love you(r) Rak.-- SA 21:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

  This could be the greatest piece of sysop bias i have ever seen. Congrats you incompetant retards, you have confirmed my long held suspicion that you're all out to get me! xoxo 10:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

  Oh and this browser is spell check free so don't bother paying me out for incorrect spelling if there was any. Also guy below needs to get a templated sig. xoxo 10:56, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - Seems like he'd be good. ^A_O^R_D^M_O^P_R^I _! ^T - 20:49 15 November 2009 (BST)
• Against - I actually would've been more up for supporting you last month. In recent history though, you've had a few lapses in judgement, such as the suggested policy that didn't go through, the dealings with Iscariot's vandal data, and one or two other matters that I don't recall off the top of my head. None of them are permanent black marks, but, as DDR mentioned, I'm afraid I wouldn't trust you with drama, which you've demonstrated an interest in getting involved in. I think you're a nice guy and do good work around the wiki (even thanked you for it earlier this week), but the drama issue is something I can't get around right now. —Aichon— 20:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against - I don't think you are ready for the responsibilities involved in being a sysop. Don't take it personally. I think you're pretty cool, though :P --Chekken 01:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against i'll change it to vouch if you promise to kick bob in the nuts once a month.----Sexualharrison 01:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - because i hated Winman's suggestions too -- 
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• weak against - You're a solid user, but I'm not quite convinced that you're sysop material. Not yet -- and one extra month isn't time enough... However, I don't think it matters what the community thinks anymore... c.f. red hawk one... le sigh --WanYao 02:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  +1 Mr. Yao. +1 -- SA 02:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

• Against -If I get in a mood where I feel like causing a ruckus, I would do it when you are on watch, because I don't think you are good enough to handle my shit. Hence, you vicariously shit yourself. You would understand if you gave yourself more than a months waiting time, instead of going away, making no improvements or endearing yourself to the community at large, besides getting in shitfights (and losing them) against some of the userbase and ultimately proving that if shit goes down, you can't handle it--CyberRead240 07:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against - Holy crap, been scrappin the bottom of the bloody barrel for awhile now on these promotion bids, but this is scrappin the shit off the floor underneath the barrel.--
  
  | T | BALLS! | 07:43 16 November 2009(BST)

  come back when you have had some real experience at creating mild shock.--CyberRead240 07:44, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  Not interested in shock, mild or otherwise. It's just the sad truth.--

  

  | T | BALLS! | 07:47 16 November 2009(BST)

  Fuck it, I changed my mind. Yonnua has shown he can be reasonable and has a sense of humor. Vouch --

  

  | T | BALLS! | 22:51 22 November 2009(BST)

• Against A frequent contributer who does a lot of useful work but I am not sure Yonnua could even contemplate being a neutral judge when dealing with anyone he disagree's with and that is an absolute must for sysophood. --Honestmistake 12:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  recent behaviour kinda proves my point. I would change to "Strongly Against" but I can't be bothered learning how to stike the previous and Yonnua does do a lot of good work and deserves some credit for that.... --Honestmistake 23:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

• Against Only a month between bids? Asheets 15:44, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  Because I didn't accept the last one, and wanted to run now.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 15:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

  Fair enough... Weak Vouch, but weak only just because I don't know him very well. Asheets 21:11, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - i trust him not to fuck with the tools that will be given to him, nor to abuse his ruling powers in his favor... has he little experience with admin stuff, sure. But there are several other sysops that can help him see the way(tm) --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 16:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against Not a good fit at the present. --M arcusF ilby ^T 18:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - As Giles, also disagree on the drama thing, he's better than most at avoiding it. --Explodey 20:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
• Weak Vouch - Good user, and I trust him enough for buttons. --Haliman - Talk 04:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against - Oddly enough, I find myself agreeing with Sexylegsread. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 04:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against - conflict can get nasty! --C Whitty 23:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
• Vouch - For what it's worth. --Thadeous Oakley 18:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
• Against - Though there's little point in me adding this, there are four vouches and that's all the 'crat team needs for promotion nowadays apparently. Promoting this user would be like promoting Conndraka again as he shares many of the same tendencies, there are numerous examples of him creating and causing further drama for his own gain or amusement, coupled with his lack of objectivity will make him a sysop the community will be burdened with for eight months until we can get rid. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  I actually have a 50% vouch rate. And if I get put in, I'll have a re-evaluation in 4. Not that you'll change your vote anyway.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:23, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  You have a 50% vouch rate so I should change my bolded keyword? I think not. You'll have a re-evaluation in four months? Really? Odd how this didn't go in your bid, considering you wrote it and all. No I won't be changing my vote (careful use of that superpower called reading reveals this isn't a vote, a potential sysop might realise that...), you are unsuitable to be a sysop for a single day let alone any amount of months. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  Fair enough. It's your opinion. The vote thing was a linguistic screw-up. And really, me re-evaluating in 4 months shouldn't be part of the equation, as you said, because if someone is an inherently bad sysop, then even a couple of months could be damaging. So it's more of a then thing than a now thing. I just wanted a record of it so that if I do make sysop, I'll remember to stick by it.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:40, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  Certainly isn't my opinion, it's fact. This is not a vote, people should not alter their input due to numbers of people going the other way and you are most definitely unfit based on your conduct. Thing is, the only other sysop with a re-evaluation clause, made it part of his bid so it's was actually enforceable. You haven't. It's not enforceable, it's words on a page, another act done for how it looks rather than for the right reasons. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:46, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

  Don't forget how I got people angry at me for it too!-- SA 00:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

• Vouch - I'd trust him with my kids! --Met Fan ^F 21:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

After talking to Boxy, Yonnua has helped out a lot on the wiki, but we aren't completely convinced about your motives and abilities with the buttons and the responsibility of being an UDWiki janitor. You seem to be prone to being involved in unfortunate and sometimes demeaning conflicts and I'd appreciate you practice your conduct in this area before running again. You've been making good progress of late, for sure, but the community is still very split about how you would deal with the buttons. I'd say a couple of months, be good and re-run again, but for now we are going to have to deny you. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:16, 29 November 2009 (UTC)