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Come to think of it, why don't we protect Template:Suggestion so vandals and n00bs can't screw up the entire Suggestions page? --Slicer 01:34, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Unless it becomes a perpetual vandal target, no. It's easily fixable if someone doesn't realise how to use it. Educate people on their mistakes, don't try to make the whole thing fool-proof ('cos that's a fool's game itself...) -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 10:03, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)

It just got vandalized again, I reverted it. You can just tell them to copy and paste the suggestion template code off of the main suggest page anyhow. FireballX301 06:54, 17 Jan 2006 (GMT)

And again. Reverted. It would be really nice if that page was protected. Just because the suggestions page depents on that one. --Brizth 12:45, 17 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Template:Suggestion Voting

Request that a moderator OTHER THAN MYSELF protect the Template:Suggestion Voting page so that people don't alter the Suggestions rules. --LibrarianBrent 13:19, 11 Jan 2006 (GMT)

I don't know if I'm helping or hurting the cause, but if another voice seconding this gives it more weight, consider it Seconded. I could, in theory, edit the rules myself to accomidate how I'd like to change the system, but I'd prefer they be locked in their Pre-Daxx-Edit form. -- Amazing 18:33, 11 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Since the Suggestions page rules should only be able to be changed by moderators or by a consensus vote, I think permanent protection would be fine. Normal users have no reason to edit the page, and any change that's voted in can be added by a moderator. --LibrarianBrent 01:10, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)
All right but I think you need revise that to say that it's required. There are too many stupid suggestions clotting out the more well thought ones. --ALIENwolve 01:12, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)
And I'd like to restate the fact that it... might... be best to revert back from Daxx's edits. I mean... talk about clutter, take everyone who Responded incorrectly under the old rules, and multiply that by X because it's "allowed" now. Clutter clutter clutter. :( Maybe at least make a notation that it's up to the Author or a Moderator to decide what's legit and what's Abuse/Useless. That way if EVERY voter is responding, it can at least be a judgement call.
Here's what you'll end up with when/if this current "Re: System" gets out of hand:
  1. Kill - Harpoons are not needed. -- Guy
    • Re: - I think they are. Edit: Yes they are. Edit: Okay, that's true, but don't call me a baby. Edit: NO YOU SHUT UP. - Author
      • Re: - They aren't. Edit: Harpoons are for whales, not zombies. Little idiot baby face moron. Edit: Oh shut up. -- Guy
Of course you have to factor in that folks have more time on their hands than I did for that little bit of whatsit. -- Amazing 05:01, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Alright ladies and gentlemen, You'll need to help me out here. What's the consensus on where the rules should be "frozen" at? I'm happy to lock the template, but you guys are going to have to give me explicit instructions for what I'm doing. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 05:28, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Well, for starters I would suggest that readers are urged to read the suggestions do's and do nots as well as the frequently suggested pages. Is it possible to unfreeze a page? --ALIENwolve 05:31, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Yes, the page can be unprotected by a moderator at any time. In addition, any moderator can edit a protected page. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 05:33, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Well, currently the instruction does not emphasize that you will most likely fail the suggestion voting if you haven't read them yet. --ALIENwolve 05:34, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)
I think we have a slight issue of Instruction Creep here. I'd highly recommend coming up with ways to reduce the amount of instructions on the Template if it's at all possible, but of course this comment doesn't really belong here, it probably belongs on Talk:Suggestions.
Reply to Odd: My key complaint was that Daxx editied in some words on the 8th that now reverse a long-standing "No non-author replies" rule, effectively making it "Non-author replies are totally allowed, dudes!" in a respect. He did this on the 8th, and I believe no one pointed it out becuase no one noticed he changed it until a couple days later (the 10th I think?) when he started quoting his own edits, pretending that it had been in the regulations all along. Consider this my vote to change it to pre-Daxx interference. -- Amazing 06:02, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Okay. I've protected at whatever it is now. At this point, you may now commence discussion on what changes are to be made to the rules. Simple, effective, and please keep it to the Talk:Suggestions page. -- Odd Starter talk | Mod 10:00, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)