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User Gilant has been editing our group page, though he is not a member of our group. He contends he is adding a NPoV, however his means of doing so is not consistent with the Group page editing guidelines which require such content precede the first heading. (Also, I note that I've never seen other group pages with so-called NPoV content at the top, I suspect this is an antiquated guideline.) I note from the guidelines that "Groups are quite allowed to place users on PK lists," which is all we're doing here. Request Gilant be warned/prevented from further editing our group page. --John Ember 16:27, 29 April 2006 (BST)

This is a case for Vandalism, not Protection. Take your case there. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 16:31, 29 April 2006 (BST)

Thanks, Cyberbob. I've never had to report anything before. Figured since he was engaging us in an edit war that it belonged here. Copied my request to the other page. --John Ember 16:38, 29 April 2006 (BST)

Main Page

The main page has been struck by a vandel in the last 2 days at the same time. I recomend locking the main page as there isn't a real need for a general wiki user to edit it. This prevents the pointless reverting of the main page when a vandel strikes. Also any changes to the main pages should be discussed and agreed upon by the community as everyone has to view it when the acess this wiki. - Jedaz 14:42, 8 April 2006 (BST)

I wholeheartedly support this. I myself came here to suggest the same thing. I also moved it to the top of the page for better visibility. --Grim s 11:26, 10 April 2006 (BST)

I don't really feel comfortable locking up the main page right now. Link changes and new sections need to be added fairly frequently. If this rash of irritating page move vandalism doesn't subside soon I'll reconsider. --Zaruthustra-Mod 17:48, 10 April 2006 (BST)

Also if its not the main page he'll just go elsewhere, and it'll be just as big a pain in the ass to fix, if not more. --Zaruthustra-Mod 17:56, 10 April 2006 (BST)

I agree. Changes to the page can be handled akin to Speedy Deletions with little to no problem. Moving to other pages is not an issue since the main page is arguably the most important on the Wiki. -- Amazing 18:31, 10 April 2006 (BST)

To completely lock it seems like a bad idea indeed because of the reasons Zaruthustra stated. Things are being changed on a regular base. And locking it would mean one or more persons have to be assigned to handle Edit Requests and what not. There are other ways around it to revert it back to it's original state, but it involves c/pasting from the history of the 'new page'. It's a drag but I don't think it's that big of a prob to lock it completely. Unless this vandalising becomes 'normal' only then should we consider to lock it I think. But what next? Group pages being locked and only editable by assigned group users?--Vykos 19:41, 10 April 2006 (BST)

Also, enough people have Main Page on their watchlist that any vandalism isn't going to last more than a minute or two at best. It's easy enough to revert. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 00:59, 11 April 2006 (BST)

It depends on what's the bigger waste of time - asking a Mod to update the page, or reverting 1,000,000 cases of vandalism over time. -- Amazing 03:52, 11 April 2006 (BST)

I think the answer to your implied question is that it is a bigger waste of time to ask a mod to change the page. Mods already have quite a bit to deal with already and making them spend time checking to see if the main page needs to be updated isn't going to make them spend any less time on other things like banning vandals. If someone is going to vandalize the wiki, they are going to do it on any of the pages that they can. The main page is a big target because it's what the most people see. But that also means that vandalasim there will get reverted faster, rather than hanging around for a few days until someone notices that some random page was blanked or whatever. --RedKnight 06:02, 13 April 2006 (BST)

I notice that there's an option of protecting the main page from moves. That would solve the problem without wasting mods time.--The General 14:06, 15 April 2006 (BST)

Main page has been protected from moves.--The General 14:15, 15 April 2006 (BST)