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| '''Not vandalism''' - new users often forget to change the signature part of those templates because it's a separate variable. Only a few days ago this guy tried to make a report on [[Image talk:Mall-safe-small.jpg|an image talk page]], so I'll have a talk to him on his talk page about signing (and keeping reports NPOV) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:25 15 January 2009 (BST)</small> | | '''Not vandalism''' - new users often forget to change the signature part of those templates because it's a separate variable. Only a few days ago this guy tried to make a report on [[Image talk:Mall-safe-small.jpg|an image talk page]], so I'll have a talk to him on his talk page about signing (and keeping reports NPOV) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:25 15 January 2009 (BST)</small> |
| :The man has a history of perfect signing and a history of announcing false targets for the Mall Tour! Do I not even get my sysop revision? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 04:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC) | | :The man has a history of perfect signing and a history of announcing false targets for the Mall Tour! Do I not even get my sysop revision? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 04:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC) |
| ::I can only find two cases of him signing a template like this (one where the sig is a separate variable) before, and a couple of other cases where he didn't update the sig part when updating [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ADangerReport%2FThe_Whippey_Building&diff=1362903&oldid=1361239 his own signed comments days later] (ie not updating the timestamp). As to him being annoying, that's a matter for arbies <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:46 15 January 2009 (BST)</small> | | ::I can only find two cases of him signing a template like this (one where the sig is a separate variable) before, an |
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| ===[[User:Iscariot]]===
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FMisconduct&diff=1361661&oldid=1361659 This edit]Where Iscariot is deleting edits made by others in bad faith simply to agitiate and agrivate the sysops and in the process deleting edits by other legitimate users i.e. Liberty. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :I think you mean ''agitate and aggravate'', also you need a dictionary methinks. I was removing the disputed content as per the precedent of arbitration. Although Liberty's edit may be good faith (if it is proven that the account is not an alt of a certain user) the precedent still stands that the disputed ''content'' is removed for the duration of an arbitration case. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 05:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Wherever you're getting the idea that Liberty is a alt account is completely unfounded and, well, wrong. A few checkuser checks show this to not be the case. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 11:14, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| [[#Before_Submitting_a_Report|#4]]. '''Not Vandalism''' although his comment here is borderline when considering his past warnings.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 05:46, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Very Well, but I don't see it as petty as the edit in question ties directly to the operation of a fairly well trodden administration page. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Not Vandalism''' - Agreement with Karek. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 11:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Enough with the hunting of the witch plz.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Enough with the shitting up of the admin pages plz. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 12:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Irony lol {{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Both of you. Last warning. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 12:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct&curid=2730&diff=1361655&oldid=1361651 This edit], restoring the contentious edit that is required to be reverted for the duration of the arbitration case as is the precedent. His reversion of Hagnat's edit is clearly provocative given his history of edits in relation to mine. He is well aware of the arbitration process and his precedent and has intentionally edited against this consensus driven statute. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 04:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :You mean [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FMisconduct&diff=1361651&oldid=1361599 the one] before it. [[User:Liberty|Liberty]] 04:54, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :[[#Before_Submitting_a_Report|#4]]. Just because you know trying to misconduct or Vandal report Hagnat for that would fall on it's face doesn't magically give arbitration powers beyond it's limits. Arbitration can not overrule real administration pages, more to the point you are submitting a case based on pettiness to try and get your way there and then trying to use that to justify this. Not happening, '''Not Vandalism'''. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 05:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Not Vandalism''' - As Karek. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 11:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| And more, hit RC.--{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Added the rest since they stopped. I think that's all. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 19:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Permas''' The lot of them. Im assuming we delete the spam pages as well? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Yes. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Yet don't record vandal data. Hmm. Well if there not coming back. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Colonel Krauser]] ===
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| For [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service/Umbrella/Zerg&oldid=1360391 this] vandalizing edit. More Umbrella vandalism? Can we just ban them all off of the wiki? --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 21:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :'''Not Vandalism'''. You bait a hook, a fish is going to bite. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::<small>[[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2009_01#Colonel_Krauser_case|Extraneous Discussion moved to talk page]] -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)</small>
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| '''Vandalism''' - they should all know not to edit that page by now <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 01:21 12 January 2009 (BST)</small>
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| === [[User:A Big F'ing Dog]] ===
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| I'm new to this reporting thing, so forgive me if i'm making to big a deal of nothing. But I do think that [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Developing_Suggestions&diff=1358200&oldid=1358138 this] constitutes vandalism at least needing an official warning or whatever. Deleting other users edits is considered vandalism, correct? - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 08:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :'''Not vandalism''' - he removed his own suggestion from the [[Developing Suggestions]] page <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:57 11 January 2009 (BST)</small>
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| ::'''Not Vandalism'''. As above. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Word. Thanks for the quick response. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 05:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Iscariot]]===
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Move_Requests&diff=prev&oldid=1359840 This] is shitting up admin pages. He won't accept that someone might know more than him even though he knows that that person had access to privileged information regarding the exact thing he's arguing about, he's trying to game the system in an attempt to back up his belief of a bias by intentionally misrepresenting the facts and then arguing ad nauseum when someone knows better. He was warned about this behavior on the same page. I'm requesting another sysop rule on this issue.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 04:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| : Involved -> --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 04:55, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Not really. You can actually back up my point that no RRF member that knows anything would believe what he is saying.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 05:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Continuing despite a soft warning sounds vandalish to me? [[User:Liberty|Liberty]] 12:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| <small>Discussion continued on [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|talk page]]</small> <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:41 11 January 2009 (BST)</small>
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| :'''Vandalism'''. Tending sysop said it wasn't going to be moved by him. No need to continue that discussion and doing so is clearly bad faith trolling. Why not go cry to another sysop to get your way like you did with the templates? Or are you running out of sysops that will give in to you? --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Vandalism''' - As Nubis. You've already been warned for shitting up admin pages, Iscariot. Please take the hint with this second one. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| T's going pretty fast now. How many warnings until permaban vote?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 18:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :You do realize that you are doing the same thing iscariot is being warned for ? Do not shit on admin pages. There is no need to kick a dead horse in the main page. If you want to, do it in the talk page. This is your last warning, thadeous. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 21:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Jackson]]===
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| For [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service/Umbrella&oldid=1358419 this] edit to MY group's sub page. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 22:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :That's an open page, both our groups are on that page if I am not mistaken? I didn't know that the UBCS had exclusive control over it.-Jackson.
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| ::We have control on it seeing as it is in our namespace.--{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 22:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::This is bullshit! I demand that my name be removed! I do know better but if its just the UBCS page then they should remove our Umbrella name from it! If they want to lie about OUR war then they can, but I thought this page was open to both groups!-Jackson
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| ::::Gimme the damn info, and I'll put it in, your highness.--{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 22:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Vandalism''' - You should know better and we've been over this before. The page belongs to UBCS and they can put whatever they want on it. Take it to arbitration if you don't like it. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALeroy_Jankens&diff=1358201&oldid=1358093 Impersonation]. Similar to the J3D thing from [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_12#User:J3D_3|last month.]] {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 21:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :'''Vandalism''' - although he's not using the same name, he is going back and changing his sigs on messages that had already been replied to, to make the posts more insulting. Impersonation in that he is changing posts that have already been replied to in a bad faith manner <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 22:44 9 January 2009 (BST)</small>
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service%2FUmbrella&diff=1358273&oldid=1357824 Making] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service/Umbrella&diff=next&oldid=1358273 several]
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service/Umbrella&diff=next&oldid=1358290 edits] to a group page that is not theirs (particularly the last one). Another Umbrella vs UBCS thing. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :*Sigh*. Not Vandalism, please?. He is a complete wiki newbie, and therefore unaware of any rules or regulations concerning group and community pages. I can assure that this is not a bad faith edit, he probably thought this as the real wikipedia, where anyone can edit anything. I'm sure he did not break the rules on purpose. If he were a vandal, the page would be either blanked or filled with nonsense. Not bad faith, so forgiveness?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 21:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :: MisterGame might not be a sysop (hint, hint, dont "''rule''" again), but i agree with him. Its just a wiki-newbie mistake. '''Not vandalism''' --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 21:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Oops, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service%2FUmbrella&diff=1358432&oldid=1358419 he did it again]! Told him to stop on his talk page. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 22:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::And I've expanded it a little. It looks like a confused newbie (as Thadeous said, it doesn't seem to be in bad faith.) Might want to un-bold that "Not Vandalism" too, Thadeous. Makes it look like a ruling. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 22:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Sorry Sorry, I had no intention to rule on anything. I will fix it, again sorry. -1 for bad impression.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 22:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Iscariot]]===
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&curid=2721&diff=1356366&oldid=1356364&rcid=1385636 Shitting up admin pages],
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Deletions&curid=2721&diff=1356369&oldid=1356368&rcid=1385639 with free and unneeded attacks to members of the admin staff], in disguise of a ''good faith'' action for the community, even [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Iscariot&curid=73166&diff=1356365&oldid=1354827 after being asked not to revert these comments]. This behaviour can be seen in other administration pages, as most members of the community are aware of (no links needed, then). Unlike other users who work together with the admin staff to help mantain the wiki, iscariot constantly work against the admin staff. Asking for punishment on the grounds of his constant attitude towards the admin staff, not only because of these edits. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 13:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :We won't even go into the wikigate-ness of wanting a user punished ''"on the grounds of his constant attitude towards the admin staff"'', was the clause that everyone has to be soopa-nice and give cookies and fluffy puppies to sysops a part of the civility policy? Because I don't remember reading that one.
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| :Let's determine these edits correctly then, since Hagnat would mislead all of us for his own gain given the chance.
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| :One bright sunny day, with the birds gaily singing in the trees, Iscariot was walking through the formerly lush and fertile gardens that were the administration pages (recent caretakers have unfortunately be deficient, we need a new team of gardeners) when he noticed a travesty. Speedy deletions that had received a keep had not been moved over to the main deletions queue. ''"Surely not!"'', thought Iscariot, but it was true. Iscariot consulted his Ladybird Book of UD Wiki Procedure and noticed the rules at the top of the page: ''"A Speedy Deletion may be circumvented by a single vote of Keep under the request. If this occurs, '''the system operator shall move the Speedy Deletion request to the Deletion Request Queue''', where the normal rules for Deletion of the page shall apply."'' Iscariot lamented that this community approved process had not been followed, he checked the history to discover the culprit of this heinous act, seeing the Golden Boy of the Sysop Team, he knew that the misconduct case would be brushed aside even though a clear breach of procedure had occurred. So valiantly, with good faith brimming from his pores, he scooped up the errant cases and deposited them in the deletions queue.
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| :Iscariot looked around the queue and saw that it had become customary for users other than sysops to leave a short message explaining to the community why these case had been moved.Trusting fully in the will of the community, he left a message on each case, explaining the situation. Along comes the arch-villain of the piece, Hagnat, and removes these comments for the dastardly purpose of leaving the community befuddled by the reasons that these cases have spontaneously appeared. Not to worry reader, for our knight of shining truth and justice, Iscariot, reappeared and explained to the arch-villain why these were needed. Good deeds done for the day he returned to his castle, for some troll had deposited a turd on his immaculate lawn.
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| :But, lo! The Iscariot-Signal appeared in the sky again. This time the arch-villain had tried to besmirch his name by removing his signatures. This would leave no indication that the fair knight had performed these brave and selfless acts. Again the noble crusader undid the beast's work, content that all was right in Wiki-lot again.
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| :Thwarted as he was, the arch-villain pulled out his final dishonourable weapon, a kangaroo court (well not really, there are no kangaroos in Wiki-lot, perhaps a wallaby court or a koala court?), and here fair reader doest our story pause, a cliffhanger. The deeds of the dashing knight at the will of denizens of the underworld. Is this the end for our valiant hero? Tune in next time.
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| :Can anyone guess how the ''objectiveness'' and ''impartiality'' is going to work in this case? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 13:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::TL;DR; - and quoting Nubis... ''thank you for your input'' --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 13:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Thank you for your input. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 13:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::: Oh! A new active flame war! Cool, I'll watch *grabs popcorn*. Seriously though, what's up with Iscariot? I kinda get the feeling he isn't very popular.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 15:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Hagnat [[User:Nubis/001|You beat me to the proverbial punch.]]''' I was going to post this after much consideration. I'm not sure which case we should discuss, but I seriously think this is a problem that needs to be solved. Sysops only are free to comment on the page I created under my User space. Other comments will be considered vandalism. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 16:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :If you are adding to the current case against me I demand that all of that is brought and posted here so it can be entered into the appropriate archive. Placing a vandalism case in a userspace, particularly when the user in question has deletion rights over the page without any oversight is a recipe for historical revisionism and alteration of the case after the ruling. You want that entered? Bring it here into the appropriate domain so the community can see it as I demonstrate the massive holes in your 'case'. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 16:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::If you have problems with a particular page you need to take that to Arbitration. But fair warning I will only accept a sysop as an arbitrator. TIA.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::I have no problems with the page at all, in fact I'm making a copy for normal users to comment on, however in order for any case to be considered, it should be placed here in the correct system. This is so that in the future users will be able to look back on the case and see everything pertinent. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 13:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Are you one of those people who believe that decent popularity and getting along with an average amount of people isn't needed to work properly?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 17:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Even though i appreciated your input, thadeous, i'd like you to follow the guidelines of this page and refrain from commenting on the case unless you are a sysop or the user being reported. This case will be grounds for lots of drama, there is no need for outside involviment here. You can still use this page's talk page, though --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 17:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::While that guideline you mention is probably been broken a million times in vandal history, I will try to behave myself. I see this is a sensitive case, so I will respect your nicely said words ;). *stays on the sidelines*.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 18:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| He wants to get banned so he can accuse the entire sysop team of lolmiscontrabitration. Ignore him.--{{User:Thari/sig}} 17:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :if thats the case, i say ''give him what he wants''... but unfortunelly i am the reporting user and can't give it to him :( --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 17:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah he's wrong, doesn't mean he should be punished for having no understanding of why rules exist anywhere or having enough foresight to see why they weren't moved. Especially since he doesn't have the ability to see [[wikipedia:WP:UCS|how idiotic he's being.]]--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 00:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::[[wikipedia:WP:UCS|Karek's link fixed.]] {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 01:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::And fixed, coulda sworn I had it right.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 01:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Wikipedia is funny in that for almost every guideline and essay, there exists an [[wikipedia:WP:NOCOMMON|equal and opposite]] guideline or essay. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>|[[User talk:Midianian|T]]|[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]|[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]|</sup></small> 10:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::Big difference there. Karek's link is a policy in progress and your link is just an opinion essay. It is in the same category as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_be_anal this,] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Drop_the_stick_and_back_slowly_away_from_the_horse_carcass this,] and oh [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Essays_are_not_policy this].--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::::As far as I can tell, the difference is rather small. It's a policy ''proposal'', not an actual accepted policy. You do realize that it (too) was an essay not long ago? --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>|[[User talk:Midianian|T]]|[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]|[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]|</sup></small> 17:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::You seem to be missing the point. Btw, that was me ruling, or more specifically saying that it's not worth ruling on and should be dropped while not actually trying to validate bad behavior. If it needs saying; tentative <s>'''Not Vandalism'''</s> in his own demented way he was acting in good faith, ignorance isn't vandalism until it causes major problems.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Subsequent actions on his part have made it clear that he's purposely contorting the rules in bad faith, that requires me to change the ruling here to '''Vandalism'''.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 06:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::: ''ignorance isn't vandalism until it causes major problems.'' - all the drama he unnecessarily creates IS a major problem. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 10:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::::You also seem to be missing the point. Could you try reading it again, this time ''without'' assuming that I'm opposed to your very existence? --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>|[[User talk:Midianian|T]]|[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]|[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]|</sup></small> 17:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::::::No hostility was intended in my comment. That whole thing was just about me saying that I need someone to show intent to game the system before ruling vandalism for him addressing what he seems to think are rules violations.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 12:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::::I hate to see what your definition of "major problems" is. But thank you for weighing in on the case.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 18:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Whst the fuck is wrong with you guys? Has Iscariot scared you all so shitless that you can't fucking decide on a VB case? Either rule on this fucking case or move Nubis' case over and start that, but don't just let this asshole get away with his fucking temper tantrums. You assholes, grow some balls and get rid of this shithead. --[[Image:Globetrotters_Icon.png|15px]] '''[[User:DCC/Suggestions|#99]]''' <sup>''[[User:DCC|DCC]] ''</sup> 06:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| I have no idea how I missed this case. =/ Anyway, I'm going to say my piece. Once upon a time (wasn't that long ago either) I personally found Iscariot to be a very useful contributor this community. Sure he went a little over the top here and there, but he made some very good points and what he had to say did contribute to what was going on. However, over the past few months this has changed dramatically. Instead of contributing to the community, Iscariot is doing nothing more than picking fights with the admin team, bulling other users and attempting to start flame wars over the simplest things. When he gets asked to stop, he cries foul and hides behind policy and precedent. He bans sysops from contacting him in a non-official way threatening a misconduct case if that happens (which I might add any have yet to materialise), every edit makes to an admin page attacks sysops for being stupid, lazy and nothing more than mindless idiots hiding behind their ''trusted user'' status. He brings up frivolous VB and Misconduct cases over the slightest thing, wasting both our time and the time of everyone else on the wiki having to read through them and then have them cluttering up the page.
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| As has been pointed out several times, we have no policy against being a dick. But we have a policy (several, actually) against vandalism. Vandalism is seen as a bad faith edit. Going by this case alone we have several bad faith attempts to stir up drama on the deletions page. This is (unless I'm very much mistaken) an Administration page. Checking the archives, we have several precedents for people receiving vandal escalations for shitting up admin pages with irrelevant and trollish comments. As a result, I'm going to take this precedent into account and, basing my decision entirely on this case, I'm going to rule '''Vandalism'''. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 12:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Vandalism''' Don't shit up pages and make edits that you know are in bad faith. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :PS it says a deletion w/ a keep vote needs to be moved, but it doesn't say that we only have 5 seconds to comply, nor does it say that it can't remain "listed" on Speedy (perhaps to serve as an example or to tell users where the case has been moved to). It just says that we can't speedy delete the page after it gets a keep vote. If we wanted to keep archives of every case that was put on the speedy page (regardless of action taken on it or not) then we can.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Also, the pages were obviously safe from deletion by being moved to the served section. The only reason to move them over would be to vote them Delete (which would make moving them from SD pointless) or Keep (which we clearly were going to do anyway.) --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 18:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Now the verdict has been taken, but aren't you forgetting warning him on his talk page for the above as is custom?--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 21:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Personally, I am waiting to see how he handles the expectation of a A/M case. [[User:Liberty|Liberty]] 08:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:8oxy]]===
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| {{vndl|8oxy}}
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| {{verdict|Sockpuppet|Permaban}}
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| Possible attempt to impersonate [[User:Boxy|Boxy]]. IP check reveals it originates from the same location as that of [[User:HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS|this guy]]. Same single contribution of posting on user page to (possibly) get the account noticed. I won't ban it (yet) just in case I'm wrong, unless another sysop wants to back me up on this one. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 11:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Lulz. *in await of the Ce3se and A unhelpful little gnome.* --[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 14:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I noticed this one, but my checkuser came back blank. how did you make the link? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Ran the IPs through an IP checker. Both came back to the same place in Australia. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 15:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| I was checking this user ip earlier this morning, it points to a proxy site in australia... i say '''perma''' as an obvious attempt to impersonate boxy --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 15:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :I concur. Permabanned. Stop this, you are not funny.--{{User:Thari/sig}} 16:02, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Might as well ban the IP, surely? Also, the 2 Special crowd almost certainly had something to do with this as well but good luck getting proof. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 16:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :You should be a detective! If it's a proxy then i'm sure they will ban the IP. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::They should ban it anyway to prevent any more of these occurrences, proxy or no. I don't quite know why IP bans aren't standard for all permabans, to be honest. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 03:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Because some people who play UD may not have access to a computer at home, so they use it at the library, or at school. Also, some users that live together and run through the same IP address would have problems with that also. I think IP bans should happen if it's a recurring problem with the one IP, but with the whole community computers things in schools, universities and libraries etc it would be impossible.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 03:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::: When banning a user, the mediawiki framework automatically bans any attempt to create an account with the same IP of the banned user. This IP ban only last for a few days, though, to avoid punishing shared computer users who had nothing to do with the case. Now, if you guys want to carry on this discussion, i suggest you to move it to the talk page, as this doesnt have any relevance - exclusive relevance - to this case --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 11:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::It should also be noted that it wasn't actually an identical ip, merely one from the same area so an ip ban would have no effect.--{{User:The General/sig}} 21:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Rayols]]===
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| {{vndl|Rayols}}
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| {{verdict|Vandalism|Permaban}}
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Krazy_Monkey&curid=15211&diff=1354802&oldid=1354534 Circumventing a perma] that was issued earlier by making this edit. Sure his 'friend' made the edits, that's why the first edit under that account to Rev's pages months ago was a vandalism edit. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 02:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Hey, that's a completely understandable thing right there. Friends using each others PC's. Just like Scinfaxi and Jjames. *Snickers*--[[User:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> dǝǝɥs </span>]] <small><span style="color: Crimson">oʇ </span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ɯɐds:</span>]] [http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Joining <span style="color: MidnightBlue">sʎɐʍ1ɐ!</span>]</small> 02:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| '''Permaban''' This is is the same IP as the banned vandal below. Pro-tip: if you want to plead your buddies case don't do it from his computer.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 02:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Kerkel]]===
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| {{vndl|Kerkel}}
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| {{verdict|Vandalism|Extended Ban}}
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Philosophe_Knights/Kill_List&curid=27123&diff=1354537&oldid=1354496&rcid=1383779 More editation of PK pages]. Any more vandalism from him and it's a ban. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Philosophe_Knights/Kill_List&curid=27123&diff=1354543&oldid=1354538 Persistent fucking vandal]. Can we have that perma now? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 22:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Already done. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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| [[Image:Cheesescreen.jpg|thumb|right|A very polite request to get an account unbanned]]
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| In a semi-related note: [[:Image:Cheesescreen.jpg|Lol.]] -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 23:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :ROFLMAOPMP... ok, ok... i never saw a user going to this extent to get his account unbanned... i have to give credit to this guy... i ask for his perma to be lifted, and three warnings to be added to his account. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 00:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Meh. I'm not too bothered either way. It's not like we can't ban him again if he goes on a vandal spree. I'd say we've given him 2 warnings and count this as a (slightly extended) 24 hour ban since it would be his 3rd escalation. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 12:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::: thank you. I have unbanned the account. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User talk:Hagnat|talk]] [[Special:Listusers/sysop|mod]]</sup> 12:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Kerkel]]===
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| {{vndl|Kerkel}}
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| {{verdict|Vandalism|Warning}}
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Philosophe_Knights/Kill_List&diff=prev&oldid=1354131 Editing the group page he is not a member of]. Two contributions, two acts of vandalism. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 21:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :The other one is over a month old so I'll just count this one. '''Vandalism''' and '''warned'''. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Hrrm, didn't even notice that until Boxy reverted it. Guess he's sore about dying, what a shame he's just put himself on my radar again... <tt>>:D</tt> Thanks for that. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 01:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Janus Abernathy|Janus Abernathy]]===
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| {{vndl|Janus Abernathy}}
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| {{verdict|Not Vandalism|None Required}}
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| For [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service&diff=1353010&oldid=1353009 this edit], as mentioned below. Umbrella members are real class acts, eh? How many vandal reports in the last week from their members, hmmmmm? --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 14:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :He was attempting to revert the vandalism from the case below but didn't do it right. '''Not Vandalism'''. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Again, I fail at reverting vandalism ;) --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 14:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Oh. Sorry...... **goes and stands in the corner** --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 14:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Yeah, my summary was referring to that she didn't know how to use the undo and revert tools properly. So, yeah, I posted on her [[User_talk:Janus_Abernathy#When_reverting_vandalism|talk page]]. If anyone's wondering. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 15:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| <small>[[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2009_01#Janus_Abernathy_Case|Extraneous Discussion to talk]] -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)</small>
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| ===[[User:Hallman111|Hallman111]]===
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| {{vndl|Hallman111}}
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| {{verdict|Vandalism|Permaban}}
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service%2FAlpha&diff=1353004&oldid=1352999 Vandalised] the [[Umbrella Biohazard Containment Service/Alpha|UBCS Alpha]] page. Note that he is not [[User:Haliman111|Haliman111]] (the UBCS leader.) {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:16, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Got him. '''Permaban'''. IP address is the same as the one used by the Umbrellaemployee dude from earlier in the week. I've done an IP block to stop them using that one. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::That was quick. There was another example [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Umbrella_Biohazard_Containment_Service&diff=1353010&oldid=1353009 here.] on the main UBCS page. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Hmm, this needs some clarifying. Janus wasn't the vandal, Hallman was. I just compared between my edit and Janus's edit as she didn't revert properly, and the diff captured most of the vandalism. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 15:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| <small>[[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2009_01#Hallman_Case|Extraneous Discussion to talk]] -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)</small>
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| ===[[User:Nemesis645|Nemesis 645]]===
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| {{vndl|Nemesis645}}
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| {{verdict|Vandalism|Warning}}
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| [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Church_of_the_Resurrection%2FComplaints_Page&diff=1351413&oldid=1065979 Impersonated] the MOB at the CoTR's talk page, and [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AMilitant_Order_of_Barhah&diff=1352923&oldid=1352860 did the same] to the CoTR on the MOB's talk page, in an attempt to get the groups to declare war on each other, it seems. There is nothing about him being member of ether group on his page (he seems rather survivor.) {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 11:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :'''Vandalism''' - Impersonation of two different groups is just stupid. Warned. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===[[User:Sexylegsread]]===
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| {{vndl|Sexylegsread}}
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| {{verdict|Vandalism|48 hour ban}}
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| Allowing vandalism to take place without doing anything to try and prevent it. Indeed, he actively supported it. I can't be arsed linking to the various pieces of evidence, pretty much everyone knows what went down anyway. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 04:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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| <small>[[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2009_01#Sexylegsread_Case|Discussion moved to the talk page]] -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)</small>
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| Please include the relevant links next time, bob.
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| *[[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_12#User:HAHA_DISREGARD_THAT_I_SUCK_COCKS|I can assure you it wasn't anyone I know]] --Sexylegsread 13:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC).
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| *[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct&diff=1350146&oldid=1350140 On msn with them, I said, yes, it would be lulz to do this. And so far it has lived up to my expectations.]--Sexylegsread 11:45 30 December 2008 (UTC).
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| I think it's clear that if we even accept his story that it was some faceless neighbor, and not him doing it, he was complicit in the vandalism. He was asked, should I do this, and he said yes, it will be lulz. He then proceeded to lulz it up on the vandal talk page, A/VB and A/M, lying about it all the way, depending on what could be proven at the time <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 05:51 1 January 2009 (BST)</small>
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| Meatpuppet vandalism is still '''vandalism'''.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Right, I'm now sober and have had a chance to think. '''Vandalism''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 10:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Well, that looks like a '''48hr ban''', then. Done <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:55 1 January 2009 (BST)</small>
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| This is ridiculous. Vandalism is a bad-faith edit. Talking to someone in RL is not an "edit" and, thus, cannot be vandalism. '''Not Vandalism'''.--{{User:The General/sig}} 21:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Here are the links to bad faith edits to increase the disruption caused by this vandal impersonation that he coordinated with his "friend".
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| ::#[[User_talk:HAHA_DISREGARD_THAT_I_SUCK_COCKS|Posts on the sock account talk page to make sure that bob sees it on RC.]]
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| ::#[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_12&diff=prev&oldid=1347903 Taunting bob once he sees it and reports it on A/VB.]
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| ::#[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_12&diff=prev&oldid=1348028 He fails to see how it's obvious, despite knowing the intent of the vandal, by his own admission later.]
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| ::#[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_12&diff=prev&oldid=1348070 Assures us it is no one he knows.]
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| ::It was a coordinated act of vandalism, so the next escalation is a 2 day ban. I can't help it if he's a persistent vandal who's used up all his warnings <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:16 2 January 2009 (BST)</small>
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| :::Ok, here is the response to the "bad faith edits". 1. That isn't an act of vandalism. 2. That isn't an act of Vandalism. 3. That isnt an act of vandalism, and 4. Surprise Surprise, isn't an act of vandalism. Nice to see I was vandal banned for something you couldn't prove, isn't it? That agenda flare up again? Good timing too, getting me out of the way so that you could demote Jed under everyones noses. You are pure dirt, boxy.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 04:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::He may be dirt, but you're full of shit. --[[User:Cyberbob240|HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS]] 07:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Driving your buddies to make throw away accounts to make bad faith edits ''is'' as much vandalism as doing it yourself via proxy filters.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Not to mention it is an impersonation account of someone this user personally harasses. You can't believe that some random person made that account on their own.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 10:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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