Category talk:Historical Groups

Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups. Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are Yea and Nay. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)

Nominations for Historical Status

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New Nominations

The 4-H

One of the bigger (at one time, at least) and more resilient localized survivor groups in Malton, The 4-H, officially closed their doors on October 6th, 2010. While not exactly a game changer, the Headhunters of Huntley Heights participated in a large number of historic events in Malton, including the defense of Stickling Mall during Shop-a-Thon 2006, the Battle of Blackmore, and the operations of Alliance 45. The group lasted two months shy of five years, secured and maintained two previously uninhabitable suburbs (Huntley Heights and Raines Hills), opened/established the long-utilized Veryard Crescent Revive Point, and employed 105+ members over the course of our time in Malton.. We also established the original public barricade plan, as well as all of the original UDwiki pages for Huntley Heights as part of our efforts to keep the survivors of the Heights informed, safe, and sound.

Unfortunately, over the years the group was decimated by a combination of griefers and a lack of new members, but I hope that those we played with (or against) can fondly remember the audacious 4H that fought the Big Bash in Shearbank (even if we did lose, hah), rather than the skeleton crew left at Vicari when we disbanded.

Farewell UD, and Happy Hunting! --Aiden H ^4H 03:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Voting Rules

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Yes

1. Yes - Submitter vote. --Aiden H ^4H 03:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
2. Yes - The 4-H were around for a long time, and had a great impact on Huntley and surrounding suburbs Captain Winters 04:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
3. Yes - Group played an important role for years! Dweeezul 05:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Big Bash 3

BB3. Many of you were fortunate enough to have been a part of it or taken apart by it. For those of you who were, there's no need to explain any of this stuff to you since you were there. You saw it. You felt it. For those that missed it, however, it was something BIG, and it had a planned beginning and end.

Game Impact: We began in the wake of Escape on June 3rd of last year. BB3 started out in the southwest corner of Malton, did a giant looparound the city, had to pause periodically to let folks catch up since we were moving too fast, and finished things up 4 months and a week later with dozens upon dozens of our tag-wearing group members descending on the historic Whetcombe Park, in tribute to those that went On Strike. During that time, we ruined partied in 48 suburbs, though we also ate the brains of dozens of other suburbs that were fortunate enough to be adjacent to those 48. We moved through suburbs so quickly that most survivors never even knew we were coming until their suburb was ruined, and though no official count was kept, it's probably safe to say that thousands, if not tens of thousands, of brains were eaten by our members in the four months we were active. Backing that up, the survivor to zombie ratio shifted from about 70:30 when we started, to more like 40:60 when we ended.

Community Impact: I believe that at our peak we were the largest organized group in the game, which is made all the more impressive by the fact that we had numerous other groups that joined us while keeping their own tags, plus a massive feral cloud that could be felt from suburbs away. A cloud so renowned, in fact, that more than once since we disbanded, many of us have heard the cry of an ignorant survivor as they declared, "Its [sic] Big Bash 3!" when a random zombie breached a building. It's happened so often, in fact, that the Philosophe Knights even satirized the occurrence during a play they staged. The fact that the Malton Herald & Sun featured BB3, coupled with the fact that we disbanded suddenly (but intentionally) while we were still the second largest organized group in the game probably led to the confusion.

Strategic Impact: We advocated the use of attack windows in addition to strike teams, which ensured that even without coordination and communication, we still struck as a horde. Tactics such as these are what led to a healthy Fort Creedy and Giddings Mall falling within hours of each other after we moved into the suburb. Having a horde didn't hurt either, of course.

Wiki Impact: Did I mention that we have a kick-ass group page? And that we had received over 3000 page views of a countdown we posted a week in advance of when we officially started? We were also the most-linked group page for most of our run.

Other Impact: BRA!NZ.

—Aichon⁴— 22:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

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Yes

1. Yes - The party may have ended, but we still have the memories, and there's no denying that we made a big impact while we were around. I've been waiting for the four-month inactive timer to finish up so I could finally post this, and today is the day. —Aichon⁴— 22:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
2. Yes - If you want to talk about things with an impact in 2010, Big Bash should be high up on your list if you don't want to be laughed at. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
3. Yes - Wow has it been four months already. I was there and it was indeed groundbreaking. Just look at the suburb map history for June, July, August, and particularly September of 2010 and you'll see just what kind of impact was made. The group made a lasting impact on the game which lasted many, many weeks after (and to an extent before) the events. It was definitely historic. ~ 22:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
4. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 23:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
5. Yes - I had fun! -- Bisfan 01:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
6. Yes - I don't think a horde has ever moved around the map so fast. Good times and great memories.-- Skoll ^Die 01:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
7. Yes - Had a clear impact on game history that in many ways, defined and dictated 2010 for UD. -MHSstaff 04:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
8. Just because it didn't come up against the same survivor opposition as BB2 (and therefore won't be remembered as much for great battles, impact etc.) doesn't mean it isn't worthy of wearing the historical tag. Just because we were too weak to make any notable stands against BB3 doesn't make BB3 worse in itself. -- ϑ^anceϑ^anceℜ^evolution 05:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
9. I heard of them, and I was nearly inactive. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
10. The standout happening of the last two years. BB3 revitalised a dying zombie metagame and defined the standard of play for a huge duration of time. 13:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
11. --^A_O^R_D^M_O^P_R^I _! ^T 21:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
12. Yes, BB3 was awesome, and the fact that it came at the end of Escape was the perfect cherry on top. --Shatari 22:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
13. Sure - Why not?--Amber Waves of Pain 10:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
14. Hell yes --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 06:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
15. YES BRA!NZ!!!!!--Akbar 00:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
16. Yes The speed in which this mega-horde ripped through suburbs was astonishing. Revitalised the zombie game it seems, and Malton hasn't been half as safe during or since. --BOSCH 02:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
17. Yes -

    This Big Bash triumphed.

    I'm making a note here, HUGE SUCCESS.

    It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.

    It's the third Big Bash:

    We killed who we could because we must;

    For the good of all of us-

    At least the ones who are dead.

    -

    But there's no sense crying over every mistake,

    You just keep on killing 'till you run out of hate.

    And the slaughter gets done

    And you cut the flow of guns

    To the people who are still alive.

    -

    I am still hungry.

    I'm being so sincere right now.

    Even though we ate your heart and killed you.

    And tore you to pieces.

    And threw every piece into our stomachs.

    As you died it hurt because

    We were so happy for you.

    -

    But those points of action brought a beautiful time

    To a great faction, who's strength only climbed

    So I'm GLaD the bash returned, think of all the meals we've turned

    Into the people who are not alive.

    -

    Be lucid and vote Yes

    You know it deserves to be recalled

    Unless you find something else that moved you

    Maybe Escape II

    That was a joke, ha ha, FAT CHANCE

    Anyway your brain is great

    It's so delicious and moist.

    -

    Look at me still talking when there's murder to do

    When I look out there it makes me GLaD we killed you

    So those breathers better run, 'cause we're loose to have some fun

    On the people who are still alive.

    -

    And believe me we were not alive.

    We murdered people and were not alive.

    We felt fantastic and were not alive.

    While you were dying we were not alive.

    And when you died we remained not alive.

    Not alive.

    NOT ALIVE --VVV ^RPMBG 07:49, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

18. Yarp --Karloth Vois ^¯\(°_o)/¯ 22:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
19. Yus - As TripleU --DT^PK 00:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
20. Yes - sound pretty important to me. And I know what sounds important (I don't really) Louis Vernon 00:20, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

No

1. No -Big Bash 3 was to Big Bash as Godfather 3 was to the Godfather.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 22:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
2. No I thought I'd be the only one. The Impact was much less than either of its predecessors and was nothing new. (I can see why people would vote yes, but I've always fallen back on the question "Did they change the game?" when I vote. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:00, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

   I can see where you're coming from, but by your standard I don't think that we'll ever see any new groups enter the ranks of Historical Group, which isn't fair to those that are worthy of note. And if you're looking for game changing or new, it shifted the population balance drastically and introduced a new method of coordinating a feral horde that I have not heard of being used prior to it at this scale. As Spiderzed said, any mention of 2010 should include it. —Aichon— 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

   Remind me why you voted for Blackmore XVIII as an historic event again. -MHSstaff 04:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

3. No - BB3 was impressive and it did demonstrate that the survivor player base is evaporating (confirmed by the recent GSGM). Furthermore, it is now clear that the remaining metagamers are basically zombies. So the fallout from the bash has lead to a significant revelation. However when considering a big bash or a big prick or a mall tour or escape etc, I think it's enough to include the first of each of these events as historically significant, rather than each subsequent one.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 04:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

   I have to disagree with this statement. The survivor player base is not evaporating. The zombie player base is. When I checked the stats yesterday to update Organization XIII's page, the population favors the survivors, and it still favors survivors right now. As of right now, the current ratio stands at 39% zombies, 61% survivors. I'd like to know: where have all the zombie metagamers gone to? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 04:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

   I don't really agree with Giles, but his argument is more about the organized, player base who metagame/use forums/are in groups rather than the population as a whole. -MHSstaff 04:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

4. No - I say this as somebody who's zed took part in BB3, or at least tried. I had extreme difficulty ever finding the horde, and ending up sitting outside Caiger Mall for 3 months. I find myself agreeing with Giles, Ross, and sadly, Anime Sucks. This wasn't really on the scale of the other bashes, imo.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 07:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
5. No - as Yonnua above, the third Bash didn't bother to update the wiki enough, anyone trying to follow via the wiki would find themselves a suburb or two behind, wandering ruins. Seemed kinda selfish. Plus the grande finale we were promised was a waste of time sitting around waiting for nothing for a few weeks. Saying that, it was kinda historical, and had its moments, but fuck it - am punishing its inadequacies with a NO. --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 09:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
6. Nay A big horde steamrolling Malton historical? No. More like day to day business. Compared to BB2, it really isn't anything special. Mostly as the others too. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 11:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
7. No - As Anime. --Papa Moloch 14:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
8. NO as above except for thad.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 16:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
9. No - due to peer pressure. I was involved in it, but I didnt see it being that huge it needs historical status.--Rapture 23:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
10. No -- Sad to say, but the math is simple. Escape =! Historical, BB3 << Escape (due to the fact that BB3 came from Escape), therefore BB =! Historical. Besides, according to the map on the page, they didn't even manage to hit every single 'burb before giving up. Asheets 23:08, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

    Um BB3 came from Escape what? Can I have some of what you're smoking?-- Skoll ^Die 23:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

    This gentleman seems to be mistaking Big Bash 3 with The Red Death, which is a smallish horde which joined BB3 after the Bash was already rolling. Praise Knowledge, down with Ignorance! --DT^PK 00:41, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

11. Nah - Like YoKo above, I got lost dead early into it with mah zambah. Lost, or bored, can't remember which now. Either way, it was balls. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |
     
    13:08, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
12. No - as said above --Efighter 16:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
13. No - Just not really as important as the first two. And I'd consider Escape more noteworthy in 2010.-- Adward  17:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
14. No - I was going to attend but it had all been done 1st and 2nd time --C Whitty 20:30, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
15. No - BB3 did not raise or even meet the bar set by previous Bashing. --ZiP^MH+LUE 20:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

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