User talk:Suicidalangel

Main ‡ Converse me ‡ Sand Castles ‡ Need Assylum? ‡ POW Æ The two and only rules: I'm the only one allowed to use blinking text, and the rules are subject to my smallest whims. If you're not smart enough to figure out this is my talk page, then leave. Now. If you do stay to chat, don't be an ass. Warning Please do not repeatedly strike votes and vote after the a suggestion's voting period on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:25, 31 May 2009 (BST) First warning in a while... As per request, you have permission to blow up the image of the stop hand to whichever size you'd like. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:25, 31 May 2009 (BST) Um...DDR...I would like to point you to the bottom of this page. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs (status:‎Mudkip!) 16:26, 31 May 2009 (BST) Hehehe. I didn't notice Cheese's edit confliction on the VB page. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:28, 31 May 2009 (BST) SA Yes, it says "unless your SA" but by the look of things that wasn't put up there afterwards your rule breaking. Oh look: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKrazy_Monkey&diff=1359587&oldid=1359573 Its same thing exactly. Now your being hypocritical. Come on, don't be like that :( .Thadeous Oakley He broke my rules first. It's fair. Yours is not.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 11:07, 20 May 2009 (BST) Why don't we start applying that to everything. He vandalized my page, so I can vandalize his. Your logic sucks. Thadeous Oakley It does, though, once again prove that it isn't the exact same case as whats going on now, like you previously claimed. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:10, 20 May 2009 (BST) Yes, its a world of difference *cough cough*. This is all so petty, from my edit to you guys making a huge deal about. You don't think Cheese could actually handle what I did himself? Thadeous Oakley 14:58, 20 May 2009 (BST) Keep in mind that it is SA that is reverting all your edits, I just wanted to try and talk you out of continuing with something so petty. The way I see it, until Cheese allows you to do it, the page should stay in its original state, because thats the only confirmed state that Cheese definitely wants it to be. Insisting on something like that is pointless and stupid. I honestly don't know why you want to be under that heading so much. And to be honest, the further you press on with it, I think the further your motives will show, and so the poorer the chances will be of having your way. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:07, 20 May 2009 (BST) At this point I don't really care about my original stupid under header post. The reason that I am pushing this through is no longer, because I wanted to place a silly message under his header, but because I firmly believe I did nothing wrong in the first place and that SA has no right to undo my edit. The only person who has that right is Cheese. And unless I start page blanking or something in that manner SA's interference isn't justified, especially since he did the exact same earlier. If anyone wants to make a VB case out of it then go right ahead. I stick to my believes.... Also, why are you trying to talk only me out of doing something petty? You might aswell start with SA then too. Thadeous Oakley 16:43, 20 May 2009 (BST) "Please note that all contributions to The Urban Dead Wiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here." At the bottom of the edit box. Yeah. I think you broke his rules, quite clearly at that. He has made an exception to me after we had it out, but has not made one for you. Which would also make me justified, as I'm reverting vandalism, no matter if it's punishable as of yet. And he's talking to you because you started the initial negative edit, I just reverted it.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 20:18, 20 May 2009 (BST) "Stawp it. He has in no way expressed that he would like his rules to be broken, regardless of past infractions of them. Just because someone did it before doesn't mean it's alright to do it again.) " (by SA) . Finally a somewhat tiny bit of admitting that you broke his rules yourself. (was it that hard?) As well as an entire new argument against me not doing it Thadeous Oakley "He has made an exception to me after we had it out" "He broke my rules first. It's fair" I've already admitted to breaking his rules, albeit a long time ago, and an exception was eventually made in the end. No, that wasn't a new argument either, it's simply restating my old argument in a new set of words. You're just too dumb to have realized that. :P --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:39, 21 May 2009 (BST) I don't how you read English, but that is a new argument. First you said he made an exception for you and that he broke your rules first. Now your saying, just because it happened in the past doesn't mean it should again. That's a difference and calling me stupid really isn't valid. Thadeous Oakley 11:08, 21 May 2009 (BST) "Valid"? I think maybe you should stop using words that sound cool and stick to ones whose correct usages you actually know. --Cyberbob 14:30, 21 May 2009 (BST) Valid: 1. sound; just; well-founded: a valid reason.2. producing the desired result; effective: a valid antidote for gloom. 3. having force, weight, or cogency; authoritative. 4. legally sound, effective, or binding; having legal force: a valid contract. 5. Logic. (of an argument) so constructed that if the premises are jointly asserted, the conclusion cannot be denied without contradiction. 6. Archaic. robust; well; healthy. ---------Him calling me stupid is not just or well-founded nor is it so logically constructed that it cannot be denied. In other words, it really isn't valid. I think maybe you stop trying to make me look bad and stick to the actual subject.Thadeous Oakley 15:06, 21 May 2009 (BST) "Not just or well-founded"? That is a blatant lie. Apologise. --Cyberbob 15:14, 21 May 2009 (BST) lol --Pestolence(talk) 19:40, 21 May 2009 (BST) Don't try to amateur wikilawyer this. Cheese has specified that your edits are unwanted, so don't do it. Did cheese revert SA's edits? No. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:50, 20 May 2009 (BST) Where has Cheese specified that my edits are unwanted? Link? Thadeous Oakley Did you even look at the page history, DDR? Cheese has yet to react to this situation. Thadeous Oakley Reckon you might see fit to start using some timestamps? --Cyberbob 07:17, 20 May 2009 (BST) My normal signature isn't allowed on this page, I'm afraid. Thadeous Oakley You can still add in a timestamp with ~~~~~. --Cyberbob 13:16, 20 May 2009 (BST) Thank you, I recalled something like that possible, like -~~~ or something but that obviously didn't work. Thadeous Oakley 14:50, 20 May 2009 (BST) I'm a little confused, how come your sig isn't allowed? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:54, 20 May 2009 (BST) My signature blinks. SA decided he doesn't want it here, so unless I want my comments deleted (or annoy SA :D) I need to adapt. Thadeous Oakley 15:04, 20 May 2009 (BST) I actually thought Cheese did the first undo, but I still stand by the opinion that you should wait till Cheese says you can make those changes, before spamming his talk page with repetitive edits and revisions. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:18, 20 May 2009 (BST) This whole argument is completely retarded. Can't everyone just shut the fuck up and move on with their lives? --Cyberbob 02:00, 21 May 2009 (BST) I'm bored.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:14, 21 May 2009 (BST) You new? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:50, 21 May 2009 (BST) I see your point Gnome but this goes beyond even UDWiki norms. --Cyberbob 08:46, 21 May 2009 (BST) So you don't find it amusing that I'm making Umbrella boy's life harder than necessary? Meh, oh well. I do.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 10:28, 21 May 2009 (BST) I don't like generalizing like that. I like to think that a good thing can come out of a bad clique... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:30, 21 May 2009 (BST) Who's the bad clique and whats the good thing?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 10:48, 21 May 2009 (BST) Making my life harder is a rather questionable motive for this, SA. Your only giving me more reasons to push through. Your also a laughable example of a bureaucrat by showing behavior like this :/. Thadeous Oakley 11:08, 21 May 2009 (BST) My bureaucrat duties do not follow me every where, dumb shit. That'd be like me using it as a badge to do whatever. You're a laughable example of a sentient being.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 20:10, 21 May 2009 (BST) You'd think someone with authority would act as an example for others. Troll on. Thadeous Oakley 20:48, 21 May 2009 (BST) I'm not trolling. I'm simply trying to keep another user from breaking someone else's rules. Seriously, fucking stop it. You're obeying my rules by not having your blinking sig here, do the fucking same and don't post below that area. I'm not wanting to make this official in anyway, so you don't have to worry about bans or A/VB cases, but damn, you're just making yourself look bad by constantly trying to break someone else's rules, when they did not give you permission to I might add, for the fucking hell of it. You've got a bad enough rep as it is, quit digging your hole deeper.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:22, 21 May 2009 (BST) I invite you to explain why you are obeying these rules constitutes a difference with Cheese's rules explains the difference between what you're saying and precedence's example. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:00, 22 May 2009 (BST) I don't think that's even in English to be honest. =/ -- Cheese 17:24, 22 May 2009 (BST) Yeah, could you rephrase that? --Pestolence(talk) 20:43, 22 May 2009 (BST) I read this comment about 40 times and I still couldn't decipher the 3 arguments Iscariot was trying to simultaneously put forward. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 00:57, 23 May 2009 (BST) See what you people are doing? You aren't being SUPAR L33T TROLS - you're making him think he's part of teh k00l kr3w and that this is all lololol amirite guise? :< :< :< This is exactly the reason this has to stop. --Cyberbob 12:10, 21 May 2009 (BST) You're right, of course but, there's also the aside that he's dumb enough that he thinks that anyway without their input. Apparently he doesn't know the extent of how many people he's actually forced to dislike him or how close he's actually brought himself to being dropped from basically everything. --Karekmaps?! 15:43, 22 May 2009 (BST) I'm pretty sure that giving him the cold shoulder would do more to reinforce the notion that all this isn't just banter than anything anyone could say would. --Cyberbob 16:29, 22 May 2009 (BST) Just to confirm, are we talking about me or Thadeous?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:13, 23 May 2009 (BST) Thadeous obv. --Cyberbob 04:24, 23 May 2009 (BST) Okay. Just really tired right now. My final day of high school was today, finals drained me. Thinking straight takes too much effort. :) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:34, 23 May 2009 (BST) Teh Cheezle's Response Thad, SA's header bit was added by me after he put a post there and it's kind of become a permanent feature of my talk page now so I would appreciate it was left. In any case, there was no real need for you two to spam my talk page with reverts. =p I am capable of pressing rollback. -- Cheese 17:24, 22 May 2009 (BST) White Storm You're a sysop, deleted pages are not wiped in history wipes, you can look it up. --Karekmaps?! 03:33, 29 April 2009 (BST) Yeah, we already sorted that out. Completely forgot I had that ability to do that. ^^ --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:32, 29 April 2009 (BST) A/VB I like the part where everyone is avoiding the case Nubis brought against J3D like the plague. Cyberbob 13:46, 4 April 2009 (BST) I'm still thinking on it. But yeah, definite avoidance. I'm ruling a little bit though.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 13:48, 4 April 2009 (BST) It's irritating to watch, isn't it? Props for having the guts, SA. Even in the face of scary Nubconn (they are both morphing transformers, I heard). DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:36, 6 April 2009 (BST) What's irritating to watch is people kissing ass and other people avoiding making decisions and then bitching at those people that actually DO get off their ass.--– Nubis NWO 03:45, 8 April 2009 (BST) Was that actually aimed at me? I merely think SA is mostly right in this case. If there had been a third case similar to the first two J3D put against you, I would have backed you. Don't get me wrong, I'm frustrated at the lack of participation in this case too. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:15, 8 April 2009 (BST) WY bid Your talk page burns my retina! Oh, and Wan Yao's promotion bid has gone the distance. I feel that he hasn't shown enough interest in the wiki lately to warrant a promotion. While it's understandable that users go through periods of lessor contributions, I don't think we can promote him at this time. Feel free to rule on the bid in this way, unless you disagree, in which case I'd welcome further discussion. Given your recent absence, it's probably best if I process this bid in the next day or two, unless I hear back -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:02 24 March 2009 (BST) soup thought you might like to know that rakuen's promo bid has been due for final processing for a few days now kthx --Cyberbob 11:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC) Oh hai (part 2 of ?) In reference to your UDWiki:Terms of Use page, I think it'll need rewritten quite heavily so that shows clearly what applies to us user types rather than the payment bit (which only applies to Kevan). Mind if I have a stab at it? =) -- Cheese 15:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC) Oh hai (part 1 of ?) I'd just like to draw your attention over to this important document that requires your attention while I stealthily help myself to the contents of your wallet. We're just 6 votes short of the required 20 and your participation in the vote would be greatly appreciated. =) Thank you. -- Cheese 21:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC) Steelin' Mah Votez I am going to find some reason to misconduct you, and no you cannot borrow 3 pence from Honestmistake. IT ALL BELONGS TO ME! --ZsL 17:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC) Karek promotion He has got a clear vouch from the community, and although he seems hesitant to remain a sysop, he hasn't replied to my message on his talk page. I say we confirm his sysop status, and if he is unwilling to continue, let him go through the demotions page -- boxy talk • teh rulz 11:59 22 February 2009 (BST) Thank You For being the first sysop I have dealt with to see reason. I can promise with certainty I will not be a bother to you or the wiki in general. That being said I do request my group page Lockettside Valkyries be taken off protection status. There really is no need for that is there? Also, I apologise for my earlier vandalism under the Leonidas titles, I had just seen 300 for the millionth time and figured if I was banned anyway it wouldn't hurt to have a little fun. That won't happen again. Eternal Chimera 01:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC) No, for some reason that email account was lost when I switched from dsl to Comcast. So if you sent anything important may I request you simply post it on my talk page?Eternal Chimera 01:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Oh, and congratulations on making Sysop. That said, I predicted it would happen at some point. It just took longer than I thought because you're not enough of an ass. =] Eternal Chimera 01:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC) I appreciate it. Just don't get yourself in trouble for helping me out. I've already brought myself down by losing my temper, I refuse to drag you with me. After all, worst case scenario, I can always make more alts. I've already set a bloody wiki record. I'm not an asshole but I am stubborn. =] Eternal Chimera 01:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC) I understand. If at all possible I would appreciate having my original unbanned so I can abandon this account along with any others (I have dozens I've created I've never even used yet, just in cae I run out of proxies =P). Eternal Chimera 01:24, 13 February 2009 (UTC) SA, you should ban him immediately....Jed got DEMOTED for refusing to act about a "known" alt.--CyberRead240 01:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Understood, and thank you. As for you, "Sexylegsread", you are unaware of the situation. Kindly silence yourself until a verdict has been reached. And I am NOT a "him". =/ Eternal Chimera 01:38, 13 February 2009 (UTC) I am aware, you feel you should be allowed to come back and edit but you have a history of abusing the wiki through alts rather than finding more sufficient way to fight your way back on here. Also there are no girls on the interweb.--CyberRead240 01:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC) God you're an oily little fag. Butthurt too, but right now mostly oily. And fag. --Cyberbob 01:48, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Oily? What will he do next!--CyberRead240 01:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Actually Iscariot is more of a vandal than Izumi ever was. --Karekmaps?! 04:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Sorry about breaking your little rule but as of right now I do not have a reliable email address to cntact you with, so this will have to do. I was just wondering if you have any recent news on my little predicament, as I have business that needs taking care of, been piling up for over a year now. I would much appreciate being up and running sometime in the near future if it is at all possible to convince the other blockhead sysops that I pose no threat to their precious little drama-filled online community. Regards, Izumi. Superiority 11:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC) There is nothing I can, or will do unless you can follow one simple rule. I said no more accounts, do you have a forum, anywhere other than here, for me to contact you at?--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 23:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC) Hell, if you can use the internet, join the New Malton Colossus forum, and PM me there. Just not here.--Suicidal Angel, Help needed? 23:14, 16 February 2009 (UTC) Resurrection of Caiger Mall Page You still planning on putting this page up for deletion? I've got no clue how to do it and would really love to see it gone. --Johnny Bass 16:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Help, please I have 2 images that I've uploaded, but I'm not going to use them. (they just aren't working the way I'd like) Can you tell me how to get them deleted? They are Image:Blooddrop.jpg and Image:Tiny_knife.jpg. It appears that I can't just delete the pages, myself... --LEt 22:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC) If you uploaded them, you can probably get rid of them at A/SD. --Pestolence(talk) 22:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC) Sure, I can take care of them. I'll cite this section of my talk page as Author consent.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 23:15, 8 February 2009 (UTC) I'd put them through the system if I were you, Angel. You might get taken to misconduct for just deleting them offhand. In fact, I think that's what the example is about... --Pestolence(talk) 00:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC) *Cough cough*--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 01:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC) Oh... --Pestolence(talk) 01:37, 10 February 2009 (UTC) Thank you! I didn't realize I could request that they be removed at A/SD. I'll do that next time! --LEt 00:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC) No problems.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 01:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC) The Ladder Theory Let's talk about changing the vandal ladder. Please answer honestly and fill in the circles completely. This is a timed test. What do you think about the idea of making it 3 warnings and after that you can start banning? ()Strongly Agree (O)Agree () Neutral ()Strongly Neutral ()Disagree ()Strongly Disagree Each case gets the punishment fitting it regardless of warning level. i.e. blanking pages, walls of text, or impersonation can earn a 24 ban even if it is a first offense) ()Too bloody confusing ()Bans for Everyone (O)There really isn't a consistent scale for each action now that I think about it. Or maybe there is. Did you notice that on the page it says Modification of these guidelines is expected as a part of the growth of this community. Those wishing to modify any part of this document should discuss the changes on this page's talk page. Consensus of the community is required in order to change these guidelines. but the talk page is locked? () I did not ()That explains a lot! () LOL (O) I did when I first saw the page. Haven't cared since. --– Nubis NWO 19:54, 8 February 2009 (UTC) Your test answers sucked for the most part. :P I added in an answer on the last question. :) --BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC) I was quite fond of "strongly neutral". But seriously, other than adding a "floating 3rd warning" to be used like a Get out of Ban Free card can you think of any way to implement a legit way to alter the ladder? It needs to be something that a policy can be based on. NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!!--– Nubis NWO 22:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC) How about just leaving the ladder how it is, and should one or more sysops decide they don't think the punishment is suitable compared to the action, they can forego said punishment in favour oh a lesser one. It allows the system to be rigid enough to easily follow in the majority of the cases, which seem to be okay in terms of punishments being handed out accordingly, but flexible enough to allow small cases that, while not entirely good, don't deserve a month ban or something.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 23:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC) Because that will result in unpopular users not getting the benefit of the doubt (or the 3rd warning) because it will be argued that they already had 2 chances. You see that Read didn't get any slack when his "vandalism" wasn't wiki ending. We need a change in A/VB and I think I have a few ideas.--– Nubis NWO 15:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC) I think it could be done my way, but you do have a point with unpopular users getting shafted on a small issue. Our current team likes to sheep towards one way more often than not. :/ --BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 22:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Here: Consider the user's past edits, warnings and blocks, the severity of their offense, the likelihood that their edit(s) could have been made in error or otherwise in good faith, and the type of user in question [...] It shouldn't be too hard to remain impartial if you follow that?--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC) We're also supposed to assume good faith. Read's first revision was him trying to bring it within policy, and Hag straight bans him. No good faith assumption there.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 22:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Yes. I'm not talking about read, just about not using a very structured ladder system. Good faith should always be assumed, unless there is strong evidence to the contrary. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC) Elections Will you be standing for the upcoming 'crat elections? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Hell, I don't even know when they are at the moment. :D --BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 11:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Should be any day now-as soon as someone bothers to make the whole bid thingy (it's been three months and two days since the last one.) Hell, I would do it, but my intertubes are made of fail at the moment ;(. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC) The next one is towards the end of the month, the time runs from a successful conclusion of the election i.e. when Cheese received his 'crat status. Given this, the question is, will you stand and serve as 'crat? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 11:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Meh, sure, why not? I doubt I'd win anyway.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 22:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC) If you get crat, I'm going to laugh at you. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC) HAHAHAHAHAH! --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC) I forgot to thank you For this edit. Thanks :D. (Seriously though, I thought I did this days ago. Sorry :(.) Linkthewindow  Talk  14:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC) Actually, I did. My god, I'm an idiot. A FREE COOKIE Linkthewindow has given Suicidialangel a cookie for for fixing my user page, and getting thanked twice Linkthewindow  Talk  14:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC) Uranium BOMBS--/~Rakuen~\Talk I Still Love Grim 02:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC) N is for no survivors? --Pyrranha 23:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC) Less than three--/~Rakuen~\Talk I Still Love Grim 04:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC) A point on faith wikipedia:Bad_faith. The point? Intentionally abusing policy is always in bad faith. For some reason people always seem to not realize that when ruling on certain users cases. If he was intentionally trying to abuse a loophole in a policy the existence of the loophole does mean he wasn't breaking any rules according to the words but that he was breaking the purpose of the policy, that he knows as much means that the edit is in bad faith and that it's in bad faith means it does in fact qualify for punishment under our vandalism policy.--Karekmaps?! 22:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC) Thanks I'll test it on my ye olde monitor later. Damn, that piece of code was so obvious >:(. Linkthewindow  Talk  00:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC) RE:PARTY!!! A FREE COOKIE Axe Hack has given Suicidalangel a cookie for no reason at all. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC) Sysopness Congratulations! You are now a sysop. =) After almost unanimous support, there's not really any other outcome. =p Anyway, good luck and try not to break anything. Enjoy! -- Cheese 11:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Congratulations SA. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Welcome to the cool guys club. And link, ur next. --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talk • contribs) at 12:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Do eet nao! - Can 'crats nominate folk for promotion? =/ -- Cheese 12:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Of course they can :P --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talk • contribs) at 12:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Hah! Now do some work. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC) I did before you even said this. :P --Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 16:43, 29 January 2009 (UTC) You look funny when you delete stuff. Also, what is your opinion on this template? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC) It has a lot of stuff to punch in, which was inevitable. It's a lot better than using the code, since I won't need to go back and copy+paste stuff to use. I might start converting my game to template, then start up the story again today... --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC) I made some large adjustments, not 100% fond of the colours, but I can always change those afterword. Does it look usable? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC) Congrats. You may now begin screening potential Arbiters for when Iscariot gets a wild hair. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 22:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC) Cheers!--Janus talk 13:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC) Sig Perhaps I'm wrong, but don't you have to keep a link to your page in your signature? (Sorry if you have one and I'm just being dense, but your sig on the sandbox doesn't look like you have one). --Pestolence(talk) 18:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC) Ok, thanks. --Pestolence(talk) 19:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC) Satisfy my curiosity You always lived in the US?--Thadeous Oakley 21:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC) Very fast response: Fail or Win? I was just wondering if it was coincidence that your in-game character is named Engel while you call yourself suicidalangel. You see, your name is suicidalangel. "Engel" is the direct Dutch translation of the word "Angel".--Thadeous Oakley 21:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC) Aber ich spreche keine Deutsch. I dropped German two years ago, the grammar was too hard :P. I knew it wasn't coincidence!--Thadeous Oakley 10:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC) Errrrr*tic I dunno really, it was just a vague feeling I had at the time. Actually reading your bid got rid of it. --Cyberbob 21:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC) Your thoughts on this? Also i'm adding you to UHUB.--xoxo 00:54, 14 January 2009 (UTC) Code Stealers That's too bad. Looked like a hilarious group. -- CITIZEN VI 03:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC) Hi again Meanie. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Ok, it's good that we got that cleared up. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC) No chickens. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Mittens are fine. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC) You can haz kittens.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Gut the kitten of its innards, turn inside-out like a sock and you've got a mitten. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:40, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Substitute the kitten with yourself? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Bah, wimp. Quick question, how does this look? Is it looking/working the same as my userpage? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Good. Of course it looks messy at the moment, having filled in things with only gibberish. I'm making a template. :)--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC) But mine will be the bestest and the longest. It will probably be the only one that is completed. I am planning on finishing it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:21, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Maybe, how lengthy of a game will you make? I'm hardly past the starting point in mine (I have it all laid out in my head). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC) Yeah, well... :P and stuff. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC) :D I think I'm going to read your bid now, since I pounced on it fairly quickly. Rawr. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC) It's funny, because any other user would have been fine with your edit, or responded to query appropriately. It's hilarious that you even felt it necessary to justify it as a sysop action so you can actually get him to read not just delete it outright. On top of that, you were awarded an A/M and A/VB case for your efforts. I don't understand why you guys and other users decide to put up with him. You have more than enough reason for this, though if you're not keen on that there's always this. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:21, 31 May 2009 (BST) Sure, you could ban him for some cooked-up reason (wat hes doan MUST be bad fayth rite)... or you could stop playing into his hands and quit giving him even the slightest leeway for bringing cases against people that won't be dismissed out of hand. Honestly, SA's as much to blame for his Misconduct case as Iscariot because he should have known what was coming. It's akin to holding your dinner plate under a dog's nose and getting angry when he grabs a mouthful. --Cyberbob 18:36, 31 May 2009 (BST) True and true. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:42, 31 May 2009 (BST) LOL (Yes that's an acronym son) I would have lol'd at this there, but I've been banned from his page :'(. So, lol here. Also, your talk page confuses me... --Pestolence(talk) 21:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Trying to find my way around the empty/confusing talk page So I can say thanks =] Liberty 12:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Postin on ur talk page Amidoinitrite? --ZsL 12:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Fuck no. :) -- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 20:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Hahaha! We made you remove the rules of your talk page, due to our inability/indifference to post properly! --ZsL 01:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC) Dammit, I should have seen that coming... --ZsL 01:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC) Thank You For the unofficial warn, it won't happen again :D. --Leroy jankens 21:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC) Dear SuicidalAngel, Can I have my spider back then please.--Lexicality 23:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC) D:! My spidah!--Lexicality 23:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC) Assylum could you add a few NPOV explanation of what was Assylum and who was part of it ? And list it on Category:Wiki Groups --—The preceding signed comment was added by Hagnat (talk • contribs) at 11:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC) Team Angel Sigs It should totally be something along the lines of BFFs NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSA etc. 4 EVA. Well, that sig for at least a week.--– Nubis NWO 09:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC) Psst. That could end with you guys getting dragged to VB for impersonating each other. ;p -- Cheese 22:22, 5 February 2009 (UTC) I'm changing that signature back to the last available version, SA. I had to go to the page history to work out if it was you or nubis that was signing on the promotions page. Tell me why I shouldn't take you to vandalism for deliberately breaking the sig policy to make some kind of bullshit point? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 23:41 5 February 2009 (BST) It's not a templated sig, so I've changed it on the promotions page. Please don't use it again -- boxy talk • teh rulz 23:46 5 February 2009 (BST) Because it has my link in it. ^^. Fine, I've made it more acceptable. If you find it unacceptable now, get started on some sort of policy, because this does not break the spirit, nor the letter of the rules. Also, I await my week ban from lack of due process.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 23:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC) Thankyou. It's still potentially confusing to newbies, however at least it's easy for most people to know who's sig it is now. BTW, even if you were escalated, it would be a warning, not a week ban, numbnuts -- boxy talk • teh rulz 23:59 5 February 2009 (BST) Thanks, crotchrocket. ;). I really don't expect y'all to follow due process anymore, if you hadn't noticed.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 00:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC) It's great when people insult eachother in good fun...... artard. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC) I thought we had something special Gnome? How could you do this to me? :'( --BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 00:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Wha? ... no no! It was in jest! Please don't leave me! OMG! Oohhh... --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC) kk i stil lov you.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 00:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC) i wuv u too... --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Well, y'all successfully confuzzled at least one person...  :) --Jen 03:26, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Eep...I thought it should go here, because it related to this discussion. And, naw, it's no problem. I'm rather amused by the whole matter. :) --Jen 03:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Will we still be BFFs if this goes south on me? --– Nubis NWO 03:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Look,i don't give a shite what sig you have but this is stupid, read got a week ban for far less. I know you didn't think he should have but the clear bias from boxy and the like isn't okay. Please change your sig, or convince them to strike reads ban and have whoever banned him do the time from a/m. Sorry to be such a fun sponge...--xoxo 04:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC) That's what we are trying to do though ???Where have you been?--– Nubis NWO 14:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC) BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW --Cyberbob 12:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Thanks for breaking my page when I look at it from a different computer Bob. But yeah, if you didn't notice from the Not Vandalims rulings, we don't think he did anyhting wrong from the start.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 16:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC) It's a little hard to take your righteous indignation at bobs BAAW seriously, when you're displaying that intentionally fucked up sig, hypocrite. Just FYI -- boxy talk • teh rulz 14:19 11 February 2009 (BST) I'm sorry Boxy. I can't help it that it doesn't look broken on my screen. Sorry for wasting your time.--BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 19:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC) "I was going to change it in a week anyway. Which is tomorrow. So keep crying about it Box man." Good, now you can go back to lecturing the kettles without looking too black yourself -- boxy talk • teh rulz 03:39 13 February 2009 (BST) I'm sorry Suicidalangel. I can't help it that it doesn't look broken on my screen. Sorry for wasting your time. --Cyberbob 17:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC) Thank you for your input. --Cyberbob 16:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC) I love that line. --– Nubis NWO 18:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC) For next time =) Thought you might find this useful. -- Cheese 15:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC) See, thing was, it looked deleted. I went back and checked right before you deleted it a second time (As I've had my coffee now, and I remembered the MFWA), and noticed it was one of them. Then it was gone. :'( --BFFs +SA+NSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSANSAN 4 EVA!!! 15:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC) OMFG! your a crat! burn everybody and everything! WOOO!----Sexualharrison 21:02, 21 February 2009 (UTC) And so ushers in a new era of terror and villainy... Sounds fun!-- Adward  22:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC) Links Sysop Bid. Going to decide? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 00:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC) Special:Contributions/OrangeGaf Worth a warning in your opinion? --Janus talk 14:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC) What would you warn him for? --Pestolence(talk) 21:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC) This part. Meh, I'm probably being too prude. --Janus talk 21:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC) I found it funny... In fact, it is so vulgar and absurd that I actually laughed out loud. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:20, 23 April 2009 (BST) Huh? You're a Bureaucrat now, eh? --Ducis DuxSlothTalk 00:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC) I have to wonder, what do these mean to you: Random Insanity Online; YTMND --the shoemaker 23:07, 6 April 2009 (BST) I love you Have my babies. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 05:14, 7 April 2009 (BST) Me too--/~Rakuen~\Talk I Still Love Grim 05:46, 7 April 2009 (BST) I don't approve of interracial relationships. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 05:49, 7 April 2009 (BST) If only I were a woman Sonny, I'd shit out an army of kids for you! :) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:39, 7 April 2009 (BST) k --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 18:26, 7 April 2009 (BST) Arby's...And other stuff... Oh gee. This is most assuring. Now who said that this time around, I'm gonna appear for a week, then disappear for another 3? How do you not know I won't be around for a good year or so? Huh? Huh? Yea. I thought so. Besides. You can definitely expect me around for longer then a week. It's senior year of high school, Spring Break's just a day away, and I'm gonna rock the house. By the way, if you look at my talk page, DDR and I are planning a manhunt for the "old crew". You're part of that "crew", no? Come and join! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:47, 8 April 2009 (BST) Iscariot Don't let it all get to you, he just pushes buttons for a response :( I'll always believe in you. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:29, 12 April 2009 (BST) Trust me, I know. I've dealt with him longer than you have. :P . Thanks for your reassurances though. They makes a happy 'crat! :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:41, 12 April 2009 (BST) My eyes! They hurt! On a different note, are User:Tarumigan and User:Tarumigan Gistarai the same person in your opinion? --Janus talk 00:56, 15 April 2009 (BST) Absolutely. Check the contributions, it looks like a very similar case to UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2009_04#User:Ricci_Bobby. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:36, 15 April 2009 (BST) Manhunt Rumour has it you wanted the chance to throw your little UD character into a pile of savage angry characters... Well, feel free to sign up here... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:42, 19 April 2009 (BST) Yeah, throw your ID in. I forgot! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:40, 19 April 2009 (BST) Sysop Help User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Kinch_Heihgts_Important_News. Would you be able to just check the deleted page and clarify that the page was only a few words long? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:00, 20 April 2009 (BST) Confirmzord. Exactly twelve words (by the way, I think SA likes his new posts at the top. Linkthewindow  Talk  15:08, 20 April 2009 (BST) I looked and just saw a lot of mixed up topics and no rules so I just winged it. Multiple times. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:19, 20 April 2009 (BST) To answer the above post: I did. But no one listened, so I stopped caring. And the point of this new header? Because I can.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:48, 20 April 2009 (BST) the link you sent that..actually had a lot of good information, thank you. -- Zhekarius 06:24, 22 April 2009 (BST) UBCS template Its understandable that with the template being in that namespace, anyone can edit it. I was merely stating that because its connected to Umbrella's now-inactive sub-group, only Umbrella members can edit it, so to avoid any petty disputes arising and avoidable vandal banning posts being made by my fellow group members. God knows I've made may share of edits to templates like that, like when I categorised all the 'this user is...' nationality templates (more details can be found on my projects page). But I usually leave group-connected templates alone, unless no-one in the group has noticed the problem with it, in which case, I fix the edit and let them know on their wiki page, like it says on PWP. Anyway I think the text problem is on Haliman's version of the UBCS template, I've looked at our version as the coding is fine. On Hal's, the color for the the text is black which is why it won't appear. --D.E.ATalk 12:07, 8 May 2009 (BST) ODC Now why have you deleted this page? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:38, 9 May 2009 (BST) 4 vs 4! The Stage is set! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:41, 9 May 2009 (BST) Plus, why not destroy Fourth Siege of Caiger Mall(DRAFT) too? It's been voted as speedy now. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:43, 9 May 2009 (BST) Because when I was deleting that bunch, I just brought them up in tabs and deleted them all in one go. I thought I didn't click that one, looks like I did anyway. But anyway, the groups "content" hasn't been changed or added in almost a year. It may have been undeleted, but if it hadn't, I'd have stood by my deletion. It's junk all in all. The "everything is kept otherwise" rule is kind of stupid to me.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:39, 9 May 2009 (BST) Well, there you go then. As long as you recognise it as a rule. Disk space is cheap, and we've got a lovely new server to fill up with rubbish. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:03, 9 May 2009 (BST) Rules can be changed or modified with precedent...>:) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 22:05, 9 May 2009 (BST) Also, does anyone want to make a misconduct case against me? I did screw up after all.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:40, 9 May 2009 (BST) Don't go begging for one. It was just a mistake, clumsiness =/= bad faith. You know that! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:46, 9 May 2009 (BST) It was a joke, 'cause you know, Iscariot is always all "ZOMG INCOMPETANCE MISCUNDUCT MUS BE HAZ!". Like I just noticed on the Undeletions page. Meh. He'll get his eventually.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 17:19, 9 May 2009 (BST) Yeah, I refrained from saying that Iscariot's had his jump on the case and if he didn't take it to A/M, then who would? Good luck in the future, maths genius ;) DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:20, 10 May 2009 (BST) Good luck to you, mister "I make Angel feel stupid because Angel forgot that it wasn't due to miscounting, but due to lack of attention, yet DDR made Angel think he really didn't know how to count just now, but suddenyl remembers that I'm still better than you". :) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:51, 10 May 2009 (BST) Mwahaha, and its incorrectedness will only make it more witty when I call you that permanently from now on! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:05, 10 May 2009 (BST) Sad thing is, I'm going to be passing Calculus with over a hundred percent. :/ --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:10, 10 May 2009 (BST) Nerd--/~Rakuen~\Talk I Still Love Grim 20:05, 23 May 2009 (BST) User_talk:Thari#Inactivity Apparently, it's time. Do you agree to his demotion? (Sorry if I'm a few days hours early, by the way. Us Australians are in a funny time zone.) Linkthewindow  Talk  13:21, 25 May 2009 (BST) Theres nothing funny about it =[ DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:33, 25 May 2009 (BST) Oh, I know. It's horrible trying to schedule things around you Aussies sometimes. :/ --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:56, 25 May 2009 (BST) I think its all the beer, flys and shrimp. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:02, 25 May 2009 (BST) On that note, by the time I get home, it's likely that two weeks would have passed for these guys. What's your thoughts on them? Linkthewindow  Talk  22:26, 25 May 2009 (BST) Haliman is a complete no. Ross has my full support, DDR can be given a chance in my opinion, make sure his new-ish behavior is sincere, Pestolence I'm iffy about. There seems to be a concern over his sysops newb-ish-ness and his behavior from a month or so ago. If he keeps how he's going, sure promote him in a month or so. At the moment, I'm thinking a no for now.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:19, 25 May 2009 (BST) Pretty much exactly what I've thought. Ross has my full support, DDR is fine and seem sincere, and, like you, Pestolence could be good, but I'm not sure. He's a tad inexperienced, but if he's still around and actively contributing in a few months (and he's still contributing at the same level,) he'll be fine. AFAIK, they've got a few more hours, so, unless you want to do it, I'll do the heavy lifting at A/PM later tonight or tomorrow morning. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:21, 26 May 2009 (BST) Alright then, just did Ross and Haliman. I'm not exactly sure about what you think about DDR (although I'm pretty sure you agree to his promontion, but you can never be certain with this :P,) and Pest - I think he's kind of like your first one, and DDR's first one - too soon. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:01, 26 May 2009 (BST) It's not so much because I was too soon when I first ran, it's more because I was gone for so long before I ran. :). DDR can be given a shot, Pestolence can wait a month or two.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:27, 27 May 2009 (BST) There we go, both done now. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:58, 27 May 2009 (BST) Now I can edit your archives, SA. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:01, 27 May 2009 (BST) Meh, as long as it's not Zinker and his army of socks.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:56, 27 May 2009 (BST) lol Fighting pettiness with pettiness all over the wiki. Good luck with that -- boxy talk • teh rulz 17:10 30 May 2009 (BST) Well, if some people would just grow some balls and do what should be done the "pettiness" would be gone.--– Nubis NWO 17:44, 30 May 2009 (BST) I'm doing something about it right now... :'(. I'm just miffed because their have been a couple occasions where someone has tried to do something about it. When Mid did it, there was too much reliance upon Ops to do the work of striking invalid justifications. Funt's try had against responses like (Severely cut down): (1)"We should require usefull justifications" and (2)Any justification is better than nothing" This one is a viable option, but would it honestly work and make the system better? Is any justification really better than nothing? All "Kill-WTFCENTAURS" does is add data to the wiki. Useless to the suggestion, the suggester and Kevan in most ways. Sure, you can call me petty, but at least I'm doing something about it right now. You can help by adding to the discussion and making sure we get enough people to add their opinions and vote when the time comes.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:29, 30 May 2009 (BST) Fighting pettiness all over the wiki fighting pettiness with pettiness. Good luck with that --Cyberbob 18:49, 30 May 2009 (BST) Warning Please do not continue to unstrike unjustified suggestion votes even though they've been legitimately struck on this wiki. Continuing this behaviour may lead to your editing privileges being revoked. Good luck with getting the rules changed though. Pretty much every other voting thing on the wiki doesn't require justification.-- Cheese 16:24, 31 May 2009 (BST) zombie lord I'm actually deleting my irrelevant (to the suggestion discussion) posts and his responses, neither of which have anything to do with the subjects, just us attacking each other. If you wish to take it up with a sysop, that is your perogative, but I've already sent a message to DDR about trying to clean up my own act. If you like, I can put his back in, but I doubt they would make much sense, lol.--Pesatyel 00:24, 1 June 2009 (BST) Pes, I AM a sysops. That's why I was telling you it's arbies or somewhere else. Please?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:33, 1 June 2009 (BST) Also, did you remove what he was saying and does that count as vandalism from you yourself? --Bob Boberton TF / DW 00:27, 1 June 2009 (BST) That's a possibility. But since what neither of us was saying had anything to do with anything but us attacking each other, I believe I am justified. I didn't remove anyone else's "dealings" with him and I didn't remove posts that were on topic, even if they were attacks.--Pesatyel 00:31, 1 June 2009 (BST) That part was an accident, I was going to roll back my edit and then roll back his to replace ZL's posts, but he edited before I did, and it removed his. That was good faith accidentals. His was bad faith removage.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:33, 1 June 2009 (BST) I realized that, at first I thought Bob was talking about me lol. Do you REALLY want me to return my arguments with ZL? They were just clogging the page and they weren't contributing to anything but making us both look like assholes.--Pesatyel 00:36, 1 June 2009 (BST) If you don't, he has a potential A/VB case on you. I'm just trying to keep you from showing up on there without good reason.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:37, 1 June 2009 (BST) Perhaps and thanks for the concern. This guy has ALWAYS ticked me off, but before it was just a matter of putting up with him till he went away. Then he came back with the exact same shit as last time. The good thing is I wasn't the only one he ticked off this time. If he wants to bring it up, he can, but I believe I'm justified in my actions. And, again, thanks for the concern. I think I've made my last point (hopefully) with him anyway.--Pesatyel 00:48, 1 June 2009 (BST) You may believe, but from an Admin point of you, you're not. I hope this is ended, but if it's not, I can't say it enough that the answer isn't in warring back and forth, it's taking the case to an Admin section of the wiki.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:50, 1 June 2009 (BST) I hear you. I posited a legitimate question about his suggestion, even though I know he will just answer it with "OMG you can't read" or something. So that's that. I'm not sure what his problem is, but I'm done.--Pesatyel 01:03, 1 June 2009 (BST)