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Man, you are being rude

Even if I was stupid (and I am not no matter what you may think) it would still be very impolite to say the things you said. You act like you own the Wiki. And I am glad you don't - no matter how much you do for it. This is sad. --JohnRubin 20:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes. --Funt Solo 20:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

lol --SporeSore 13:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

we <3 bollocks !

Ahahaaaa!! That's what I used to think, too. I couldn't figure out for the life of me what it meant, it looks like... well... bollocks. I think someone had to tell me. At least I'm not the only one.... --WanYao 21:39, 14 April 2008 (BST)

Ee-ouk! And Hagnat says he bollocks Jorm! OH NOES! --Funt Solo ^QT 21:46, 14 April 2008 (BST)

Precinct 13?

I was reading through your suggs (some of which are very cool and found this reference to precinct 13, what is it and why is it in gatcombeton? Thanks.--xoxo 10:24, 4 May 2008 (BST)

Gatcombeton is the 13th suburb (reading ttb-ltr), and the Lamport Walk PD is an island, surrounded by car parks and streets. This is reminiscent of the set up for the movie Assault on Precinct 13. That's all. --Funt Solo ^QT 12:28, 4 May 2008 (BST)

Ah ok, i figured it was something such. Nice double meaning, and i've always meant to go that famous PD and overcade it...one day, one day...--xoxo 05:48, 5 May 2008 (BST)

The day has come. Actually it came a few weeks ago. But i just noticed this so i thought i'd let you know that my dream has come true.--xoxo 02:00, 9 June 2008 (BST)

Noice Work

Standarisation FTW. now to get rid of those pesky group lists on the RHS panel...--xoxo 08:29, 29 September 2008 (BST)

Cheers! Took farking ages. --Funt Solo ^QT 15:21, 29 September 2008 (BST)

Yes, nice work with the suburb pages. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:46, 29 September 2008 (BST)

suburb pages

I'm liking the redesign. How about putting the radio frequency above the map, like on the Caiger Mall page? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 17:44, 13 October 2008 (BST)

I don't know - it seems like non-essential information, and the top of the page is pretty crowded as it is. --Funt Solo ^QT 04:25, 14 October 2008 (BST)

True. DO we need a template at all? Can't we just have suburb frequency on the the Template:Suburb?--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:43, 14 October 2008 (BST)

If you look at the Pitneybank page (for example), they have a section on the page, where the template advertises the suburb freq., and then in the text they explain that the mall and fort have a dedicated freq. which is useful in-burb. They then discuss 'cading and mast location tactics for the 'burb's TRPs, as well as info on the local mobile phone mast. I do want to re-jig the template:suburb, though. I was thinking of moving the group listings right down to the bottom. Have all the standard info. at the top, so it's always in the same place, and then have the listings (which are sometimes tiny, sometimes huge). So, that's next on my list. --Funt Solo ^QT 16:47, 14 October 2008 (BST)

Dakerstown

So why you upped it to dangerous then? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:03, 19 October 2008 (BST)

I said on the edit - the EMR says 100+ zombies, which is Dangerous by the definitions. --Funt Solo ^QT 20:06, 19 October 2008 (BST)

Dangerous

• Zombies inside many resource buildings; OR hostile mobs of 50+

Or have i missed some small print? (Which is more than likely). --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:08, 19 October 2008 (BST)

Maybe I'm missing something, but 100 is more than 50, right? --Funt Solo ^QT 20:13, 19 October 2008 (BST)

Aha! So its a disagreement over the word mob, got it. By my reasoning the largest mob is (scans necronet) 34 and 10/11 trp's powered, but hey, you've just updated all the danger reports in a standard way, so i'm not going to rock the boat. :-) --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:21, 19 October 2008 (BST)

If you're on the ground and you think it qualifies as moderate (due to the spread of zombies, or the status of the suburb overall) I won't argue the case with you. I always consider 51-149 zombies to be Dangerous, and 150+ to be Very Dangerous, if I have no other information. I don't bother trying to figure out if they're in a mob, because (for most lightly populated suburbs) 100 zombies roaming around means it's pretty dangerous. --Funt Solo ^QT 20:27, 19 October 2008 (BST)

Why did you revert my news?

Ted Blackheart 21:05, 22 October 2008 (BST)

Not sure what news removal you're talking about specifically (knowing funt, it could be any number of posts...) but i suggest you read the news guidelines at the top of the news section on each suburb page. News posts should be NPOV and avoid tactical advice or calls for help.--xoxo 06:33, 23 October 2008 (BST)

First off, you'd edited the header incorrectly. The help pages (see links on your left) should help you with that - or just copy what other people have done and check your edits later. Secondly, your report referred to a single zombie attacking a single building. Frankly, for an entire suburb, that isn't newsworthy (unless the zombie is 10 stories high and shits exploding unicorns). There are individual building pages for what is happening at individual buildings. Your report would have been more appropriate there. --Funt Solo ^QT 07:10, 23 October 2008 (BST)

People like you make wikis die. You should be proud of yourself. Ted Blackheart 02:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry budster, but I have to side with Funt. Does this one zombie have, perhaps, several beautiful curves and lushious lips and eyes that scream 'lurrve me?' Because if not, it isn't worth an entire suburb news section. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

OH NOES! I kiLLED TEH WIKI? --Funt Solo ^QT 17:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, yes you did. Congratulations. Want a cookie?-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 18:17, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

	A FREE COOKIE
	Cheese has given Funt a cookie for killing the wiki

-- Cheese 18:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Can i haz?--xoxo 23:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

What?

Welcome back. I guess? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:21, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Thanks! (I guess?) --Funt Solo ^QT 21:24, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Nice to see you around. I have been missing the conspiracy updates. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 21:35, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Hasn't it all been peace and prosperity around here since Grim committed webicide? And now you're finally getting a policy in that watches the watchmen. C'blimey ... you're like a dog with a bone. --Funt Solo ^QT 21:39, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Heh. People asked for it, but as you can see, they didn't like Wan's policy, so I offered to make an alternative. As for the state of the wiki post-Grim, I think it's been pretty quiet save for some minor flares, such as the recent trend of overreacting when attempting to save the children due to the removal of the scheduled porn deletion. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™} 22:00, 17 August 2009 (BST)

boobs--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks ^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 21:39, 17 August 2009 (BST)

willies! --Funt Solo ^QT 21:39, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Boobs. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:18, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Yeah, good point. Boobs it is. --Funt Solo ^QT 22:20, 17 August 2009 (BST)

woah Cyberbob  Talk  22:56, 17 August 2009 (BST)

yes!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU FUNT!!!! --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 23:06, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Jebuth, it's cyberbob! Have you come full circle and become a sysop again? How long have I been out? What year is this? --Funt Solo ^QT 23:32, 17 August 2009 (BST)

Its spooky. Bobs actually turned (back) into a reasonable and decent member of the community... well mostly ;) --Honestmistake 00:01, 18 August 2009 (BST)

As requested

	A FREE COOKIE
	Revenant has given Funt Solo a cookie for bribery purposes (tax exempt).

• ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 00:08, 10 April 2011 (BST)

Your vouch was bought and paid for but, according to our records, never delivered. All we ask of you now is your vote on the current election. Do so, and stay in our good books. Fail, and we may have to send some of our agents to repossess our property.
The choice is, of course, entirely up to you. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 12:35, 9 May 2011 (BST)

What election? Be specific, you undead varmint! (And thanks - the cookie was lovely.) --Funt Solo ^QT 23:41, 17 May 2011 (BST)

It lives!

Welcome back, old man -- boxy 10:03, 16 August 2017 (BST)

I wish there were more drama events around for you to write about Funt. Your style was fantastic. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:32, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Tnx for the welx. Unfortunately, it's been so long I've forgotten how to edit a wiki. Am zambah irl, mebbe? --Funt Solo ^QT 15:40, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Purpose of the Wiki?

Is this wiki fit for purpose?

I can't help but notice the wiki is something of a ghost town. It has all this info on it (much of it years old and probably irrelevant), but only a handful of editors. I wonder about user stats (of the wiki, not the game) and also what use any player of Urban Dead might make of the info here.

Coming into the main page we have news from 2015 and a huge community portal that was last edited in 2014. There's links to Monroeville (9 users) and Borehamwood (7 users). The suggestions portal was updated 8 times in 2016, and never since.

Clearly, most of this information is pointless. Shouldn't we cut out all the useless crap nobody's used for years and just keep the useful stuff? Anyone mind if I go ahead and do some of that? --Funt Solo ^QT 22:41, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean delete the wiki? Or bring certain frequently-updated content front and center? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

"Bring certain frequently-updated content front and center", yes. (Perhaps some old stuff should be deleted. But, at the least, it probably shouldn't be linked to from the main page. Example: is there a need for the suggestions portal to be linked to right now? Not only does nobody make suggestions, but the game developer doesn't seem interested in updating the game.) --Funt Solo ^QT 23:14, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

No I suppose the suggestions page isn't worth too much right now. I would suggest putting some of the danger report and suburb info in a more visible place, since it's almost the only place that has an activity nowadays. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:24, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

It's nice to have a breath of fresh air through the wiki. In terms of user activity on the wiki, the Active Users list is one of the best indicators we probably have. In terms of the news for the front page, that's on Kevan, since it only gets updated in response to in-game news. So far as cutting out the useless stuff goes, I'm fine with reducing its visibility, particularly from the front page, but I'd still keep it around as an archive of things that once-were, since that's one of the primary ways the wiki is used by the people who are still around. I definitely wouldn't delete any old content.

Oh, and as far as updating the group listings go, which I saw you had gone through and done, most groups never update the wiki despite remaining active in-game. We typically do a Great Suburb Group Massacre every few years to confirm that they're truly inactive before we remove them, though the last one was in 2013, so we're likely due for a new one at this point.

Also, hi! I just realized I've never actually talked with you before since you pre-dated my start on the wiki. It's always a pleasure to see an old name return, particularly one who is so well-known from those early days. —Aichon— 15:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Aichon - nice to meet you & thanks for the welcome. (The wiki was totally mental then. Much more peaceful now.)

I hear you on the group listings. I'm thinking I should leave a message on their page letting them know I've removed them and if they're still active to let me know so I can change it back. I agree that archiving stuff is better than deleting it. We could replace He Who Shalt Not Be Named's news (as it appears he may never update it) with something else, I'm thinking.

My motivation is to make the wiki relevant: especially to new players. I hate the idea that they'd start the game, come into the wiki and just be bamboozled by all the ancient irrelevant content and think "oh, this place is dead", when actually it's got a lot of useful info. As the main page and some of the relevant templates are protected, I'll need to go through psyops to get it done anyway. --Funt Solo ^QT 18:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm completely on board with making the wiki more relevant to new players. You may want to get in touch with Stelar, since she's been looking to spruce up various pages and templates in the last year or two. Plus, her talk page is a bit more watched by others than yours is by this point, so reaching out to her would help to bring some more visibility to the changes you're looking to make. But yes, I definitely agree that culling some of the links to outdated or irrelevant resources while putting a focus on the areas that remain useful (e.g. guides) or are regularly updated (e.g. status map) would go a long way towards restoring the wiki's utility.

I do think you nailed it when you said that the wiki looks like a ghost town, and I'd love to see some new (or returning) blood reinvigorate the site and give it a new sense of direction. I know that I'm not the one to do it, since I've had a foot out the door for years, but if there's anything you need I'm happy to serve as a sounding board, offer technical assistance, or provide you with a (relatively) quick turnaround on admin services you may need. Plus, I'm always watching random pages, so I'll tidy up anything that looks like it may have gotten out of place. —Aichon— 20:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I haven't had much time in the past couple of months (got a promotion, moved for work, busy store, etc), but I keep wanting to do something with the front page. I have hated seeing the "Game news" thing being so outdated, especially since nothing really seemed to have come from the survey. I'm more than happy to collaborate on something like that. The East Becktown page was something Peralta and I did because we thought the suburb pages weren't as user friendly as they could be. So I've been involved in a couple things in improving/updating the wiki. But the main page has been virtually the same ever since I can remember, and I've been playing on and off over the past 10 years. So it definitely needs some kind of new life to it. stelar (talk) 13:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

I really liked the East Becktown page - all the info was right there without having to scroll. I thought "I'll use this as a template for a new template and do all the 'burb pages like this". My desires for change will of course meet the walls of financial reality and it'll take me months to get anything done. --Funt Solo ^QT 21:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello! Just wanted to drop by and say, I 100% endorse putting more relevant info front-and-center on the wiki. There've been some discussions about the main page before, but they never really got anywhere — but it's been long enough that it's probably time for a new one.

As for the suburb group listings, feel free to de-clutter them. I like the idea of leaving a talk page message for the groups removed, but it isn't officially required. As for a Great Suburb Group Massacre, another one at this point would probably be just me removing everything since so few groups check the wiki actively; the 2013 one will probably remain the last GSGM.

I don't recommend deleting large amounts of old info, though. One thing I love about the wiki is that it's an archaeologist's dream, a treasure-trove of information about a dying culture. We can decommission things (the suggestions system, for example) but definitely should keep all the old info up. This is definitely my classics/anthropology major talking :P

And, nice to meet you! Thanks for keeping the EMRs updated these last couple weeks (for the prior year or so it's been just me) and for your enthusiasm for the wiki. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 13:02, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Dammit Funt! How's tricks? Hmm. Archiving suggestions might have it's merits. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Bob - nice to meet you! Hi Rosslessness - long time no wiki. Feels weird to be thinking about archiving suggestions - it was so busy there. And now there's nothing left to spam. *weeps* --Funt Solo ^QT 21:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)