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This page is for the request of page deletions within the Urban Dead wiki. Due to concerns about loss of data, the ability to delete pages is restricted to system operators. As such, regular users will need to request a deletion from the system operators. For consistency and accountability, system operators also adhere to the guidelines listed here.
==Guidelines for Deletion Requests==
All Deletion Requests '''must''' contain the following information in order to be considered:
* '''A link to the page in question.''' Preferably bolded for visibility. Note that Category and Image links need a colon at the front to turn them into links (ie <code><nowiki>[[:Category:Category]]</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[:Image:Image.jpg]]</nowiki></code>).
* '''A reason for deletion.''' This should be short and to the point.
* '''A signed datestamp.''' This can be easily done by adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of your request.
In addition to placing a request on this page, please place the '''''<nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>''''' tag on the top of the page that is being recommended for deletion. Please make sure that the original content remains on the page, so that others can judge whether the page is worthy of deletion.
Any deletion request that does not contain these three pieces of information will not be considered, and will be removed by a system operator.
Once the deletion request has been entered, the request shall remain on this page, where it will be voted on for a period of two (2) weeks, as judged by the initial datestamp. At the conclusion of this two weeks, the appropriate action will be taken by a system operator, and at the end of that day the request will be moved into the [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive|Archive]].
Certain types of pages may be better being scheduled for deletion in order to reduce the amount of red tape and stop this page getting too cluttered. To lodge a request for scheduled deletions, go to [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling]].
Deletion of pages that match a certain criteria may be better serviced by a request for a Speedy Deletion. Speedy Deletions are for removal of pages that are clearly of no value to the wiki, and do not incur the two week voting requirement. Speedy Deletion requests can be lodged at [[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions]].
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==Guidelines for Voting on Deletion Requests==
* One vote per user.
* Voting should take place underneath the request, and each vote should be started with a {{CodeInline|#}} with no empty lines inbetween votes.
* There are four vote types:
** '''Delete'''. For agreement with the deletion request
** '''Merge'''. For indication that the content on the page should be merged with another page (includes an implicit '''Delete''').
** '''Speedy Delete'''. For indication that the page meets one of the [[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions|Speedy Deletions]] Criteria (includes an implicit '''Delete''').
** '''Keep'''. For disagreement with the deletion request.
* The specific vote keyword should be bolded within the lodged vote. Any relevant comments are also allowed, but these should not be bolded.
* At least one '''Delete''' vote must be entered by the deadline in order for a page to be deleted. System operators may not use their own vote after the deadline to delete a page.
* If more '''Delete''' votes are entered than '''Keep''' votes, the page will be deleted. In any other circumstance, the page is kept.
* If 3 '''Speedy Delete'''s are lodged, and there are no '''Keep''' Votes, the page will be deleted as per [[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions|Speedy Deletions]].
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===Personal images that no longer have a use===
'''[[:Image:TYSM.png]]''', '''[[:Image:TTP.png]]''', '''[[:Image:FACE.png]]''' and '''[[:Image:DARTH.png]]''' are all images that were uploaded by me that used to be on my user page, which are now obsolete, so I see no reason why they shouldn't be deleted, as they serve no further use. -- <small>[[User:Rorybob| <span style="color: #FF9933">Rahrah</span>]] [[Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack's_Manhunt_4|<span style="color: #FF9933">is pumped that he's going to lose YET ANOTHER Manhunt.</span>]] </small> 01:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
===[[The Newbiez]]===
Another abandoned group page.
#'''Delete'''. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 06:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 03:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete ''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{:User:Thanatologist/Sig}} 14:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 14:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' Orphaned, unused in 6 months, only editor inactive since October.  --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
#{{User:TripleU/Delete}} - There was a good amount of work put into it, but that was a long time ago. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 16:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Disk space = CHEEP! --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
==Recent Actions==
==Recent Actions==
===[[City Zoo]]===
===[[The_Republic_of_Digby|The Republic of Digby]]===
Inferior dupe of [[The City Zoo]]. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 22:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Content cleared by owner, might as well be a speedy --[[User:Bean|Bean]] 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)
:[[:Category:Zoos|This]] should also be mentioned. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
# '''Speedy''': Page was blanked by the only guy who maintained it, Author Edit Only implied --[[User:Bean|Bean]] 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)
::It seems to conform to other location type categories <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:22 25 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Scheduled''' - User has blanked the page and created a new group. Crit 7 by proxy.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 16:01, 12 June 2011 (BST)
#'''Merge''' - The acting sysop can just Copy Pasta the info. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 22:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Merge''' - I think you meant the other way around, though. Keep [[City Zoo]] and merge [[The City Zoo]] into it. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 22:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
#:I'm indifferent regarding the ''The'', but I do think that [[The City Zoo]] is both classier and more in-line with the typical layout for building-type pages. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 22:43, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
#::Its not a building type page though. Its a location page and it adheres to the style guide. Also [[City Zoo]] is linked at several hundred articles but [[The City Zoo]] only a few. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 23:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Merge''' - As Vapor. City Zoo is far more informative and useful.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:51, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
#:Also the DangerReport links to [[City Zoo]].--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:24, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
#Merge --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I merged the information into City Zoo, and redirected The City Zoo to it <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:22 25 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
:A bit preemptive but meh. It was the right call. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 00:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
::Preemptive? This could have been done without even coming to this page. It's just maintance that any user can do. It doesn't need sysop approval <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 00:30 25 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
:::Yeah it was a bit preemptive but whatever. Its cool. Trips could have just made the edits but he didn't. He got opinions befroe he went drastically changing the City Zoo page. Turns out it was a good thing he did. It worked out in the end. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[MALTON CITIZEN BRIGADE]]===
Another group that never got going. Possibly zergy judging by the talk page. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:10 15 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[User:Efighter|Efighter]] 07:54, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 10:08, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:54, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[Journal:Soror Repentia Azalea]]===
As below, just a sentence. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Conceived in 2008, never started. The author has been notified of this nomination. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 19:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:09 15 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 10:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[Journal:Jynnyssa]]===
Abandoned journal. Nothing on it bar a journal box. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:08 15 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 10:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[Hand of nod]]===
Another failed 2 man group. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Pre-wipe, never took off. Believed author has been informed. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:11, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:05 15 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' -- --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 14:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[Keepers of darkness]]===
Dead, as is the board linked on the page. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Inactive forum, no wiki activity since 2009. Author has been informed. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 06:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:03 15 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 10:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[UVGS Militia]]===
Still tidying. Another dead group. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Vapor/sig}} 18:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - 7 minutes worth of edits, and then nothing. Crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:02 15 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 10:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:50, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
===[[ZERG HUNT 3.0]]===
Another abandoned non-event. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
:I know the guy who's planning this. Have sent him a PM and recommended A/MR to userspace for the time of construction. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - The page was being built on December 12, 2010, less than two months ago; the event could still be active. (I'd vote delete if it comes up again in a few months and no constructive edits have been made.) --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 21:08, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#<s>'''Delete'''</s> - Page is 2 months old and no event yet. If it happens, page can be remade. No need to wait to see if it does. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 21:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#:'''Keep''' since Rapture said he wants it kept and it has been expanded somewhat. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 05:43, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - As Vapor.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 15:22, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#:If the page owner expands the page I'll withdraw my delete vote.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - As trips. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 13:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#Preemptive '''Keep''' while I wait to hear back. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 16:47, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#Keep - as its mine and the event was delayed for a month or two due to pressing zerg matters --[[User:Rapture|Rapture]] 20:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' Still in discussion behind closed doors --{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 20:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' Give it six months before you even think about deleting Cheese. Plus, the people who seem to be running the event have confirmed it's still around. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 12:34, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' As vapor -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 21:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - only a couple of months old, and the origianl author has shown interest <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:01 15 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Kept''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 00:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
===Unneeded Disambiguation Pages===
I don't really think these disambiguation pages are needed. They refer to locations that have ''similar'' names, not the ''same'' name. They aren't linked anywhere on the wiki. (and yes its a list but I don't see the need to put seperate requests for these).
*[[Alner]]
*[[Beele]]
*[[Craigie]]
*[[Dowell]]
*[[Faber]]
*[[Haim]]
*[[Huddy]]
*[[Marston]]
*[[Morris]]
*[[Colbourne]]
*[[Becktown]]
*[[Godfry]]
*[[Grayside]]
*[[Josephine]]
*[[Normandare]]
*[[Pople]]
*[[Shelley]]
*[[St. Elisabeth's]]
*[[Whitemore]]
*[[Woodroffe]]
*[[Heward]]
*[[Seamour]]
 
{{User:Vapor/sig}} 22:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Keep''' - Radio says: <nowiki>'</nowiki>''Reinforcements needed at Faber!''<nowiki>'</nowiki> Listener thinks: <nowiki>'</nowiki>''Golly, I wonder where that is.''<nowiki>'</nowiki> Listener searches the wiki for <nowiki>'</nowiki>''Faber''<nowiki>'</nowiki>. Listener discovers that Radio was referring to one of two locations. The wiki has thus provided valuable information, fulfilling it's raison d'être. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Me and Nubis and (I think) Ross, in 09, delinked all the disambiguation pages that existed at the time, with the intention of rendering them useless. UUU has actually gone a little bit backward in that process in making these, if you understand what I mean. The reason it's probably better that these ''don't'' exist rather than keeping them, is that once they're here, people start linking to the disambig page cause they're lazy and it just got messy for poor Nubis. And regarding UUU's vote, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Search?search=Faber&fulltext=Search]. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 02:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Also, I found where the rest were linked. [[Category talk:Disambiguation]]. Should I put these up for deleteion, too? {{User:Vapor/sig}} 03:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#:I'm just going to list them. They really aren't needed. Everything is linked properly now and as DDR demonstrated, searching for these words will give users the same info. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 03:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - if the Radio does actually refer to "[[Faber]]" in that way. A real page should be provided, as opposed to a search result <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:53 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Keep''' If people just look for Becktown or Faber, it's better that they stumble on a disambig than on the search results, especially for more casual users. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#Keep.  I have to go with Trip and Spidey on this one.  Even though they may be underused, they do provide valid information should anyone notice in-game a SOS broadcast from one of these many locations. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' they've been visted used so they must be needed.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 16:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#:If I understand it, many of these were used as the only link to certain locations back in the day so they got many views. Because of Nubis and DDR, the links were changed across the wiki and they were made usesless. Some of these disamigs were created after that project and so you see that those have less than a dozen views and most of those can be attributed to this deletion reqest and being on the Orphan list. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 17:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
#::[http://209.85.62.24/28018/83/0/a974054/avatar-974054.jpg]--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 16:49, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' As above.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Their purpose is worth the hassle. Remind me when I finish my GSGM business and I'll add co-ordinates to them for extra usefuless. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 13:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#:Done. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 19:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - per Spidey and Mis. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 12:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 
These have all been kept. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 05:54, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[The Survivors Alliance]]====
Another group that never was. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - No sign of activity since pre-wipe, forum appears to have been taken down. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:54 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[NTAG]]====
And again. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Group appears to have never gotten off the ground. For good measure, I emailed the recruitment address. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 02:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:56 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:DONE.{{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[The Masters of Malton]]====
And again. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}}
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:56 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' - No sign of activity since 2008, page is underdeveloped. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 23:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[Uchiha Clan]]====
And again. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}}
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:57 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[The 1337 Survivors]]====
Not very 1337 and nor does it seem to have done much surviving. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}}
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:00 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 10:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[S-Mart Maruaders]]====
Moar group. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}}
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1... fark <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:02 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' - Never got of the ground, no activity since 2008. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 07:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[Pettyfer Hordes]]====
Moar moar group. - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}}
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:03 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[Ross Report]]====
I'm assuming this is long dead and doesn't appear to be very notable. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - Otherwise, [[User_talk:Rosslessness#Random_Page_Find|my comment to Ross]] will seem silly to the future. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:03 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[Zombie Advocacy Group]]====
Because "scientifical" is not a word. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1. Oh god, will it evah stop <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:04 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[Deadmen Noir]]====
<insert reason here> -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:05 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
====[[Two Zero Two]]====
Also dead. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Delete.  I swear, Cheese is gonna be one of those Admins on YouTube who gets a kick at deleting every single video that gets a complaint for a Copyright violation or some shit. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:06 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
:Done. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 01:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
===Moar Stuff===
====[[The Zog of Marrinium]]====
Dead group. No edits since before the last purge. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 17:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete (don't forget the talk page)''' - They don't seem to have ever achieved notability, and probably disbanded years ago. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#Yeah, I remember the dragonhead angst... '''speedy''', crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:39 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:[[Talk:The Zog of Marrinium|Not quite]]. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::I'd like to reiterate my point about [[Talk:The Zog of Marrinium|these]] [[Talk:Troops Of Doom|links]] [[Talk:Fleshfest|here]]. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 16:46, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::God thad you're a tard. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::::'''Baleted.''' --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 16:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Whoops, first time ever, missed it etc etc --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 17:59, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Next time gadget {{grr}} --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:03, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[The people]]====
Another dead group. No edits since early last year. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 17:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:41 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Delete''' - ''Rather'' old, having been made in May 2010, but the only contributor has been inactive since then, so I'm not hopeful about it's revitalization. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 21:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Southwestern Brotherhood Of Steel]]====
And another. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:42 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Rambo Ninja Spiderman's Special Dark Watch]]====
While I like the name, the page says nothing and the group is dead. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keeeeep''' The rambo's were, (until january 12th of this year when theyr last member got nommed) a massively annoying borehamwood group, famed for annoying the rest of the survivor meta and hiding in ruined pinatas believing it to be a viable survival tactic. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Keep --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' for the awesome name alone. Also, what Ross said. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 23:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Meh''' - NPOV their page, if they were important <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:45 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Kept''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[The Four Horsemen]]====
Also dead. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' I had experience with this group when they were active and they have all been idled for 1/2 a year --{{User:A.schwan/sig}} 22:24, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:44 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Church of Zed]]====
Really old and dead. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - zed is dead, man... zed is dead <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:46 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[The Purple AppleSauce Clan]]====
And again. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 17:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:47 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[C.R.I.M.E. A.I.D.]]====
The acronym is terrible. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' (and yest the acronym is terrible and the page makes me think the author has a speech impediment which effects their ability to type). {{User:Vapor/sig}} 17:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - to new <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:49 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#:It's over a year old. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 22:44, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#::Aye, it was made in January last year. =p I'm not that mean. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Operation Crimson Tide]]====
Event that never was? -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - redirect to [[Ghetto Cow/Crimson Wolves]] <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:51 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Troops Of Doom]]====
Dead group number 325262336236. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:52 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:[[Talk:Troops Of Doom|Not quite]]. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Undertakers]]====
I seriously doubt they had a hundred and five members somehow. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - there is a deletion history, that needs looking into, perhaps. Or maybe it's just a common groupname <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:54 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Fleshfest]]====
Another dead group. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:55 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:[[Talk:Fleshfest|Not quite]]. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Rise With The Fallen]]====
And another. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}}
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Epic logo though. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Pre-wipe, never heard of them, seems to never have had multiple members. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:05, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:56 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Femme Ferale]]====
As above. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:03, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:57 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted''' --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
====[[Railway Raiders]]====
As above. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 18:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1, but open to recreation if they want to make the page... it's only a couple of months old <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:58 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
 
'''Deleted.'''--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 19:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
===Stuff===
[[BARHAHerjar]]
 
[[BARHAHmas]]
 
Some weird try at linking barhah to Norse mythology. The other an obvious reference to Christmas.  Little content that serves no purpose. Suggest merging into [[Barhah]]  --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 15:58, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:I'd say merge and redirect to the Lexicon or Dictionary. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 15:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


#'''Merge''' - In to Barhah.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
'''Deleted''' as a crit 7 by proxy.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="plainlinks">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 17:05, 12 June 2011 (BST)
#'''Merge''' with [[Barhah]] {{User:Vapor/sig}} 20:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' both well linked. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Marge''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:42, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:03 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>


'''Merged''' and redirected into Barhah. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 14:42, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
===[[Lamportians]]===
This page was [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive/Feb_2008#Lamportians|already]] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Lamportians deleted]. The only reason I haven't done this as a crit 6 is because the content doesn't match completely with the current version being more role-play than straight up recruiting(like the previous iteration). This is a term only used by a singular very small group. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''Obviously Delete''' - And I really want to do this as a crit 6 but am erring on the side of caution. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''delete''' - had potential but it's just kinda shit. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 06:02, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''Speedy''' - Content is similar enough, IMHO: Expanding it doesn't mean its's not crit 6. This should be a group page, it's not a "generic term".--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 09:14, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''Delete''' - But I don't think it's enough for a speedy. They've expanded on it quite a bit.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 13:42, 25 May 2011 (BST)


===Moar===
'''Deleted''' - This be unanimous.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 22:41, 8 June 2011 (BST)
[[Arkham Republic]]


See below. Another failed group attempt with no more then a few sentences.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 15:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
===[[Template:Wikipedia]]===
A template which is literally identical to using the "Wikipedia:" prefix in a link. It saves precisely '''0''' bytes while using a template inclusion and increasing server load.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 14:01, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Merge''' with [[Template:WP]] and then delete. Are all the transclusions truly due to {{tl|unsigned}}? We should be linking to internal help about signatures, not to Wikipedia. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:Which I have [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Unsigned&curid=13862&diff=1891188&oldid=1870284 just done]. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:Mostly. I've used my bot to subst the template in on all non-protected pages, given that it's completely redundant.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 15:38, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy C1''' - a template that merely uses a single wiki code command is "No content" in my books. --<small>Oh, and vote on [[UDWiki:Projects/Very_Funny...or_Not|Project Funny]], by the way.</small> --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:12, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' - as Spiderzed.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 20:25, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - You don't get to technicality off such a popular template. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:19, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#:[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Wikipedia|Popular?]] ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:54, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::The bot changed all of the edits so that's not exactly an accurate revelation of how people use it. [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Thegeneralbot This] is more realistic. People use this template because not everyone knows about the magic word, don't punish ill-informed users for being ill-informed? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:44, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#:::Why not redirect the template to an explanation of magic words? The magic word is so similar to the template that anyone who uses the template should be perfectly capbable of using the magic word.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 09:13, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#:::I was under the impression that the bot only subst'd {{tl|Wikipedia}} when found in {{tl|unsigned}} template calls. I may be wrong but still, I don't think the template is as popular as you're implying. And, yes I checked thegeneralbot's contribs. I so far haven't found any edits where {{tl|Wikipedia}} was subst'd other than inside {{tl|unsigned}}. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::::That's because the use in unsigned made up the bulk of {{tl|wikipedia}} uses. That said, nope, it didn't just remove the ones in unsigned, which explains why I can't find any of my old uses of it, despite the fact that I've used it frequently in the past. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#I support a '''merge''' with &#123;&#123;[[Template:WP|WP]]&#125;&#125;, but suggest retaining as a [[wikipedia:WP:SRD|soft redirect]], deleting only when we can get [[WP:]] implemented as an [[wikipedia:H:IW|interwiki]] shortlink. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 05:41, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:43, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - It's not actually the same as just the plain link, since the plain link requires additional code to look the same. Quick example: <code><nowiki>{{wikipedia|example}}</nowiki></code> yields {{WP|example}} while <code><nowiki>[[wikipedia:example]]</nowiki></code> yields [[wikipedia:example]]. Note the different outputs. I prefer the template since it saves some typing, and the code is cleaner. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 09:18, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#:You can use the [[wikipedia:Help:pipe trick|pipe trick]] to get the same appearance; although there is slightly more code, there is far less of a drain on server resources. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 13:12, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#::Pipes would work, sure, but that's why I mentioned less and cleaner code. Also, it doesn't produce "far less of a drain on server resources." When it comes to server load, the danger of templates is that if they are changed, every page they are included on needs to be re-cached. That's not an issue here since unsigned doesn't change. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#:::[{{fullurl:Template:Unsigned}}?action=history It's been changed twice recently]. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#::::"...frequently". Sorry, forgot to put that at the end of my last comment. ;) Anyway, two edits in three years (both of which had to be requested via A/PT) is nothing to be concerned with. To put things in perspective, in the same time period, your sig has changed 15x more frequently and is on more than 45x as many pages, yet none of us seem to object to it. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 10:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::Actually, ''I'' object. {{tongue}} I think we should get rid of templated sigs for precisely those reasons (added DB calls on every page load, plus cache invalidation of every page on which they are transcluded when they change), but while they are permitted by {{WIKILAW}}, I'm going to keep availing myself of the convenience. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 22:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::Basically, yeah. This is why there was the request to delete Nosubst. This template is far less harmful though and more intuitive to the partially wiki-literate. It's a tool and you shouldn't take away tools that don't actually harm anything just for the sake of simplicity. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:02, 23 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::Not sure how this template is more intuitive than the normal link; if they can find this template, they can find out how to use the link (which should be described in the help pages, anyway).--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 17:17, 24 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::Wikipedia:wikipedia: for one. The fact that templates are easier to understand to a layman than magic words for two. We assume that most users can pick up and learn templates fairly quickly and magic words/parsers rarely. I'm actually not a fan of the template but I don't see a reason to remove the option just so we don't have to change them manually. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:41, 25 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::Bah. If you ''really'' objected, your actions would speak for you and you wouldn't avail yourself of it at all. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:57, 23 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::So the Nosubst deletion nomination counts for naught? {{tongue}}<br/> I have a policy discussion in the works, but I don't know how long it will take me to get to. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 04:33, 23 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::So another policy will get passed by a group of individuals that give shit all about the wiki? Lovely. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::::::Whether it passes or not doesn't overly concern me. Which reminds me… {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 23:59, 24 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - u dont delete my contributions to the wiki without me having a say about it --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 20:37, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I prefer the template--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 20:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)


#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
5 delete votes and 4 keeps. Merged (via move) with {{tl|WP}}. Kept {{tl|Wikipedia}} as a soft redirect. Fixed remaining links. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:40, 6 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 20:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:No reason to have a soft redirect when a standard redirect preserves functionality and doesn't make it harder to reach the new template page(the entire purpose of soft redirects)--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:05, 6 June 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:04 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


===Group===
... this must be one of the most dumb moves since gen tried to pass an anti-goon policy with the goons active in the wiki. Creating a redirect in [[template:wikipedia]] to ]]template:wp]] just adds more server load to a template whose main reason for deletion was server load. Its just too dumb for me to understand it. The merge votes should've count as a kept in this case, ffs --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 12:31, 6 June 2011 (BST)
[[Roftwood Alliance]]
:You're right, since server load is the issue, we pretty much should have had this deleted lul -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:41, 6 June 2011 (BST)
::Yeah, pretty much. I kept as a soft redirect per Rev's suggestion but Karek reverted back to a typical redirect. If people want to keep it as a redirect or just keep the template rather than delete it then that's fine with me. That was never brought up during voting but whatever. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:::It's a soft redirect now actually. It was just waiting on verification that all usage was gone. Also, not really server intensive in any way. Even the claims of the editing of it were edits done by the people claiming they were a problem. Anyways, now it's set to sit for a month or three until we can be reasonably sure people have gotten the message.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:19, 7 June 2011 (BST)
::::I think we're both misinterpreting what a soft redirect is. They are just a short messages directing someone to an ''external'' site. I don't even think a soft (or even a "hard") redirect is warranted TBQH. It should just be deleted since that is how the voting concluded. If there is sufficient reason to keep it, put in a request at [[A/U]]. Otherwise, it comes off a lot like just a disagreement with the voting results and maneuvering things to turn this into a keep. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:::::I just set it up in a way to make it clear that [[Template:WP|WP]] was the current version and this page is no longer in use as a template. Terminology be damned I guess. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:43, 8 June 2011 (BST)
::::::That's all well and good, but it was ''voted'' for deletion??? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::Yeah no, when 2 of the 5 deletes are merges and the other 4 votes are keeps that reasoning doesn't really fly. Especially when you actually read Revenants vote. That being said it's still ''going to be deleted'', it's just going to be left as a soft redirect for a bit first because the template still exists. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:04, 9 June 2011 (BST)
::::::::My point is that it's funny when so many people vote but in the end it becomes a situational decision by one person pushing for what they want. I voted delete because I use the <nowiki>[[wikipedia]]</nowiki> code personally, but as a whole I'm indifferent. It's worth noting though that Merge got the ''least'' votes out of all the options, even if you aren't inclined to count them as implicit deletes (which you are) -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 09:25, 9 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::::Meh, the only reason it qualifies is that last Merge vote that puts it over and since the vote in question specifically qualifies itself as situational upon the soft redirect it's really just common sense. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
::::::::::I wasn't quite aware that we were intending on deleting it eventually and this was transitional? Is that actually the case? Cause if it is, it makes more sense and has made me look like a dil to boot. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 11:21, 9 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::::::We are and it is.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:27, 9 June 2011 (BST)
::::::::::::I remember reading that but somewhere along the line I forgot. I'm a bit of a mess -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:51, 11 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::::::::S'ok, apparently you're not [[User:Aichon|the only one]] who doesn't have time to read s recent comments make oh so clear. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)
What are you guys doing? Let me run through the process for handling a Delete and Merge result, since it's very simple, but has apparently been forgotten:
#Merge the two pages.
#Fix all links to point to the new page, except where they were specifically being used to refer to the old one as opposed to the new one (e.g. discussions like here)
#Fix all transclusions to point to the new page that it's being merged into
#Delete the page
That's all you guys had to do, but for some reason, you got stuck between #2 and #3. Why did no one check for and fix transclusions before replacing the template with text telling people not to use it? And why was that text put in at all, when your job was to follow the vote's results and ''delete'' the page? We don't need text telling people not to use a page that's been deleted, since people don't use pages that ''aren't there''. That's why you delete them. Why has this not been done? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:32, 10 June 2011 (BST)
:I did fix all incoming links and transclusions (although I think I must have missed the one transclusion in this vote). As for deleting it, that's what is currently under discussion. Pages ''have'' been kept as a redirect during a deletion before. I don't know that a redirect of this nature has been used before but I'm open to using them. I just want it made clear what is happening, since at first it seemed to me like maneuvering to turn a delete decision into a keep decision. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:1. Not a standard case. 2. If you can't be asked to read any of the intervening discussion that has happened don't bother to comment. You're just wasting everyone's time at this point. Third, since I know you won't bother to read through any of it because of your "right-ness"(a common problem with users of this wiki), [[Template:Wikipedia]] is a long existing template that was implemented 5 years ago. Above and beyond that it's a popular template on [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Template:Wikipedia wikipedia] [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Template:Wikipedia projects]. If you don't want to run the risk of users recreating it you do it [[Templte:Wikipedia|''this'']] way, which is also the only way it actually passes as a delete vote, having changed it essentially just saved the step of creating the soft redirect or redirect(since one is justified, the template [[Template:WP|still exists]]). Also, it's still getting deleted, now shoo. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)
::{{*}}"Can't be arsed".--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 18:32, 11 June 2011 (BST)
::I'll excuse your personal (and hurtful, coming from you) attacks on me as a courtesy. First off, I'm aware of its history and would prefer it stay around (see my vote above). Second, as I'm sure you agree, failing to fix any transclusions was an oversight in need of correction, and leaving them while altering the template is never part of proper procedure, so a mistake was definitely made here. Third, I think that you're not giving Rev enough credit, since he's a smart guy, is well-versed in the rules, and says what he means. If he had wanted it to be taken the way you say, he could have said Keep with his comment, or else he could have said Merge ''on the condition that'' it be done as he described. Instead, he said Merge, which he knows acts as a Delete, and he phrased it as a suggestion, instead of as a comment on which his vote was contingent. Fourth, see Crit 6. That's how you stop people from recreating the page on ''this'' wiki. Anyway, I'm not going to stick around to argue it further, so you'll get what you wanted from me. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:57, 11 June 2011 (BST)
:::Not personal, just frustrated. Sometimes even I tire of repeating myself and this would mke probably the fourth time this has been addressed. It's an unusual case and a close vote, it seems reasonable to try and do it in a way that has the least potential to cause issues(in this case phasing it out in steps). As for Crit 6, that's generally connected with vandalism cases historically. A situation that relies on it is less than ideal. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:44, 11 June 2011 (BST)


Low-content, inactive and group never took off. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 15:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
=== Dupilcated image ===
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/File:50x16t.PNG] Un-used duplicate of [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/File:50x16.PNG], [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/File:50x16t.PNG 1] could be deletead?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 16:03, 17 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Scheduled''' - but I'll check with Schwan before deleting. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Speedy''' - Two days short of a scheduled. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:50, 17 May 2011 (BST)


#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 15:34, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
A. Schwan confirmed [[User_talk:A.schwan#Orphaned_Images|on his talk page]] that the image was unneeded, so I deleted it as crit 7 by proxy. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}} 20:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' - crit 1 <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:05 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
'''Deleted''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


===Procrastination is a terrible thing===
===[[Template:Nosubst]]===
I really should be revising right now, but membrane potentials aren't managing to excite me today so I've done some digging about looking for more stuff to delete.  
Horrible hack that exists only to work around sensible software limitations. We should take the opportunity given by the new sig size limits to recognise this, delete this abomination, and have all users made to use proper signatures. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[.Aztec Corp.]] - abandoned group page
:Just to be clear... this isn't going to break existing sig inclusions, is it. Just people who (attempt to) use it from now on.<br />I have long hated templated sigs, but then I also hate having to scroll through huge swathes of sig code if it's subst'ed into discussions <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 11:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)</small>
*[[.Aztec Corp./Recruit]] - Recruitment page, pretty much a copy of the group page above
::Correct.<br/> And yeah, me too, but it's a bit “damned if you do, damned if you don't”, and templated sigs cause more problems than they solve, which is why they're prohibited by default by the MediaWiki software unless you deliberately circumvent that with a measure such as this template.{{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:53, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[A.Z.S.C and A.Z.M.C recruitment site]] - looks like a misplaced recruitment page that was never used and both groups seem to be abandoned
:::Or change a one-line setting in the software....--{{User:The General/sig}} 12:09, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*<s>[[Malton Giants]] - No idea what this is. Not touched since before Christmas</s> Active group.
::::Sadly I feel its too late. If it was setup from the beginning, I'd have no problem, but deleting it now is just going to break loads of links. Rev should set up UDWiki 2.0 --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:16, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[Mall Tour PK Call]] - Not been used in 3 years and nothing relevant on the page
:::::It '''was''' set up in the beginning, by Kevan, and then hacked around by users. And it shouldn't change any links that use it properly: the rest can be easily fixed. What it ''will'' do is necessitate users to change their sigs. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:27, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[A/BC]] - J3D fannying about
::::::'''No it wasn't'''. The mediawiki software didn't originally force substitution in signatures: It was added in an update and there wasn't originally a setting to turn it off, so we developed a workaround.--{{User:The General/sig}} 12:33, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*<s>[[2008 Wedding Crash]] - A sentence does not an event make.</s> Expansion underway.
::::::Whats the fix? --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[Indie Music Industry]] - Another group that never was
:::::::Mostly deleting it out of [[User:MrAushvitz|MrAushvitz]]'s [[Template talk:Nosubst|fucking sig]]. {{grr}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[The Malton Militia]] - As above.
::::::::Ah, thats why its used on so many of the old suggestion pages. Get on that, use your crazy robot. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:49, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[Fire Control Corps]] - One of the "listed on the stats page" groups that never got onto the wiki
#'''Kill''' with fire. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[Band of brothers]] - Another non-starter
#'''Keep''' - Templated sigs are allowed by wiki policy; If you don't like it then change the policy rather than  trying to delete the template that allows them.--{{User:The General/sig}} 11:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
*[[The Malton Kingpins]] - While I like the image, it's another 1 man group that never happened.
#:Mind to show me where a policy directly grants the use of templated sigs as a right? Can't find it in [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Signature Policy|the sig policy]], nor do I see any other applicable policy. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 11:57, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#::The section that says: What would be allowed - Anything that isn't? --[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 12:01, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Kill''' this is terrible, I assume, so down with it or something. --'''<span style="font-size:95%">[[User:Katthew|<span style="color: #229922">カシュー</span>]]</span>''', <span style="font-size:80%">[[User:Katthew/Zombie Improvements|<span style="color: #229922">ザ ゾンビ クィーン</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:50%; color: #229922">'''('''[[The Dead 2.0|<span style="color: #229922">ビープ ビープ</span>]]''')'''</span> [[Image:Katthewsigtag.gif]] <span style="font-size:115%; color: #229922">'''@'''</span> 12:17, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - This template is linked to [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Nosubst|lots of stuff]].  Who is going to fix all of the broken links if this gets deleted?--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 12:24, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#:'''Me''', if nobody else does, and '''before''' it gets deleted. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:34, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''keep''' as above--&nbsp;[[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|link=User:Sexualharrison|18px]] &nbsp; <small> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</small><small>12:31, 2 May 2011 (utc)</small>
#'''Keep''' - just because I think General has a better option of dealing with this- it would also allow more comfortable transition period for those of us who do used the damned templated sigs. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:47, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 12:59, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  13:08, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Kill''' -- Honestly ok with this. Can we get rid of the signature policy next? Maybe replace it with something that simply says your sig can't impersonate other users, break pages, and needs to show who you are and leave it at that? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:41, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Kill''' Having looked at it,  seems fair, as long as rev wipes out the linked list. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 13:52, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:Imthatguy/sig}} ''' 14:31, 2 May  2011 '''
#'''Keep''' It works fine. Has for years. Old folks coming back to the wiki will have to deal with some shit the first time they try to sign. Would be pretty off-putting I think. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] [[File:Etat.gif|link=http://on.cnn.com/lIVw45|Amurica. Fuck. Yeah]] <sub>22:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Delete''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:42, 3 May 2011 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' -obsolete --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 15:41, 3 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - The only way I'll be okay with a delete if there is a code length limit on signatures. So steal from WP, basically. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:56, 10 May 2011 (BST)
#:With the software update, signatures are now limited by the software to 255 characters. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 03:41, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::The Goon's signature (and probably others) still manage to be ridiculously big. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:33, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::They're subst'd in. If they were using {{tl|nosubst}} and signing using e.g. {{tl|Goonsig|<nowiki>SUBST:</nowiki>Nosubst{{!}}Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}}, they'd be breaking the template transclusion limit on every page they posted on in short order. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 04:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::That's not what I'm talking about; I'm talking about how long the code for their signatures are. It's very long. If templated signatures want to be deleted, it's better suited for policy discussion, provided a reasonable alternative is included (so no long signature codes, it makes me angry). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:44, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::I'm not sure you're understanding me, so I'll give you a demonstration… the invocation {{tl|Goonsig|Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}} gives {{Goonsig|Revenant}}, which is the same as what specifying {{tl|Goonsig|<nowiki>SUBST:</nowiki>Nosubst{{!}}Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}} '''as your signature''' results in. In contrast, using {{tl|Goonsig|<nowiki>SUBST:</nowiki>Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}} '''as your signature''' results in… <span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Revenant]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">&#124;</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">&#124;</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">&#124;</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">&#124;</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">&#124;</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">&#124;</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">&#124;</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">&#124;</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">&#124;</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">&#124;</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">&#124;</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">&#124;</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">&#124;</span>]]</span>
#::::::I think what AHLG is saying is that without {{tl|nosubst}}, ''all'' code heavy signatures will add heavy amounts of code to pages when signing. The inclusion sizes don't matter to too many people as long as they don't have to wade through umpteen lines of code when they want to contribute to dicussion. My biggest issue with this deletion request is that it is being passed off as sensible software limitations. I don't believe sensible is the right word. ''Minimal'' or ''default'' software limits is more descriptive. Its like saying that the [[:category:If Templates|"if" templates]] are a crappy hack job because the software has sensible limits on parser functions. The wiki software sucks. It's vanilla. So what if there exists a hack to make it suck less? It's rare that anything is broken because of templated sigs. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::::It's really not as rare as it would be without Nosubst. Not to mention that with Nosubst gone it would mean that actually useful templates won't be excluded from pages like A/VB and A/M. It actually opens up possibilities for us that we currently have to code around.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:50, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::When I say rare I mean extremely rare. The only instance of page breakage in recent history was A/VB and it was due mostly to the whole of A/VB/Bots being transcluded. And then it only became a problem when we came under heavy bot attacks. That problem was easily solved by no longer transcluding A/VB/Bots, which was largely unecessary to begin with. It could also be argued that it was the size of the regular non-sig templates causing it to break. If any other possibilities will arise by deleting {{tl|nosubst}}, I fail to see what they may be. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::::::It actually really can't because the sig templates were actually being called ''multiple'' times in the inclusion chain. While it's easy enough to noinclude them and thus limit the amount of data being called through them superficially, that also compromises the purpose of signing needlessly. We shouldn't have to adapt how pages work because some users want to use a feature actually disabled by the software itself. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::Yes, the sigs were called multiple time but so were the non-sig templates due to the fact that the whole of A/VB/B being transcluded. In the case of the templated sigs, it was a template call ({{tl|nosubst}}), inside a template call (the template sig which themselves sometimes called on other templates) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). Similarly, with the non-sig templates, there were template calls ({{tl|usr}}), inside a template call ({{tl|vndl}}) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). The points I'm trying to make are that a) we've taken steps to correct page breaking on A/VB and b) it really wasn't necessary to transclude A/VB/B in the first place. Whatever value that A/VB/B added to A/VB was superficial and it is actually a lot simpler to just include links to it from [[MediaWiki:recentchangestext]] and [[MediaWiki:blockipsuccesstext]] and be done with it. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>14:40, 12 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::::::Vapor: Not at all. There is a wiki software setting to enable unsubstituted template signatures. Kevan has it set to the default, which is to disable them. When I described this as a “hack workaround”, that was the literal truth. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::That's not entirely accurate. Kevan hasn't set it to anything: When the wiki was first set up the setting wasn't available and templated signatures were allowed; a software update disallowed them and the setting to change that was only introduced later. We are forced to use this sort of hack due to the difficulty in getting Kevan to change the software.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 09:09, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::Yeah, I'm not disputing that it is a hack, I just don't agree that it is a worthless hack. I really don't believe Kevan made a conscious decision to turn off unsubstituted signatures way back when. Just like I don't think he intentionally set the max characters for raw signatures to 255. He likely just ran the update without any customization. I think we can reasonably leave {{tl|nosubst}} in place and any sigs that happen to break pages can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, as it has been done in the past. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:54, 11 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::What I am saying is that when I hit edit there is a heck of a lot of code to wade through. [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions&action=edit&section=8 Here is a sample from A/BP]. Removing templated signatures encourages code use, which wouldn't be so bad if some of the signatures (irrespective of the manner in which they are placed) are really code heavy. But besides any of that, what we are really talking about is the issue that templated signatures breaking similar templates and other templates on pages. A/VB is a good example, as are talk pages. A simple solution may be to not use templated signatures on just these pages if such a problem arises, and it rarely does, do as what Vapor said just above. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:32, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::It's been a while since I checked but I'm pretty sure that template signatures trigger a few different DB searches every time they're included on a page. All changing this does is force the search to happen once when the user signs instead of every single time someone edits the page for every single time the template appears on it. On top of that signatures larger than 255 characters have to call a template in their code so that can actually be sorta policed easily enough. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::So, it is to say that after I sign at the end of this comment, the code is merely substed in instead of as a template? Meaning that the code length isn't an issue for whatever is added in the corresponding preferences section. It's still an issue though to how long the code is at the end result. The issue for me hasn't to do with me wanting to keep this more complex templated signature, I'm fine changing this I just find the heavy code sigs cumbersome when I go to edit. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::I'm saying that without {{tl|GoonSig}} the goon's sigs wouldn't be possible because it's a template call made in Preferences that's substituting the template. We can police that because the template has to exist for them to call, like your sig. I'm also saying that your sig makes the server do a lot more work then, say, mine. Something on the order of 3-5 times the work with one inclusion of your sig. More every time a user uses a template signature. Mine adds to this page's DB content and gets called as part of the Page's call then run through the wiki-markup and sent to the browser so it can act on the html, yours adds to the actual processing of the page ''before'' we see it because it has to be interpreted by the wiki markup and then search the DB for the page you're referencing in the signature which then also has to be run through the wiki markup each and every single time someone loads the page for each and every time someone signs on it with a template signature. In the best case scenario it's done once per signature per page and referenced from that, at worse it's done once for every time you sign. Hopefully that answers some of the question because I'm kinda confused about what you were trying to say.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:07, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::It should be noted, however, that to say it is "3-5 times the load" is somewhat misleading because the queries take somewhere in the range of 0.003 seconds.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 23:36, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::I'm talking about actual stress on the server. Also should mention that that's actually not necessarily the case, especially on larger pages about these parts and larger signatures for that matter. The number of queries can have an impact in speed, and a notable one at that. Here's an example [[Suggestions/RejectedDecember2005]] vs [[User talk:Karek]]. The first has no expanding templates due to [[Special:LongPages|file size]], the second takes longer to load. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::I might be missing your point, Karek, but those don't seem to be good examples of pages breaking/server strain due to templated sig calls. Both have giant walls of text which cause them to be so large. When that happens, templates stop working properly. I can't find even a single attempt to call on a templated sig in your first example nor is there any extraneous template usage (just {{tl|prejection}} it seems). In your second example, nothing seems broken despite lots of templated sigs and it didn't seem to load any longer than any other page; not for my anyway. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::::::::::::It was a comparison of text size vs number of calls and their effect on speed. Largely irrelevant now that I've archived my talk but [[User_talk:Karek/20110513132417|here]] is that archive. Should have the same visible effect. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::I am a also talking about server load, hence my comment that a database query takes very little time. Yes, more queries do have an impact on server load but it is not generally a major problem: In fact, a few large queries are a lot heavier on the server than lots of small ones. So, yeah, lots of massive template inclusions will hurt the server but so will lots of massive walls of text on a single page and most signature templates aren't that largem.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 08:45, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::::Unless we want to ask [[Kevan]] for some performance stats to settle this, can we stop waving our wiki-peens? {{tongue}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 08:54, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::::I would prefer to call it a "reasoned debate" {{Tongue}}.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 14:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::::::^This. Although we could probably move it to the talk page or {{tl|Nosubst}} talk page or something. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::::::Seconded, although keep the current discussion points here so for perspective voters. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>14:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Keep''' - after some serious pondering. I'd vote delete in a heartbeat if it had been that way all the time, but pulling it away now will cause a lot of issues for rarely active users. Adding substings to sigs occassionally, while not fun, is the lesser evil. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 17:02, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I'm with Vapor and Gnome on this one.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 23:42, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - What problem is this fixing? Transclusion limits on high-traffic pages? If so, just ban templated sigs on the pages in question. Otherwise, I'm with AHLG. I do NOT want to read "lol" followed by 14 lines of code before I can see the next comment, which is what this would cause to happen far too often. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:49, 15 May 2011 (BST)


I could go on, but my internet is being stupidly slow at the moment. I shall clean up more later. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
'''Kept'''. 12 Keep votes and 6 Delete votes. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:I've struck Malton Giants as it's appeared at the very bottom of the stats page, and also the 2008 Wedding Crash as there's now a coordinated attempt to expand it. =) -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 20:51, 26 January 2011 (UTC)  


#'''Delete''' - {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' all of them in a petty railing against cheese for his linking of group pages together in a single vote. 2008 wedding crash if linked could be turned into a redirect. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#:If wedding crash is expanding by the end of the 14 day period, then I'll vote keep on that.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 23:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' all, but '''Keep [[2008 Wedding Crash]]''' - it was a significant PKer event. Could probably expand it easily with information from the PKA and [[BBC/wedding]]. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 21:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#:It exists somewhere in a written up form. Perhaps the fortress pages. I can't remember. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#::Could only find something about [[The_Fortress/News_Archive_2#Operation_Summer_Lovin.27|a different wedding]] on the Fortress pages. Plus, it would be nicer to have the event in mainspace rather than in groupspace, even if there were a write-up. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 15:10, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' but '''keep''' the wedding crash page, hopefully it'll get some expansion -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 21:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - As Ross. Grouping them together makes people carelessly skim through, without giving thought to each of the individual nominations. This can put [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive/May-2010#Some_stubby_stuff|valid pages]] seriously at risk. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 23:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#:Yes, because [[Banana Tactics]] is a totally valid content page. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 01:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#::Been saved by the community twice, so... {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#:::Shittest page ever. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 02:25, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#Delete all but the Wedding Crash.  As DDR, hopefully, it'll be expanded by whomever remembered the wedding of Mel and Dan.  That wedding is just as historical to wedding crashing PKers as it was to the NMC! --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 23:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#:Keep Malton Giants as well.  They're apparently on the stats page. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 19:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
#::Struck, it wasn't there the other day when I checked. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 20:51, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
#:::I'm tempted to say delete Malton Giants now since they've apparently dropped from the stats page. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 17:07, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - if at any point in these two weeks someone actually expands the Wedding Crash, then keep that. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
#:I'll look into it on the week-end. The search function on the PKA is shitty, but I'm darn sure there was a thread devoted to it. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 04:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - I was hoping that [[Malton Giants]] was going to be [[Zombieball]] related at some point, but that, much like the event, might be a pipe dream. Like others, if something happens with the wedding page I'd vote keep. {{User:Vapor/sig}} 07:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - But I'd appreciate if we start voting on these things separately.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|12px]]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span> 14:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' the wedding one. The BBC has an article on it somewhere so it could be expanded. Kill the others. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 19:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
#:Also Giants as per Axe.-[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 19:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


'''Deleted''' all but Malton Giants and Wedding Crash.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
===[[Federal_Stafford_Loan_Program|Federal Stafford Loan Program]]===
====[[Clothes (Monroeville)]]====
Oh, I guess this is how pages are deleted? It was some sort of weird spam. -[[User:Susan Bakersfield|Susan Bakersfield]] 03:22, 14 May 2011 (BST)
Seems pretty redundant and could easily just be merged into the clothes page. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
:Got this one when clearing out the [[A/VB/B|bots]]. It's best to report them there (although it gets done here anyway). Thanks <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:55, 14 May 2011 (BST)</small>


#'''Merge''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
===[[Smart Revive Policy]]===
#Merge --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
The Smart Revive Policy was created in error and is effectively the [[No Random Revive Policy]]. It appears that [[User:Obsdark|Obsdark]] didn't read the [[No Random Revive Policy]], and just looked at the old title of the page. There is only a few pages that link to the [[Smart Revive Policy]] and those could be redirected to the [[No Random Revive Policy]]. I also updated the [[No Random Revive Policy]] to merge in any of the needed information from [[Smart Revive Policy]]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Merge''' with [[clothes]] - Contains valuable information that would probably be lost forever if deleted. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 01:31, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - this is a filibuster vote {{User:Nubis/sig}} 02:14, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Merge''' Its also incomplete, as one of the video clips needed a specific monroville only costume --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Speedy''' crit 1 though voting speedy seems kind of pointless due to the above "vote". ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:09, 27 April 2011</sub>
#'''Merge''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Delete''' - Technically crit 1, but seeing how Nubis is reading from the dictionary, it'll have to wait it out. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 13:50, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Merge''' with [[Clothes]]. {{User:Vapor/sig}}
#'''Delete''' Unneeded and inferior copy of an established tactic. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 14:24, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#FFS, merge the info, and [[A/SD]] it... be bold, and '''Speedy''' <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 09:59 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#'''Speedy''' - Criteria 1.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 14:41, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#:Also done. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''delete'' this is a busterfily vote -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 17:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''keep''' As a [[Help:Redirection|Redirect]]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:25, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - redirect <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:44, 3 May 2011 (BST)</small>
#'''Keep''' as the boxman --&nbsp;[[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|link=User:Sexualharrison| HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS! | 16px]] &nbsp; <small> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</small><small>06:31, 11 May 2011 (utc)</small>
#'''Keep''' - Redirect it--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 22:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)


====[[BUM]]====
5 to 5. '''Kept''' as a redirect. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
Could either be deleted or redirected to [[Borehamwood Urban Militia]] -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
===[[The living]]===
Not really much in the way of content here. I'd like to have the page deleted so that I can use the name (with a capitol L). {{User:Clint_Clintstone/sig}} 10:35 21 April 2011 (EST)


#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 00:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''delete''' - never got off the ground etc. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:46, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#Delete --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep''' - This is both history, a group that existed(and we don't delete disbanded groups just 'cause), and also a page stuffed full of content when [[The Dead|context]] is shown. We killed crit 12 for a reason. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:52, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep'''. Its well linked. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 11:04, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Vapor/sig}}
#:My arse. it has like 8 and you made half of them years ago and only because they mentioned the dead? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:07, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#WTF is this doing here? Redirect it already <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:01 5 February 2011 (BST)</span></small>
#::Sorry, its referred to as part of the did you know section of the wiki, I don't know why Clint doesn't just use [[The Living]] --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:28, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#:Done. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
#'''Keep'''. As Ross. You don't have to get rid of that page to create [[The Living]]. And we could also add a disambiguation notice on top of the page to refer to the older/newer group respectively. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 12:47, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#:This^. Especially since they're both unique pages and the stats page links by caps(like the whole wiki). --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:42, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Above.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>13:46 22 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
#'''Delete''' Just another of those "exists only on paper" kind of groups with no real content, the kind of which we deleted hundreds of. -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  13:59, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - this page doesn't stop you using the capital L space... and anyway, afaik, this one is just a reactionary page to [[The Dead]]... puppy tears, and all that, y'know {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 15:08, 22 April 2011 (BST)</small>
#:He'll find it difficult to do as that [[The Living]] is now in use. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:15, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' SHUT THE FUCK UP!. i loled.--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div>&nbsp;&nbsp;[[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]]&nbsp;</small><small>16:19, 22 April 2011</small>
#'''Delete''' - get out. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 17:50, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - this is a filibuster vote {{User:Nubis/sig}} 23:57, 23 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Sure, why not - [[User:DeRathi|Serious Post]] {{User:DeRathi/Sig}}  15:27, 24 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - We're already deleting the living from the game, why not have a reminder they once existed here? --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 15:44, 24 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Weak Keep''' - As Karek and Ross, but weaker. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 16:18, 24 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Karek and Ross. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Spiderzed.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 17:40, 26 April 2011 (BST)


===[[Wotan's Templar]]===
Kept with 12 Keeps and 4 Deletes. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
Deleted page workaround, me mis and yon are all in agreement. see [[A/VB]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:39, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
===[[Bookmarks]]===
I wanted to make a page under my username, but instead made this. I already remade the page under my user-name, [[User:ShadowScope/Bookmarks|here]], so I would like for you to delete this page (somebody else may want to use Bookmarks in the future, and I don't want to waste space).--[[User:ShadowScope|ShadowScope]]<sup>[[User:Kevan|'the true enemy']]</sup> 02:33, 1 May 2011 (BST)
:EDIT: Also requesting a Speedy Delete, if that is all possible.--[[User:ShadowScope|ShadowScope]]<sup>[[User:Kevan|'the true enemy']]</sup> 02:34, 1 May 2011 (BST)
::'''Scheduled''' – Speedy, Crit 7 by proxy. All gone. {{smile}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 03:56, 1 May 2011 (BST)


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The Republic of Digby

Content cleared by owner, might as well be a speedy --Bean 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)

  1. Speedy: Page was blanked by the only guy who maintained it, Author Edit Only implied --Bean 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)
  2. Scheduled - User has blanked the page and created a new group. Crit 7 by proxy.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:01, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Deleted as a crit 7 by proxy.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:05, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Lamportians

This page was already deleted. The only reason I haven't done this as a crit 6 is because the content doesn't match completely with the current version being more role-play than straight up recruiting(like the previous iteration). This is a term only used by a singular very small group. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)

  • Obviously Delete - And I really want to do this as a crit 6 but am erring on the side of caution. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)
  • delete - had potential but it's just kinda shit. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 06:02, 25 May 2011 (BST)
  • Speedy - Content is similar enough, IMHO: Expanding it doesn't mean its's not crit 6. This should be a group page, it's not a "generic term".--The General T Sys U! P! F! 09:14, 25 May 2011 (BST)
  • Delete - But I don't think it's enough for a speedy. They've expanded on it quite a bit.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 13:42, 25 May 2011 (BST)

Deleted - This be unanimous.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 22:41, 8 June 2011 (BST)

Template:Wikipedia

A template which is literally identical to using the "Wikipedia:" prefix in a link. It saves precisely 0 bytes while using a template inclusion and increasing server load.--The General T U! P! F! 14:01, 20 May 2011 (BST)

  1. Merge with Template:WP and then delete. Are all the transclusions truly due to {{unsigned}}? We should be linking to internal help about signatures, not to Wikipedia. ~Vsig.png 15:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
    Which I have just done. ~Vsig.png 15:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
    Mostly. I've used my bot to subst the template in on all non-protected pages, given that it's completely redundant.--The General T U! P! F! 15:38, 20 May 2011 (BST)
  2. Speedy C1 - a template that merely uses a single wiki code command is "No content" in my books. --Oh, and vote on Project Funny, by the way. -- Spiderzed 15:12, 20 May 2011 (BST)
  3. Speedy - as Spiderzed.--The General T U! P! F! 20:25, 20 May 2011 (BST)
  4. Keep - You don't get to technicality off such a popular template. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:19, 20 May 2011 (BST)
    Popular? ~Vsig.png 21:54, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
    The bot changed all of the edits so that's not exactly an accurate revelation of how people use it. This is more realistic. People use this template because not everyone knows about the magic word, don't punish ill-informed users for being ill-informed? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:44, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    Why not redirect the template to an explanation of magic words? The magic word is so similar to the template that anyone who uses the template should be perfectly capbable of using the magic word.--The General T U! P! F! 09:13, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    I was under the impression that the bot only subst'd {{Wikipedia}} when found in {{unsigned}} template calls. I may be wrong but still, I don't think the template is as popular as you're implying. And, yes I checked thegeneralbot's contribs. I so far haven't found any edits where {{Wikipedia}} was subst'd other than inside {{unsigned}}. ~Vsig.png 16:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
    That's because the use in unsigned made up the bulk of {{wikipedia}} uses. That said, nope, it didn't just remove the ones in unsigned, which explains why I can't find any of my old uses of it, despite the fact that I've used it frequently in the past. Aichon 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
  5. I support a merge with {{WP}}, but suggest retaining as a soft redirect, deleting only when we can get WP: implemented as an interwiki shortlink. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 05:41, 21 May 2011 (BST)
  6. Delete -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:43, 21 May 2011 (BST)
  7. Keep - It's not actually the same as just the plain link, since the plain link requires additional code to look the same. Quick example: {{wikipedia|example}} yields example while [[wikipedia:example]] yields wikipedia:example. Note the different outputs. I prefer the template since it saves some typing, and the code is cleaner. Aichon 09:18, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    You can use the pipe trick to get the same appearance; although there is slightly more code, there is far less of a drain on server resources. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 13:12, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    Pipes would work, sure, but that's why I mentioned less and cleaner code. Also, it doesn't produce "far less of a drain on server resources." When it comes to server load, the danger of templates is that if they are changed, every page they are included on needs to be re-cached. That's not an issue here since unsigned doesn't change. Aichon 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    It's been changed twice recently. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 07:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    "...frequently". Sorry, forgot to put that at the end of my last comment. ;) Anyway, two edits in three years (both of which had to be requested via A/PT) is nothing to be concerned with. To put things in perspective, in the same time period, your sig has changed 15x more frequently and is on more than 45x as many pages, yet none of us seem to object to it. :P Aichon 10:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    Actually, I object. Tongue :P I think we should get rid of templated sigs for precisely those reasons (added DB calls on every page load, plus cache invalidation of every page on which they are transcluded when they change), but while they are permitted by WIKI LAW, I'm going to keep availing myself of the convenience. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 22:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    Basically, yeah. This is why there was the request to delete Nosubst. This template is far less harmful though and more intuitive to the partially wiki-literate. It's a tool and you shouldn't take away tools that don't actually harm anything just for the sake of simplicity. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:02, 23 May 2011 (BST)
    Not sure how this template is more intuitive than the normal link; if they can find this template, they can find out how to use the link (which should be described in the help pages, anyway).--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:17, 24 May 2011 (BST)
    Wikipedia:wikipedia: for one. The fact that templates are easier to understand to a layman than magic words for two. We assume that most users can pick up and learn templates fairly quickly and magic words/parsers rarely. I'm actually not a fan of the template but I don't see a reason to remove the option just so we don't have to change them manually. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:41, 25 May 2011 (BST)
    Bah. If you really objected, your actions would speak for you and you wouldn't avail yourself of it at all. :P Aichon 03:57, 23 May 2011 (BST)
    So the Nosubst deletion nomination counts for naught? Tongue :P
    I have a policy discussion in the works, but I don't know how long it will take me to get to. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:33, 23 May 2011 (BST)
    So another policy will get passed by a group of individuals that give shit all about the wiki? Lovely. ~Vsig.png 17:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
    Whether it passes or not doesn't overly concern me. Which reminds me… ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 23:59, 24 May 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep - u dont delete my contributions to the wiki without me having a say about it --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 20:37, 22 May 2011 (BST)
  9. Keep - I prefer the template--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 20:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)

5 delete votes and 4 keeps. Merged (via move) with {{WP}}. Kept {{Wikipedia}} as a soft redirect. Fixed remaining links. ~Vsig.png 05:40, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

No reason to have a soft redirect when a standard redirect preserves functionality and doesn't make it harder to reach the new template page(the entire purpose of soft redirects)--Karekmaps 2.0?! 07:05, 6 June 2011 (BST)

... this must be one of the most dumb moves since gen tried to pass an anti-goon policy with the goons active in the wiki. Creating a redirect in template:wikipedia to ]]template:wp]] just adds more server load to a template whose main reason for deletion was server load. Its just too dumb for me to understand it. The merge votes should've count as a kept in this case, ffs --hagnat 12:31, 6 June 2011 (BST)

You're right, since server load is the issue, we pretty much should have had this deleted lul -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:41, 6 June 2011 (BST)
Yeah, pretty much. I kept as a soft redirect per Rev's suggestion but Karek reverted back to a typical redirect. If people want to keep it as a redirect or just keep the template rather than delete it then that's fine with me. That was never brought up during voting but whatever. ~Vsig.png 15:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
It's a soft redirect now actually. It was just waiting on verification that all usage was gone. Also, not really server intensive in any way. Even the claims of the editing of it were edits done by the people claiming they were a problem. Anyways, now it's set to sit for a month or three until we can be reasonably sure people have gotten the message.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:19, 7 June 2011 (BST)
I think we're both misinterpreting what a soft redirect is. They are just a short messages directing someone to an external site. I don't even think a soft (or even a "hard") redirect is warranted TBQH. It should just be deleted since that is how the voting concluded. If there is sufficient reason to keep it, put in a request at A/U. Otherwise, it comes off a lot like just a disagreement with the voting results and maneuvering things to turn this into a keep. ~Vsig.png 05:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I just set it up in a way to make it clear that WP was the current version and this page is no longer in use as a template. Terminology be damned I guess. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 08:43, 8 June 2011 (BST)
That's all well and good, but it was voted for deletion??? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
Yeah no, when 2 of the 5 deletes are merges and the other 4 votes are keeps that reasoning doesn't really fly. Especially when you actually read Revenants vote. That being said it's still going to be deleted, it's just going to be left as a soft redirect for a bit first because the template still exists. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:04, 9 June 2011 (BST)
My point is that it's funny when so many people vote but in the end it becomes a situational decision by one person pushing for what they want. I voted delete because I use the [[wikipedia]] code personally, but as a whole I'm indifferent. It's worth noting though that Merge got the least votes out of all the options, even if you aren't inclined to count them as implicit deletes (which you are) -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 09:25, 9 June 2011 (BST)
Meh, the only reason it qualifies is that last Merge vote that puts it over and since the vote in question specifically qualifies itself as situational upon the soft redirect it's really just common sense. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
I wasn't quite aware that we were intending on deleting it eventually and this was transitional? Is that actually the case? Cause if it is, it makes more sense and has made me look like a dil to boot. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 11:21, 9 June 2011 (BST)
We are and it is.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 11:27, 9 June 2011 (BST)
I remember reading that but somewhere along the line I forgot. I'm a bit of a mess -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:51, 11 June 2011 (BST)
S'ok, apparently you're not the only one who doesn't have time to read s recent comments make oh so clear. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)

What are you guys doing? Let me run through the process for handling a Delete and Merge result, since it's very simple, but has apparently been forgotten:

  1. Merge the two pages.
  2. Fix all links to point to the new page, except where they were specifically being used to refer to the old one as opposed to the new one (e.g. discussions like here)
  3. Fix all transclusions to point to the new page that it's being merged into
  4. Delete the page

That's all you guys had to do, but for some reason, you got stuck between #2 and #3. Why did no one check for and fix transclusions before replacing the template with text telling people not to use it? And why was that text put in at all, when your job was to follow the vote's results and delete the page? We don't need text telling people not to use a page that's been deleted, since people don't use pages that aren't there. That's why you delete them. Why has this not been done? Aichon 21:32, 10 June 2011 (BST)

I did fix all incoming links and transclusions (although I think I must have missed the one transclusion in this vote). As for deleting it, that's what is currently under discussion. Pages have been kept as a redirect during a deletion before. I don't know that a redirect of this nature has been used before but I'm open to using them. I just want it made clear what is happening, since at first it seemed to me like maneuvering to turn a delete decision into a keep decision. ~Vsig.png 21:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
1. Not a standard case. 2. If you can't be asked to read any of the intervening discussion that has happened don't bother to comment. You're just wasting everyone's time at this point. Third, since I know you won't bother to read through any of it because of your "right-ness"(a common problem with users of this wiki), Template:Wikipedia is a long existing template that was implemented 5 years ago. Above and beyond that it's a popular template on wikipedia projects. If you don't want to run the risk of users recreating it you do it this way, which is also the only way it actually passes as a delete vote, having changed it essentially just saved the step of creating the soft redirect or redirect(since one is justified, the template still exists). Also, it's still getting deleted, now shoo. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)
*"Can't be arsed".--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 18:32, 11 June 2011 (BST)
I'll excuse your personal (and hurtful, coming from you) attacks on me as a courtesy. First off, I'm aware of its history and would prefer it stay around (see my vote above). Second, as I'm sure you agree, failing to fix any transclusions was an oversight in need of correction, and leaving them while altering the template is never part of proper procedure, so a mistake was definitely made here. Third, I think that you're not giving Rev enough credit, since he's a smart guy, is well-versed in the rules, and says what he means. If he had wanted it to be taken the way you say, he could have said Keep with his comment, or else he could have said Merge on the condition that it be done as he described. Instead, he said Merge, which he knows acts as a Delete, and he phrased it as a suggestion, instead of as a comment on which his vote was contingent. Fourth, see Crit 6. That's how you stop people from recreating the page on this wiki. Anyway, I'm not going to stick around to argue it further, so you'll get what you wanted from me. Aichon 18:57, 11 June 2011 (BST)
Not personal, just frustrated. Sometimes even I tire of repeating myself and this would mke probably the fourth time this has been addressed. It's an unusual case and a close vote, it seems reasonable to try and do it in a way that has the least potential to cause issues(in this case phasing it out in steps). As for Crit 6, that's generally connected with vandalism cases historically. A situation that relies on it is less than ideal. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:44, 11 June 2011 (BST)

Dupilcated image

[1] Un-used duplicate of [2], 1 could be deletead?--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:03, 17 May 2011 (BST)

  1. Scheduled - but I'll check with Schwan before deleting. ~Vsig.png 16:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
  2. Speedy - Two days short of a scheduled. -- Cheese 18:50, 17 May 2011 (BST)

A. Schwan confirmed on his talk page that the image was unneeded, so I deleted it as crit 7 by proxy. ~Vsig.png 21:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Nosubst

Horrible hack that exists only to work around sensible software limitations. We should take the opportunity given by the new sig size limits to recognise this, delete this abomination, and have all users made to use proper signatures. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Just to be clear... this isn't going to break existing sig inclusions, is it. Just people who (attempt to) use it from now on.
I have long hated templated sigs, but then I also hate having to scroll through huge swathes of sig code if it's subst'ed into discussions -- boxy 11:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Correct.
And yeah, me too, but it's a bit “damned if you do, damned if you don't”, and templated sigs cause more problems than they solve, which is why they're prohibited by default by the MediaWiki software unless you deliberately circumvent that with a measure such as this template.ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 11:53, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Or change a one-line setting in the software....--The General T Sys U! P! F! 12:09, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Sadly I feel its too late. If it was setup from the beginning, I'd have no problem, but deleting it now is just going to break loads of links. Rev should set up UDWiki 2.0 --Rosslessness 12:16, 2 May 2011 (BST)
It was set up in the beginning, by Kevan, and then hacked around by users. And it shouldn't change any links that use it properly: the rest can be easily fixed. What it will do is necessitate users to change their sigs. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 12:27, 2 May 2011 (BST)
No it wasn't. The mediawiki software didn't originally force substitution in signatures: It was added in an update and there wasn't originally a setting to turn it off, so we developed a workaround.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 12:33, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Whats the fix? --Rosslessness 12:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Mostly deleting it out of MrAushvitz's fucking sig. Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 12:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Ah, thats why its used on so many of the old suggestion pages. Get on that, use your crazy robot. --Rosslessness 12:49, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  1. Kill with fire. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  2. Keep - Templated sigs are allowed by wiki policy; If you don't like it then change the policy rather than trying to delete the template that allows them.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
    Mind to show me where a policy directly grants the use of templated sigs as a right? Can't find it in the sig policy, nor do I see any other applicable policy. -- Spiderzed 11:57, 2 May 2011 (BST)
    The section that says: What would be allowed - Anything that isn't? --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 12:01, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  3. Kill this is terrible, I assume, so down with it or something. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) Katthewsigtag.gif @ 12:17, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  4. Keep - This template is linked to lots of stuff. Who is going to fix all of the broken links if this gets deleted?--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 12:24, 2 May 2011 (BST)
    Me, if nobody else does, and before it gets deleted. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 12:34, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  5. keep as above-- Boobs.sh.siggie.gif   bitch  12:31, 2 May 2011 (utc)
  6. Keep - just because I think General has a better option of dealing with this- it would also allow more comfortable transition period for those of us who do used the damned templated sigs. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:47, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  7. Keep --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 12:59, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:08, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  9. Kill -- Honestly ok with this. Can we get rid of the signature policy next? Maybe replace it with something that simply says your sig can't impersonate other users, break pages, and needs to show who you are and leave it at that? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 13:41, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  10. Kill Having looked at it, seems fair, as long as rev wipes out the linked list. --Rosslessness 13:52, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  11. Keep --Weed.jpgArthur DentWeed.jpg BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 14:31, 2 May 2011
  12. Keep It works fine. Has for years. Old folks coming back to the wiki will have to deal with some shit the first time they try to sign. Would be pretty off-putting I think. ~Vsig.png Amurica. Fuck. Yeah 22:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
  13. Delete -- boxy 07:42, 3 May 2011 (BST)
  14. Delete -obsolete --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:41, 3 May 2011 (BST)
  15. Keep - The only way I'll be okay with a delete if there is a code length limit on signatures. So steal from WP, basically. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:56, 10 May 2011 (BST)
    With the software update, signatures are now limited by the software to 255 characters. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 03:41, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    The Goon's signature (and probably others) still manage to be ridiculously big. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:33, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    They're subst'd in. If they were using {{nosubst}} and signing using e.g. {{SUBST:Nosubst|Goonsig|Revenant}}, they'd be breaking the template transclusion limit on every page they posted on in short order. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    That's not what I'm talking about; I'm talking about how long the code for their signatures are. It's very long. If templated signatures want to be deleted, it's better suited for policy discussion, provided a reasonable alternative is included (so no long signature codes, it makes me angry). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:44, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    I'm not sure you're understanding me, so I'll give you a demonstration… the invocation {{Goonsig|Revenant}} gives You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||, which is the same as what specifying {{SUBST:Nosubst|Goonsig|Revenant}} as your signature results in. In contrast, using {{SUBST:Goonsig|Revenant}} as your signature results in… You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||
    I think what AHLG is saying is that without {{nosubst}}, all code heavy signatures will add heavy amounts of code to pages when signing. The inclusion sizes don't matter to too many people as long as they don't have to wade through umpteen lines of code when they want to contribute to dicussion. My biggest issue with this deletion request is that it is being passed off as sensible software limitations. I don't believe sensible is the right word. Minimal or default software limits is more descriptive. Its like saying that the "if" templates are a crappy hack job because the software has sensible limits on parser functions. The wiki software sucks. It's vanilla. So what if there exists a hack to make it suck less? It's rare that anything is broken because of templated sigs. ~Vsig.png 05:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    It's really not as rare as it would be without Nosubst. Not to mention that with Nosubst gone it would mean that actually useful templates won't be excluded from pages like A/VB and A/M. It actually opens up possibilities for us that we currently have to code around.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:50, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    When I say rare I mean extremely rare. The only instance of page breakage in recent history was A/VB and it was due mostly to the whole of A/VB/Bots being transcluded. And then it only became a problem when we came under heavy bot attacks. That problem was easily solved by no longer transcluding A/VB/Bots, which was largely unecessary to begin with. It could also be argued that it was the size of the regular non-sig templates causing it to break. If any other possibilities will arise by deleting {{nosubst}}, I fail to see what they may be. ~Vsig.png 06:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    It actually really can't because the sig templates were actually being called multiple times in the inclusion chain. While it's easy enough to noinclude them and thus limit the amount of data being called through them superficially, that also compromises the purpose of signing needlessly. We shouldn't have to adapt how pages work because some users want to use a feature actually disabled by the software itself. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    Yes, the sigs were called multiple time but so were the non-sig templates due to the fact that the whole of A/VB/B being transcluded. In the case of the templated sigs, it was a template call ({{nosubst}}), inside a template call (the template sig which themselves sometimes called on other templates) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). Similarly, with the non-sig templates, there were template calls ({{usr}}), inside a template call ({{vndl}}) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). The points I'm trying to make are that a) we've taken steps to correct page breaking on A/VB and b) it really wasn't necessary to transclude A/VB/B in the first place. Whatever value that A/VB/B added to A/VB was superficial and it is actually a lot simpler to just include links to it from MediaWiki:recentchangestext and MediaWiki:blockipsuccesstext and be done with it. ~Vsig.png 14:40, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
    Vapor: Not at all. There is a wiki software setting to enable unsubstituted template signatures. Kevan has it set to the default, which is to disable them. When I described this as a “hack workaround”, that was the literal truth. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 07:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    That's not entirely accurate. Kevan hasn't set it to anything: When the wiki was first set up the setting wasn't available and templated signatures were allowed; a software update disallowed them and the setting to change that was only introduced later. We are forced to use this sort of hack due to the difficulty in getting Kevan to change the software.--The General T U! P! F! 09:09, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    Yeah, I'm not disputing that it is a hack, I just don't agree that it is a worthless hack. I really don't believe Kevan made a conscious decision to turn off unsubstituted signatures way back when. Just like I don't think he intentionally set the max characters for raw signatures to 255. He likely just ran the update without any customization. I think we can reasonably leave {{nosubst}} in place and any sigs that happen to break pages can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, as it has been done in the past. ~Vsig.png 15:54, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    What I am saying is that when I hit edit there is a heck of a lot of code to wade through. Here is a sample from A/BP. Removing templated signatures encourages code use, which wouldn't be so bad if some of the signatures (irrespective of the manner in which they are placed) are really code heavy. But besides any of that, what we are really talking about is the issue that templated signatures breaking similar templates and other templates on pages. A/VB is a good example, as are talk pages. A simple solution may be to not use templated signatures on just these pages if such a problem arises, and it rarely does, do as what Vapor said just above. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:32, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    It's been a while since I checked but I'm pretty sure that template signatures trigger a few different DB searches every time they're included on a page. All changing this does is force the search to happen once when the user signs instead of every single time someone edits the page for every single time the template appears on it. On top of that signatures larger than 255 characters have to call a template in their code so that can actually be sorta policed easily enough. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    So, it is to say that after I sign at the end of this comment, the code is merely substed in instead of as a template? Meaning that the code length isn't an issue for whatever is added in the corresponding preferences section. It's still an issue though to how long the code is at the end result. The issue for me hasn't to do with me wanting to keep this more complex templated signature, I'm fine changing this I just find the heavy code sigs cumbersome when I go to edit. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    I'm saying that without {{GoonSig}} the goon's sigs wouldn't be possible because it's a template call made in Preferences that's substituting the template. We can police that because the template has to exist for them to call, like your sig. I'm also saying that your sig makes the server do a lot more work then, say, mine. Something on the order of 3-5 times the work with one inclusion of your sig. More every time a user uses a template signature. Mine adds to this page's DB content and gets called as part of the Page's call then run through the wiki-markup and sent to the browser so it can act on the html, yours adds to the actual processing of the page before we see it because it has to be interpreted by the wiki markup and then search the DB for the page you're referencing in the signature which then also has to be run through the wiki markup each and every single time someone loads the page for each and every time someone signs on it with a template signature. In the best case scenario it's done once per signature per page and referenced from that, at worse it's done once for every time you sign. Hopefully that answers some of the question because I'm kinda confused about what you were trying to say.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:07, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    It should be noted, however, that to say it is "3-5 times the load" is somewhat misleading because the queries take somewhere in the range of 0.003 seconds.--The General T U! P! F! 23:36, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    I'm talking about actual stress on the server. Also should mention that that's actually not necessarily the case, especially on larger pages about these parts and larger signatures for that matter. The number of queries can have an impact in speed, and a notable one at that. Here's an example Suggestions/RejectedDecember2005 vs User talk:Karek. The first has no expanding templates due to file size, the second takes longer to load. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    I might be missing your point, Karek, but those don't seem to be good examples of pages breaking/server strain due to templated sig calls. Both have giant walls of text which cause them to be so large. When that happens, templates stop working properly. I can't find even a single attempt to call on a templated sig in your first example nor is there any extraneous template usage (just {{prejection}} it seems). In your second example, nothing seems broken despite lots of templated sigs and it didn't seem to load any longer than any other page; not for my anyway. ~Vsig.png 06:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
    It was a comparison of text size vs number of calls and their effect on speed. Largely irrelevant now that I've archived my talk but here is that archive. Should have the same visible effect. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    I am a also talking about server load, hence my comment that a database query takes very little time. Yes, more queries do have an impact on server load but it is not generally a major problem: In fact, a few large queries are a lot heavier on the server than lots of small ones. So, yeah, lots of massive template inclusions will hurt the server but so will lots of massive walls of text on a single page and most signature templates aren't that largem.--The General T U! P! F! 08:45, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    Unless we want to ask Kevan for some performance stats to settle this, can we stop waving our wiki-peens? Tongue :P ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 08:54, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    I would prefer to call it a "reasoned debate" Tongue :P.--The General T U! P! F! 14:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    ^This. Although we could probably move it to the talk page or {{Nosubst}} talk page or something. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    Seconded, although keep the current discussion points here so for perspective voters. ~Vsig.png 14:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
  16. Keep - after some serious pondering. I'd vote delete in a heartbeat if it had been that way all the time, but pulling it away now will cause a lot of issues for rarely active users. Adding substings to sigs occassionally, while not fun, is the lesser evil. -- Spiderzed 17:02, 11 May 2011 (BST)
  17. Keep - I'm with Vapor and Gnome on this one.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 23:42, 13 May 2011 (BST)
  18. Keep - What problem is this fixing? Transclusion limits on high-traffic pages? If so, just ban templated sigs on the pages in question. Otherwise, I'm with AHLG. I do NOT want to read "lol" followed by 14 lines of code before I can see the next comment, which is what this would cause to happen far too often. Aichon 08:49, 15 May 2011 (BST)

Kept. 12 Keep votes and 6 Delete votes. ~Vsig.png 05:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


Federal Stafford Loan Program

Oh, I guess this is how pages are deleted? It was some sort of weird spam. -Susan Bakersfield 03:22, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Got this one when clearing out the bots. It's best to report them there (although it gets done here anyway). Thanks -- boxy 07:55, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Smart Revive Policy

The Smart Revive Policy was created in error and is effectively the No Random Revive Policy. It appears that Obsdark didn't read the No Random Revive Policy, and just looked at the old title of the page. There is only a few pages that link to the Smart Revive Policy and those could be redirected to the No Random Revive Policy. I also updated the No Random Revive Policy to merge in any of the needed information from Smart Revive Policy. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 02:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)

  1. Keep - this is a filibuster vote – Nubis NWO 02:14, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Speedy crit 1 though voting speedy seems kind of pointless due to the above "vote". ~Vsig.png 03:09, 27 April 2011
  3. Delete - Technically crit 1, but seeing how Nubis is reading from the dictionary, it'll have to wait it out. -- Cheese 13:50, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  4. Delete Unneeded and inferior copy of an established tactic. -- Spiderzed 14:24, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  5. Speedy - Criteria 1.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 14:41, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  6. 'delete this is a busterfily vote -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 17:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  7. keep As a Redirect. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:25, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep - redirect -- boxy 07:44, 3 May 2011 (BST)
  9. Keep as the boxman -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch  06:31, 11 May 2011 (utc)
  10. Keep - Redirect it--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)

5 to 5. Kept as a redirect. ~Vsig.png 06:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

The living

Not really much in the way of content here. I'd like to have the page deleted so that I can use the name (with a capitol L). *Clint Clintstone* Talk 10:35 21 April 2011 (EST)

  1. delete - never got off the ground etc. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:46, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Keep - This is both history, a group that existed(and we don't delete disbanded groups just 'cause), and also a page stuffed full of content when context is shown. We killed crit 12 for a reason. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:52, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  3. Keep. Its well linked. --Rosslessness 11:04, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    My arse. it has like 8 and you made half of them years ago and only because they mentioned the dead? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:07, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    Sorry, its referred to as part of the did you know section of the wiki, I don't know why Clint doesn't just use The Living --Rosslessness 12:28, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  4. Keep. As Ross. You don't have to get rid of that page to create The Living. And we could also add a disambiguation notice on top of the page to refer to the older/newer group respectively. -- Spiderzed 12:47, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    This^. Especially since they're both unique pages and the stats page links by caps(like the whole wiki). --Karekmaps 2.0?! 13:42, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  5. Keep - As Above.-- | T | BALLS! | 13:46 22 April 2011(UTC)
  6. Delete Just another of those "exists only on paper" kind of groups with no real content, the kind of which we deleted hundreds of. -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:59, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  7. Delete - this page doesn't stop you using the capital L space... and anyway, afaik, this one is just a reactionary page to The Dead... puppy tears, and all that, y'know Tongue :P -- boxy 15:08, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    He'll find it difficult to do as that The Living is now in use. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep -- Asheets 16:15, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  9. Keep SHUT THE FUCK UP!. i loled.--  bitch 16:19, 22 April 2011
  10. Delete - get out. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:50, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  11. Keep - this is a filibuster vote – Nubis NWO 23:57, 23 April 2011 (BST)
  12. Keep - Sure, why not - Serious Post Please do not silly. You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| DealWithIt.gif 15:27, 24 April 2011 (BST)
  13. Keep - We're already deleting the living from the game, why not have a reminder they once existed here? --Laughing Man 15:44, 24 April 2011 (BST)
  14. Weak Keep - As Karek and Ross, but weaker. Linkthewindow  Talk  16:18, 24 April 2011 (BST)
  15. Keep - As Karek and Ross. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
  16. Keep - As Spiderzed.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:40, 26 April 2011 (BST)

Kept with 12 Keeps and 4 Deletes. ~Vsig.png 06:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Bookmarks

I wanted to make a page under my username, but instead made this. I already remade the page under my user-name, here, so I would like for you to delete this page (somebody else may want to use Bookmarks in the future, and I don't want to waste space).--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 02:33, 1 May 2011 (BST)

EDIT: Also requesting a Speedy Delete, if that is all possible.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 02:34, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Scheduled – Speedy, Crit 7 by proxy. All gone. Happy ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 03:56, 1 May 2011 (BST)

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