Suggestion:20080207 Cigars

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20080207 Cigars

Zach016 21:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion type
New Item, Flavor

Suggestion scope
Survivors

Suggestion description
This suggestion is heavily based on the susgestion in peer reviewed http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/PR_Equipment_New#Cigarettes. I believe that the same arguement against the "think of the children" applies here as well.

• 5% encumberance
• Found 2% in mansions
• Come in a cigar box of four (thats the 5%), each cigar smoked takes 1% encumberance away from the box until you are left with an empty box with 1% encumberance. This box cannot be refilled.
• Takes 2HP of health away per cigar smoked, and players will have -2% accuracy for the next 2AP afterwards
• Killing yourself by smoking a cigar would cause 3AP to be added on to your stand up cost
• Other players will be informed "player begins smoking a cigar" - x time
• Can offer a cigar to another player, although that player must accept the next time they reload their page, or log in.

Note: Disscusion from talk:suggestions is located on the disscussion page and it explains the high cost of smoking a cigar. Obviously its just for flavor.

Voting Section

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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Author Keep- Everyone needs to celebrate a victory with boose and a cigar once in awhile--Zach016 21:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep - Nice for RP Purposes. -- Cheeseman ^W!RandomTalk 21:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
3. Keep For RPing purposes, yes. ~A`Blue`Jelly^TME*V*I*L*_? 03:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Kill Votes

1. Change - So that they can be found in towers at 1%, and you fall out in the street when you die, but no xtra AP cost. BoboTalkClown 21:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Kill change it so you don't lose the health. Then maybe. I still don't think it's needed though.--Seventythree^Talk 22:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Its not to fill any hole, its strickly a flavor thing that you can do, you lose health as a deterent to avoid everyone using five of these and spamming up the page. If you can't see someone else do it though, then the point behind the flavor is lost and it truly would be utterly useless for any sense.--Zach016 23:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Then why not have it so that if you try and smoke more than 3 cigars in a 24 hour period you get a message along the lines of You light up your cigar, take a breath and have a cougthing fit. Maybe you should cut back a bit--Seventythree^Talk 20:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

3. Kill - Has no real value to the game, other than to add a new roleplaying aspect. While I'm usually for that type of thing, practically speaking, not many people would bother using these, seeing as they do nothing but hurt you and take up encumberance. Then again, it's not like smoking is good for you in the real world to begin with. --Private Mark 01:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
4. Kill - Cigars are nasty. --_└^Frozen_┘^┌_Flame^┐ 03:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
5. Kill - I don't like it. Plus, seems to let you kill yourself inside a building. --Pdeq^Talk* 04:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
6. Kill - Cigars are cool but i think it would work better as clothing. Maybe they could only be found in one or two malls and mansions like fancy hats. -Death7 11:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
7. Kill - As BoboTalkClown. UCFSD 12:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
8. Kill - I also think that it would be better as a clothing item. --Z. slay3r •  Talk  15:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
9. Kill - If I can role-play smoking a "sweet-smelling herb" in my length of pipe, I can roleplay smoking or giving away cigars. Maybe zergers can automatically give them away when they create a new alt? HA!--Actingupagain 16:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
10. Kill - Pdeq brings up an excellent point. If you had it as a clothing item for the head slot I would say yes.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  16:59, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Now there is one Clothes/Suggestions#Pipes.2C_Cigars_and_Cigarettes.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  19:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

1. Kill - I prefer to be slaughtered by zombies in a smoke-free environment. --Ms.Panes 17:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Kill - I prefer this suggestion. It's pointless to give it any actual gameplay value. How many people have you seen dropping dead of cigars the moment they smoked their 25th one? Also, we don't have the capacity to give items to other players. By having that in the suggestion, it implements a completely new and separate suggestion, which has ramifications that make this suggestion very broken. After all, I could load someone up with cigars against their will. --Akule ^{School's in session.} 20:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
3. Kill - Mostly as Akule. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 20:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
4. Kill - I get that it's a flavor item, but I just don't see the point. --Diano 20:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - I just don't see the point...even for RP reasons. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS CRF pr0n} 21:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Re - Its a celebratory cigar, just something to do with your group after you win a big battle etc., and can help define characters.--Zach016 22:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   I'd like the idea more if it was a piece of clothing. Like have it say the character has a cigar in their mouth. That would be cooler than just smoking it. It also helps against the "anti-smoking" morals. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS CRF pr0n} 22:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Then it would be the never ending cigar..., Personnely I myself would rather the option to pass one to friends as well, as a way to congraduate them for some reason or another.Any replies to this must head to the disscussion page.--Zach016 22:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC) One re per person. Sorry guys. -- Cheeseman ^W!RandomTalk 22:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

2. Spam - completely pointless. --Funt Solo ^QT 21:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
3. Spam - In before 9000 medics offering them to people so they can then heal them to gain XP for diagnosis, etc. ChrisForelle 21:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
4. Spam - We're not a anti-smoking propaganda machine, keep your beliefs about real life things out of suggesions.--Karek^maps?! 21:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Re Not trying to be an anti-smoking propaganda machine, just trying to slide around the "Think of the Children" arguement that is sure to come up about this. I have no problem eliminating some of the negative effects (obvivusly some will have to stay to reduce spam). Would -2HP or -1HP and BoboTalkClown's suggested change please you? EDIT: or -15% chance to acomplish anything other then moving for xAP used on one of these pruposes, to avoid them being used for xp purposes? EDIT 2: Proposed changes on discussion if you wish to give imput, or anyone else for that matter--Zach016 22:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Simple way to slide around that without making it all propaganday, Alcohol in UD heals you.--Karek^maps?! 22:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Simple problem, you can't see people drink--Zach016 22:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC) 2nd Re struck. --Funt Solo ^QT 09:16, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

5. Spam-As above.Studoku 21:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
6. Spam - The dumb is strong in this one. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 06:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
7. Pointless. I like this better and does the same thing (what the author wants anyway).--Pesatyel 06:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
8. Spam - Cigarettes was a crap suggestion... this is a dupe of crap, x2. More pointless stuff for survivors to search for. Want to smoke in UD, use the speak option and your imagination -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:32 8 February 2008 (BST)
9. Spam - Seems to me like a backdoor attempt to give parachuters a new way to die indoors and zergers a new way to generate XP (smoke and heal). - Headshot Hal 13:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
10. I am on a voting spree, but to make this vote valid, I'm in agreement with the above voters. --Axe Hack Talk 15:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

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