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== [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2009 05|May 2009]] ==
== [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2009 05|May 2009]] ==
===[[User:Iamlegend]]===
{{vndl|Iamlegend}}{{Verdict}}
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User%3ASister_Rita&diff=1471362&oldid=1466946 Stuff]. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 20:49, 3 June 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Iscariot]]===
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At this point [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#User:Suicidalangel]] and [[#User:Suicidalangel]] can pretty much be guaranteed to qualify as harassment, even if you ignore the aside comments outside of these areas. Iscariot knows enough to know neither one is the case and he made them simply for the sake of disrupting the wiki; Bad Faith. Enjoy. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:25, 2 June 2009 (BST)
So. Whats up fellow sysops team?
First things first. This isn't spur of the moment-based-upon-me-getting-A/VBd-and-A/Md so much, but rather the culmination of many months of seeing this shit go on.
Iscariot is a blight upon our community.
Any good he does or has done is outweighed by far by the bad he contributes to our fair (well, somewhat fair) community. Just about every post is degrading towards the sysops team, and many more of his posts are degrading towards newbies and veteran users too. He causes trouble and disrupts normal wiki process, and is unwilling to fix problems he sees in the wiki infrastructure simply because he doesn't have to and it will give him a chance to cause trouble with said problem until it is fixed.
Simply look through his contributions. I literally closed my eyes and scrolled down the list with my scroll nub on my mouse picking out 20 random edits. You know how many of them didn't have to do with harassing the sysops team? 3. Do you know how many of those three didn't harass another user in any way? 1. That edit was on his user page, changing the colours of something.
One single edit. On his user page. 19 edits that were harrassive (this needs to be a word). Why do we let this continue?
When Iscariot first came to the wiki, his behavior was pretty decent, and I actually liked a lot of his contributions from his early days. But soon after he came here, he developed this severe paranoia complex, coupled with a hate mission against the sysops team. Since then, his edits have mostly been shit. That's all you can say really.
[[User:Nubis/001|This page]] contains quite bit of evidence of his bullshit, but honestly, just look through his contributions. There is no use keeping him around if this is the way things are going to be.
I move that we take a vote to remove Iscariot for 3 or more months, or a perma-ban. His behavior and actions more than justify this. If he doesn't want to act even semi-civil (hell, that Zombie Lord guy that every one is complaining about? Look how he acts when he's not insulting Pesatyel. Rather good and decent. Whats izzy's problem?), then why should he be allowed to stay?
I don't care so much about the harassment against me specifically, I've dealt with bigger trolls elsewhere, but it's more than just me.
3 or higher. That seems like the only course of action he's going to leave us. Most of the sysops team has agreed that Iscariot is a problem in one way or another, in one place or another. Some don't think that he has done explicit enough vandalism to punish him, fine. But what we all need to realize is that we don't have a civility policy. And by the guidelines '''"System operators are also given the authority to make decisions regarding actions for which there is no governing policy in place. For example, should a particular action for which there is no policy be disputed, system operators may exercise their best judgment to allow or deny it"''' we have the power to make this decision. There is no policy, and until then, we have to make a choice on a case by case basis. All of the sysop team needs to come out here, think about it and make a decision based on whats the best for the community, not whats the best for our images. Not whats best to end the drama quickly. If this turns in to a massive shit storm, whatever. It'll happen eventually, we should fix the problem now. Iscariot needs to be removed. He needs to learn a lesson. He's not untouchable, he's not the voice of the community, he's not a martyr for a good cause. He's a problem, and he can be taken care of. The entire community needs to see that just because their isn't a civility policy, doesn't mean we aren't going to step in if it's required. Something should have been done ages ago, so we need to do something now.--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 15:16, 2 June 2009 (BST)
'''Ban''' He has been given way too many chances. He has not been hounded by the sysop team in any way yet he still attacks them on many (often pointless matters) and he by his own admission contributes nothing. He clearly seems unhappy here and there is no reason he should remain. I submit everything documented on [[User:Nubis/001 |here]] which should be more than enough to show a history of abuse.
If the sysop team can not remove the biggest blight in the community then A/VB might as well be deleted. Pissant little page edits that are reported as vandalism are nothing compared to a career hostile troll. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 01:44, 3 June 2009 (BST)
'''Against''' - A user shouldn't be forced out of the UDWiki against his will, unless through the vandal escalation system. Iscariot ''is'' no doubt a pest to the community, he is a parasite that does nothing except irritate the sysops where he can, when not just editing his own userpages. But that is exactly what Iscariot is- nothing.
I have always refused to believe that a normal user cannot make it by on the wiki without being bullied by him. In my recent experiences, I have gotten by with him on a non-aggressive level by simply ignoring him when possible- and engaging with him on a professional level, when he bites. He accepts it, and moves on. Of course, there will always be users like Honestmistake and SirArgo who justify his antagonism and fuel him further, but that is exactly what we are doing now.
'''Every''' user deserves the right to reform, and we all know 3 months isn't enough (nor would it make him reform, it would only bring him back more bitter than usual) but a perma is out of the question, for someone who isn't permabannable through VandalData. See [[UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#User:Suicidalangel|here]] where we don't even respond to his idiotic rants, and we vote Not Misconduct/Vandalism on almost every piece of trash he throws at us (and usually the legit cases to, or so he would say). And how long could he go for? If we hate a user, we have the responsibility as ''members of the community'', not sysops, to ignore him when possible and not fuel more drama. It is not to wait until we are sick of conforming and ban him. It's our responsibility and promise to the community.
He has minimal contributions and minimal influence on the wiki - let's keep it that way, not make him a ''real'' martyr.
I, however, am aware at one point the Sysops would have tried the technique of ignoring him in the past... As such, I'm not sure if the sysops can expect anything from me at this point, except to be the new sysop who is uncultured with the op's past with said user. But regardless of any justification I may try to use, my position is simple: unless I have a '''very''' large problem with a user, I will never vote to remove them from the community under these circumstances. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 02:36, 3 June 2009 (BST)
:Thank you for your input. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 03:32, 3 June 2009 (BST)
'''Vandalism''' 1 week ban and voting for a perma-ban starting. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:45, 3 June 2009 (BST)
:What in god's name? Couldn't you have at leased waited for the sysops (and Iscariot) to have a chance to offer some discussion on this page before forcing sysops into the vote? Was a few days' wait just too much for you? We have time on our side, but you still dived into banning Iscariot so he could be denied the chance of defending this all-important case (regardless of the shit he will say given the chance). I am ruling '''Vandalism''' on this case, but I am unbanning Iscariot and subsequently considering this case open until the other sysops get their chance to offer input into this case. Regardless of the ruling and your rights as a ruling Sysop, If you ban Iscariot again, I will send you to A/M for pre-emptively banning a user solely to prohibit them from defending their own perma-ban case. There is no other reason why you should be rushing for the end of this VB case so hastily. Please, Nubis, I am not doing this because of my stance on the vote, I merely beg you to wait for some more input and discussion before we throw ourselves into the act of voting. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:05, 3 June 2009 (BST)
::I agree, this is being far too rushed. I'm not decided about the permaban myself, but the whole thing is ridiculous. Iscariot has not commented on this case a single time as of yet, and is now being denied the chance to defend himself like any other user. Iscariot, during his psychobabble, often talks of "Not being given a fair chance". You'll only be proving him right if he isn't given a chance to speak. As I said, I'm not sure on the permaban, I don't really like Iscariot's wiki actions, but give the man a chance to defend himself like anyone else.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 15:31, 3 June 2009 (BST)
'''Not vandalism''' - if I messed with anyone's sig template, let alone Iscariot's, I'd be expecting a vandalism/misconduct case, even though I would be fairly confident that they wouldn't be successful <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 15:25 3 June 2009 (BST)</small>
:Thanks for your input -- [[User:Boxy|Boxy]] 15:25, 3 June 2009 (BST)
'''VANDALISM''' (Sysops Only)
'''VANDALISM'''
1.--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?
</span>]]</font> 15:16, 2 June 2009 (BST)
2.{{User:Nubis/sig}}
3.{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:05, 3 June 2009 (BST)
'''NOT VANDALISM'''
#<small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 15:25 3 June 2009 (BST)</small>
''See Misconduct''
'''PERMA-BAN VOTE''' (Sysops only)
'''FOR'''
#--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:45, 3 June 2009 (BST)
#--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 14:46, 3 June 2009 (BST)
'''AGAINST'''
#--{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 14:49, 3 June 2009 (BST)
#Permban votes come after the month ban, not at the one week stage <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 15:25 3 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#As much as I want Iscariot gone, we follow process and a perma-ban vote is called after a month ban.--{{User:The General/sig}} 16:36, 3 June 2009 (BST)
#I very much dislike Iscariot and think the wiki would be better off without the drama he causes, however if we want to get rid of him we do it the right way, or not at all. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:37, 3 June 2009 (BST)
# Banning people we don't like? No thank you. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:43, 3 June 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Beelzebub]]===
{{vndl|Beelzebub}}{{Verdict|Vandalism|Perma}}
Vandal alt of Foxtrot et al.--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 00:50, 2 June 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Diyaseb]]===
{{vndl|Diyaseb}}{{verdict|Spambit|Permaban}}
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki_talk:Job_Queue&curid=92564&diff=1464771&oldid=1421895 Spambit] removed. =) -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 11:02, 1 June 2009 (BST)
:Damn, edit conflicted. Anyway, a quick skim of the checkuser logs shows that he isn't related to the ones below (the Omega guys,) and his method of attack is different (ads, instead of spam, so he's more of a ''ad''bot,) but we could always be looking at a proxy.
:Now, where's Axdiao gone? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 11:05, 1 June 2009 (BST)
::He said he'd call back. He broke my heart. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 12:06, 1 June 2009 (BST)


===[[User:Suicidalangel]]===
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I've already banned the ips and account creation from it. He's proxying it up. Also, no need to upload images over the vandal ones. It's just easier if you leave them.--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 21:40, 27 May 2009 (BST)
I've already banned the ips and account creation from it. He's proxying it up. Also, no need to upload images over the vandal ones. It's just easier if you leave them.--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 21:40, 27 May 2009 (BST)
:Oh, OK. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 21:41, 27 May 2009 (BST)
:Oh, OK. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 21:41, 27 May 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Agacosta]]===
{{vndl|Agacosta}}{{verdict|Spambit|Terminated}}
[[User talk:Agacosta|Spambit/bot/bat]]. --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 16:16, 27 May 2009 (BST)
:He has been '''Terminated''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 17:34, 27 May 2009 (BST)


===[[User:Foxtrot]]===
===[[User:Foxtrot]]===
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:::::Hey! I can quit anytime I want! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 08:53, 9 May 2009 (BST)
:::::Hey! I can quit anytime I want! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 08:53, 9 May 2009 (BST)
::::::lol@u--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 12:21, 9 May 2009 (BST)
::::::lol@u--<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 12:21, 9 May 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Gamegarro]]===
{{vndl|Gamegarro}}
{{Verdict|Spambit|Permaban}}
Spam<s>bit</s>bot. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Gamegarro --{{User:Janus Abernathy/Sig}} 00:09, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Cheese got him. '''Permaban'''. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 08:09, 4 May 2009 (BST)
:Internet crashed halfway through clearing up as well. =/ -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:11, 4 May 2009 (BST)


===[[User:Thescaryman]]===
===[[User:Thescaryman]]===

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May 2009

User:Suicidalangel

Suicidalangel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Not Vandalism
Action taken None Required

Editing a user's signature without reason and intentionally going against the established procedure as prescribed by policy. This case concerns only the edit to my sig page and not the subsequent contact.

The policy in question is very clear. My signature does not break any of the dictated disallowed criteria, and therefore does not break the signature policy. There is nothing destructive in my signature that required immediate action, SA's action is therefore instant vandalism. Nubis, Conn and Cheese will be through shortly to rule not vandalism shortly and save SA's ass as they have below, but every reasonable user knows that if they committed the same act it'd be vandalism. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 16:24, 31 May 2009 (BST)

lrn2bereadingplzn00b. Kthx. -- Cheese 16:33, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Not vandalism - the signature ("I") was deliberately intended to go against the spirit of our sig policy, which is basically to ensure that signatures make it easy to identify the poster, and arn't page breaking/malicious. Just because it is done in a way that can be wiki-lawyered to not break the word of the policy, doesn't mean it isn't something done in bad faith. It's entirely reasonable to revert something like this, and warn that a vandalism case may be brought if it's repeated -- boxy talk • teh rulz 02:56 1 June 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - While I am considering the facts on the misconduct case, I don't believe this case to be vandalism because SA was simply modifying what he, and I also, deem to be a bad-faith signature edit. The signature was not constructive in identifying the poster in any way, and was most probably made for the purpose of confusing members of the community. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:19, 1 June 2009 (BST)


Not Vandalism because Iscariot is right.</sarcasm> Bad faith and you know it. and SA giving you a soft warning is well within his authority. If you want a real one I'm sure somebody wouldn't mind putting it up for consideration here. And by the way...the community consensus is: One should be able to ID who made a post by looking at the signature. Once again I urge a ban on all "custom" sigs (but know that will never happen) Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 00:18, 2 June 2009 (BST)

User:GSwarthout

GSwarthout (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict {{{1}}}
Action taken {{{2}}}

Just a guess, but his edits to Bowring Blackwatch, namely putting members of the leadership on the KOS list, I'm guessing he shouldn't be editing that. Third contribution is NPOV on a community page. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 06:59, 29 May 2009 (BST)

I tried something a little unorthodox and searched all profiles mentioned (plus this user) through the Profile DB database. All UD profiles being labeled as PKers do in fact belong to Bowring Blackwatch, whilst the UD character called GSwarthout is with Extinction. Because of this flimsy background check, I've only reverted the edits, so until I get a confirmation from the last main contributor on the Blackwatch page, I won't be ruling yet. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:14, 29 May 2009 (BST)
Any other s'op can jump in and rule though. I just have work now, is all. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:15, 29 May 2009 (BST)

Based off of the evidence brought and searched for, I'm ruling vandalism until notification from group. Sure, assume good faith and all, but this seems more like a petty wiki assault by one of the groups enemy.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:59, 30 May 2009 (BST)

User:An Odd Red Cup

An Odd Red Cup (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Not Vandalism
Action taken None Required


He's editing another groups page, again -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:43 28 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - To be honest, I think all this guy needs now is someone to tell him exactly what he is doing wrong. He's just trying to voice his opinion and doesn't understand that the talk page is specifically used for that. It's nothing that couldn't have been said on the Black Delta talk page, which I assume is where he would have gone if he knew the rules of group page ownership, etc. Similarly, I've given him a bit of direction onto his talk page, so I'm willing to see if anything changes. I welcome any s'ops who think otherwise to pipe up though. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:23, 28 May 2009 (BST)

User:Suicidalangel

Suicidalangel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Warned

Repeated striking of an justified vote, the talk page and history demonstrates the history of this. The voting rules and basic good faith says you should justify your vote. Normal users have been escalated numerous times in the past for breaching the voting rules, let's see if it really is one rule for sysops and one for everyone else shall we?

Also, someone may want to do a check on the IP for User:Robertderks so that any alt can be linked on Vandal Data should they commit a vandalism offence in the future, I find it hard to believe a new user would come to this wiki and cycle the most contentious suggestion currently in the system perfectly on the first attempt. It'll be an alt of a current user, but we'll see if they've used a proxy or not. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:29, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Huh. Why am I not surprised that Iscariot files the vandalism case after it's been cycled, but not when he originally says he will. Meh. But this Robertderks guy? Not me. If it's another regular user I'm wondering why they didn't just do it with their main, it's not like they'd have been escalated for it.
Also, it's repeated unstriking of an unjustified vote if you're using the diff as evidence. Learn basic fucking English, amirite? Hurry up and rule, the suggestions talk page shows my arguments as well as everyone elses. Also, if this is ruled vandalism, I'm starting a jihad against all these shittily justified votes, as they're worse than votes that lack a justification altogether.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:39, 28 May 2009 (BST)
You unstruck it after the deadline, votes should not be altered after that. Otherwise I could have removed my suggestion from voting, but Boxy ruled I couldn't in a vandalism case. The voting rules template is clear, unjustified votes are invalid and may be struck by any user. You are aware of the process to change this and still have not chosen to begin to alter these rules, this is your demonstration of bad faith, demanding different treatment for yourself compared to that of every other user in history. As for when I posted this case, I was not aware there was a statute of limitations on bad faith? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 02:48, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Actually on my screen when I look at the suggestion I see this: Image:Suggtime.JPG
And this shows when I unstruck it at about 15:00.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:04, 28 May 2009 (BST)
If you care to check the difference I show above, you unstruck the vote at 19:01 on 27/05/09, the deadline was 18:45 on 27/05/09. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 03:10, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Image:Suggtime2.JPG. It shows 15:01 for me.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:15, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Last time I checked, such things in the NewSug template went off server time. Server time is based on the real world where culture, history and UD come from. Now as both of our images say 18:45, it's fair to say that 18:45 was the time in GMT that the suggestion was posted. Now of the two of us, who has identical server and local time? Me or you? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 03:31, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Actually I'm pretty sure neither of you have local time identical to server time, since server time is GMT and doesn't do daylight saving time (the timestamps do, though). But anyway, the easiest solution is to completely disregard the timestamp on the page and look at the damn history where the two edits are in the same timezone regardless of your preferences. And what do you know, SA's edit was made over one hour after voting should've ended. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 08:06, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Wandalism - the bad faith comes in at the leaving the stricken vote for 10 days (after an revert war) and then unstriking it just as voting is about to end (actually already had), and the page protected -- boxy talk • teh rulz 06:54 28 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism My belief on the necessity of validating ones votes is on record but that is an issue entirely separate. The edit did not change the outcome nor would it have been a valid change anyway since the voting had ended. No Harm, No Foul Not Vandalism for the edit in question. Now if the self appointed lord and master of suggestions wants to make a different case on a different ground, I might consider it. Otherwise its just an edit war... Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 07:08, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Oh, and the IP for User:Robertderks comes back as a unique IP (insofar as it has never been used by another user) and is in a range of IPs provided by an internet service. (and by the way folks that's how you reveal checkuser information without violating privacy)Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 07:18, 28 May 2009 (BST)
How can one rule not vandalism on a case just because the action didn't have any repercussions regarding the suggestion at hand? This goes beyond the mere outcome of the suggestion; it is about discussing a breach of guidelines, and a foul attempt at sneaking the edit through the system at (or possibly after) the end of the voting period. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:38, 28 May 2009 (BST)
Because I beleive that vandalism MUST break both "faith" and "function" to be vandalism. And I also beleive not following guidelines is not an intrinsic act of bad faith. Finally complaining about "sneaking" an edit that absolutely no impact on the final outcome seems as petty and trite as bringing up someone on vandalism charges for changing a period to a question mark on a locked page. Against the guidelines, yes, necessary to bring vandalism or misconduct? hell no. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 16:24, 28 May 2009 (BST)

I will lay claim to editing after the voting period, but not purposefully. I looked at the suggestion page itself for the times as you can tell by my screens, and it misled me. I hadn't thought to even check the history, so on that grounds, me trying to unstrike my vote, which would have been completely valid if not for time issues, is now invalid and will promptly be re-struck.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:36, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - As Boxy. Waiting until the end of the period to get the 'last word' before protecting it yourself crossed the line, and the fact you accidentally did it after the closing period is a fitting result of the risk you took by doing so. Especially for something that would never have happened if you had chosen to avoid Iscariot's games in the first place. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:01, 29 May 2009 (BST)

Yes, because everyone should be on the wiki 24/7 and there should be no gaps in when they post. Using the time difference as a justification is retarded. ANd please, let's give Iscariot everything he wants because he has proven that he is a clear and reasonable contributor. --– Nubis NWO 15:39, 29 May 2009 (BST)
SA, like a couple of other users, is on nearly 24/7. And I don't care about Iscariot's involvement, any more than I am dissatisfied with SA persistence against him in this case. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:35, 29 May 2009 (BST)
It's not that I was looking for a fight. If you'll look through some previous suggestions, I've left votes unjustified before. Iscariot just decided that day would be fun to be a hair splitter. Though I still accept my punishment, when decided.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:27, 29 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism Assuming good faith. --– Nubis NWO 15:36, 29 May 2009 (BST)


Closure please. Do I get a warning or not?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:28, 30 May 2009 (BST)

its a 2-2 split DDR and Boxy for vandalism, Nubis and myself for not. soon as a 5th sysop rules Im sure you'll get it. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 21:50, 30 May 2009 (BST)
That was more of a call to the less drama-associated ops. Seriously guys, just rule. No one will kill you if you do, nor will I be mad. Please rule soon? I hate waiting on my own cases...:/ --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:51, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism SA made edits to the wiki every day during the 10 day period between the beginning of this dispute and the time the suggestion ended. This smacks of final wordishness. Plus he's admitted he edited the voting after it had closed. I would encourage SA to now start his jihad against all these shittily justified votes, as they're worse than votes that lack a justification altogether. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:08, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - As Ross, DDR and Boxy. It sucks but we follow the rules. Even if they are a bit crap. -- Cheese 16:20, 31 May 2009 (BST)

User:Gummy Bear

Gummy_Bear (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Perma

Spam attack, am entirely sure it's Bada Bing/Foxtrot back again.

I've countered his 321agemo picture, by replacing it.--Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:40, 27 May 2009 (BST)

This guy seems to have a bit much free time. =/ Round 4? -- Cheese 21:47, 27 May 2009 (BST)
Coming soon...--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 22:29, 27 May 2009 (BST)
Gummy bear:The Return of teh SPAM!--Orange Talk 22:34, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Just to confirm, Perma... SA got him. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:11, 28 May 2009 (BST)

User:Bada Bing

Bada Bing (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Perma

Check his contribs. Massive vandal spree. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:19, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Permabanned, almost definitely a Foxtrot alt, probably a proxy. Pages deleted, diffs reverted. Good work Team Angel! :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:25, 27 May 2009 (BST)

You might want to jump on his IP, like, right now. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:31, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Especially considering he's probably back under the new pseudonym of User:Gummy Bear --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:33, 27 May 2009 (BST)

I've already banned the ips and account creation from it. He's proxying it up. Also, no need to upload images over the vandal ones. It's just easier if you leave them.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:40, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Oh, OK. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:41, 27 May 2009 (BST)

User:Foxtrot

Foxtrot (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Permabanned

Spamming. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:37, 25 May 2009 (BST)

A Helpful Little Gnome Is A Fag and I have all the time in the world, bitch, both created by him. --Pestolence(talk) 21:44, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Massive vandalism and spamming spree by looking at his contributions. He is still doing this as I type, just hand him a perma already.--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 21:48, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Ofcourse, he is claiming the use of proxies now.--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 21:49, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Not to mention his vandalism to this page. [[1]] [[2]] [[3]]. If his other edits weren't enough to get him warned/banned, these surely put him over the top. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:51, 25 May 2009 (BST)
The entire recentchanges page is full of it now. Just give him a permanent perma ban. --Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 21:52, 25 May 2009 (BST)

OK, he seems to do it as fast as we can clean it up, so perhaps just ban him now and clean up the mess later? --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 22:04, 25 May 2009 (BST)

I can't, sorry no sysops. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:04, 25 May 2009 (BST)
We only wait for a sysops, or until he stops.--Thadeous Oakley, Europeans, don't forget to VOTE! 22:05, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Well, I just edited the vandal template. I think him getting perma-banned is a sure thing now. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 22:16, 25 May 2009 (BST)

Spambit banished. Thanks for cleaning this all up. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:15, 25 May 2009 (BST)

Not a problem. Check the Speedy Del. que for a list of all the pages he made. Me and MG have been updating it. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 22:17, 25 May 2009 (BST)
Already done :D Linkthewindow  Talk  22:19, 25 May 2009 (BST)

The XMan

The XMan (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Warned

Edited the SARG page in bad faith.

And, yes, this is months old, and mustn't have been spotted at the time. Shame on you, RC lurkers :P. Linkthewindow  Talk  04:10, 17 May 2009 (BST)

Warned -- boxy talk • teh rulz 07:45 17 May 2009 (BST)

User:An Odd Red Cup

An Odd Red Cup (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Not Vandalism
Action taken None Required

Created this. Connected with the case two below this. --Pestolence(talk) 01:58, 16 May 2009 (BST)

It actually looks like he made his own group to legitimately force the same message as his last vandalism edit... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:33, 16 May 2009 (BST)
Shameless troll material, but not vandalism. It's more a thing for arbies. Linkthewindow  Talk  03:49, 16 May 2009 (BST)
One thing that needs to be changed is the header of the page. The user needs to specify clearly that the group isn't actually Black Delta. It's a guideline somewhere in this place. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:03, 16 May 2009 (BST)

User:Happykook

Happykook (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken 24 hour ban

Impersonation. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 07:41, 14 May 2009 (BST)

24 Hour Ban. -- Cheese 07:52, 14 May 2009 (BST)

User:An Odd Red Cup

An Odd Red Cup (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Warned

Vandalism --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:07, 13 May 2009 (BST)

BLACK DELTA GROUP PAGE

Somone keeps fucking with our group page, this is jhorror and i lost my fucking password (Jock Horror) and now somone is fucking with our page and we dont know who it is.... --Jhorror 19:07, 13 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - Warned. -- Cheese 19:28, 13 May 2009 (BST)

Turkmenbashi

Turkmenbashi (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Not Vandalism
Action taken None Required

Removing most groups from the Dulston listing. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:44, 13 May 2009 (BST)

A job for arbies, if it continues. Not vandalism -- boxy talk • teh rulz 03:42 14 May 2009 (BST)

User:Dante Sterling

Dante Sterling (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Not Vandalism
Action taken None Required

Editing another user's page. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:31, 13 May 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism - Simple newbie mistake. Again, I ask you to talk to the user before bringing stuff like that here. I also notice that you haven't bothered to revert the "vandalism". Either do it properly or not at all. Thank you. -- Cheese 12:09, 13 May 2009 (BST)

User:Omega314

Omega314 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Ban circumvention
Action taken Permban

It would appear that someone is trying to circumvent their wiki ban. Could it be User:Omega123? Lets see. Call me paranoid but when all his edits are to User:Omega123 is seems a good bet. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:56, 9 May 2009 (BST)

Permban - IPs match -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:21 9 May 2009 (BST)

User:Omega123

Omega123 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Permabanned

Seems to be involved with the incident below. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 22:07, 7 May 2009 (BST)

Checkuser doesn't show them up as alts, but still permabanned under the three-edit rule. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:10, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:Dragoneternal

Dragoneternal (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Permabanned

Constantly spamming both User:Sister Rita and M.E.R.C.Y. with inane rubbish and text blanking. Nothing of any use. I aked him to stop yesterbay. No helpful contributions. Perma anyone? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:07, 7 May 2009 (BST)

And is probably using User:Omega123 as an alternative account. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:41, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Wow, he went on a spree. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and maybe more that I missed. I think it's hammer time. --Pestolence(talk) 21:06, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Good work pest. Keep this up and you could be a sysop. Talking of which, anyone? Permaban request? Hello? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:15, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Banhammered. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:59, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:Imthatguy

Imthatguy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Warned

For these edits to another user's subpage. --Pestolence(talk) 02:59, 6 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - warned. He's on his last warning now. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:47, 6 May 2009 (BST)
{{Drama}}sums up my stand-point --Imthatguy 19:04, 7 May 2009 (BST)
Um, no, sorry. This isn't even close to drama. --Pestolence(talk) 20:38, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:Happykook

Happykook (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Warned

Impersonation. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:28, 5 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism. Warned. I notice you haven't bothered to revert it. Would you like chips with that? -- Cheese 21:04, 5 May 2009 (BST)
Woah, do they actually say would you like chips with that in crazy ol' Scotlan'? You guys need to americanise/ize...--xoxo 04:53, 7 May 2009 (BST)

User:DTangent

Verdict Not Vandalism
Action taken None required

DTangent (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

For this edit to someone's signed comment on a suburb page. --Haliman - Talk 20:52, 4 May 2009 (BST)

You do realise that he puts his own signature on it, so he's not impersonating anyone at all?
The most you could try here is improper removal of a comment from a suburb page, but first you'd have to show that the original post was factual and his comment is not factual and/or POV. That's arbitration to you. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 21:23, 4 May 2009 (BST)
He has just undone your undone edit to his edit. I have now undone his edit again. Still following? On the point: He basically disagrees with what Leon wrote, however his comment's he places are pure griefing. Anyway I am fairly active tonight so I will simply keep undoing his edits until a sysops steps in.--Thadeous Oakley 21:55, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Oh yeah, just realized some people have an obsession with moving everything here to the talk page. I am actually involved here, so remove my comments and I will just put them back.--Thadeous Oakley 22:03, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Alright, thanks Thad. --Haliman - Talk 22:21, 4 May 2009 (BST)

Not vandalism - take it to arbies -- boxy talk • teh rulz 22:38 4 May 2009 (BST)

However his second contribution to the page (which you didn't link to) is getting very close. Any more insults on the page will be a warning -- boxy talk • teh rulz 22:42 4 May 2009 (BST)

User:DanceDanceRevolution

Verdict Ban request
Action taken 5 days

DanceDanceRevolution (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I am requesting a 5 day ban. I need a small amount of time to focus on some issues. I'll be back trying my hardest soon enough. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:41, 4 May 2009 (BST)

Done. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:45, 4 May 2009 (BST)
WTF?????? --Imthatguy 20:21, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Happens quite often.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 22:02, 4 May 2009 (BST)
Yeah, usually when people need to break their wiki addiction for a few days and do stuff in real life. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:37, 5 May 2009 (BST)
Hey! I can quit anytime I want! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:53, 9 May 2009 (BST)
lol@u--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:21, 9 May 2009 (BST)

User:Thescaryman

Thescaryman (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict Vandalism
Action taken Warned

For these edits to the Samhain Slaughter page: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Samhain_Slaughter&diff=prev&oldid=1443747 http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Samhain_Slaughter&diff=prev&oldid=1443746

Note that Thescaryman styles himself as quite the linguist and author; I was impressed by his subtle prose and cunning wordplay.

Also, I rather hope I did this in the proper format. I would be most distressed if this suddenly broke the page or is in the worng section.

--DTPraise KnowledgePK 04:54, 2 May 2009 (BST)

Vandalism - warned. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:14, 2 May 2009 (BST)
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