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Given the quick succession of cases against Corni, and the fact that they both deal with the same arbies case, I'd suggest that this case and the one above be treated as one, and no further escalation is required <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup></span> 03:36 10 May 2010 (BST)</small>
Given the quick succession of cases against Corni, and the fact that they both deal with the same arbies case, I'd suggest that this case and the one above be treated as one, and no further escalation is required <small>-- <span style="text-shadow: #bbb 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">[[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup></span> 03:36 10 May 2010 (BST)</small>
:Um, one is about racism/anti-semeticism, the other is about the breach of a valid arbitration ruling. Why should they be conflated? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:41, 10 May 2010 (BST)
:Um, one is about racism/anti-semetism, the other is about the breach of a valid arbitration ruling. Why should they be conflated? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:41, 10 May 2010 (BST)
::Agreed. But even if we do as boxy says, then the right thing to do would be to make another case with a list of every other anti-semitic comment he made that day, since there were plenty to choose from that were worthy of escalation, not all of which were on A/A. I treated the above racism case as handling all of those other comments as well (since it would have been ludicrous to take each one here). If we're going to roll these two into one and treat it as an arbies issue, then there needs to be another case to deal with the racist comments that weren't on A/A. It'll be the same outcome either way, since many of his other comments were much more racist than the one cited in the above case. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:56, 10 May 2010 (BST)
::Agreed. But even if we do as boxy says, then the right thing to do would be to make another case with a list of every other anti-semitic comment he made that day, since there were plenty to choose from that were worthy of escalation, not all of which were on A/A. I treated the above racism case as handling all of those other comments as well (since it would have been ludicrous to take each one here). If we're going to roll these two into one and treat it as an arbies issue, then there needs to be another case to deal with the racist comments that weren't on A/A. It'll be the same outcome either way, since many of his other comments were much more racist than the one cited in the above case. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:56, 10 May 2010 (BST)



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May 2010

User:CptWesker

CptWesker (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Too many to bother listing individually. I hate doing the three-edit thing, someone just verify shit for me. We're coming to get you, Barbara 01:02, 10 May 2010 (BST)

I know I'm no sysop so you'd just have to trust me ;D But yeah, bad bad boy needs perma >=[ This should have been on the talk page I know but it might mean Mis has a better chance of seeing it. -- 01:08, 10 May 2010 (BST)
Dones. We're coming to get you, Barbara 01:09, 10 May 2010 (BST)

User:Shazam

Shazam (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Please evaluate this change to Necronauts. As it looks like Shazam is not part of the Necronauts (and judging from his other edits is actually owning or affiliated with two of the profiles he removed - "Zumm Zero" and "what's happened"), the edit seems questionable. G F J 17:11, 8 May 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - I'm not seeing any evidence that he's a member of the Necronauts and it looks like those characters are his. I'll see what the others say though before warning him. -- Cheese 17:16, 8 May 2010 (BST)
Vandalism - Yep, pretty cut-and-dry. Warned. Aichon 02:30, 9 May 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo (2)

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Racism. He is blatenly abusing the jewish race here. --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:45, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - Fuck it, I banned Woot for something similar, may as well be consistent. We're coming to get you, Barbara 16:47, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Damnit, Michaelson beat me. Let me dish out the precedents of non-vulgar racism... if something this dumb can constitute vandalism even when a joke, then doing the exact same thing in a serious manner in all ways should too. --

16:49, 7 May 2010 (BST)

lolvandalism -- boxy talkteh rulz 17:24 7 May 2010 (BST)

sigh Vandalism --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:28, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Vandalism and Week ban - I was planning to bring this here myself after I read some of what he was posting in the last 24 hours. Aichon 21:21, 7 May 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Breaking arbies ruling here preventing him to make arbies cases without neutral arbitrater Yonnua's go-ahead. Said case which breached ruling is here.

Before anyone suspects that I actually baited Cornholioo into this, I don't bait users into A/VB cases (I was just fucking about with him) and honestly, I actually forgot the ruling myself until Spiderzed mentioned it to Yonnua.

But really. Hey Cornholioo, you were right, sure looks like you won in this one.

You always win.--

15:38, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Frankly, I think it's counter productive to limit drama magnets like Corni from creating arbies cases via such rulings. Despite his agreement with the ruling, I feel that the ruling was outside the scope of the case in question. It would have been smart for Corni to actually gain approval before the case, but he does need to have arbies open to him, to stop people abusing his talk page (if he can actually prove abuse).
Not vandalism - invalid arbies ruling -- boxy talkteh rulz 16:10 7 May 2010 (BST)

It wasn't a banning of his use of A/A, he just had to ask Yonnua the go ahead. Yonnua isn't an unfairly minded user, he probably would have allowed it to go through. The only time I remember arbies rulings being overturned in A/VB was when Anime and Sonny raped Terminalfailure, which was justified because of its basis of trolling and bullying but I don't believe this is. It means ruling not vandalism can be done, but I don't think the same purpose applies to this case at all. The ruling was in no way harsh, unfair or draconian and it is incredibly easy to follow for Corn... -- 16:23, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - As DDR kindly explained. We're coming to get you, Barbara 16:47, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - Cornholioo could've simply waited until next week before starting the arbitration proceedings (there was no reason why he needed to start it today), or could have easily gone through Yonnua, who has already said that he would have allowed the case to go forward. Had he asked Yonnua, been denied for shady reasons, and then posted it anyway, I would have agreed that it was not vandalism. Had he even questioned the rightness of the ruling itself when it was handed down, he may have had a case. But the fact that he didn't make any attempt to honor the ruling while also never contesting it tells me that he voluntarily chose to ignore it, and that constitutes vandalism. Aichon 21:45, 7 May 2010 (BST)

I consider myself an involved party so I won't be ruling. Just to clear that up.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:39, 9 May 2010 (BST)

Sigh. Corn accepted the arbies ruling, and complied with the process in the past, as Yonnua's archive shows. Much as it pains me to say, Vandalisms. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:38, 9 May 2010 (BST)

Given the quick succession of cases against Corni, and the fact that they both deal with the same arbies case, I'd suggest that this case and the one above be treated as one, and no further escalation is required -- boxy talkteh rulz 03:36 10 May 2010 (BST)

Um, one is about racism/anti-semetism, the other is about the breach of a valid arbitration ruling. Why should they be conflated? We're coming to get you, Barbara 03:41, 10 May 2010 (BST)
Agreed. But even if we do as boxy says, then the right thing to do would be to make another case with a list of every other anti-semitic comment he made that day, since there were plenty to choose from that were worthy of escalation, not all of which were on A/A. I treated the above racism case as handling all of those other comments as well (since it would have been ludicrous to take each one here). If we're going to roll these two into one and treat it as an arbies issue, then there needs to be another case to deal with the racist comments that weren't on A/A. It'll be the same outcome either way, since many of his other comments were much more racist than the one cited in the above case. Aichon 03:56, 10 May 2010 (BST)

User:The_Colonel

The Colonel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Posting on my talk page after told not to.

To support this I want to bring this. White regards, CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 9:30, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Administration, Approved Policies, Administration Guidelines, a search for the word "harassment".
There, go look through those, and let me know when you can tell me what rule he supposedly broke. I know Ross may have said one thing, but I cordially disagree with his statement since I can't find anything to back up the idea of "harassment" being vandalism. We've already told you that this is Not Vandalism several times, and it shouldn't need to be repeated. When it comes to harassment as an official matter, sysops aren't allowed to bully around other users by using their status as a badge, which doesn't apply to the people listed on your page, and "harassment of any user through administration pages may result in vandal escalations," which seems as if it might apply soon if you keep this up. Aichon 10:08, 7 May 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - do you see a pattern forming here, Corni? Go to arbitration and show reason why they should be banned from your page. Telling you not to spam recent changes is not harassment, it's what your talk page is for, so that people can contact you. Banning everyone who says something you don't want to hear is not reasonable (try not being a douchebag instead) -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:44 7 May 2010 (BST)

As boxy. There's a surprise. Theres at least two sysops telling you that it may be a case. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:23, 7 May 2010 (BST)
... and a third one that actually told me to get these people to vandal banning. Rings any bells Rosslessness? --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 12:18, 7 May 2010 (BST)

User:Spiderzed

Spiderzed (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Posting on my talk page after told not to. White regards,Cornholioo 17:16, 2 May 2010 (BST)

I have only to add the following: I'm aware of not being welcome on that talk page. For that reason, I've kept my comment short, to the point, factual, and have done it in good faith (to point out an oversight I assumed Cornholioo had at that time). That being said, I'll gladly receive an official warning if the sys-ops deem that this hasn't been sufficient reason and damage control. --Spiderzed 17:32, 2 May 2010 (BST)
Just avoid it entirely. We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:33, 2 May 2010 (BST)

Vandalism. Will you guys all just not do things any more? We're coming to get you, Barbara 17:30, 2 May 2010 (BST)

Fuck it, Acorn makes sense, Not Vandalism. We're coming to get you, Barbara 20:08, 2 May 2010 (BST)

Not Vandalism - As we explained last time this came up with Cornholioo, until it goes through arbitration, there are no teeth to it. Aichon 20:04, 2 May 2010 (BST)

NV -- boxy talkteh rulz 09:04 3 May 2010 (BST)

User:Oidar

Oidar (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I take highly offence of this: Image:Adolflikedchildren.png. Vandalism? --Cornholioo 14:45, 1 May 2010 (BST)

Category:Humorous Images Oidar 14:48, 1 May 2010 (BST)
Humorous? How dare you call that humorous? --Cornholioo 14:49, 1 May 2010 (BST)
Would you mind explaining exactly what it is that you find offensive? Oidar 14:54, 1 May 2010 (BST)
I found it funny--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 14:54, 1 May 2010 (BST)
Please take it to a talk page somewhere -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:55 1 May 2010 (BST)
Tough. Not vandalism -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:51 1 May 2010 (BST)

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACornholioo&diff=1702380&oldid=1701661 --Cornholioo 15:10, 1 May 2010 (BST)

This is ridiculous. Not vandalism and I'll drop a train full of precedence on you if I need to. We're coming to get you, Barbara 15:44, 1 May 2010 (BST)

Not Vandalism. Open and shut case. Aichon 23:15, 1 May 2010 (BST)