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Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Within two weeks of a nomination, the group must be approved by 2/3 of the voters, with a minimum of 15 voters for a nomination to pass. The only allowable votes are Yea and Nay.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Big Bash 3

BB3. Many of you were fortunate enough to have been a part of it or taken apart by it. For those of you who were, there's no need to explain any of this stuff to you since you were there. You saw it. You felt it. For those that missed it, however, it was something BIG, and it had a planned beginning and end.

Game Impact: We began in the wake of Escape on June 3rd of last year. BB3 started out in the southwest corner of Malton, did a giant looparound the city, had to pause periodically to let folks catch up since we were moving too fast, and finished things up 4 months and a week later with dozens upon dozens of our tag-wearing group members descending on the historic Whetcombe Park, in tribute to those that went On Strike. During that time, we ruined partied in 48 suburbs, though we also ate the brains of dozens of other suburbs that were fortunate enough to be adjacent to those 48. We moved through suburbs so quickly that most survivors never even knew we were coming until their suburb was ruined, and though no official count was kept, it's probably safe to say that thousands, if not tens of thousands, of brains were eaten by our members in the four months we were active. Backing that up, the survivor to zombie ratio shifted from about 70:30 when we started, to more like 40:60 when we ended.

Community Impact: I believe that at our peak we were the largest organized group in the game, which is made all the more impressive by the fact that we had numerous other groups that joined us while keeping their own tags, plus a massive feral cloud that could be felt from suburbs away. A cloud so renowned, in fact, that more than once since we disbanded, many of us have heard the cry of an ignorant survivor as they declared, "Its [sic] Big Bash 3!" when a random zombie breached a building. It's happened so often, in fact, that the Philosophe Knights even satirized the occurrence during a play they staged. The fact that the Malton Herald & Sun featured BB3, coupled with the fact that we disbanded suddenly (but intentionally) while we were still the second largest organized group in the game probably led to the confusion.

Strategic Impact: We advocated the use of attack windows in addition to strike teams, which ensured that even without coordination and communication, we still struck as a horde. Tactics such as these are what led to a healthy Fort Creedy and Giddings Mall falling within hours of each other after we moved into the suburb. Having a horde didn't hurt either, of course.

Wiki Impact: Did I mention that we have a kick-ass group page? And that we had received over 3000 page views of a countdown we posted a week in advance of when we officially started? We were also the most-linked group page for most of our run.

Other Impact: BRA!NZ.

—Aichon⁴— 22:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Voting Rules
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The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Yes

  1. Yes - The party may have ended, but we still have the memories, and there's no denying that we made a big impact while we were around. I've been waiting for the four-month inactive timer to finish up so I could finally post this, and today is the day. —Aichon⁴— 22:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  2. Yes - If you want to talk about things with an impact in 2010, Big Bash should be high up on your list if you don't want to be laughed at. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  3. Yes - Wow has it been four months already. I was there and it was indeed groundbreaking. Just look at the suburb map history for June, July, August, and particularly September of 2010 and you'll see just what kind of impact was made. The group made a lasting impact on the game which lasted many, many weeks after (and to an extent before) the events. It was definitely historic. ~Vsig.png 22:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  4. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I had fun! -- Bisfan 01:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
  6. Yes - I don't think a horde has ever moved around the map so fast. Good times and great memories.-- Skoll Die 01:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

No

  1. No -Big Bash 3 was to Big Bash as Godfather 3 was to the Godfather.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 22:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  2. No I thought I'd be the only one. The Impact was much less than either of its predecessors and was nothing new. (I can see why people would vote yes, but I've always fallen back on the question "Did they change the game?" when I vote. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:00, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
    I can see where you're coming from, but by your standard I don't think that we'll ever see any new groups enter the ranks of Historical Group, which isn't fair to those that are worthy of note. And if you're looking for game changing or new, it shifted the population balance drastically and introduced a new method of coordinating a feral horde that I have not heard of being used prior to it at this scale. As Spiderzed said, any mention of 2010 should include it. —Aichon— 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
  3. No - BB3 was impressive and it did demonstrate that the survivor player base is evaporating (confirmed by the recent GSGM). Furthermore, it is now clear that the remaining metagamers are basically zombies. So the fallout from the bash has lead to a significant revelation. However when considering a big bash or a big prick or a mall tour or escape etc, I think it's enough to include the first of each of these events as historically significant, rather than each subsequent one.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 04:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Big Survivors Little Survivor

Anyway, as unlikely to succeed as it is, I'd like to nominate Big Survivors Little Survivor for Historical status.

You probably have no idea who they were. It's unsurprising.

To Paraphrase.

  • BSLS were the first group of any description to be created in Borehamwood.
  • BSLS members hold the records for both "largest survived suicide repair in a perma death city." (350ap) and "largest suicide repair ever attempted" (529ap)
  • BSLS were the largest organised survivor group, before the meta combined all survivor groups into a single lump.
  • BSLS helped implement the standardised 28.06 radio channel throughout borehamwood alongside Galaxy News Radio
  • BSLS helped in the hunt for Game Over actively tracking Borehamwood's only publicised PK'er group. In the end we managed to wipe out their two leaders, whilst other survivors finished the job.
  • BSLS had Borehamwood's only international celebrity, namely Dermot O'leary. Famed throughout the city for his habit of suicide repairs without telling anyone.

So what? I here you say. Did the BSLS do anything game changing or unique? Well I believe they did.

  • BSLS helped discover, understand and fix the single most game breaking error in Urban Dead history, namely the free repair of all buildings with a repair cost of more than 150ap. Rather than exploit a bug that could of led to the reclamation of the entire ruined city in only a month and against the advice of some radical survivors, the Little Survivor's suspended all repairs, and tried to stop the game from massively screwing zombies. As one member commented. "We've stayed ahead of the zombies so far, we don't need this."

And on a slightly more annoying note,

  • BSLS were finally wiped out when User:Rosslessness requested Kevan bring snow to Urban dead. Less than a day later the last of the group was devoured by a feral who simply followed their footprints.

Which is why you now get....

So there you go. I look forward to your, "WWWHHOOOOOOO?" comments. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Voting Rules
Votes must be numbered, signed, and timestamped. They can take one of two forms:
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    or
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Votes that do not conform to the above will be struck by a moderator.

The only valid voting sections are Yes and No. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Yes

  1. Yes Obviously. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  2. Yes but maybe have subcategories for the different cities. -MHSstaff 17:42, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
    If there was more than one, then yes. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
    I see. Cross that bridge when you have more than one in Borehamwood/Monroeville?-MHSstaff 18:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
    It's been suggested in the past, pretty sure it was rejected because both those categories would be pretty much empty. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  3. I could vouch for this. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  4. Who?--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
    You placed your vote in the wrong space >:P --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 17:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
    I do know who they are, but Ross said he was looking foreward to who comments :P --Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Have missed Borehamwood, but even I have heard of some of their accomplishments before. -- Spiderzed▋ 17:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  6. Aye - Who? Usually when I say who I go "Nay" but not here. Their accomplishments are quite impressive. I didn't play in Borehamwood, so I can't blame the group for not being known to me. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png Talk 18:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  7. Yes - may as well. BTW Dermot's wasn't Borehamwood's only celeb [[1]] --  ▧  : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 19:15, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  8. What you mean it isn't historical yet? Something died inside me when I didn't get to kill Dermot--which feels well funny when you're already very dead. Make it so. And add the Monroeville Many, while you're at it. --Sophie ◆◆◆ CAPD 19:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  9. They were a seriously important group - I've heard alot about them, and I did very little in Borehamwood.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  10. yes but Zombie Davina does not approve of anyone else eating Dermot! --Honestmistake 21:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  11. Yes - It's a bit of a case of a big fish in a small pond type of situation, as I see it. They might not have been anything special had they been in Malton, but in B-wood, they stood out from what I've heard, and really shaped and defined that city. —Aichon— 21:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  12. Yes - BSLS are one of the few non-Malton groups to have had a significant impact on the wider game, and are responsible for one of the game's few truly iconic characters, too. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 21:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  13. Yes as Thad. I didn't get into borehamwood, but those are impressive accomplishments. (maybe not so if they were in malton, but they weren't) --†hana†ologis† (talk) 02:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  14. Yes even if I didn't grab Dermot's sig when I had the chance.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 05:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  15. Pretty much as Aich. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  16. Yes they played with a straight bat --C Whitty 15:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  17. Yes -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose another Manhunt. 15:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
    welcome back Rorybob!--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 18:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  18. User:Whitehouse 21:55, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

No

  1. Meh - Being the first group in the city, if true, would be worthy if there were some separate category for borehamwood, but the rest looks like padding the resume - finding a bug, doing survivor things like working with other groups and repairing buildings, getting killed when zombies found the last member, etc. This isn't to diminish the fun they had playing or the significance of the group in their own context, mainly I just can't get excited enough about a borehamwood group to put them on par with the historical entries from the main game.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 18:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  2. ahNO - it pains me to agree with giles.----sexualharrisonStarofdavid2.png ¯\(Boobs.gif)/¯ 02:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
    Love you too sexy ;) --GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 14:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  3. Who? - As Giles. --VVV RPMBG 18:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  4. No - Borehamwood, snorehamwood. --Papa Moloch 22:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
  5. Nope --Efighter 13:58, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
  6. No As Giles and Papa Asheets 16:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
  7. No Having a historical group from Borehamwood would be like giving an Emmy to someone in Joanie Loves Chachi. Spinoffs hardly ever work. Unless its Golden Girls, which this is not.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 17:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
  8. No fuck no Spud 01:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
  9. No absolutely not! --Akbar 04:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

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