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===[[User:Urban sombrero|Urban sombrero]] AKA [[User:Celmare|Celmare]] (3) * Self Added Response (Wonder if this will even be allowed to be reviewed by anyone of consideration, or good sense?=== + ===[[User:Urban sombrero|Urban sombrero]] AKA [[User:Celmare|Celmare]] (2)===
{{vndl|Urban sombrero}} {{vndl|Celmare}} {{verdict}}  {{vndl|Urban sombrero}} {{vndl|Celmare}} {{verdict}}
FIXED. And since I am involved it needs to stay. Besides, you want to censor someone who just tried to make pages more factually accurate, and still all voted to keep a SYSOP who abuses his own power. Typically Hy[pocritical.
   
- "Any luck with that Factual Continuity argument?--" + [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Celmare&diff=next&oldid=1761386 Here] Impersonation. Silly. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:41, 18 August 2010 (BST)
   
- So what about the fact that the Ridleybank info page (With a disclaimer that states it is Neutral) is, essentially, a propoganda page for the RRF?  + '''Vandalism''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2‎}} 14:53, 18 August 2010 (BST)
- Is it supposed to be an information page about Ridleybank, and it's history (accurately reported from both sides), or is it about one specific user group (and their ideas/ideals) regarding the brug? + 
   
- Seems that the page is in need of a MAJOR overhaul fro proper editting. Many of the "contributions" from thr RRF should be footnote links only (and clarified as such), or wholly placed on their own Group page, and led to with a small link. + Distastefully reminiscing of the precedents like [[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2008_12#User:J3D_3|this]], except unlike the given link which I would have ruled not vandalism if I was op at the time, this isn't such an obvious joke and is done to troll/pester an unwilling user. '''Vandalism''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 16:06, 18 August 2010 (BST)
-  + 
- Is a neutral info page about a burb supposed to have a LARGE portion dedicated to one specific user groups barricade procedures? + 
- Are there any other groups on any other info/neutral page that this is allowed. It smacks of favoritism. + 
-  + 
- It seems that the necessary edits could be easily done, but there are certain administrative elements that seem to want to change the rules. The fact it has been mentioned that certain elements feel personal about that group automatically proves that those individuals are not without bias, and lack the proper perspective to properly hold their positions. + 
-  + 
- Simply, the RRF is just another group in the game. Regardless of who is in it, or any accomplishments they may have engendered, they should not receive ANY preference beyond the standard. In fact, there really isn't a way to prove ANY of the exploits even happened as stated, so (technically) all the reported events or opinions/possibly fabricated anyway. + 
- Not saying that's the case, but it's still the point. The events that happen should be simple by lines on the main info page, not big explanations about a certain groups personal ideals, preferences, barricade policies (should just be stated as standard zed policies with a footnote to RF's group page for personal tweaks) and such. + 
-  + 
- The fact now is Ridleybank IS a ghost town. Tons of survivors skate thru there unfazed, or even remotely concerned, and it's a boring do nothing palce as such. While any can contend that it's so because the Zed presence was so strong there, the fact remains that it hold no danger, and there for interest, at this point in time. It's a nothing place anymore. Accept it and move on. + 
-  + 
- As for the rest: + 
- Is it really acceptable to have "Barhaville" as the link to Barryville? + 
- Seems that is a Zed affectation, and not the general knowledge of the UD game players. It's not neutral, and inappropriate. The explanation on the Barrville page should be enough without editting the link. If certain people want to be Zeds so bad in real life then they should really jump off a building (or some other suitable method). + 
- Plus, last I checked Zeds can't use PCs, and defintely wouldn;t be capable ingame reagrdless, so trying to have a pro-zed page under the false pretense of Neutrality is even more hypocritical. + 
-  + 
- The barricades procedure needs to be changed to general Zed procedures (as stated how above). + 
-  + 
- In the end. Regardless of how long, or large, that user group is doesn't mean that the history should be cahnged to accomodate their whims. So far it seems the lot of Sysops are not very adept at parity, or accurate journalism. + 
-  + 
- So I figured I'd drop a line (and likely shake things up since it's outside my prescribed "specific" notation time!) + 
- I mean "Really?" + 
- Are these attempts at wanna be Internet Detectives really helping? + 
- How about doing the job right? Looking at comments objectively before already having a judgement prepared before an "arbitration" + 
-  + 
- Besides, it's not like there really is much power to wield, other then major dis-information by abusing the neutral pages. (and not really verifying some info for accuracy. + 
-  + 
- For example: + 
- It's come into notice that Pathetic Bill user group actually fabricated many of their kills just to see if they could get caught. + 
- The only posted a cursory amount of screenies to back up any claims. + 
- Isn't it actually violating UD Wiki regs to make false claims against other characters in game? + 
- If not it should be. + 
- And before it is asked, I doubt that the claims, pro or con, could be proved otherwise, so why is unproveable, and possibly violating , information allowed to exist on the pages? + 
-  + 
- Also, I think this site might want to review recent rulings (related to Wiki) regarding posting potential false information. Given that it's a free site, with open editting, posing as an information hub, there is strong possibilities it violateds accurate free speech, and educational dictates, that come as responsibilities to the site. + 
- And THAT is, quite possibly, an actionable offense that can be undertaken by an offended government. Even though it is a game index, and the internet is supposed to be free, it fdepends where the hub/servers are locvated, and how the actioning body views whether it is jurisdictional or not. Regardless, the offending SySOPs would definitely be held most accountable, as they are the day to day managers, so you might want to look into what can happen in the worst case scenario. + 
-  + 
- Hell, I wonder if this site could even be crashed by over pop? Just a random thought and meandering... + 
- But I digress. + 
-  + 
- So now back to the pretentious, political pandering that will in no way, shape, or form actually address the real issue(the corruption of a neutral page with over usage of a specific user groups info), so everyone can keep pretending they are doing their job right while ruining the game in little segments. + 
- Good Day
===[[User:Mike Aussie]]===
===[[User:Mike Aussie]]===
{{vndl|Mike Aussie}} {{verdict}}
{{vndl|Mike Aussie}} {{verdict}}

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August 2010

Urban sombrero AKA Celmare (3) * Self Added Response (Wonder if this will even be allowed to be reviewed by anyone of consideration, or good sense?=== + ===Urban sombrero AKA Celmare (2)

Urban sombrero (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Celmare (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) 

Urban sombrero (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Celmare (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

FIXED. And since I am involved it needs to stay. Besides, you want to censor someone who just tried to make pages more factually accurate, and still all voted to keep a SYSOP who abuses his own power. Typically Hy[pocritical.

- "Any luck with that Factual Continuity argument?--" + Here Impersonation. Silly. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:41, 18 August 2010 (BST)

- So what about the fact that the Ridleybank info page (With a disclaimer that states it is Neutral) is, essentially, a propoganda page for the RRF? + Vandalism --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:53, 18 August 2010 (BST) - Is it supposed to be an information page about Ridleybank, and it's history (accurately reported from both sides), or is it about one specific user group (and their ideas/ideals) regarding the brug? +

- Seems that the page is in need of a MAJOR overhaul fro proper editting. Many of the "contributions" from thr RRF should be footnote links only (and clarified as such), or wholly placed on their own Group page, and led to with a small link. + Distastefully reminiscing of the precedents like this, except unlike the given link which I would have ruled not vandalism if I was op at the time, this isn't such an obvious joke and is done to troll/pester an unwilling user. Vandalism --

16:06, 18 August 2010 (BST)

- + - Is a neutral info page about a burb supposed to have a LARGE portion dedicated to one specific user groups barricade procedures? + - Are there any other groups on any other info/neutral page that this is allowed. It smacks of favoritism. + - + - It seems that the necessary edits could be easily done, but there are certain administrative elements that seem to want to change the rules. The fact it has been mentioned that certain elements feel personal about that group automatically proves that those individuals are not without bias, and lack the proper perspective to properly hold their positions. + - + - Simply, the RRF is just another group in the game. Regardless of who is in it, or any accomplishments they may have engendered, they should not receive ANY preference beyond the standard. In fact, there really isn't a way to prove ANY of the exploits even happened as stated, so (technically) all the reported events or opinions/possibly fabricated anyway. + - Not saying that's the case, but it's still the point. The events that happen should be simple by lines on the main info page, not big explanations about a certain groups personal ideals, preferences, barricade policies (should just be stated as standard zed policies with a footnote to RF's group page for personal tweaks) and such. + - + - The fact now is Ridleybank IS a ghost town. Tons of survivors skate thru there unfazed, or even remotely concerned, and it's a boring do nothing palce as such. While any can contend that it's so because the Zed presence was so strong there, the fact remains that it hold no danger, and there for interest, at this point in time. It's a nothing place anymore. Accept it and move on. + - + - As for the rest: + - Is it really acceptable to have "Barhaville" as the link to Barryville? + - Seems that is a Zed affectation, and not the general knowledge of the UD game players. It's not neutral, and inappropriate. The explanation on the Barrville page should be enough without editting the link. If certain people want to be Zeds so bad in real life then they should really jump off a building (or some other suitable method). + - Plus, last I checked Zeds can't use PCs, and defintely wouldn;t be capable ingame reagrdless, so trying to have a pro-zed page under the false pretense of Neutrality is even more hypocritical. + - + - The barricades procedure needs to be changed to general Zed procedures (as stated how above). + - + - In the end. Regardless of how long, or large, that user group is doesn't mean that the history should be cahnged to accomodate their whims. So far it seems the lot of Sysops are not very adept at parity, or accurate journalism. + - + - So I figured I'd drop a line (and likely shake things up since it's outside my prescribed "specific" notation time!) + - I mean "Really?" + - Are these attempts at wanna be Internet Detectives really helping? + - How about doing the job right? Looking at comments objectively before already having a judgement prepared before an "arbitration" + - + - Besides, it's not like there really is much power to wield, other then major dis-information by abusing the neutral pages. (and not really verifying some info for accuracy. + - + - For example: + - It's come into notice that Pathetic Bill user group actually fabricated many of their kills just to see if they could get caught. + - The only posted a cursory amount of screenies to back up any claims. + - Isn't it actually violating UD Wiki regs to make false claims against other characters in game? + - If not it should be. + - And before it is asked, I doubt that the claims, pro or con, could be proved otherwise, so why is unproveable, and possibly violating , information allowed to exist on the pages? + - + - Also, I think this site might want to review recent rulings (related to Wiki) regarding posting potential false information. Given that it's a free site, with open editting, posing as an information hub, there is strong possibilities it violateds accurate free speech, and educational dictates, that come as responsibilities to the site. + - And THAT is, quite possibly, an actionable offense that can be undertaken by an offended government. Even though it is a game index, and the internet is supposed to be free, it fdepends where the hub/servers are locvated, and how the actioning body views whether it is jurisdictional or not. Regardless, the offending SySOPs would definitely be held most accountable, as they are the day to day managers, so you might want to look into what can happen in the worst case scenario. + - + - Hell, I wonder if this site could even be crashed by over pop? Just a random thought and meandering... + - But I digress. + - + - So now back to the pretentious, political pandering that will in no way, shape, or form actually address the real issue(the corruption of a neutral page with over usage of a specific user groups info), so everyone can keep pretending they are doing their job right while ruining the game in little segments. + - Good Day


User:Mike Aussie

Mike Aussie (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Self-confessed alt of the below two accounts (check user confirms). -- Cheese 18:04, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Urban sombrero AKA Celmare (2)

Urban sombrero (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Celmare (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Here Impersonation. Silly. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:41, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:53, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Distastefully reminiscing of the precedents like this, except unlike the given link which I would have ruled not vandalism if I was op at the time, this isn't such an obvious joke and is done to troll/pester an unwilling user. Vandalism --

16:06, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Urban sombrero AKA Celmare

Urban sombrero (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss) Celmare (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Checkuser confirms that these two are the same individual. Identical MO and page edits. Both started off as Danger report updaters, followed by spammish comments to the Ridleybank and other pages. Several IPs used by at least Celmare are known proxies. Thoughts?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 13:14, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Celmare is indeed the main account as its older. And traditionally we've always banned open proxies. Karek banned about a million. Any luck with that Factual Continuity argument?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:22, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Proxies not listed on the Wikipedia blacklist, but googling the IPs identifies them as proxies. Still permissable to block them udner policy? The relevant policy says to sue wikipedia's "as well as our own". So, can we block them?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 13:24, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Factual Continuity? Aichon 13:31, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Read Sombrero' page. Go ahead and ban the open proxies. Someone want to misconduct me later, so be it. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:32, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Proxie IP's are banned on sight. For the Ridleybank shit, arbie him. If there's anything specific you want him warned for, bring the edits and we can rule on them together, but atm I've skimmed through generally and there isn't really anything they've done that's vandalism besides the pathetic bill shit that I came across. If I'm wrong, bring on the difs cause I could have easily missed some. --

13:37, 18 August 2010 (BST)

I'd also like to add that Urban S. was created on the 16th, right after Achion explained to Charl him why his edits were remiss. Charl stopped editing and Urban took straight back over. Strange that. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:50, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Right. Anyway. Ive banned all the open proxies used, and a whole bunch of similar ones coming from one location. There's a couple I left off as I couldn't be sure, but hey, If he tries again and they're similar, we'll know. Incidentally, Im involved and all, but I assume we'd like one account only for him? I don't think he really needs two. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:04, 18 August 2010 (BST)
I agree. I'd think a permaban on urban Sombrero, move the talk to Celmare's and replace with a redirct.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:10, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Get some more input though. He'll be back online between 5 and 6. That's a bet based off previous behaviour. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:17, 18 August 2010 (BST)
Then back online properly sometime just before 8 for the whole evening. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:18, 18 August 2010 (BST)
I have nothing against letting him edit under two accounts. As long as they are treated as one and the vandal data is combined (obviously one of them can be banned as a vandal alt once vandalism is done) I really don't mind. -- 15:59, 18 August 2010 (BST)

Poodle of Doom

Poodle of doom (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Just sick and tired of being sick and tired of the same old shit.... - Poodle of Doom 05:57, 15 August 2010 (BST)

Uh-huh? Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 05:58, 15 August 2010 (BST)
What,... ban me already... - Poodle of Doom 05:59, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Perma, month, five minutes til you change your mind again again, how long? Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 06:00, 15 August 2010 (BST)
What ever floats your boat. I didn't get what I asked for the last couple of times anyway. I don't know how long I'm going to be out of the country this time anyway. - Poodle of Doom 06:14, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Perma'd. Length doesn't matter, since self-requested ones are as long as he wants them to be anyway. And now, I'm gonna go deal with A/SD... Aichon 06:44, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Ffs. so fucking cut. -- 06:45, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Also, if this needs to go on A/VD, can someone else get it? I can't remember if we note these there or not. Aichon 06:46, 15 August 2010 (BST)
We typically don't, dw. -- 06:49, 15 August 2010 (BST)

You still need to protect Userpage/Talk. As well as adding the appropriate templates. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 12:07, 15 August 2010 (BST)

Protected. Adding Templates.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:09, 15 August 2010 (BST)
I considered a template on his user page inappropriate, because it's a redirect. Anyone who wants to add one feel free (if you can edit protected pages lol).--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:11, 15 August 2010 (BST)
Drat, I knew I was forgetting something obvious last night when I was processing all of that stuff. Just couldn't remember what it was. Aichon 18:24, 15 August 2010 (BST)

User:Kaspian Waters

Kaspian Waters (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Vandalism of the LOO Rangers page. Related to the second case below--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:42, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Edit--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:43, 12 August 2010 (BST)
Doesn't seem to get it. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:50, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Ffff. Vandalism, possible 3-edit rule? Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 16:53, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Gotta wait for one more then. Only two edits were vandalism. But we shouldn't encourage vandalism, now should we ;)? --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 16:55, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - 3 edit doesn't apply because there are non-vandal edits.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:19, 12 August 2010 (BST)

In fact, seems to have been present in 2005 more than once. There's also a comment on Talk:On Strike.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:24, 12 August 2010 (BST)
Must have been before the purge then, I just checked the contribs. I wasn't sure if talk comments counted under the 3-edit rule though. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 17:57, 12 August 2010 (BST)
Neither was I, but I'm pretty sure the 3 edit only applies to vandalistic edits. And yeah, it was before the purge. The best tactic is to type his name in to search and then his all namespaces.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 20:11, 12 August 2010 (BST)
If you're looking for information regarding what is or isn't a 3-edit case, see here. Aichon 02:22, 13 August 2010 (BST)
Just look at "what links here" on his user page. -- 07:32, 13 August 2010 (BST)

Warned - no need to wait on fairly straightforward cases like this. Just warn the buggers -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:03 12 August 2010 (BST)

User:TripleU

TripleU (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Much to my surprise, it seems that saving one's work until a week before the deadline is a bad idea. However, I know from experience that wiki ≠ finished work. I'm not sure if no wiki = finished work, but It's worth a try. End it on the 16th, please. --VVV RPMBG 06:46, 12 August 2010 (BST)

Will do in just a moment. Aichon 06:59, 12 August 2010 (BST)
No wiki definately ≠ finished work. :( Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 07:10, 12 August 2010 (BST)

User:Loup Garou and User:Comeatmebro

Loup Garou (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Comeatmebro (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)


Page blanking repeatedly. Page seems contentious but the edit warring should stop. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 21:06, 11 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - Loup Garou warned, Comeatmebro permabaned -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:21 11 August 2010 (BST)

User:Akdov

Akdov (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

This

--Dawkins DAWKINS IS WATCHIN' [T][P!][W!][] is currently: having his arm torn off by a zombie. 20:55, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Seems simple enough. V. Mebbe. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 20:58, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Newb error. Thinks he's updating the danger report.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 20:59, 9 August 2010 (BST)

How about we ask him on his talk page what he was trying to do before we jump to conclusions? His contributions don't seem to point towards vandalistic behavior, so I'm guessing it was a mistake, but since he's never updated a danger report, I disagree with Yonn's assessment. Basically, I don't know what he was doing, but I don't think it was in bad faith. Follow the guidelines on this page by giving him the benefit of the doubt and talking it out with him. Aichon 21:08, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Why do you disagree? His next contribution was criticising the lack of updates of danger reports in and around spicer hills. I'd wager he clicked the image, was directed there, and editted the image description, thinking that was how he changed it.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:10, 9 August 2010 (BST)
I'll wait til I see if he says anything, but other than that it was one of those edits which could be argued from either side and I'm in a bad mood after stepping a legoman barefoot. >:( Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 21:14, 9 August 2010 (BST)
He edits spontaneously every 2-5 months. It could be 2011 before he even sees the message.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:23, 9 August 2010 (BST)
The nearest mall to his local group's HQ is 17 blocks away, hence why I doubted it was related. It would be odd if his very first danger report ever was for a location that isn't nearby, especially when his group is headquartered in a decently well-known TRP and has eight other TRPs within five blocks. Aichon 21:31, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Well since that image is used on all danger reports, and not just malls, I'd say that's pretty inconsequencial.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:33, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Location of malls matters why? All those images are titled mall-whatever, but get used on all danger reports. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 21:34, 9 August 2010 (BST)
*cough* Umm...well...you see...*points dramatically* Is that a zombie hippopotamus eating a baby alien birthed by Britney Spears over there?! *runs away* Aichon 21:40, 9 August 2010 (BST)

I'm thinking close the case as an obvious newb error, with the option to reopen if he turns up and says "Yep, I'm a vandal".. Any oppositions?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:42, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - just doesn't understand how to update danger reports -- boxy talkteh rulz 22:10 9 August 2010 (BST)

This. -- 04:27, 10 August 2010 (BST)

User:Barry bonds

Barry bonds (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

You might be interested that the new user that you welcomed, Barry bonds, has done nothing but vandalizing my entries to insult me. I'm sure he is BarryBonds756, a Pitneybank PKer whom I've been in conflict with. Looks like he couldn't find me in-game, so he pathetically attacked me on the Wiki instead.

I'll just revert back the vandalism and leave his case to your judgment. -- Kittithaj 04:17, 9 August 2010 (BST)

I'm taking this off Mis's Talk page, and posting it here... - Poodle of Doom 04:24, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Here are some diff links. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:53, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalisms - 4 edits, none contributive so it's a lovely sexy permaban for this guy. -- Cheese 08:25, 9 August 2010 (BST)

Axe Hack

Axe Hack (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

I request a 20 hour banning starting from at least the time of this post. Why? I'll be on a plane heading back to New York soon and it'll be a nuisance if someone were to hack my account if I'm on the plane, wouldn't it? Thanks in advance! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:09, 8 August 2010 (BST)

Uh, ok. 20 hours beginning now. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 01:14, 8 August 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo (2)

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Continues to spam up the vandalism page with race baiting despite a soft warning -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:30 5 August 2010 (BST)

If I vote vandalism will all of you guys promise to stop feeding him? He'll only spam the admin pages like this when you bring him to VB for things. Troll him on his own pages. It's more efficient. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 14:32, 5 August 2010 (BST)


Oh how I wish this involved party could vote vandalism, since he's directly doing exactly what he was warned not to do by Boxy, and repeatedly. --

14:35, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism - This has got to stop. -- Cheese 15:36, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Looking at his VD, if this goes through as vandalism, he's up for a permaban vote. -- Cheese 15:38, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Yep. Not that that should affect the case in hand. Let's worry about that if it comes to vandalism. -- 16:26, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Then go ahead and permban me for defending myself. --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:23, 5 August (BST)
Sorry we'll get back to you when we're finished spinning dreidels. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 17:27, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Thanks for admitting that you're a Jew. Jews often deny being a Jew. This is also a Tactic of Judas. --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:29, 5 August (BST)
Oh? I just happen to enjoy spinning dreidel. You should try it when you're not too busy flicking man-bean. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 17:32, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Image:Davidster.jpg --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:38, 5 August (BST)
Aww, it's a community bonfire. He really does have a heart. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 17:46, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Vandalism.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:38, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Ban me, my work will be done. Image:Bloodandhonour-250.jpg --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:41, 05 August (BST)

That seems like a self request to me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:51, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Enough. Month ban and permban vote -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:02 5 August 2010 (BST)

Perma?

  1. Yes -- boxy talkteh rulz 23:02 5 August 2010 (BST)
  2. No far too much fun. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 23:03, 5 August 2010 (BST)
  3. Yes - Shown an unwillingness to participate as a contributive and non-abusive member of the wiki, and has blatantly disregarded what he was just told not to do. If not for the linked offense, then certainly for what he posted in his "defense". Aichon 23:04, 5 August 2010 (BST)
  4. Yes Unless anyone can find a constructive npov edit he's made. And then still yes.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:08, 5 August 2010 (BST)
  5. No - Personally, I'm against the perma-ban for anybody but accounts which just vandalise. Since his offences are more public nuisance than vandalism of pages, I'll go with no this time, but if he offends again, I'll be inclined to change my mind.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:31, 5 August 2010 (BST)
    more on talk page
  6. No - A month at a time is good enough for now. Next time I'll say yes. -- 01:43, 6 August 2010 (BST)
    more on talk page
  7. Yes - Cheese 11:16, 6 August 2010 (BST)
  8. Yes - Since Cheese asked me so nicely to weigh in. Anyways, as surprising as it may sound, I've actually been following this. I'd say it's pretty clear if Mr. Cornholioo is allowed back on, he'll just continue his racist tirades. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 22:51, 6 August 2010 (BST)

Permabanned since that's all of the regular voters on A/VB. Aichon 12:06, 6 August 2010 (BST) Bit early -- Cheese 21:17, 6 August 2010 (BST)

Plz update the userpage accordingly; perma-banned instead of one month ban.--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 15:05, 6 August 2010 (BST)
Done. -- 15:08, 6 August 2010 (BST)
Erm...

I hate to bring this up (honestly, I do), but the vote hasn't come down in favour of a perma. =/ The policy says we need a two thirds majority in a week long vote. We have 57% after less than 24 hours. Wee bit fast off the mark there, Aichon. -- Cheese 19:57, 6 August 2010 (BST)

I feel very stupid. I had forgotten we had policy dictating it to that extent and that 2/3 was necessary. Yep, I was definitely in the wrong here. Aichon 21:52, 6 August 2010 (BST)

With the Rooster demoted, a 2/3 majority is no longer possible unless Kevan votes or someone changes their mind. - User:Whitehouse 19:40, 10 August 2010 (BST)

Well then, frankly, I think it's case closed. Cornhoolio is advised not to do this again, or he faces a very likely permanent ban.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:50, 10 August 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)


More hate speech about races here, again quite similar to the last time he did it and was escalated here, in his "you are/doing something [negative] and therefore that aspect/action related to you is a jew." I guess I might aswell also submit this which I distastefully remember as being rules as "vandalism" as evidence about how tenuous these connections may constitute racism.

I'm not jewish, which most probably makes it worse that he's trying to bring his racist ideologies into an unrelated discussion. --

03:00, 5 August 2010 (BST)

If you guys would just fucking codify this shit already... Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 03:04, 5 August 2010 (BST)
I think it's still too dangerous. I think, a few months ago, where we escalated people for not just dropping the N-Bomb, but slightly resting it onto the ground and petting it until it stopped crying, in the name of the TOU, was too far. Maybe that's cause I'm Australian and all aussies are racists. But the line is so hard to be drawn I think it should be treated on a case-by-case basis. -- 03:11, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Bah. Anyway if we're doing it case by case, this time it's simply been a case of accusing the Jews of holding their hands over their heads, and surely they have to put those caps on somehow. I'm erring on the side of not vandalism for this one but I'll rule later. Still think we need an actual policy, even one that tells us which side to lean more often. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 03:14, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Not Vandalism - His last vandalism comment wasn't by itself, and, as I recall, I was ruling based not only on the quote that was linked, but also on some of the other stuff he had said that same day, which was as bad or worse, if memory serves. This time, however, he didn't say anything too out there. Give him time though. I'm sure he'll hang himself soon enough with his own words. He always does. Aichon 04:22, 5 August 2010 (BST)

First of all, I don't think I've said anything technically wrong there, even if you do qualify it racist. For example: African blacks have an average IQ of 75. US Blacks have an average IQ of 85. Whites have an average IQ of 100 (often higher in the Germanic states; lower in the Mediterranean states). Blacks are more aggressive and impulsive than Whites. This is all scientifically proven. Scientifically it's safe to say that 'whites are smarter than blacks' or that 'criminality is influences by genes' although some people might call that racist. Jews do often hold each others a hand above the head. That is the same thing. Then there is also something like 'blacks are able to run fasten than whites', which is also the same thing, although, for some wonderful reason no one ever calls this racism (why would that be? (HINT: divide and conquer)).

Second, I don't think I've ever mentioned the word 'nigger' on this wiki.

Third, I have no idea how it is in England, but in the Netherlands we call 'racism': 'discrimination by race'. According to our constitution, 'discrimination' means 'making differences based on attributes (look very closely:) that are unimportant at this point'. There was not something like that, since I didn't mention the Jews as a group. What I literally said was: "Jews often hold eachothers a hand above the head". And I think we can all agree that "Wiki is still a Jewish network, and is used by Jews a lot." is not racism.

Fourth, probably makes not much difference what I'm typing. Jews often hold eachothers a hand above the head. White Regards, --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 10:30, 5 August 2010

International website, dictionary.com defines racism as "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others." Thats science. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:48, 5 August 2010 (BST)

That's not science, but ok. So can you explain me how anything I said fits this? --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 11:30, 5 August 2010

I've given him a soft warning, any more of this on admin pages, and it's warning/ban time -- boxy talkteh rulz 11:04 5 August 2010 (BST)

And next time round its a perma ban vote I believe. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:07, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Gee, I wonder which way that will turn! --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 11:30, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Still no one ever explained me how this fits racism. The wiki always claims to be neutral, but this is the third time there is a bias. I know multiple people agree with me on this. My life's task is unmasking the Jews, and I'm proud of my work on this wiki.--CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 11:30, 5 August 2010
We just said it didn't fit racism, hence the Not Vandalism ruling, if you had actually stopped to read instead of coming here and complaining immediately. You were soft warned for your racially-oriented commentary here, which is a fancy way of saying that you didn't get in trouble for anything this time, but we're asking you not to do it or else you will get in trouble later. The point is that racially-oriented discussions have no place on the admin pages, in the same way that we wouldn't allow someone to argue the superiority of their political party, or their favorite computer brand, or their take on how we all came into being on this rock. That sort of stuff has no place here, and that's what you were soft warned for. Aichon 11:47, 5 August 2010 (BST)
So I'm soft warned for posting "Jews often hold each others a hand above the head"? --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 12:10, 5 August 2010
Race rants on admin pages. So basically, yep! Don't do it again, or you'll face permaban1!!!-- 12:24, 5 August 2010 (BST)
So besides posting something not racist, I'm warned for explaining myself? That means I won. Plus if I'd have posted something like "hey crackers, we fucken pwn u at marathon LOL, BLACK POWERRRRRRRRRRR, peace out honkeys"... nothing would've been wrong. I always win. --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 13:27, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Now now Cornhole, remember what happened last time you said you always win. I don't believe the aura of the wiki was ever so high during that month and a half. -- 13:41, 5 August 2010 (BST)
I do. Me getting banned was a great achievement. I'm very proud of how I unmasked the Jews that day. Hail, CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 14:15, 05 August 2010 (BST)

Indeed, we all need to have admin pages spammed with your thoughts on the links between genetics and IQ. That's entirely relevant. You forgot to mention asians as well. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:13, 5 August 2010 (BST)

Moved to talk page -- boxy talkteh rulz 14:56 5 August 2010 (BST)

User:DanceDanceRevolution

DanceDanceRevolution (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Editing my posts:

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZyckde&diff=1752721&oldid=1752716

Hail, --CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 13:38, 04 August 2010

My my, I did this just this morning on an image that was also obnoxiously large here. Better report me a second time too. Minimising the size on large images on this wiki that other users post is a very common thing, and at a resolution of 1162×864 that definitely fit within the criteria of obnoxiously large compared to some resolutions used by some computers. --

13:52, 4 August 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - he made the image an acceptable size while maintaining it's functionality -- boxy talkteh rulz 13:55 4 August 2010 (BST)

Not vandalism - Good faith edit that occurs countless times. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 14:19, 4 August 2010 (BST)

NV Ta. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:25, 4 August 2010 (BST)

Not Vandalism.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:20, 4 August 2010 (BST)

Yeah. You people are right. I don't know why I really reported him. Wiki is still a Jewish network, and is used by Jews a lot. Same stuff as with that 'The Colonel' guy back then. Then it was 'not vandalism' because he made 'a little schoolboy error'. Now it's 'not vandalism' because it's 'maintenance of the wiki'. It's exactly the same. Jews often hold eachothers a hand above the head; my life's task is unmasking them. WPWW, CORNHLIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 17:28, 04 August 2010

moved to talk page