Talk:Trenchcoater

A confession

I have a Confession to make, I may have been a trenchie in my earlie days of playing UD, I was 15 and it was my first RP I have ever done. Granted, I was more polite than many other trenchies, I was just overly cautious, and had just about no idea how to play.---Scout talk!!! 01:04, 10 September 2010 (BST)

NPOV

At least have the decency to change the colours. :P CITIZEN VI 05:15, 30 July 2009 (BST)

As a proud Wiki Code Stealer, I refuse :P

_{Seriously, if you want to, go ahead. It's a wiki after all} Linkthewindow  Talk  07:34, 30 July 2009 (BST)

I'm just ribbing ya. ;] CITIZEN VI 18:44, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Obvious Piss-Takes

The Trenchcoater page is great, and in particular the list of trenchies is just outstanding... but there are quite a few of them on there which are just complete piss-takes on actual trenchcoaters... Trenchcoat 517 and Christopher Hunt, for example. Should they have their own sub-category? --Blackboard 13:58, 8 September 2008 (BST)

Condemned

Just so you know, im in the process of rebuilding the glossary, and to be blunt, this page falls so far below the standard of every other article here that im pretty much going to burn it to the ground and start over from scratch with a completely new, better and more descriptive glossary worthy article than this farcical entry. When that happens i will be archiving this talk page as well. If you have any complaints or queries, feel free to drop them on my talk page. You have maybe a day to recover whatever you like about the page and put it somewhere else before i finish writing up my new version. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 04:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

What is wrong with it? Too humorous? It gives the basic details of what a trenchcoater is in the opening paragraph, the rest of the article is a humorous expansion on it. Couldn't you just edit that opening paragraph, so that people wanting to know what the term means can get a quick answer? Or abridge the page to that single paragraph, and link to the expanded article? -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:18 7 January 2008 (BST)

I described the nature of the problems with it perfectly clearly. Are you perhaps hard of reading? Elements of the opening paragraph will survive, but most of the entry will be removed as its just one huge derogatory circlejerk. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 12:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Parts of it perhaps are derogatory, but mostly it seems to be laughing with the trenchies... it's not like they're ashamed of their lot in the game -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:56 7 January 2008 (BST)

The article is a glossary article that, in it's etnirety, provides just about no information on what a trenchcoater is, how the term came about, why it came about, why there is such a negative conotation to trenchcoaters in the game, why certain people are deemed trenchcoaters over others, how to spot real trenchcoaters, trenchcoater evolution in how they act and what qualifies them for the term. It's pretty much nothing but insulting users. Sometimes I wonder if you two will argue over anything.--Karek^maps?! 13:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Ugh. Let's just stop the fighting- I've copied the old page in its entirety and moved it into a userpage here. If anyone wants to see it, they can go there. --Boris 18:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The article does contain most of that information though, Karek. The whole "What Trenchcoaters do" section defiantly needs a major overhaul (if not deletion altogether), but other than that, I figure most of it is salvageable with a few judicious edits. Failing that, if you really think that any page with the glossary category on it has to be a dry, bare bones "definition" type page, then I'd move the entire page to a sub-page, and leave the bare bones one at Trenchcoater -- boxy ^{talk • i} 00:44 8 January 2008 (BST)

I am curious to learn the TRUE origin of the term, when they appeared, why and WHY people hate them so much (i DO know that some ar big jerk)! However, there are some insulting content on this page. From time to time, its mean... --The Skritzcoater

Come on. Is deleting part of the Malton culture the answer? I think not. TerminalFailure

It's not deleting part of Malton's culture, the page is going to be replaced and rebuilt, he's just saying that pretty much none of the current original content will be kept. This page horribly misrepresents the term and is being used as a way to insult players some people don't/didn't like, not to describe what a trenchcoater is or what the term really means.--Karek^maps?! 07:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I think that the true definition of Trenchcoating is an attempt to be badass and/or heroic. Sadly, some Trenchie DO fit the stupid stereotype. They farm Mrh?Cow and SPEAK IN CAPS!1!!1!1...

However, i think this page is responsible for the in-game hatred toward Trenchcoater. I mean, seriously..."Wall of Shame", its a bit insulting. The ORGINAL version of the page mention that it IS an insult! Look at the first version, in the page history...

--The Skritzcoater

Sorry im taking so long. I was derailed by recent ongoing drama. Hopefully i will be able to finish the project tomorrow. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 18:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

When is this page going to be updated?--GunFox13 21:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Uhmmmmmmm... how the frigg can you just unilaterally "condemn" and delete this page??? Whatever happened to the way the wiki works, the rules and the procedures and all that??? i actually agree that this pagew has got out of hand ... however, what gives a couple of people the right to just delete it offhand?? unless i missed something during my break from the game... like has there been a vote in deletions that i missed? rules changes? or a proper discussion on the talk page about fixing the article? something like that? ... this is all "highly unusual" .... WanYao 06:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Check Grim's namespace subpages, this is under construction and the version he has partially done there is better than this one by a lot. He's not just wiping the page he's replacing to provide more, and better, information in a more informative manner.--Karek^maps?! 06:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

For the Record

I was both surprised and honored to find myself on your Wall of Shame. I even fixed the misspelling of my name! I would like to point out for the record, however, that my character is named after a samurai who did indeed use a katana. So that's not unoriginal. It's just accurate.Takezo Kensei 22:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Need a new Katana

I just HAD to post this on the talk page! OPerfect if you need a brand new katana because your old one lie broken inside a Feral head!!!

http://www.musashiswords.com/shop/home.php

malton's most complete list of trencies

http://theferalundead.proboards80.com/index.cgi?board=other&action=display&thread=1161267255&page=1 its a 25 page long thread with an assortment of PKers. would somebody mind adding a link of this onto the article section of this page? I have no idea how to insert links..

something

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...oh lordy, this is HILARIOUS. Thanks Katthew. Whoo... MaulMachine 01:28, 12 Jan 2006 (GMT)

This was needed. But is there any such thing as a labcoater? X1M43 16:30, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Frenchcoater! http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=273551 MaulMachine 17:02, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Ha, it seems this description of a clich� spawned it's own spoof. Look at this guy. I was pleased to meet the very granddaddy of all trenchcoaters. Or grandson. Whatever. But it was funny! -- Quacki 8 Feb 2006

How many different sorts of coaters are there?

1. People who are trenchcoaters. [1]
2. People who make fun of trenchcoaters. [2]--Labine50 ^MH|^ME|^P 02:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Haha, that guy was hillarius indeed! Anyway, I never actually heard this before, which was surprising, considering the tons of "trenchcoaters" and all around "badasses" I've met. Jenx 21:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow. This page has had a huge improvement over the last time I saw it. Much better. Especially the pictures. -Mark D. Stroyer ^SoH 23:03, 25 April 2007 (BST)

I find it kinda ironic, this page. By definition, this means that pretty much EVERYONE (or almost-everyone) in UrbanDead is a trenchcoat, or has been a trenchcoat at least once in their UnDead lives. Lol. --Private Mark 05:12, 3 May 2007 (BST)

I'm lovin the new pics! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:05, 8 May 2007 (BST)

This page is hilarious. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:07, 8 May 2007 (BST)

You meant you never say it before?--Vista ⁺¹ 15:10, 8 May 2007 (BST)

You mean saw, right? Nope. Never. This is the first I seen of it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:12, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Well, Sometimes this wiki is like a treasure trove. There is lots of fun stuff around that hardly anybody looks at or even remember.--Vista ⁺¹ 15:21, 8 May 2007 (BST)

I totaly agree. The images help alot as well - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR 14:13, 8 May 2007 (GMT)}

yeah there are heaps of treasres... how about this one? --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 15:25, 8 May 2007 (BST)

Added a new category, hope nobody minds, please add! --Ulysses Black 04:16, 17 June 2007 (BST)

This page is in serious need of a grammatical clean up. Just because the page is about trenchcoaters doesn't mean that it has to sound like it was written by one. --EMAG TRESNI 22:04, 30 June 2007 (BST)

Added a trenchcoater to the Wall of Shame who recently killed me while I was waiting for a revive at a clearly marked revive point. I hope for his sake his profile is meant to be parodic. --Dorian Miller 01:25, 1 July 2007 (BST)

OMG LOL!!!!!Glad I found this... But, I must confess... I am a trenchcoater at least some of the times --ObiFireFighter

Wikicoater

This guy's character profile is non-descript, but on his wiki page [3] he claims he can manufacture assault rifles in game. Does he qualify for the Wall of Shame?--Jiangyingzi 21:51, 7 July 2007 (BST)

Funny but not quite, I'm sure there are better examples elsewhere.--karek 22:41, 7 July 2007 (BST)

This page needs some SERIOUS grammar editing, ppl. --WanYao 04:54, 19 July 2007 (BST)

the grammar is satire, it is widely known that Trenchcoaters don't understand the concept of grammar.--Karek^maps?! 13:50, 19 July 2007 (BST)

well hello there karek! I've included the FU list of stupid survivours :P The man 18:40, 13 August 2007 (BST)

Barricadeing Trenchcoater

An odd phenomenon, but I spotted a what seems to be a trenchcoater, however he barricaded twice during the cycle I saw. super seano

1. A zombie brought down the last of the barricades. (yesterday)
2. super seano said "GUYS EITHER EVACUATE OR SHOOT THE 56 ZEDS OUTSIDE DEAD" (yesterday)
3. super seano began to rebuild the barricades, using a plastic barrier. (yesterday)
4. A zombie brought down the last of the barricades. (yesterday)
5. super seano began to rebuild the barricades, using a plastic barrier. (yesterday)
6. You heard a loud groaning from very close by. (yesterday)
7. super seano said "THERES A ZOMBIE IN HERE SHOOT IT OR GET OUT" (yesterday)

Can this guy be added to the Wall of Shame? --EMAG TRESNI 20:18, 11 July 2007 (BST)

Did he actually right in all caps? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:22, 11 July 2007 (BST)

Yes, yes he did. --EMAG TRESNI 20:32, 11 July 2007 (BST)

For your approval (Wall of Shame candidate)

Encountered this guy [4] in (where else) Caiger Mall. He's got the name, he's in a group that makes you go, "Who?", but the real kicker is of course the description: "Rex believes in overwhelming firepower as the key element for victory. He has strapped guns all over his special ops suit, lots of it: 2 Leone auto shotguns, 2 M4A1, 4 Deagles, and his personal favorite Betty: A customized minigun with grenade launcher." Geez, buddy, compensating for something? Never mind that an unloaded minigun by itself weighs around 130 pounds. Note also that he's level 13 and still hasn't bought Construction.--Jiangyingzi 09:39, 28 July 2007 (BST)

No peer review for this guy? OK, I'm adding him to the main page...if he needs to be removed someone can do it later.--Jiangyingzi 04:34, 31 July 2007 (BST)

An interesting phenomena

Here's kudos to a new breed of Trenchcoater I stumbled across: one who isn't a loud asshole! Also, he got bonus points from me for being a Grue... http://urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=926666 Enjoy the blast from the past. Rook 11:14, 5 August 2007 (BST)

he is a sarcastic trencie. The man 18:38, 13 August 2007 (BST)

I made him as a joke/novelty... lol. --Anotherpongo 19:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Anybody got a problem with adding this to the article, maybe as an introduction?

In the words of Tomn

• Tomn said "My professional opinion is that the virus has retarded communication and logical skills, as well as increasing aggression levels, rendering many unfortunates very angry about something but rarely able to articulate what or why." (9 minutes ago)
• Tomn said "Sadly, most of these people take their confusion out on others in the form of a facefulla buckshot. Also, there's some kinda zombie thing going on, but who cares?" (8 minutes ago)

Another Wikicoater

This guy sadly hasn't provided a profile link. Bet it's a great one. But his page, and the group he runs, are hilarious. Wall of Shame-worthy? -- Bob Fortune 02:48, 15 August 2007 (BST)

I get the impression the Wall is for character profiles only.--Jiangyingzi 23:48, 10 September 2007 (BST)

Wall of Shame

A lot of the trenchies listed on the Wall of Shame are clearly trenchcoater parodies. Any time a character description falls too well in line with the contents of this page someone's probably being ironic. Do intentional parodies of the trenchie stereotype belong on the Wall?--Jiangyingzi 23:47, 10 September 2007 (BST)

New Images?

I do not like this new pic at all. It's low and mean, I'd like to think we are above such ad hominem crap... Ha! Naive, idealistic fool that I am... It is also out of chracter, and I like to think of the wiki as an in-chracter place. What is the consensus on just removing it? The Trenchspotter pic is funny, though... It should be made into a template! --WanYao 22:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Huzzah! I've been pidgeon-holed!

Hehe, alright, apparently I'm a lab-coater! Yay! I've always wanted to put myself in the same category as other drones with near the same profile! http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=452674 Kuang Eleven 19:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Resistance if Futile.--Karek^maps?! 19:32, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

	Pigeon-holer
	This user enjoys placing users into narrow categories.

Not the U.S. Army!

I just wanted to point out that, while Malton may well be in the U.K., that wouldn't eliminate the U.S. Army from being there. In fact, there are a whole lot of our boys stationed in Jolly ol' England. To include a combat brigade and an SF group. That is all -E.F. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mkhgd3 (talk • contribs) 22:18, January 9, 2008.

Take down this page!

This page should be completely deleted, it only serves to insult people by more elitist snobs in this game. If other such pages should be taken down then this one should as well. Garviel Loken 14:20 PST

No. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n} 22:24, 7 April 2008 (BST)

What the man above me said...And where's that new content we were promised? --DT^PK 22:34, 7 April 2008 (BST)

How about yes, if pages that are insulting to one group should be taken down then why should another one that does so stay up? If you're referring to the new content I was talking about I need the information first, I'm not just going to pull it out of my ass.--Garviel Loken 14:41 PST 7 April 2008

Because this page has satire and humor. Other pages are outright insulting. You missed the boat once again. Sadly, I don't think you'll ever leave Dense Island. --Sonny Corleone ^{RRF DORIS MSD MOB pr0n} 22:58, 7 April 2008 (BST)

As king of the trenchcoaters, as decreed by my badassery, trenchcoat, katana, aviator shades, scars and intimidation factor, I say nay. We welcome the attention, it proves we are pwning so much zeds that we are making an impact and we are awesome. BOOM HEADSHOT!!!11!!1!1 --Blanemcc 22:46, 15 October 2008 (BST)

Explaination, Plox.

Just wanted to know how my name ended up here. I had to sign up for an account and everything. Lots of lulz, though. Wasn't aware that this Wiki was anything near ED. --Kenisu Ichojari 06:31, 8 April 2008 (BST)

Disregard. Fixed it myself. I don't have nearly enough shotguns or pistols to be a trenchcoater...and I hand out too many revives. ;) --Kenisu Ichojari 10:14, 8 April 2008 (BST)

NOT HOT FUZZ!

It's a good movie! Don't make fun of it by putting it on THE trenchcoater page!--Rofl. 01:40, 5 June 2008 (BST)

Grammer Fix

I hope you guys don't mind, but I fixed all the grammer errors on the page. I can't possibly see why you WOULD mind, but Stranger things have happened...--Techercizer 05:13, 4 July 2008 (BST)

Trenchie Arbitration

Well I thought there should be a section for dispute and questions about Trenchie status, for instance:

one of my characters has 7 pistols and (about) 8-10 shotguns, but He's pretty low level and just uses them to get his basic EXP. He never goes out healing that needs to be done, is working on getting construction, and has a profile link Here. Is he a Trenchie?

Thank You

This page is full of win, thank you whoever wrote this.

ugh

Characters made specifically to pad the list should be removed from it. Troika 04:13, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove the list of trenchcoaters

Unlike Grim above, I'm fine with the humorous take on trenchcoaters in this article-except for one bit, this "list of trenchies." It's pretty clear that people just throw on people or groups that they don't like. A quick skim of the list finds two well-known groups (Creedy Defense Force and The Imperium) and one smaller group (Shining Crest Mercenary Co.) A quick look through the history finds the Fortress, among others.

So is anyone against me removing the list of trenches, and perhaps just integrating some of the obvious parodies into the main article? Linkthewindow  Talk  23:24, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, I agree with you in principle, except that some of the profiles/comments are effing hilarious. Could you create some sort of archive/subpage for the list and alter the rest of the article? --Blackboard 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree that some of them are quite funny and make my lol. How about removing all the groups, and move the page to Trenchcoater/List? Linkthewindow  Talk  00:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. --Blackboard 01:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Acceptable.--Suicidal Angel - Help needed? 02:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and divide the list further into actual trenchcoaters and satirical trenchcoaters. Eventually. --Blackboard 13:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Shameless advertising

Post here - I'm trying to change the format of this page, discussion takes place at general discussion. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:07, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Robecoater

I've met a lot of trenchcoaters and a few labcoaters, but this guy is the first robecoater:


--Explodey 12:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Just got done reading this

And I have to say, with all apologies, that I'm guilty of playing a "tall" Armycoater with dark red eyes (oh noes!) as part of his zombie description. Since it's already been pointed out that the placement of Malton as in the U.K. does not technically invalidate the possibility of the U.S. Army being there - doubly so given that such a "zombie outbreak" would constitute a threat to global stability - I'll instead focus on my other problem with this list.

It seems like it's going to include those who watch cable TV next.

It's just that amorphous. Half of the entries in the "What Trenchcoaters Do" subsection, and the subsection below it, are more fittingly applied to ill-mannered asses or n00bs who haven't roleplayed anything in their lives: except, that is, at 10 years old; with their friends; and centered around their favorite cartoon or video game. Specifically, things like "BOOM HEADSHOT!","FUCK YOU PKer! (said 50 times)", or "SHOOP DA WOOP!" Also, I've been defending areas of the map that have been attacked for prolonged periods by more zombies than can be seen inside at one time. Why should it be taboo to let everyone know the combined strength of the force approaching, when they're still some squares away?

While it's good for laughs, and I got a nice kick out of seeing some of the entries on the trenchcoater list that are just too dumb for words (Bradley M243, anyone?) I think there are more than a few places where "trenchcoating" and legitimate RP end up mixing. I am the sole member of my Urban Dead group, for example, but the 173rd Airborne is all too real. I wouldn't consider it out of the realm of possibility for survivalists to group together in a "*-Militia", nor to see those with newly-minted scars in an area enduring a catastrophe.

Which brings me to my next point, what you won't see. Of course, some idiot carrying around 20 shotguns and a RPG in the event of a real zombie invasion is out of the question. But to be fair, you won't see a panicked 120-pound college student hefting five pistols and four shotguns either.

Lastly, I have no problem with "epic speech" on a profile as long as it doesn't look like Bubbles the Chimp wrote it up.

Done nao. Douglas Summers 00:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I've been trying to change the format of this page for a while - I reached a compromise a while ago, but meh. Your response is pretty much the main reason why I want tihs page fixed - humor articles don't belong in the mainspace. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)