User talk:Linkthewindow

I had a question.

Well this User:Grimblackreeper has a talk page, but no user page. It was recently made, I think February, and there's no log of deletion for the User Page. Here is the page I stumbled on, and I was wondering what to do with it, put it up for speedy delete, or what cause of action should be followed?

Oh and another question, do you know how to configure an auto update for the UDTool? I'm really stumped and can't seem to figure it out. Any help would be much appreciated Link, thanks. -- Denver ^5MoC 06:39, 7 April 2009 (BST)

As for the user talk page, it doesn't really matter. Quite a few users have a {{WN}} posted on their user talk page, even when they don't have a user page. So, just leave it for now :).

I've done autoupdatable lists before. They aren't easy to do, but if you've got a large group, then they will save you some time.

You could try having a look at the zerg list (I stole my code of them,) and trying to figure it out that way.

I don't really have the time now for a detailed guide, but if you've got any specific questions, fire away. Linkthewindow Talk 10:21, 7 April 2009 (BST)

Yeah, I can't really think of any I'm just hammering away at it. Oh, I can't seem to get the Text Rapist auto update to work on the FANNY/Ignore List. I already have the zerg liste auto update, but the ignore list isn't working for me. Does it work for you?

On a side note, I saw that you did the wiki info on Kevan's April Fools joke, do you need more screen shots of different location? Since I was in a Train Station and I took and iwitness here. Completely random, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. -- Denver ^5MoC 17:19, 8 April 2009 (BST)

The Ignore List doesn't have an autoupdater, but it doesn't usually get updated the amount the Zerg Liste does.

Oh, and I'll throw that on the April Fools page when I'm less tired. It would be nice to have one from each location. Linkthewindow Talk 08:24, 9 April 2009 (BST)

Yes it does at, the bottom underneath the "UDTool List" heading it says,"To have UDTool automatically update this list, include the following code in your UDTool list" and then it gives you a code, which I can't seem for the life of me to get to work. I just have it all working manually, I think I'm gonna keep it that way for now. :P -- Denver ^5MoC 16:19, 9 April 2009 (BST)

Entirely off topic, I hope you don't mind Link. But I couldn't help stalking the RC and notice that this fellow has attempted to use a derivative of my name. D:< -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 07:17, 24 June 2009 (BST)

More importantly it's a derivative of Grim's name. More a fusion of the 2 names i'd say.--x o x o 07:20, 24 June 2009 (BST)

Moved from User:Linkthewindow/Chatbox/Messages

WHY? ;__; --Janus ^talk 00:14, 7 April 2009 (BST)

Ah, that sucks errors. Try uploading it under a different name. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:18, 7 April 2009 (BST)

You mean without the tilde? --Janus ^talk 00:32, 7 April 2009 (BST)

I'm not sure if that's the problem, but it should fix it. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:36, 7 April 2009 (BST)

Worked. Thanks :) --Janus ^talk 00:51, 7 April 2009 (BST)

Indenting breaks it :|. Linkthewindow Talk 08:26, 7 April 2009 (BST)

Oops! Sorry! :/-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 18:53, 7 April 2009 (BST)

D: Sorry Link. --Janus ^talk 00:49, 9 April 2009 (BST)

New User Template

You probably don't like other people putting these headings on your thing, but I thought it was necessary... Anyway, I wanted to know if my template for new users [[1]] could be added to the help section. I think it could. New users would be able to right away use this stuff to create their own custom page, and that may entice them to be more active. --The Shoemaker ^Talk^{Red Faction} 00:38, 9 April 2009 (BST)

A new game

"Spambit Hunters", whoever catches the most spambits in the next few months wins a prize! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:50, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Sounds like a plan. Someone tell Cheese (who's probably lucking RC anyway >.<). Linkthewindow Talk 08:52, 11 April 2009 (BST)

He'll see this. I'm on one, so are you and I think Axe or Ross got the original one. If Asdxiao comes back, lets just make it soley him as the target! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:54, 11 April 2009 (BST)

You rang? =p -- C h e e s e 08:57, 11 April 2009 (BST)

New competition! Only for the daring! Stop the Asdxiao spambit machines once and for all! Correction, it was Rooster who is on one point. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:59, 11 April 2009 (BST)

I'm in. And we'll need a suitably epic page to show how awesomely dangerous and spectacular our mission is. I'm thinking Spambit Hunters. -- C h e e s e 09:03, 11 April 2009 (BST)

I'm going out onto the town but when I come back into the early hours of the morning I may just be able to make that, as well as use my DRUNK status template. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:14, 11 April 2009 (BST)

I'm about halfway through doing it just now. =p I've got very little else to do today. No work till tomorrow. -- C h e e s e 09:17, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Heh. I'm so bored, I've started playing Runescape again :P. Linkthewindow Talk 09:24, 11 April 2009 (BST)

You should go play KoL It's rather good. =) -- C h e e s e 09:26, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Well, we've got our template:

	Spambit Hunter
	This user hunts spambits for fun and profit.

-- Linkthewindow Talk 09:29, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Added. -- C h e e s e 09:42, 11 April 2009 (BST)

The fight continues in-game (Incidentally, I'm in the same building as one of DDR's alts.) Linkthewindow Talk 09:46, 11 April 2009 (BST)

You sad, sad people...wait a sec...I'm in the lead. Awesome! -- Rooster Dragon 14:55, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Just wait until I find proof showing that when I first started here, I found over 15 spambits in 3 days. I'll be in the lead then.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:39, 11 April 2009 (BST)

You know my alts?! :( By the way, wasn't it just ASDXIAO? either way is good. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:05, 11 April 2009 (BST)

According to the Spambit page it's any. Besides, eventually this spambit will run out. If we include them all we can just tally them up at the end of a period of time. Funner that way, and we can do this more than once.

Wait a minute, YOU were the six character bot?!? I must ban you now!--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:15, 11 April 2009 (BST)

Stop tempting me to spam poor Link's talk page! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:38, 11 April 2009 (BST)

No YOU stop tempting to spam poor link's page! ;) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 17:48, 11 April 2009 (BST)

deletions log said:

Boxy (Talk | contribs) (deleted "Your user name or IP address has been blocked by Linkthewindow.": spimbot created page)

I think Boxy may have just created his own new group. Rivals to the spambit hunters... D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:18, 18 April 2009 (BST)

Ohnoes! Quick! Spam their talk page with our "allies!"

If it wasn't really obvious, I was being sarcastic, and don't advocate spamming Linkthewindow Talk 07:56, 18 April 2009 (BST)

RUNESCAPE

OMG seriously though whats your username D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:43, 11 April 2009 (BST)

ZOMG CAPS!!!! Seriously though, it's Dayking321 (don't ask >.>) Linkthewindow Talk 15:52, 11 April 2009 (BST)

mine is Kiedis RHCP. dont ask. just look at my dusty 50+ authentic cd collectionn of xhili peppers, of all things. llets play now yo? WHAT WORLD D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:04, 11 April 2009 (BST)

omg world 144! I know cause I just added you! Seriously though, why did I log back into this dust-ridden account? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:07, 11 April 2009 (BST)

And by the way, did you see him? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:38, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Yep, sure have :D. Linkthewindow Talk 15:06, 20 April 2009 (BST)

Good. Hoping he wouldn't ever let you down. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:07, 20 April 2009 (BST)

A/D

Just incase you forgot. [2] D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:09, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Thanks. Linkthewindow Talk 14:13, 28 April 2009 (BST)

Also: did this make you laugh as much as me?

Also: Get ready for the manhunt, you have 2 months! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:39, 29 April 2009 (BST)

Got a quick minute for some unnecessary archival? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:04, 9 May 2009 (BST)

'Outing' you

So far my post has been removed, I've been reported for vandalism (which nobody bothered to tell me about), I've been warned and now the warning has been retracted. My question is did you interpret it as a joke, which was how it was intended, and if so do you have any issue if I undo the removal? (with a small alteration to ensure people realise who this is directed at and that it is indeed a joke) --Roorgh 18:03, 29 April 2009 (BST)

Link always knew it was a joke... But no one else did. We (including me) thought it was purely aimed at Callista, and no, you can't put it back up, Boxy said on your case that you shouldn't pretend to give out personal details either. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:42, 1 May 2009 (BST)

Yeah (sorry for the late reply, I seem to have forgotten about this.) Anyway, yeah, I knew it was a joke. I laughed at the stupidity of it. But DDR's right, for those that don't know me (it's common knowledge that I'm Australian,) it could be seen as serious, and since people seem to think it was aimed at Cali (especially considering post-Twitter thing,) it's a bit too far, and crosses the line. Personal information is something that one should be very careful about revealing - even as a joke. Linkthewindow Talk 13:45, 1 May 2009 (BST)

Wait a second...

If you're australian, what is this abomination!?! --x o x o 06:28, 16 May 2009 (BST)

Since when did Australians unanimously find penises funny? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:33, 16 May 2009 (BST)

burn --Cyberbob 08:35, 16 May 2009 (BST)

Eh?? Oh, lol. No, i meant the way he spelled humour...--x o x o 08:44, 16 May 2009 (BST)

Damn my biased spellchecker >:( Linkthewindow Talk 09:35, 16 May 2009 (BST)

Your promotion

Congrats!--Dr Mycroft Chris 23:30, 21 May 2009 (BST)

Indeed. --

Rooster Dragon

16:30, 22 May 2009 (BST)

Fuck the word "indeed". It's become an outlet for arrogant shitstains to express "goodwill" without having to be at all warm about it. Well, them and aspies. --Cyberbob 16:32, 22 May 2009 (BST)

I think you might need a cup of tea, Bob. --

Rooster Dragon

16:48, 22 May 2009 (BST)

It's about 2am. --Cyberbob 16:54, 22 May 2009 (BST)

So...coffee? :) --

Rooster Dragon

16:59, 22 May 2009 (BST)

Congrats Link. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 20:32, 22 May 2009 (BST)

Durr

Dhavid Grohl said:

We have been accused of Text Rape, Zerging, and even Griefing.

Ha ha ha ha ha. The man knows his priorities. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:52, 22 May 2009 (BST)

Question

I am wondering if you are in the Arkham area? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robert Egleton (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

No, I'm not (and don't forget to add new posts at the bottom.) Linkthewindow Talk 02:58, 23 May 2009 (BST)

user page redirect

ok - didn't know that was an issue. thanks for clearing it up then. BTW - what was the issue with user page redirects? --Betamaxx ^◆◆◆ 11:46, 25 May 2009 (BST)

It's a scheduled deletion (vote) which means that sysops can delete the page out-of-hand without having to go to deletions or speedy deletions. Basically - around the turn of last year, there was a whole heap of drama over user page redirects. The Wiki can be like that some times. Linkthewindow Talk 13:39, 25 May 2009 (BST)

"Promontions"

Get rid of the R. --Cyberbob 08:13, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Thanks. Linkthewindow Talk 08:16, 27 May 2009 (BST)

ffffffff I don't know what I was thinking when I said that - keep the R and drop the N instead >_> --Cyberbob 08:51, 27 May 2009 (BST)

I actually thought you were saying that as a clever joke. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:53, 27 May 2009 (BST)

I wish you'd said so before I corrected myself - I would've gone with it --Cyberbob 12:11, 27 May 2009 (BST)

Request

I know you've been trying all day by the looks of it, but IRC? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:17, 28 May 2009 (BST)

What is the UD irc info again?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:31, 28 May 2009 (BST)

#udwiki Linkthewindow Talk 13:33, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Or if you don't have an IRC client installed, you can connect via Mibbit. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 13:50, 28 May 2009 (BST)

MIBBIT! --x o x o 08:20, 29 May 2009 (BST)

Everyone should just use Xchat. That way I never have to hear about other IRC clients ever again.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:53, 28 May 2009 (BST)

<DanceDanceRevolution> let that boy in! Linkthewindow Talk 13:34, 28 May 2009 (BST)

Rule on my A/VB case. I want it closed.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:44, 31 May 2009 (BST)

What's the magic word? --Cyberbob 16:02, 31 May 2009 (BST)

I'm an impatient cunt?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:11, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Damn it Link, you said you'd take care of it with or without my input. >:( --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:17, 16 June 2009 (BST)

>.>

<.< --Ricket 09:19, 3 June 2009 (BST)

D:

Oh my. "[user] is watching"-style floating messages.? Well, I'm not watching anyone, but the nav is still floating. Give me a shout and I'll delete it.

nice field trip at Anselm --Janus ^talk 14:15, 3 June 2009 (BST)

Greetings.

Myself, Rosslessness, DanceDanceRevolution, and Hashk's Julie Marsh have started a group. War Buddies Militia in Peddlesden. Currently a ghosttown. I am trying to get all the pro-survivor's I know to join. Ross is is starting a new character to join. Maybe you could join has one of your current players or start a new one like Ross? I would really like it if you joined. If not that's fine. --Robert Egleton 00:26, 14 June 2009 (BST)

No, sorry, at the moment I'm out of IP hits with the three I'm running (all of which are already grouped.) :( Linkthewindow Talk 02:27, 14 June 2009 (BST)

The offer is open always. --Robert Egleton 14:53, 14 June 2009 (BST)

Hollomstown Barricade Plan

Here we go again. Doesn't he have to make an announcement somewhere? On the burb page, perhaps? --Paddy Dignam^{IS DEAD} 22:32, 14 June 2009 (BST)

He should do, on the main Hollomstown page. I've done it for him now. Linkthewindow Talk 07:23, 15 June 2009 (BST)

Redundant Disclaimer

I've been looking at my archived promotion bid here, and the disclaimer bothers me.

It asks that the page not be edited, yet surely the fact that these bids are Protected from editing shortly after being created (and thus, impossible to be edited by anyone other than SysOps) shows that this disclaimer is not overly necessary.

As the SysOps are the only ones with the power, wouldn't it make more sense to warn them during the archival process? Granted, the disclaimer in its current state does not harm the wiki in any way, however anything which makes the matter clearer wouldn't hurt either, and would be an improvement.

If there is any reason why the disclaimer is the way that it is that I may have missed, then I would be glad to hear it. I'm just wondering why the page warns against doing something that is impossible.

I was thinking about taking this to Policy Discussion, but I thought I'd ask a current SysOp and see if I can get some answers before I pursue the 'official' path of inquiry. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 11:31, 19 June 2009 (BST)

I've got no idea - it was created before the history purge - it's old, and perhaps predates when sysops realize that they could protect things?

Ether way, there can occasionally be quite a gap between the actual archiving of the page (often done by a regular user,) and the protection (done when a sysop realizes it needs protection.) That's probably why the template is worded the way it is. Linkthewindow Talk 11:35, 19 June 2009 (BST)

I may be off the mark cause I've had a few beers, but firstly, as Link. Secondly, Sysop's don't need to be warned not to edit protected archives because its common knowledge, knowledge that a sysop would have to know, had they made the position. Even the dumbest sysop would know that protected archives are done so for a reason. No point making a template for a public archive warning sysops not to protect it, and on one else. Just last week I went and protected archives arbitration cases from 2 or 3 years ago that sysops hadn't protected. Just an example of how things can be missed. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:56, 19 June 2009 (BST)

Warning sysops not to *edit it, sorry. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:35, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Oh, OK then. I just bugged me, as all. I wasn't aware regular users were permitted to archive promotion bids. I thought that, being an admin page, that SysOps were only permitted to do it. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 01:28, 20 June 2009 (BST)

RE: Edit to the Danger Building page

Allow me to thank you for the welcome and I can assure you that these danger reports will serve their purpose in time with a helpful project that I am in the mere first stages of (well more of a prototype than a project).

In response to your initial question, there are two reasons that I removed the information:

Firstly, was that the group Black Mesa has not existed on the wiki for sometime.
Secondly and most importantly,I was under the impression that UDWiki:Location Style Guide was applicable for all location pages.

I understand your concerns and respect your authority on these matters, however, I would like a second opinion on this subject or a link to a page that supports what you have previously stated. This request is not made from any contempt for you or the rules, it is just that I am now confused with local editing practices. I will gladly halt the editing of the Urban Dead wiki until this matter is clarified (so as not to make the same mistake twice).--Matthew Kuper 15:20, 20 June 2009 (BST)

I see your points. But, what if a two groups are trying to claim the same location as their own? Or, a groups location page conflicts with role play flavor of that location (i.e. The Danger Family). Are group locations first come first serve or a messy free-for-all? I guess I have questions of group/location legitimacy issues rather than humor issues (of which I completely understand).

Perhaps an easy solution would be to create The Danger Family as trenchies.

I would like to thank you for all your help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matthew Kuper (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

There have been issues regarding who owns a group page in the past. It's usually solved through arbitration. Linkthewindow Talk 16:06, 20 June 2009 (BST)

Ah, what a useful program.--Matthew Kuper 16:49, 20 June 2009 (BST)

Are you related the people named DrunkLink25000 etc? I doubt it but then i thought maybe...--x o x o 07:11, 24 June 2009 (BST)

No, I've never heard of him before the past few days. Linkthewindow Talk 13:02, 1 July 2009 (BST)

My suggestion

"we need a "ban assholes" button first ;)" - One of the same, amirite? --Haliman - Talk 05:15, 1 July 2009 (BST)

I guess. Bob's needed around here, however ;) Linkthewindow Talk 05:17, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Yep. --Haliman - Talk 05:17, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Don't know about you, but when TOC is open, your 'rules' box gets comically squished and becomes almost unreadable. But more to the point, I would like you to invest some effort into this conversation, it could be just me but I think we just hit a major blow on the mystery of the ghost images. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:37, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Gah, the fact that I've got a massive screen strikes again! It appears fine on my display, but that's because I've got a ExtendoWide_tm display. I'll do something about it later (probably notoc.) Thanks, and I'm checking the other thing now. Linkthewindow Talk 13:00, 1 July 2009 (BST)

A decent alternative would be to just shorten some headers, particularly the "Moved from User:Linkthewindow/Chatbox/Messages" one, as you can see the same applies to my page, but I'm trying to find a way to work around it without being called a vandal, as the longer headers are generally most of the comments. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:03, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Works fine for me. Maybe you could force the contents to appear within the sidebar? --

Rooster Dragon

16:50, 1 July 2009 (BST)

You also have said wide monitor. Btw, link, ily. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:03, 4 July 2009 (BST)

And it looks like this. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:06, 4 July 2009 (BST)

fix'd. Gj. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:14, 4 July 2009 (BST)

REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Anti-Bureaucracy
	This user hates bureaucracy and encourages wiki-revolution!

DOWN WITH THE CRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --Imthatguy 17:58, 3 July 2009 (BST)

THIS IS MADNESS --Skouth 18:00, 3 July 2009 (BST)

Rebel without a clue Linkthewindow Talk 00:17, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Listen You

I'm going to tell you the same thing I've told Boxy and everyone else: Leave me the hell alone. I'm not causing you or anyone else any grief, so why must you always hunt me down like a worthless animal? Its not fair, I was always unjustly banned by Grim and even now that he's been proven a fascist freak like I always pointed out, I'm still here having to sneak on using a multitude of socks just to update my group page. Its pissing me off and if I'm going to continue to be treated like a vandal, then a vandal is what you'll get. Leave me alone and you won't even notice me. Its obvious by now you can't stop me anyway. And Suicidal Angel promised he'd take action to make this right. Can't I be given a fair chance, especially now that Grim's judgement has been proven unsound?

I await a REPLY, not a banning. If you have any honor you'll at least give me that much. Angelfood Cake 03:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Boxy said:

As I said here, "Izumi has always been a "real" vandal, editing group pages, other people's posts, even after plenty of warnings, and then comes back after the ban and does the exact same thing again, and when she gets done for it, as she had to, she starts spamming the forum with dozens of alt accounts. She's not someone who we want back, given that the first bloody thing she did was vandalise the wiki again with throw away accounts. Don't encourage her, FFS"

And if you're here to whine about Grim - I'm one of the few post-Grim sysops, so there's not much point. Linkthewindow Talk 03:19, 5 July 2009 (BST)

You're also one of the post Izumi users, so you don't know the entire story. I'm serious when I say this, it wasn't all her fault. It was also part of the past ops team the way she turned out.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:55, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Are you going to talk to me, person to person, or simply ignore me? Have some decency. If you agree I promise to to edit any other area than your talk page until you hear me out, then you can ban me if you still feel its necessary. Can you please hear me out? Celestial Runeseeker 05:19, 5 July 2009 (BST)

If you're serious about having an audience with a sysop, email SA or another sysop who you think may be fair (not me since I hardly know the full story and am simply doing my responsibility under policy.) Don't spam the wiki up with over 9000 alt accounts and troll people. It's hardly helping your case. Linkthewindow Talk 05:41, 5 July 2009 (BST)

That's pretty much what I said. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 05:51, 5 July 2009 (BST)

She wouldn't have nearly as much reason to be mad at the admin team if the past team had acted maturely and in a more correct manner. She's tried emailing me, seeing as I'm one of the older users who actually knows whats going on, but the attempts I made failed because everyone just blindly seemed to want to follow boxy's opinion on the matter. But that was way before this latest spree. I kept trying, but it's hard to work with someone who loses it too easily and starts pulling this shit. I really don't have the time or patience to deal with this anymore. About the best that can happen is Izumi either stops trying to come back, or she waits and makes an account with the same name as one of her team members and uses it. We can't just outright ban all of the Valkyries under the suspicion that it may be Izumi, but I doubt she's going to be patient enough to do that.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:21, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Angel, you don't understand. I didn't want to do it this way either. But I've been waiting for nearly 3 years. I couldn't sit idle anymore. So I tried emailing Boxy. Here's his reply: "I'm sure you actually believe that you're the one being reasonable in all this. Now stop emailing me, and go annoy someone who actually thinks you are worth having back on the wiki. Surely one of them has their email link activated on the wiki." Martyr 01:29, 6 July 2009 (BST)

You know boxy isn't going to make a move to work with you. You know that. But now you have to know that yet again you created multiple harassive accounts instead of working with me to push the idea of you coming back. I tried to help you yet again last time, what happens? You up and disappear. I can't help you if you won't talk, and you've shown me time and time again the moment you get banned you bring out the sock machine. You keep asking for help, yet you keep doing these things that show that you don't care about the consequences. I can't help you if you're going to keep this shit up. "Linkthedildo"? Was that even fucking necessary? You didn't have to do that. I absolutely can not and will not help you because you have shown me time and time again that there is no point, because you can't simply keep from jumping in hot. You think you're not going to be banned by the people who are just following rules when you blatantly broadcast who you are? You think being antagonistic yet again is going to help? No, it's you who doesn't understand. Most of us could tolerate giving a former vandal a chance to redeem themselves, but few of us will freely give that chance to people who are still committing vandalism. Fucking with Bob's page? Sure he's a dick. But that's still vandalism and you know it. There is nothing any of us can do when you're clearly vandalizing, and to be frank none of us really want to help anymore.

Also, before you start claiming how we're all assholes and just want to hunt you down, remember that I've tried to help you on multiple occasions. Remember that quite a few users are just trying to follow the rules the best they can in a situation where they can't know everything due to a history purge. Remember that some of those that are in the know have tried to refer you to the right people. Izumi, you fucked up again. Follow my god damn advice for once and stop with the alts. They're doing nothing but digging your hole deeper and you know it.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:55, 6 July 2009 (BST)

"You know boxy isn't going to make a move to work with you."

Quite the contrary. I made many polite and helpful emails to her over the years, 3 of them in the past few days telling her what she needed to do to get back, before finally sending her one telling her to stop emailing me, long after it became clear that she was just going to continue demanding to be let back her way -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:19 6 July 2009 (BST)

And I had no idea that you've done so. What I said was based off of what I knew and/or remembered, most of that came from her, and all she's ever said is how little you were trying to help her. I apologize Mr. bawxman.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:38, 6 July 2009 (BST)

S'ok, I was pretty sure she'd be quoting my email out of context sooner or later, because she threatened to post that bit in her last email to me -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:50 6 July 2009 (BST)

'Scuse me, but if I may interject...and I'm going to anyway, Boxy, you should be ashamed. You did not oh-so-helpfully give me pointers as you claim to have done in your above statement. You told me to find another sysop to help me, which I have done, after of course scolding me for making alts. Then you told me to stop emailing you. Here's the conversation in its entirety:

I'm sure you actually believe that you're the one being reasonable in all this.

Now stop emailing me, and go annoy someone who actually thinks you are worth having back on the wiki. Surely one of them has their email link activated on the wiki.

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 04:43:18 -0700 From: windphoenix7@yahoo.com Subject: RE: The Urban Dead Wiki e-mail To: box_headed@hotmail.com

Well honestly I've never had to throw one before. Usually people listen to reason, not arbitrary bureaucratic nonsense. At any rate how am I supposed to motivate the community to do anything if I cannot even speak with them? Can't I have some sort of account that is limited to a talk page, or something? That way I could at least speak with SuicidalAngel.

--- On Sun, 7/5/09, boxy h <box_headed@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: boxy h <box_headed@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: The Urban Dead Wiki e-mail To: windphoenix7@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 3:34 AM

Do tantrums usually work for you?

I've told you how to go about it. It's not up to me, but the community. That's if anyone is even willing to put their arse on the line to start a policy discussion on your behalf, after the shit you continually pull.

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 02:29:11 -0700 From: windphoenix7@yahoo.com Subject: RE: The Urban Dead Wiki e-mail To: box_headed@hotmail.com

Has it occured to you that maybe I got in over my head and now I'm trying to repent for them? I'm sorry I didn't listen, but now my options are limited. My words may be worthless to you but I assure you they are sincere. Do you really think if I was given a chance to have my account ban lifted, even as part of some sort of probabtionary period, I would do anything to jeopardize it?

--- On Sun, 7/5/09, boxy h <box_headed@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: boxy h <box_headed@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: The Urban Dead Wiki e-mail To: windphoenix7@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 2:16 AM

What I'm referring to is that before Grim even got involved, I had an email discussion with you and clearly warned you of the consequences of continued vandalism. You ignored that, instead choosing to use a sock puppet to avoid my short (48hr) ban.

You keep saying you'll change, but your actions speak louder than your words, which have become worthless, to me.

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 02:09:10 -0700 From: windphoenix7@yahoo.com Subject: RE: The Urban Dead Wiki e-mail To: box_headed@hotmail.com

I don't see to what you are referring, "being reasonable with me". Using socks is the only option I've ever had, and that's to simply be heard, not to get away with anything else. Whatever "threats" I may have made, you and I both know I can't truly accomplish anything of meaning using sockpuppets alone. My only intention always has been to convince the community I'm not a threat. My frustration pushes me in other directions at times, but I assure you I only want to come back so I can update the Lockettside Valkyries and Lockettside suburb pages when necessary. You are a sysop. The "options" you speak of are illusions. You are one of a few with any real authority, if you used it to do what is right here I doubt anyone would complain. In fact, in my experience onlyyou and cyberbob ever had any real problem with me, other than of course Grim, and we all see now how much his opinions mean.

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From: boxy h <box_headed@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: The Urban Dead Wiki e-mail To: windphoenix7@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 1:33 AM

I tried being reasonable with you 2 years ago, and all you did was come back to the wiki and commit exactly the same type of vandalism again, and then go on your sock puppet spree when caught.

Threatening to constantly vandalise the wiki to make us forget your past isn't going to get me to let you back. If someone make a policy discussion asking for you to be allowed back, and the community shows that they are prepared to give you another chance, then I will respect that, otherwise I have no option but to enforce current policy.

> To: box_headed@hotmail.com > Subject: The Urban Dead Wiki e-mail > From: windphoenix7@yahoo.com > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:16:37 +0100 > > Its time we had a talk. I want to know exactly what you have against me returning to the wiki to mind my own business in good faith after a two year ban. I want one GOOD (not arbitrary or BS) reason how this would hurt the wiki as a whole. I want to know why you can't accept the fact that I'm harmless to the wiki. As long as I am welcomed back I wont even do anything that MIGHT be viewed as vandalism. Only when I am labeled as a vandal am I a threat. Please learn this quickly so we can all get on with our lives. I'm sick of forsaking an honest solution for endless drama. I fail to see why you are not. > > Regards, > > -Izumi

Martyr 07:05, 6 July 2009 (BST)

You're right. I have screwed up. Its just so frustrating...you can't possibly understand. You have to know that I'm honestly trying to do the right thing. All I want is for all this bad stuff to go away but its so hard...few people have been willing to listen to me from the beginning...I sent emails to countless people, sysops that don't even exist anymore...Hagnat, Karek...just to name a few. Most wouldn't even reply. I've been trying to find the right way to go about this...but I lose my temper and do stupid shit, and wind up back at square one. No, Linkthedildo was not necessary. But when someone is ignoring your pleas for help and continually swinging the banhammer...even if they are simply following protocol...it gets annoying ya know? I just want to know what I can do to make this go away. I waited for you last time like you said, but nothing happened. I can't wait forever...Martyr 02:04, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Karek is probably the one of the best sysops we've ever had. The biggest problem he had with your situation is that you'd create socks that were vandals, not the socks themselves. Hagnat was part of the admin team that I've stated before to be lacking. I've put a vote, because we have precedence for things like that now. This is the last time I'm involving myself with this affair, after the vote is done, I'm done.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:14, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Stafam

Problem comes from not being able to log into the original Stafam page. Seems I made my password so good not even I can remember it. Also, I can't seem to get the redirect to work at all. --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 12:00, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Have you tried having your password emailed to you? Either way one of those pages is going to have to be deleted. I would guess that you would prefer using your old account but if you can't get back into it, it will have for all intents and purposes ceased to exist and its page will be deleted. --Cyberbob 12:15, 5 July 2009 (BST)

I see no problem with him redirecting to a new page if he's lost his password and cant get it back. That way people can still find him from his old sigs and contributions -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 10:27 6 July 2009 (BST)

Wait, are you trying to say he can't make a redirect from his old page to his new one?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:30, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Why would he? --Cyberbob 02:27, 6 July 2009 (BST)

There's a few reasons. Like if they forgot their account, but want their edits to be shown as theirs. Or when people go to ask the guy a question, they're asking the right account. Just a few little reasons, and it's been done before to top it off.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:34, 6 July 2009 (BST)

I know that this #REDIRECT [[User:{{subst:Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam}}]] is what I need, however it just seems to link to an image on the old page instead of redirecting to the new, or simply prints that exact text on the page. Is the existence of ' in my username causing the problem, or am I just too stupid to format it correctly?--Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 10:02, 6 July 2009 (BST)

---Sadly the email password option isn't...an option. I would indeed prefer to use my old account since that is where all of my edits have come from. But as there is no way of getting the password back, and despite my efforts I can't format the redirect correctly (anyone feel like helping there?) I seem to have run out of options.--Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 00:58, 6 July 2009 (BST)

You know, I had a problem where I forgot my password once, for this account in fact, and I asked to have it emailed to me via the system, and it never sent it to me. I check my spam folder and everything.... -Poodle of doom 02:24, 6 July 2009 (BST)

You could try emailing Kevan and asking him really really nicely. I don't know whether he has the ability to reset wiki passwords but it's worth a shot I guess. --Cyberbob 02:27, 6 July 2009 (BST)

I doubt that's possible Bob. Passwords are usually encrypted so they can't even be read by the owner (but I've got no idea about wiki passwords, so I could be wrong.) Linkthewindow Talk 03:52, 6 July 2009 (BST)

He's able to change ingame passwords if you think someone's cracked yours. --Cyberbob 10:15, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Problem solved. Thanks to all who helped --Jason 'Fock'n' Stafam 11:33, 11 July 2009 (BST)

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Im looking at completely revamping the zombie skills page. Mainly because I don't like it. I was thinking about retaining the existing main page, but making each skill its own sub page, so we can drop a lot of the stuff on the one huge page into individual stuff. Something like Feeding Groan in Detail All existing links would redirect to the main page, but it would be more of a hub. Have a look at my sandbox, where I've mocked up the initial pages and let me know what you think. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 12:28, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Sounds like a good idea. Also that we'll be able to add new information on individual skills without having to worry about spamming up one main page. Linkthewindow Talk 12:40, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Well when the ruin entry makes no mention of decay you realise how out of date it all is. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 12:47, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Thanks for the 24 hour ban on I'mthatguy

No seriously,..... thank you! -Poodle of doom 18:24, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Please type it right --Imthatguy 01:23, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Why don't you come over here and make me.... :P !!!! -Poodle of doom 01:38, 6 July 2009 (BST)

>=D --Imthatguy 01:45, 6 July 2009 (BST)

What ever dude... -Poodle of doom 02:33, 6 July 2009 (BST)

??? i didnt mean anything bad by my >=D --Imthatguy 02:37, 6 July 2009 (BST)

noob question

Really...a nooob question..I edit my personal info here and apear on recent changes. So the question is. Can i make something to change freely and dont full the recent changes with my changes or i need to change a lot of things at same time? understand the idea? to not put a full the list of changes with my because i dont want to be annoyng..thanks--(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 18:10, 8 July 2009 (BST)

so you're wanting to make a bunch of changes without it showing up on Recent Changes? The easiest way to do that is top make an edit or two to something, and then instead of hitting save, click show preview. It'll show you what your changes look like, and you can just keep editing and adding to it until you're done. That help?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:25, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Thanks for the reply...yeah that i know but sometimes i need to close and later edit again...so that is going to be in "recent changes".Sometimes i am editing 1 of my alt and i need to close to edit the other alt information or my group information.So the only form is to make a change and wait for others to make changes so i cant be anoyng no? thanks for the reply suicidalangel.--(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 13:34, 9 July 2009 (BST)

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