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JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz
Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ ☉ |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. -- 14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
User:Sister Mary
moved from main page
Blanked User talk:Sniper4625 - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ Sniper4625 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 23:37 June 3 2018.
- Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC).
- -- LABIA on the INTERNET Dunell Hills Corpseman #24 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 00:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --Dragonshardz (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. Swissaboo (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Adding onto this, in their protection request they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. Swissaboo (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sure you meant WIKI LAW when you said RULES. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) Sister Mary (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D Sister Mary (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)
- Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. Sniper4625 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
- Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. Sniper4625 (talk) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
- You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 02:22, 4 June 2018.
Vandalism and a Warning. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. —Aichon— 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --Dragonshardz (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talk • contribs) 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC).
Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.---- FoD PK Praise Rando!06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
User: Revenant
Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? A ZOMBIE ANT 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? ЯЭV€NΛИ† ||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
User:The Goth Store Owner
*snif* *snif* I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --hagnat 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page? Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --KCLZA 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
So quiet
* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *
What happened to this place ? --hagnat 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for reminding me to drop the DramaLevel. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! -- Spiderzed▋ 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
- I think you can update the DramaLevel to the lesser level of drama. This place is so quiet. --hagnat 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Bots Discussion
Return of old, already banned, bots
Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)
Hmm
It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, like acne. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, like acne. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Bots Discussion
Return of old, already banned, bots
Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)
Hmm
It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, like acne. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, like acne. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
March 2010
Saromu (2)
For spamming up A/M with silly little cases simply because we voted Not Vandalism on a case he brought. Just making frivolous misconduct cases and arguing on them till the death, just to cause drama. --
22:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- You think I'm being silly? Obviously you do not care about rules. The Guidelines of this wiki state that Sysops are above wiki rules and are held to the same standard, the only exception being Kevan. If you want that to change then write a nice little letter to Kevan asking him to make you as special as he is. Until then, fuck off and stop trying to elevate yourself above wiki rules. You blatantly abused your sysop position to discriminate against one user for living in Central America and bail out a fellow sysop. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 22:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Are you kidding? I didn't know he was from central america and I gave less of a shit than Misanthropy. --
- Oh, and we know you are less than capable of being serious at the best of times. --
- I'm not a sysop. Not my job to take what I do seriously. If you don't like it, quit. Nothing of value will be lost. And Misanthropy knows that Woot is from Central America. Thinking of reversing your not vandalism now? --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 23:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Actually the only thing I've learnt from this whole debacle is this Central American thing. 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh also vandalism. May as well. 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are voting Vandalism because he made an A/M case? So, you are basically saying that it is bad faith to try to hold the sysops accountable and in this case, object to racism? Congratulations, you are the worst Sysop ever. And I know a thing about bad sysops.-- #99 DCC 23:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- I think I'm gonna stop buying the paper, this is far more entertaining. 23:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
23:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not a sysop. Not my job to take what I do seriously. If you don't like it, quit. Nothing of value will be lost. And Misanthropy knows that Woot is from Central America. Thinking of reversing your not vandalism now? --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 23:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
23:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, and we know you are less than capable of being serious at the best of times. --
- Are you kidding? I didn't know he was from central america and I gave less of a shit than Misanthropy. --
3 cases isn't properly spamming A/M, Iscariot's far better at it. If Sonny isn't happy with a ruling let him challenge it. Not Vandalism. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's the thing. It isn't ruled on. Only two sysops have voted and the case isn't closed. He's jumping the gun in massive proportions just to have his way. -- 03:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Not Vandalism Oh, and ddr? It's not afraid to come here so much as I really hate the clique, best-bud bullshit just about every single op is pulling lately. Oh, and the fact that you're being a power-badging cunt still.--Big Cat 02:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- You know, if you stopped playing 'the little guy' act you'd probably find that your perspective of how I behave is actually nothing of what you say. You'd probably find the same conclusion if you actually spend time here other than when drama strikes. --
- Ah fuck I can't be arsed with dealing with your e-peen spewing. Wrote a metric fuck-tonne with links, proof, fancy words, the works! Then remembered you and your tendency to ignore everything and go ego-defensive one-liner mode. So a shortened version:
- A) YOU begged me to come back last November, and since then multiple users have come to me and asked me to come back and check in, whether it was to review cases, projects, fix the shit the ops team is causing in general, or just come back and help out.
- B) You consistently act like a cunt whenever my name comes up or I do ANYTHING but follow your little flute (and quite a few times, you've used that little badge of power against me and other users in the process), or when anyone even slightly pisses you off. Look at the Nezhaulcoyotl II case. Look at the irc logs of you saying how you were going to demote CB the moment his A/RE came, even if the community disagreed. Look at you sharing his private info with the wiki. Look at how you treated EVERYONE involved with the text links not counting as used for images discussion on your talk page (WHAT THE HELL?!?!? is the header you're looking for). Look at you being a bully towards me defending my own case. Not to mention you being a dick in general. Again. That's not even all of the list I made. 'Tis but a small sample. I could get out the irc logs, msn logs, google wave logs (unless those got deleted from inactivity. I haven't been on wave since before new years), hell, even myspace had some examples of you plotting and being a dick towards users on here.
- What ddr's reaction will probably amount to: no uve changed sa im still the same you just cant accept the fact that things have changed here with you but not in the way you want and youre wrong about me im not a dick you just think i am cuz u changed
- In short: DDR, please piss off and retire already.--Big Cat 11:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- I begged you to come back and found a user who had no interest in actually helping out the community (to the point of making the deliberate wrong rulings in A/VB cases "for the lulz", something only hagnat had done before you) and as such I argued against your behaviour. Talking about apparent bullying and vendettas, you've found yourself ruling the opposite to me (and actualy citing my ruling as either an influence, a critiquing point or the actual reason you ruled against it) since new years now I believe... And, oh yes, in relation to Cyberbob, I believe (Want the logs too?) it was you who initiated the idea that if you made it into crat position by the time Bob was there you would tinker with the idea of demoting him regardless of popular opinion. I was happy to demote Bob if the situation asked the task and the choice was in my hands rather than both me and boxy's, but it never came to that so I happily kept him. Regardless, it is you who has become more of what you hated (come once a month, have a love-in with the drama and leave) than I have, so don't come crying to me.
- And yes, I will happily resign when my term ends, and before you materialise any thoughts of accomplishment or grandeur it has nothing to do with you or the annoying mosquitoes you've become so much like. --
- But meh, whatever. After looking at your recent string of edits on RC it looks like you didn't approve of me saying you were afraid of coming here. Obviously I didn't mean it in a literal sense and my displeasure, whilst directed at you, was more of an umbrella hatred towards being one of the only 3 active ops (now CB has gone) on udwiki. Look at A/M for fucks sake, the cases can't physically be ruled on at this current state. It's a joke. I just want more ops who take the job seriously. And that is where I first had my problems with you recently. -- 11:54, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'd love the logs, if the offer is still on the table. Talk page or email, whatever's easier. Cyberbob Talk 14:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- Apparently you drink too much DDR? Because now, it looks like you're conveniently forgetting the MSN and IRC conversations where you've said these, and it looks like you're pretty much going "no u", without the usual insults. It's more polite, but the fake sophistication isn't needed.
- It was right before I came back, because you and CB were usually "butting heads in A/VB, waiting for boxy to come and rule and show who was right". Remember that? His behavior "degraded" to where he was the "low point on the scale of being an 'op". His degradation was while I was gone, so I had no idea what was going on until you came to me (by the way, I took the liberty of making your quotes a bit more coherent. You know how it can be in chats, what with us improperly spelling and not caring about basic grammar. Hope you don't mind :3) and asked me to come back because everyone else wasn't doing shit and you were tired of the 1v1 matches the place was turning into.
- Two cases where I made the "wrong ruling", which is hilarious because you've made the wrong ruling your self on some cases since I came back. Oh, wait, rulings are based on what a sysop thinks aren't they? Oh shit, that would mean that there is no inherent right or wrong ruling, especially combined with the rule that p much says we can do what we want! D: But yeah, two cases, in both said user was boned no matter what I ruled. "He's boned in this case anyway right? It's not like it matters. :) -- SA 19:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)". Since then I haven't done anything like that, and every case that wasn't entirely serious was Red Rum and I having fun, and we didn't ask anyone to bring it here.
- I told you from the start I was trying to stay away from here, and that I didn't want to come back, yet you asked me to come back anyway, due to lack of sysops. I had a little fun here and there when my fun would not overly affect anything.
- I ruled on ONE case using you as my reasoning, because at one point, you decided that arbies rulings can't really do shit and we should let users go forum shopping, mind you, the case I was using as a reference was this one. And so what? We're system operators of a wiki. We're SUPPOSED to use each other as references, and use each others past rulings as precedence. So the whole "no ur the one being vendetta-y" is kind of bullshit. Please try another tactic.
- "Regardless, it is you who has become more of what you hated (come once a month, have a love-in with the drama and leave) than I have, so don't come crying to me."
- That has fuck all to do with this situation, as I never called you out on any counts of inactivity. I just love how you're fishing for things to make me look bad. Like the little "And yes, I will happily resign when my term ends, and before you materialise any thoughts of accomplishment or grandeur it has nothing to do with you or the annoying mosquitoes you've become so much like. --DanceDanceRevolution (ask/talk) 11:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC) " comment. Pretty sure it was established awhile ago that you were leaving because you wanted a break, not because of us little mosquitoes biting the shit out of you. But again, making me out to be oh so bad, amirite?
- *Prepares for DDR and his tendency to fight for the last word*
- Oh, and CB? I'll have the logs for you as soon as I can. I forgot that I'm on a new pc (bought so I can splurge on DoW2 on ultra and play Shattered Horizon at max. 'Tis wonderful! :B) and gave the old one to my little brother. So I gotsa to get the hard drive contents to send them to you. If I don't have them by the end of the week, I've probably just forgotten and need a nudge. :| --Big Cat 19:16, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
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