Talk:Philosophe Knights

ARCHIVES Talk Page - Archive - Older Archive - Oldest Archive An inquiry as to the Knight's stance regarding The Escape I have been observing the unfolding events and mass migration initiated by the new group The Escape; my curiosity was piqued as to how an elite, influential group as the Philisophes would adjucate such actions, if at all. I suppose thier myopic plan will come to a head and they will have to initiate the Plan B/Lemming Offensive and wipe themselves out, rescinding action from any external groups. Just a pondering. All the best to the true Knights of Malton. MikhailKalashnikov разговор 06:52, 23 May 2010 (BST) I am not personally involved in operations in that area, but I believe, to put it simply, we've been shooting them. CITIZEN VI 19:22, 25 May 2010 (BST) Recruitment Concerning your group advert on the Category:Recruitment page, you may be interested to know that a vote is currently underway concerning the duration of time adverts can be reserved by a given timestamp. Your input is welcomed, and it should be known that if this vote passes you will need to update your adverts on a at least a monthly basis, not a two-monthly basis. Thanks. 00:46, 25 July 2010 (BST) Between you, myself, and some of the others with the Knights, I'm sure we have the situation well in hand. IV PK 01:01, 25 July 2010 (BST) Special Invitation He who is hated by all can not expect to live long. -Pierre Corneille You are herby cordially invited to attend EVIL's first ever Rage in a Cage match. Please reserve your spot today by clicking here and starting a new topic. If you choose not to attend the event, we ask that you inform us of this decision as well. Upon receiving this invitation, you are asked to forward it on, in its entirety, to five (5) PKer groups of your choosing. We hope to see you at the event!! Your Brothers in Arms, EVIL -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 01:06, 3 August 2010 (BST) ...a...chain letter? IV PK 03:10, 3 August 2010 (BST) Uh,... not really. You know why? Because if you don't post it at least five times, absolutly nothing will happen. It's only a chain letter if something bad will happen if you don't post it. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:17, 3 August 2010 (BST) Dr Dempsky Just curious, is this chap one of yours? He claims to be. It's quite possible he is, I just wanted to cross-reference, since I, frankly, don't want to get any of your chaps in trouble (since I think you're pretty damn neat, even if it should not be mutual). -pinkgothic 22:19, 7 September 2010 (BST) He is, though he is still learning our ways as a student. IV PK 22:31, 7 September 2010 (BST) Thanks for the swift response - I'll tell people to paws-off, then. Just for context: I figure my profile invites for you guys to snipe me (I've historically plastered myself with claims of ignorance; but that's simply because I figure there's always room to learn, and since I'm a very casual player, this is unfortunately rare), so I'm not surprised it happened. A bit jarred it would be done while Yagoton is still struggling to rebuild itself and we can use people to up the 'cades, but I suppose in a zombie apocalypse, there's never really a good time. Either way, happy hunting. -pinkgothic 22:43, 7 September 2010 (BST) Hello pinkgothic, I've set up a wiki page, so should now be identifiable. Your 5 HP were, um, tempting, in terms of low hanging fruit, and in any event, I only had one shotgun round left. Good luck with Yagoton. I'd like to see the libraries restored there. Let's aim for "room to learn" all around. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dempsky (talk • contribs) at an unknown time. 5 is a holy number. Your deed was blessed by the Goddess. Hail Discordia! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:04, 9 September 2010 (BST) A Query As a scholar, I find it imperative to know your stance towards Delta Kilo One Three. If you have no objections, I offer this agreement: if you pledge to take no action within our protected area, we pledge to not seek you out. Our numbers are as vast as our group is historic, and it is to your advantage to work with us. In short: for as long as you do not attack anybody in our territory, we will grant you asylum. Leafy Greens 21:50, 5 January 2011 (UTC) As a scholar, I find it imperative to know what the ratio between 'historic' and 'vast' is. The comparison is rather vague. Veiled threats will get you nowhere. Should we ever find ourselves facing your 'vast' numbers, I doubt any of us will be intimidated in the slightest. As for our stance in regards to DK13, you are as many groups are in this city: a collection of fools of varying degrees of severity, and doubtless a few wise individuals as well. You are hardly alone in this, and individual members of your group will doubtless end up punished by our members if they do not seek to enlighten themselves. However, we are far less likely to find DK13 guilty of Factional Crimes if you sever all relations with the Zerger which makes up the 'group' Dragonhead, as well as the zergers who make up 'Bigger Mortice'. We have been known to assault people who give Zergers assistance. ...And unless your group provokes us to the point where we are forced to declare you all enemies of Knowledge, Centers of Learning will provide your members with a safe asylum from ours. Thank you for your time, Mr. Greens, and Praise Knowledge. --DTPK 23:39, 5 January 2011 (UTC) As our clan's page states, the group was created on the second day after the outbreak. We are the oldest recorded survivor group. Partially as a result, our numbers have grown to the extent that we cannot accurately keep track of everyone working with us. As for your third statement, I apologise for any confusion. I did not intend for my writing to be interpreted as a threat. I meant that we might assist you if you agree, not that we would attack you if you didn't. I had no intention to insinuate that we would attack you if you did not accept. That is a foolish and lowly tactic used only by the weak and insecure. Being learned men, I am sure that you will understand where I am coming from when I say this, but we will require definitive proof before disassociation with any group. If you can provide evidence sufficient to convince my superiors, then I see no reason to continue relations with the aforementioned groups. Leafy Greens 16:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC) I would have hoped that a group would take allegations of being associated with zergers seriously enough that they would immediately research the matter themselves and take action, rather than waiting for others to spoon feed the evidence to them. Nevertheless, I'll make this a bit easier for you. Searching for "Dragonhead" on Resensitized yields this evidence as the very first result. Bigger Mortice has been recognized as a zerg and has been zerg listed for years now, so the original evidence does not appear to be on the current iteration of Resensitized, but I'm sure you could track it down if you tried. IV PK 23:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC) I personally would, but I'm not the leader of DK13. I'm just a diplomat. Leafy Greens 04:24, 10 January 2011 (UTC) Admin stuff Praise Knowledge is currently up on the deletions page. It's not really a glossary article and too short to really justify keeping it in the main namespace. Would you like it kept as one of your subpages or are you quite happy for it to be deleted? -- Cheese 16:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC) Good Day, Sirs! Hello, as most of you already know, I'm DevilAsh, the wee annoying one from over at Red Rum. I'm just here to let you know (even though I have access to your forums) that in response to The Big Prick's Mall Tour, we've started up our very own, The Big Red Vasectomy Tour. Our reasoning behind this is simple: The Big Prick are locking away knowledge from the greater people of Malton, and we just cannot allow that. We would love for you to join us, especially since we share the same intellectual pursuit in the matter. All the best, --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 15:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC) Great Suburb Group Massacre 2011 Group Confirmed. This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply. If you could fulfil this request to further the wiki as a bastion of knowledge that would be splendid.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC) Lamport Hills, East Boundwoood, Yagoton, and Millen Hills see a consistent presence of Philosophe Knights. --DTPK 16:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC) Thanks.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC) Invitation Your group is rather difficult to contact. I'd wager your forum administrator is on vacation. I'd like to invite the all Knights to part take in Section 13's "BRAINS!!!" contest. This is a role play / writing contest just for the hell of it. The winner will be dubbed "Zombie Overlord. The themes will concentrate on UD inspired stories, or Zombie fiction and writers have free reing on their choice of format. Deadline for submissions is Friday March 26th for the first round. Please register an account on our forums and check out the thread titled BRAINS!!! for full details, or click the following link to go straight there. http://z3.invisionfree.com/S13_Command/index.php?showtopic=222 Respectfull, Jack S13 T! PC 15:03, 14 March 2011 (UTC) Why should anyone wish to be dubbed Zombie Overlord? We get that sort of accusation all the time. Nonetheless, I shall be sure to submit an item. --DTPK 17:11, 20 March 2011 (UTC) The Forum Now, usually when the forum goes down due to either scriptkiddies injecting code, or because the payment didn't make it, there's no page to be seen. However, I am unable to access the forum at the moment, being told it is not available, and that my account does not exist. Which of you blackguards banned me? I shall be sure to keep you alive for days before I mercifully let you expire. Return to me my access post-haste! --DTPK 17:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC) I'm being told it's unavailable at the moment too, so I'd imagine something's gotten borked. The area for you guys is still set up and private on our forums, and as always your lot are more than welcome to use it. --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 17:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC) I believe we are experiencing our second bout of hacking, as our forum has been deactivated from the inside. We already have a forum on your forums. http://redrum.scoundrell.com/forums/ Any Knights bewildered and confused, go there, sign up, and PM Revenant or DevilAsh for forum access to the Philosophe Knight subforum. Or just spam their PM box with frivolous requests for obscure Thai cuisine. I'm sure they're lonely over there and will appreciate the attention. --DTPK 17:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC) Or you can PM Perpetua (me) on that forum. --DTPK 22:16, 20 March 2011 (UTC) I wondered why I couldn't log on. I discovered it between the hours of 9am-11am EST(UTC -5) time if that helps. I was on my phone so I figured it was just a glitch there and not that the whole forum was down.. We could all congregate on the IRC as well. on a side note critique the "Remarks by one who encountered MS in a local Library" part of my profile page if you'd like. I all up for constructive criticism.        02:22, 21 March 2011 (UTC) I can access the board, but it tells me "This board has no forums." Has it all been wiped clean? PXPK 00:05, 27 March 2011 (UTC) Well I can load members profiles and my private messages but other than that I think its all gone.       00:31, 27 March 2011 (UTC) Have the knights really come to such an end? This is a true pity. I certainly intend to try to carry on the ideology to my future groups and endeavors. I find it depressing that so much of our internal history has been lost with the forum. PXPK 04:18, 4 June 2011 (BST) Nay! The Knights have not come to an end. Think of it more as a new beginning for us even more so once we get a new forum to work on. You can join us on the RedRum forums DT gave a link to in the mean time.       04:25, 4 June 2011 (BST) Drat. And right when I had regained my computer access, and thought of a splendid campaign. Ah well, how do we keep in touch now? Defender Of The Weak 00:48, 19 April 2011 (BST) We're on the redrum forum and on IRC or at least we used to be..seems both have gone inactive though. There's info on it a few posts above this one.       04:13, 19 April 2011 (BST) Just wanted to report in that ST is back and around.. would love to see the PKnights boasting the same.. --STPK 08:41, 28 June 2011 (BST) Always good news to see another knight return!       13:14, 28 June 2011 (BST) i blame it on karma for you guys not accepting me.. gods will and all that rot.--User:Sexualharrison14:13, 28 June 2011 (bst) I've finally stumbled back within Malton's grasp. My quest for the Tower once again led me here. Praise Knowledge! - THELORDGUNSLINGER 19:57, 6 August 2011 (BST) Template Here's a template I made, figured some knights might like it. It'll update when ever the page loads. Punctuality Philosophe Knights believe(s) in being on time. The current time is 12:43 on Sunday, December 22, 2024 (UTC)        05:10, 22 May 2011 (BST) Nice! I've tweaked it slightly; hope you don't object. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 05:50, 22 May 2011 (BST) Nah, I'm fine with helpful edits, I'm not the best with coding stuff       12:44, 22 May 2011 (BST) QSG. an upstart group has decided to make war with the QSG. if you have any members in the roftwood area that could help that would be appreciated. thanks again asshole doctor --13:29, 31 July 2011 (BST) ENVY I am a bit ad odds finding out Golam has PKed one of my crew. I know the truce was made a while ago and with Treebob at the helms but I respected that (as I was part of the mayhem) and ignored any Philosophe Knights on my path. Should I reconsider and introduce you as hostile again ? (whats up with the font here :P) --Murderess 01:42, 9 August 2011 (BST) I am afraid I have no record of any truce. Indeed, Treebob has been known to unilaterally declare “truce” without any notice to the other party. Might I ask for a copy of whatever gives you the impression that there was any form of diplomatic relations? His Imperial & Royal Highness, the Archduke d’Œuvre  I unfortunately do not have "records" of this. It was back in the days when we use to hang in North Blyth and were hitting a lot of PKers group as they were coming at us as well (first). You guys ended up calling a truce with ENVY. I recall this very well as I took you off my "black list" and you were in the area and never bothered with us anymore... until now. We did stay there for a long time and you guys went on your merry way. I was not in the talks back then but its very clear in my mind. Not sure what you want to do about it. Your call I guess. Just trying to establish whats going on here. --Murderess 03:03, 9 August 2011 (BST) Do you, perhaps, have a record of the kill? His Imperial & Royal Highness, the Archduke d’Œuvre  03:19, 9 August 2011 (BST) Again unfortunate, I whip my crew to screenshot but get not much results. Until now that I screamed again... All I got was : Here's the PKer that got me Golam. He killed this guy : Boris von pwn Not sure what to tell ya... talking to Treebob now and he is looking for records... --Murderess 03:39, 9 August 2011 (BST) I now have the emails that were sent back and forth from "William" to Treebob way back when. See your forum for details... well, let me in :P --Murderess 03:55, 9 August 2011 (BST) I wouldn't put much stock in what these chumps tell you on this page or in their forums. They are consummate liars. Despite multiple lessons taught by TZH these asshats have continued to fail all of their "Awesomexams". Basically, they will jerk you around for days, attempt to run you in circles, and then still shoot you. Take it from someone who has had the intense displeasure of bearing witness to their asshattery for 3+ years, across the game and multiple forums. You're better off shooting them, and using an ignore app to block out what they say in game. Is it text rape? No. But it does something almost as bad... listening to them can actually make you dumber. It will lower your REAL LIFE IQ. It happened to one of our members, poor guy can't do math anymore. Remember, those who shout loudest about how smart they are, often aren't. Especially when they use yuppie memes, worn out gimmicks, and lame RP to do it. Just sayin'. Oh, and also, all Fulloshit Knights are welcome to a heaping helping of my frumunda. BALLS TO THE WHALLS bitches! --Dhavid Grohl 06:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC) I have certaily missed you DhaveGrohl--Rapture 04:19, 16 November 2011 (UTC) Standard policy Is it standard policy for you to leap from windows? I would of thought suicide was above individuals as well learned as you.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 03:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC) What our enemies "would of" thought is rarely of pressing concern to the Philosophe Knights. It is precisely the uninformed opinions and irrational ideas of the ignorant that the Philosophe Knights seek to correct. Furthermore, the Philosophe Knights rarely - if ever - disclose what their "standard polices" are. Or if they have standard policies. Thank you for your time, and Praise Knowledge. --DTPK 17:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC) I hope these policies you don't like to talk about cover accidental death, cos you lot are prone to it an awful lot. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   18:42, 16 November 2011 (UTC) What does your retort even mean? On the surface it appears to be dusted with wit even if it is ever so dull. In actuality your comment makes no sense what so ever. This is a perfect example of the ignorance we aim to help you with. Brother BD PK Talk PST 19:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC) Very clever. Did you cut and paste that all by yourself, or did you get a grown up to help you? ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   19:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC) Excuse me, Kempy, is there something urgent you require of the Philosophe Knights? A question? A demand? A complaint? Anything at all that requires you to use our talk page? We'd be happy to help, if you do. Thank you, and Praise Knowledge. --DTPK 20:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC) No no, just chillin'. Talkin', on your page. Your talk page, the page where talking gets done. I'm most certainly not diving out windows, or any other unsportsmanlike behaviour to avoid being tagged by the other team in order to cover up the utter humiliation of defeat I would assuredly receive. Because, haha, that would be pretty lame, eh? ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   20:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC) ...oh, wait. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   20:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC) I have a question, how has your day been Professor DT? I trust your health is in good order. --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 20:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC) How kind of you to inquire, sir! I continue my duties even when under the weather. And I hope you are doing as well as I, my friend. It's been a while since we last talked. How have you been? What new antics have you gotten up to? And to Kempy: There is nothing more that would I enjoy right now more than a speech on unsportsmanlike behavior and the humiliation of defeat. Please do continue. Thank you ever so much for your kind words, and Praise Knowledge! --DTPK 20:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC) Ah, I wouldn't know anything about all that kinda stuff. Just a dumb, uneducated plod, me. But, I'm good at me job, and that's what counts, eh? You should be grateful, you've got guys like me and Mich up there, keeping the streets safe from the oiks. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   20:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC) It has been a long time, its been the same old keeping the floatsum down one way or another.--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:17, 17 November 2011 (UTC) The streets are safe? I had no idea. --DTPK 21:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC) No new ones, anyway. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   21:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC) Do you think we've violated some special privilege of yours? Please. Here's how you should address this "issue": Deal with it. --The Hemographer PK03:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC) I don't think anyone here said that. I didn't read anyone saying "You've violated some special privilege of ours."--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 03:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC) No doubt that is why HG asked if you thought that, rather than if that is what you said. Do you think that? --DTPK 03:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC) Well then he is jumping the gun a bit to start giving out advice before anyone really answered the question. I'm glad I got an answer to my earlier question DT the only was to learn sometimes is to ask. I just didn't think making yourselves easier targets was your style.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 04:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC) Yours is answered? Fascinating. And it seemed so dependent upon specifics. But, that apparently being so, do we receive no answer to ours? We long for insight into your minds, you see. They must be so interesting. --DTPK 04:26, 17 November 2011 (UTC) Yeah it was. You basically said you weren't gonna discuss your standard policies if you had them with me. My mind isn't as interesting as you would think. It's a jumbled mess that even I don't know what's happening in there. Personally thou I don't think you've violated a privilege of ours I wasn't even aware we had any privileges. Officer James thou may have a different view on that matter thou.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 04:34, 17 November 2011 (UTC) And you think that 'to leap from windows' is either a Policy (which assumes that Knights were told beforehand to do so) or Standard (something done often, or not at all unusual), or both for the Philosophe Knights? We obviously either stepped outside or leapt outside, but to assume that this was something other than a last-second decision during a hectic performance is the height of folly: a failure of reason. As for privileges, very nearly everyone has the privilege to be educated, at least. And don't sell your mind short. That jumbled mess is a veritable treasure trove for some! Thank you for your time, and Praise Knowledge! --DTPK 04:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC) Actually I never said I thought that it was I just enquired as to if it was. One of your Knights in the CAPD channel actually said it was so it all becomes quite a confusing contradiction with you lot. Also I wasn't enquiring to the aftermath of your wonderful performance. It was more around the discussing of a failed bank robbery by two of your members.--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 04:58, 17 November 2011 (UTC) Lulz. Chill, you silly pups. My unrequested take on this? 'Tis a difference of opinion we won't ever reach agreement on. Different idiosyncrasies from different groups of people. Say, like, for instance, those RG fellows who think self-reporting PKers are lame, cause it's "unsportsmanlike" or whatever? I never could twig that myself. Me, I like PKers who've got the balls to self-report, paint a bounty on their backs themselves. That's brave. Then again, I assume haters have their reasons, so hey, to each their own. So, window diving? We see it as fundamentally lame. You see, we take these shootouts as a sport of sorts, a chance to test our skills and coordination. We take an awful lot of pride from doing well at these. And divers are fellas who cheat at this sport, in a way, because they play on "easy mode". It completely spoils the competition: you can't have a meaningful score if a team is playing on easy while the other is on hard. And we could dive ourselves, of course, to even it out, but that's even worse, it takes away the challenge. There's hardly any point in dirt nap, kill some guy, dive - any monkey can do that. It's just pressing buttons. So yeah, we like PKers who stay alive, we respect those. Think Suburban Ed, DJ Talent, FOD... hell, Binlaggin is a master at staying alive, hence why I'm a big fan, even though he doesn't love me any more... I think I broke his heart with a stray bullet :( And divers? Well we play of course, we're game like that, but it's pretty hard for us not to go all dismissive and snobbish. "Amateur hour," etc. But to each their own, huh :) --Suze 07:07, 17 November 2011 (UTC) I assumed it was obvious that question was rhetorical, which is why I responded to it myself. To be sure, it seemed clear to me you implied that you are entitled to posteducation revenge, and that we, by depriving you of it by whatever means, have "violated" the "special privilege" that provides it. --The Hemographer PK14:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC) The anger of those deprived of satisfaction is an unreasonable anger, Sir HG. To understand it, one must leave the realm of logic and clarity of thought, and return to the tangled, unruly mess of emotions that we have worked so hard to distance ourselves with. They do not see the act of revenging themselves upon us as a right they have. Rather, they believe that we are honor-bound to avail ourselves to them, for either revenge or mercy. They believe that because we believe in honor and integrity that we have disgraced our name by moving ourselves beyond their reach. What they do not realize - because they have not yet moved beyond the emotional response to our 'unsportsmanlike' actions - is that we have placed ourselves beyond their reach so that our punishment of their Ignorance does not devolve into some petty tit-for-tat war of attrition. This is the true face of our enemy, HG! These people who cannot understand that we do not kill them in order to defeat them, but rather in order to help them, this is our enemy. They think that they must now take up arms against us, when in fact the rational course of action is to correct the errors of their modus operandi, to embrace reason, and to seek education, and by doing so, make us go away. First, they are stopped by their pride: they do not want to give in to us, they feel it would be shameful. Then they are stopped by their anger: we have done them harm, and their instincts will not let them forgive us. Finally they are stopped by their habits: to retaliate against us, to defend their way of life is how they have always lived. To think about the "Why" of their actions, to actually question their motivations is anathema to them. They have never done it before. To simply ask them to Deal With It is to ask them to do the rational thing. But they will never do that until they discover this truth for themselves. Education is not a sport. Our methods are not those of sportsmen. There are recreational contests of skill that a person may enter into for sport, but the Philosophe Knights do not consider themselves contenders in any contest, Officers of the Crew Avenue Police Department. We have punished you for the crime of Ignorance, for your perpetuation of an injustice to the efforts of the living in Malton. Accept this punishment. Think upon this punishment. Question this punishment if you must. But do not fight it because your animal instincts tell you that you must. You are not the common corpse which sways in the street; you are more than that. We come only to bring you help, not to humiliate you. This is the truth of the Philosophe Knights. Praise Knowledge. --DTPK 22:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC) Aye. 34 - 21. ♥ ♥ ♥ :) --Suze 00:28, 18 November 2011 (UTC) So when does this punishment you say has already happened actually begin?--ZIPO/Talk/◆◆◆/CAPD 00:37, 18 November 2011 (UTC) Can you imagine DT on Who Wants to be a Millionaire? You'd be halfway through the series before he even got round to answering the £500 question. What a blowhard. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   06:37, 18 November 2011 (UTC) Lulz. I just noticed there isn't a link to our kill registry in this page. Here ya go. 38 - 23 as of now. Come on, sleeping beauties, you can catch up! --Suze 01:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC) ... ...A simple request to all the Knights... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:58, 2 December 2011 (UTC) Hardly simple. Will you ask us what 'Truth' is next? Praise Knowledge, and have a pleasant day. --DTPK 22:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)