Talk:PTT

Havercroft under siege

Hi,I'm a poor newbie who was dropped into a zed flooding zone.I wish to go Shearbank and join PTT,but the situation looks bad here.And I am still Lv1....May I ask in advance how to join PTT?

Please DO NOT KILL members of The Lime Brigade

ATTENTION PTT - Many members of The Lime Brigade are coming to help defend Stickling from Mall Tour '07. The Lime Brigade is composed of ex-Shacknews characters who are now trying the human side of the game. WE ARE NORMAL HUMANS NOW. WE ARE NOT PKers and NOT GKers. Please DO NOT KILL US, WE ARE DEFENDING THE MALL. You already killed me once, without warning. Very annoying. Please check your targets and do not attack The Lime Brigade. Thanks. --Pchem 15:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Images on Unused List

Archive should prevent any images you want to save from being accedently deleted. please be sure to put any images such as these on this page. Conndraka^{mod TDHPD CFT} 16:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

There were two image archives, so I've combined them into PTT/Images now, and put the other one up for deletion -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 07:35 26 September 2009 (BST)

NMC boards

Greetings friends. Cloud, please go to the NMC boards, I have left you a message --Dickhole Bonaparte _{Malton Rangers} 16:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Salutations from The Shearbank Resistance

Hello, and greetings from The Shearbank Resistance. We appreciate that you have chosen to make Shearbank your home, especially since you are such a large group. (On a personal note, I would like to thanks MarkBlue for healing my character Filbert the Vengeful the other day, I'm sure he doesn't remember me specifically because we are all so busy with fighting Shacknews, but such deeds are noted by me and my group).

A couple of months ago my group tried to start up an INDoor revive point (RP) at St. Christopher's Church. (Indoor RPs do not have any barracades). We found that with so many zombies at Alder Row that we were often attacked when trying to help others. Now with Shacknews here the situation has gotten even worse. We would like to try again to make St. Chris' an INdoor RP just like the famous RP of the YRC at St. Swithun's Church. It would be better for the following reasons: 1. people doing the revives could not be seen by Zombies in all the squares around the RP like at outdoor RPs, instead they could only be seen by Zombies inside, this would decrease the number of attacks on revivers. 2. people who have just been revived would not have to look for an entry point because they would already be indoors. they could just FreeRun to the mall (if they don't have Freerunning they would be no worse off than if they were at an outdoor RP) 3. Because there would be no barracades, the church would be less vulnerable to overbarricading, which would make it a more reliable entry point. 4. St. Chris' is just one AP away from both Whippey and the Mall. (Allder Row is 2 AP away from the mall and requires use of an entry point, an indoor RP at St. Chris' would be its own entry point as it would have no barricades).

Please discuss this with your members and let us know (here or on our page) if you are interested. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask. --TheBerts 00:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

What we can do

As you may have noticed, Caiger Mall, the location of the 2 greatest survivor victories, and the longest survivor-occupied building in Malton has been captured by the zombies. The CMS thinks we can do something about this. PTT is invited to join in the planning and excution of the coming attack to reclaim Caiger.

I also think it would be cool if one or two of your English-speakers translated either of these for your members. It's a hell of a task, I know, but it would probably help those who don't speak much English get an idea why the mall fell and what the CMS is trying to do.

Why Caiger Mall Fell

What We Can Do About It

-Tyler Whitney0 02:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Zerging and killed by one of your members

Greetings, members of PTT, I am Eremes, commonly known in-game as Tsuru642. Now, I'm just a humble bounty hunter, but as I noticed, there are a few members in PTT I have caught zerging and killed before. Well, one before. He uses the accounts DA PETE and LITTLE PETE. Now, just today, and I'm suspect that the two cases are linked, I awaken to my character to find...this. One of your members, newff12 brutally murdered me and I had not even hunted a zerg in well over a week. Instead, I had been helping out the healing effort in Stickling mall.

I know you guys do not condone zerging, nor do you condone PKing and I really think what you're doing on this game is admirable. To have organized such a massive effort to fight the zombie hordes is amazing. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. At least from one source. Either way, as is my duty, I'm reporting this PK to my designated list at Resenstized, but I take confidence in knowing you'll clear up this situation. Thanks, for your time. --Eremes 00:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

編輯討論

Sorry, My English is poor.Shyangs 09:30, 31 August 2006 (BST) J10417 doesn't seem to know wiki grammar. Shyangs 09:47, 31 August 2006 (BST)

• 維基不太適合放置即時情報; 建築安全等級可改為計畫, 不要每個地方都過度建築, 非重要建築保持VSB即可, 至於殭屍數量我覺得可以刪除. Shyangs 06:12, 6 October 2006 (BST)

Tactics in urbandead

Greetings to PTT. I would welcome you on behalf of my group, but I feel that Ron Burgundy would better serve as a diplomat. Now that the formalities are out of the way, I would like to provide you with links to several pages that detail the current tactics used by survivors. I will organize them by importance into tier-1, 2, and 3, with tier-1 being most important. I do this because the language barrier may prevent important information from being obviously present.

Tier 1 concepts- http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Revive_points http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Combat_Revive http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/River_Tactics Tier 2 concepts- http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/How_To_Win_A_Mall_Siege http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Islands http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Tactical_resource_point Tier 3 concepts/History- http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Caiger_Mall http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Mall_Tour_06

= Please understand that these will all(except for the the tier-3) be neccesary if you are to be able to use your numbers effectively. As it stands, your group should not attempt to hold an area and instead employ river tactics until you can all level your characters up to the point where it would viable for you to attempt to hold an area. Khane 10:57 EST, 3 September 2006

Answer from PTT:Thank you Khane. Our people will interpret these links and translate into Chinese ASAP. After that our memebers will understand your friendly efforts and meaning. --Clouddff7PTT 09:27, 10 October 2006 (BST)

你好！

你们好！ --Cyberbob  Talk  12:08, 31 August 2006 (BST)

I am taking chiniese at the moment, currently, I'm only able to say the scantest of greetings, but hopefully my language will improve and we can discuss things. PadreRomero 21:05, 3 September 2006 (BST)

English

Please, use english in this wiki. You are free to talk to your friends in whatever language you want, but we ask you to use english when posting on group pages, or any other page a regular user would access. --overlord hagnat ^mod 16:50, 31 August 2006 (BST)

你們好

PTT 成員,請告知誰是隊長,我再此遊戲約超過一年,經驗十足,我有些想法可能可以幫助你們. --Changchad 17:28, 31 August 2006 (BST)

About using English

Indeed,we know most user here don't speak Chinese.

But we some of our members have diffculty to read such an English page.

So we decide to use both English and Chinese in this wiki,anything we posted here in Chinese will be translate to English.

I think it won't cause too much trouble. :)

--Solakila 19:44, 31 August 2006 (BST)

I don't think anyone will have problems with that. --Brizth ^{M T} 19:53, 31 August 2006 (BST)

We do have a problem when you use Chinese characters in your graffiti in the game though - for a user without a Chinese character set installed Chinese characters just show up in the game as a series of question marks - e.g. "??????????". That's all we see, we can't even try and translate your messages. The phonetic spellings work fine, and of course people can just translate those. But when you use actual Chinese characters, other players simply can't read your graffiti - again, all we see is "???????".

All this could be ignored if it weren't for the fact that some PTT members are in the habit of overwriting tags put up by other groups - that's just arrogant and offensive in any language. If you see tags containing useful information, put up by another group in the area, it's just polite to show them the courtesy of not overwriting their tags. Speaking for the DEM, our policy has always been to never overwrite tags belonging to other groups unless the information they contain is incorrect. --Kal 14:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC) (Jimmy "Two Stacks", MFD Captain, Shearbank)

Greetings from The Sun Organization: 問候從太陽組織

• Personally, I think it's a great idea of your wiki page and group being Chinese based. I may try to pick a bit of the language up myself. I must ask though, you have grown from being a group I hadn't actually heard of, to Malton's strongest, singular force! Nice work, but how'd you manage it?

我們, 太陽組織, 居住在郊區在你的旁邊, 因此您對一個聯盟會說什麼在我們的二個小組之間? I hope I haven't offended you by my possible spelling and grammar mistakes, if my question turns out to be illegible or even impossible to read, then I'll repeat it in English. 問候 --Chopper 16:34, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Answer from PTT Dear Sun Organization: We are very happy and glad to receive your greeting. Hope we can stick together in this Malton Suburbs. We highly treasure our brotherhood.--Clouddff7PTT 09:29, 10 October 2006 (BST)

• 我們讚賞反應我的朋友。我們希望我們的聯盟將是一持久一個! 好看您並且幫助在Blackmore 大廈, 我們並且有人下來那裡。

-Once again, I hope I'm not embarrassing myself with poor use of your language! I hope we'll be able to work together for a brighter future for Malton! 問候 --Chopper 16:27, 9 September 2006 (BST)

• What, may I ask, are you doing? You're fast going to become known as a PKer group if you keep up killing Sun Organization members in their sleep? That's now the second PK by one of your members in as many days. This makes you the third PKer group who are trying to make us suffer, not to mention the war we're currently involved in with Eastonwood Ferals. I thought you hoped we could stick together, Not tear us apart! Please desist in these irratating and pointless PKs, there's more important matters at hand, regards... --Chopper 20:55, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Answer from PTT Dear Sun Organization: Sorry, but a REAL PTT member never PK. Please give us the PKer's profile and we will add him in PTT Wanted List. Don't let one zombie spy break our friendship.--Clouddff7PTT 09:29, 10 October 2006 (BST)

• I'll collect the PKers profiles off our members for you, the response has been appreciated. I can understand that every group has Zombie Spies out to stirr up trouble as we've had the problem ourselves. Sorry I 'jumped the gun' on this issue, we've just had a lot of PKer problems recently. Good to see you helping out down at the Blackmore Building though anyway! We've sent a few NecroTech's down there to help out too! Regards... --Chopper 15:45, 24 September 2006 (BST)

Greetings from The A-Team!

Greetings! I'm Colonel Hannibal Smith. I see that you are part of the Blackmore Bastard Brigade. We're quite happy to have you aboard and thank you for helping us in our conflict in Ridleybank. I, and the rest of us of the New Malton Colossus, thank you. I know nothing of the Chinese language, I'm sorry to say, but I do hope the spirit of brotherhood is understood by both sides despite the language barrier.

Answer from PTT: Dear New Malton Colossus: We are also glad we can help you defend the Blackmore Building at Ridleybank. We just do what we should do for Malton. Besides, We will try hard to ask our PTT members to providing defending forces for you. Some people in our organization can speak Chinese and English. So we think communication problem does not exist. --Clouddff7PTT 09:29, 10 October 2006 (BST)

Greetings from DHPD

The DHPD welcome the entrance of a New Survivor group into Malton. Obviously, our allies in the Asian rim have decided that an outbreak of this type must be engaged by both occidental and oriental means and measures. Considering your numbers an entire squadron of planes had to be used to air drop you into Malton. If you find yourselves in Dunell Hills or anywhere in the DMZ please feel free to make yourself comfortable. Conndraka^{mod T CFT} 22:57, 2 September 2006 (BST)

Answer from PTT: We are happy to receive your invitation and greeting. We will let our members know that we are not alone at Dunell Hills. We cherish this brotherhood between DHPD and PTT. You could obtain necessary help and healing if you are at Shearbank.--Clouddff7PTT 09:30, 10 October 2006 (BST)

greeting from the malton reclaim

a: when talking ot us, plz use english. b: welcome!

Hello from the City Zoo

Welcome to the wiki and congratulations on hopping straight to the top of the group stats. I just wanted to say hello on behalf of The Malton Zookeepers and let you know that you're be welcome to come visit us at the zoo - we offer great group discount rates. --Belmond^TMZ 00:02, 3 September 2006 (BST)

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a word of advice. do not make the zeds mad—The preceding Template:Wikipedia comment was added by Cody6 (talk • contribs) .

Answer from PTT: Nice to meet you. PTT are glad to receive the warm greeting from the Malton Zookeepers. Our memebers will drop by your big zoo if we are free.--Clouddff7PTT 09:31, 10 October 2006 (BST)

Leaders

who leads your group?--Gage 07:02, 11 September 2006 (BST)

Answer : Currently we do not have a specific leader. Actually our group works like a continental council. Members give opinions. Then we integrate these opinions and choose the best plan. --Solakila 08:47, 20 September 2006 (BST)

Is there anyone who's opinion is more important?--Gage 22:11, 21 September 2006 (BST)

Well, everyone's opinion is equally important,but you can contact Clouddff7PTT,he manages diplomatic things. --Solakila 07:30, 30 September 2006 (BST)

Hello, your members may be cheating

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• Things we don't do :　

PKing, GKing, RKing, spying.

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However, I see that zerging is something you do not condone, though. Spotted in NW Treweeke mall (same square) are v86861062 and v86861063, both from PTT. This is very very suspicious behaviour. As serially assigned names are usually used for such tasks.

Look at Multi_abuse and clean your game. --wcil 12:50, 11 September 2006 (BST)

• I beg to differ when you say you don't PK. As mentioned above, The Sun Organization are dealing with enough right now without their supposed allies PKing them, two reports have so far been made and we'd appreciate it if you ceased in these pointless actions. Screenshots will be used and taken to accuse you of being PKers should it happen again, now please, settle down. --Chopper 21:00, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Answer from PTT: We will tell him.

You have been mentioned here:

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Battle_of_Blackmore

Zerging?

My character, DJSpinbad, has run into iamwilliam and iamwilliam2 in Shearbank, at the Sartin Monument. I ran into both these characters at the same time. I am wondering if these 2 characters are the same person. I have checked their profiles and both are members of PTT. If you want screenshots of this occurance, I will be happy to provide them. --Axe Hack 12:05, 18 September 2006 (BST)

Answer from PTT: We will tell him.

I see that on your blacklist you added in a zerge hunter as a PKer. These zerge hunters are doing their jobs, as zerging is considered illegal in Urban Dead. And I also notice that Clobber Girl killed 1 of your members who I see was involved in an earlier zerging incident, but this time under a different character name.(see topic "Hello, your members may be cheating") --Axe Hack 03:41, 23 September 2006 (BST)

About some accusing :p

Generally, the number of PTT daily online user is about 30000~50000,as we mentioned at our wiki index,PTT is one popular Bulletin Board System in Taiwan. Therefore, some of our members may have multiple characters. According to the game rules, multiple characters are not prohibited in Urbandead. In addition, as we know, some of our members are new to this game,so now we are telling our members about UD's rules. Collaboration, sharing (or standing outside) the same building or healing your own characters are highly prohibited by UD. If you see our members zerging, please inform us immediately.

By the way,recently we found some players set their group as PTT,but they are not part of us,you can consider they as spies or fake. And we will kill them on sight. Furthermore, We do not have any members who learn only zombie skills. If you see a guy with PTT title but only with zombie skills, please let us know and we will respond immediately.

P.S please leave your comments here,not at wiki index page,that's very rude and impolite to PTT. --Solakila 07:25, 30 September 2006 (BST)

New Malton Colossus

您好PTT 我叫dickholeguy，我是一个美国人， 所以我的中文水平比你们的坏得多。 我是 新malton colossus 的diplomat。New Malton Colossus 要跟你们朋友。你们可以给我们 一个挑子 在 http://c4nt.proboards104.com/index.cgi. 我们都要你们 跟我们参加打死 zombies。请你们跟 我们说话。你们说了在shearbank你们有很多zombies。 我现在在Roachtown。Roachtown 有很多zombies。The ROACH Klips 要你们到Roachtown去 帮ROACH Klips 打死zombies. The New Malton Colossus 要我谢你们给他们打死的人。RoachTown 在一个city south of shearbank.

Dear dickholeguy:
Currently we are recruiting our members to organize a team for scouting Roachtown. It may take some time. We will let you know if our members and related resources are ready. Feel free to contact us in English. We do have people who can speak English--Clouddff7PTT 09:35, 10 October 2006 (BST)

Complaints against PTT Members

Hi Again,

Checked the Black list, Ans, I'm not on it, but the PTT member revived me so this whole sorry mess is cleared up now. Just an accident i guess?

Anyway, keep up the good work clearing Malton of Zombies!

Ans:Who you are in Game?Please read Black List which you may in it.If you are in it,we will kill you.There also had why you are in our Black List.

[Reason]

Greetings from the Fortress

As a representative, I bring the PTT greetings from the Fortress, and we would like to wish you the best as a new group in Malton. At the same time, I would also like to extend help by offering to provide a better Chinese to English translation for your wiki page, in order for you guys to be better understood by the rest of the Urban Dead community. However, my Chinese is not as good, and I use simplified Chinese, so do excuse any oddities in the following translation…

我是代表Urban Dead其中的一个团体，The Fortress。我们希望你们新的团体会一直上升，达到更高的成就。 同时，我也希望帮你们在PTT的Urban Dead wiki网页提供一个比较好的英文翻译，让别人更能了解到PTT的目标。不过，因为我只会用简体字，而我的华语比英语的水准比较差，所以这个翻译可能会有点古怪… --daishii 11:05, 11 Oct 2006 (BST)

Answer from PTT:
Dear the Fortress: We are very happy to recieve your warm greeting.
In addition, we will very appreciate for your help in translation our chinese into understanable English for other non-chinese speaking people.
Feel free to bring our latest news or information to other friendly survivor groups. --Clouddff7PTT 01:58, 13 October 2006 (BST)

To daishii: Thanks so much for your help! --Darkmiz 10:00, 15 October 2006 (BST)

祝你们新年快乐，万事如意！ The Fortress wishes PTT a happy Chinese New Year! --daishii 14:35, 17 Feb 2007 (BST)

The Big Bash

Hello there, just wanted to know what your plan of action is going to be against The Big Bash once they have made their way to your suburb, Shearbank. To my knowledge, they are only a suburb away from you and their numbers are not too many more than your own. Should you choose to defend your suburb rather than evacuating it, then let your oriental brothers of The Sun Organization know and we'll come take a stand with you... Regards... --Chopper 14:28, 12 October 2006 (BST)

Answer from PTT:
We all deeply appreciate for your warning. Apparently, we already choose to defend Shearbank without objection.
Our members scattered in every possible buildings and stayed high alert about Zed's action. Our scout team patroled at reviving points. The word "evacuation" does not exist in our dictionary.
We are very glad that we could also have a brotherhood with you. Let us defend Shearbank. --Clouddff7PTT 02:07, 13 October 2006 (BST)

Ackland Mall

Survivors around Ackland Mall are holding up a good fight against zombie groups of the RRF and Shacknews. There are also word that the Big Bash is here. If the statement about the Big Bash in Havercroft is true, can we get some help with the seige down at Ackland Mall? Ackland Mall is in Havercroft, which is 2 suburbs southwest of Shearbank, so we could use the extra help. Thank you. --Axe Hack 05:50, 22 October 2006 (BST)

Um....I didn't get that... --Axe Hack 14:15, 25 October 2006 (BST)

Well, our scout told us that the Ackland Mall has already been overruned before our reinforcement get there. Sorry about the Ackland Mall's fallen.

As of right now, survivors are fighting to retake Ackland Mall. Can you send help? Thanks. --Axe Hack 12:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

We will help if we can, though currently we are occupied with the Big Bash at our doors. --Darkmiz 12:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

How do I join you guys?

我想參加ptt,要怎麼作? --Wang 2 Big 13:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

You can contact us through the PTT bbs system. If you understand Chinese, of course. --Darkmiz 12:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Why, Thank You!

I have to say, I am very proud to see that you consider me to be so important! (PTT#重要名單(Lists)) I look forward to working with you all in the future. I'm sure that many of your members have issues they need to deal with, and being a psychiatrist, it is my duty to help see them through their dilemma. Though to be honest, it seems a lot of your members have desires to become shambling zombies... I admit openly that I do not know their reasoning, but it's all I can do to fulfill their desires. Good day, and I shall see you again soon. Torec _T 13:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Now we know who the truly disturbed mind is. There is a difference of being a psychiatrist by getting a degree, and reading novels of Hannibal Lecter in your mom's basement and imagine being a sociopathic psychiatrist. Also, I can see not only you have mental problem, you can't read properly either. You misunderstand being an "anus of the society" as being important. I guess all your other friends on the short bus think they are important, right?--Phater 19:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Now now, don't go saying things you know nothing about. I am a trained professional. My degree was hanging on my wall until the military came in and claimed my office as their own. I believe the last time I saw it was when it was being pushed into a barricade at the door. Now, I cannot read Chinese. I come from Santlerville, which doesn't have much of an Asian community. Now, unless I'm misinterpreting my name being in red, I'm guessing that means that I am a top priority for revenge from your group. I will remind you once again that I am a trained professional, and you would do well to remember that, dear. Torec _T 04:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

In all those none sense you spoke, at least you got one thing right, you don't understand Chinese. Now, before you start wet-dreaming of being "important" to us, go look it up what "5566" means in Taiwanese slang. Because this is what the list is all about, all names on the list are 5566 to us, clear?

About you being so-called "trained professional", I guess Santlerville wasn't known for its education system. You are not in Santlerville anymore, Dorthy. This is Shearbank, and your certificate from a hillbilly institute isn't going to impress anyone here in the city.--Phater 09:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

My now, those are awfully harsh words. Take a look at Santlerville for a moment, would you dear? There are two schools in my old neighbourhood. Those are (on the top) an elementary school and (on the bottom) a highschool. I'm afraid it would be rather impossible for me to take a post-secondary education within my home neighbourhood. I'm afraid I went to school in Ridleybank. From what I hear now, it wouldn't be such a good place to learn the finer points of the human mind; well, besides a few specific cases, such as post traumatic stress disorder victims. Now, on to your other point... Dear, you just proved me right. If you feel so strongly against someone, they ARE important to you, just in a specific way. I could not easily find the definition of this number you've given to me, though it seems to be the name of what looks to be a boy band. Unless that somehow means that the people on that list are talentless frauds, as many boy bands are, I still do not follow.
Once again I remind you that you should watch your mouth. I am not being harsh towards you, and I was merely thanking you for being the first to record my work. It should be noted, however, that I have moved to a different neighbourhood. I find that your group is very unwelcoming of my therapy. Pure venom is not what I expect to encounter when I administer my treatment. I would have enjoyed a nice light banter with your members here as I was doing my work, but you've proven that... well... you're simply too cocky and stuck up for me to care about making your lives better. I will be back, however. I'm always willing to give patients a second chance. Torec _T 13:31, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh my, how your members like to accuse me of things that are not true. Not only do you have no proof of any crimes, I certainly have never destroyed a generator. Getting that close to the thing would get me all dirty! tsk tsk tsk Torec _T-CC 05:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Eric Harris

Just a word of warning that Eric Harris is now masquerading under the PTT banner as he goes about his PKing/GKing away. Thought you guys would like to know. He PKed me last night, and he is now KOS for Omega Company USCMC and would suggest every survivor group hunt him down and grief his existence.--Sgt Toni Reyes ^OMEGA 09:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Evidence

Thank you for the info. We are truly sorry about this incident, but rest assured we have nothing to do with it, or Eric Harris. He will remain on our KOS list for eternity, and please don't let this incident change your opinion towards PTT. --Phater 19:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Rest assured, Phater, Omega Company lays no blame whatsoever towards the PTT for this incident, and recognise it for the unwarranted smear against your group that it was intended to be.--Sgt Toni Reyes ^OMEGA 23:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You know, I try to help for a change and all I get is gunned down. I'm sick of it. You guys deserve this. Well. Antonia didn't-but I wanted to come back with something high-profile. My apologies for that much, however you were back on your feet quite quickly, I must say. I was also given a lot of grief after that "flowery speech", but thank you for at least a neutral mention of it.

As for PTT, well, I'm always going to be treated like a PK'er/GK'er, so I might as well keep on keepin' on with it. --Eric Harris

You think if you ask for cease fire, we have to give it to you? Do you think if Osama call the Whitehouse said "We'll help you with Iran, but don't hunt us or we'll attack you again.", the Whitehouse will say "Okay, let's be friends now. You can kill our people later." ? If you act like an ahole, expect to be treated as one. We didn't tell you to gk or pk, you started the whole thing; do you think this is high school we are targeting you just for fun? Grow up. I warned you to leave town, there are 99 other suburbs for you to piss people off, but you won't. I know it is totally pointless to reason with someone as thick as you. I mean, you showed the world how classy you are by choosing "Columbine Killer" as your handle (excuse me, former handle). I am not going to waste any more of time arguing with you, so go ahead and do whatever you what and blame it on whoever you like, but there are at least 250+ PTT members who want your blood and god knows how many more others. It's nice knowing you, but I sure as hell don't want to be you. --Phater 06:56, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Eric Harris has been killed at The Nisbet Building His body lies outside [1] I would also suggest putting your evidence pictures somewhere they can not be deleted as most of them have been.

Hello from Yagoton!

Just figured the YRC would give a big hello to one of the suddenly impressivley large and newest groups to Malton! Since you are such a large group, you may or may not have trouble with revives. As such, I'd like you to know that the YRC one of the BEST one stop locations for unbiased and open revives. If you or yours should find yourselves too far from Yagoton, please feel free to visit other Revivification Points! Stay safe! --MorthBabid 20:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Extremely Important!!!!

My name is Padre Romero. I'm hoping enough of you can read english to hear this. Caiger mall, at [20,27] in Darvall Heights, May fall tomorrow without your intervention. If you want to be great heroes, get over there quickly, before all is lost.

Everything you read here in Chinese is the same content as in English, yea?

Seems the PTT translator forgot to translate part of the content. I hope I can offer some assistance. =)

Some information we didn't translate because of the security reason; other we didn't just because we are lazy. Feel free to translate the Chinese content, but please do understand I might edit out some of the translation because I don't want to leak the intel. --Phater 20:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I think we need to clean up the mess from dickxxxxguy on the main page, don't you think? How about moving it here? --Darkmiz 08:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

dickhole guy

Clouddff7, This is dickhole guy. Right now caiger mall is in a bad way, and we think that its time that the PTT show these shacknews zombies what your made of. Cloud, go to the NMC boards as soon as possible, because we have to talk Your friend, dickhole guy

Nichols Mall

The RRF plan to attack nichols, thought you all should know, I'm going to mobilize the rangers dickholeguy

Vandalism

Some guy by the name of Punty messed with your page, but I fixed it.--Lachryma 00:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Images

When you upload images (that you will use) but d'not intend to embed them into your page, please use — {{Notorphan|PTT}} — as your upload summary. Thanks. –Xoid ^M•T•FU! 08:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Tsk tsk

I'd advise your members to stop attacking me, because without proof of anything I've done, your members go on PK lists. Then other people go out and pay your members back for killing someone who is not known to be a criminal. I thought I'd have fun like this when I came back, but being able to label your group as killers while I'm at it? Too much fun! By the way, your members have killed me 5 times now as opposed to the two crimes you had screenshots for from me. Am I to assume I will be killed indefinetley for killing two of your members? Oh well, that means I can label more of your members as killers... Torec _T-CC 19:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

That was sexually abusive, I'll have you know. Not good form. Not good form at all... Torec _T-CC 01:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC) And for the record, Phater, you're now on my personal KOS list. I don't normally kill people twice, but in your case I can make an exception. Torec _T-CC 01:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I know it's rude and out of line, but that's exactly the message I want to send. I am a straight shooter, I treat people as they deserved to be treated. We have many names on our red list, but you are the only one that has the audacity to come into our forum to taunt. Plus, you falsely accused our bounty hunters on the DEM pker list, while you know very well you brought our wrath because what you did. And now you the "pker with ethic" (I think this qualify as oxymoron, btw) want to make an exception on me? Go ahead, and tell your little CC friends to do so. I'll have PTT members behind me, and I like the chances. One more thing, this is the last time I am going to respond to you. Dealing with you has brought out the worst of me, and I don't like it.--Phater 03:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

You're a fairly new group, so I can understand if people have not been talking to you. But you're bound to have killers coming here and at least trying to start a friendly banter (As I like to think I did when I initially came to your talk page). You're going to have to get used to that. I was merely glad that you were the first to take note of my existence. Perhaps this is also the best time to tell you that for the most part, the people who play killers are very nice people who respect their fellow players and are nice to them out of character. As long as someone doesn't meet me with open hostility, I will meet them in kind. You just made the mistake of over-reacting. It doesn't help to be mean to people who play killers (or anyone, for that matter), because it just makes you more of a target. *Shrugs* Just some friendly advice. I'm still going to hunt you though. Torec _T-CC 04:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

PTT has been caught zerging on dozen or more occasions. PKing ZHU members when you obviously can't even keep your own in line speaks extremely poorly of you. PTT has killed Torec over the accepted 2 for 1 deal and have stated your intentions to do that forevermore. You then compounded on that with being an offensive lil' prick to Torec. That you used your particular turn of phrase so close to the Ban In-Game Rape petition isn't going to be looked in a kind light, either. Here's a tip, Phater: if you want to argue ethics, you had damn well have more of them the person you're accusing.

As to why no one else has had the 'audacity' to 'taunt' you; ever think it's because people have the strong impression that a vast majority of PTT doesn't speak English? (Gee, I wonder why that might be…) Your generally arrogant nature has been amply demonstrated numerous times on this page ("We're PTT and because we're larger you take it, bitch." type comments — your most recent is far from the first.), perhaps that also discourages people from trying to converse with you?

Finally; get off it. PTT is large, sure, but better than you have fallen. You keep acting like you have, with only asshats like yourself standing out on this talk page as 'representative' of PTT, then PTT had better get ready for serious griefing. Continue as you have been and it will be a matter of time, nothing more. –Xoid ^M•T•FU! 12:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

All it takes is one person to speak out, and the rest will follow. Thank you Xoid for being that first. Torec _T-CC 12:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I apologize for the insulted stuff I said. I was hot, it was inappropriate, I delete it.--Phater 18:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I help moderate the PK Forums at Brainstock (DEM), adding PKers to the Rogues Gallery. We have received PK Reports from Torec Shadecrow which involve some of your group members. At present I am going to suspend PK claims until someone from PTT is available to discuss the situation. _Vordash 02:39, 29 November 2006 (GMT)

They currently have one screenshot of my actions, which was taken after my first two claims. So barring them bringing back their original screenshots that have since been purged, my latest claim should then be a bounty claim, and the other two are PKs. At least that's my take on it Torec _T-CC 04:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Torec, you have to understand that if your going to PK in this area, your going to get killed on sight. Its naive to think otherwise. While I'm not sure what Phater did regarding text rape, The PTT is notorious for taking care of its own, and if you kill one, your on their shit list forever. If you didn't want to be on that list, you shouldn't have killed them. You Can't legitimatley expect that after Killing someone, you'll get protection, or sympathy. I write this because you've killed at least 2 of my Rangers, and while I dont have screenshots, my guys have no reason to lie, so, just know that If you're seen by any rangers, they have orders to kill you on sight, and unless you want discuss this with me on my talk page, you'll remain on the KOS list. --Dickholeguy 06:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

If you can't play your side of the game right and report PKers to a PK list, then expect no sympathy when you get added in return for your 'revenge'. While Torec is a PKer, I see absolutely nothing wrong with her using the PK list: it's not like regular survivors don't do the same, and it's not like there aren't innumerable cases where you [survivors] add someone to your personal 'KOS list' based off the supposed integrity of your mate's claims… only for it to turn out to be complete FUD. Which is the whole reason PK lists exist — you provide proof of your claims or you suck it up. –Xoid ^M•T•FU! 12:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I, too, would like to step-forward and begin my opposition to how this group has conducted itself regarding zerging and PKing. As a Zerg and PK hunter, it is my job to clean Malton whenever I have the opportunity. I don't like cheating. Plain and simple. I've caught numerous zergers with the group tag PTT in the past, I even reported it to this talk page above and I don't know how you can possibly miss it, but it's gone ignored for almost half a month. I got no answer from PTT and I came here thinking the matter could be resolved. I guess not. All PTT does is seemingly look out for it's own and put anyone who wants to stand against you on your shit list, so to speak. Yes, you have a large group, we understand that. But that large group needs management, and when you get reports like these you need to handle them. Just simply implying that you can do whatever you want because of your massive population does not work. It's pretty clear that's how you operate, because there is no way Clobber Girl could ever be on your list any other way. She's a Zerg Hunter, same as myself and definitely one of the best at that. She bountied your buddies and you didn't like it because your members got caught. Viva la Resensitized! Viva la Justice! --Eremes 14:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Woah...Clobber Girl is still on that list? I thought I cleared that up some months ago!(See topic Zerging?) --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 15:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I've seen her kill my guys, and its our group policy to shoot anyone that has PK'd one of our own to knock their heads off until I say stop, and I haven't had enough of watching her die yet. Also, with regards to the text rape, weather it did or did not happen, I can't say, but if your going by Xoid's principal of backing it up, you'd best get a screenshot or suck it up.

As for the PTT and zerging, shacknews does it just as much, case in point: Lunamedic, axeluna, and somethingelse luna, using the c4nt logo --Dickholeguy 17:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

You want proof? We have tons of proof that PTT zergs at Resensitized. Screenshots, profile links, you name it we got it. Don't try to drag shacknews into your predicament. That's just cowardly. I hate it when people whine "But they do it...". B-b-b-bullspit! Clobber Girl kills anyone who pops up on the Zerg listings. Same as myself. The submission that she indeed killed you is because you got caught. Want to dispute it? Head on over to Resenz and do so. We'll be happy to work with you. Don't like being caught? Don't cheat. Simple Your argument is merely another case of what Xoid proposed. That you guys think you can do whatever the hell you want because of sheer number and mass. you want screenshots? you'd better have a lot of time prepared on your hands to look at them all. You've offered the case of a single person. We've got mass amounts more than that pinned on you guys. I wouldn't be surprised if we dug a little deeper we might find a whole lot more. These are just the cases we happen to snap shots of in passing. You don't get on the list without a screenshot and profile link at Resensitized, so you guys got caught fair and square.--Eremes 18:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not in the PTT, but shacknews DOES zerg. And while the PTT does it as well, guess what? its going to happen in any group. I'm sure it happens with shacknews to the same scale that it does with the PTT, but you know why the PTT get caught? their humans. Zombies have the element of disguise, and short of DNA scanning them all, theres no way to tell if theyre zergs or not. What We do know is that theyre members not only zerg, but use a c4nt logo in Gking/Pking and the like. Hell, they've even used The Malton Ranger tag as well. I don't really give a damn about your resenz zerg listing. If your going to do it in the shared PTT/Malton Ranger district, be advised that we have NO QUALMS about killing any of you on sight. As for the PTT and zerging, they kill their own members when caught, they DO NOT need help with that. so, if clobber girl wants to kill, and thinks she can get away with it because someone's on a zerg list, she (and anyone else) has another thing coming. --Dickhole Guy, Leader, Malton Rangers

Quit arguing. I have a quick solution for all this. Somebody who knows the rules and can speak Chinesse fluently translate the rules for PTT. That should discourage them from cheating. --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 22:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

我可以跟她门说中文，他们知道zerging不行--Dickholeguy 01:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I seriously doubt you'll be able to fulfill that role, Dickhole. Cyberbob  Talk  01:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Why? I'm conversationally fluent in mandarin.--Dickholeguy 01:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Apparently you didn't translate zerging... --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 02:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

no word for it in the language, the closest thing in chinese would be "一个人不能有两个人在同的附近“ its a mouthful to say, so I didn't say it--Dickholeguy 02:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not referring to your Chinese skills, Dickhole. Cyberbob  Talk  02:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Well...I would have translated the rules myself since I myself am Chinesse.....but since my computer doesn't have that Chinesse typing thing............But still....if it's a mouthful, then just say it. --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 02:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Would you shut the hell up about calling Shacknews zergers already? First of all, your argument about the survivors' lack of anonymity is flawed. It only matters if they're dumb enough to give all of their characters similar names. Second, think about the simple logistics of a zombie horde using zergs to siege a building. We have to attack to win, and the anti-zerg code would ruin our hit%. You should be happy if you think we're doing it because we're sabotaging ourselves. And even if we did walk our alts into and out of whatever the zerging range is, that is unnecessarally complicated and would waste nearly as much AP as we'd benefit from by having another character to use. Lunatic has explained his situation multiple times but you're clearly too hard-headed to consider it so I won't bother bringing it up further. Please just take a few seconds away from attacking Shacknews and trying to think up new reasons to hate us and try to consider at least some of what I've been trying to tell you. Toxy 17:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Seriously. If Dickhole Guy wants a fair fight, he should convince Kevan to reduce all percentages -- attack, barricading, searching, everything except movement -- to zero for any two characters within a 10-square radius (diagonals included) played by the same IP. Until then, if he wants to call the Shacknews Horde cheaters and zergers, he needs to accept the fact that there have been an order of magnitude more human cheaters and zergers defending any mall we've ever attacked, than there are in our Horde. Period. Chronolith 02:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

See? Told ya. The fact of the matter is, if you want to live by your own rules, then fine. The rest of Malton will submit you to their rules though. That includes acting against your unfair and vastly unresearched KOS list. I've just been killed by another PTT member. As usual, there's no talk, just a kill. You have one screenshot of my kills, and I have four of your bounties. No matter how you slice it, by both major lists, that means I don't have a bounty any more, and I'm now being PKed. Boys, you can continue your fun, I'll just sit back and enjoy watching it. Torec _T-CC 07:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Will both of you stop before one of you starts an arby's case against the other? --Slice 'N' Dicin' Axe Hack 18:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

But it's their fault I eat their food too much! I'm just saying that no one is free from the system, and I'm getting killed. If I don't have a bounty, then...Torec _T-CC 19:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

First,this is my personal talk.Torec,after you did some Pker's work,you think that you can say you were innocence?? NO WAY!! Some of us(include me) were angry for your talk,so we will keep to kill you on sight until you leave shearbank.We don't afriad your revenge.Many of us do revivification job.To kill us just mades other human has less chance to be revived.But for you,if you got killed,you were better to leave Shearbank's RP,because only thing you got is not be revived but a headshot.--Shadow Eagle 22:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

If this was personal, you would have brought your side to my talk page, but since you're putting it in a group's talk page, you open it even more to everyone giving their opinion. I'm not saying I was ever innocent, *shakes her head* Oh my, you don't listen do you? Here's the thing. I don't kill anyone twice. That's mean. I collect my profile and move on. I didn't have anything against your group until you adopted the attitude that you're taking even now. I'm not afraid of you or your group in the least. Funny, I've never gotten a headshot at your revive point... I've actually been revived within about 30 minutes every time. Believe me, your threats are hollow. My girls and I will leave of our own accords, or when Shacknews spoils our fun. Your little suburb is actually a killer's heaven! I've got more kills here than I can fathom getting anywhere else, and your people are so disorganized that you've even healed my girls up on a number of occasions! You're not doing much of a good job at all at holding or managing the suburb, and I'm going to revel in that as long as I see fit. Torec _T-CC 23:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

This is sick. You want to play a PKer, thats fine. But you don't allow other members to kill you back. And most important, you brag about it on our group page. Who do you think you are that we can tolerate that? If you think we're alone, you're wrong. We have lots of allies. And all will see you as a bad and unclassy player, nothing more. --Darkmiz 05:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I do. The only problem is that I use PK lists and you don't. Therefore, I support the notion of justice within bounds. Aka,permanent KOS lists as retaliation to PKs is not acceptable. Like I keep saying, your members hardly ever do anything, so I'm not worried about that. Did you know that it's a big part of metagame that PKers and their targets (especially PKers and bounty hunters) actually talk and get along well outside of the game? The only reason I take on malice here is because I was met with it first. And once again, you may view me as an unclassy player, but I view your entire group as unclassy. Are you all so quick to anger? There's another thing you must know, and do try and make the distinction? PKer Characters = bad people (grrrrr), while PKer Players = good people (for the most part)(yaaaayy). Eventually your members will start to go rouge and kill people for fun (I suspect that some from the real PTT already have). Besides, I also play a dedicated reviver and a dedicated zombie. If you notice, I'm not even running around killing your members right now. I'm running around killing the people you're supposed to be protecting from me. You know? I have a feeling that I'm going to start coming back to Shearbank more often, because you're all just so hospitable. *rolls eyes* Torec _T-CC 13:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

So.. as you say, you have your ROLE-PLAY freedom,then so do we.UD author didn't decide how to deal PKer.Since PKlists is not game rule as permanent KOS list.Why do we must follow it?? So stop your talk here,I am sick enough.--Shadow Eagle 16:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

You don't have to follow it at all. But expect to be killed more (thus making things harder - you might have to make a few more accounts each) often if you don't. That's all anyone's saying. Cyberbob  Talk  16:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Well,like Torec's talk,"Believe me, your threats are hollow."--Shadow Eagle 16:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Torec, if you use the PK lists, you'll find yourself on them, so please do us all a favor and jump out a window. that being said, Spy has a point, if someone reports you as a PKer with a valid screenshot, even if they are PKers liek Torec, you run the risk of being PK'd albeit unfairly. However, I doubt anyone in stickling or shearbank that is fighting the good fight will care that you kill Torec. --Dickholeguy 16:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

No threats, Shadow. I'm just pointing out how PK lists work. Cyberbob  Talk  16:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

That's your rule,not mine.As you know,PTT is a large group,if Torec did'nt afriad us,why did I must afriad your guys.Besides,that's my ROLE-PLAY freedom,as Torec's talk.--Shadow Eagle 16:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. You stick to your rules, and I'll stick to mine, OK? I'm not threatening you, Shadow. I'm simply pointing out how PK lists work, and what you can expect if you PK people willy-nilly. Cyberbob  Talk  16:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

That's right.Since UD author didn't decide how to deal PKer,then you do your ROLE-PLAY and I do mine.So.. please stop your talk ok?? It's not really your business.--Shadow Eagle 17:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Neither is it yours. If people PK you, is it really your business to PK them back? After all, if UD author didn't decide how to deal PKer, what place do you have trying to? Cyberbob  Talk  17:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Well,according UD's background,MALTON must be chaos city,did'nt it.NO offical rule here.All rules were define by players.Some guys like your rule,PKlist.When they were murdered,they will report to your guys.But also some guys like as I,believe blood to blood,then we will follow the rule,permanent KOS list.All were fine,because it's ROLE-PLAY Game. I respond Torec just because her talk really mades me sick and nothing more.By the way,something surpises to me,if your guys dislike PKer,why did you talk for Torec.--Shadow Eagle 17:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

*ahem* her talk. Her. As in a woman. As in one of the main rules of my group. I don't believe I've ever said that I don't like being killed, or that I'm mad at you for being killed, I'm merely trying to open your eyes and point you to the most-used channels, which I am using. Eventually your group may be seen by the community as a PKer group, and that's not a good thing. This is especially true when you're killing people who try and uphold important principles of the game, such as the zerge hunters. And this "we're not afraid of you" talk only works for groups who, by nature, are isolated. If PTT takes an isolationist stance towards other survivor groups in UD, it won't bode well for them at all. Torec _T-CC 17:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

*shakes his head* Oh my, you don't listen do you? Here's the thing.You have your ROLE-PLAY freedom,then so do we.That's all.--Shadow Eagle 17:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

*shakes her head* Oh my, you don't listen do you? Here's the thing, you have your ROLE-PLAY freedom, but there are consequences for choices you make while roleplaying. Torec _T-CC 18:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

*shakes his head* Well,then you got your consequence and I got mine.Maybe I should exit PTT to join your group,our thought were so similar.*smile* --Shadow Eagle 18:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure. You don't seem to be able to understand the concept of fun. Torec _T-CC 19:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

What did you mean?? These are something I learn. 1."There were no real dead in UD,so any threats are hallow" 2."Doing ROLE-PLAY is very funny,and I will accept consequence". Would you add it? *smile*--Shadow Eagle 19:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Picking through this grammar, I assume you think those two points are my stances. To clarify, there CAN be threats in UD. You can be constantly killed and kept down, effectively making your character useless. In this regard your group is doing next to nothing to threaten me to stop PKing. Next, there's a difference between "fun" and "funny." I think that roleplaying is "fun," and that your group is "funny." There are really no consequences for me. Being killed comes with the territory. I've just been trying to make it clear to your group that if it you do not use the major PKing lists, such as the ones at Brainstock and Resensitized, you will be killed by the general populace. On top of that, killing zerge hunters is not advisable, because no matter how closely you look, your members will zerg. If a hunter links back to the zerg lists on Resens, they'll be able to produce a screenshot of your members abusing the rules, and you can contest claims if needed. You can't do everything in an island of "we're big, so we do things our way," because that leads to actions that are counter-intuitive of the goals of survivor groups. Clear? Torec _T-CC 19:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I disagree your words.First,if you stay Shearbank long enough,you will know famous Gker/PKer Eric Harris.He did his work so long,everytime we kill him then someone revive him.Even now he was revived less,but he can play zombie very well.So "There CAN'NT be threats in UD". Second,why did you think I must stay in PTT forever,I can become zombie to join ShackNew,maybe do some Gker's or Pker's work,that's no loss to me. Anyway, this is just a game,relex Ok?? This is something I learn from you. *smile again* --Shadow Eagle 19:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I had read about Eric Harris even before I had stayed here very long. If your group really wanted him to stay down, you could kill him every time he stands. You could have watchdogs who monitor revive points for him, etc. In that way you could do damage to his progress. I didn't say you couldn't leave PTT, I said what I said because I think that you don't have the state of mind to play a dedicated killer. Just a note, throughout all of this, I have been calm. I've been playing this game for over a year, so conflict or conversations like this don't phase me much any more. One other note, the only reason that you need to put the nowiki tags around *'s is that when one of them starts a line, you get a bullet.

• See? I can put another one here: * and it won't do anything. Just so you don't worry yourself over every little thing you're writing. Torec _T-CC 20:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I didn't often write article at wiki page.Thanks for teaching me that.By the way,speaking to you is very funny.You know,my English is poor,so I did'nt ever think that talk someone so much. *smile again* --Shadow Eagle 20:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes it just takes experimentation to learn these things, and others it's just as useful to have someone tell you. Do you see now what I've been trying to get across? I'm a nice person, and as long as you're not being mean to me, I'm not mean to you. It's a fairly simple concept. *shrugs* What can I say? Sometimes I'm talkative. Torec _T-CC 20:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you were nice guy,I am not sure.But oneday I stay in PTT,I will kill people that are on red list.If it let you confuse,then I apologize for that.This is just because I want to do my ROLE-PLAY well. I think you can understand that. *smile* --Shadow Eagle 20:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I am a nice woman. I have no problem with individuals acting out what their group prescribes them to do, and don't have much against them. I'm mostly trying to influence PTT's policies in general. I don't think I need to repeat my points again, but PTT needs to become more active in the community, perhaps you could appoint a member to report PKs and bounty claims to these lists? That would solve most of the issues that I came here the second time about. Pah, thank you for helping the day go by a little faster, I'm usually bored out of my mind during the days. Torec _T-CC 20:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

As you know,our group didn't have leader.Most our actions were suggested by some members,any of us want to do, then do it.We can defend Shearbank so long, just because most of our members dislike zombies.Everytime someone suggest a action,most members will join.But How long was this state keeping? I am not sure. Maybe someday, someone like to play zombie,then he will exit PTT. About your suggestion,I just say,most of our member even didn't look Wiki... maybe you can talk your suggestion to cloudff7 friendly. He was our diplomatist. *smile* --Shadow Eagle 21:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Allow me to jump in here. Torec, you have to understand that there aren't very many guys in the PTT that speak english, and shadows english is about as good as my chinese is, and having been on their forums, I can tell you that they get angry when you kill them, and while you might raise good points about PKing being fun, your going to be killed regardless because your on their shit list. As for eric harris, yes, they could have watchdogs, but what would be the FUN in that? no matter how you look at it, you've pissed them off, and unless you issue a formal apology, pledge to stop doing it, and stop doing it, your going to die. --Dickholeguy 02:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I know that a lot of people who haven't played the game long gets mad when someone is killed. I was there once. Also, I totally agree that the Eric Harris thing. I was just trying to prove a point. I would really like to stress once again that I have no intention of turning back on my ways. *Laughs a little* Noooope! I'm used to and love the lifestyle. It's not like I'm going to be in Shearbank forever... I'm not the head of a regular survivor group, after all. Torec _T-CC 03:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

PTT holds their grudges for far too long. I remember when my PKing adventure first started, too. I really wish people could be more pleasant when conversing. It's not like I can PK anyone on the wiki. --Eric Harris 05:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Well,Eric Harris,please understand,Not everyone was like as you,me,Torec that know this is just a ROLE-PLAY GAME.When someone was PKed by you,his angry was normal,especially those guys that act ROLE-PLAY too deep.So .. if you want to stop conflict with PTT,maybe you should talk to cloudff7 friendly,and give these people who you kill a regular apology.That time maybe you would be removed from our red list,then all conflict will stop.--Shadow Eagle 06:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I understand completely. However, theres really nowhere I can run, now. My character is pretty much stuck as an all-around GK/PK menace, when all I ever really intended was to be a gimmick pk'er. In admittibly poor taste, too, if you've ever seen my in-game profile. I've been labeled an in-game terrorist. The sad thing is, I rather like having Shearbank hating me. It adds a level of entertainment that urbandead is often otherwise lacking. I can also probe the weak spots that the area has, and I gave some advice along those points when the bash was approaching. I even attempted to help keep the genny's running, but no matter what, I'm a GK/PK. I've accepted that. Reactions from people who can't understand that this is a simple little game are really the only reason I've kept playing as Eric for so long. --Eric Harris 07:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

After I know this is just a ROLE-PLAY GAME *yeah I am awaken*,I think nobody was real wrong in UD.All of us just do ROLE-PLAY well.Since UD has no official rule,then permanent KOS list was suitable as PKlists,Pker,Gker.For ROLE-PLAY,A large group was normal that has a enemy.So.. you can think those people on red list were PTT's enemy.Until they stop their behaviors and give us a regular apology,we will keep killing them.I hope this explain satisfy you.--Shadow Eagle 07:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

After a lot of discussion by the PK Mod's at Brainstock it has been decided that further PK attacks perpetrated on the character of Torec Shadecrow will be accepted and the PKer will be added to the RG. While we appreciate that each group may wish to role play in their own manner it should be also be noted that this will result in interaction with alternative groups who role play differently. The Rogues Gallery PK List is operated on a neutral basis, we do not take sides. The list is operated on a basis of assigning penalties (Bounties) per PK event perpetrated. When all Bounties have been collected the 'character' is considered to have paid for their crime/s, and is no longer available to be hunted, until such time as they re-offend. It has been noted that PTT are not innocent of PKing crimes as reports have been added on some of their members for killing character who have not/do not even appear on the PTT PK lists and as such do not conform to their own (PTT) rules of role play. We do not intend to 'police' Malton, however as PTT is free to role play, so are others who do use our RG listings. This decision has not been taken lightly and has been implemented with the intention of allowing both sides to start off with a clean slate as far as the RG is concerned._Vordash 23:31, 07 December 2006 (GMT)

PTT members enforce UD-Rules and PTT-Rules, nothing else. Make your PK List an UD Rule, then we will follow it. Before that, all killing toward PTT members will be considered as an insult, and shall not be tolerated. All bounty-hunters, you are warned. The way to keep self away from our wanted list is not to do any crime in our sight. For those who are already on the list, an officially appoligy or a good explaination plus one month clean record would help. --Smore 02:02, 8 December 2006 (U

If you guys won't agree to come to some kind of compromise, then the kills will keep on coming, and this thing'll escalate. Is that what you want? Cyberbob  Talk  11:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

It would amuse me, at least. I just noticed it is PTT's practice to put characters who gk AS ZOMBIES into their KOS lists. That might actually be a gray area.--Eric Harris 12:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

See what I mean about isolationism? It only comes back to bite you in the butt later on. Torec _T-CC 15:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

New Action of PTT

New News will put at here.streitleak 15:33,Dec 9,2006(GMT)

While You Were Out

Rheingold 09:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Haha. That was good. Could have used something of a "Im in ur base ransackin ur NT!!1" Torec _T-CC 15:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The Second Holy War is Over. You Lose.

"Shacknews and some zombie groups may siege the Shearbank suburb recently. To all brave PTT warriors,prepare yourself and usher the studid and unorganized attack from these evil groups. The second wave of the Holy war is upcoming!! --Clouddff7PTT 23:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)"

First of all, you misspelled the word "stupid". Second, if Shacknews is stupid and unorganized, then why is half of Stickling Mall ransacked right now, 11 days after we first attacked the Whippey Building? Why did the PTT, which is larger than the Shacknews Horde, turn tail and flee like cowards before we attacked Stickling Mall even once? Why did you leave all of your friends and allies to die?

The Second Holy War you so craved is over. You lost. Enjoy the bitter taste of defeat. Chronolith 18:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually according to the timestamps the order to retreat (14:50) was given after we ransacked the first corner (07:56). I ate quite a few PTT guys in the SW corner ;) Rheingold 19:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't realize that -- thanks for setting me straight on that. However, my original point stands: the PTT has 200+ humans at its disposal, to say nothing of the 600+ humans in the rest of the mall. I was expecting at least some kind of resistance... I didn't think we could ransack the SW corner in one night, but I figured it would be worth a shot. Chronolith 21:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Yep... they didn't abandon the mall prematurely, but they sure didn't do everything they could have done to prevent a ranshack last night. A ranshack today would have been inevitable but at least they'd have had time to tell the feral survivors and their C4NT allies to get out. Ditching without telling anyone just shows they have no class, just like the drama war they got into about how they don't have to follow the PK rules because they're so big and they will come after you, BOO! :rolleyes: Rheingold 00:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

What I want to know is, who were we fighting in Whippey? Now THAT was some hot Worthy Opponent Action. Please don't tell me that the only things that can even slow the Shack down are zergs and barricade-bots. --New Coldness 21:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Mostly feral survivors or anyone who felt like coming in for that, you met stiffer resistance because it was much easier for your average survivor to freerun one square north, use their ammo and AP, and then hightail it back to the mall. Some random PTT may have been there, but they certainly didn't stay and get eaten like most of the whippey defenders.--Danalov 04:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, whomever was holding down Whippey did an awesome job of it. I was seriously wondering if we'd be able to take it, only a few hours before night we ransacked it. The human veterans who helped defend Whippey have a lot to be proud of: they held off a far larger and more experienced force than the one the Latrobe Building faced near Caiger Mall, for almost as long. And they kept it pretty classy, for the most part: there was little evidence of barricade botting, compared to what we saw at Caiger Mall. The PTT are the ones who ultimately failed to live up to the hype: they abandoned their teammates once the going got rough. Chronolith 20:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Well,I must say your guys do a good job and you select a good time to attack.I admit that we don't prevent your attack effectively,but it's just because most of our members were offline when you attacking.Most of us are young man and we will go outside to play at holiday.For us,UD is a great game,but not our whole life.--Shadow Eagle 07:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Urban Dead is only a game for most of the ShackHorde, as well. It just so happens that most of us are on EST time, which means we can do a lot of damage because all of us are available to play at the same. To be perfectly honest, it's very difficult to defend against our attacks... not because the game is skewed in our favor, but because we attack all at once. The humans at Whippey did a hell of a job keeping us out -- they were probably our greatest challenge to date, and we believe they played by the books (minimal zerging). We tip our hats to the humans who fell defending Whippey -- you guys were, by and large, a classy bunch of humans. Chronolith 20:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, Shacknews and the other groups accompanying them did a supurb job. That was a fun battle, except for how fast stickling fell...pretty lame. I have a basic idea of who you were facing in the whippey cause I was there every day it was under seige and when it fell. You had very little PTT.....less then I would expect...mostly men from the NMC and survivor ferals were the brave souls keeping the barricades up. People from the mall would come in and clear out the zombies, but they would also waste their time shooting zeds outside. I want you guys to take a peek at this----> http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Anti_siege_strategy It was written by exonecro and has a very valid point.Think about it and spread it around to every survivor group if you think it will be helpful. -- Abraxaslotus 11:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

It's dangerous to follow a single strategy without adapting it to suit the needs unique to a given situation. The Barricade. Kill. Heal. Dump. strategy proved very effective in keeping us from taking Whippey. But there were some flaws in it, which I will share with you in another week or so, once we've completed our next campaign. The Shacknews Horde tries different things during each siege, when our old strategies prove ineffective. The main problem with your strategy is that it didn't change to adapt to our new strategy, which is the only reason why Whippey fell. Chronolith 20:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

*shrug* I admit your guys do a good job,but I don't think how glory it is. In fact,I think this game give zombie group too much advantages. Let me see,a zombie group can use.... 1.Gker:destory genarators,it will make survivors spend more AP to search another,or they will spend more AP to search resources. 2.ZED Spy:scout buildings and break barraides by using crowbar. 3.ZERG:generate zombie horde,it will make survivors spend more AP and Ammo to clear buildings. When a zombie group use those actions,I cann't think any reason that they will fail.Maybe oneday I can show you how fast a subrub is fall,if our members agree to play zombies.--Shadow Eagle 22:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Well thanks for calling us cheaters, but Shacknews doesn't zerg. The anti-zerg code is supposed to mess up the hit% of characters when they're too close together. So while we COULD generate a huge zombie horde by zerging, we wouldn't be able to hit anything with them. And the reason for the massive GKing at Stickling was because of the massive human use of CRing and other random revives. Also our research has shown that the crowbar, in practice, is actually less effective than zombie claws are. Sorry to rain on your parade, but zombies DON'T have too many advantages and we DIDN'T cheat to take down Stickling. Toxy 03:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, there's more than one way to zerg. Instead of controlling multiple zed characters, you can move a newly created zed character into a breached building as "meat shield". While this character does not attack or move in any way (which in turn does not contribute to the hit % penalty), it does increase the "standing zombies" count in the building which makes it harder to clear the room. I have personally seen this tactic used around Nisbet building. While trying to fight off the breach, I noticed there were several level 1 zombie with close to 0 XP came through the door, and never do anything again once they are inside. Does this constitute zerging? You tell me.--Phater 19:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you see members of Shacknews defending zerging or zergers? No? Then why the fuck would they zerg… oh wait, they don't. Nice try, chump. –Xoid ^M•T•FU! 23:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I gotta give you forum trolls some props. You like to get into any argument, whether it concerns you or not. If you are so smart, why don't you answer my question then? Why is it when a building is breached, in the group of zeds that came through the hole, other than the ones I've been fighting against (I know this because I do keep a list of all zed I've met), I can always see several Level 1, 0 XP zeds that created less than a week ago. I guess these newly created zeds just happen to be at the right place at the right time, yes? And maybe you are too busy defending your dearly Shacknews that you didn't see I DIDN'T accuse Shacknews for anything? Fact is, I don't even know who to accuse. All the level 1 zeds have some random ID and no description nor group tag. Which is why I think it's very clever, it makes it harder to clear the building, does not cause hit % penalty, and totally untraceable. I mentioned this just to counter the point Toxy made about zombie zerging won't work because the anti-zerging code. Also, FYI, they do zerg (or some of them do). Like the luna guy, who has lunaAxe, lunamedic, lunashack, and whatever luna. Only difference is they are smart enough to take out the group tag when doing this.--Phater 08:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

You're right about newly-created zeds being in the right place at the right time. Shacknews organizes and deploys local ferals. Ferals are mostly low-level. They come in when we breach a building so they can eat survivors and get XP. This is why we spray a link to the ferals' blog all over the place whenever we go to a new suburb; we want the weight of every zombie in that suburb, no matter how young, behind our assault. As for Luna, his alts are all over the place. He never has them in the same location (except one time when his alts were near each other when he was evacuating Caiger). That's not zerging. --New Coldness 02:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Caiger Mall

Greetings PTT. Its Dickhole guy, leader of your allies, the Malton Rangers. We recently came to your aid in stickling, and right now we have an unprecedented opportunity to retake caiger mall. giddings isn't worth trying to hold, and right now If the PTT came to our aide we could win the fight. therefore, I'm calling in a favor, and asking you all to please consider coming to caiger, and destroying that which is the caiger resistance front. --Dickhole Bonaparte _{Leader, Malton Rangers} 18:52, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Seriously guys, we need help. Don't hole up in stickling, come defend your allies--General Lee A. Dickhole _{Malton Rangers} 23:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Giddings Mall

As you may or may not know, The Big Bash and the Shacknews horde started to siege our mall complex about a week ago. We are trying to round up as many survivors as we can, so we can put our foot down here! I apologize if the English-Chinese translation is bad, it was run through the Babelfish Translator --DJSMITH^CDF 19:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

正如您所知或不可以, Big Bash 并且 Shacknews 群众开始围困我们的购物中心复合体一个星期前。我们设法召集许多个幸存者如同我们罐头, 因此我们能把我们的脚放下这里! 我道歉如果英国中国翻译是坏, 它跑了通过 Babelfish Translator --DJSMITH^CDF 19:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

正如您所知或不可以, Big Bash 並且Shacknews 群眾開始圍困我們的購物中心複合體一個星期前。我們設法召集許多個倖存者如同我們罐頭, 因此我們能把我們的腳放下這裡! 我道歉如果英國中國翻譯是壞, 它跑了通過 Babelfish Translator --DJSMITH^CDF 19:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey...Zombahz need to get their Xmas shopping done too ya know. You may not have noticed, but every time a harman group decides to "put it's foot down", we chew it off. It might be in your best interests to apply your "river tactics" and worry about regrouping later when we have finished our shopping, eh? - Shamblin' Sam

(Please note that this comment was in respose to Phater's invitation to use this discussion page)

There's difference between looting and shopping, Sam. We harman have strict rule about paying for the merchandise, last I check all you zed do is smash and grab. And no tip.--Phater 18:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC) :(

We pay by keeping the entrances of the mall free of barricades. How are customers going to get into the mall and shop if the entrances are blocked by barricades? Then when we are not paid for our work, we take things out of the mall in compensation. --New Coldness 02:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

If your going to kill people for not playing by the rules, PLAY BY THEM YOURSELF!

I find it wonderfully amusing that you seem to have a fetish for PKing people for not following what you, and most other people call, fair play. When you are going to punish people for this, then perhaps you should have a look at what your own members do before persecuting others. I see several people on your lists for "Killing zombies at a revival point", which is apparently punishable by death, if the constant killing of players like Svenson777 by PTT members is anything to go by. I was killed by RiddlyEcho (http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=701410) in a revive point[[2]]. Yes, i have zombie skills, yes, i also have survivor skills. They're both maxed out because i enjoy both sides of playing the game. Dont practice what you punish.--Danalov 07:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Mall Tour going into the SSZ

The Mall Tour is currently heading to Woodroffe Mall in Tollyton. If your group is planning on joining in, I would suggest contacting members of the Zone Defenders. My group is waiting at Hildebrand Mall, which is probably best suited to defend a siege. --Sexy Rexy Grossman 21:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Crusade 2008

To the PTT,

The Crusade of 2008 would like to cordially invite you to join us in a large-scale foray into zombie territory. I have been selling this idea to other groups as a "Survivor Big Bash" and will continue to do so as that is the concept I'm going for.

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Crusade_%2708

The goal: Stage an offensive into the various zombie territories of Malton, see some famous places (Blackmore, Caiger, Dakertown), fight zombies, etc. It has been discussed that the Extinction Zone could be repulsed many suburbs back.

As well, we shall be participating in the 5th of November. If we can survive in Ridleybank, the Extinction Zone should be no problem.

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/5th_of_November/2008

It is scheduled to start on the 20th of October, and I hope that you don't dismiss this out of hand because I am a member of the CGR.

Thank you for your time.

--Secruss^|Yak|Brahnz!|CGR|PKA||EMLN|Templates|RRF|RFTM|Crap|WHOZ||MU|GN|C2008||01:01, 24 September 2008 (BST)

The Umbrella Corporation

Though we are both dominant groups in the suburb of Shearbank we never had any really contact. Care to change? :)--Thadeous Oakley 16:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

The UBCS

We noticed you are having some PKer problems like us... Care to talk privately?

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Umbrella_UBCS/index.php?act=idx

--Haliman - Talk 04:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

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