User talk:Vantar

Older messages have been moved to archive Please add new messages under a new heading and place them at the bottom of the page. Thanks - Vantar 01:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Something I thought you should see

This, which seems pretty close to vandalism actually considering it's a stones throw away from him making accounts under different IPs and voting for himself. --Karek^maps?! 20:29, 18 April 2008 (BST)

I'm serious, Karek. If you want, I can provide a screenshot of the IM. Or do you want his screenname also? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 20:31, 18 April 2008 (BST)

haha the goons must be loving this. look, its apparently the same thing DCC did with all her goon pals. "Hey goonies, go vote against this doofus" or whatever. Just look at the last votes for him. Axe, just let them ride. Most of the sysops seem smart enough to figure out those last few bunches of "against" votes don't mean a damn thing. --

Showcase^Talk 20:38, 18 April 2008 (BST)

Just in case, I'll just provide this as proof that I did convince a friend. I'm sorry for all the highlighting, but he's writing in white, which is annoying since Meebo doesn't show background colors... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 20:41, 18 April 2008 (BST)

Heh Heh....

Thanks man. Sorry bout that, I've got a rep to- wait, no I don't. Let's go with I was high. Yeah, that.....--Officer 123satsitx 18:58, 12 April 2008 (BST)

BLAHHHHHHFGGGAAK

HAHAHA omg that was quick. IS this your life? Do you sit here all day and night just watching these pages? LOL. I love you. You make me feel good about myself. hahahaha. HAVE FUN DELETING MY PAGE. --Scurley7 13:18, 4 April 2008 (BST)

LOL durlet dyou drunk. srttle down ou driunk fuck. im syspop hyou die biw.--Nallan (Talk) 13:25, 4 April 2008 (BST)

I thikn the zobies win urandam dead.ddddddddddddddddddddd aaaaaaaaah.gjafwon urban dead

--Nallan (Talk) 13:27, 4 April 2008 (BST)

RE: A message about talk pages

So then howcome The Grimch said editing someone's comments was impersonation? I ain't missing his point. Treviabot92 04:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Unused Images

Can you not delete those Whitmore Building charts please? -- boxy • talk • 13:06 2 December 2007 (BST)

Sure an particular reason? - Vantar 13:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll make a page for them. It just seems like a waste of effort to just loose the data. You can rip into the NT scan screenshots though, I guess -- boxy • talk • 13:10 2 December 2007 (BST)

Heh, we seem to have duplicated our efforts in this. I hate deleting unused images... far to lenient I am. I just hate deleting stuff permanently, unless it's of absolutely no interest whatsoever -- boxy • talk • 13:24 2 December 2007 (BST)

Yeah thats part of the reason I'm sticking to the really old stuff, I figured I would trim down to around august 07. Doesn't undeletion work for images? because I'm pretty sure these aren't that permanently gone. - Vantar 13:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Unless Kevan has updated the wiki lately, I think they're gone for good -- boxy • talk • 13:53 2 December 2007 (BST)

You right, i just tried it.You can restore the image description but not the image, that not really that helpful - Vantar 13:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Broken link

On your user page, under Special:Uncategorizedpages, near the very bottom. +1 -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 02:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes and I am very glad it broke, Im keeping it to serve as an example to all the other broken pages on Special:Uncategorizedpages that don't feel like being deletable - Vantar 02:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Archive O'Clock

Yay! Too bad I don't get that time zone in my area of the wiki :(--Karek^maps?! 02:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it's kinda of like daylight savings time some places just don't have it- Vantar 02:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

:D

Thanks for categorizing the CommandBios; I forgot <.<. /give Vantar cookie. <3 --dudemeister 23:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Move

I appreciate it. --Akule ^{School's in session.} 00:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

no problem. The page seems popular 3 votes and I haven't even updated the news box yet - Vantar 00:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit: nevermind you beat me to it :) - Vantar 00:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Yup! I wanted to get it out there and just see how many people are interested in it. --Akule ^{School's in session.} 00:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Moderation

I guess i am supposed to warn you that you are running for a Bureaucrat. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 00:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

A Deal?

Due to your kindness Inundantia will not harm anything within your kindgdom--Death Valley Driver 00:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, that's very kind of you- Vantar 00:13, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats good, Inundantia scares the crap out of me!--James M. McGee 22:55, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

The worst location ever: Pridmore Way School

Erm, how should this be blocked? I'm thinking that making this into a disambiguation might work, but the content applies to both. Duplicate the content on both new locations or get rid of it? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 21:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking of moving the page that is there to somewhere else and making Pridmore Way School into a disambig linking to Pridmore Way School 10,96 & Pridmore Way School 13,96 but that ran into the problem of where to move the current content to. Its too developed to warrant deletion and it is relevant enough and of high enough quality to be kept in the main name space.- Vantar 22:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Two location blocks? That template would have to be mangled to get a left and right alignment.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 22:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

No two separate pages, technical I should have label that diambigless instead of blockless - Vantar 22:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Keep the content on the disambig? Except almost no one will see it.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Been there. Done that. You, block them. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 22:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Done - Vantar 22:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:"Screenshoots"

Just thought I'd let you know, I think you made a mistake with adding a whole bunch of images to the category "screenshoots". I'm almost certain you meant "screenshots" but I'll leave it to you to fix it, haha. Yeah, I'm lazy.--Nick 04:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah crap...Yeah your right, though technically i didn't make the mistake I just spread it around more, i copy/pasted the category name straight from the Category Tree and didn't bother to proofread it first. Nice catch, I'm glad you got it before I did more- Vantar 04:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

So, is that image category stuff decided now? Meaning I can start categorizing images?-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I think so, but am not certain that's why I started with the lest complicated category first. - Vantar 04:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Hrm. If this is the current plan, it's overcomplicated.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Not really Location images could be handled a little better but thats about it - Vantar 04:55, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I suppose you're right. Location images should probably just be: Location images. Also, what if a character plays both "Outlaw" and "Zombie" equally? Do we incorporate both categories? Weapons and equipment should probably be combined to make: Items. Yes, no, maybe? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 05:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

No, Maybe, No. There will some day be ~10,000 images in Location images so if you are looking for a certain image some sub cats are a must, I just don't like weeding out TRps and non TRps. I have no clue what the outlaw category is to be used for, how do we tell a Pk character art from civilain art, its the zombie apocalypse everyone has guns and crazed look in their eye.as for equipment you find there are a lot of images of guns and weapons are most likely what people will be looking for so were are making if easy to browse- Vantar 05:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Mmkay. So keep it as is unless something turns up?-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 17:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

THat been my plan so far - Vantar 17:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm assuming that any art used solely for PKer groups would be considered to be in the outlaw category. I really like that category name too. It fits quite well. --Akule ^{School's in session.} 19:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration Discussion

Please stop by, It not only effects most users, it effects Sysops directly.--Karek^maps?! 17:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Image Categorisation

I think we're ready to start in on categorising the wiki's images, please read the instructions on that page, and then if there are any further questions, ask on the talk page (or my own page). We've got a big job ahead :) -- boxy • talk • 01:19 2 December 2007 (BST)

Congrats

Just wanted to give ya a crat congrat. I amuse myself too much! anywho, kudos--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks^{Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens} 09:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Aw, I wanted to be the first person to congratulate you. Anyway, good luck with the new position! --Z. slay3r • Talk 15:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC) Thanks both of you - Vantar 18:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I expect $$ for my vote. Congratz! -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 18:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

MOAR $$ plz kthx. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 02:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, good luck. - Whitehouse 23:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your nomination. I'm glad my vote could help. I look forward to seeing your energy put forth around the wiki. --Akule ^{School's in session.} 00:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

High fives from me! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 07:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I just deleted a "joke" page put up by redrum, regarding DK13, and used to spread nothing but complete rubbish and lies. There are also several instances of my own original artwork and photographs being used without permission. How come i get a warning? Thats some kind of joke right? --MK 00:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure this type of stuff isn't impersonation? It can make people look like complete retards and is also incredibly misleading. (Yes, I like using the same header).-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge pages?

I'm utterly confused, and Gnome said that you might know the answer to this one. Could you please stop by my talk page and take a look at the pothole I seem to have stepped into? --_└^Frozen_┘^┌_Flame^┐ 00:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting the ball rolling on updating the Location Style Guide. Since I'm still so new to this community, I'm just going to wait it out until it's updated. After that I'll get back to implementing whatever method is decided.--_└^Frozen_┘^┌_Flame^┐ 16:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Location pages

I've noticed how some locations have their own pages (like Freake Grove) and some are part of a grouped page, such as Gatley Drive. Should all related locations in a suburb (eg. streets) share a suburb block type page, or should they have their own individual page? I am just cleaning up some wiki pages in the NW area (Dakerstown, Jensentown...) and need to know what policy I should adhere to, especially since a lot of the links in the 3x3 map on location pages are broken (see: Seamour Crescent) due to the variation in styles from suburb to suburb. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.--Nick 01:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)--Nick 22:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

TooMuchDrama

Feel free. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 14:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm posting this here just because it seems an appropiate heading for it to go under, I just wanted to say that I appreciated your ruleing on the Mobius Spam issue. I was glad to see I wasn't the only person out there that didn't think it was spam, but was actually relevant material that had been customized ffor each page. Again thank you for baing an Admin your work is appreciated.--Mr NoName001 02:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Kooks Promotion

He needs a sysop vouch before his bid can be moved; I didn't see one. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 02:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

And he only has one vouch from a user with over 200 contribs. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 02:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

First Ruining of Fort Creedy

Can you help me flesh it out, any info you can provide? Any tips for wording/balance? Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 02:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the wikification. Nalikill ^{TALK E! W! M! USAI} 03:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for adding my journal archive to the right category. I didn't even know there was a "journal archive" category. -- BackBraker 05:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

vandalism

quick question. would this edit be condsidered vandalism?--'BP^Tmz 07:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes- Vantar 07:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

thanks.--'BP^Tmz 07:16, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

A/PM

Karek's bid for promotion is ready to deal with. I notice you haven't stated a position, so I will leave it up to you to review the submissions and make a decision if you're happy to. I've stated my thoughts on the bid already. If you want to discuss it further, feel free to leave a message on my talk page, or email me via the wiki -- boxy ^{talk • i} 13:45 20 January 2008 (BST)

Broken Link

You ended up breaking my link to my toe tags picture for the implemented suggestion of toe tags. Can we get it back, or should I re-upload? --Akule ^{School's in session.} 16:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that, undeletion doesn't play well with images so reloading is your best bet. Since links images are mostly ignored by Special:Unusedimages you may want to include the image on a subpage to keep it from getting back on the scheduled deletion list - Vantar 17:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll just add it to my userpage. I'll have to find it again and re-upload. --Akule ^{School's in session.} 17:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandal Account/IP address block?

I recently got a message on the wiki warning me about "vandalism". On trying to access your page or edit my own, I got a message saying my IP was blocked because a user, "lesantdavida" used my IP as a vandal account. I usually use a public connection through my college dorm, and I would hate to have to walk to Starbucks just to use the wiki. Is there any remedy to this situation?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hardcore Rockabilly (talk • contribs) 19:07, 4 February 2008.

RE: Vandalism Warning

Thanks for unblocking that IP. I'm part of the DEM, so I think messing with DEM pages would be kind of counter-productive, eh? Thanks for your help. --Hardcore Rockabilly 01:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha

Gotcha! There's so many. I want to cry. :( -- Cheeseman ^W!RandomTalk 17:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Will do. I'll try and get a chunk of them done now. -- Cheeseman ^W!RandomTalk 17:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Fiction?

This whole game is fiction. What makes one thing worthy of the category and one thing not? And is this whole game fiction? I mean its real in a sense. Btw i'm not disputing that the Great Fire article is fiction, just curious as to how the category is so empty...and why is the gnome in it?--x o x o 11:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm fiction. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 18:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Anything that happened either before the outbreak or involves events that clearly never happened get placed into Category:Fiction. There isn't that much back story on the wiki so the category is rather bare. Also the Category is rather new so a lot of older fiction was never added into to. As for the gnome, I guess there is no such thing.- Vantar 01:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

You could always hop through the UDWiki:Lexicon and mark up some of those.--Karek^maps?! 13:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Demotions

Could you look in on A/DM, specifically at Darths demotion request, please -- boxy ^{talk • i} 05:13 23 February 2008 (BST)

Promotions

Krazy Monkey's promotion bid is ready for a ruling. I could go either way on this, on the one hand, he's very active, helpful, and seems impartial. On the other he hasn't shown much interest in policy discussions, and often makes a few basic editing mistakes (usually to do with linking). Whatever you decide is fine with me -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:14 27 February 2008 (BST)

His work tends to be of the janitorial variety so I don't think his lack of policy discussion will that big of a problem. He seems to understand the queues and the community didn't mention any lack of trust in is janitoring so Ive added him to the op team. - Vantar 11:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you promote 73 while boxy is awol ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 06:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Lexicon

Hey I just got back on the wiki after a year of absense and I saw your invitation to the lexicon, I was wondering how one could go about reviving the whole project, it seems indecent to leave it unfinished. --Slowwber 00:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey I'm trying to get the lexicon revival into the news on the main page, i put it on the wikinews page but I can't get it on to the news tablet. Thanks.--Slowwber 21:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

9 Block Maps

I added a 9 block map to Wicks Plaza I also attempted to remove the location stub requirements for Wicks Plaza and The Paviour Building. I think thats done correctly, if not could you please inform me?

Since..

This page has been updated more recently, Where is the Safehouse, exactly? If It's in Havercroft, I'll stop by. (I'm Zed', Got Syringes?) --Dr Cory Bjornson 03:09, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Hey

Since boxy isn't around, could you look into this request? Apparently this guy would like some sysop action getting those images taken down in a prompt manner. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 22:43, 15 April 2008 (BST)

If you read my post here you'll see that I found precedent for people to be vandal banned for harassment involving names. Jedaz says it best here. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 00:32, 16 April 2008 (BST)

You may have a case, it is not a perfect comparison to the current issue but it is close enough. If Marty takes his case to A/VB it will get heard (but boxy's talk page is not a/vb)- Vantar 00:42, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Oh, I know. He wanted to get help from boxy or another sysop. So I figured I'd let you talk to him since you are one and he's ignoring the discussion, thus making marty more desperate for help. I'll get the ball rolling if you would prefer to keep away from this with a ten foot pole. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 00:47, 16 April 2008 (BST)

It is not that I don't want to get involved it is that there is not much more I can tell him other then take it to arbys or A/VB and that has been said a few times now. The biggest problem is in terms of game flavor there would be insults flying between opposing sides so the case that would need to be made is what has been said/drawn crosses the line and I am not sure if it really has in this case or not (still digging though) - Vantar 00:55, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Oh, I figured that the whole thing would have to be investigated and if both sides (or just Marty) want to be left alone it would have to be A/Aed, but there is a point where a line is crossed where we have to say "This isn't a forum and this is a bad faith edit." I think those pictures probably cross that line, don't you? --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 01:00, 16 April 2008 (BST)

I think a few may be crossing it and few aren't but figuring out which ones are will be a bitch of a precedent so I would not expect a quick ruling ( and I wouldn't bet against a A/M case getting started before it's all said and done) - Vantar 01:05, 16 April 2008 (BST)

To begin with, I'd look at the ones that are attributing fictional quotes to Marty, as those would fall under impersonation. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 01:16, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Impersonation would be a stretch (not inconceivable but a stretch) the big problem is you have to prove they are talking about Marty Banks (the user) and not Marty Banks (the fictional character). - Vantar 01:30, 16 April 2008 (BST)

I imagine they are since they are quoting him on their group talk page and posting them for public view here. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 01:36, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Not sure if I should be chiming in here, but a parody image with a word balloon is pretty clearly meant as an insult, rather than any sort of attempt at misdirection or impersonation.

#31 - TastyNougat ^TMG 23:19, 18 April 2008 (BST)

Since the art work is derived from Marty's character art they would be impersonating the fictional character not the user, at least thats how I see it- Vantar 01:49, 16 April 2008 (BST)

True, but since Marty controls the character and the character's speech, wouldn't they in fact be pretending that he said it, thus impersonating him? --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 01:52, 16 April 2008 (BST)

No, character likeness are not protected under the wiki's impersonations rules (and if this case ends up setting that precedent I call dibs on "a non-descript survivor") I know a few Malton chronicles stories that involved characters not controlled by the author, and this is more or less the same type of thing - Vantar 01:59, 16 April 2008 (BST)

I didn't realize that. So just the harassment then. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 02:03, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Yes but you have the same problem, are they harassing the User or the Character. The bar for Character harassment is much higher, I would look at some of the earlier Finis Valorum stuff for a precedent. Of course if at any point Marty just asked them to lay off a little and they ignored it you would have a decent bad faith case there. Them not respecting the legal threats on boxy's talk page is not a good example of this, you need him to ask them nicely and directly to have their ignoring it be considered bad faith - Vantar 02:21, 16 April 2008 (BST)

It's clearly harassing the player, and it looks like he wants it to stop. --Akule ^{Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule ^{School's back in session™}} 02:30, 16 April 2008 (BST)

If they do any more then yes thats almost unquestionably bad faith but since they have have been primarily making fun of the character you are going to have a hard time proofing that harassment of the user was indented, making fun a of a group or a character is allowed (think about all the anti-Big Bash stuff there has been) to prove harassment you need to be able to establish that they were continuing mocking him after they knew he was taking their tauts personally. Also since they are not responsible for tracking Marty every comment his complaints on boxy's and kevan's talk page doesn't count as letting them know he was offended until they commented on it and mocking his legal threats isn't harassment since he may not be in a position to make good on them, so you would need new material to emerge to get the harassment call. (of course Marty may have asked them to lay off earlier already, I haven't looked that far back yet,if he has then harassment would be relatively easy to prove) - Vantar 02:49, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Thanks for the contribution

Yeah, forgot to add the category, thanks. --Sect46 00:36, 16 April 2008 (BST)

No problem, interesting angle to go with for a game guide, it's nice to see something different like that. - Vantar 00:43, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Akule's bid

Akule's promotion bid should have been closed four days ago. And axe appears to have declined his promotion bid. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 04:54, 19 April 2008 (BST)

Karek's Misconduct Complaint

Would you mind re-stating your vote following my addition of Hagnat to the complaint having discovered he was responsible for one of the strikings? --Grarr 19:46, 3 May 2008 (BST)

Dux Demotion

Demote me baby ;) --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 13:04, 6 May 2008 (BST)

Done - Vantar 13:16, 6 May 2008 (BST)

SA promotion

I don't know that he's got enough community support at this time, nor enough contributions lately -- boxy ^{talk • i} 13:14 15 May 2008 (BST)

Agreed - Vantar 16:12, 15 May 2008 (BST)

Oooo sooper sekrit bureaucrat discussion...--x o x o 13:35, 15 May 2008 (BST)

Requesting..

MU_Roster be moved to Malton_Underground/MU_Roster, Just for the hell of it? _■^■ 20:58, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Done, however in the future UDWiki:Administration/Move Requests is a better place for this type of request - Vantar 21:02, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Ah. Thanks, I just remembered you moving my page.. _■^■ 21:41, 22 May 2008 (BST)

Kill Vista

Vista has requested demotion, please review and do the biz -- boxy ^{talk • i} 01:33 23 May 2008 (BST)

misconduct voting

hi. could you vote on my misconduct case ? Vote for, vote against, just vote. I just want this thing to be over. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 02:57, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Sure - Vantar 03:45, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Thank you

For recognising when your time is up. I personally didn't have any issues with you aside from a few contentious rulings (and would have probably voted for you), but I appreciate your integrity in bowing out. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 01:37, 7 June 2008 (BST)

Umm...your welcome. I kinda always thought you had some issue with me (I think all of our past interaction have ended in personal attacks) so your gratitude honestly surprises me here. Thank you - Vantar 02:58, 7 June 2008 (BST)

Unlike some - and despite what many think - I am able to differentiate between someone who disagrees with me but honestly thinks they're doing the right thing and someone with an agenda. --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 06:02, 7 June 2008 (BST)

Being a bureaucrat

If you don't mind me asking, what was it that you didn't like about the role? --Toejam 04:07, 7 June 2008 (BST)

There was a few things but the biggest thing was the "Spirit of the Rules vs. Wording of the Rules" fight that kept breaking out. For the first part of my term I was too busy with categories to really get involved with the wiki politics then the Grim A/VB happened. What the archive doesn't include is the 10 straight hours that me and Grim spent in IRC arguing our opposing view points. The entire case was ugly form the start and it never has really been resolved. When the issue resurfaced I tried to resolve the issue but Grim took my ruling as an attack on him instead of the request for compromise I meant it to be. In later misconduct cases things not much would change and around the same time there was an influx of promotion bids so, to me at least, it looked like certain users were trying to establish a controlling majority over misconduct rulings. That mixed with rather baseless accusations of being part of an "old boys club" made me lose all desire to remain a bureaucrat.- Vantar 08:46, 7 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks for the (well-considered) answer. There certainly is a lot of pointless conflict around this wiki. It's alright when it's just polite intellectual dissension (in fact that sort of conflict is probably healthy) but when it gets into people speaking to each other to antagonise them, that's horrible. Sometimes I think it would be nice if each time there was a disagreement, like exact wording vs spirit of rules, the wiki sub-divided into two and people went to whichever group they wanted. It'd be like that saying that people get the government they deserve, and if someone had ridiculous views they couldn't impose them on others. By the way, I'm a bit late but good work on the image categorisation project. --Toejam 02:06, 12 June 2008 (BST)

Thanks but the my contributions to image categorization were minimal at best. Boxy championed the idea and Nubis deserves a lot of the credit, he has categorized well beyond what I have done.- Vantar 02:19, 12 June 2008 (BST)

Thank you. Rosslessness and I worked very hard on that. I hope in the future that a sysop team eventually gets created that is more wiki oriented than policy directed. It's always a shame to see people that actually used to enjoy doing work and contributing leave. --– Nubis ^NWO 03:51, 12 June 2008 (BST)

Hey now, I'm still here. Does all my location blocking/fixing count for much? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 03:56, 12 June 2008 (BST)

Template on user page

Hey, could you replace the wiki coma template on my user page to the one that Hagnat just made? {{Gone}}

My page is protected, and I'd rather keep it that way. This should be the only change I make. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 14:07, 13 June 2008 (BST)

Sure no problem , sorry this took me so long to get to this something seems to have gone afoul with in my notification system - Vantar 12:56, 18 June 2008 (BST)

Nah, it's cool. I only logged in yesterday. Thanks. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 09:55, 22 June 2008 (BST)

Heya

You still around?-- Vista T 00:06, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Not really, I lurk on occasion but mostly to borrow formatting for other wikis, all my characters have idled out in game, and I have lost interest in wiki politics and mass categorization so without a project I feel like working on I have more or less drifted away. - Vantar 05:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I thought so... to bad, I would've gone to your safe house again.-- Vista T 05:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually last I heard the safe house was still up but that was a month ago- Vantar 07:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

It was up, then I got ransacked, then I died. _■^■ 04:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Ouch sorry about that then - Vantar 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Last Merged Page

Vantar said:

These may have been the last locations page that needed to have location blocks made - Vantar 14:58, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Special:DoubleRedirects would like a word. -- Rooster Dragon 15:04, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Yes, but as far as I know those are all just merged page, the location blocks are created, they just need to be broken down into individual pages, for some of the streets in Reganbank I had to actually fill out the location block template. - Vantar 15:09, 11 June 2010 (BST)

I stand corrected. Then again I could be an ass and mention Pullin Square in all it's locationblock lacking glory. --

Rooster Dragon

15:18, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Well if you are going for ass points just mention the fact that 99% of Monroeville and Borehamwood are unblocked still :) - Vantar 15:27, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Thanks for the help!

	Demerger
	This user helped in the great demerging of location pages.

Thanks for your work demerging location pages. While the job was tedious, your assistance was invaluable in completing the task. As thanks for helping to improve this wiki, have template. ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 01:20, 13 June 2010 (BST)

No problem, glad to help out, just as long as we don't change the preferred location style back to merged again - Vantar 01:30, 13 June 2010 (BST)

Safehouse

Does User:Murdoc have permission to do this?--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 17:29, 27 June 2010 (BST)

Nope, but I'm pretty sure its an in game thing spilling into the wiki, If he does it again I'll take him to A/VB - Vantar 18:35, 27 June 2010 (BST)

The Living

Would you be willing to relinquish ownership of this page? http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/The_living I have some big things in mind. *Clint Clintstone* ^Talk4:46, 19 Mar. 11 (EST)