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Question
u recently blocked my rommate with the username nexus and i assure u nexus is not a alt of me we just share a pc can u please unban him he would never vandalise wiki on purpose can u send me somthin of wut ur planning to do thanks--Zombieman 11 22:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- It's probably the fact you do everything so similar. Like the fact you don't capitalize I's , or use any punctuation, or the fact you both seem to miss the "g" of words like "thinking" or "something". Oh, and editing as User:Survivor 2.0 isn't helping things at all. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:29, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- Which isn't against the rules (to my knowledge) since the alt in question is neither committing vandalism, voting illegally, nor evading a ban as Zombieman has only been warned, not actually banned. Unless I am missing something. Which is like totally possible!-MHSstaff 23:06, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not judging the usefulness of this, merely questioning the claim that these (now 3) accounts are between two roommates. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:13, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- You just threw up a AVB case. What vandalism has Survivor 2 actually committed? How is this different from the Lois/Lois's alt case? This is drifting toward borderline checkuser abuse...-MHSstaff 23:16, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- It's using a second sock to try to establish that the first sock (which was used improperly) was a real person, which is just as bad. 23:19, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
October 2010
Guide
That was actually me circa age 12, and tbh it's more unfunny puerile Uncyclo refs than anything else. I'll probably put delete tags on it though--Mtumbe Ngoube 03:26, 21 October 2010 (BST)
sucks you're stepping down
you have been a voice of reason for longer than i care to remember. good luck with whatever you are doing. ciao buddy.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 18:31, 4 October 2010 (BST)
If you would just confirm your demotion request, we'll kick of a fresh crat election and get you demoted to sop. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:36, 3 October 2010 (BST)
Wow... you are one of the few sane voices here and the place will not be the same without you.... congrats on your Escape! --Honestmistake 00:54, 5 October 2010 (BST)
He'll be back! You all know it. :D -- LEMON #1 01:53, 5 October 2010 (BST)
- Yeah don't worry, boxy's my alt, just a bit busy, that's all. You're also my alt as well, DDR, you just don't know it yet. -- AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:02, 5 October 2010 (BST)
- Ffffff. I've been telling people that i've been a long time victim of nightly inception. Now I have the proof! -- LEMON #1 04:35, 5 October 2010 (BST)
*Salutes Boxy* --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:12, 5 October 2010 (BST)
September 2010
I came up with an Idea, but need your input
I thought it would be cool if we had a wiki User of the Month Competition. Now, this would probably have to be run by Sysops, so, I'm Asking for your input here. And dont worry, I've asked the other Sysops too.
Cheers,
-Dezonus- (talk) 14:55, 2 October 2010 (BST)
chile
Hey man, do you remember a year and a half ago you showed me a link on IRC about that news report of the small rainfall in chile which knocked out power for 60,000 or so people? I've been googling it but I can't find it : ( do you have it hidden away somewhere, or remember what site it was from? Super thanks if you can help me out :D -- LEMON #1 15:19, 19 September 2010 (BST)
- This probably isn't the link I had at the time, but I just googled up the story, "Tiny Drizzle Wreaks Havoc In Desert City", about Iquique being damaged by a rainfall of 0.2mm (their yearly average is 0.6mm) :D -- boxy talk • teh rulz 14:39 20 September 2010 (BST)
- My numbers were a bit out, but that's the one! My god, it's one of the funniest things I've ever read. Thanks heaps. -- LEMON #1 14:54, 20 September 2010 (BST)
Stuff I really should archive
August 2010
Thoughts?
Permaban vote for Cornholioo again. You mind weighing in? -- Cheese 09:29, 25 August 2010 (BST)
Request for an IP check
On This guy. --☭ Soviet Russia ☭ is currently: having his arm torn off by a zombie. 10:16, 24 August 2010 (BST)
- Done, and it's a different IP, atm -- boxy talk • teh rulz 11:04 24 August 2010 (BST)
- Would you be able to weigh up on the decision to ban it based on the evidence and suspicions labelled just above ===Conholioo (3)==='s case? Trying to decide on a joint decision atm. -- 11:44, 24 August 2010 (BST)
- User:Arminius - Him too, please --☭ Soviet Russia ☭ is currently: having his arm torn off by a zombie. 20:51, 24 August 2010 (BST)
- Check VB.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 20:53, 24 August 2010 (BST)
- Well, it does seem like Corny, but we might never know for sure due to the open proxy this guy was using. But we're all positive it's Corny. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:55, 24 August 2010 (BST)
First mall piñata: Calvert or Treweeke?
Hello there, it's been a couple of years since I last visited the wiki. I have something to ask that only you and perhaps Yonnua can answer.
Some members of LUE has been active again under the LUEshi's Rangers group, and today they took down Calvert Mall. Not only that, but they turned the mall complex into a piñata. However I got into a disagreement with a member of the group who has been claiming Calvert was the first mall to be turned to a piñata.
In the piñata talk page, I read that Treweeke was the first mall to be put to a piñata. But in the Calvert Mall page, someone from LUEshi's Rangers is claiming Calvert was the first. Could you please weigh in with your opinion on what happened? Thanks. --Aeon17x 15:42, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- I don't know if Treweeke was the first mall to be Pinataed, but it definitely was for a short time when I posted on that talk page. Dead Animal patrols the Pescodcide/Dulston area, and often camps out in Treweeke. Over the last year or so, it's been ruined for most of the time, often with only a token feral presence inside, and with infrequent attempts from survivors to retake it. At the time, survivors were retaking corners, repairing and 'cading them, but not willing/able to take the whole mall. So there were often EHB, yet ruined sections of the mall, which made it ripe pickings for death cultists to pinata with minimal effort, thanks to the "help" of the half-hearted survivor efforts. I don't know who it was that actually did the deed, but I did see the results, with 3 corners at EHB and one at heavily, and all ruined, meaning that survivors had to break down the 'cades to get in. It lasted only an hour or so. As I said, I don't know if it was the first mall pinata, but it's the only one I've heard of until now -- boxy talk • teh rulz 18:29 21 August 2010 (BST)
- Basically, I'd say that while it's not clear Treweeke was the first piñatad mall, it's safe to say that Calvert was not the first, given that there's a record of at least one other mall being piñatad before it. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a few other malls were turned into piñatas at some point in the past but no record was ever made of it. After all, the game has been going on for awhile, and piñataing a building isn't exactly a novel concept any longer. —Aichon— 21:54, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- Don't remember which mall, but I had a moment a year back. A mall, pinated except for one corner, which was also ruined. I enter, only to find it empty. I repair everything, and since the other corner were all EHB, I basically took an entire Mall with minimum effort. Fun times. --Thadeous Oakley 22:03, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- Didn't they Pinata a mall for Sanhaim 3? I remember Dowdney Mall was fine one day and then ruined the next but I don't remember if they pinataed to do it or if they just broke down the cades and rushed in. Also I would recommend you ask someone in the RRF as I know the Gore Corps came close a number of times to doing that stuff -- 22:36, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- LUEshi's Rangers may stand corrected about the first mall Pinata to be achieved. I've always understood this game and it's community to operate under the standard of "pics or it didn't happen". From what everybody seems to be saying here, it can be accepted that malls have been pinata'd before, but it appears that LUEshi's Rangers may be the first survivor group to attack a populated mall and achieve a pinata. Does anyone have anything to say regarding that?--Hiro Kazama 04:38, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Yes: that you're wrong. Maybe you should stop thinking it in the terms of "how can we technically get away with this bragging right" and start thinking in terms of "what has actually happened in the game". Many witnesses above, all of which I would fully trust (since they aren't gaining anything out of what they are saying or claiming) are testifying that there have been piniata'd malls before. -- 04:41, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- MOB and RDD hit a pinata in Stickling during the MOB's last roll through Shearbank too. I'd assumed at the time it was something that had inevitably been done a million times before, and I still believe that. Anyway, the Knights doing the pinata in Krinks ages ago would have the same, if not more, impact. 04:52, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- I think you might be able to safely claim that you are the first PKing group of August 2010 to document on the wiki the act of piñataing a mall (and I assume you documented it, though I haven't checked). Beyond that, not so much. As for "pics or it didn't happen", not really. That only matters when it's "srs bizns" like competitions or when something factual is being contested. Otherwise, we generally take people at their word on mainspace pages, so long as it doesn't contradict existing facts, especially for something as mundane as piñataing a mall. And you can claim whatever the hell you want on your group pages, since pretty much anything goes there. —Aichon— 06:45, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Unless the MOB capped it then I don't think any of us did. Not that it matters. 06:57, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Well, MOB isn't going to piñata anything at all, since that would involve collaboration with breathers, which is anti-barhah. I could see Gore Corps or a death cultist group doing it, however, or even just a duo of PKers getting bored around a perpetually near-empty mall such as Treweeke. —Aichon— 07:40, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- As expected they've documented the piñata of Calvert in their group page. The Calvert article on the other hand is starting to look like an extension of their group page and is very POV with all the gloating and challenging other players to 'prove' it isn't the first mall piñata, etc. --Aeon17x 13:13, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Yup, you are right. POV news entry moved to the talk page, where it belongs.--Thadeous Oakley 13:47, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- I posted one line on the Calvert Mall page, asking for people to clarify the situation. If that's going to tread on your delicate sensibilities, then you all need to relax. You guys wonder why the community is dying? None of you seem willing to have any fun. I came here without attitude, asking if anyone could clarify the whole situation, and you've all become posturing, angry children, mad at the fact that we were proud of something we accomplished. So, we weren't the first. That's fine. Up til now, we've never heard of it being done. If nothing else, this is only a further achievement of what we set out to do. Enjoy the game, gentlemen. We'll see you.--Hiro Kazama 16:06, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Funny how you try to pretend that we're all MAD or something, just because you didn't like the answer you got on your question.--Thadeous Oakley 16:27, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Nah, I think you're all mad because of the way we're being told to quit trying to find ways to "technically brag" about what we did, and the insulting demeanor in which everybody is "discussing" the situation. Like I said... We were pretty sure we were the first group to achieve what we did. Everybody speaking on the subject seems to be more than happy to try and squeeze us under a boot heel for what amounts to a simple mistake that we were all more than willing to see rectified. We didn't, however, ask for everybody who spoke on the subject to be hateful, demeaning, and adversarial. That's on you guys, and speaks more of your characters than anything we could have done.--Hiro Kazama 18:48, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Huh? 18:52, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- I don't know why they don't say, "first documented pinata" --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:54, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Because Treweeke was apparently documented with an accounting of it happening. Not as good a form of documentation, but documentation, nonetheless. —Aichon— 19:16, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- You must be confused. At no point did I get upset with you or try to put you down in any way (if I had, you'd have known), though I am entertained by the low opinion you apparently have of me, since you think that a run-of-the-mill conversation like this would try my patience. Please review my comments to see that this is the case. You may disagree or infer some other intent from my comments, but I assure you, none was implied. That said, I do think that you now are sounding like a sore loser, ever since you were told that you weren't the first. Previously I did not think so, but your recent comments, both here and elsewhere, have convinced me otherwise. —Aichon— 19:16, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- I do hope oneday you are able to look back on this conversation and see who is obviously upset. -- 23:05, 22 August 2010 (BST)
The danger report posted on 11 July for Stickling Mall reads "NW corner still up, rest of the mall is ransacked. Seven zeds inside, but the barricades are still up." This seems to indicate a pinata in progress. Chief Seagull squawkFree running! 19:11, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- @Aichon, I can actually say for your part in this, I'm not actually directing any of my ire towards you. You've managed not to be condescending, for the most part. Overall, though, my defensive attitude on this wiki mainly stems from the reception I received on nominating the Rangers for best new group in the Malton Murder Awards. Every word I've had to say on the entire wiki seems to be met with spite, which has led me to view the community as xenophobic at best. As to the debate we seemed to be having, I've accepted that we weren't the first to accomplish a mall pinata. It's disappointing, but fine. We'll keep playing. What I continue to argue against here is the fact that you have a group of people here that are actively enjoying the game and attempting to be part of the community, yet the "old guard" seems to be unwilling to accept us because of reasons I'm not totally clear on. Did we just totally piss somebody off by merely THINKING we were the first to accomplish something, or is it the fact that we're proud of what we accomplished?--Hiro Kazama 21:25, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Honestly, i think far fewer people are annoyed with you than you think.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:30, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- I really think you're over-reacting. I've not seen any real ire towards you guys (though you didn't do yourselves any favours vandalising the Loo Rangers page, but that's apparently put in the wind now), and the only reason any argument continues here is pretty much because you're stoking it. Trust me, there are plenty of genuinely combatative moments here. 21:35, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Cornholioo? Iscariot was far worse, when a group of sysops conspired to perma him before anyone noticed.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:37, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Yeah but Iz never got hirarious templates. 21:39, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Then I'll consider the entire matter closed. Believe me, all we want to do is participate and piss off survivors. I don't suppose anything needs to be, or should be, said on the subject. For my part, I'll apologize for coming off as defensively as I have.--Hiro Kazama 21:44, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- While you're here, allow me to direct you to this.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:45, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Man, if I'm part of the "old guard", then anyone can get into this club. ;) In all seriousness though, I get what you mean (there's definitely some hostility towards newbies), but, in my book, new PKers are always welcome, including LUE folks (hell, I even have an old GameFAQs account somewhere that has access to LUE, though I never use it since I wasn't big on the place). I think people generally just don't like the bombastic types, but, as you point out, your goal is to piss of survivors, and being loud and proud about your actions is part of a schtick that works. I'd keep at it, in all honesty, despite any unfriendliness you might face. You'll run into some hostile reactions, for sure, but I'd imagine it's a fun way to play the game, and every good story needs a villain, which I'm sure people will love to paint you as. So long as you keep your noses clean and don't bring the drama to the wiki, I doubt any of us will really mind in the least. —Aichon— 23:00, 22 August 2010 (BST)
- Do you really think that the entire community of older players hate you cause you nominated your group for Best Group? I barely even noticed, and all I did was say you were wrong with your claim after you demanded pictures of proof of something that had seemingly been done before but no one cared about it enough to document. I was just trying to get you guys to understand, and now you do, I have little care for this topic. -- 23:10, 22 August 2010 (BST)
fuck tha gr33ns
if you didn't vote for sex party I'll be very disappointed! -- 12:03, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- You people and your "polotics". I should send the Queen out to slap you all. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:05, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- make her slap a certified sex party member and film his reaction, then i'll approve -- 13:08, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- Are you a psychic? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:14 21 August 2010 (BST)
- I call it sexvoyance! -- 14:00, 21 August 2010 (BST)
Sysop bid
So, you guys didn't mention your reasons on the bid. I figure lack of activity is probably the biggest (heck, look at how long it's taken me to ask this), but am curious as to whether there is anything else I should work on if I'm looking to run again at some point? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:17, 17 August 2010 (BST)
- Oh wait, no, you did discuss it (on this very talk page!), I just didn't read low down enough. Fair enough. Question still stands. :) ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 03:20, 17 August 2010 (BST)
- Yeah, mostly the activity thing. Promises of future increased activity doesn't help much. Nominating a long banned member, after having a run in on A/VB yourself, didn't really do much to make it look like you were going into this for the right reasons either. Just keep doing what you're doing, and if you're still keen, put up another bid after a while. As I said elsewhere, I have no real problem promoting you if you can demonstrate the increased involvement -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:22 19 August 2010 (BST)
- Cheers mate, and fair enough. That reminds me – am I due for de-escalation yet? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:07, 20 August 2010 (BST)
- Without trying to sounds as intrusive and as blunt as it seems- as are a budding sysop you'd probably find it beneficial seeing about that yourself, since most of the cockups from the sysop team revolve around lack of understanding of the A/VD and de-escalations system -- 11:12, 20 August 2010 (BST)
- But I try to avoid VD as much as possible! D: ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:25, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- Lol fair. -- 07:58, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- You are, by about 20 contributions.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:42, 20 August 2010 (BST)
- Sounds great. I'll have one of those, then, if I may? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:27, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- Post in on DE. Pretty sure you have to now, because of a policy a while back.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:38, 21 August 2010 (BST)
- Augh. Fine. Five bucks says the extra red tape was Iscariot's doing. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 12:37, 26 August 2010 (BST)
- Nope. He voted against it.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 12:40, 26 August 2010 (BST)
- I'm afraid you have me to blame for the red tape this time. *blushes* Although it was inspired by an Iscariot cluster fuck.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 13:00, 26 August 2010 (BST)
- Meh. It works well. A more transparent system is a better one.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 13:28, 26 August 2010 (BST)
- That was what I meant, yeah, although now you mention it… (Also, thanks Yonnua.) ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 18:50, 26 August 2010 (BST)
Yo
Yo
I fucking lulzed. You blind wanker. 03:26, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- Well,... he must be blind.... I've got this big ol' text at the top of the page that says "PUT ALL NEW POSTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE".... And here comes none other than boxy, and posting in the middle of my talk page no less... Comparatively,... Imthatguy did something similar... I even had a user post on my front page... For real though,... just read the instructions, and comply. That's all I ask,... nothing major. Don't come along almost a year after a subject ends, and post, half way up my talk page. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:34, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- Even if it's clearly a continuation of the old topic? You'd have loved SA then. 03:39, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- But it wasn't. The section he posted in was about templating sections of a few particular pages. Instead, he commented on my recent mass editing of my group subpages, where I racked up over two hundred edits (one hundred last night, and one hundred today), and was pumping it out like rapid fire... Looking at them hurt his eyes. To that I say,... go eat a carrot, and STFU... crybaby. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:44, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- Yes it's clearly me who's laughing who's QQing and not the dude tl;dring the wiki explaining something trivial... 03:46, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- You want to talk about trivial,... so's commenting on someone editing their group subpages... one has to ask "Who Cares?" Like I said, if it hurts your eyes, eat a carrot. If you don't like that I removed his edit, revert the son of a bitch. If you thought my comment was funny,... well so's your mother. Regardless, everything surrounding the matter is pointless. And yet, here we all are.... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:54, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- QED. 03:56, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- Which is an abbreviation for what exactly? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:59, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- quod erat demonstrandium. i may have spelled that wrong. -- 04:09, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- Quit Editing, Doodles? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 07:46 12 August 2010 (BST)
- Yay! I was going to create a new header for it, but meh, it just didn't seem important enough for that. And it was indeed the same subject. If you don't want them edited, archive your talk page (I always try to keep mine short ) -- boxy talk • teh rulz 07:46 12 August 2010 (BST)
- Um,.... no? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 22:58, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- I understand jokes! -- 23:32, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- And putting commas before full stops is RIGHT -- 23:32, 12 August 2010 (BST)
- And bolding links relentlessly DOESN'T ANNOY DDR -- 13:38, 13 August 2010 (BST)
Sysop input requested
There's a sysop-only vote taking place, and we haven't heard from you yet. Check here. —Aichon— 20:24, 9 August 2010 (BST)
Clay pigeon shooting, dressed as a pigeon.
I'm away for 4 days, at a stag do. Basically unless anything mad happens, mis has the overwhelming support of the community and I have no concerns about reapproving him. ta. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:10, 5 August 2010 (BST)
- Dressing up as a discus like object? Pics! :p No problem, have fun -- boxy talk • teh rulz 23:13 5 August 2010 (BST)
A/VB Discussion
I was kinda surprised you moved the useless discussion started by me when I clicked the Edit tab as I was about to move it myself. But since you got to it, I won't complain if you put me up for A/VB for the Asian discussion...I'll take whatever warning you SysOps give me. I won't complain about it since I knew the rules of discussion... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:01, 5 August 2010 (BST)
- I hereby sentence you to a dacking, and to be laughed at mercilessly for a period of time not exceeding 10 minutes -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:10 5 August 2010 (BST)
- Uh...Not quite what I was expecting...I'm guessing you're gonna let me pass this time around, huh, Boxy? >< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:17, 5 August 2010 (BST)
- Just move it to the talk page earlier, next time... or better still, put your reply there in the first place. It would only be a soft warning (at worst), at this stage, in any case -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:22 5 August 2010 (BST)
- Yep. Axe, you're being too hard on yourself, we move stuff over to talk lots but it's only for repeat offenders who ignore soft warnings, or users who really go ape on abusing that leniency who actually get escalated. -- 16:20, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Racism
Racism is a word invented by the divide and conquer pedozionists, which is ment to kill any way of debate; paralyze every way of thinking. Like the word 'heretic' in the Dark ages. History repeats itself when the first time no one was listening; patterns.
That said, there is no thing like 'roleplay' here. In real life I'm exactly the same. Germanic Hailgreet, CORNH卐LIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 10:50, 5 August 2010
- Admin pages are not the place to "debate" such issues, any more than it's a place to debate global warming or alien abductions -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:57 5 August 2010 (BST)
- Did I post anything wrong on the VB page? --CORNH卐LIOO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGHT IS FOR 14/88!!! 11:26, 5 August 2010
- Listen up, fucknut. I don't want to debate race politics with you. And it has no relevance on the A/VB page, so keep it off there -- boxy talk • teh rulz 11:53 5 August 2010 (BST)
- Corn posts comment about how no one listens. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:58, 5 August 2010 (BST)
Thad bid
UDWiki:Administration/Promotions#Thadeous_Oakley
Hmmm. Basically, 12 hours or so to go, and I'm kind of wandering to yes. The central questions for me are, do I think he's overcome the umbrella spat, and can a former zerger truly reform. Convince me one way or the other box. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:11, 3 August 2010 (BST)
- While the Umbrella conflict seems to have finally died a natural death, the alt abuse thing is something that I don't think I can get past. Making a mistake is one thing, but it seems to have been a deliberate tactic, that even extended to sockpuppeting at least one A/BP vote here on the wiki. If we had different classes of sysops, so that he could be kept away from A/VB and A/M type decisions, it would be less of an issue -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:20 3 August 2010 (BST)
- There we go then. We both have concerns. I'll leave the judgement up to you, as i sorted out grim and rev. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:11, 3 August 2010 (BST)
I was planning on placing a notice similar like on Ross's page but it seems you're already doing business. Too be honest, if I get rejected I would really appreciate some criticism on my current contributions and a chance to work them out. I agree that mistakes were made some years ago and need to be taken into account here but if the decision is based solely on those mistakes, then it pretty much boils down to not ever trying A/PM again for me, and even Jerrel received more hope than that. I can (and did, in my opinion) reform and improve but building a time-machine to change the past and take those concerns you have away is sadly beyond my capabilities. --Thadeous Oakley 23:32, 3 August 2010 (BST)
I know it's not really my place to get involved, but if you all don't mind my opinion, and even if you do,... at a quick glance, it would seem as if the vote is fairly well split. There are two ops with concerns.... could we simply leave it with "Run again in a month"? I know posting for promotions several times has been deemed vandalism,... and I'd hate to see him try again on his own in a month, just to get slapped on the wrist. But really,... I think Thad is okay,... but needs to provide more substatial proof of that. A months time should work out the kinks.... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:41, 3 August 2010 (BST)
- He's not going to get VBed for another promotion bid in the future (after a reasonable amount of time) -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:50 4 August 2010 (BST)
- You should really move this back to my bid, because you're now basically playing for crat, and that's why there is community discussion. I appreciate the support, I really do, but now I'm already regretting putting that bit above up. It was something meant for Boxy and Ross only, I don't want other people's opinion at this point, otherwise I'm changing Boxy's talk into a part of A/PM discussion. --Thadeous Oakley 23:52, 3 August 2010 (BST)
- Frankly, it's nobody's place to get involved, except for Boxy and Ross. They should decide, and are perfectly qualified to do so without cajoling.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:46, 3 August 2010 (BST)
- That said, they're also perfectly capable of deciding whether to listen or not... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:54, 3 August 2010 (BST)
- No. Your opinion isn't wanted so shut up and let the crats talk without flies buzzing in their ears. -- 00:20, 4 August 2010 (BST)
Seriously. Much like Peter Mcnicol in Ghostbusters 2, you are like the buzzing of flies to me. Thad, in the next few days, we're going to have a major update. I'd advise you to take it on yourself to help create, edit and fact check how the changes effect the game and the wiki. A big project is the perfect way to show your sop materials.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:47, 4 August 2010 (BST)
July 2010
Your name has come up...
...in relation to a Misconduct case. I apologize for not having mentioned it earlier, but it completely slipped my mind to notify the affected parties at the time that I posted the case. —Aichon— 04:44, 29 July 2010 (BST)
One Red Hawk
Re-evaluation is ending in two days, I'm assuming that unless there's a sudden surge of nays, you'll have no problem with a successful reappointment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:52, 22 July 2010 (BST)
Sure -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:33 23 July 2010 (BST)
- One of you guys should probably post this on his RE bid then. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:46, 26 July 2010 (BST)
- A-HA! Diligence! I KNEW you were Crat material when I voted!! ;D -- 11:48, 26 July 2010 (BST)
- Boxy and Ross still beat me and SA though ... :P Linkthewindow Talk 11:52, 26 July 2010 (BST)
- Woops, looked at it the other day, and thought, "no, not quite 2 weeks yet". D'oh :D -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:00 26 July 2010 (BST)
- Well, it's an easy mistake to make. The whole RE is 1, PM is 2 thing always throws me for a loop.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:02, 26 July 2010 (BST)
The Joy of promotions
Anyway, to summarise. Grim. Absolutely not. Even if I was too consider it, the fact he's not made a single edit in the last 9 days suggests that the bid is nothing other than a revenant dare.
As for Rev? Well. I still have no idea if he's being serious. Yes, he's massively active in the game, and on several sites, and I feel he would be an asset in some ways. But im not convinced he has the wiki knowledge. I think his response to GFJ in his own promotion bid sums up my position. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:34, 19 July 2010 (BST)
- I agree, I've no real problem with Rev overall, but would like to see the promised increase in wiki presense before promotion. Being a sysop is not required in order to change the system we've got -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:49 20 July 2010 (BST)
- you want to pass judgement, or shall I? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:39, 20 July 2010 (BST)
Community discussion closed on two candidates.-- Adward 18:05, 19 July 2010 (BST)
Bard
Ooooooh, alright. Thanks for helping me out with that Boxy. I appreciate it. Hope you're having a good weekend. --TheBardofAwesome 18:20, 18 July 2010 (BST)
So, wait
I'm not allowed to defend myself on my own A/VB case now? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 23:52, 5 July 2010 (BST)
Regarding that case, boxy, you know as well as any that a soft warning is the standard first step and that without trying to get the person to stop first it's not considered vandalism. Making that an escalation offense is just plain poor form. --Karekmaps?! 17:42, 11 July 2010 (BST)
- hardly. -- 18:39, 11 July 2010 (BST)
- Soft warnings for talk page spam? Really? The first time I remember this sort of thing coming up, is Codename V, and while he'd been told not to be annoying with his promotional stuff it similar (non talk page) situations, he was warned as soon as he was brought to the VB page -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:27 12 July 2010 (BST)
- Codename V was not the same thing. This is closer to "hey, vote on my suggestion/policy plox" which has always been given the curtosy of a hey knock it off before escalation unless something has changed drastically. --Karekmaps?! 15:45, 20 July 2010 (BST)
- No, this is more like getting everyone who voted on the suggestion but against what you wanted them to vote for, and spam an obnoxious pre-written template on their page threatening them with in-game PKing (even in light-heartedness, the ethics of it is questionable, especially in the roleplaying manner they were trying to convey) if they don't change their vote. There, any other flawless examples to liken this too? --
15:51, 20 July 2010 (BST)
- Actually it's more like you're a shitty admin that began simply mr chip on your shoulder long ago and should have left when all your comments and rulings became about your ego. The fact that you can't see a difference between this and semi automated group spam just shows this in spades. This is not the type of thing the rule was made for, and shitting on metafun on the wiki is not the type of thing sysops exist for. --Karekmaps?! 16:03, 20 July 2010 (BST)
- Better practice this rant for all the sysops that agreed then, not just mr chip. I fucking love the metafun and that's what I actually am fighting for, you fucking imbecile, I love the roleplaying fun and I'd like everyone to have a piece of it, but when a pissy title like mayor of malton suddenly becomes such a fucking dramafest because people like Jorm and Rev have to go over the top simply to "win", then that ruines the metafun. Tell the people who voted for their mate and were subsequently spammed and threatened by Revenant this, and ask them if they enjoyed the metafun after that. -- 16:12, 20 July 2010 (BST)
- yup, keep on proving that point DDR, maybe some day you'll be taken seriously if you keep justifying it as drama when you blatantly just don't agree with who's doing it. --Karekmaps?! 16:26, 20 July 2010 (BST)
- Again, really, I don't understand, please provide any sort of evidence that I don't like Revenant? I thought you were better than conspiracy theories Karke, sure you didn't give your account to SA after his perma? Sheesh. -- 16:29, 20 July 2010 (BST)
Bump
Much excitement. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:00, 5 July 2010 (BST)
- Meh -- boxy talk • teh rulz 22:59 5 July 2010 (BST)
June 2010
DanceDanceRepromotion
Ends tomorrow. or tonight. or something. thoughts? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:19, 14 June 2010 (BST)
- Can we permban him? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:52 14 June 2010 (BST)
- Sure --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:23, 14 June 2010 (BST)
Thank you and sorry
Thanks for unbanning me! I promise to destroy all of wiki...I mean not to destroy all of wiki (ban put back in place).lol Now in all seriousness, thank you. Also sorry, for putting you guys in work for something a small as me. I'll try to product only helpful content.--Lonercs 15:24, 9 June 2010 (BST) PS. I have no clue where to place this
- It's not me that you should be apologising too -- boxy talk • teh rulz 17:51 9 June 2010 (BST)
what the fuck is going on in this wiki
everything's gone to shit (or has it?) Cyberbob Talk 05:16, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- Dunno why you came to boxy about this, since he's the only one doing half-assed moderating at this point. -- 05:28, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- i dunno just clickin around and clicked his name, what does it matter Cyberbob Talk 05:32, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- Just taking shit too seriously, same old. -- 05:34, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- "BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW! I'M DDR AND I'M ACTING LIKE A COMPLETE FAGGOT AND EVERYONE HATES ME! I NEED GORRIBUS TO LICK MY TAINT AND MAKE ME FEEL BETTER!" That's what you sound like. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 05:38, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- huh? follow people around and QQ in all caps , butthurt much?-- 05:43, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- One has to have a reason to be butthurt. Ever realize that people just don't like you? You've never done anything to make me upset. You just happen to be a complete faggot that needs to be purged. Do not flatter yourself. You've never done anything worthy of upsetting me. Also, choke on a dick and die. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 05:58, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- Prove me wrong and leave this place and stop harassing me? ;_; -- 06:05, 8 June 2010 (BST)
- Probably just that time of the month -- boxy talk • teh rulz 08:11 8 June 2010 (BST)
Today
Hai, i've seen all the crap you're dealing with today and thought i'd leave this picture of an incredibly cute cat here for your benefit link ♥ Moonie Talk | Kyle For Mayor 12:43, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- Here, let me return your serve ;) -- boxy talk • teh rulz 04:08 9 June 2010 (BST)
VB
Sorry, dude. You understand, though.--Jorm 09:35, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- Actually, he could say what he wanted thenceforth. I just wanted it memorable, so that it's very visible when he's looking for 'crat promotion.--Jorm 09:39, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- No he can't, he's not a sysop, and he's not an involved party. And even as a sysop, you can't expect to say whatever you like on the main page. Now please keep further biffo to the talk page. You can still link to it in the future for whatever you want -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:43 7 June 2010 (BST)
- Respect (to you); we're done. I'm satisfied.--Jorm 09:47, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- I think he's talking about Yonnua. Because there's nothing I did in this little fagfest that was wrong. -- 11:26, 7 June 2010 (BST)
You better get the case ready now Box. Because it is absolutely preposterous that you can one little shit to force what miscellaneous comments HE wants onto HIS OWN A/VB case against the sysop's will by simply just going into a merciless editing war, and delete rulings and warn notices, and not be paid for it. It's a joke, and "just do what's not right to subdue all drama ASAP" been your attitude towards this for the last month or so. Get back in the right mindset you had when you did the job properly and stop bowing down to some fucking ignoramus. You get your cases ready and I'll get mine. Because given the proper evidence and precedents there is a much bigger chance Jorm will end up the loser out of this, not me. -- 11:26, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- He's an involved party, and the comments were on topic, and give context to why he was so peeved. You knowingly added your 2c worth, despite not being an involved party, swearing and insulting in the process in a way you knew was inappropriate on the main VB page. Jorm simply answered, and then made it clear that he was happy for your insults to remain. As an involved party, he has that right, within reason, so as long as further douchebaggery goes on the talk page, we should allow it. If you don't like it, may I point you to A/A for resolution -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:15 7 June 2010 (BST)
- Are you actually going to argue that a rant about why RPing is dead in the game is in any way relevant to that matter? Because I won't buy it. And no, I don't give a fuck whether Jorm "allows" it to be on the main page with the added bonus of his 2c, because he doesn't have control over that. He only has the "privilege" of being an "involved party" because he committed fucking VANDALISM, remember that. And being the involved party carries with it no such concessions. Don't be an idiot.
- I'll see how far this has to go before I consider A/A but I'd assume you'd see sense in this well beforehand. -- 12:19, 7 June 2010 (BST)
Revert war isn't solving anything, by lookin at RC... --Thadeous Oakley 12:11, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- No, it isn't, so Boxy might as well submit a case to A/VB (and myself submit one on Jorm) and let the ops decide there in a big shitstorm of drama, or just stop reverting an edit which by Boxy's own admission is fine because "DDR isn't even an involved party". I even said that it would be moved to talk in the comment. --
12:19, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- Well good luck, I would give my opinion, but I'm off to Uni, so you two have fun. --Thadeous Oakley 12:30, 7 June 2010 (BST)
- Then why didn't you do us all a favour and put it on the talk page in the first place, seeing you knew where it was supposed to go? Jorm choose to answer it before it was moved, so we can't move some of his comments and leave others that were also responding to the tone you (as a non-sysop, and uninvolved party) had already set. Your comment gives his response context, and needs to be kept -- boxy talk • teh rulz 12:35 7 June 2010 (BST)
- Dude, have you been here for years, or minutes? We don't need to keep an involved party's comments on the main page for shit. Never had to. There are precedents up the wahzoo, almost monthly, that prove this. I'll get some in our case, but can do so now if it'll make you change your mind on this clusterfuck. Why did I add myself to the main page when I knew it should have been on the talk page? I don't know, but since I'm not a long term abuser of the main/talk rule I often like to think I have the privilege of being able to add stuff to the main and have it moved to talk on a case by case basis without facing an A/VB case, as the comments are made. I could be wrong and if in an A/VB case it were established that I were, then I would happily stop. -- 12:42, 7 June 2010 (BST)
I've decided that the idea of Arbies over this matter will actually be quite fun. Let's get it on. -- 12:32, 7 June 2010 (BST)
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