Suggestion:20080515 Scan and Revive tweak- 0 AP for invalid targets

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20080515 Scan and Revive tweak- 0 AP for invalid targets

SIM Core Map.png Swiers 02:24, 15 May 2008 (BST)

Suggestion type
improvement

Suggestion scope
DNA Extractors, Syringes

Suggestion description
What it says. Currently, if you use a DNA Extractor or Syringe on a character who is not currently a zombie, it costs you 1 AP.

It is entirely possible to be trying to revive or scan some zombie (usually either a contact or previously scanned zombie), only to have them not be valid any longer because somebody revived or killed them; this has happened to me. Why should that cost you an AP? If you try to attack somebody and they are already dead or have moved to a new location, that does not cost an AP; why does trying to revive or scan somebody who is no longer a zombie cost one?


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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.


Keep Votes

  1. Keep Yeah, anything that gives you more AP is a good idea.--Jamie Cantwel3 TalkAll glory to the Hypnotoad! 02:43, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  2. I cannot see a reason why not. --The Grimch U! E! WAT! 03:00, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  3. Keep - Yes. This makes sense. If you get to follow through with the action, you shouldnt incur the AP cost. You're already using the IP cost. --Tselita 03:37, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  4. Keep - Annoying game mechanic. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:57, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep - good idea --Jasonjason 05:24, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  6. Change/Keep - I think it would be better if you could scan every player and get exp from the scan. --Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 06:07, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  7. Keep - Sounds ok, I see no potential problems.--  06:20, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  8. Keep - As above.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  08:36, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  9. keep - i concur with the above --Scotw 09:18, 15 May 2008 (BST)
    Keep - I agree. --Coco Roco 09:24, 15 May 2008 (BST) - Sock -- Cheese 00:46, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  10. Keep. Makes sense. --Pgunn 11:04, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  11. Keep - Yup. Makes sense. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 12:49, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  12. keep - until someone finds Kareks link for him --Honestmistake 13:38, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  13. Keep - Sounds good to me. I'm all 4 no AP 4 no action per4med. --Ms.Panes 15:42, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  14. Keep - As Ms.Panes and Tselita and AHLG. No AP for no action = logical. Canarsie Jones 17:35, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  15. Keep until karek becomes less lazy and posts the dupe and then i become less lazy and change my vote. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:38, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  16. KEEP Not a dupeWai Lam 18:49, 15 May 2008 (BST)
    Keep - Why isn't the author voting keep on his own suggestion? It's a good one - Dr Feelgood 18:51, 15 May 2008 (BST) - Sock. -- Cheese 00:46, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  17. Keep - I think it's a good idea. --ZsL 19:06, 15 May 2008 (BST)
    justification why should you have to pay ap for making a non-game mistake? Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong in the vote btw? Guybrush Threepwood 19:57, 15 May 2008 (BST) - Sock -- Cheese 00:46, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  18. Keep - It seems sensible to me. --Diano 21:55, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  19. Keep - I never noticed this happening, but if it does, then this is a good fix for it. --AshLaw 22:05, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  20. Keep - As Diano. Makes sense. --Rex 23:38, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  21. Keep - Don't cheat players out of AP. --UCFSD 14:10, 16 May 2008 (BST)
  22. Keep - Why not. --Pvt human 06:17, 17 May 2008 (BST)
  23. Keep - A sensible fix. ~Ariedartin • Talk • A KS J abt all 06:56, 17 May 2008 (BST)
  24. Keep - As per above --Larspcus2 05:38, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  25. Keep - as above.gabdewulf 15:45, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  26. Keep - I know how frustrating it can be to be curious and DNA scan a survivor only to waste your last AP. That's why I'm voting Keep. Ioncannon11 23:30, 19 May 2008 (BST)
  27. Keep - Makes perfect sense, and we all know how I feel about these things by now.--Kolechovski 00:11, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  28. Keep Makes sense to me. --Pedentic 21:43, 20 May 2008 (BST)
  29. Keep As AHLG said--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 06:14, 21 May 2008 (BST)
  30. Keep - Good improvement --Fifth Element 07:37, 23 May 2008 (BST)
  31. Keep- Sounds good to me. --BKM 03:24, 24 May 2008 (BST)--
  32. Keep - yeah--CorndogheroT-S-Z 07:10, 24 May 2008 (BST)
  33. Looks fine, but consider the change votes below. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:17, 26 May 2008 (BST)


Kill Votes

  1. Kill - It's like shooting a bullet and missing. You attempt to do something, but you fail miserably. --Vandurn 14:06, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  2. Kill - Wrong solution. Racing for kills is part of the game. I think only obvious mistakes (e.g. scanning/reviving yourself, clicking on the GPS unit) should be free. And maybe unsuitable targets shouldn't appear in the drop-down list. Are you sure attacking a moving target is free? I hadn't noticed that but if so I think it was a bad idea. --Explodey 21:24, 15 May 2008 (BST)
    Yes, I'm 100% certain that attacks on non-valid / non-existing targets are free. It is very common as a zombie player to attack a survivor who has "moved away" (or died- the message is the same) or to attack barricades somebody else has torn down, so those make sense to be free. I'm basically proposing the same thing for scanning and revives. IMO, "racing" should not be a part of the game that costs you AP (it already costs you the opportunity for XP etc., which is fine) because logically you would never attempt an action if there wasn't a valid target. Its only the game interface that makes it SEEM there are valid targets in those cases. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 22:46, 15 May 2008 (BST)
  3. Change - Should apply to DNA Scanning, but not needles / reviving. --WanYao 12:57, 16 May 2008 (BST)
  4. Change - As with WanYao. -- THELORDGUNSLINGER 17:33, 16 May 2008 (BST)


Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Dupe - Trust me, it is, I'm just lazy, but I've voted on this at least twice before.--Karekmaps?! 10:28, 15 May 2008 (BST)
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