Suggestion:20081125 Depants

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20081125 Depants

Gus Thomas^SpartaZHU 04:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion type Skill

Suggestion scope Zombies

Suggestion description Upon purchasing this skill, zombies will have a 4th "attack" option to interact with humans. Just as with the three attack options currently used, the attack dropdown menu will allow the zombie to "attack with depants". However, rather then doing damage to the human (as do bite and claw options), the zombie will simply drag the target humans pants/skirt/kilt down.Additionally, a zombie is able to use this skill against zombies wearing pants as well. Zombie will not gain some cryptic method of identifying targets wearing pants, and the player will have to rely on a targets profile to tell if they have pants on or not. Similar to the human ability to attack with a 100% chance to hit with a newspaper, zombies with the depants skill have a 100% success rate (as with Feeding Drag). Finally, once a zombie successfully depants a target, the target is thus in a state of pantslessness until they go through their settings and put a new pair on. Zombies, of course, would have to be revived before they are able to do that. As the zombie brain is limited in its state of undeath, the zombie is unable to distinguish between pants, skirts, kilts or shorts, and all its flavor text will refer to these items of clothing as merely "pants".

• Prerequisities: Player must be zombie at time of skill purchase, just like every other zombie skill.
• Location in Skill tree:Found within the Vigour Mortis skill set, this skill is only available after Feeding Drag is purchased. While technically this would make the skill a 3rd tier (it has two prerequisities), humans already have three such skills (Advanced Pistol Training, Advanced Shotgun Training and NecroNet Access).
• Crossover skill: Humans already have a similar attack when they attack a zombie or a human with a newspaper (see here). Therefore depantsing will be limited to just zombies.
• Cost in XP: 100exp, just like every other zombie skill.
• How it's activated: As explained in description (above), this skill is used same as Feeding Drag. When attacking a human, it will be a 4th "attack" option available to the zombie that has it. Unlike Feeding Drag, there will be no change to the human location.
• Cost in AP: One AP, same as the other zombie attacks.
• Flavor text:
  • When attacking a human with pants or skirt : Zombie will get the message "You drag {target}'s pants down". Humans will get the message "A zombie dragged your pants down" (unless targeted human has attacking zombie in their contacts).
  • When attacking a human with no pants or skirt :Zombie will get the message "{Target} is already pantsless". Zombie will not lose a AP.
  • Third partys : Regardless of being a zombie or a human, anyone in the same immediate area will get the text "A zombie pulled down {Target}'s pants. (time ago)". As with the targets perspective, players would not see the zombies name unless they have them in contacts. In order to witness a depantsing, a player needs to be inside if it occurs inside, or in the same section of the large building (for example, same block of a mall). Finally, regardless of how many players are in the building, everyone there will witness the depantsing. Precedent of this is when a player kills another player, regardless of how many people are in the building, everyone sees it.
    

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The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Author vote, keep for much justice. --Gus Thomas^SpartaZHU 04:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Keep- So very very full of win. --Johnny Bass 04:10, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Keep - Hell yes! --Amber Waves of Pain 04:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Keep - Why the heck not! --mo ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ 04:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Keep - What kind of question is that? YES --KyleStyle 04:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Keep - Absolutely. Humans have far more options to express their sense of humor than zombies do. Death Rattle is barely functional! Give us a fun ability, too! And stop treating an online game like SRS BIZNUS.--Drugsanimudongs 10:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Keep - Pants are an abomination before Barhah. Also, MOAR BENNY HILL! --Mads 14:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
8. Keep - Maybe if Zombies can do more funnies, they will stop that stupid disco dancing thing Spacer One 15:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Keep - This is a great idea. "Text rape" is the lamest excuse I've ever heard. - Insomniac By Choice 19:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
10. Keep - Because pants are so out of fashion.--Drawde ^{Talk To Me! DORIS Яed Яum Defend Ridleybonk! I know Nothing!} 15:45, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
11. Keep - Because I hate survivor fashionistas and don't vote keep often enough for the liking of whiners. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:35, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Massive potential for abuse. Zombification is the only effective method for silencing text rapists, and this gives them a way to retaliate/continue to stalk their victims. I can see some really nasty scenarios resulting if this was adopted. Sorry, Gus. --Violet Begonia _{Dean MCM MOB} 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Kill - As Violet said. It's already hard enough to deal with griefers, both the alive and undead variety. --Saralan ^{Talk 404 ZHU ❤} 05:00, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
3. Kill - I'm all for zombies having a newspaper equivalent but this isn't it.--xoxo 05:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Kill - If you want a zombie equivalent to newspaper attack give them a bad breath weapon. This is just a bad idea with a lot of potential for abuse. Speaking from personal experience I find it hard to see this getting used ONLY as intended. And as a reply to the comment above: you have to consider all the consequences of a decision including the implications that it could be abused. --User:E harmon 00:16 EST, 25 November 2008.
5. Kill - Extreme potential for abuse, tearing off someone's pants without some form of consent like an in game option is sexual assault even in a game. I think the suggestion needs a lot of work. --User:Daemon13 00:16 EST, 25 November 2008.
6. Weak Kill - Interesting ideas, and I know that the majority of the userbase would use it as intended. However, it's that small minority that makes me vote Kill (as the guys above me.) Linkthewindow  Talk  06:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Kill - As J3d (too silly). -- Galaxy125 07:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
8. Trousers. I mean Kill where are these pants you speak of? And its silly. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 08:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Kill - While I'm all for an amusing zombie newspaper equivalent, ripping off someone's clothes without their consent is not it. --Ashate 08:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
10. Kill - With Violet, its extremely open to abuse especially with the fact that everyone sees it. Also I'm not a fan of making it a total separate skill, it does not do enough on it's own to need it. --Zoey Zarg 10:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
11. Kill -- Hell no. I happen to like my clothes, for one thing, and really wouldn't like getting them ripped off. I don't happen to like the idea of walking around half-naked, especially as a female character. And see Ashate and Violet's comments. I would love a zombie equivalent to the newspaper, but this is NOT the way to go. At all. KILL, KILL, and KILL some more. Stab this suggestion, shoot it, burn it, throw it off the cliff, drown it in the ocean. --Jen 14:46, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
12. Kill - Changed my vote after remembering countless "Zambah banana gangbang bra bagz" scenarios. And as for people like Snoodles.... why give zombies another incentive? --Private Mark 15:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
13. Kill - out of genre, bad flavour, potential for griefing. Garum 19:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
14. Kill - As zoey.-- Vista  +1  22:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
15. Kill - Please, no. This would be even worse than text raping.. and with no "ignore option" available. --Janus ^talk 22:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
16. Kill I thought that having no specified clothing was discerned as having nondescript clothing on. If you want to specify no clothes, you write it in your profile. because of that, this wouldn't work. --Destor 22:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
17. Change - Add an ignore option which does not allow the removal of trousers. When the zombie attempts to take them off, they get a message like: "You try to pull down X's trousers but they're wearing a belt. You fail epically and die." -- Cheese 00:08, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
18. Kill - As amusing as this might be, I'd rather not have someone be able to remove part(s) of my outfit. My pants are part of my character, it gives her some life, you know? Or unlife as the case may be. --Ms.Panes 07:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
19. Kill - This would feel too much like a sexual assault to my female characters. I don't find it funny at all. --Lois Millard 15:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
20. Kill - I'm sorry... But I don't think we need somthing over silly as this. --Ltpotter 17:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. SPAM - lol no. go back to rrf. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS MSD pr0n} 04:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
2. Spam - It has the feel of a joke gone too far...--Ryvyoli ^{Y R} 07:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
3. spam - This is a zombie apocalypse not the Benny Hill Show. --Honestmistake 07:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
4. Spam - Humorous Suggestions. --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [509,25]} 09:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
5. Spam - As Midianian. Plus, it is horribly out-of-genre. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 10:16, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
6. Spam - Too much room for abuse. Better suited for Humorous Suggestions. -AbSent 15:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
7. Spam - This is just daft, why would a zombie depant someone? If added to humerous suggestions i would vote for it. --Michaleson ^CAPD 16:18, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
8. Spam - Funny, but it should be in humorous suggestions. --ZsL 18:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
9. Spam - Humourous suggestion. --Papa Moloch 19:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
10. Spam - Humo(u)rous. And as Zoey Zarg and Jen. --Pestolence^(talk) 22:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
11. Spam This isn't even spam, it is vandalism. Not to mention incredibly retarded.--Pesatyel 04:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
12. Spam - Overpowered survivor buff. And, "pants" do not exist in UD, therefore unneeded and senseless. And, finally, as most of the other spam voters, I guess, just to fit in and all that. --WanYao 23:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
13. Spam - Completely pointless. Belongs in humourous suggestions. --Howard Bentley 17:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
14. Spam - Pointless as it does no damage! Why would a zombie bother? Humerous suggestion. --Angusburger 18:05, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
15. Spam - Leave your metagaming memes out of the game mechanics -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 00:56 8 December 2008 (BST)
16. Humourous – C'mon, it's a bit of a laugh, and an old, old gag at that, dating back to the RRF of '05. It's saddening that people are crying "text rape" over this. :( ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 02:04, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

    Spam - I got a chuckle, but no.--mvario 19:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC) Late vote struck. --Midianian ^{Big Brother Diary Room: [500,10]} 00:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)