UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2010 03

March 2010

User:Cornholioo (3)

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	{{{2}}}

I'd like to nominate him for uploading a Swasttika, which according to the last vandal submition regarding him could constitute something hateful/ethically or racially hateful under the following quote from Aichon: "You agree not to use the service to: Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that is...hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable." -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 06:01, 28 March 2010 (BST)

See talk page

Not vandalism. It's been done before. 12:19, 28 March 2010 (BST)

Not Vandalism - Hi, I am user X and today I'll be giving some runt all the attention he wants. --

 

 

 

 

05:17, 29 March 2010 (BST)

User:Firefox42

Firefox42 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	Newb Mistake

Impersonation. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Always so quick to assume a newbie is doing the evils :( Pretty sure it was just a little fail mistake... Not Vandalism. --

 

 

 

 

00:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism - I gotta agree. Soft warn him not to do it again, but otherwise it seems like a newbie mistake, and not bad faith. —Aichon— 02:54, 28 March 2010 (BST)

User:Cornholioo (2)

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	{{{2}}}

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I would like to make a case for the banning of User:Cornholioo from the Urban Dead wiki. Over the past month he has vandalised multiple pages in this wiki, most notably Zyckde's user page, The Urban Guerilla's page here and the Suburban Brigades page here. One of these instances has been discussed before, however, they need to be taken together to see that there is no improvement in his wiki behavior.

Besides the vandalism, there is a bigger issue, namely that of racism. Those who have seen cornhoolio's writing in the wiki, and the things he says in game, might know of his hatred of Jews.

One might say racism and anti-Semitism are two different things. However, as we can see here,

"From the Enlightenment onward, it is no longer possible to draw clear lines of distinction between religious and racial forms of hostility towards Jews." It is clear from cornhoolio's writing that he speaks with disgust about Jews. He does not critique specific elements of a certain religion, but he attacks the sein (being) of any Jew. This is also shown in the hitler adoration that can be seen in the pictures above.

This hitler adoration has one deep contradiction. Instead of pride of hitler's greatest "accomplishment", namely the near extermination of European Jewry, cornhoolio chooses to deny the greatest genocide in human history. As can be seen here (scroll all the way down). On top of his racism, and vandalism, this has caused more grief. Eventhough holocaust denial might fall under freedom of expression, it adds insult to injury in this particular case.

This is no longer about role-playing in a zombie apocalypse game and a wiki. He causes grief. Most recently to Erica Gait who wrote: "imagine asking other survivors (who may have friends, cousins, and relatives that were executed during the Holocaust) to work with your group while you openly flaunt your ideals that was responsible for the death of millions of innocent people".

That is exactly the point. While there is freedom of speech (an organisation such as the Nazi Party of Malton has been in the city for some time) cornhoolio has engaged in a combination of blatant anti-Semitic racism and vandalism. He contributes nothing to the community, and seeks to offend rather than reconcile. His presence in the wiki has been treated with an impressive amount patience and restraint, however, there comes a moment to draw the line. I believe that time has come. --zyckde 18:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

1. It's OK, don't bother to put the templates in, other people will surely do that simple task for you.
2. Your screenshots mean precisely dick here. There is absolutely nothing that you can do in the game that can get you banned from this wiki, exempting coming to Kevan's attention.
3. Holocaust denial is not against the policies of this wiki, nor against the terms and conditions of the site. Denying that a historical event happened is a valid use of one's freedom of speech, the FES denied that the earth was round on this wiki for years, DORIS denies that Pluto is no longer a planet, none of these breaks any guideline. It may make people look stupid but isn't cause for banning someone just because the thing they're denying emotionally resonates with you more than the others.
4. Learn to use internal links, it reduces server load.
5. Are we banning people based on causing grief? I seem to remember it was you and your group that gave him cause to start a page in the mainspace that kicked this all off, can we ban you and wipe your group from the wiki?
6. The escalation policy is clear, perma votes come after a month ban. We are not having one before just because you don't like someone for whatever reason. Cases like this are the only time I wish I could rule on these fucking things.

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

You have not responded to the main issues, namely: the multiple vandalisms, after warnings, and the racism. The shots were just to illustrate, and also the "grief" is only sketching the circumstances. Please respond to the main issues,not the rhetorical clutter: vandalism and racism. --zyckde 19:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't have to respond to the individual 'issues' as you put it, and neither does any ruling sysop. The burden of proof is on you to provide diffs that show explicit vandalism. You should not be going off on a self righteous rant about why you think he should be banned, but rather detail each offence and bring it here at the appropriate time. He has one warning at the moment, which means he is due another, a 24 hour, one week and one month ban before we even consider looking at a perma. He could post racist slurs at the rate of one a day and you'd still have to wait 4 more days before the permanent ban is even considered. Don't like it? Go change the damned policy, but don't cry here about historical tragedy in an attempt to emotional blackmail sysops into removing someone you don't like from this wiki. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:53, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

He's right with this. Definitely vandalism. This is a bit gray, but he should know better by now.--Thadeous Oakley 19:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you've been warned before about commenting about what is and what isn't definite vandalism on this page. Your opinion on the matter is irrelevant. I'm also sure that one of these has been dealt with in an unofficial way, and that's invalidated cases in the past. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:53, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm merely pointing out several edits made by him mentioned in Zycke's wall of text. I'm not deciding whether or not it is vandalism, because I'm not a sysops. --Thadeous Oakley 20:04, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

see talk page --Thadeous Oakley 20:04, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Right. The initial editing of a user page got him a vandalism warning. The edits to other group pages has been explained in detail on his talk page. On arbitration its been clearly explained to him the specific editing guidelines. Any further incidents of any of this will be treated as vandalism, and we'll pursue the vandalism process fully. In the meantime I direct everyone to the following simple advice. Any user at the centre of drama is usually there because they choose to be. We've now got 3 separate Arbitration cases on the go, not including discussions on several separate talk pages, both personal and admin based. If its your talk page, go ahead and delete whatever you find offensive, no replies, nothing. Does anyone expect an intelligent debate, or sensible dialogue? Do you feel you are going to change coorns mind? The worst thing we can all do is waste our time fueling anothers self importance. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I think you need to have a little lesson yourself Devorac, I've already given Cornholioo a short one, but I'm going to summarise my annoyance with you two users with a few quick words: Stop using the admin pages as your own personal bitchslapping arenas. For example, you don't know how A/VB works, else you'd know that not only would we not want to ban Cornholioo, but we aren't actually permitted to do so under several wiki policies that govern fairness to users and their rights and privileges. A/A is already a massive fuckup, first perhaps you should focus your effort towards dealing with Cornholioo there. We can't ban him at this point, end of story. However, if sysops wish to give him another warning for his recent string of annoying propaganda on enemies group pages, I will support it, despite the fact I gave him an unofficial warning (you can find it here) which I think will ensure he won't do it again. --

 

 

 

 

02:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Huh? Why am I being brought into this one? -Devorac 04:25, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I think he may mean Zyckde. 04:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I got my factions and people mixed up, I meant zyckde. --

 

 

 

 

05:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism - I've waited a bit, but since no one else seems eager to say it, I'll go ahead and do so. There are procedures to follow around here, and we don't have cause for banning him outright. He's made a few vandal/borderline edits (which were brought up again in this case), and has already been appropriately warned for them, so no further action is warranted. In terms of racism, the holocaust denial was the only evidence presented in this case, so it's what I'm working with. The ToS says, "You agree not to use the service to: Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that is...hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable." In my opinion, denying the truth over an event of historic significance does not fall into that category. Since no other evidence was provided, that's where things stand for me on this particular case. —Aichon— 23:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

It's not so much that we weren't eager to say it- quite the opposite in fact. The reason Ross and I didn't bother adding a vote is because there isn't really much of a case in this at all. --

 

 

 

 

00:50, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually I hadn't ruled because the vandalism differences brought up in the case had already been dealt with. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 00:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Fair. Either way, it was never specifically necessary --

 

 

 

 

02:31, 28 March 2010 (BST)

Well, I didn't mean it to be a poke at you guys. Just a "let's make it official" type of thing. We were all clearly on the same page, but no one had actually ruled yet to get it done with. —Aichon— 02:46, 28 March 2010 (BST)

Group hug? (>'')> <(''<) 02:52, 28 March 2010 (BST)

User:Poodle_of_doom

Poodle of doom (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	None required

I report this user for swearing and insulting. It's at the bottom of the cornholioo vs devorac page, here: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/A/A --Cornholioo 12:21, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

To save everyone some time searching, he's complaining about this edit, though it shouldn't matter much, since there's no civility policy. —Aichon— 14:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Not vandalism -- Cheese 16:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Not vandalism Freedom of expression. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:40, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

"Freedom of expression" when insulting someone. Often used nonesense argument. --Cornholioo 8:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Dude, you own a fucking neo-nazi group. --

 

 

 

 

09:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I could have just repeated it in a baby voice. Would that be better? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:55, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

To be more clear, we don't have any sort of policy or guideline on this wiki to support civility, except in the case of long term harassment/bullying. What you received from POD was actually tame compared to stuff I've seen on this wiki.

In fact, you should really be thankful that everything he said was actually stupid, wrong, uncalled for and hypocritical. --

 

 

 

 

09:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm actually surprised that he didn't take offense at this comment instead.... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 22:48, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

You posted that after he had already started this case. :P —Aichon— 22:55, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Didn't realize, glad you pointed it out! Bet he files on that complaint to,... or all the ones subsequent to it... -Poodle of Doom^{M! T} 23:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Sandman'

Sandman' (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

Edits made to the Blackmore Building status, in particuler this followed by this. The original report says 17 zombies had taken the building however the accused claims 50 level 1 zergs de-caded, opened the doors, killed everyone and would have ruined (I don't need to point out the flaws there). However 11 minutes after the edit the accused decided it was really 30 zergs, the other 20 were mirage zergs. The only coordinated group hitting the building numbered 8 at max and was a team of RRF members and non-affiliated zombies, never when they got in did they see 30-50 zergs. People present can also back up that the accused's claims are lies. The only zergs present in Blackmore were Sandman' and his other two alts (listed and can provide proof, something he can't do).

Other vandalism may include replacing a similarly factual, NPOV account of the building status to a POV one directed against his enemies. Also found there is his claim that it's in fact a rot revive, a view not shared by survivors or zombies. I believe the frequency of his acts coupled with his actively zerging against zombies in the suburb is proof of bad intentions. -- Papa Jadkor ^{(RRF) (MotA) (MT11)} 10:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism Baseless accusations, false information. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Sgt Raiden

Sgt Raiden (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

This edit. Take your pick from impersonation (he tags his sig onto a sentence written clearly in the first person on a user page) or editing a user page without permission (the Vois precedent, nowhere in The Village Mormon's contributions does he give permission for people to edit his user page. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 06:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Warned -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:10 21 March 2010 (BST)

User:Martino

Martino (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

This user uploaded Image:Holocaust00.jpg and Image:Holocaust-bodies.jpg. We've had users escalated before where nudity is implied rather than shown, on both of these images there is full frontal male and female nudity. Unlike certain cases where this has been ruled not vandalism, these images have no artistic value and are not uploaded for the purposes of enhancing the verisimilitude of the game, they are there to manipulate, shock and cause distress to other users. This is proven in this edit where Martino singles out the talk page of LG only and not any other Knight even though there are multiple ways to find members of the group on this wiki. For those who don't know, LG is a sweet girl and this is an obviously bad faith attack on her solely. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 23:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism, it's not unusual to find those pics when it comes to ww2 related things, but they're not meant to be used that way.--Big Cat 00:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I was conflicted because I'd uploaded one of those images in 2007 for my Fenis page, but mine wasn't to shock/offend and as such it was cropped much more. vandalism because its using gratuitous imagery to offend. But really... "sweet girl"? Are you sure you buttered the case up enough? --

 

 

 

 

00:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

It's not like her being nice matters anyway, equal treatment (as it should be. >:|)--Big Cat 00:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah exactly, that's why I found it so strange to mention it... --

 

 

 

 

01:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism. Honestly, you think everything on UDwiki is calming down and then this krinks things happens.... --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Am I guilty of exposing how disgusting nazism is? I guess. I went to far? Maybe. But just notice that it was never meant to be disrespectful against the victims in the image. It was just supposed to be shocking, I'm tired of people trying to erase what nazism was. (and I put that on LG page because she killed an anti-fascist and thus she started to actively helping the nazis). Now it's up to you. --Martino 16:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

See talk page for additional discussion.

Case closed as vandalism, images deleted, warning and A/VD entry being done now.--Big Cat 20:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Pathetic Bill X

Pathetic Bill X (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

Vandal edit to a group page.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 21:43, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Warned. Checkuser also throws up Johnny Slickfingers as a possible alt. I'm not sure which is the main so I'll just warn this one for now. -- Cheese 21:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

The main would be the older one in most circumstances. He's using both still (I haven't ip'd him, just going off of what you said), so it's safe to say Johnny would be the technical alt, and someone should ask him about the situation (and make a note on VD about him using the other account). HINT HINT.--Big Cat 10:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I haven't IP'd him either, but I don't mind just warning the one that committed the vandalism if a sysop can't tell which one is the main. If begun a string of vandal edits then we could just ban the account using it as a vandal alt anyway... In any case, SA, you lazy man, not only is there a link to this users A/VD entry right above you, but Cheese already made a note about the alt account anyway >=D --

 

 

 

 

10:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

(I got used cheese not being around much, and was reminding him. I'm nice like that. And the link only works if there is previous data, otherwise it just shoves you at the top of the page. ;_;)--Big Cat 23:11, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

I would like to make note that I am not an alt of this guy, and I didn't have any proir knowledge of his existence until the leader of the group I joined brought it to my attention. I would like to ask how you came to the conclusion I was an alt though, seems like you guys just saw a new account and said IMPOSTAH! while twirling your evil admin mustaches. Cheers guys, respond on my talk please. Johnny Slickfingers 11:55 am, 17 March 2010.

Now I find the fact that we have the same IP distressing. I mostly get on here from a college library computer. Is it possible that the same or similar IP is being used for the entire library? Being completly honest I have no connection with this guy. I really do not need this kind of crap on here, I play this game for the fun of it, not for grief and douchebaggery. If you have any ideas or solutions for me, answer on my talk. Johnny Slickfingers 2:17 pm, 17 March 2010.

User:Thaedracy (2)

Thaedracy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	vandalism
Action taken	24Hr. ban

Blanking VB and Cyberbob's page. --~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 02:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Pretty obvious vandalism; Banned for one day. --~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 02:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Thaedracy

Thaedracy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

Blanking a group's policy page. This isn't a new thing. 20:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Moar. 23:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Third time tonight. Someone else get ruling. 23:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you rule on your own in obvious cases such as these. --Thadeous Oakley 23:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Fairly obvious vandalism. Been Warned. Second time as well. Lets see if he's clever enough to stop. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:15, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I wonder why he's doing it. I don't any relation between the pages or his motives. --Thadeous Oakley 23:16, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm just glad he's not commenting on Admin Pages. The Crazy Cat. Still some of his edits seem vaguely constructive so no perma. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Sorakairi

Sorakairi (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

Editing a user page. Just like the case below this one.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism - As below. 18:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalsim, warning given.--Big Cat 10:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Cornholioo

Cornholioo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

Editing a user page that is not his own, Karloth Vois precedent. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 22:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism. Minor, but still bad-faith. 22:25, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalsim, warning given.--Big Cat 10:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Saromu (2)

Saromu (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	{{{2}}}

For spamming up A/M with silly little cases simply because we voted Not Vandalism on a case he brought. Just making frivolous misconduct cases and arguing on them till the death, just to cause drama. --

 

 

 

 

22:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

You think I'm being silly? Obviously you do not care about rules. The Guidelines of this wiki state that Sysops are above wiki rules and are held to the same standard, the only exception being Kevan. If you want that to change then write a nice little letter to Kevan asking him to make you as special as he is. Until then, fuck off and stop trying to elevate yourself above wiki rules. You blatantly abused your sysop position to discriminate against one user for living in Central America and bail out a fellow sysop. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 22:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Are you kidding? I didn't know he was from central america and I gave less of a shit than Misanthropy. --

 

 

 

 

23:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and we know you are less than capable of being serious at the best of times. --

 

 

 

 

23:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a sysop. Not my job to take what I do seriously. If you don't like it, quit. Nothing of value will be lost. And Misanthropy knows that Woot is from Central America. Thinking of reversing your not vandalism now? --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 23:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually the only thing I've learnt from this whole debacle is this Central American thing. 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh also vandalism. May as well. 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved to talk page

3 cases isn't properly spamming A/M, Iscariot's far better at it. If Sonny isn't happy with a ruling let him challenge it. Not Vandalism. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

That's the thing. It isn't ruled on. Only two sysops have voted and the case isn't closed. He's jumping the gun in massive proportions just to have his way. --

 

 

 

 

03:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

moved to talk page

Not Vandalism Oh, and ddr? It's not afraid to come here so much as I really hate the clique, best-bud bullshit just about every single op is pulling lately. Oh, and the fact that you're being a power-badging cunt still.--Big Cat 02:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved to talk

Case Closed as Not Vandalism. --

 

 

 

 

11:30, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Saromu

Saromu (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	{{{2}}}

Numerous bad-faith homophobic comments. May as well actually do something about it instead of just ignoring a problem. 15:23, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I had very good intentions when I said those things. Also, precedent has been set. While the word "nigger" is used to offend, even as a joke, the word "faggot" is a figure of speech to describe someone who is not cool or well liked. In fact it can be said to be similar to the use of the word "retard" on the wiki, which as precedent shows is allowed because it "does indeed get the contributors opinion across quite effectively". Also, as seen here boxy and DDR defend the use of the word "retard" because of its popular meaning. As such I have brought up Urban Dictionary which defends my use of the word because I am saying you a loser. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 17:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism - We've had this argument before, off the record. ask the always-frothing Thad. Don't make this wiki a censorship plaza guys. --

 

 

 

 

22:47, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh look, someone is now flipflopping back and forth to avoid misconduct. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 23:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

No, I've always said bagging homos and retards was good in the past. Look above at your own case, how do you like them avoiding a/m apples, you fucking idiot. --

 

 

 

 

23:08, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism. Shit's so Alim --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 23:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

You can be a faggot without being gay, you know. Not vandalism, I expect better of the sysops team.--Big Cat 02:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

And black without being a nigger amirite? xoxo 04:52, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Case Closed as not vandalism. --

 

 

 

 

11:30, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Misanthropy

Misanthropy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	{{{2}}}

Racism against a user. I expect more from sysops. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 22:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved to talk page

Seriously, Not Vandalism. The word 'nigger' has one purpose and one purpose only: to offend. even as a joke, it has 0 joke value. This was a simple joke and before you cry elitism (which I know will come Sonny) I've stood by this time and time before with J3D, even, in back-to-back cases. --

 

 

 

 

08:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I never said either were humorous. Misanthropy said an offensive comment towards Mexicans. If you call a Mexican a "dirty Mexican" he will be offended as it is racism. I am warning right now, if you do not keep precedent I will miscontribute you. Also, you're a buttfucking faggot. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 09:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

If I was a Mexican lesbian, and had just finished a bout of mud wrestling, I would indeed be dirty. Not Vandalism --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

But Woot is none of these. Misanthropy said this knowing that Woot lives in Central America. And look what I found, DDR DEFENDING the use of the word "nigger" as long as it isn't used as spam. Right here. In fact in the Archive of his talk page J3D also said it here. Funny. It's fine for it to be on DDR's talk page, but if Woot says it on his own talk page it isn't. This isn't elitist, this is pure "I'm a faggot with power so I'm going to get away with it as long as my faggot friends are also in power." Fuck your shit, he racially insulted a user on this wiki. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 09:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

That was before it was found to be against the TOU. Otherwise, listen to ross. --

 

 

 

 

09:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Ouch, a day and no reply? So you were taken aback by the fact there was an actual reason this wiki became strict on the rule? Oh no Sonny, where to now? There must be only one more way to turn to have this fixed up: To A/M! --

 

 

 

 

22:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved to talk page

Vandalism Racism is still racism. If I called someone a dirty mexican, or other similar derogative, I'd expect to be ruled as a vandal, because IT'S CLEARLY A FUCKING RACIST COMMENT DEAR GOD WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE? Just because Rak, Jed and Sonny do it(And get in trouble for it) does NOT mean it's okay.--Big Cat 02:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't close this just yet, anybody, till the a/m cases are up, methinks. --

 

 

 

 

11:30, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

You could just change your votes and the cases will be dropped. SA already made it clear that this was racism. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 12:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

or not. Because I'm pretty sure me and DDR thinks it isn't vandalism. I think that's clear. a position we haven't changed regardless of the misconduct cases. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

No, I'm quite good thanks? I'm not the one in any sort of hurry to have this closed. --

 

 

 

 

12:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Racist. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 12:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Moved to talk page

Look guys, being that we're from a pretty diverse set of cultures, there is going to be confusion with some phrases. It was still a rather racist comment in some countries and areas though. So how about this, it was Vandalism, but due to the nature of languages, it will end up as a soft warning. This time. Any future racist comments will be thoroughly discussed, and punished if necessary. The practice of calling people faggots and retards is still acceptable though. Does this sound appealing to the other sysops?--Big Cat 23:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Um, no. There is no way someone should go down for vandalism if the votes are against it. Soft warning is fine though. --

 

 

 

 

06:01, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I know it's not vandalism so far, I was pushing for you guys to realize just what is going on, and change your stance. :| --Big Cat 00:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, I thought you were asking to rule vandalism anyway :/ nvm. Look, I'm not changing my mind but I'm happy with a soft warning to Misanthropy. --

 

 

 

 

00:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

It's only majority for not vandalism because your head is so far up his ass that when you spit it comes out of his mouth. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 11:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

If you came here more than once every six months you'd probably know I don't actually get on with Misanthropy at all. At the moment you're sucking W00T's dick more than anybody. --

 

 

 

 

11:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't like Woot. I'm defending equality against racism. I couldn't give a shit if Woot is unbanned or not. I just don't want one user getting banned while a sysop is free because his gay lover is also a sysop named DDR, but I'm not trying to point fingers. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 01:48, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Toot toot! All aboard the bad argument train! --

 

 

 

 

03:35, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Nice joke stealing. While I can safely say I do not like Woot I know you cannot say the same for Misanthropy. You, him, and cyberfag are one large menage et trois. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 12:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, and no, you have no idea how wrong you are, but I guess I'll assume you're just trolling, as per usual. --

 

 

 

 

12:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism - using this type of humour, on admin pages, in a case where you are voting vandalism on someone for similar? M\It was meant to be ironic, I guess, but just ended up being hypocritical -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 21:45 20 March 2010 (BST)

Alright. I think this has had long enough, I'm throwing it down the toilet as Not Vandalism as a tie. If any other ops wish to intervene later on with a vote they may. --

 

 

 

 

09:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Zombierock

Zombierock (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

Are you ready for the House style genius of this one?

The defendant commits vandalism. You cross reference the name that he substituted into the leadership we find this guy and this case.

Therefore, adding someone who has already vandalised FU pages as Bullgod's chosen successor must be vandalism, added to the fact that the original Dabomb case was never entered onto Vandal Data. So, a warning for Zombierock and the last warning for Dabomb (going back over two years) needs recording properly. That's two entries for the low, low price of one case. I'm claiming two for that, the streak increases to eight! -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've updated A/VD with the 2008 entry, and I've warned this user. However as I did it, the thought occured to me that it may be a dedicated vandal account related to the above 2008 case. Thoughts anyone? --

 

 

 

 

05:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

It still counts as two for scoring. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:55, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

That's not exactly my main concern here :/ --

 

 

 

 

05:57, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

OK then, there's no direct evidence to suggest they are the same user, could just as easily be a friend of Dabomb08's thinking it's funny to put him in the leadership of a group he hated. Any evidence that they are the same user is purely circumstantial given that checkuser won't show anything. Think of it this way, if it is a one shot vandal account, he's not likely to use it again/we'll catch any future disruption quickly. Given that the account is unlikely to make any more edits whether its an alt or a separate person, leave it at a warning. All he can do is commit more vandalism and give you the three edit perma clause as an option.

Definitely counts as two though. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 06:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Jimdo

Jimdo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

Editing another user's page, vandalism as per the Karloth Vois precedent. Also, six in a row, I want a prize. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he deserves a prize for cracking down on vandals like this, how dar he post stuff like that on my user page >:D --^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I consider this relatively straightforward, so I've warned him. --

 

 

 

 

05:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

User:WOOT

WOOT (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	1 month ban

Racism, again. Do I win a prize if I get five cases in a row? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:29, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

El Vandalismo. Is that dirty mexican ever going to learn? Also yes. Hit the high score. 03:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Les Vandalism. Fact.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 16:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Faggots. The lot of you. Except Rosslessness... and Iscariot... so yea... You're a faggot Goribus--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 00:35, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

I like woot, but this is vandalism, and as such I've hit him with the one-monther. Next vandal thing he does and we'll get the pleasure of doing a perma vote >=D. --

 

 

 

 

05:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Gabe896

Gabe896 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

Every single contribution of 2010. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:52, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism. Yadda yadda, zerg, unhappy at being caught, bladda bloo, Psych's on leave at the minute too so he's missing the fun. :( 02:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism and will warn after I make dinner. --

 

 

 

 

05:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Warned --

 

 

 

 

10:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Ravenium

Ravenium (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warned

Impersonation. Normally I'd let this go as a newbie error, but he's shown before that he's capable of signing correctly, even in danger reports and the impersonation was to disparage a group without proof, it's drama causing vandalism that he's committed. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Interesting - I've attempted to post current statuses of buildings as I progress through suburbs (and have in fact done dozens of these), yet you find the one where I apparently neglected to properly update the username? When I first started my updates on here, I admit I didn't RTFW and didn't realize at first that you could just hit four tildes instead of manually updating the user/timestamp, so this resulted in a lot of mis-dated building danger level updates (as well as bad signature links).

Furthermore, my "agenda" is to provide current status updates for survivors on buildings, seeing as a status left at "safe" would be counterproductive if zeds are currently raiding the beer fridge inside. If this is an incorrect use, I'd appreciate someone explaining how. You, on the other hand, seem to use building danger updates to disparage others or boast about how Super Awesome Cool your particular group is (a good example is where you tried to take credit and brag about an RP you didn't even have any hand in whatsoever). It's come to the point wherein you have repeatedly deleted my updates on buildings simply because you seem to have something against me.

I realize that this game is extremely dominated by zed groups and PKers, but there are those of us who like the added challenge of actually playing survivor. It would help if you didn't behave like an asshat on top of it, too. Ravenium 01:37, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

"so this resulted in a lot of mis-dated building danger level updates (as well as bad signature links)" - An out and out lie. Checking your contributions show that all contributions prior to your vandalism were exactly the same as server time, every single one, different time zones maybe, but not one wrong, nor any indication that you were placing bad sig links or rushing to fix off-dates.

"my "agenda" is to provide current status updates for survivors" - Then you're on the wrong wiki. This wiki is here for both sides, if you can't understand basic NPOV criteria, LURK MOAR!

"You, on the other hand, seem to use building danger updates to disparage others or boast about how Super Awesome Cool your particular group is" - Might be an idea that you do your homework first. I am not, and never have been, a member of the Militant Order of Barhah. Though you have claimed they're griefers, without providing a single shred of evidence, even when asked by a member. Your 'mistake' seems a little 'convenient', disparage a group using someone else's signature. Not only are you a vandal, but a spineless one for not owning up when caught.

"I realize that this game is extremely dominated by zed groups and PKers" - Basic common sense and the stats page diagrees with you. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 01:54, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandarism. Your griefer are in another castle. 02:29, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism - good grief the talk page is right there Cyberbob  Talk  03:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism - man, the only thing I hate more than Iscariot bullying newer users is a survivor who actually thinks 'zombies and pkers' are in the majority. Even so, dumb news that also impersonates and spreads misinformation. --

 

 

 

 

05:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Warned. --

 

 

 

 

05:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Zyckde

Zyckde (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

Editing a group page of which he is not a member. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 12:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Warned. Cyberbob  Talk  12:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Silly Newb mistake, but Vandalism. Lets give him some tough love. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 13:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Nezhaulcoyotl_II

Nezhaulcoyotl_II (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandal Alt
Action taken	Perma'd

Alt of the above. Follows the exact same MO as the last version, create userpage with mythic image immediately uploaded. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:05, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh man, got any checkuser data to back this up, or just a simple series of edits? If I created a user and made a userpage edit and uploaded an image would I get permabanned? --

 

 

 

 

04:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

20 minutes after admitting that one alt had been caught (roughly the time it was taking for him to sort proxies on the mass vandalism attack the other night) a 'new' user shows up with exactly the same MO and writing style....

Don't I remember J3D getting demoted for making sarky comments instead of dealing with a vandal account? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:21, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't I remember J3D's demotion being a culmination of his terrible behaviour as a sysop because he defended his friends (one of which, sexylegsread, actually made the alt account in question, as a direct attack on another user? Oh, not to mention the IP evidence against said alt account which was more than enough evidence to ban on sight unlike this one)? Oh yes, that's perfect precedence. But you know misconduct when you see it, why not send me to A/M now? Do the honours, sherlock. --

 

 

 

 

04:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

All this crying and still no ruling? Go ahead and say not vandalism, I enjoy the 'I told you so' song. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:38, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

When I squint that almost sounds like backseat modding, hmm. I'm not ruling yet because I'm not sure, and only because I've spent more effort in my day responding to your trolling than actually checking this user out fully. You are an energy sapper, you. --

 

 

 

 

04:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

stop arguing over me guys its embarrassing, nothing has been stopped FA18hornet 05:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Check user shows nothing, but then again, it wouldn't. I'm going to rule vandalism on suspicion and good circumstantial evidence. 23:06, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm ruling Not Vandalism. All it takes is for the above vandal to see we are making a fuss out of this account and claim it is his, to see if we are so paranoid we ban this one too. I'm not saying I'll be surprised if it is, but I'm not going gun-ho on all suspect accounts when there is no evidence, I'd rather wait for it to do an act of (easily reversible) vandalism first, to make sure. I'll happily admit if I'm wrong. --

 

 

 

 

23:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Six fucking days to rule, and now you decide to so I have to move it into the new archive. Thanks. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 23:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Boo-fucking hoo. I was waiting for the impending vandalism you promised the account would make. Goes to show what happens when I listen to you. --

 

 

 

 

23:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism. DDR, quit doing things because you don't like the user who brought the case.--Big Cat 22:12, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, lol.--Big Cat 22:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I find that offensive. Go back to wherever you came from, you little shit. --

 

 

 

 

22:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Only if you join me! ;)--Big Cat 00:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Everyone wants to rule vandalism but no one actually wants to go through with banning the account? What a mighty surprise. Banned. --

 

 

 

 

06:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Pretty sure most situations like that have more to do with not wanting to jump the gun and risk a misconduct case in case sysops come out of nowhere and decide they disagree with the decision rather than any actual reluctance to see the person banned Cyberbob  Talk  11:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

That is garbage, I can't express how much precedence there is in a/m already to say that a sysop cannot be misconducted for simply acting on a ruling that is supported via sysop votes. --

 

 

 

 

11:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

It's never stopped people from trying, and sysops can be fickle about deciding whether or not there was enough of a chance given for other rulings to be made. Cyberbob  Talk  11:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Nubis once used a case on Iscariot that didn't have a single ruling to rule vandalism, ban him for a week (when it should have been a day) based off his one ruling and then proceed to press the sysops into voting for his permaban while izzy was too busy being banned to defend his own case. he got off on unanimous not misconduct. You see where I'm going here? I really don't think users like SA didn't close this case cause he was scared of being a/m'd. he was probably more scared of actually having go onto udwiki itself. --

 

 

 

 

11:59, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

man you crazy Cyberbob  Talk  12:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

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