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:These images. Honestly, the internet is full of all kind of idiots and disgusting people like neonazi's, this really isn't much of a surprise. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
:These images. Honestly, the internet is full of all kind of idiots and disgusting people like neonazi's, this really isn't much of a surprise. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
::Also as Aichon. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
::Also as Aichon. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I didn't say I was surprised, I said that the real disgusting thing is that there are actually people who support the actions portrayed in the pics and that seems to be acceptable. I illustrate what these neo-nazi groups mean and suddenly I'm the bad guy. Maybe I went a little bit over the edge, but come on... --[[User:Martino|Martino]] 18:20, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


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JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz

Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. -- SomethingSomething.gif 14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh, unless of course that scenario would end in a double vote like you described. Apologies. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Totally right. I didn't realize Halfdan's were timestamped before JISOR's. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Sister Mary

moved from main page

Blanked User talk:Sniper4625 - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ Sniper4625 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:37 June 3 2018.
Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC).
Southpark tearlick.gif--Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 00:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --Dragonshardz (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. Swissaboo (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding onto this, in their protection request they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. Swissaboo (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm sure you meant WIKI LAW when you said RULES. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) Sister Mary (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D Sister Mary (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)
Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. Sniper4625 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. Sniper4625 (talk) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 02:22, 4 June 2018.

Vandalism and a Warning. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. Aichon 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --Dragonshardz (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC).

Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.----RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User: Revenant

Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? A ZOMBIE ANT 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh god, I hope it never went that far. I can't help but feel it was Iscariot just being a bit narky about stuff. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

User:The Goth Store Owner

*snif* *snif* I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --hagnat 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page? Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --KCLZA 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

So quiet

* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *
What happened to this place ? --hagnat 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me to drop the DramaLevel. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! -- Spiderzed 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I like where this is going. Step back everyone, I got A/M covered. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The fact that the drama level was updated almost prompted me to raise it a level, since that's more drama than we've had in months. Aichon 06:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
DDRs threat to use A/M before there even is a VB verdict alienates me. I will pre-emptively file an arbitration to forbid him from posting on A/M for 5.73 venusian years. -- Spiderzed 20:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Foiled again by the cabal. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you can update the DramaLevel to the lesser level of drama. This place is so quiet. --hagnat 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Ehh, I'm still a little on alert from the big bot attack last week. Not a true old-school drama, but it qualifies. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems the big bot attack got under controle. Whoever pulled that out, congrats :) --hagnat 17:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


March 2010

User:Martino

But what is more more shocking: these images or the fact that there are groups in UD actively supporting this kind of racism and genocide? --Martino 16:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

You seem to be missing that point. Whether one is more shocking than the other is not important when the question is whether what you did was acceptable or not. Aichon 18:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
These images. Honestly, the internet is full of all kind of idiots and disgusting people like neonazi's, this really isn't much of a surprise. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Also as Aichon. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I didn't say I was surprised, I said that the real disgusting thing is that there are actually people who support the actions portrayed in the pics and that seems to be acceptable. I illustrate what these neo-nazi groups mean and suddenly I'm the bad guy. Maybe I went a little bit over the edge, but come on... --Martino 18:20, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

User:Devorac

Hello,

A user called Devorac has been causing vandalism to the Battle of Krinks page. He has been re-adding subjective texts after I've removed them. See also this link: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Krinks&diff=1677678&oldid=1677674 Could you please give him a warning or something?

Thanks in advance,

cornholioo.

User:Misanthropy

Racism against a user. I expect more from sysops. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 22:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

If your really going to walk down that line I have numerous anti-gay remarks by you. Very distasteful is what they could be referred as, the lot of them having to do with very negative things about homosexuals. Just a thought there sonny ;) -- Emot-argh.gif 00:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Precedent has been set for racism, not homophobia. If a sysop wants to slap a warning on me for homophobia then that's fine. However, this is about Misanthropy, a sysop, breaking his own rule on racism. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 03:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Well then to be technical Woot's saying compared to Misanthropy's. One is racist, another is a drink. If you needed further references here you go Woot's and Misanthropy's. While the comment is in bad taste, its technically not racist. -- Emot-argh.gif 04:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah. And when I call people fags I'm calling them cigarettes. Get your head out of your ass. "Dirty Mexican" is a derogatory phrase on par with calling someone of Italian descent a "wop" or of Chinese descent a "zipperhead". It's still racism. And if people want to make the argument still that its a drink then I will fight Woot's one month ban since this drink exists. So does this one and this one. Making racism nonexistent since a drink of the same name exists. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 07:41, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, Not Vandalism. The word 'nigger' has one purpose and one purpose only: to offend. even as a joke, it has 0 joke value. This was a simple joke and before you cry elitism (which I know will come Sonny) I've stood by this time and time before with J3D, even, in back-to-back cases. --

08:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I never said either were humorous. Misanthropy said an offensive comment towards Mexicans. If you call a Mexican a "dirty Mexican" he will be offended as it is racism. I am warning right now, if you do not keep precedent I will miscontribute you. Also, you're a buttfucking faggot. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 09:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
If I was a Mexican lesbian, and had just finished a bout of mud wrestling, I would indeed be dirty. Not Vandalism --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
But Woot is none of these. Misanthropy said this knowing that Woot lives in Central America. And look what I found, DDR DEFENDING the use of the word "nigger" as long as it isn't used as spam. Right here. In fact in the Archive of his talk page J3D also said it here. Funny. It's fine for it to be on DDR's talk page, but if Woot says it on his own talk page it isn't. This isn't elitist, this is pure "I'm a faggot with power so I'm going to get away with it as long as my faggot friends are also in power." Fuck your shit, he racially insulted a user on this wiki. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 09:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
That was before it was found to be against the TOU. Otherwise, listen to ross. -- 09:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Ouch, a day and no reply? So you were taken aback by the fact there was an actual reason this wiki became strict on the rule? Oh no Sonny, where to now? There must be only one more way to turn to have this fixed up: To A/M! -- 22:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Double standards are cool. --Goofy McCoy mfd HK-47 talk 09:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism Racism is still racism. If I called someone a dirty mexican, or other similar derogative, I'd expect to be ruled as a vandal, because IT'S CLEARLY A FUCKING RACIST COMMENT DEAR GOD WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE? Just because Rak, Jed and Sonny do it(And get in trouble for it) does NOT mean it's okay.--Big Cat 02:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't close this just yet, anybody, till the a/m cases are up, methinks. --

11:30, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

You could just change your votes and the cases will be dropped. SA already made it clear that this was racism. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 12:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
or not. Because I'm pretty sure me and DDR thinks it isn't vandalism. I think that's clear. a position we haven't changed regardless of the misconduct cases. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
No, I'm quite good thanks? I'm not the one in any sort of hurry to have this closed. -- 12:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Racist. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 12:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism: whether or not his comment was racist or offensive is irrelevant here - an off-the-cuff remark like that simply isn't vandalism. Chief Seagull talk 14:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Only sysops can rule on vandal banning cases.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
You're an idiot. Vandalism is any edit in bad faith. Racism is bad faith. User:Woot was already banned for a month for a racist comment. Go back to your fucking hugbox. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 18:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Look guys, being that we're from a pretty diverse set of cultures, there is going to be confusion with some phrases. It was still a rather racist comment in some countries and areas though. So how about this, it was Vandalism, but due to the nature of languages, it will end up as a soft warning. This time. Any future racist comments will be thoroughly discussed, and punished if necessary. The practice of calling people faggots and retards is still acceptable though. Does this sound appealing to the other sysops?--Big Cat 23:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Saromu (2)

For spamming up A/M with silly little cases simply because we voted Not Vandalism on a case he brought. Just making frivolous misconduct cases and arguing on them till the death, just to cause drama. --

22:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

You think I'm being silly? Obviously you do not care about rules. The Guidelines of this wiki state that Sysops are above wiki rules and are held to the same standard, the only exception being Kevan. If you want that to change then write a nice little letter to Kevan asking him to make you as special as he is. Until then, fuck off and stop trying to elevate yourself above wiki rules. You blatantly abused your sysop position to discriminate against one user for living in Central America and bail out a fellow sysop. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 22:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Are you kidding? I didn't know he was from central america and I gave less of a shit than Misanthropy. -- 23:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and we know you are less than capable of being serious at the best of times. -- 23:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm not a sysop. Not my job to take what I do seriously. If you don't like it, quit. Nothing of value will be lost. And Misanthropy knows that Woot is from Central America. Thinking of reversing your not vandalism now? --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 23:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually the only thing I've learnt from this whole debacle is this Central American thing. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 23:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh also vandalism. May as well. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
You are voting Vandalism because he made an A/M case? So, you are basically saying that it is bad faith to try to hold the sysops accountable and in this case, object to racism? Congratulations, you are the worst Sysop ever. And I know a thing about bad sysops.--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 23:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
I think I'm gonna stop buying the paper, this is far more entertaining. Strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others 23:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

3 cases isn't properly spamming A/M, Iscariot's far better at it. If Sonny isn't happy with a ruling let him challenge it. Not Vandalism. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

That's the thing. It isn't ruled on. Only two sysops have voted and the case isn't closed. He's jumping the gun in massive proportions just to have his way. -- 03:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh, this is new. So, the actions of one or two sysops don't matter if the others over ride it? So you could ban users and as long as the other ops vote against it or correct it it's not misconduct on your part. I see...--Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 23:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Vandalism Oh, and ddr? It's not afraid to come here so much as I really hate the clique, best-bud bullshit just about every single op is pulling lately. Oh, and the fact that you're being a power-badging cunt still.--Big Cat 02:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

You know, if you stopped playing 'the little guy' act you'd probably find that your perspective of how I behave is actually nothing of what you say. You'd probably find the same conclusion if you actually spend time here other than when drama strikes. -- 08:06, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah fuck I can't be arsed with dealing with your e-peen spewing. Wrote a metric fuck-tonne with links, proof, fancy words, the works! Then remembered you and your tendency to ignore everything and go ego-defensive one-liner mode. So a shortened version:
A) YOU begged me to come back last November, and since then multiple users have come to me and asked me to come back and check in, whether it was to review cases, projects, fix the shit the ops team is causing in general, or just come back and help out.
B) You consistently act like a cunt whenever my name comes up or I do ANYTHING but follow your little flute (and quite a few times, you've used that little badge of power against me and other users in the process), or when anyone even slightly pisses you off. Look at the Nezhaulcoyotl II case. Look at the irc logs of you saying how you were going to demote CB the moment his A/RE came, even if the community disagreed. Look at you sharing his private info with the wiki. Look at how you treated EVERYONE involved with the text links not counting as used for images discussion on your talk page (WHAT THE HELL?!?!? is the header you're looking for). Look at you being a bully towards me defending my own case. Not to mention you being a dick in general. Again. That's not even all of the list I made. 'Tis but a small sample. I could get out the irc logs, msn logs, google wave logs (unless those got deleted from inactivity. I haven't been on wave since before new years), hell, even myspace had some examples of you plotting and being a dick towards users on here.
What ddr's reaction will probably amount to: no uve changed sa im still the same you just cant accept the fact that things have changed here with you but not in the way you want and youre wrong about me im not a dick you just think i am cuz u changed
In short: DDR, please piss off and retire already.--Big Cat 11:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I begged you to come back and found a user who had no interest in actually helping out the community (to the point of making the deliberate wrong rulings in A/VB cases "for the lulz", something only hagnat had done before you) and as such I argued against your behaviour. Talking about apparent bullying and vendettas, you've found yourself ruling the opposite to me (and actualy citing my ruling as either an influence, a critiquing point or the actual reason you ruled against it) since new years now I believe... And, oh yes, in relation to Cyberbob, I believe (Want the logs too?) it was you who initiated the idea that if you made it into crat position by the time Bob was there you would tinker with the idea of demoting him regardless of popular opinion. I was happy to demote Bob if the situation asked the task and the choice was in my hands rather than both me and boxy's, but it never came to that so I happily kept him. Regardless, it is you who has become more of what you hated (come once a month, have a love-in with the drama and leave) than I have, so don't come crying to me.
And yes, I will happily resign when my term ends, and before you materialise any thoughts of accomplishment or grandeur it has nothing to do with you or the annoying mosquitoes you've become so much like. -- 11:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
But meh, whatever. After looking at your recent string of edits on RC it looks like you didn't approve of me saying you were afraid of coming here. Obviously I didn't mean it in a literal sense and my displeasure, whilst directed at you, was more of an umbrella hatred towards being one of the only 3 active ops (now CB has gone) on udwiki. Look at A/M for fucks sake, the cases can't physically be ruled on at this current state. It's a joke. I just want more ops who take the job seriously. And that is where I first had my problems with you recently. -- 11:54, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I'd love the logs, if the offer is still on the table. Talk page or email, whatever's easier. Cyberbob  Talk  14:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Apparently you drink too much DDR? Because now, it looks like you're conveniently forgetting the MSN and IRC conversations where you've said these, and it looks like you're pretty much going "no u", without the usual insults. It's more polite, but the fake sophistication isn't needed.
It was right before I came back, because you and CB were usually "butting heads in A/VB, waiting for boxy to come and rule and show who was right". Remember that? His behavior "degraded" to where he was the "low point on the scale of being an 'op". His degradation was while I was gone, so I had no idea what was going on until you came to me (by the way, I took the liberty of making your quotes a bit more coherent. You know how it can be in chats, what with us improperly spelling and not caring about basic grammar. Hope you don't mind :3) and asked me to come back because everyone else wasn't doing shit and you were tired of the 1v1 matches the place was turning into.
Two cases where I made the "wrong ruling", which is hilarious because you've made the wrong ruling your self on some cases since I came back. Oh, wait, rulings are based on what a sysop thinks aren't they? Oh shit, that would mean that there is no inherent right or wrong ruling, especially combined with the rule that p much says we can do what we want! D: But yeah, two cases, in both said user was boned no matter what I ruled. "He's boned in this case anyway right? It's not like it matters. :) -- SA 19:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)". Since then I haven't done anything like that, and every case that wasn't entirely serious was Red Rum and I having fun, and we didn't ask anyone to bring it here.
I told you from the start I was trying to stay away from here, and that I didn't want to come back, yet you asked me to come back anyway, due to lack of sysops. I had a little fun here and there when my fun would not overly affect anything.
I ruled on ONE case using you as my reasoning, because at one point, you decided that arbies rulings can't really do shit and we should let users go forum shopping, mind you, the case I was using as a reference was this one. And so what? We're system operators of a wiki. We're SUPPOSED to use each other as references, and use each others past rulings as precedence. So the whole "no ur the one being vendetta-y" is kind of bullshit. Please try another tactic.
"Regardless, it is you who has become more of what you hated (come once a month, have a love-in with the drama and leave) than I have, so don't come crying to me."
That has fuck all to do with this situation, as I never called you out on any counts of inactivity. I just love how you're fishing for things to make me look bad. Like the little "And yes, I will happily resign when my term ends, and before you materialise any thoughts of accomplishment or grandeur it has nothing to do with you or the annoying mosquitoes you've become so much like. --DanceDanceRevolution (ask/talk) 11:20, 14 March 2010 (UTC) " comment. Pretty sure it was established awhile ago that you were leaving because you wanted a break, not because of us little mosquitoes biting the shit out of you. But again, making me out to be oh so bad, amirite?
*Prepares for DDR and his tendency to fight for the last word*
Oh, and CB? I'll have the logs for you as soon as I can. I forgot that I'm on a new pc (bought so I can splurge on DoW2 on ultra and play Shattered Horizon at max. 'Tis wonderful! :B) and gave the old one to my little brother. So I gotsa to get the hard drive contents to send them to you. If I don't have them by the end of the week, I've probably just forgotten and need a nudge. :| --Big Cat 19:16, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
inb4angerywallsotext--Big Cat 19:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Jesus F*cking Christ, SA...--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 20:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Oooookay. I read less than 10% of that (skipping through and laughing at how much of it is absurd) and I have no intention of attempting a reply. Everything about Bob is true. I spend most of my time on this wiki hating what he does, I didn't think that was so subtle, and if you ever thought what I say on MSN and IRC is as serious as what I say here then you're the deluded one, as you behave in the exact same manor. But I never lied about what you instigated too, and the fact that you had to look through a year of IRC and MSN logs proves you are taking this much too seriously. Fuck me, SA. If you actually spent this much effort doing work on the wiki I wouldn't have a problem with you :/
Either way, if you wanted me to admit I'm wrong, then you haven't got you're wish, but if you wanted me to leave the argument, you won, with the biggest wall of text since this doozey.
Now (this may be a little hard for you, right?) We have 3 misconduct cases. We have 6 A/VB cases. We have 8 items in A/SD. I have uni, and you're sitting in your arse drowning us in your tears. DO SOME FUCKING WORK -- 21:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
You're in Uni? How's getting that degree in mental retardation working out for you? Man, I haven't seen someone believe he's so right when he's wrong since Grim. You don't feel the need to give a proper reply to SA, yet you continue to harass in a way that's so arrogant it's almost sick. But hey, why try to have an adult discussion when you can play Mister Big. Do everyone else a favor, and go in demotion early. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 21:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Involved party say what? -- 21:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm glad to see those classes paid off. You almost had me convinced that you were bored mentally retarded and not chose to live that way. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 23:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
to the point of making the deliberate wrong rulings in A/VB cases "for the lulz", something only hagnat had done before you - now i know what was pulling me into udwiki... it wasnt simple boredom, but someone using my name in vain again. When did i ruled on a case wrongly for the lulz ? I used to take my job as a sysop really seriously, only acting for the lulz when no sysop action was involved or it was a clearly closed and ruled case. --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 23:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm always surprised when DDR makes some reference to past events on the wiki how often he gets almost every detail wrong. J3D was the one that made decisions for the lulz that eventually led to his demoting over Check user abuse. Hagnut just made BAD decisions with a straight face. Why the fuck do you people keep DDR in power on here? --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 03:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Shit, I've been trying to get people to get rid of him for a long time. But this wiki is so fucked up there's no way to repair it. Promotions and demotions aren't votes so it means the same group of sysops get to keep themselves in power. It's one big Gay Train headed for Sodomy and Fellatio. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 04:29, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
J3D was never a sysop in my mind, I wasn't around when he was here and as such I don't refer to the shit he did very often. Hagnat used to rule for the lolz, and you're all retards if you can't remember (for example, hagnat even admits its joking and SA is even there to tell him off about it). Oh how times have changed. -- 07:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I remembered, which is why I didn't defend hagnat when you made that comment. I don't think that makes everyone retarded, just not all of us comb through old logs. I guess we should stop taking this so serious, eh? 'Cause you know, apparently I'm looking through year old logs instead of the ones in the past 4 months for your new behavior, and 1 month for an old behavior comparison.
"Now (this may be a little hard for you, right?) We have 3 misconduct cases. We have 6 A/VB cases. We have 8 items in A/SD. I have uni, and you're sitting in your arse drowning us in your tears. DO SOME FUCKING WORK --DanceDanceRevolution (ask/talk) 21:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)"
If you'd been paying attention, I just solved one misconduct case, showed you circle jerking fuckstacks how it should be done when it comes to ruling on racism related cases, I have work, and then later this year, going back to uni myself to finish my degrees, oh and I'm trying to think of an entirely spectacular way to end all this bullshit on the admin page that's related to the racism cries. But yes, tell us some more about how you're life is so busy, you know?
And to top it off, there are 5 A/VB cases, as I see it now, three racism related ones, which I've been working on (oh, but that doesn't count does it, amirite?) and two that should have been done the moment Mis ruled on them, being as straight-forward as they were. And only one A/SD that I saw (because, you know, I'm kind of used to you and CB always getting to the SD and Ds before I have a chance, so I don't check that very often. Guess I have to now, right?).--Big Cat 10:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
And last, but not least "and if you ever thought what I say on MSN and IRC is as serious as what I say here", that right there should show you're full of shit. Of course what you say in private is supposed to be taken more serious then what you say in the open. You're not worried about the people you're talking about hearing you, so you can be truthful about how you feel. And with the number of people you have vehemently insulted via these mediums, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say you weren't lying.
But please "qq", as you would say, some more about how I don't do jack shit (at least when I do my job, I'm not being biased about it, right? I managed to get over that before I came back. Your turn now.), and how you "have no intention of attempting a reply." when you're still attempting them. And failing.--Big Cat 10:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah, you actually did the deeds I requested. I was wrong about you. Despite your frothing, I no longer have an issue with you at this point and am happy to see that I got through. -- 11:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
And yes, I still absolutely disagree with about everything you said, but, meh. -- 11:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
So can you just retire already? --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 12:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
You've waited 11+ months, I'm sure you can wait another 2 weeks. -- 12:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I thought if I tried that whole "acting nice" thing I could get you to do it now. Well I guess acting nice doesn't do shit. --Sonny Corleone DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n 12:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)