User talk:DanceDanceRevolution/archive/2009/Q3

Omg.

A/VB - I'm disappointed, DDR. Really. --Haliman - Talk 03:43, 1 July 2009 (BST)

yeah ddr why cant you ignore pretty much every rule in the book so we can all have a creepy laugh over a GURL ON TEH INTERNET --Cyberbob 03:45, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Yep. --Haliman - Talk 03:46, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Rules are rules. It is obviously humorous, regardless of how serious Moonie claimed. I also warned Moonie via IRC that this would be the outcome. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:48, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Rules are rules, and you warned him on IRC that it would be vandalism... obviously the course of action you would take in response would be to vote Keep on it and wait until someone else brought him to A/VB to openly declare it as such. --Cyberbob 03:58, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Was one hour too much for you, Bob? Everything happens in it's due course, there is no reason why my right to vote should immediately become nullified by my position as a sysop. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:00, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Yes one hour was too much, and your "right to vote" does not extend to turning a blind eye to vandalism. --Cyberbob 04:03, 1 July 2009 (BST)

It's a joke! Even if it technically is Vandalism, who was hurt? --Haliman - Talk 04:05, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Where was this "argument" every other time a humourous suggestion in the main space has been ruled vandalism? --Cyberbob 04:07, 1 July 2009 (BST)

I probably wasn't online when it happened? --Haliman - Talk 04:08, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Why would that stop someone who obviously feels as strongly about this topic as you? --Cyberbob 04:11, 1 July 2009 (BST)

It's not creepy! --d g w 04:11, 1 July 2009 (BST)

lets have a sowrd fite over it!!!!!!!! --Cyberbob 04:14, 1 July 2009 (BST)

*draws her sword* en garde! --d g w 04:19, 1 July 2009 (BST)

I haven't noticed any cases of this before this one is what I'm trying to say. --Haliman - Talk 04:12, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Surely you'd go looking if it matters to you so much? --Cyberbob 04:14, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Yep. But I didn't know I would care that much until just now. --Haliman - Talk 04:16, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Why don't you go make a policy repealing humourous suggestions in the mainspace being vandalism, as well as the elimination of the separate Humourous Suggestions space? I'm sure you care deeply enough to actually get your hands dirty over it. --Cyberbob 04:19, 1 July 2009 (BST)

That comment doesn't even deserve a yep. --Haliman - Talk 04:22, 1 July 2009 (BST)

If you don't care enough to actually go out and do something about it then you shouldn't bother opening your mouth. --Cyberbob 04:26, 1 July 2009 (BST)

I'll say whatever the hell I want. I WILL NOT BE SILENCED! --Haliman - Talk 04:27, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Hey, I'm not complaining - your bleatings are always good for a laugh. I'm just saying. --Cyberbob 04:29, 1 July 2009 (BST)

How can one person unilaterally decide that a well-recieved suggestion is humorous? What guidelines are there for determining that something is humorous? omg wikidrama!! I want to get drunk and vote for Fiffy without being told it's humorous! *sharpens sword moar* --d g w 04:30, 1 July 2009 (BST)

you're dumb. --Cyberbob 04:32, 1 July 2009 (BST)

I'm dumb? You're tryin to kill people's fun. And it's a serious question, even if it seeeeems obvious to you in this case that it's humorous. --d g w 04:41, 1 July 2009 (BST)

How am I killing your fun? You can still have your funny suggestion, just not in the main area. Go to Humorous Suggestions and post it there. --Cyberbob 04:46, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Bob, Done. and DDR: "Also, I'd prefer a "Ban Retards" button which would instantly ban all petty users, and Umbrella employees in the blink of an eye" - Good Thing I'm NOT an Umbrella Employee ^_^ --Haliman - Talk 04:59, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Any pitiful group with Umbrella in it's name is a retarded attempt at copying a legitimate antagonist faction from a well-respected videogame franchise. I don't care how both you two groups refer to each other, but to the outside world you are both Umbrella. Both you and the other Umbrella should be ashamed of yourselves. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:01, 1 July 2009 (BST)

I'm ashamed of the OTHER pitiful Umbrella if that counts for anything. ^_^ --Haliman - Talk 05:04, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Judging a group you have never been into, now that is pitiful. --Thadeous Oakley 10:22, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Your opinion of pitiful does not sway me, Mistergame. Avoiding an arbitration case which you previously accepted, by spurting bits of Dutch is pitiful to me, but I don't run in and whinge about it. If you were the exact same group but called the Parasol Biohazard Containment Service, then perhaps I wouldn't be against your group, however tryhard and irritating it looks (Grand Marshal? General? Please...) But I don't approve of groups taking the name of Umbrella and making it into the own group. Furthermore, when two groups who plagiarised the name go on a massive drama/vandal spree because both the groups were unoriginal enough to make their own group name, then it tips the boat for me. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:30, 1 July 2009 (BST)

I accepted that arbitration as much as a post-order bride accepts her marriage. The case would have gone through without me so a choice, no I hadn't. And be happy about Umbrella. Both groups are well organized, structured, nice wiki and have been or are successful to a good extent. If we would disband UC and UBCS then you can count on one hand how long it would take for a trenchcoater to turn Umbrella into the laughingstock that probably won't even hit the statspage. You can't create a zombie apocalypse without Umbrella turning up sooner or later. At least now its something good. --Thadeous Oakley 11:08, 1 July 2009 (BST)

It's a terrible and embarrassingly unoriginal concept for a group, but as long as we get in there before some noob trenchcoater, it'll be okay is a very poor mentality to have. You had no interest in talking to suicidalangel, as you don't now, so you should have just refused the case and have someone else represent you, it would at leased be the mature, productive thing to do. My talk page has had enough petty junk on it for one day, as you'd notice above, and I have no interest in furthering this argument about the Umbrellas or your arbitration woes. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:13, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Thadeous has a point. The groups are, to some extent, successful, the groups are somewhat calm towards each other now, and the members aren't powertripping troll assholes. We could go about making fun of every group weaker than us, but we don't, because we're not egomaniacs. Just my two-cents. --Haliman - Talk 04:08, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Milla was pretty hot in the first movie. --Brigadier Sergeant Major Field Marshal Paddy Dignam 23:28, 1 July 2009 (BST)

/me sighs. Better sig now? --Haliman - Talk 04:14, 2 July 2009 (BST)

I'll vote no, because it still has the petty message to Cyberbob at the end. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:46, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Same here - for that reason and that I've seen better versions. "General" was alright, "Grand Marshal" was silly (but that might be the anti-WoW talking), and the current one falls in between those two. Maybe just "Haliman - UBCS" or something. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 04:49, 2 July 2009 (BST)

I refuse to change the Yep. Maybe Founder of the UBCS, or UBCS Wiki Editor? --Haliman - Talk 05:10, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Maybe just get rid of the bureaucracy and unnecessary self-titling, if people wanted to find out the founder of the group, they would look at the group page, if they wanted to see the Wiki Editor, they would check the history. Putting it in your signature appeals to them, but the other 96% of the wiki probably find the titling a little redundant. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:14, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Well, good point. But just "Haliman" sounds too dull.. Any ideas what I should put with it? --Haliman - Talk 05:18, 2 July 2009 (BST)

If your name is boring, maybe try jazz up the formatting, I guess. When I'm bored with my sig I just change the formatting to a dif style/colour. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:20, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Hmm... Maybe. I like my format tho D: --Haliman - Talk 05:25, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Colour? Variety is the spice of life! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:27, 2 July 2009 (BST)

One sec. :) --Haliman - Talk 05:29, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Well, green pops out, but idk. --Haliman - Talk 05:36, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Instead of "Green", use "DarkOliveGreen". D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:39, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Or even "SeaGreen". D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:40, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Now it seems too old and crusty... And I swear if ANY of my guys make a comment... --Haliman - Talk 05:47, 2 July 2009 (BST)

I guess. I saw you try black, that was alright. When in doubt, go black. The other ones previously, like blue and stuff, were good, I just didn't like green. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:49, 2 July 2009 (BST)

I didn't try black. I tried the non-existent OliveGreen, so it reverted to back. I tried blue, steelblue, and slateblue. But meh. Idk. --Haliman - Talk 05:51, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Hali, that sig looks like you. Old and lame. Die in a fire. loljk <3 --Skouth 05:52, 2 July 2009 (BST)

MidnightBlue? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:53, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Maybe make your sig text black or a dark colour and try lighter backgrounds. :P --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 05:55, 2 July 2009 (BST)

I like this one alot. Agreed? --Haliman - Talk 07:38, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Still hate the self titling and now its twice as long as before. But at leased you used Midnightblue. That's good enough for me. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:48, 2 July 2009 (BST)

Template help

How do you format a template so it will show up on a page if you only put Template:Suchandsuch? --Imthatguy 16:04, 3 July 2009 (BST)

Ah, see if you want to put a page up as a template (for example, that page in your userspace, you do {{User:XXXXXX/Page}}. That way it just uses the page as a source instead of searching in the Template: namespace. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:07, 3 July 2009 (BST)

	Anti-Bureaucracy
	This user hates bureaucracy and encourages wiki-revolution!

DONT FORGET SUPPORT THE WIKIREVOLUTION!!!!!!! DOWN WITH THE CRATS!!!!!!!!!!!--Imthatguy 05:11, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Awrr - Don't kill civility!

Oh buddy I can't believe you just voted against my civility article. You know you loves it, and the "Text-rape rules!" crowd hardly needs your support. Come baby change your vote. STRONG VARCH!--_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 19:28, 6 July 2009 (BST)

Aww. Look, I do love it, but the against votes were just too right. Cmon, surely you know another buddy who can push that article over 50%... D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:37, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Yarp. I could probably round up some support from my groups. Oh well. I'll just crawl over to them with this knife in my back. Love, --_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 05:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

hope you enjoy the sight of me striking votes due to meatpuppetry --Cyberbob 05:19, 7 July 2009 (BST)

What is this "meatpuppetry" you speak of? --_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 05:32, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Do you really not know or are you being cute? --Cyberbob 05:34, 7 July 2009 (BST)

I really don't know how you mean it in this context. I would think of meatpuppetry as being using alts or something to vote. --_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 05:36, 7 July 2009 (BST)

That's sockpuppetry. Linkthewindow Talk 05:37, 7 July 2009 (BST)

No Giles, you are the puppets. (Meatpuppetry is like sockpuppetry, except they're actually different people. Like that Fiffy lazer beem eyes suggestion.) --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 05:40, 7 July 2009 (BST)

This too. Linkthewindow Talk 05:45, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Of course. Under sockpuppetry in the wiki, we find a subsection for meat puppet: "Editors of the online encyclopedia Wikipedia use "meat puppet" to deprecate contributions from a new community member if the new member was (apparently) recruited by an existing member only to back up the recruiting member's position." Of course I wouldn't stoop to that. A couple of members of CAPD and the SWA do already actively maintain wiki accounts and contribute to the wiki. I'm not above shooting them a link to the voting on our forums and asking them to make up their own minds. That certainly isn't meatpuppetry, yeh? --_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 05:42, 7 July 2009 (BST)

It is, but only slightly. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 05:43, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Whether it's slightly or strongly meatpuppetry is irrelevant. --Cyberbob 05:44, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Isnt that what the democrats and republicans do every election? I also demand proof that he is meatpuppeting or im putting cyberbob up for misconduct--Imthatguy 05:48, 7 July 2009 (BST)

you're precious --Cyberbob 05:50, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Firstly, real life =/= UDwiki.

Secondly, you're an idiot. Misconduct is for abuse of sysop powers (not just regular editing,) and Bob never accused Giles of anything. He warned him against meatpuppeting. Linkthewindow Talk 05:51, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Apart from anything else, Giles, meatpupeting is hella lame. It's a fucking guide, FFS. Some people don't think it deserves to be a reviewed one, and voted that way. Deal with it, instead of fucking over the wiki by getting your mates, who wouldn't have otherwise voted, to force it through simply to stroke your own ego -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 21:50 7 July 2009 (BST)

but some people have self-esteem issues and need this kind of internet glory or they get all emo and everyone dislikes emos --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 21:53, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Votes unstruck. There is nothing in the rules that permits anyone from removing anyones votes unless they are made by sock puppets. Until such time as there is something that allows it, kindly piss off. - Grim s

I have no idea why you guys are so apeshit over such a minor, petty vote, when there have been plenty over other more seriousness meatpuppeting issues that have even been let through. I thought it was decided there would be no meatpuppet striking, especially for such a little thing like this. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 22:47, 7 July 2009 (BST)

So i cant vote? please ciberbob... i think you cant vote for me ...and if i want to vote i can vote no?..so meat pupeting is because i am on CAPD¨?no?..watch my Sig please i am a MPD member too...and there i used to teach new player to read that guide...why? because need to remember is a game but still we can have respect for others...So say what you want but my vote is my vote..have respect for me...i respect you..--(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 23:13, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Hey, I struck your vote too! What about me? What about MY NEEDS?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

I dont care if you or bob have problem with my vote...so for what is a vote if i cant vote what i want? and a admin crossed my vote? what the is the dead?--(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 23:33, 7 July 2009 (BST)

U have special needs?--Thadeous Oakley 23:18, 7 July 2009 (BST)

His momma always said he was special so, of course, he has special needs! --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 23:29, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Apparently, this is important enough for people to make sockpuppets. User:lolwat64 --Thadeous Oakley 23:18, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Or it could quite easily be a meat puppet, which is entirely allowed.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:23, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Indeed, perhaps you should do an IP check? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:31, 7 July 2009 (BST)

It doesn't match any current user. What do you know? Maybe it isn't a sock puppet!--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:33, 7 July 2009 (BST)

OMG! Colour me shocked and amazed! --AHLG 23:34, 7 July 2009 (BST)

D'okay!--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:41, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Did this really need to happen, especialy on someones talkpage who wasen't really involved? --

^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:38, 7 July 2009 (BST)

U herd of proxies rite? Honestly, whatever puppet it is, it obviously is a puppet. Can't say the same about Alvaro and Michelson.--Thadeous Oakley 23:42, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Yeah, in all likeliness it's not just some random user who happened along. ;/ -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:44, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Defying the odds.--Thadeous Oakley 23:47, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Wow, you're still pushing that tired old line of "durfahurf look at me not knowing the difference between meatpuppetry and sockpuppetry"? Fucking hell you're stupid. --Cyberbob 01:51, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Thas no SHOCKED enough! Colour me! COLOUR ME!! @Michaleson we do this all the time.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:44, 7 July 2009 (BST)

WHAT FONTS SHOULD I USE D00D?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:52, 7 July 2009 (BST)

ALL OF THEM!! AARRRGG! -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:53, 7 July 2009 (BST)

But, but, that will take too long...--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:54, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Ahhhhhhh..... wimp -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 23:55, 7 July 2009 (BST)

I shamefully admit it. ;_; --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:57, 7 July 2009 (BST)

I want to edit this thread too :~ --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 23:37, 7 July 2009 (BST)

You have problem of others opinions? all this for a vote? next time i not vote anything guys...that is the idea of a wikipedia?so what is the deal if civility recive the votes? the word explode?--(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 23:50, 7 July 2009 (BST)

It's all good, thank you alvaro for voting your mind. It sucks that such drama would unfold as a result of that. For any interested parties, I've defended my actions on User_talk:Cyberbob240#Garr_Knock_it_off. With this, the matter is resolved for me, regardless of how the vote goes. In the end, the fact that 22 people have registered their opinion of civility is quite positive. I hope to someday have a better understanding of the confounding and frustrating maze of unwritten rules and precedents that surface on the wiki from time to time. --_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 00:30, 8 July 2009 (BST)

yes...subverting democracy is a pretty hard thing to get a handle on i agree --Cyberbob 01:28, 8 July 2009 (BST)

What? Advising us to read something we are interested in, so we could vote if we agree, is subverting democracy? That is idiotic. Giles did nothing wrong. --Sophie ^{◆◆◆ CAPD} 01:42, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Firstly, as if there was ever a chance of you voting no. Secondly, yes it is wrong. --Cyberbob 01:49, 8 July 2009 (BST)

*Cough* Yet another reason why most voting on this wiki is retarded. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 01:51, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Are we suddenly Wikipedia? Because I'm pretty sure we're only based on the software for the most part. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 01:53, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Ah yes wikipedia... always a reliable rallying point when things are looking bleak for your side. Too bad we're wiki.urbandead.com, not en.wikipedia.org. --Cyberbob 01:56, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Too bad, I've always been a supporter of changing the voting system to a consensus based one. I think you are misunderstanding me, I am never citing that as our policy.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 01:57, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Consensus voting might work for wikipedia but here it would literally be the devil. Sorry. --Cyberbob 02:00, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Nah, except suggestions which work fine as is, attempts at discussion to get something done work, people are just lazy. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 02:01, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Urban Dead IRC Channels

care to protect this page while i file an arbies ? content must be rolled back to what it looked like before suicidal's edit, but j3d's edit is better --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 15:02, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Yes. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:04, 8 July 2009 (BST)

thank you. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 15:11, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Signature not working

Hey im dearly sorry to bother you with this.But i made a signature and edited it to my User:Suffery/sig as im supposed to.. If you have any free time could you help me with this? thanks--Suffery 09:53, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Of course. I'll reply the necessary steps onto your talk page. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:09, 11 July 2009 (BST)

== Your Sig ==--x o x o 16:10, 11 July 2009 (BST)

The timestamp starts on a new line, which makes the page a bit longer, and less visually attractive. I'll try and find a fix now (and post back here if I do,) so here's you're notification :P. It's probably just a rouge line break.

(User_talk:WanYao - example.) Linkthewindow Talk 16:06, 11 July 2009 (BST)

That didn't fix it. Since it's not a wiki-breaking issue, I'll leave it up to you to revert back to the last working version or not. Linkthewindow Talk 16:09, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Yeha stop fucking our wiki up yuo retard i'm sick of your shit.--x o x o 16:10, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Yeah I copied and pasted new + old code together without giving it any checkthrough. Noticed just before I hopped into bed. I'll fix now. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:11, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Rev got it. Linkthewindow Talk 16:12, 11 July 2009 (BST)

the halftime air was sweet perfume? NO.--x o x o 16:19, 11 July 2009 (BST)

That didnt work lol..heres my sig now --{{SUBST:Nosubst|User:Suffery/sig}} 19:55, 11 July 2009 (BST)

yea i unchecked it.--{{SUBST:Nosubst|User:Suffery/sig}} 02:54, 12 July 2009 (BST)

It worked on your talk page a couple of minutes ago -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:59 12 July 2009 (BST)

I closed the <font> tags and got rid of the redundant noinclude tags, it should work fine now. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 04:17, 12 July 2009 (BST)

Thanks i owe you one lol. i love my new sig--Suff -TMS- <-- Killin' zombies! 05:32, 12 July 2009 (BST)

Signature

I finally broke down and jacked some of the code from your epically setup sig to create a new, revised one for myself. I hope my selfish act of wiki-code-stealing swells your pride. :D -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 03:49, 13 July 2009 (BST)

Thanks, I like it. It's a worthy fraud :D D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:49, 13 July 2009 (BST)

Archiving

I've been archiving a few suburb News posts, and I've arrived at a conundrum. I've archived the whole month of June for most suburbs, but not deleted posts under a month old. Is this correct? Or should I be deleting the whole month?--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 17:56, 14 July 2009 (BST)

While we're at it, what do I do if the last post on a page is more than a month old? Do I leave it, or put some snazzy line saying "There is no recent news for this suburb. Go to the archive, indicated here." --Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:00, 14 July 2009 (BST)

There isn't a rule of thumb, but for the first problem, generally you just archive the whole month regardless of whether it's over a month old or not. Especially at this time of month, where it usually doesn't matter. For the second problem, just get rid of all the old news and add that notice, probably saying There is no recent news for this suburb. News older than 1st July 2009 can be found in the archive. The given month in a notice like this won't need an update because anyone who adds to the news will delete it anyway, but otherwise people will know just when the last news post was. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 18:07, 14 July 2009 (BST)

And while you're here, thanks, I like users who dedicate themselves to under-maintained tasks in the wiki. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 18:08, 14 July 2009 (BST)

Actually, I don't know why I did it. It's like some weird force came over me. Anyway, as I'm nearly done, I'll come back to the pages where June remains, and I'll take it away, but for now I'll stop. I might end up doing it tomorrow.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 18:10, 14 July 2009 (BST)

Good luck. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 18:12, 14 July 2009 (BST)

Alright, I've done it now. June has been cleansed from the wiki.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:07, 22 July 2009 (BST)

Good job. Mass editing tasks always cleanse the soul, don't they? --ϑϑℜ 12:12, 22 July 2009 (BST)

They do indeed.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 12:13, 22 July 2009 (BST)

Hey

Thanks for the welcome back - I don't know how long I'm going to be back, but being on the outside of the drama looking in makes it a whole lot easier to stomach and get back to work. It's good to see people step up and put in some effort on the wiki. I like your status stuff in your sig - nice coding. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 18:42, 14 July 2009 (BST)

I miss Amazing. --Darth Sensitive

^W! 18:50, 14 July 2009 (BST)

Thanks anyway

I'm basically leaving UD and the wiki for an undetermined period of time. ;) Ciao --Janus ^talk 19:13, 15 July 2009 (BST)

Good luck IRL Janus! D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:27, 16 July 2009 (BST)

Ditto here. You're one of the few people that I've seriously thought about nominating for sysop. Linkthewindow Talk 12:59, 16 July 2009 (BST)

Aww, thanks! ;) --ϑϑℜ 13:00, 16 July 2009 (BST)

I meant Janus :P Linkthewindow Talk 13:07, 16 July 2009 (BST)

;_; --ϑϑℜ 13:07, 16 July 2009 (BST)

You're already a sysop anyways, dork! -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 03:49, 19 July 2009 (BST)

But thats nothing if no one had always considered putting me up!!! :'( --ϑϑℜ 03:51, 19 July 2009 (BST)

DDR hai!!Aw

Hai! =-D

I descnided sonce im driunk to dome says hi to folk. So hai! -- C h e e s e 03:23, 19 July 2009 (BST)

Hello, friend! --ϑϑℜ 03:24, 19 July 2009 (BST)

<3 Yay.! You saud Hi back! =D 00 C h e e s e 03:26, 19 July 2009 (BST)

fake demotion summary

this joke was funny in the beginning. It aint no more. Stop it. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 15:38, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Oh shut up. Most people deal with being fooled by chuckling about it and having a friendly joke with the user who did it. How about instead of eyeballing RC you get back to 'fixing' your bastardised version of User:Amazing. --ϑϑℜ 15:43, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Lol. -- C h e e s e 15:49, 20 July 2009 (BST)

like i said, it was funny... but you are so overusing it that it aint anymore. And Amazing's thing requires a lil more attention and though... its not something ima gonna do at work in between builds and compilings. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 15:54, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Then perhaps you should have considered leaving it in its useful and historically relevant state while you messed around with this 'improved' version in a sandbox. --ϑϑℜ 15:58, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Historical use of Historical

History was made today when a historically large amount of history was revised so that future history for this historical idea will be different. As future history was changed in one way, and pending this historical votes passing, in another, the word "historical" itself and all of it's other tenses and uses were used a historical number of times. When historical members of the community were asked to comment on this historical day, a historical number of them didn't care at all. For this quasi -historical figure, I would just like to say I can't wait until this day and these writings are historical.--SirArgo ^Talk 18:33, 20 July 2009 (BST)

What the hell? :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:38, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Lol. It does make sense, kinda. I have translated it!--SirArgo ^Talk 03:39, 21 July 2009 (BST)

Nah, it did make sense. I loved it. --ϑϑℜ 03:41, 21 July 2009 (BST)

Support our siggy!!!

DDR, support the mudkip TOOOOOO!!!!

Quick Question

Can anything be done about This? I find it amusing, because the fellow who created it is long gone, and I've been a PKer for awhile. I'm just curious if it could be deleted or some such. It's not really fun when someone searches my username and comes up with that farce. Thanks for anything. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 22:18, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Actually, yes it can be deleted. It's one of those one-off groups that don't go anywhere. Not to mention that it was an almost entire copy of the old kill Deus page, which has since changed. And not to mention that pudge was a griefer that the Demons (who Kill Deus was playing against, and in a good manner, at the time) nor the members of Deus liked him (if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure about the Deus's, but I was a Demon at the time, so I know we didn't like him). It could easily be put up for deletions, hell, if you put it on SD as a crit one, I'd delete it myself. They even use the same image that Kill deus used, and the one they use on their template Template:Kill_Deus257.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 22:39, 20 July 2009 (BST)

I've put it up for A/SD, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were sent to A/D, or even just rejected outright. Still, it could always be moved to a subpage of the user's namespace. We'll see how it goes. --ϑϑℜ 03:30, 21 July 2009 (BST)

Many thanks gentlemen. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 04:47, 21 July 2009 (BST)

I'll leave this link alone. --Cyberbob 11:43, 21 July 2009 (BST)

Borehamwood

Why you revert your last edit? --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 13:55, 22 July 2009 (BST)

I don't know, I get in those moods some times. I just don't think my last comments really needed to be said. --ϑϑℜ 13:56, 22 July 2009 (BST)

It was entirely true. I'd say 70-80 percent of the survivors who are left spawned in a 20x20 area. The area was sufficiently underpopulated that we knew most survivors and zombies by name, and with GNR's help had an effective communication net up almost immediately. Smaller was better. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 16:08, 22 July 2009 (BST)

Perhaps... I might re-add it later on with a more coherent explanation and more decent points, in the morning. --ϑϑℜ 16:37, 22 July 2009 (BST)

My Story

Hey, thanks for telling me about the page being deleted... I was actually about to paste my story in there (didn't have time this past week). Would I make the page with user first? as in User:Jobava/Story?--Jobava 16:09, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Yes. --Cyberbob 16:03, 23 July 2009 (BST)

also how do I edit my signature? --Jobava 16:09, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Here is a pretty awesome article that has everything you need to know about signatures. Help:Signatures--_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 16:39, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Re:Phone

Thanks. :) I was going to use it as my userpage, but I kinda gave up on that as I don't think it's possible to make the buttons clickable objects. - User:Whitehouse 18:28, 23 July 2009 (BST)

IRC question

Why is the IRC channel set to +m? People who come in and aren't +v can't talk when the channel is +m. --User:Axe27/Sig 20:43, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Because DDR is stoopid.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 20:44, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Do you mean #udwiki? Because #urbandeadwiki hasn't had +m set for a few days now. --Cyberbob 20:46, 23 July 2009 (BST)

No, I mean #urbandeadwiki. Boberton came into channel without +v and was unable to speak. --User:Axe27/Sig 20:49, 23 July 2009 (BST)

I just looked then and there's no +m set... strange. --Cyberbob 20:51, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Never mind, Cyberbob was right. Boberton was unable to speak because he didn't know he was able to speak. : D--User:Axe27/Sig 20:54, 23 July 2009 (BST)

lol --Cyberbob 20:55, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Wait, I was on IRC? I didn't even notice... --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 20:55, 23 July 2009 (BST)

It were me. Don't worry Boberton. --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!} 21:03, 23 July 2009 (BST)

Status

Dude-ism. It'd be great if you could help me with a status template for me. :) It'd be used for the end of my sig. The "Current BICotry part". --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!} 20:57, 23 July 2009 (BST)

K. --ϑϑℜ 02:28, 24 July 2009 (BST)

Thanks, I think I get how it works n'all. Just one thing; What is Nosubst? --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}19:19, 24 July 2009 (BST)

My signature is SUBST, so it pastes the code down onto the page manually every time I use it, whereas the {{SUBST:Nosubst|User:XXXX/sig}} means that it throws the template on the page instead. It's better for longer sigs. --ϑϑℜ 02:03, 25 July 2009 (BST)

The mysteriously disappearing page

I recently made a deletion request deletion request that was on course to pass. And then it got deleted. Before the 2 week deadline, and no one has owned up to it or said they deleted it. Because this is a misconductable action, I'll leave it your discretion, but please wag the finger at whoever deleted the page before the 2 weeks. --User:Axe27/Sig 16:57, 28 July 2009 (BST)

The deletion log reveals all. Cheese probably just forgot to move it afterwards. --

Rooster Dragon

17:22, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Cheese did it, but he preceded the 2 week deadline by 3 hours. --ϑϑℜ 01:28, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I would say this is likely a case of timezone differences rather than any kind of HOLY FUCKING SHIT MISCONDUCT WAG UR FINGER --Cyberbob 01:47, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I got a/vb'd for time zone confusion. :/--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:40, 29 July 2009 (BST)

It was pretty obviously a deliberate action, done to make sure your action got through early, and thus your hegemony. But let's assume for a minute that there was no wilful, malicious intent here -- we'll stretch the limits of our credulity, to point of bursting, just for argument's sake... Well, even in that case, you're clearly incompetent and untrustworthy. Enough is fucking enough. --Cyberbob 04:42, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I hate you too cb. ^^--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:47, 29 July 2009 (BST)

How long have you been on the wiki, SA? You've been a sysop before. You claim you know the rules, etc. etc. Why do you keep doing these things when you really ought to know better? Stop making excuses. Seriously. --Cyberbob 04:55, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Once more you turn it into a personal attack, scoffing off legitimate criticism as trying to "score drama points". I see, finally, how hopeless it is to expect you to take responsibility for your actions and to act even a little like an adult. Feh. --ϑϑℜ 05:04, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Oooooooooooh, ad hominems! I'm so impressed!--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:07, 29 July 2009 (BST)

This isn't your personal fiefdom, ~~cyberbob~~ sa. Stop acting like it is. --ϑϑℜ 05:08, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Strawman. --Cyberbob 05:09, 29 July 2009 (BST)

What the hell are you talking about now???--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:10, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Oh SA you're so droll. Now, someday, maybe you'll pay less attention to being such a wag, and more attention to not making stupid "mistake" after stupid "mistake"... Then we won't have to listen to more of your repeated "apologies" or hollow promises that such things won't happen again, either. --Cyberbob 05:12, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I am honestly sorry, but for some things bad faith is not a prerequisite for vandalism. That is one of them. You'll note that I have taken steps to try and ensure that nobody unknowingly does it again in the way I did with the creation of this section. That's the absolute best I can do after the fact.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:22, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Also a very nice way to attempt to sidestep my refutations of DDR's mis-appropriation of what Wan was talking about.... You're damn good at the sleazeball politician thing, SA, damn good, I'll give you that much. --Cyberbob 05:27, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Does "being the bigger man" ring any kind of bell at all? Seriously, you could fight and troll yourself couldn't you?--SirArgo ^Talk 05:31, 29 July 2009 (BST)

You do realise that all of these posts are essentially quoting WanYao? --Cyberbob 05:36, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Or cb and maybe even zl.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:38, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Wow. You guys are that determined to "show me up" that you can't understand how editign while drunk and deleting something early... yet I cycled a suggestion early... you can't comprehend how that isn't the same, you think it's harmless and innocuous and in "good faith"??? Wow. You take the cake, you really do. How's that job at the Ministry of Truth pay, anyway?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:35, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Yeah I know that's pretty harsh... But, you may not believe this... but even when I go one a histrionics binge, I can most always step back and admit when I am wrong... and/or back off, let things cool down and give a person a deserved "second chance". The fact that you don't get any such consideration shows how completely reproachable and over-the-top I consider your behavior to be. You blew it, man, big time. --Cyberbob 05:40, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I know I screwed up really badly, but there's literally nothing else I can do apart from work to make sure it never happens again. I think I deserve a second chance - I really do. I know you don't believe me on this one but my motivation in making those cases and whatnot was seriously not in bad faith. That is the honest truth.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:50, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Yes, your right, but that's not enough here. Come back when you have some friends over at the sysops team. --Cyberbob 05:52, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Heh. Once again you fail to mount an argument. Time to hide behind your insults and your little clique. You're getting far too predictable :) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 05:59, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I'll just rehash some points to you. 1. I am not a petty schmuck and don't behave as such 99% of the time, unless dealing with the most petty of users such as yourself. 2. My intelligence is so irrelevant to any of this because the fact is that I have at leased some sort of knowledge and experience on wikis that you obviously don't. And 3. The fact you made that deletion 3 hours early is not only irrelevant, but also proves that you'll always just be another sheep that herds the deletions section. With your attitude and perceptiveness, I suggest you stay there. --Cyberbob 06:08, 29 July 2009 (BST)

HA HA HA. The extent of your delusions is truly amazing. By all means, try to keep your fucktarded ramblings out of my way. I only deal with them perfunctorily, and would gladly not waste any more of my time on them. Up to you.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 06:14, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Q.E.D. --Cyberbob 06:19, 29 July 2009 (BST)

So I guess presenting any opinion that goes against the Status Quo is automatically "Q.E.D.". Convenient.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 06:20, 29 July 2009 (BST)

I live in a country where we use common law, as inhereted from the UK. Which means that the tradition of established precedent rules. And if a judge goes against established precedent his ruling can be -- and routinely is, in such rare cases -- overturned. As for the rest of it... you were being mocked, SA, pure and simple... but your response demonstrates what a self-important prig you are... which was why I was trolling you in the first place, lol --Cyberbob 06:28, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Did you have to attend some sort of special trade school in order to learn how to be this obtuse?--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 06:33, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Just pointing out the obvious. Sorry if it didn't appeal. --Cyberbob 06:42, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Ha ha ha. Seriously, in order to point out something you have to present some kind of evidence, not just make statements and toss around weak insults. Point that out. Heh.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 06:49, 29 July 2009 (BST)

LOL I was just looking for that quote to use... --ϑϑℜ 09:54, 29 July 2009 (BST)

Thanks for ruining 90% of the joke with that heading change. --Cyberbob 07:46, 30 July 2009 (BST)

If you think it that important you can change it back to the original, I actually don't mind. --ϑϑℜ 07:47, 30 July 2009 (BST)

It's not that important, it just kinda feels a bit forced now. --Cyberbob 07:49, 30 July 2009 (BST)

It was over before I changed it. And damn, I almost had you at A/VB ;D --ϑϑℜ 07:51, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Huh? You explicitly gave me your permission; not even the blindest of haters (gonna hate) would try that case on for size. --Cyberbob 07:52, 30 July 2009 (BST)

sigh. was a joke nvm --ϑϑℜ 07:54, 30 July 2009 (BST)

If you're going to nitpick me...

I'll be happy to nitpick you back. In reference to your statement: "I respect it. Unlike Giles, he had the decency to go against, rather than persistently complain and then vouch." I didn't persistently complain and then vouch. In fact, the precise order of my statements was - question, complaint, vouch, complaint.
Your pal,
--_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 21:15, 31 July 2009 (BST)

Exactly. If all you are going to do is criticise him, then why not just go against? If your comment isn't supportive in any way, it doesn't say much for your vouch, and it's obvious you don't want to vouch, and if you do, it's near impossible to tell. You might want to add something decent on besides all the negativity or your vouch is more or less meaningless. --ϑϑℜ 01:51, 1 August 2009 (BST)

And you were hardly nitpicking, as I was hardly nitpicking you in my initial comment, because there is quite a bit that would have to be said about your a/pm vouch in the first place, if one were so inclined. The problems with it are so obvious, though, that there is no reason for me to go into it. Unnecessary arguments aren't in anyone's interests just now. --ϑϑℜ 02:05, 1 August 2009 (BST)

Except for me. I'm bored and an argument would be fun to watch.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:05, 1 August 2009 (BST)

You are admin sa shame on you. --ϑϑℜ 04:23, 1 August 2009 (BST)

I'm really wishing we didn't already wear out the quote joke right now. Cyberbob Talk 04:30, 1 August 2009 (BST)

Yeah...:( Oh well. Battle for Wesnoth, here I come!--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 04:36, 1 August 2009 (BST)

Wesnoth is pretty fresh but I burned out on it. Anyways. I don't see any problem with criticizing someone and still agreeing with them in other areas or seeing merit in their overall performance. Perhaps you interpret honest critique as a slap in the face but I don't and from what I gather SA didn't either. I said in my vote that SA is "honest and fair" and that's why I vouched.
Do you read my posts before you huff and puff or do you just look for one thing to disagree with?
After confronting SA and looking at their contributions, I do feel he/she is coming from a good place in their decision making, and to me that's the most important trait in a crat. But I understand how you could view my vouch as being vague. Is a more glittering bit of praise in order?--_GANG Giles Sednik_CAPD 16:57, 1 August 2009 (BST)

I'd never question DDR. He is a God among Men. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 20:16, 1 August 2009 (BST)

Yes, my fragile female psyche needs to be complimented.-- High Overlord and Lead Conspirator of the Administrative Rebellion. Want help? 23:41, 1 August 2009 (BST)

Don't actlike you don't like it.--x o x o 01:15, 2 August 2009 (BST)