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JISOR/Halfdan and Mekhan/Tarpenz

Assuming these 4 are all ruled vandalism, are their votes in the election all struck? Would remove 2 additional votes from Stelar, leaving them at 23. --ooɹd ǝʌɐɥ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ǝɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞWe're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop usYou rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 07:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

We'd strike only the second (time-wise) of the votes for each candidate; e.g. JISOR's first two votes would remain, but any by Halfdan Pisket would be struck. Same with Mekhan/Tarpenz — Mekhan's votes remain, but Tarpenz's have been struck. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 12:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I corrected the title for clarity. I have not been connected to the other two accounts. -- SomethingSomething.gif 14:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
JISOR’s final vote was made after both of Pisket’s. If a user has two votes, I believe it would make sense for all votes struck after the first two votes by a single user. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:54, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Oh, unless of course that scenario would end in a double vote like you described. Apologies. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Totally right. I didn't realize Halfdan's were timestamped before JISOR's. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Sister Mary

moved from main page

Blanked User talk:Sniper4625 - normally I would give benefit of the doubt, but they seem quite hostile, so I thought I would bring it to your attention. Regards~ Sniper4625 (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I won't need any benefit of doubt, thanks for considering my feelings though. After reading I wanted to have my talk page protected both Sniper and Dragontard came to write on my page - if you don't want any hostile behavior I suggest you fuck off and leave me alone :) I don't even know who the fuck you guys are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:37 June 3 2018.
Oh right. Ban the fuck outta my account if you feel like it Mr. System-Operator-Boss. I have no problem editing some page to get my message across to people who have a hard time getting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 23:38, 3 June 2018 (UTC).
Southpark tearlick.gif--Emot-siren.gif LABIA on the INTERNET Emot-siren.gif Dunell Hills Corpseman The Malton Globetrotters#24 - You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| TMG 00:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Now now, there's no need to be rude and start flinging insults. --Dragonshardz (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Might I inquire why you decided the best choice of action to a harmless greeting was a rule-breaking act of vandalism? Quite rude. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Given talk pages are a pretty important element of regulating user behavior without needing to ban anyone the instant they step out of line, I'm really not sure Sister Mary has any interest in learning or following any of the community norms of the wiki. Swissaboo (talk) 23:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Per their talk page now they apparently have gotten many such pages deleted, which somewhat confuses me. Sniper4625 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding onto this, in their protection request they clearly have no interest in bothering with the proper formatting for responding to other users and on their talk page they have placed the nominated for deleting template without any actual nomination for deletion having occurred. I don't know how much of this is actually against wiki RULES (except perhaps that last one?) but they're very clearly running roughshod over the expected standards of behavior. Swissaboo (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm sure you meant WIKI LAW when you said RULES. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

This was exactly the point of having my talk page protected - the horde/jack/whateverzergs can't seem to leave me alone :) Sister Mary (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

The Jack got run out of town on a rail. Try again. --Dragonshardz (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You never did explain why you thought breaking the rules in a very rude way was the best course of action, and why you thought getting demonstrably mad would make people pay *less* attention to you. Sniper4625 (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
The reason is pretty simple, and I thought you got the message, but okay, I will clarify for you why = I don't like you :) I will eat my warning with pleasure, don't worry about it! But.. this isn't your first time harrassing people, correct? I like that you feel like you have the upperhand over a guy that made 200+ edits within the last 24 hours, and only vandalized a single page of a user that didn't really go about making "a good-faith attempt to improve this wiki" by trying to trigger me by invading my talk page. Im looking forward as to how this will play out. I will just make another account and keep on editing from there so I didn't lose anything catching myself a warning, other than shifting focus to you ugly bunch of motherfuckers :D Sister Mary (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (See, I use my template just like you want to!)
Isn't sockpuppeting to avoid wikipunishments in itself a punishable offense? You just keep digging. Sniper4625 (talk) 01:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I see that you're trying to put words in my mouth - unfortunately thats not going to happen. As stated, I will be let of with a warning so I have no intention, and never have I stated that I would sneak away from any punishment. I think it's great that everyone can see how you guys clearly are trying to engage some sort of drama - otherwise you would have left me alone, like I asked to be. So if you think again, I will ditch this account to prevent people like you from being a harrassment. But regarding the sockpuppet behavior - how do we work out the fact that 3 different people came around at the same time, all with the same purpose, and all with the intention of trying to give me a bad time - did you guys coordinate some sort of drama on my behalf - After asking for my talk page to be isolated from people like you. I think im gonna need your shovel m8, seems like it digs that much faster than mine :) Sister Mary (talk) 02:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC) (Ohhhhh snap.)
Are you back, Jack? Because you're making the same "alts!" argument he did, and he was similarly disproven. I'm not sure how I put words in your mouth when you said "I will just make another account and keep on editing from there," but well, I did appreciate your attempt to sic Aichon on my compatriot. Too bad it failed. Sniper4625 (talk) 02:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
AHHHHHHHH :D I was actually just waiting for someone to pull out the "you're a Yocum" card! Sure dude - let's say im a Jack. I must be a great Jack. I mean, I edited 2 suburbs completely and have been editing the EMRP for 6 months on another account - but sure! YOU GOT ME! :D Im getting the idea that your dick is all so im gonna leave you to play with that! I will be back with another account, to edit another 200+ locations. Meanwhile you guys will have to enjoy yourself being annoying towards someone else! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 02:22, 4 June 2018.

Vandalism and a Warning. Don't blank other's pages. I'll serve the warning officially over at the Sister Mary page, but I assume you'll see it here as well. And yes, warnings carry over between accounts. Aichon 02:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

So...how does the wiki handle a user rage-reverting their own edits? --Dragonshardz (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Rage reverting? I edited 3 locations due to them being wrong :D Aichon you said something about the parties in question should talk, the rest should shut up. If this doesnt qualify as harrassment I don't know what will. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sister Mary (talkcontribs) 03:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC).

Sounds to me like someone is finally bored of this game and is getting one last laugh out of the community by being as much as a cunt as possible on his way out. Either that or it's his time of month and he's out of pads.----RWSig1.png RWSig2.pngFoD PK Praise Rando!06:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" A ZOMBIE ANT 00:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

User: Revenant

Now think about it, I have a very distant memory of a user who used to remove all signatures of everyone else on their talk page as a kind of norm, but I can't remember who it was, or if it actually happened. Might have been Iscariot, maybe even Finis. Does this sound right to anybody? A ZOMBIE ANT 22:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, there was somebody, but fuck if I remember who it was. I think the logic was that if there was no signature, they could do whatever they wanted to the content and it didn’t count as impersonation? ЯЭV⁠€⁠NΛИ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh god, I hope it never went that far. I can't help but feel it was Iscariot just being a bit narky about stuff. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:39, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

User:The Goth Store Owner

*snif* *snif* I smell drama. Is there drama ? OH MA GOSH IS DRAMA!!! --hagnat 21:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The sooner they learn that 90% of this dispute should be on A/Arbitration the sooner I can sleep at night. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Is there a minimum time cases need to stay on the main VB page? Can't this shit just be moved to archives and locked? --KCLZA 21:48, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A/VB is now archived on an annual basis, so it'll be cycled in January 2016. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

So quiet

* shuffles around looking for drama to feed on, finds none *
What happened to this place ? --hagnat 20:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me to drop the DramaLevel. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 21:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Hagnat spamming an administrative talk page was the excuse I needed to fulfill our VB case quota required by Kevan. To the wikicourt with him at once! -- Spiderzed 21:18, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I like where this is going. Step back everyone, I got A/M covered. A ZOMBIE ANT 06:09, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
The fact that the drama level was updated almost prompted me to raise it a level, since that's more drama than we've had in months. Aichon 06:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
DDRs threat to use A/M before there even is a VB verdict alienates me. I will pre-emptively file an arbitration to forbid him from posting on A/M for 5.73 venusian years. -- Spiderzed 20:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Foiled again by the cabal. A ZOMBIE ANT 00:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you can update the DramaLevel to the lesser level of drama. This place is so quiet. --hagnat 16:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Ehh, I'm still a little on alert from the big bot attack last week. Not a true old-school drama, but it qualifies. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems the big bot attack got under controle. Whoever pulled that out, congrats :) --hagnat 17:27, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


Bots Discussion

Return of old, already banned, bots

Over the past couple of days, bots who were previous banned have been spamming again. Has the recent update of the wiki somehow unbanned them? -- boxy 10:35, 27 December 2014 (BST)


Hmm

It's been a few years, but we're getting a wave of bots again. Thoughts? Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:57, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's just a random burst, not a consistent thing? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
More spammers stuck inside? I gather fraud attempts are way up at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Has it been going on for a while? Like beyond this week? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 10:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
No, not yet. I just realized I've gotten complacent because we've had so few. If it continues for more than a week or so we can ponder other options. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 17:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hopefully it's just a flareup for now... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, like acne. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah.... acne.... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Anyone want to review this? They're still here, and popping them isn't helping. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:33, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you think the captcha needs to be updated? If so I can try to get in touch with Kev. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 14:36, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Considering we all have better things to do than continuously ban spambots, probably worth asking! stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 20:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I guess whoever has his ear, go for it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


January 2010

User:Ripf22

Seriously, I am hesitant to rule vandalism, let alone conclude that he's an alt of a permabanned user. He took the user/password addition off the website as soon as he heard it was considered to be a phishing scam, and as for his behaviour, if I made a website based off Urban Dead and my only thanks was a claim it was for phishing scam, as well as the possibility of being permabanned, I would behave abrasively too. Did anyone actually test this "phishing" form out? --

09:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

After reading the form there more, I'm beginning to change my stance, though I'd want a codist I trust like Rooster or someone's confirmation before backing it as a phishing site. -- 09:52, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
CODER I TRUCST. I WULD DO X TO. SREOIUS BUSINES Cyberbob  Talk  10:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
ddr was on his guard. the meatpuppets were circling the wiki like hungry sharks, waiting to pounce on a hapless policy. he knew they were out there. they knew he knew they were out there. Look! they strike, transforming a routine a/pm rejection into a hellish nightmare of yes votes. the users of the wiki were crying out for his help... "save us from the meatpuppeters ddr! save us!" "i cant" he groaned, "i... i dont have enough proof.........." Cyberbob  Talk  10:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
abloobloobloo Cyberbob  Talk  10:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
...The Fuck? -- 14:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
im experimenting with a new burn style, you like? Cyberbob  Talk  16:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

DDR3

It is faster than 2.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 23:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

DDR2

J33z...what a mess...--Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 14:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

DDR

Wauw... Whether this is vandalism or not (I'd say yes myself), it's severe to delete and recreate A/A just to get said edits out of the system. It's also pointless; the site with pic DDR linked to is gone regardless, and the name...well...by the time it is deleted most of us will know it by then, so the damage is done regardless. Sucks but it's not that it's that bad people know your first name. Last name would be different.

Also, while your picture is gone from the interwebs for good, the yearbook page will spend another month in google's cache unfortunately, just that you know. --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 18:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

This is beyond shitty DDR. I could maybe understand sharing within the privacy of a few people, and on a secure IRC coversation, but posting that shit on the wiki? What the fuck man? I don't remember him EVER referring to you guys with your RL names, nor do I EVER remember him posting your pictures on the wiki. Just because you're okay with that, doesn't mean he is. Get your mind out of the anti-cb-haet mode and realize what you did was beyond a dick move. I'd rule vandalism if I wasn't such a noob and hadn't fucked up.

Also, whats this about manually deleting singular history items? I didn't know that was possible.-- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

That's because it isn't. Bob asked for the complete deletion of A/A and that's what Box did (and replacing it), right? --Umbrella-White.pngThadeous OakleyUmbrella-White.png 21:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
*is. Learn to wiki please. -- 00:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


moved from main -- 23:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I never attempted to "win" any petty argument, just to demonstrate a very valid point of not just idiocy, but also using uncalled-for IRL references to start up shit (as demonstrated here, not to mention calls like this that have been going on for +2 years) and any other method is obviously lost on your as demonstrated with 12 months of "banter-ish" behaviour. What you have, my friend, is a case of the butthurt because you were found out by Read or such, who, like anyone on the internet, was bothered searching your email via google. Great security there. Also, nice work on the wikipedia:Streisand_effect. -- 15:19, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
DanceDanceRevolution said:
I never attempted to "win" any petty argument, just to demonstrate a very valid point
lol? Cyberbob  Talk  15:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Aww, a bombshell destroyed your chance at last-wording-to-win-an-argument? It's as simple as this and I'll say it again: Nut up or shut up. You make IRL jokes about a group of people for 2 years, one of them is going to turn around and bite you on the arse with information that you willingly gave to them. Simple as that, be prepared. Your fucking loss. -- 15:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I make IRL jokes (that apparently were mostly not even true) that can't be used to identify you by people that don't already know you. That's quite different from posting your photo and real name, my cyberstalking friend. Cyberbob  Talk  15:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
The point is you've been bullying users and baiting them with (deliberately) far-out assumptions of their IRL relationships for 2 years and they are obviously much tougher that you they didn't bring you here- not to mention J3D and others have been refering to me by my real name against my will for months and yet I just dealt with it.
The truth is, if you're gonna fuck with someone like Read for 2 years about IRL business, you should have been prepared to get the horns, and now you can't. Someone checking information obtainable on your userpage via google and loling at the results is your security fault and your tough shit; again, and for the last time, deal with it. -- 15:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I make IRL jokes (that apparently were mostly not even true) that can't be used to identify you by people that don't already know you. That's quite different from posting your photo and real name, my cyberstalking friend. Cyberbob  Talk  15:36, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for confirming you have nothing more to say on the matter on this butthurt joke case (though your obsession with the last reply still overtook this). Maybe next time you get pwned using your famous 2C baiting technique you'll learn to use the right admin action attached to the right admin page instead of adding to this month's unecessary drama pit (btw you can manually delete contribs, noob op). TIA. -- 15:44, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
How on Earth can you manually delete contribs from the history without having to delete and recreate the page? That would've saved a lot of hassle with Iscariot a few months ago. Cyberbob  Talk  15:50, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Delete and recreate every revision that exists before the personal data was added? Der? -- 00:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
...Yeah I don't think that's really an option in most cases. Cyberbob  Talk  00:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
derp how'd that undeletion work out for you? "nice one box..." indeed Cyberbob  Talk  01:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
please check shit before you make such idiotic calls in the future. thanks. and btw, better get onto those unusedimages. watch the text links LOL -- 13:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Just slap the warning on and be done with it thanks, hopefully cyberbutthurt has understood what we mean when we say 'fuck off with unfounded IRL jokes' from now on, and if he does then my job is done. TIA. --

00:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

No I will not stop cracking jokes about the nerdy shit you guys get up to when one of you tries to call someone else a nerd. u butthurt? Cyberbob  Talk  00:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
you're fuckin kidding right? This whole case is a product of fucking butthurt (you could have just deleted the info yourself you fucking pitiful excuse for a user) and you spend the best hours of last night crying to me over A/A. Butthurt my ass. Get back to fucking your gayfl buddies. Oh no! Better run for the hills! DDR used something from CB's IRL life that he was told personally by CB!!! =O -- 01:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
haha yeah buddy it's not like the posting of the photo+name in a public place (I believe I gave you that information on IRC, no?) was itself brought on by a lil touch of the hurt butt due to "unfounded IRL jokes" Cyberbob  Talk  01:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
You think one measly escalation makes me butthurt? I work them off within days dude. then again, it's okay... After last night I can add something else to my "how to press cyberbob's buttons" list, and that's all that mattered to me from the start. -- 01:24, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Not talking about the escalation, I'm talking about the motivation for posting the photo in the first place. by the way I think you'll find "malicious posting of real life photo and name" on just about everybody's list of buttons, hope this helps Cyberbob  Talk  01:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
You'd be surprised, now you've a/vb'd me for it you've lost your own chance to give it a try and see how it flys with people who have had it been done to them for over a year now. You really dissapointed me with how quickly you folded. -- 01:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah sorry I'm not quite as fucked in the head as you :\ Cyberbob  Talk  01:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Awwww there there... Don't know what happened to you but your skin seriously went so much thinner over Christmas... (see below case too. like what?) Speaking of which, I'm gonna go out and get some sunshine. Have fun sitting infront of RC... though I'm surprised you can still manage to sit after last night... -- 01:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Iscariot

Iscariot said:
Why, oh why, am I not surprised by the actions of the Southern Cross Club yet again?

Apart from the fact there has never been an escalation given for any policy, see Jorm's paradox policy. They find me guilty of bad faith for one contribution even though both are aware and have been for some time that Zombie Lord is abusing Developing Suggestions due to his repeated statement that he's never going to take anything to the main system. He gets to continually abuse that page and attack other users in one of the main systems in this community and there is not one case for this, I propose a new cycling policy, that I'd yet to hear any objection to from other users or these two when mentioned before on talk pages and T:S and I get escalated.

Regardless that this will fix the problem now that Zombie Lord is browbeating users into leaving his suggestions unopposed through the use of unlimited arbitration rulings and is trying to systematically make T:S into his own personal user space and bury the legitimate use of the page by other users under the mass of multiple versions of his own 'work'.

For months Zombie Lord has acted in bad faith on that page and neither of these sysops even though they aware of this bad faith usage make a single case against him, I attempt to create a new cycling criteria to prevent this mass attack on the page, that has to be approved by the users of the system being abused and there's an instant case....

Kudos on the ref, just remember to link next thyme ;) xoxo 09:30, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Lord (2)

The General said:
Sorry, forgot about that. I intended to do it but it slipped my mind. My mistake, thanks for spotting it.
lol, overpoliteness, nice. xoxo 09:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
just coz you have no witty reposte to his comment...xoxo 09:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Lord

Zombie Lord said:
The Suggestion has not even been up two days yet, which is why I am removing the template. LeDouche and his gang have simply moved on to Phase 2 of their Troll War, that is, Arbitration and Vandal Banning attempts based on nothing in the hopes that my unpopularity will be enough to railroad through a banning. Yeah, it's pretty sad.
Clearly my interest here is in wasting my time preserving some template of Lelouch's that I could care less about and don't think he should be posting in the first place. Clearly. </sarcasm> I also could care less about your apparent unpopularity. I still try and respond to your suggestions with actual opinions, where appropriate, regardless of your reputation. The least you could do is assume that I'm not acting out of spite towards you, because I'm not. You need to be able to tell your friends from your enemies better. I'm neither. Aichon 04:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Right, your interest is the sanctity of Wiki Law over some meaningless so-called "precedent" that is clearly being misused to the detriment of anything resembling sanity. LeDouche is clearly an incompetent fucktard that wants to abuse technicalities so he can force the use of his lazy ass template as a Troll Weapon, regardless of the guidelines. Note that he has not bothered to do ANY other janitorial work on DS(I know because I've been doing it all) except to Troll my suggestions with his retarded template. Nice job.-- | T | BALLS! | 05:01 1 January 2010(UTC)

My understanding is that there's precedent that a contentious edit is left as it was at the time that the arbitration case was brought forward until the arbitration reaches a conclusion, that way the edit war doesn't continue throughout the case. The problem isn't that he's removing just a comment, but rather that he's removing a comment that is currently being arbitrated. Aichon 04:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

"Your understanding". I guess that means that you have no idea.-- | T | BALLS! | 05:01 1 January 2010(UTC)

Aichon, you're not going to get anywhere by arguing with him. I'd recommend just sitting tight until the Arbies case sorts it out. I personally wouldn't fuel his attention-craving by continuing to replace that template, but I'm not you. Also, 16 hours awake and counting! The keys on my laptop feel so light and ephemeral... Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 09:19, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I wasn't planning on replying to him, simply because I have no additional information to contribute to the case. You may have also noticed that he replaced his original suggestion with a new one, so I feel no compunction to continue adding the template. Oh, and it sounds like 16 hours is stretching it for you. Go get some sleep. Aichon 10:11, 1 January 2010 (UTC)