Suggestion:20080412 Tap on the Shoulder - 0 damage emotive attacks

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20080412 Tap on the Shoulder - 0 damage emotive attacks

SIM Core Map.png Swiers 22:17, 12 April 2008 (BST)

Suggestion type
attack (sort of)

Suggestion scope
all characters

Suggestion description
Along with the current attack options offered to characters, or perhaps in a new actions drop list, this would offer some new "attack" types. As with current attack types, some would be usable only as a zombie, and some would be usable only as a survivor. As a whole, these new attacks would share several features:

  • they do 0 damage
  • they have a 100% chance to hit
  • they require no skill or equipment

The purpose of these "attacks" is simply to produce an attack report on the targets screen, to allow limited "communication" (emoting) without alerting anybody else in the room. For example, when you punch somebody, they get a report that you punched them, thus know you were (and may still be) in the same location with them. But (unless the punch kills them) nobody else gets that same information. In place of a punch, this suggestion simply allows you to do that using a more accurate (100%) "attack" that does no damage, and has a name that is more appropriate for emotive communication.

For example, zombies might have the option of "desperate reaching" as a 0 damage "emotive attack". The resulting message th target sees see might be something like this:

* A zombie reached for you with desperation for 0 damage.

Kevan could even set the server code to not report damage for 0 damage attacks, resulting in something like this:

* A zombie reached for you with desperation.

Some suggested "emotive attacks" and the resulting messages follow. Note that, as with the original clothing suggestion, voting for this suggestion should NOT be based on the premise that these specific options would be the ones Kevan implements. They are simply examples of what can be done. As with Clothing, more options could be added at a later date- even season specific options, like giving people cards at Christmas!

"Attack" option name Usable by Resulting report text seen by target
tap on shoulder survivors * Name tapped your shoulder with their finger.
menacing glare survivors and zombies both * Name glared at you with malice in their eyes.
begging grasp zombies * A Zombie grasped at you with pitiful gestures.


You might ask, what's the point? Who would use this? Well, as seen in discussion a lot of people would use it, for various reasons that all boil down to allowing one person to let another person know that the two of them were in the same location, without any need for using found equipment (such as FAKs), contact lists (as for cell phones), or metagaming, and without letting everybody in the location know (as speaking would). This would be quite useful for people who want to "count coup" on an enemy, or for zombies who want to get the attention of a specific reviver, but not that of somebody who might shoot them, and so on. And, it does so within an already existing mechanic (the attack report) and so would require minimal new server overhead and coding. Plus, unlike speech or other free-form text based emoting, it is not particularly open to abuse; you can't commit "text rape", and (since its an attack and costs 1 AP) spam would be at worst a minor issue; repeated 0 damage attacks would be condensed to a single report with "... and again" appended.

Voting Section

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Keep Votes

  1. Keep Author's vote. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 22:18, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  2. Keep Useful, I like it. --  22:38, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  3. Keep Useful. - W 22:47, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  4. Keep But please see talk page, I have some questions.--Thekooks 23:03, 12 April 2008 (BST)
    Answered? SIM Core Map.png Swiers 23:57, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  5. Keep Uncle Bill nods at you with approval. --Uncle Bill 23:59, 12 April 2008 (BST)
  6. Keep Very good, very good indeed. Only thing I'm afraid of is that it could open the floodgates for people demanding new emotive attacks, which could dilude other suggestions...until they make a separate "emote suggestions" page, of course... --Nathan Blackwell 00:07, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  7. Keep - You handsome devil, you. --Vandurn 00:09, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  8. Keep --Hhal 00:20, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  9. Funt Solo QT Scotland flag.JPG votes Keep on your suggestion at 00:26, 13 April 2008 (BST).
  10. Keep - Really good job on this one, very cool.--Jamie Cantwel3 00:34, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  11. Keep - Counting Coup! waitwaitwait.... I think we have a historical event. Funt Solo voted keep... --Tselita 02:17, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  12. Keep - Very nice.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  02:44, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  13. Keep - Hmmm.... Should work. --FXI 02:56, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  14. Keep - Id love to stare at my target before I shoot em down -Downinflames 03:15, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  15. Keep/Change - Not bad. Throw in a "ignore" button available for these too, and you have my vote. --Private Mark 03:49, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  16. Keep - Yeah, an Ignore option is required, but this is a winner. --The Hierophant 04:53, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  17. Keep - Excellent. --Pvt human 05:02, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  18. Keep ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 05:10, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  19. Keep --Strata 05:10, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  20. Keep - fun! and useful. Yeah. --Jasonjason 07:59, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  21. Keep - Absolutely! -- John RubinT! ZG FER 09:14, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  22. keep - as above --~~~~ [talk] 10:02, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  23. Keep - 'Name' gooses you from behind for 0 Damage. Yeah, I could live with that. Charlie Jackpot 10:23, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  24. keep - probably the best emote suggestion i have seen, kareks point about "grasp" is well made though.--Honestmistake 12:08, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  25. keep i agree --Scotw 12:33, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  26. Keep - Facedead. Urbanbook. A zombie poked you. Not bad. ~Ariedartin • Talk • A KS J abt all 12:59, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  27. Kepp - Because I want to be able to tap someone on the shoulder, then slap him across the face.-- Quizzical  Quiz  Speak  16:43, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  28. Keep - Good flavour --Pgunn 16:49, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  29. Keep - Yes! --Heretic144 17:59, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  30. Keep - I'm curious to see the ways people could use this feature, let's do it! --Shazzelim 19:12, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  31. Keep - Keep as above!--Zardoz 20:18, 13 April 2008 (BST)--Zardoz 20:18, 13 April 2008 (BST)--Zardoz 20:18, 13 April 2008 (BST) P.S. Shame I can't tap someone with my penis...
  32. Keep - I like it, a nice idea on getting people's attention without having to damage/say anything. Acoustic Pie 20:43, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  33. Keep - The idea seems fine, if limited in use. While I don't think the flavor text is great, I'm also not really up for suggesting changes. --Diano 22:27, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  34. Keep - Why not. --Ciaran Deckardson 01:45, 14 April 2008 (BST)
  35. Keep -as above--Airborne88Zzz1.JPGT|Z.Quiz|PSS 01:57, 14 April 2008 (BST)
  36. Keep - as above. --Some1neelse 05:32, 14 April 2008 (BST)
  37. Keep/Change - 49 fewer players being spammed? Yes please! Just the tap will do though. The glares and grasps are redundant. --Explodey 11:44, 14 April 2008 (BST)
    • The idea is to have at least one negative and one positive / neutral emote available both as a zombie and as a survivor. What those actually ate, as a I said, is irrelevant. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 00:15, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  38. Keep I like it. --Midianian|T|T:S|C:RCS| 12:31, 14 April 2008 (BST)
  39. Keep - Doesn't seem too bad... -- The Lethal Trio [Tlk|NTCS|RRF] U! E! 16:43, 14 April 2008 (BST)
  40. Keep - Improved communication = better game. --Ms.Panes 03:45, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  41. *Axe Hack glares at this suggestion then pulls out a radio, possibly getting ready to mobilize his Mudkip Army.* --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:03, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  42. Keep - Cheeseman lieks dis. -- Cheese 20:16, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  43. Keep - As above.--Carnexhat 16:31, 16 April 2008 (BST)
  44. Keep - As above. --Sgt. Napalm 23:20, 16 April 2008 (BST)
  45. Keep - Yes please! --Johaen 19:59, 17 April 2008 (BST)
  46. Kepp - Can't spam much more than speaking, and if you're trying to say hi to a teammate in a crowded mall, it'sa useful.-- Quizzical  Quiz  Speak  01:23, 18 April 2008 (BST)
  47. Kepp - Arthur von Kepp for short, err... long... --BoboTalkClown 01:59, 19 April 2008 (BST)
  48. Keep - I'd like to see a directional component on these, but that suggestion was already made and failed, I think. So I'll vote for these instead. I like 'em for flavor as a way of saying "hi, I was in the area" to one person only. Neat.
  49. Keep - This would be cool, a 'whisper' function would also be nice... --Captain Neo 12:36, 20 April 2008 (BST)
  50. Keep - So kind of like Flailing Gesture for humans. I like it. --Kingofallpie 20:02, 20 April 2008 (BST)
  51. Keep - It doesn't sound like it would do any harm to anyone, plus it would help when you in a building thats filled with over 200 people! --Dessalet 02:07, 21 April 2008 (BST)
  52. Keep - i really don't like the zombie flavour text but other then that this would be really handy. The amount of AP i've wasted trying to jovially punch someone you wouldn't believe...--xoxo 05:24, 21 April 2008 (BST)
  53. Keep- Not bad, Not bad at all.--Lego minifig 05:15, 26 April 2008 (BST)
    Keep - As above. Gunsurvivor516 17:15, 27 April 2008 (BST) Deadline passed. --ZsL 01:00, 29 April 2008 (BST)

Kill Votes

  1. Change - Don't like the flavour text, and there needs to be an anti spam mechanism. 10 pokes from the same person = 1 poke. Sorry if I missed anything. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:15, 13 April 2008 (BST)
    Please check discussion page. --Hhal 00:24, 13 April 2008 (BST)
  2. Change - The zombie flavor text is absurdly foolish, Tangling Grasp confusion anyone? Not to mention I have a personal problem with voting keep on something that's main purpose will end up being form of Mrh? or Gesture at Self, something that there are already too many ways of doing, there's no need to dumb down communication to make it even easier for everyone.--Karekmaps?! 10:19, 13 April 2008 (BST)
    I specifically said the flavor texts I offered were NOT a material part of the suggestion. As for the others... well, yeah, but say one zombie wants to tap another? That doesn't let anybody else see their profiles, and thus preserves zombie anonymity; gesturing at another zombie, or speaking, would reveal the actors and maybe the targets profile link. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 00:18, 15 April 2008 (BST)
  3. Kill RPing circle jerk faggotry. More shit to waste APs on. Lovely!--DCC 20:18, 25 April 2008 (BST)
  4. Meh - never seen the need for this type of thing -- boxy talk • i 05:14 26 April 2008 (BST)

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