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Obtaining Historical Status

A policy is in place which outlines the method to attain historical status.

  1. Groups must no longer actively contribute to the game.
  2. A nomination should be made on Category talk:Historical Groups.
  3. Voting will last for exactly two weeks following nomination. To be successful, a group must be approved by 2/3 of eligible voters to pass. A minimum of 15 votes must be cast for the vote to be valid. The only allowable votes are Yes and No.
  4. Groups that pass will be added to the category as described below.
  5. Groups must allow a week to pass between nominations.
  6. Groups must allow 4 months in between when the group disbands and when they can be nominated for Historical Status. (Note: Only for Malton-based groups)


Nominations for Historical Status

When nominating a group, please add a note to Template:Wiki News and add {{HistoricalGroupVoting}} to the top of the group's page. Also, please add {{HistoricalVotingRules}} under the group's application for historical status.

New Nominations

Place new nominations for voting here.

Feral Undead

Another long-lasting and impactful zombie group. They didn't walk around and steamroll the map like RRF or MOB, but they greatly affected the area around Fort Perryn, and offered a more casual playing style than the organized hordes with their striketimes. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:34, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes

  1. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:34, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. A vastly important group in Urban Dead's history. --LordMoloch (talk) 19:38, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

No

Militant Order of Barhah

As we are loosening the standards to also allow active groups, and since last time MOB very heavily favoured and only failed on a technicality, I am resubmitting them. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:34, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes

  1. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:34, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Obviously. --LordMoloch (talk) 19:37, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

No

The Ridleybank Resistance Front

There can be no question that the RRF has been a historical group. I would suggest that it has been the most historical group in the game. No suburb is synonymous with threat to human life in the way that Ridleybank is. The Blackmore Building has been the center of countless large sieges between the RRF and humans fascinated by the danger they cause. The RRF has, simultaneously, menaced whatever area of Malton drew their attention at any particular time. From their founding in 2005 by the mythical Petrosjko to this very day, they have been one of the largest, most powerful, most respected groups in the city. Really, this vote is not over whether the RRF is historical, but rather it is over whether it is appropriate, in this final week, to override the rule against making a group which is still very much active into a historical group. I believe that it is appropriate. --VVV RPMBG 02:19, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Yes - Author Vote. --VVV RPMBG 02:19, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Sadly, it'll be inactive in a few days regardless... Levixorz (talk) 02:25, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. I think we can dispense with the inactivity requirement since, yes, all the groups will shortly be inactive anyway. --  AHLGTG THE END IS ACTUALLY NIGH!
  4. Of course. —Aichon— 06:32, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  5. Yes. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 12:37, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  6. --Axe Hack Talk 13:52, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  7. I don't even know where to begin. The whole history of UD is heavily intertwined with that of the RRF, and many many historical events like the Blackmore Sieges wouldn't have happened without them. -- Spiderzed▋ 14:09, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  8. Without question. The eternal 'Big Bad' of Urban Dead. Insomniac by Choice said years ago (2008/9 time) that if the RRF didn't exist, it was possible that the game itself might have died entirely at that time. That's probably a little excessive, but by no means as much so as it might first appear. --LordMoloch (talk) 19:27, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  9. “Yes”NZ Idol (talk) 19:43, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  10. Yes --CyanEyed C-Kids 19:49, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

No

Quartly Study Group

Helping a friend with this nomination, but there's no doubt in my head that QSG is worthy of Historical Group. With their famous lecture series that invited guests from all walks, their impact was felt in the meta community for decades after. Friends to survivors, PKers, death cultists, and zombies alike, they brought people together in a way that few other groups could accomplish and succeeded in carving out a sacred ground that was respected by nearly all groups, even years later. Though, to be fair to the zombies who ate them, QSG was known for having some of the juiciest brains around. —Aichon— 22:36, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Author vote. —Aichon— 22:36, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. QSG was unique, one of the very few groups that managed to be respected and liked across all playing styles. They might not have set off great events, but they were one of the very unique things that lent UD character and distinctiveness. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. Second. SenisterDenister
  4. 0.95 L or 1.14 L? --  AHLGTG THE END IS ACTUALLY NIGH! 03:09, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  5. Yes. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 12:37, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
  6. Technically speaking, the QSG is responsible for the UD Reunion being a thing. I mean, when you're bringing together a community just like that... --Axe Hack Talk 13:51, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

No

Escape

They were robbed last time in 2010 over still heated feelings about the event. In hindsight, Escape wasn't just the most significant thing to happen in 2010 - it was the most significant thing for many years to come that wasn't just a reheated version of things that have already been done before. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:48, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Author vote. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:48, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. Escape was one of the first "historic" groups/events I learned about when I started observing UD's oral culture. The original event has been on the This Month template every June since 2013. Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 23:36, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
  3. I strongly feel this deserves historical status, either as a group or an event. A fascinating and unique bit of UD history. Being in that group, the largest of its size for a couple years at that point, I really thought Kevan might have responded to it if the survivors made it to the leave date. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:48, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
  4. Yes, but I think this should be filed under historical events. Also, regrettable that I somehow completely missed this thing. --  AHLGTG THE END IS ACTUALLY NIGH! 03:16, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I disagree that Escape (the group) was robbed before. It was the event of the same name that was robbed of historical status before, with the group not being in the least bit noteworthy, but no one ever made a page for the event (so far as I know) and we aren't going to at this point, so it's better to have a little confusion for future UD historians than nothing at all. Especially so since the event itself was not only historical, it was the catalyst for all sorts of other historical groups/events. I stand by my previous No vote and its reasoning, but we're out of time to do it right, so it isn't a hill worth dying on. —Aichon— 20:29, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
  6. Event - I voted No last time, in favor of the event. But I think Aichon is correct that calling the group historical is close enough given the circumstances. I will point out, though, that we do have a page about the event: Escape (event). --VVV RPMBG 02:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

No

  1. An event, surely (and I'd vote Yes for that) --LordMoloch (talk) 20:08, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Team Xtreme

Team Xtreme deserves more credit than they got back in 2012. They have been the most signicant group within the tiny niche of bounty-hunting, and since the breakdown of the Rogues Gallery and its sanctioned bounty-hunting they weren't going to be surpassed within this niche either. Let's give them their trophy as the game is on the way out. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:48, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Author vote. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:48, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. yes. Never was very large, but definitely made a mark on the bounty hunting sub game. --Albert Schwan Albert Schwan  7 March 2025

No

  1. No - Who? --VVV RPMBG 06:55, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
  2. I think not. Especially if the fucking MOB somehow didn't make it (and can't now because they're back, but whatever). --LordMoloch (talk) 20:08, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Recent Nominations

Militant Order of Barhah

The MOB defined Barhah Fundamentalism for Malton, putting into sharp focus the philosophy of always-dead, migratory, horde-focused zombies. While the MOB reigned, zombies and death cultists everywhere had to reconsider or sheepishly justify their necro-religious beliefs. The MOB maintained multiple effective strike teams for years. For years, zombie activity in Malton consisted primarily of a deep red Ridleybank and an uncontrollable wrecking ball in the form of the MOB. It was like a nonstop, all-seasons Mall Tour or Big Bash. Survivors could not stop it, so they resorted to fleeing in terror and picking up the mess left behind. Jorm, The Prophet of Barhah, is personally notable for:

  • Being Mayor of Malton from 2010 to today, following the Misanthropy/Revenant administration fulfilling their campaign promise to betray the electorate by handing the keys to the city to Jorm.
  • Hosting the IRC server that was a longtime favorite for UD live chat.
  • Hosting barhah.com, the forum that was a longtime favorite for zombie groups.
  • Making Nexus War, which was more than a little popular. The spiritual successor, Nexus Clash, is still entirely alive.
  • Working for WikiMedia, where you may have seen him asking for donations.

The Prophet of Barhah himself once made the case for his horde in an arbitration case over the MOB redirect. In his trademarked steel wool and whiskey style, he addressed another group that hoped to be known as "the mob": 

Your group consists of less than 20 and has done *nothing*; my group is over 70 and has *smashed suburbs*. We are the MOB; you are the "Malton Mob."

Hagnat further noted: 

They are larger. They are famous. They have Zombies. They have Jorm.

I submit the MOB for your consideration. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes

  1. Yes - Author vote. --VVV RPMBG 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Easily one of the most notable zombie groups to have ever shambled the streets of Malton. —Aichon— 21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Yes - One of the most significant zombie groups in the game's history. -- Spiderzed▋ 04:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Yes Jorm Made me do it. RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  5. Yes - I have played Urban Dead for almost 20 years, and have been part of MOB for almost as long (19 years, give or take). No zombie group has been as impactful as MOB, and perhaps no zombie group ever will. Liche (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  6. I guess so. ^ Has this game been around for nearly 20 years? Ah, well. That can't be. (Really?) --  AHLGTG THE END IS ACTUALLY NIGH! 04:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  7. Yes DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  8. yes - i was told there would be chum. hajen (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
  9. Yes Clayton Carmine (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

No

With voting finished, MOB hasn't passed the minimum 15 votes to be made historical. That said, you can change historical voting policy (which doesn't have minimum vote requirements). --  AHLGTG THE END IS ACTUALLY NIGH! 17:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

East Becktown Defenders

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The East Becktown Defenders officially disbanded on May 1st, 2020, which makes them eligible for Historical Group status. The EBD had been active since 2016, and included dozens of members, including both veterans and entire newbies. They maintained good relationships with survivor groups (including, but not limited to the DHPD, SoC, Knights Templar and the DEM) and zombie groups (specifically the Daubeney Resident Zombies next door, and of course our favourite frenemies in the RRF). Aside from regular survivor-style operations, they also brought a fun, no-pressure approach to the game, along with wiki-tools (like the automatic SitRep on their group page) and weird events (like the EBD StatParty). The group decided not to fade away like many others, but officially disbanded after exactly 4 years of activity.

Yes

  1. Yes - PB&J 13:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. Yes - Clayton Carmine (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. Yes - MicoolTNT 13:57, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. Yes - stelar Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge 14:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  5. Yes - Roddy Winters (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  6. Yes - Matt Langley (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  7. Yes - Tarkenton (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  8. Yes - Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 23:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  9. Yes - Simcoe 07:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  10. Yes - Yo Ris (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  11. Yes - RaiNo 10:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
  12. Yes - Frank Burn (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
  13. Yes - DoXBr (talk) 14:19, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  14. Yes - Richardskull16 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  15. Yes - The Malton Globetrotters turbodunk the ayes! --【ⅎooɹd ǝʌɐɥ ᴉ sʇɐoƃ sʍoʅʚ ⅎǝᴉɹɔuoɯ uǝɹɐʞ】 ☉ We're going to destroy everything, and you can't stop us ☉ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 00:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  16. Yes - Benigno SSZ RCC 16:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No

  1. I was going to go with “Who?” but apparently we’ve spoken. As they did not fix their page in the entire 4 years they spent as a group, I cannot in good conscience vote for this group to be historical. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:13, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
  2. From what I see is a run-of-the-mill survivor group engaged in standard survivor play of maintaining a particular area. It was not innovative (like MCM or 404 were), it didn't have a distinctive style (like for example B.A.R. or ULC would have), nor was it involved in significant events (like Escape or c4NT were). -- Spiderzed▋ 20:34, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  3. As Spiderzed. Groups that had some members, did some things, and had a central pitch of being "well liked" didn't classify as historical when Urban Dead was bigger. I don't believe that should change for groups that existed during UD's long tail. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 05:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
  4. As Spiderzed. --Papa John Schnatter (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

With voting well and truly finished, the East Becktown Defenders have become a historical group. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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