Suggestion:20080620 Remove profile link from standing notification

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20080620 Remove profile link from standing notification

-- boxy ^{talk • i} 16:58 20 June 2008 (BST) 16:58, 20 June 2008 (BST)

Suggestion type
Improvement

Suggestion scope
Zombies standing up

Suggestion description
A simple suggestion, remove the link to a zombies profile that shows up every time they stand up. Simply standing up should not let everyone in the block identify a zombie.

Revivified survivors who stand up will be unaffected by this suggestion.

Voting Section

Voting Rules

Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped. # justification ~~~~ Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user.

The only valid votes are Keep, Kill, Spam or Dupe. If you wish to abstain from voting, do not vote.

Keep Votes

1. Keep Yep. What if theyre on youre contacts list? Are they identified? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 17:02, 20 June 2008 (BST)

   No linky to profile, at least -- boxy ^{talk • i} 17:26 20 June 2008 (BST)

2. Keep - Definitely. --The Hierophant 17:15, 20 June 2008 (BST)
3. Keep - Zombie Anonymity should be restored. We all have faces but they look the same. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 17:30, 20 June 2008 (BST)
4. Keep - It can tell you a zombie stood up, but it shouldn't tell you who it is. Zombie anonymity and all.--– Nubis ^NWO 19:21, 20 June 2008 (BST)
5. Keep - Aye. -- Cheese 21:52, 20 June 2008 (BST)
6. Obviously Jonny12 ^talk 23:12, 20 June 2008 (BST)
7. Keep - As Grim. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:18, 20 June 2008 (BST)

   --~~~~ [talk] 23:23, 20 June 2008 (BST) Vote not justified. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 06:18, 21 June 2008 (BST)

8. Keep - az grim. -- LABIA on the INTERNET ^{Dunell Hills Corpseman} #24 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ^TMG 03:45, 21 June 2008 (BST)
9. Keep zombies anonymous. --Ocular ^Druuuuu 05:54, 21 June 2008 (BST)
10. Keep - I liked boxy's explanation on kill vote #8. --Shigogouhou 06:11, 21 June 2008 (BST)
11. Keep - Deal with zergs by banning open proxies. Simple... and I don't care about the excuses people make for them, no one really needs proxies, gimme a break. Meanwhile, give us back zombie anonymity. --WanYao 12:33, 21 June 2008 (BST)
12. Keep - absolutely has to happen. a game shouldn't have small and logical suggestions killed simply because it stops an opportunity to spot zergs, it is stupid. Also, it shouldn't be killed just because kids 'enjoy browsing profiles'. I would hate to see this suggestion killed simply because of such silly suggestions. DanceDanceRevolution 13:44, 21 June 2008 (BST)
13. le keep --Minigun4523 13:54, 21 June 2008 (BST)
14. Keep -- Zombie anonymity, etc. --Aeon17x 16:57, 21 June 2008 (BST)
15. Keep -- There are better ways of dealing with zergs (both harman and zombie) than taking away zombie anonymity. -- Murray Jay Suskind 17:38, 21 June 2008 (BST)
16. Keep -- As boxy's explanation on kill #8. It explains all. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 20:26, 21 June 2008 (BST)
17. Keep - Keep Zombies anonymous, other ways of stopping zergs.--drawde ^{DORIS•RR•RRF•RI!} 23:16, 21 June 2008 (BST)
18. Question - You specify rules for zombies (those who were zombies before being killed) standing up after being killed, and for those who are standing after a revive, but what about those who were a survivor before being killed? Same rule as the zombies or not? - User:Whitehouse 01:02, 22 June 2008 (BST)
19. Keep - Yep. --Howard Bentley 02:08, 22 June 2008 (BST)
20. Keep - eh--Jamie Cantwel3 ^TalkAll glory to the Hypnotoad! 03:25, 22 June 2008 (BST)
21. Keep - yes Yes YES yes Yes YES yes Yes YES A Thousand Times Yes.--Karek^maps?! 14:13, 22 June 2008 (BST)
22. Above and up. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 14:54, 22 June 2008 (BST)
23. Keep - Why hasn't this been implemented yet? --BoboTalkClown 16:26, 23 June 2008 (BST)
24. Keep - I don't need to know who stood up.--Insomniac By Choice 08:54, 2 July 2008 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - This is the first efficient way to find zombie zergs, leave it alone. -- 
   •  Nevin McAvoy 
   •  (talk) 
   18:35, 20 June 2008 (BST)
2. Kill - A logical suggestion; however, I have to disagree with Grim. Although zombies should be anonymous, I am ALWAYS reading people's profiles. I would hate to have less of an opportunity to do so.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  18:48, 20 June 2008 (BST)

   Worst kill vote evah. You want to see moor profiles? Go to the database -- boxy ^{talk • i} 19:52 20 June 2008 (BST)

   Reading random profiles and reading profiles of people who perform actions around me are two different things. Also, as others have said, this is a useful game mechanic when hunting zergs. Kill vote it remains.  Billy Club Thorton  T!  RR  02:54, 21 June 2008 (BST)

3. Kill - because I doubt all zombies look the same.--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 19:00, 20 June 2008 (BST)
4. Kill - Transparency. --Heretic144 19:23, 20 June 2008 (BST)
5. kill - as above --Scotw 19:29, 20 June 2008 (BST)
6. Kill - Doesn't really break zombie anonymity towards survivors, only towards other zombies. Which is pretty much how I think it should be. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 19:39, 20 June 2008 (BST)

   Ummm, wat? My survivor sees links to zombie profiles when they stand up inside. And anyway, plenty of survivors spend time outside their safehouses before getting revivied... they get to see which zombies are standing up the way it is now -- boxy ^{talk • i} 19:47 20 June 2008 (BST)

   Yes, survivors can see a link to their profile when they stand up inside. This is pretty much the only situation where a survivor can see the message. It doesn't happen all that often, and when it does, a zombie standing up amidst a group of survivors is remarkable enough to warrant giving their profile. Most of the time, zombies are the only ones who're going to see the messages. Oh, and if someone is standing outside waiting for a revive, that means they're a zombie, not a survivor. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 20:16, 20 June 2008 (BST)

7. Kill - A few weeks ago I would have voted Keep. But I am only recently learning to detest zerg players. As Viktor. --Vandurn 00:02, 21 June 2008 (BST)
8. Kill - unless someone explains to me why zombie anonymity is so sacred. (Good, balanced game-play reasons, please.) --Funt Solo ^QT 00:50, 21 June 2008 (BST)

   Nerfs brain rotters blocking revive queues by letting every potential revivee see which zombies have and have not got brainrot. Pretty handy when it comes to paying if forward after standing. They don't need to use a DNA extractor, they just go through all the stand up notifications and pick the ones they want to revive. Same if the stand up happens indoors, people know which zombies can be combat revived for absolutely no AP cost when they don't have to DNA extract to get the information. It's basically giving survivor orientated players free information that should be costing everyone in the room 1 AP to get -- boxy ^{talk • i} 03:34 21 June 2008 (BST)

   Thanks for the explan. My solution would be to hide the Brain Rot skill in the profile listing from everyone except the user. That makes more sense than making all zombies somehow identical. The anonymity thing has always bothered me, and if the only good reason for it is to hide brain rot, then brain rot being hidden is the solution. --Funt Solo ^QT 20:31, 22 June 2008 (BST)

   Discussion continued on talk page -- boxy ^{talk • i} 08:25 23 June 2008 (BST)

9. Kill - i wanna know if it's a pro-zombie standing up or the survivor i just killed!--xoxo 03:06, 21 June 2008 (BST)
10. Kill - Nah. Zombie anonymity is already overdone and not really in-genre. It's not like they strip or lose their features as soon as they die. --Pgunn 03:28, 21 June 2008 (BST)
11. Say No to Zergers! - This is our only way to hunt them, AFAIK. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 06:52, 21 June 2008 (BST)
12. Kill - This seems to remove the point of these notifications, I dont care if a random zombie stands up it happens all the time. --Pvt human 11:38, 21 June 2008 (BST)
13. Kill - As Viktor. I also don't see how it's bad to see who the zombies around you are. Meh. --Jasonjason 15:54, 21 June 2008 (BST)
14. Kill - That there are other ways in which zombies don't get identified does not imply that any particular way in which a zombie does get identified should be removed. - Fred Fredfredson 16:33, 21 June 2008 (BST)
15. Kill - xpk --brb, church ^{DORIS CGR U!} 17:38, 21 June 2008 (BST)
16. Kill - prozombie. gabdewulf 17:41, 21 June 2008 (BST)
17. Kill - I think a zombie standing up from death would be a noticeable event, such as seeing one attack someone else. --ZsL 23:16, 22 June 2008 (BST)
18. Kill - As Viktor. And I don't think the recent change hurts zombie anonymity that much. --Explodey 12:02, 23 June 2008 (BST)
19. Weak Kill - overall harmless suggestion, but the people who were saying how this is a good way to spot zergers convinced me to vote kill. Plus as Pgunn, as Blake, as Midianian, and as Viktor... and most people ignore those messages anyway --Tselita 18:12, 23 June 2008 (BST)
20. kill - I am disagree. Sanpedro 02:46, 26 June 2008 (BST)
21. Kill - "A zombie stood up." Sure, that's damn useful. May as well not have it at all. ~Ariedartin • Talk • A KS J abt all 18:49, 2 July 2008 (BST)
22. kill - This is pointless. Besides, seeing a zombie standing up and knowing who it is isn't going to make much difference. Most stand up on the street alone, or only around a few of their friends. Their anonymity isn't threatened anyhow.--Kolechovski 19:50, 3 July 2008 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes