User talk:Iscariot/Archive

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Bug Report

Just letting you know that I've responded to your bug report, and that is most likely a feature, not a bug. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:58, 17 September 2008 (BST)

Recruitment page

Care to comment? - User:Whitehouse 13:40, 9 September 2008 (BST)

Soldier and the Special Zombie Extermination Squad

The Background

It is important to remember when reading this the difference between a player and their individual characters.

I, Iscariot, Patron Saint of Dupes, also maintain the Recruitment page. During routine maintenance I noticed an ad that broke the guidelines. Instead of removing it, as was my right, I decided to inform the owner that they should correct their ad. This user then decided to respond on my talk page with demands. I do not tolerate demands and responded appropriately.

The Continuation

Soldier then decided to respond to his disagreement with myself, the player, by listing one of my characters on his group's enemy and Kill On Sight list. He did not pick my death cultist that actively hurts the survivor cause, he chose to select my Philosophe Knight. For reference my Philosophe Knight is a pacifist, does not harm survivors and is actively moving through the entirety of Malton repairing museums and libraries. Over time he has added a threat rating to the list in question and has listed my character as a 'Moderate' threat. That is on par with characters that have actually killed other survivors and higher than known and respected PKer group SillyLillyPilly.

An Act of Kindness

Instead of resolving the matter ingame with the murder of his entire group by my death cultist, I was forced to respond from the position of my Knight to avoid breaking the spirit of the anti-zerging rule. Accordingly I tried to be diplomatic and posted terms of surrender for Soldier to accept. Not only did he not agree to these terms, but the response he did give breached many of the terms.

Resolution

Based on the subject's continued actions and attitudes, I am forced to allow my Philosophe Knight to judge him, and his group, based on the Articles of Ignorance

The subject is found guilty of the following crimes:

Class A

Slander

Class B

Ignorance

The punishment for such crimes is clear. Repeated education by a Philosophe Knight educator or by an allied group.

The group is found guilty of:

Mass Hindrance

Mass Slander

The punishment for these crimes is also clear, addition to the Enemies of Enlightenment list and education on sight for all members

The Knowledge

The following are known profiles of the criminals:

Soldier

Zombie Hunter Recon

Reporter John

This edit also implies that SZES uses zerging tactics

Their most likely location is The Murtaugh Motel in Penny Heights. They are known to restock in Giddings Mall.

Other locations where they claim as territory are:

Lavor Alley School in Pitneybank

Haydon Auto Repair in Spicer Hills

The Piggott Building in Spicer Hills

They are known to frequent Wasteland 23,97 in Spicer Hills as a revive point.

In Summation

Soldier decided to select a non-combatant character to pick on due to a disagreement with that player's owner. He chose this character even though it is well known he is a pacifist and survivor orientated. By doing this Soldier reveals himself and his group as cowardly.

Soldier refused generous peaceful overtones and responded with hostile acts and words.

Soldier and his group have been judged enemies of enlightenment and will be added to the Philosophe Knight Kill On Sight list. Their names and profiles will be forwarded to all allied groups and organisations that the Philosophe Knights are associated with.

Soldier's right to reply is hereby revoked. He is no longer welcome to post on any page in Iscariot's namespace. Precedent in Vandal Banning shows that an individual posting on another's namespace after specifically being informed that they are unwelcome constitutes an act of vandalism. Any breach will be reported.

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor for Damon Young, Knight of the Philosophe Order 20:49, 8 September 2008 (BST)

"l0l 0wnt"? Loved the links. Also:

SZES Officer 01

SZES Officer 02

SZES Officer 03

Sorry if you don't want comments posted under this header, _■^■ 02:10, 9 September 2008 (BST)

You have followed the page guidelines and provided great assistance, I approve of your post!

It also helps prove the question of potential zerging I feel.

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:29, 9 September 2008 (BST)

I wanted to die after reading his page x.o..

"Avertizement"? Wot? Logs 15, 20, and 21? lawl. It's interesting and maddening, His Incoherency..

_■^■ 22:42, 9 September 2008 (BST)

Cycling Suggestions

When cycling suggestions, do not remove anything from the top, nor the SugVoteBox template from the voting section. Navigation is just as useful after closing than before it, and the SugVoteBox template keeps the page in Category:Suggestion Pages. Just add the template to the top and remove the things from the bottom. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 10:53, 6 September 2008 (BST)

I have no idea who did it right or wrong first or last, I just made sure it's done right THIS time. Add the template, and delete everything below the last vote. Every time. Period. And no one will complain. Or shouldn't. --WanYao 11:28, 6 September 2008 (BST)

I remove everything below the last spam when I cycle suggestions, but I don't bother removing the horizontal line if someone left it there. The most important thing here is not to delete {{SugVoteBox}}. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 13:28, 6 September 2008 (BST)

That shouldn't be getting deleted because it's not at the top or the bottom of the page: the only places that need to be touched when cycling... Now, I honestly thought you knew how to do this, Iscariot. Probably just an oversight, I'll stop harassing you on your Talk page now! ;) --WanYao 13:44, 6 September 2008 (BST)

Apology

Okay, I forgive. And just for your sake I will not report about you. But under one rule: If you made a threat to my group or any of my allies' groups, I will had to declare war on your group! And to prove that I'm serious about this, you have 48 Hours to accept my appolgy. Failure would be, I don't know won't be tolerated. So to make a long story short I'm sorry and promise to stop making threats.

-- Soldier 23:51, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Recruitment problem Fixed

Okay, I've fixed it by removing it. I admit that the flag looks like it has been made by a 8 year old. But I have to warn you, if you insult me at anything else even I don't care I had to report about it. You're lucky I don't know how but insulting will not be tolerated the second time.

-- Soldier 19:29, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Firstly, fuck off! Don't bring demands to my page retard.

Secondly, go right to Vandal Banning, there's a link above. They'll also tell you to fuck right off, there is no civility policy on this wiki. Grow up.

Thirdly, read the fucking rules crotch spawn, it's not like I put them at the top so window lickers like you would be able to find them.

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:37, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Behold everyone, the stupidity of this moron!

He dislikes my response so goes to his group page and lists one of my characters as a 'Psycopath' (evidently English wasn't his best subject in school, nor was using a spell checker).

Did he list my dastardly death cultist, a member of the renowned Gore Corps? No, this idiot decides to list my Philosophe Knight, yes, that would be the same character known to groups all over Malton as someone known for rebuilding Malton and preserving knowledge. It's not like it says on his page that he's a pacifist or anything. Picking on a peaceful librarian, how brave of the mighty Special Zombie Extermination Squad.

It would be wrong of me to use my death cultist to shoot him for his blatant stupidity, that would be zerging. Accordingly I'll have to respond from the view of my Philosophe Knight. He doesn't shoot people, so, what shall I do?

This idiot has 48 hours from the time of this post to write a grovelling and sincere apology and post it on this page. This apology is to be perfect in its spelling and grammar. He is also to remove my listing from his group's page permanently. The place of my listing is to be taken by an apology directed at every reader of his page apologising for his poor spelling and grammar and continued acts of stupidity on this wiki. This apology is to remain in place for three months.

Failure to comply with this benevolent compromise will result in the following action:

1. He and his group shall be added to the Philosophe Knights' enemy list. Every Knight coming across himself or his group will execute on site. Unlike the Rogue's Gallery, there is no way off this list.

2. The names and profiles of his group shall be passed to all Player Killer groups allied with the Philosophe Knights. These groups include the Spartans, Lebende Tote and the Flowers of Disease amongst others. I trust the consequences are obvious.

3. As before, names and profiles will be passed to the PKA so that all member groups can add to their target lists. As various groups are in the middle of two large events, the Malton Uprising and the Player Killer Olympics, this means that idiot boy and his group won't have many hiding places at all.

4. All survivor groups allied with the Philosophe Knights will be asked to restrict aid and contact to this group. Such venerable organisations that would be approached include the Quartly Study Group, The Fortress and the Malton College of Medicine.

I'd advise against 'fighting back'. The last group that tried fighting a PK coalition suffered crushing defeat and humiliation.

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 21:04, 31 August 2008 (BST)

Who is this fool? Why does he commit the crime of slander so freely?--DT^PK 21:39, 31 August 2008 (BST)

The Culture Tour 2008

Hello, is there anyway assist in anyway on your humble quest?

Since I see the suburbs left are, According a map, derelict, You might care for an extra hand?

As a sidenote, I've been considering attempting to join the Philosophe Knights.

_■^■ 02:59, 19 August 2008 (BST)

All vetting of potential applicants for the Order takes place on our forum. You can login with 'The Visitor' account and apply for membership for one of your characters.

Given that you may consider entry into the group at some point in the near future, being conscious of the spirit of the zerging rules, I must respectfully decline your offer of aid. Even accidentally I, nor the Order, do not not run the risk of multiple alt abuse ever.

However, do feel free to follow the progress of the tour and attend the completion celebration at Quartly Library at the conclusion of my odyssey.

-- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 22:32, 19 August 2008 (BST)

Would you accept a revive? Also, Dakerstown is survivor held, Atleast in some capacity. _■^■ 00:43, 1 September 2008 (BST)

I accept random revives all the time, feel free. My next target is Eastonwood, I have intelligence that some of our allied survivor groups have been repairing in that area. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:48, 1 September 2008 (BST)

Alright, That isn't a large deviation of my course to Dakerstown, After I finish dispatching this breach at Southall Mansion.. _■^■ 01:10, 1 September 2008 (BST)

With your last two postings, 11/9/08 and 12/9/08, Would you accept assistance at this point? _■^■ 01:31, 14 September 2008 (BST)

Internal Header

Whats an internal header?

OK, for starters, sign your posts, put ~~~~ after your post to do this.

Secondly internal headers are the sections surrounded by equals signs. They create a link from the contents box at the top. If you use more than the current section it is in you create an internal section of the preceding one. Such headers are banned from recruitment ads as they screw up the page by doing this. This is why I removed your ad, am about to do it again and will continue to do so for as long they remain in there. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:40, 25 July 2008 (BST)

My 'brainstorming' page

Since almost every person who ever voted on one of my suggestions ever has been complaining that I've come up with nothing but crap, I created this brainstorming page for me to develop ideas before I put them on Talk:Suggestions. I've got a couple of ideas up there already, and some feedback would be appreciated. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 11:46, 22 July 2008 (BST)

Why dont you tell me what I did wrong?

When I added the M-BEK pages you deleted it. Im no expert on it and im sure alot of people are so maybe you can help me cause you seem to know what youre doing.--Doctor Oberman ^MBEK 17:40, 17 July 2008 (BST)

All ads on the recruitment page must conform to the standards set out clearly at the beginning of the page. One of these criteria is that no ad should have any internal headers of any kind. Any ad that does not conform to the guidelines can be deleted immediately. Yours was.

If you'll notice, I did put the reasoning in the edit summary. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 17:51, 17 July 2008 (BST)

Problem with the recrutment Page

Hi - when I went on to update the timestamp on my recrutment advert I noticed that it was centre allingned. Upon closer inspection I found that everything from the C section onwards was centre aligned (which I know isnt suppose to be). It appears that "Cheap Ass Survivors : Pro-Survivor" groups recrutment adverticment is whats causeing it. I would sort it myself but I dont want to change anything incase I make a mistake or incase you need permission to edit peoples recrutments (I dont want to get into any trouble) - this is the reason I came to you. I know that you moniter and keep the recrutment page upto date so could you please have a look at it and see if it can be fixed. Many thanks in advance --Feon Kensai 10:19, 7 July 2008 (BST)

No-one needs permission to alter any advert that is breaking any of the guidelines or is breaking the page. I've had a look at the page and ad in question and can't see anything wrong. It might just be the way my screen's set up so I'll get Whitehouse to have a look. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 17:34, 7 July 2008 (BST)

No error in your browser, we were just looking at the wrong ad. If you look at the "C" header it was also centre aligned, as such it must have been the last ad in "B" section causing the "C" header and subsequent articles to centre. Appears that Browncoats recruitment ad hadn't closed their tags, causing articles below them to be included as part of their table and as such centred. Fixed now. User:Whitehouse 18:26, 7 July 2008 (BST)

Cheers dude, I suck at wiki formatting so I thought you'd be able to pick up on it. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:31, 7 July 2008 (BST)

deleted my ad

i was wondering y you deleted my ad and i request that you dont do it again or i will report you. --Fanglord2 15:48, 2 July 2008 (BST)

He would have deleted your ad because it was out of date. When the timestamp is two weeks old, the ad is removed. He's done nothing wrong. -- Cheese 15:49, 2 July 2008 (BST)

y would he do that i never knew were were supposed to restamp it?--Fanglord2 15:51, 2 July 2008 (BST)

'After two weeks as measured from the timestamp the entire advert may be removed for inactivity / non-compliance. It is the group’s responsibility to update the timestamp to avoid having the advertisement deleted. <--- It says that at the top of the page in the guidelines. -- Cheese 15:53, 2 July 2008 (BST)

oh ok sorry my Apologys i reupdated it.--Fanglord2 15:57, 2 July 2008 (BST)

Don't look a gift horse in the template

	Play on Names
	This user received a template with his likeness. Get it? George Carlin duped The Last Supper as Iscariot.

It's a shame that George Carlin had to die have a terminal episode for me to come up with this template Play on Names. I just didn't want to make one with a bible picture for you. Too obvious. This is much better. Enjoy. --Tselita 18:45, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Please go to http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Deletions and vote Keep so that the Grimch doesn't try to delete the template I made for you (and others). Thank you. --Tselita 13:06, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Your services are required

OK. There's a couple of my suggestions on the Talk:Suggestions page that are getting some good feedback, but before I progress with them any further, I want you to check to see if they're duplicates. Honestly, I'm useless at finding dupes as I can never really figure out where exactly to look for 'em.

You, on the other hand, seem to be pulling dupes left, right, centre and any other direction one can think of. So, I would like you to search for dupes for my suggestions, to see if they should go up to Suggestions.

Find the dupe #1!

Find the dupe #2!

Thank you in advance --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 13:32, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I'm rushed off my feet with the real world at the moment, so you'll forgive me for not finding the exact links.

Number one (Going on the current 2.0 version on the linked page). This isn't a suggestion, this is several. That's going to get it killed as a suggestion from the start. Anyone who dislikes any aspect of the many things you are trying to implement is going to kill the whole thing on that basis.

The tuning of generators to run longer (with and without a prerequisite skill) has been done before. It was generally shot down due to the massive factor of the AP balance already in favour of survivors. This will get shot down for the same reason and by trenchies who don't want PKers lighting up their Fortresses of Eternal Darkness for longer to shoot them.

Number two (Going on the current suggested version). The notion of using that survivor's DNA is complex, as well as an open opportunity for zergers to have syringe mules specifically for themselves. Having it cure infection is what's going to get this spammed to death though due to the bigger implications. It means infection is no longer a problem, survivors no longer have to expend APs and revives holding malls and hospitals, this will cause an almost game breaking swing in AP balance from the current pro survivor to massively pro survivor. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:07, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Rumor is Iscariot gained his dupe-finding abilities because while on a field trip, he was bitten by a radioactive dupe, and now he has the superpower of being able to find them with a special 'Dupe Sense' --Tselita 16:50, 26 June 2008 (BST)

Actually I use a special superpower call "Common Sense" when it comes to dupes. It works very well.

I was once bitten by a radioactive redhead....that was fun :) -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:07, 28 June 2008 (BST)

RE: The Recruitment Page

I think I cleared up the mess. I used the last revision by you as a basis, then added all the correct changes to that. The only ad I forgot to put back in was the DK one which I'll do now (without destroying the page). - User:Whitehouse 13:34, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Torches

Seriously - I want to know.
If they call flashlights torches (first successfully commercially produced by Everready in 1899), what do our Brit friends across the puddle call a torch (the fiery kind)?
Tell me Tell me Tell me! I need to know now. This question tortures my mind now. --Tselita 14:29, 29 May 2008 (BST)

Flame torches are called torches, flashlights are called Electric torches. Answer your question?--PX 22:11, 8 September (BST)

Talk:Suggestions

You know I wrote the guidlines for that page right? The intent was for suggestions to be removed once discussion had ceased, the 5 days thing is just to be sure it really is dead, when the author themselves say they have no intention of continuing the discussion the suggestion can and should be removed.--Karek^maps?! 04:33, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Great(!) More rules written one way and then acted on by sysops in a completely different manner. That's just what this wiki needs. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:43, 27 May 2008 (BST)

Your Keep on Triangulation

Keep - This is a dupe, but I like innocent bystanders being murdered, so if someone wants to dupe it they can go find the link themselves. -- Iscariot BB2 PK WTE 18:34, 25 May 2008 (BST) - This cracked me up for 2 reasons. (1) it's the second time I've ever seen you vote keep on anything (first time voting keep on something which will actually pass), and (2) the keep reasoning is hilarious :) --Tselita 18:48, 25 May 2008 (BST)

I'm actually waiting someone to whine and take me to A/VB for it. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:53, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Not so sure they will - like I said I think this was more about trying to 'get me' than about the structure by which I rsepond to incredibly long winded posts on my user page. --Tselita 19:14, 25 May 2008 (BST)

I meant for the keep vote. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 19:23, 25 May 2008 (BST)

That would be hilarious too. People are way anal about the wiki --Tselita 19:55, 25 May 2008 (BST)

That Crucifix thing

Wow... you've never voted keep on a single idea of mine and even I've never had that sort of animosity towards you. There some underlying history between the two of you, like there is with me and some members of the Malton Globetrotters? --Tselita 18:31, 24 May 2008 (BST)

I tend not to have animosity towards people in general. While I may think certain ideas are bad, it has no bearing on my view of the people making them. However, the hypocrisy of religious dogma gets to me, as do cheating scumbags. That moron is proven to have created alts on the wiki to try and force suggestions through. Accordingly I hope he fucks off and dies. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:36, 24 May 2008 (BST)

How did they prove he created them? Just curious, because no one's been able to find out who created the stupid sock puppets that ruined my nailgun suggestion. Which I'm still annoyed about. I'm probably going to be holding off on bringing nailgun v2.0 to a vote until the zombie population rises a bit. Can't really make weapon suggestions when the survivor population is doing better - it's self-defeating. --Tselita 18:47, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Proof here. There are all sorts of screens and buttons that sysops get to check these things. Send your suggestion up, remember PR actually means nothing, Ankle Grab came from rejected. I'd also like to point out the current stats and the lack of whining from 'my side' as opposed to the amount of whining from 'your side' when the situation was reversed. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:53, 25 May 2008 (BST)

Not that I'm implying that The Dead are 'your side' but they did quite a bit of kvetching. And there was that whole 'On Strike' thing that I've heard a lot about (though it was long before my time). I do agree that survivors acting like trenchies are far more likely to whine than zombies acting like griefers are likely to whine (again - I'm not calling you a griefer, I'm talking about the extremes on both sides). In any case, it's a moot point. I've been playing zombies lately more than survivors, despite my wiki stance, and I think I know which of my alts I am going to turn PKer. Just need to wait until work eases up a bit so I can have time to post on the forums to get advice. --Tselita 14:33, 29 May 2008 (BST)

Giddings Mall Page

Please stop edit warring and take the issue to Arbitration. I'm leaving the page protected until the case begins so get a move on. This has gone on way too long. -- Cheese 23:38, 17 May 2008 (BST)

Get off your high horse. Just looking into the History, I can see at least 3 occasions of you being involved in the edit warring. I've put the above comment on because you were one of the 3 involved in it, and protected the page to stop the other two going at it when they come back on. Stop moaning. I'm not picking on you. -- Cheese 23:53, 17 May 2008 (BST)

Sorry Sir

Hi Iscariot, sorry about my "impersonation" of you, which, while related to temporary feelings of anger at being called a retard, also had a lot to do with a misunderstanding of site policy and a sudden joyous power trip realization of the kinda crap you can get away with over the internet (that suggestion was my first wiki edit evar!) Anyway, I won't do it again even if you severely piss me off, and I hope there's no hard feelings. See you round the wiki ---Pac8s

BTW, I really like your alternate server idea, although it seems really complex to put into action of course. Do you have resources to do it, or are you talking to anybody about it? Obviously people object to sweeping changes of the existing Malton map, but I agree with you that Urban Dead is really far from feeling in-genre, and I think alternate cities are an excellent solution to that problem. --Pac8s 02:27, 18 May 2008 (BST)

I do not have any resources to do it, computing is witchcraft to me. The development on version 2.0 stopped after it went on the suggestions page for comment. It really needs version 3.0 doing due to the Monroeville lessons, just I can't be bothered. I have another idea for an alternate server, but....can't be arsed. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:18, 20 May 2008 (BST)

Moderation

cuntdrama was perma banned as a vandal, that's why his comment was removed. Do not revert. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 00:13, 15 May 2008

1. Read the rules of the fucking page, it's not like I put them at the top or anything....
2. Who banned him? And who made the report? And who ruled on that? You better hope I don't find the answer I suspect I'm going to find or you can go ahead and write your next misconduct case yourself. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:18, 15 May 2008 (BST)

Are you tripping on shrooms kiddo ? First of all, yeah it was me the one who banned him. His user name was a offensive towards a established user from this community, that alone is reason to ban him. Would you like us to take lightly on a Shitcariot user who were only harrasing every edit you make ? He also posted a goatse picture in the wiki, you think that's good faith ? He even dedicated it to conn. Now... put your gun where your mouth is, or STFU... i dont need an ass threatening me every time i do my job in here. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 00:27, 15 May 2008 (BST)

Actually, I think he'd just laugh if somebody named themselves shitcariot. It'd be funny if you asked me. I wish I had a vandal named after me...-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:36, 15 May 2008 (BST)

Pooicidal angel? Shagnat? Smelita? Twitscariot? --Tselita 14:37, 29 May 2008 (BST)

OOooOO!

Is Santlerville the only burb in Malty with no librarys or museums? Or are you boycotting for some other reason? And why doesn't the tour include schools?--xoxo 12:01, 3 May 2008 (BST)

Unless you can show me otherwise, or I've missed something (possible given the speed with which I made that list) then I believe that Santlerville is the only suburb that doesn't play host to a library or museum. No wonder the population spend most of their time drunk....

I've been meaning to go ask the Beavers for suggestions for an alternative location to visit in order to include Santlerville in the tour.

I deliberately kept schools out due to the nature of the school system and teachers to sour peoples' attitudes to education and self betterment. I still need to get confirmation on the layouts of the mansions, studies and libraries there will also be included, but the wiki seems to be lacking. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 12:08, 3 May 2008 (BST)

Yeah i can't think of one of the top of my head. Us Santlervillians are more the shopping and drinking type, although we are also quite religious and don't like to travel, with only one railway station in the suburb. The Sweatman Motel is a great place to go if you're looking to expand your mind. If you didn't think one person being twenty people was possible, just check the pavement outside The Sweatman, it's mind blowing.--xoxo 13:04, 3 May 2008 (BST)

Recruitment Removal

Hi - I know that yesterday you removed the Deck of 52 recrutment post. I need you to tell me what the date on the time stamp said please because I think I may have made a mistake with timing/schedual for when Im to update the timestamp - can you please get back to me on this and help me out - THANKS in advnace --Feon Kensai 16:28, 2 May 2008 (BST)

Thank you for your time a quick responce - I guess I got my timing wrong LOL (will up date it weekly now) - I promiss this wont happen again and sorry. I have to commend you for your quick action of keeping the recrutment page up to date though ;) - nicly done. Thanks again for your time - you helped a lot (I have a bad memmory). Cya around.

P.S: Sorry I put this subject at the bottom of the talk page :( - I will pay more attention next time --Feon Kensai 13:46, 3 May 2008 (BST)

They're asking questions

Over here, just thought you should know *nods and walks off* --xoxo 08:50, 26 April 2008 (BST)

Yes indeed. It struck me as curious that despite being inactive for two months, you were able to check the PK forum nearly every day. That's why I sent you the private message earlier. (Also because my job as the PK's on-duty librarian is in part to maintain the active member lists and other information in the library reference collection, and I was trying to figure out how to place you.) -- User:VI/signature 00:43, 30 April 2008 (BST)

Ha ha ha! That's hilarious. And to think I've been totally confused all this time. I've seen the sort of window-thing you're talking about before, so I know what you mean. Anyway, sorry about bothering you. Spies are no threat at all to the Knights, but I keep my eyes open regardless, partially because it's fun to find them, and partially because having a the PK riddled with spies would sort of destroy our reputation as mysterious and esoteric. -- User:VI/signature 00:50, 30 April 2008 (BST)

I look forward to it. It seems you have your work quite out out too, what with the state of things these days. Praise Knowledge, as they say. -- User:VI/signature00:57, 30 April 2008 (BST)

Our Talk

Iscariot, I think we should continue our talk in your page instead of in Gab's since it no longer has anything to do with anything he was saying :)

What did you mean by me being a bad luck charm since one of my characters tends to be in the Buttonville area? --Tselita 00:21, 25 April 2008 (BST)

Feel free to move the whole thing over here so it doesn't clutter his page.

You? Bad luck? Have you read the Zombie forecast? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:36, 25 April 2008 (BST)

You said: "Somebody has to speak up for zombies on that page otherwise we'd have survivors in mechs. My 'PKer' doesn't kill anyone, and is actually on a tour to visit and repair buildings... yeah, he helps zombies ....:P

I think you're confusing pure DCing with other things, however you are definitely misunderstanding what I mean by fun! ;) -- Iscariot" Oh I have no problem with you sticking up for zombies. I actually like when you point out dupes for me so that I don't make a fool of myself in Suggestions. And the comment you made about letting zombies use sledgehammers I think got me a few keep votes when I made sure to make it clear that zombies -can- use sledgehammers.

Dupes are easy to point out, just waste some time on the old suggestions. I still don't like that sledgehammer suggestion, but with support like that it's a bit pointless bothering. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:36, 25 April 2008 (BST)

I realize that right now I am basically a pro-survivor suggester (although my not enough shotgun suggestion was definitely not pro-survivor), but that's only because I started playing the game right when The Dead started playing so I have a certain view of things. I do try to make my suggestions balanced though... you never see me suggesting mechs or machine guns or flamethrowers, now do you.

There's nothing wrong with being prosurvivor, there's something wrong with being trenchie, you don't want to do that. Go hang out with the classy survivors at Beerhah. You'll notice that the majority also have zombie alts.... -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:36, 25 April 2008 (BST)

And if you're a PKer who kills for some actual purpose, rather than wanting to make people who take the game tooooo seriously cry, then I commend you :)

Don't kill people full stop. Complete pacifist, wearing the garb and group tag of one of the oldest and well known PK groups in the city. That's fun. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:36, 25 April 2008 (BST)

Actually, my favorite PKer group is Red Rum - I actually have considered making a PKer character and seeing if I could join them. They're one of the few PK groups I've seen who actually look fun.

Convert one of your current survivors, it's hell if you start PKing from level 1. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:36, 25 April 2008 (BST)

I just don't find that playing my zombie would be fun if I was being total zombie/Death Cultist, at least while the Dead are on the march. I'd feel like I'm taking advantage of a bunch of cheaters being currently in the game. Even though that wouldn't make me a cheater, i'd feel like one by association. --Tselita 00:21, 25 April 2008 (BST)

Some people, even career zombies, don't like DCing. TBH I only use it as a label for shorthand, I've been working on a philosophy of something very different for a potential new group. Playing a zombie doesn't mean you have to associate with The Dead. I recommend RRF or MOB, I know people in both (as well as a few other hordes) and they'll look after you and make you smile in ways you didn't think possible in this game (see Zoey and I singing and dancing in the middle of a safehouse being destroyed). Once you have a zombie alt, you'll realise where the fun is in this game. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:36, 25 April 2008 (BST)

RE:Recruitment

Hey, I'm no longer looking after that page. Had to give it up to deal with real life stuff. It'd be great if you'd be willing to keep it tidy. - W 23:40, 22 April 2008 (BST)

14 days and out is correct. I used to edit out ads that had minor flaws (using <!-- / -->), and I'd delete ads which breached the major rules. Either way works, you should leave a dated comment under the removed ads header explaining what was wrong. If they don't do anything within two weeks of your comment, just remove the header. Good luck. - W 23:53, 22 April 2008 (BST)

Can I pick your mind?

Hey, I was reading on the posts and you seem to know every dupe ever posted so could I question you on those grounds?Gabdewulf 04:39, 21 April 2008 (BST)

A Zombie respawn, basically when a zombie is killed, they stand up somewhere other than where they were killed, has been already been suggested, right?. Do you remember where or when?

Also, walls or other means of limiting travel and zombie's human memories of building names, what kind of suggestions have been brought about these? Gabdewulf 16:44, 21 April 2008 (BST)

My focus is strictly on Malton. I didn't get into Monroeville because it seemed purely temporary.

Yes it was always designed to be temporary.

While, yes, low levels zombies have to spend a sizeable chunk of the current game day standing up, how many days of game play are lost by pro-suriviors when thier killed? A pro-surivior has to stand up, travel to a rp, and wait and hope that someone is reviving. Also with the current state of the city, a great many of the RP are abandoned. As far as time goes, pro-surivior suffer higher penalties for getting back in the action after death even when compared to a zombie being head shotted every single day. Because at the very least, a zombie gets to play thier character every single day.

You don't have to just go be a mrh? cow at a RP, you could scout, move about, decade overcaded buildings.

Also, its been my experience that very few low level zombies worry about the 2ap traveling by zking, unless maybe thier a meat shield, to get the early skills.

2AP to move hurts, a lot. Also ZKing cuts your XP gain in half, and remaining stationery broadcasts your position to trenchies who then headshot you for more AP loss.

Creedy fell cus the zombies focused on the fort, while the defenders focused on the nieghborgood. And, even with the entire neighborhood's buildings being pretty heavily secured, the zombies just strolled past and started the seige on the fort. And this is the agruement for walls/movement and/or removal of bulding names. The repeated pattern seems the mass of zombies skiping into green neighborhoods, destroying the resource buildings with meat shield tactics, and letting lower levels finish the suriviors.

Erm, no. Creedy fell because forts are death traps. The Bash used the same tactics against a mall and were stuck for two weeks. I should know, I was there. Zombies are supposed to go into green suburbs and eat everyone, that's the point of a zombie apocalypse. You are evidently confusing meat shielding tactics with something else, meat shielding is a survivor tactic. Allowing low levels to gain the kill bonus is entirely legal, survivors could do the same if they got organised.

But even with the current numbers of s/z, the survivours are being crowded into a smaller area. The majority of the city is at the red level and kept there by alts so the survivours can't escape. The overcrowding causes survivours search rate to increasingly reduce, which will cause the city to shrink further. What happends when the zombies finish destroying the city? How many players will/have left by then?

What search rates are you on about? Search rates are at the highest they've ever been since I started playing the game. I remember when it took a week to stock up on ammo. I do that now in a day.

And the agruement about zombie player being a minority is that zombie player, when revive, are PKing. When surivours die, they either zombie or are waiting to revive. gabdewulf 22:56, 22 April 2008 (BST)

Yes, your point? Also, not all zombies PK, the major hordes actually have rules against it. There should be a downside to dying as a survivor, otherwise everyone would have instant revives and we'd be playing Urban PK. And how are you having trouble finding a revive? I have The Big Bash in my group heading and have no problems. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 23:11, 22 April 2008 (BST)

Hey Iscariot?

Hope you realize that I don't actually hold anything against you personally, despite that we might have... spirited... arguments and debates on talk:discussion, k?

*pause*

Oh and 28 days later is a hard science fiction zombie movie, and zombies are dead, not undead. :) --Tselita 20:36, 19 April 2008 (BST)

If you think those are spirited arguments then you live a very sheltered life :P

Zombies are undead, dead things don't move around, zombies do. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 20:45, 19 April 2008 (BST)

(gasp) Iscariot.... Are you... are you no longer the ultimate dupe finding machine? Gatehouse View? I rely on your counsel in all matters dupe-finding! :) Or did you not feel that was a dupe because of the lack of suicide ability? Did you fail me because I haven't gotten you the Doomsday girl yet - I'm trying, I swear. She isn't returning any of the calls. Thanks :) --Tselita 15:09, 22 May 2008 (BST)

You doubt me? The Patron Saint of Dupes? I shall smite thee with terrible vengeance and furious spamming, and ye shall know that I am Iscariot!

I've had a busy week at work and most of my spare time has been spent watching Jericho. It's also a dupe of something in PR, I don't go there by and large, it's full of either sensible ideas, or ones more retarded than the ones in Rejected. Yes, keep working on my pretty thing, you aren't trying hard enough. :P You may substitute Cristina Scabbia if that's easier for you.

On the subject of films, the new Indiana Jones is god awful, avoid at all costs. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 01:29, 24 May 2008 (BST)

Group Deletion

Hey. We no longer delete defunt group pages. As long as no one claims that name for themselves, these group pages can stay there forever. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 20:02, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Re: Keep Votes

There is a small box next to the votes that says:
Votes must be numbered, justified, signed, and timestamped. Votes that do not conform to the above may be struck by any user.
No matter if it's a keep, kill or spam, "THIS GIVES ME A GIRLBONER" doesn't really count as a justification and (as I also put in my reasoning) inane. -- Cheese 19:54, 15 April 2008 (BST)

Mall Tunes

Hey Iscariot, I realize that this has been an issue in the past, but is there any way that we could keep the Mall Tunes section on the giddings page?William Joel 21:07, 13 April 2008 (BST)

are you refering to the whole happykook thing?William Joel 00:19, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Ok you win

I am not going to post anymore on the Bayonet Suggestion. Reading back over everything I think I have been too defensive. So, I came here to say I was sorry. I was incorrect that a "blood groove" assists in the removal of a bayonet from a target. Ok, I was wrong. It is there to reduce the weight of the blade. I am not looking to have problems with you, so I am dropping this issue. As I see it, we had a difference of opinions and that is it. From here on out, I have no issues with you. --Airborne88^T|Z.Quiz|PSS 01:26, 8 April 2008 (BST)

Thanks!

That little rat is sooo cute! And thanks for the message =) That video is hilarious, Rex Manning....total douchebag! Actually, kinda reminds me of Gunther, ooooh you touch my tra la la --Fifth Element 09:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Monroeville

Dear Iscariot , first i would like to thank you for fixing the PPD wiki page. I'm a newbie when it comes to editing the pages but am trying my best . Concerning the target list for WTE our scouts have been in certain areas witnessing and takeing survivor evidence of attacks . I ADMIT we have no proof of it being you guys . It has been speculation so far, as you guys are the most organized in this burb. Concerning this and pov, i will try and tone down the messages left on the burb page . But if you'd like to just tell us where you are to confirm our sightings we will gladly bring donuts ,coffee and little tents for when you are sieging buildings .Hope to keep in touch.--Flub 13:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Your arby against happykook

please, plenty of arbitrators hav offered to arbitrate your case. Please, list all those whom you would agree to arbitrate the case. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 23:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

yeah, totally missed it. Next time move the arbitration to the proper page once you have decided on an arbitrator. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 23:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

The case has started. Please prepare your opening statement.--Seventythree^Talk 09:57, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Giddings

I've locked the page to stop the revert war that has sprung up and I request that you and Happykook take the matter to arbitration to sort this out. Until it is sorted, after I unlock the page, neither of you is to restore or remove the tunes until a ruling is reached on the matter. -- Cheese 23:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to ask that you leave Happykooks edits alone for just now. I don't want this to boil over. Please could one of you bring an arby case so we can begin getting this mess sorted out. -- Cheese 00:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Please leave his edit to the Danger Report stand for now. This needs to be sorted out as I can tell that if it's not, this is going to turn into an all out flame war, which we really don't need. -- Cheese 00:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I know. I'm asking this so that we can avoid name calling and accusations for the time being. Could one of you please make an Arby case so that an arbitrator can get this sorted out. -- Cheese 00:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

You have been served an Arbitration Case by Happykook. I personally will be willing to arbitrate (if you are willing) as I have a clear knowledge of the case and know the grievances of both sides. -- Cheese 23:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

You'll need to pick another arbitrator as Karek has withdrawn an offer. -- Cheese 20:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Aye I'm off the table, however I do recommend you reconsider both Hagnat and Seventythree, they are two users that I would trust to arbitrate a case I'm involved in and I have little doubt they would attempt to settle the dispute in a neutral and proper manner.--Karek^maps?! 02:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Have a template

	Kill It Forward
	This User or Group Kills it forward. Killed in Monroeville? kill someone else!

Thought Id return the favour. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Damn the Man!

are you perhaps an Empire fan? ;) --xoxo 07:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

'shock me shock me shock me with that consistent behaviour'. you said it regarding survivors voting on some suggestion... :P good to find a fellow lover. There's a complete script someone on the net that i occasionally flick through just to amuse myself. We should def get an empire template going...--xoxo 03:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah i used to think that SexyRexy was named after THE sexy rexy, not some random nfl player...--xoxo 00:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

	We mustn't dwell...
	no, not today. We CAN'T. Not on Rex Manning day.

And don't thank me, thank Gina ;) --xoxo 11:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

More A/VB

A few points:

1. Sign your posts
2. Present accurate diff comparisons. Skipping revisions in diffs without providing a damned good explaination as to why is extremely deceptive and is usually an attempt to get another person in trouble for impersonation when none has happened.
3. A/VB is not for asking about things. Go to the talk page of another sysop, or the A/VB talk page to make requests, otherwise it will be seen as a charge and dealt with appropriately. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 16:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

A/VB

"I'm asking for nothing short of a perma-ban."... seeing we didn't permban him, does that mean you refuse to accept the warning? ;) Just a little tip, don't tell the sysops what their decisions should be, or you'll end up being called a back seat mod. BTW, what's happening with the arby case? Chimera gone into hiding or summit? -- boxy ^{talk • i} 08:20 31 January 2008 (BST)

It was late over here, and in typical zed style I was eating harmans and washing it down with a brew of known provenance (Caffery's if you're interested). I just hate sore losers who go for juvenile insults when they've got nothing else. Did you see us doing the same when the Bash stalled?

I haven't heard anything from Chimera, I shall check the precedent in such circumstance tonight and try and get this moving again. -- Iscariot 15:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Arbitration

Thanks for your message. I am a new wiki user, and I am totally unfamiliar with the arbitration process. Could you possibly provide a little guidance for me? I'm not sure where to find the rules and policies. I'm also not sure how I'm supposed to go about choosing the best arbitrator, for all I have to go on right now are user profiles. Is there a way for me to access their past decisions? Thanks! --Chimera 20:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Chimera has accepted you, as have I -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:08 25 January 2008 (BST)

Sorry.

I was looking at those proposals, really liked what I saw, but was put off by the bad use of punctuation. As such, I corrected them in order to make the page look more presentable. I was unaware that this was considered vandalism, and therefore apologise for my actions. Magnum Odus 00:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the rat!

I appreciate it. --Sexy Rexy Grossman 02:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

An alternative point of view.

Just reading your comments on siege descriptions.

Shaun of the dead. None to start with, but when david says there was only a couple before you came here, how many are there here now and di says "lots". You CAN hear moaning and some glass breaking.

Also how about in the winchester after Ed wins the jackpot on Ooh Aah Dracula, and you hear all the zombies groaning before they attack, or before they break through into the celler?

28 days later is not a zombie film. Sorry.

Resident evil. Can't hear the zombies inside the red queens control area. An underground bunker, with laser defences, where even the glass walls of the flooded lab let through only a dull thump and are strong enough to hold back the weight of an entire room of water.. Thats a secret base, under the ground. Designed specially to stop outbreaks moving between sections. So I assume soundproof.

Day of the dead. When outside you can hear them. When down a lift, across a car park and into an underground lab. No sound. That isnt the same kind of distance as the otherside of a hastily barricaded door to a mall.

I of course understand your no x ray vision argument and in all honestly its probably a bad time to suggest it 38% zombies and all that. But hey. opinions.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, let's see:

SOTD - I'd be putting that down to him just having gotten in with the window still open, how many can you hear when Shaun and Liz are talking things over or when they're talking about Shaun getting them satellite?

28 Days Later - Really? I'd love to hear your explanations for this one, as, not to put too fine a point on it, I know film scholars who disagree with you.

Resident Evil - If it was designed to stop infection spreading, RQ wouldn't have killed everyone in the entire base. Also you can't hear the zombies 'sneak up' on them in the underground walkway until they attack.

Day of The Dead - Exactly, you're outside, if survivors go outside in UD they get the information this gives for free, I have no problem, but the action of going outside costs AP. Also in Dawn they are on the other side of a hastily barricaded door in a mall and can't hear a thing....

Barring us disagreeing on our definition of hastily, a fine reposte sir. Good to see that discussion is still alive.

28 days later is not a zombie film because.

• No one says zombie
• Headshots are not required, see various machete attacks, land mines.
• The infected are not dead. Otherwise why would they starve "to death".
• Its a blood transmitted infection, and spit and vomit. Its seems strange to me that the blood of the infected would be so fresh. Are the hearts still pumping?
• The zombie soldier was knocked out, before being tied up. Ever see a zombie knocked out?
• Look at the corpses in the film. The heros parents, those in the cafe, nothing like the infected who barring their eyes, have a very alive appearance.
• As the taxi driver is infected, he slowly looses control of his actions. Hes not alive, then dead and then back, its a gradual process as the virus takes over his body.
• The infected dont consume flesh, they are only infected with rage, the need to infect others, there is no feeding dynamic. Biting is not key.
• The animal welfare people seeing the monkeys believe them to be fine.
• In the sequel theres a women who has the disease, but appears normal. How can she be dead?
• The Infected? Does that imply dead? Or an active carrier?

Have a present.

	Zombie Nazi
	This user is particular about zombie films. 28 days later is not a zombie film.

Now, you can argue its a very zombieish film. But its really a viral outbreak film like quatermass or outbreak. I love monkeys.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh and do you have the DVD? Look at the alternative storyboard ending. where cillian murphy undergoes a complete blood transfusion with the taxi driver to bring him bank and condemn cillian to the life of an infected. That shows he isnt dead. No dead = no zombie.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 22:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I need to mention that actually, 28 Days Later (and the sequel, 28 Weeks Later) -are- zombie films .... but only in the same way that I am Legend is a zombie film. It's a 'hard science' version of the zombie film genre, where they are not actually referred to 'as' zombies and they don't share one Romero zombie similarity - ie, they are not dead. Hard Science Fiction tends to try to do things in a way which is scientifically still plausible - having the dead actually come back to life is not plausible in a realistic setting, but having a population being in a state that mimics a zombified state for all practical purposes IS plausible, hence hard science fiction. It's worth noting that real life cases of 'zombies' in the carribean are also not dead, but rather 'bereft of any will of their own'. But other than the not being dead part, the infected in 28 days later (and I am Legend, and The Omega Man) are zombies, and all three movies are still classified as zombie movies (even the authors of the books which those movies were based on stated that it fell into the zombie genre).--Tselita 18:15, 8 April 2008 (BST)

REing

Hey. Listen. Next time the discussion gets moved to the talk page, can you just continue it there? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 20:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I was expanding my vote, as allowed, for when Kevan would ready that since unfortunately it's heading into PR. It wasn't really discussion, just an expansion and clarification of what I'd already said. But cheers for the multiple fixes. -- Iscariot 20:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

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