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Should be edited to include a link to the Sysop Archives now that they're almost done. Some possibilities:

• Place it at the end of the template, either before or after Discussion.
• Place it adjacent to (probably right of) Sysop List.
• Replace Sysop List with Sysop Archives.

Thoughts/other proposals? Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 22:32, 20 September 2013 (BST)

For now, I'd just add it to the very end, since people commonly look for archives at the end of any list.

In thinking about that nav template though, I'm tempted to suggest (but am not actually doing so, since I haven't thought through the implications) that it might be time to combine some pages. At a glance, stuff like A/D, A/SD, A/D/S, and A/U all have to do with deleting pages, and A/MR is very closely related as well (A/PT to a lesser extent). Why not just have an administrative Page Handling page where people submit their requests for any sysop-level changes to pages and they're processed accordingly, with deletion stuff going to vote when speedy criteria aren't provided, but otherwise everything getting processed at the discretion of the sysops, just as it is now? It'd cut down on nav clutter, user confusion about where to ask for stuff, and the number of archives we're having to keep. —Aichon— 23:06, 20 September 2013 (BST)

I would agree that a few of the links are redundant, but trying to combine nearly everything into one Page Handling page seems to me like it's asking for trouble. It would probably also require a Policy change (am I mistaken or are the various pages Policy-created?)

That said, I do think we could collapse a couple of the pages that are used extremely rarely - A/D/S and A/PT/S in particular. Keep the pages, but put the relevant list on A/D and A/PT, and remove it from the nav template. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 23:17, 20 September 2013 (BST)

Off the top of my head, I know that A/DE was created by policy, but I think the rest were just created as we needed them. Anyway, what sort of trouble? I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just trying to figure out what that trouble would look like, since otherwise we know that the current system is unapproachable for wikinewbs, so being able ot simplify it with a single "Admin Requests" page would be a whole lot easier for them to use. —Aichon— 23:51, 20 September 2013 (BST)

I'm just imagining the boondoggle it would be if different sysops think something should be filed differently. Like, if someone posts something and a sysop thinks it's A/SD, even if it's already received two A/D votes, is it now under A/D or A/SD procedure? That's the first example that popped into mind. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 02:30, 21 September 2013 (BST)

An argument about procedure for its own sake? Say it ain't so, Bob! :P But yeah, that is a problem (it's a current problem, in fact, since we oftentimes have to move wikinewb requests from A/D to A/SD or A/SD to A/D anyway), but it seems like the sort of thing we'd simplify if we were to do this sort of thing, rather than just shoehorning all of the pages onto one page with every procedure left intact exactly as it is. —Aichon— 04:59, 21 September 2013 (BST)

Let's keep A/D and A/SD separate. A/D fulfills a valuable function by providing a venue for deletion where either speedy deletion eligibility isn't clear (as here) or isn't given in the first place. The need to occassionally move cases between the two is öess hassle than the confusion that would arise from muddling the difference between those two pages. -- Spiderzed█ 11:54, 21 September 2013 (BST)

Anyway, we're off-topic. Just add it to the end? Everyone cool with that, or should we add it elsewhere in the template? —Aichon— 04:59, 21 September 2013 (BST)

I vote add it to the end, and we can discuss further changes... eventually Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 05:30, 21 September 2013 (BST)

Just put it at the end and be done with it, -- Spiderzed█ 11:54, 21 September 2013 (BST)

Bump. I submitted the request, so someone else has to carry it out. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 01:27, 6 October 2013 (BST)

Done. —Aichon— 02:05, 6 October 2013 (BST)

Krinks Power Station

I've protected it in the state it originally was in since a pointless edit war was starting up. As should be clear, this is merely a temporary measure until things cool down, so feel free to unprotect it in a day or two if I don't get to it myself. Hopefully they'll have talked it out by then. —Aichon— 03:43, 11 September 2013 (BST)

Note for posterity: The page was not unprotected when I previously stated due to an ongoing arbitration case involving the page. —Aichon— 04:47, 15 September 2013 (BST)

Unprotected. —Aichon— 18:59, 18 September 2013 (BST)

User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig

 <small>[[User:A Helpful Little Gnome|<span style="color: white;background: #7d8f7d;padding-right:8px;padding-left:7px"><small> '''A'''HLG</small></span>]][[User talk:A Helpful Little Gnome|<span style="color:snow;background: #394939;padding-left:5px;padding-right:2px">'''T'''</span>]][[User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Games|<span style="color:snow;background: #394939;padding-right:5px;padding-left:2px">'''G'''</span>]]</small>

Copy paste. Should just be an H to G, Help to Games type of change. Thank you in advance. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:53, 23 July 2013 (BST)

(And the & n b s p ; in front of the sig as well, minus the spaces.) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:55, 23 July 2013 (BST)

done --Rosslessness 23:13, 23 July 2013 (BST)

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