User talk:Xoid/Archive

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	This page is an archive page of User talk:Xoid. Adding comments here will be considered vandalism.

Important Stuff

Mainly for announcements and messages from moderators or arbitrators. Serious stuff goes under this heading.

Private Discussion

Go to http://modofmod.proboards99.com/index.cgi for Mod Discussions Conndraka^{mod T W!} 19:19, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Voting Deadline

Sorry, I was being stupid. It will never happen again. --Changchad ^{WTF•W!•SGP} 22:20, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Promotion

Congratulations on the promotion, and welcome to the Moderation team. Please make sure to go through Moderation/Guidelines, so you know the general guidelines, and make sure to re-read instructions on each of the Moderation pages, so you know the specifics of each. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 15:17, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Thank you. And yes, I will read the guidelines. I'd have to be a numbnut to not read 'em after all my bitching about others not doing the same. (That probably didn't come out the way I meant it.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:20, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Talking about irritating users...

Previous message may be found here.

Nominate it under criteria 11 of speedy delete. --Vista ^W! 15:45, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Talking about irritating users… one of them just got promoted. Go get the adbots you dirty bugger. --Vista 12:57, 28 May 2006 (BST)

It's still gonna be hard to catch up in the score, many a time has an adbot been banned within minutes of it doing something. It leads to rather amusing block logs though. Not as funny as the time where I think about 5 or 6 different mods banned the one vandal on Uncyclopedia within seconds of each other though. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:00, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Minutes? Seconds I would say :D Anyway, congrats! --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 13:11, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Thank you. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:26, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Hey Xoid! We're promotion batch buddies! :D --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 13:29, 28 May 2006 (BST)

I see you didn't forget Karlsbad. Funny I got promoted before you though. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:44, 28 May 2006 (BST)

I'm sure it was just a mistake :P --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 13:47, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Recruitment Page

Thanks for the letting me know and for the revert. I will be checking the history for any updates which may have been lost in it. --John Rove 02:42, 21 May 2006 (BST)

Moderatorship

I'd like to point out that you've been nominated for modship. --Sirens^{T RR} 18:46, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Vandalism

link — Impersonation or changing comments made by other users is considered vandalism, as there are migating circumstances you're not getting a warning but don't do it again.--Vista ^W! 11:35, 10 May 2006 (BST)

I fail to see how either of the alterations to his text can be considered impersonation. Provocation? Yeah he provoked me, but I still did nothing wrong. I did not twist his signed comment's meaning in any way, shape or form.

And if this is about that bolded text up top…

That could not be taken as impersonation by any rational human. The only logical conclusion that could be drawn was:

This "Xoid" who disagreed with Rip purr left Rip purr nasty message up above.

How does making myself look like an arsehole do him any ill, on the contrary it hurts my reputation more. Am I getting threatened with a vandal report for doing something that goes against my interests? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:25, 10 May 2006 (BST)

I know it can't be taken as impersonation by anybody rational, it's just the term we use for altering the tone and/or meaning of a conversational text entered by somebody else. (text formatting/spell-checking doesn't count as long as it's clearly to improve the legibility of the text, without altering the wording.) Now it was clear that your changes were not a big deal for the reasons you gave and some others. Now I was annoyed at him for being a obnoxious little tit and I was at rear end of my luchbreak at work, so my text to you to explain this rule was rushed and not of the tone I'd like it to be. It was more to alert you that that rule exists, (I doubt it is practised in this form in many places.) just like blanking of your own talk pages is allowed here, just extremely bad form. (Certainly in the Codename V case.) And because it was on the talk page that has way too many flame fests I didn't give him the talking to he richly deserves. But that is remedied now. --Vista ^W! 18:43, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Forgot to sign

UDWiki:Moderation/Deletions#Yosemite Sam. Nuff said. Well, and your talk page is confusing. I just put this here since I couldn't think of a better place. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 10:52, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Come to think of it, it is a lil' ambiguous. Ok, so I've signed, and I'm in the process of rectifying the confusing state of this page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:56, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Speedy Deletion?

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here.
COPYEDITED — This part of the discussion has been checked for grammatical, spelling and coding errors that the linked version still contains.

Speedy Deletion?

Under speedy deletions served, for "And These" you said Done. The redirect - The RFM Expeditionary Team is still there. Did you miss it, or did it not meet the criterion? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:58, 2 May 2006 (BST)

Sorry, my mistake. Rectified. --'STER-Talk-Mod 19:34, 2 May 2006 (BST)

Attempt to find resolution and common ground

Because of the near perfect split on the discussion of Language an Offensive Users I created a page where maybe we can find an acceptable solution. If not, well at least I tried. Page can be found Moderation/Locational Language/Interaction I took on the mantle of responsible party so that even the MODs can state thier ideas and opinions. Conndraka 19:06, 22 April 2006 (BST)

Editing the Wiki

If what you want to talk about does not make sense under the other headings — Important Stuff, harsh Criticism, Praise, or Pointless Chatter — then it belongs under this heading.

A better way to strike

Just letting you know that I've created a new template, {{Strike}}, that should allow us to strike comments and other things in a superior way to how we normally strike things. Once the wiki is updated and we can use templates inside of other templates, this will be even handier (e.g., we can use it on the suggestions page). Here's an example of it in action: while right now we ~~strike~~ things, it's even better to strike them in style. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 21:04, 29 July 2006 (BST)

Rhodenbank Locations

First off thanks for the link to the style guide and fixing up the mistakes I made. Anyway I've got a question to ask you, should the Necrotech buildings for Rhodenbank have a single page each (1 2 for example) or be combined like the factories because the info they've got is more or less duplicated? Foxalpha1 03:33, 29 July 2006 (BST)

Suggestion page

speaking of 'speling' and grammer, do you think it would be okay if I corrected mistakes in my suggestion text without changing the suggestion itself? I don't want to edit it if I'm not allowed to now that peopple are voting, but I also don't want it to go to accepted or rejected with a ton of mistakes in retrospect. -- John Teabags 06:59, 28 July 2006 (BST)

Correcting spelling and grammar mistakes is specifically permitted, so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to. Just don't change the actual content of it or someone will remove it very quickly. Also: please note the notice at the top of my talk page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:04, 28 July 2006 (BST)

Thanks for being the self-proclaimed "grammer nazi" that you are. I'm constantly having a go at my mates for spelling crud, then i go and do something as dumb as that. heh, whoops. -- RWXSM 01:05, 15 August 2006 (BST)

If you'd like to know why...

See here. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 19:25, 27 July 2006 (BST)

Question

What loophole are you talking about? As far as I know there is no loophole to spamminate the Spam Vote Value petition. --Karlsbad 04:49, 27 July 2006 (BST)

Darth Sensitive's Signature

he is using Darth Sensitive ^W! as his signature. He needs to die, please back me up in telling him so. The conversation is on his talk page. We may have to start a petition to make him change it. If we cannot do that a policy vote on images in signatures may be in order. --Gage^CFT 01:48, 27 July 2006 (BST)

I'm just letting you know that you make PacMan cry. He will no longer be able to save you or the wiki from Blinky, Pinky, Inky, and Clyde. But as a token of good will, he'll live on on your talk page. http://wiki.urbandead.com/images/6/6b/Pacman.PNG --Darth Sensitive

^W! 04:42, 27 July 2006 (BST)

My Template

	Hell
	This user is going to Hell.

put it on your user page already--Gage^CFT 22:06, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Deleted things

Are you talking about the redirects to moderation pages? If so, what's the problem?--Toejam 12:30, 26 July 2006 (BST)

*bashes head against wall* Cyberbob Talk 12:33, 26 July 2006 (BST)

*Bashes Toejam's head against the wall*--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 12:35, 26 July 2006 (BST)

What? Enlighten me. Oh, and sorry for putting this at the bottom of the section, I didn't see the notice. --Toejam 12:42, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Read here, they were deleted once, doesn't that give you a hint that recreating them is unwanted?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 12:48, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Thanks for the link General, though I still don't really understand. Why fix hundreds of red links when a single redirect would suffice? Is there something bad about redirecting into a different namespace?--Toejam 13:07, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Any idea of exactly how much room that red link takes up, in it's long form, repeated over and over? Why not get off your arse and use the shortcuts kindly provided at the top of each moderation page, start fixing the links using those shortcuts, and start lowering the bandwidth requirement of the wiki? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:11, 26 July 2006 (BST)

Resource Building grids

Hi Xoid - you asked "Any particular reason you are wasting your time with those grids? There is a map of the suburb below, complete with links to every location in it." - true, for most suburbs, but when all you want is a snapshot of the resource buildings, why poke through the entire map?

I didn't invent this Resource Building grid - I think I first noticed on the Pescodside page - but I think it's a great counterpart to the suburb information templates and the full maps. I don't think I'm wasting my time at all. Madpilot 10:27, 26 July 2006 (BST)

You, sir, deserve a medal as well

	Xoid's Bob Award
	For bitchslapping the wiki into shape, one shitty page, n00b, and edit conflict at a time.

–Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:33, 25 July 2006 (BST)

NPOV

Figured this would make most sense here. Yeah. The rules are poorly written. But in my experiance even things that have quite a bit of proof are often removed from the NPOV section - in most cases the NPOV section is bullshit and doesn't give nearly as complete a view of the group as it should simply because it seems that only positive things about the group are 'NPOV'. That's sounds reaaal unbiassed (as you can probably tell... I've had a few run ins with this problem >_<)

There are a few exceptions to this but most of these seem to be groups that people have abandoned. --Tethran 21:18, 24 July 2006 (BST)

Klaatu Barada BM*Coughingfit* There, I said it. well, most of it. On a more grown up note, maybe looking back at the original policy discussion about how to handle group page control would help clear this issue up.-That's Why I did your Wife 21:21, 24 July 2006 (BST)

Hey just to let you know...

On the main wiki page it says 'There is one Policy Discussion under vote. All users are asked to vote.' But when you click there is nothing which is currently being voted on :). Want to do if your not busy my moderator friend?--Brendoshi 21:02, 24 July 2006 (BST)

Did I Even Look

Yeah, I did. I forgot my FauxTML [/sarcasm] tag at the end. Could I get away with sticking them in? --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 15:28, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Yes, actually. I can't think of what it is off the top of my head, but your comment seemed too light-hearted to be sarcasm. Forgive me if I'm not as quick on the uptake as usual, it's late, my eyes feel like they're bleeding, and I've got a throbbing headache. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:32, 23 July 2006 (BST)

It's cool. And they're now there. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 15:39, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Can I ask though, what the "T" stands for in FauxTML? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:41, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Nothing, really. I just don't think that "FauxML" does as well as "FauxTML" at evoking the thought of HTML. Or, I could use </sarcasm> and have it be fake wiki markup. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 15:55, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Why bother trying to evoke the thought of HTML? There is SGML, XML, HTML, notice the pattern here? Markup Language is quite common, where as the other is not. I myself refer to wiki markup as WikiML. Meh. A pointless debate, but what do you expect from an insomniac like myself? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:58, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Eh. Because HTML is the only one I'm even mildly proficient in. And I know what you mean about insomnia. Some nights I'll just troll here and Wikipedia, following the pretty blue links. Hmm... what would fauXML tags look like? --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 16:01, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Like, WTF? If anything you're too pleasant. You don't troll. You might trawl through them, but that's a different word entirely. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:04, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Hmm - #2 on that page is closest to my meaning. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 16:08, 23 July 2006 (BST)

What d'you know? You learn something new every day. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:14, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Indeed. I haven't yet learned my "one thing" yet. I do wonder what it will be. --Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 16:16, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Searching Explanation

on the talk page of UDWiki:Searching back in may you said you would do something within the week. I'm not entirely sure what you intended, but you asked to be messaged if you forgot, so I am. --Ybbor 23:17, 22 July 2006 (BST)

Re: Boo

Hey Xoid. Ok 2 quick questions, I seem to have figured out the journal, Is there a way to edit the name? Mine says Journal: John Blast, I'd like it to be Journal:John Blast like everyone elses. If not, it's cool I can just leave it. Next I see that you left me a message on the journals talk page, except I didn't see it on the discussion page for the journal. Was it automaticaly created? if so, how do I get to it? Thanks. --John Blast 05:59, 22 July 2006 (BST)

First off thanks for the help so far, second what did you mean by use the preview button more often? Did I make a mistake somewhere? --John Blast 22:49, 22 July 2006 (BST)

Because "display: inline" makes me happy

Who doesn't like a little inline code sometimes? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:22, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Because that's what <code> is for. The {{code}} template was primarily added since it looks similiar to what a leading space would do, but isn't as harsh on the eyes. I mean, Uncyclopedia uses it for it's intended purpose, but I certainly haven't. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:25, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Correct, but if you haven't noticed, people have been using {{code}} when really they should be using <code> — because it sets things off nicely — but suddenly having a block-level element inline with a bunch of text looks like shit. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:30, 20 July 2006 (BST)

People are too dumb to use HTML and WikiML at the same time. Why am I not surprised. Hopefully Kevan will update MediaWiki. If he does, we can use {{CodeInline}} inside other templates. And I could finally sign by using ~~~~ on the suggestions page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:34, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Oh, that would be a glorious day. And it's coming. In fewer than two weeks. See Kevan's talk page. :) –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:39, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Oh I know that it was pending, but he might still might get run over by a bus in the meantime. :-p –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:41, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Project Welcome

Hi! As I check Special:Recentchanges a lot when searching for newbies, I found out that you are one of the very few that actually spends some time sparing tips for the masses. I don't know why you didn't want to join the project, and it's ok for me, but you may want to check out this template. If you want to improve on it, you're welcome to do it. And yes, I copied that signature button tip out of one of your own tips =D --Matthew Fahrenheit ^{YRC | T | W!} 19:09, 18 July 2006 (BST)

You know you wanna

Brainstorm FTW. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:39, 18 July 2006 (BST)

Speedy Deletion Archive

I had a look at the history. Interesting diffs by Cyberbob... [1] [2] and [3].

I pulled the missing stuff from the history and placed it into archive. Diff here. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 20:14, 11 July 2006 (BST)

Redirects?

I notice that your turning "#Redirect [''insert page name'']" into "#REDIRECT [''insert page name'']". You do realize that there's no difference, don't you?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:42, 11 July 2006 (BST)

I had basically opened up every tab with the ones that needed to be changed, and it was only after I finished saving that I noticed that a few of them had already been gotten to in the mean time. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:44, 11 July 2006 (BST)

Ok. I'm surprised you didn't get an edit conflict?--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:45, 11 July 2006 (BST)

MediaWiki seems to have taken a perverse disliking to me lately: I have been getting edit conflicts when nothing has changed, and not been getting them when something has, as well as everything inbetween. Extremely frustrating. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:47, 11 July 2006 (BST)

I can imagine......--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 13:49, 11 July 2006 (BST)

Insert A Title

I think I just killed the suggestions page, very sorry, I have the page (before I touched it) cached, can someone help me fix it, my name is cockbeard I am a fool, I fully expect flaming but I'd rather fix the wiki first and take the abuse after, can someone please help me easier to use messenger cause I don't understand this wiki-stuff ben.usaf@ntlworld.com Cockbeard 10:37, 10 July 2006 (BST)

Proof that Our Time Is Here

{{SecretShadowGroup}} –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:26, 10 July 2006 (BST)

Template

Man, you have just up and disappeared. What happened? Oh, and: {{GoodOldDays}}. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 00:28, 9 July 2006 (BST)

Good ole days? I ain't an old timer. While I may know of what happened, it wasn't because I was there, it's merely because I've been quite fastidious in my studies. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:29, 10 July 2006 (BST)

Abstain section

Why did you add a section for abstain votes to the policy discussion? The rules for that page say that "Only for and against votes are valid," so I assumed that abstain wouldn't be valid. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 17:39, 7 July 2006 (BST)

Damnit. CNR. Odd Starter included one for his policy, so I thought they were legit. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:50, 7 July 2006 (BST)

I'm always careful to ask instead of accuse in cases like this, because you know how this wiki is so great at keeping its policy pages accurate. ;) On a different note, have you noticed a sudden drop in activity on here lately? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 17:52, 7 July 2006 (BST)

Definitely. I can log in once per two days and nothing has fallen apart. ;-) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:11, 7 July 2006 (BST)

Resurrecting Deleted Pages

Is it possible to retrieve pages that have been deleted, if I know the name of them? For example Shackleville Buildings. --Boxy 13:22, 6 July 2006 (BST)

Received and understood Boxy 00:03, 7 July 2006 (BST)

Fist Inclusion

Seeking to engage in discussion on Template talk:AllAvailableItems on whether fist should be included as an available item. Ybbor 20:04, 2 July 2006 (BST)

Thanks for the date

Thanks for the date for Template:Timeline, :)

and at the same breath, oh dear History so so screwed...

(This is an implied last ditch you know what):( --Akimbomidget 14:54, 1 July 2006 (BST)

Meh?

For the Template:Timeline Template page which is used in History and hopefully other pages, i have a one question.

What was the exact date that this "Amazing" guy got banned?

The exact quote so far for this section i need to change is...

(cite date)

Wiki Liberation Day

(Amazing Got Banned)

Cheers. --Akimbomidget 12:29, 1 July 2006 (BST)

Question about the deleting on Stanbury Village

I just noticed you deleted my entry concerning Stanbury Village, (and I do realize I am new here)...umm why? If you don't believe I will have screen shots taken of the interior and exterior of each section of the suburb. I am sorry but I can't see why this suburb would be considered remotely dangerous at this point. CYossarain 19:48, 1 July 2006 (GMT)

50+ zombies. That's all that matters. Sonny Corleone ^WTF 20:55, 1 July 2006 (BST)

Helping on the suggestion's page

Hey, i have voluntereed to help Bob on the suggestion's page here, but as stated there, we considered it wise to ask a moderator before i should be given right to strike out votes and such. So, here, with my promise to do my best to help and not be part of the trouble, and try to don't overstep my bounds, I offer my help in such affairs as i check the suggestions page quite often (almost all not quickly spammed suggestions have my votes lately). Tell me what you think. --Matthew Fahrenheit 07:46, 1 July 2006 (BST)

As long as you avoid the trolling votes, which the rules (idiotic as they are) prevent regular users from touching, you have no problems from me, and unlikely to have any from the other moderators. The less work we have to do, ;) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:31, 1 July 2006 (BST)

ULC Wiki Page

Hi Xoid, just in response to your message on the ULC discussion page. I can't seem to find how to make pages subpages. Can you point me in the right direction or tell me how to do it just so it all keeps it nice and tidy.

Cheers. Pillsy 16:20, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Template problems

If you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate it if you would take a look at this and weigh in. Thank you! –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 03:26, 29 June 2006 (BST)

New Groupbox template

I've always found the {{Groupbox}} template a bit ugly, so I sat down and created a prettier, more XHTML/CSS-y version. Let me know what you think, and how I'd go about proposing a vote on whether or not my version should take over (since so many pages use the template, I think it's fair that the community should have a say in this kind of change). –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 18:26, 28 June 2006 (BST)

Insertion exploit doesn't seem to work from default namespace

I initially tried placing our recruitment template on the non-talk page but using the expression {{Josephine's Generals/Recruitment|dt=whhenever}} causes the engine to search for the page in the Template: namespace. The form {{Talk:Josephine's Generals/Recruitment}} works in much the same way {{User:Xoid/sig}} does. ??? I didn't understand why but plunking the Talk: in there worked like a charm. See Josephine's Generals/Rec as used here Template:Josephine's Generals/Rec. I didn't particularly like the Talk: form either as it reeks of confusion. Thus the patter on the page about not posting discussion on the talk side... --Max Grivas ^JG,T,P! 10:20, 28 June 2006 (BST)

Hey, that colon thing is sweet! Thanks for the clue. I'll switch it around and put the others up for a speedy. --Max Grivas ^JG,T,P! 10:31, 28 June 2006 (BST)

Vandalism?

If you've ever wanted to report Labine50 for vandalism, I think this might be your chance. I'm not willing to risk it myself, with my current bid for moderator, but take a look at his comment. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 23:13, 27 June 2006 (BST)

Other gems in other suggestions as well. Idiot. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 23:18, 27 June 2006 (BST)

Locationblock/Suburbblock Links

I've been working extensively with Bob's {{Suburbblock}} and wanted to get some feedback on matters of style. If you have time, take a look at Barrville#Suburb_Map or Wykewood#Suburb_Map. I have been producing the maps so that blocks which often have there names altered as per the Style Guide display the name as they would be seen in the game yet link to the page as directed in the guide. Wanker Building would be 'the Wanker Building' when viewing the map but the click through would carry you to 'The Wanker Building' and similarly for St Whoever. There seems to be a great deal of inconsistency in how these presented and linked on many 9 block maps currently in place. Do you have any specific thoughts on how these should appear? --Max Grivas ^JG|T 07:29, 27 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks for Reverting

Thanks for reverting the suggestions page; I didn't know where I made a mistake, but it made the page below that spot not appear. Thanks again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qhiiyr (talk • contribs) .

Deleted my suggestion

I noticed that you deleted my suggestion for static on radios when they are destroyed at suggestions. Was that an error, or did you mean to? And if you did, why did you? I noticed that a few paragraphs above my suggestion were deleted as well (and it broke midway into another suggestion), so it could have been an accident. Please let me know so I can restore it if it needs to be restored (or you can if you feel like it). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qhiiyr (talk • contribs) .

Note - this is the edit Qhiiyr is referring to. Cyberbob Talk 10:23, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Yep, that's the one. --Qhiiyr 10:25, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Ha! You can never be annoyed at me again when my browser does something like this, Xoid. 'Cause it looks like the same thing just happened to you. Cheers! Cyberbob Talk 10:28, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Just got another conflict (ahem!) from posting this:Yeah, I know, different pages...I got a conflict while Cyberbob Talk was posting. Understood, and thanks for restoring it. Haha, conflicts, conflicts. Thanks to both of you.--Qhiiyr 10:29, 25 June 2006 (BST)

Stanbury Village

It doesn't go anywhere. It's in West Grayside already but that guy keeps putting it on Stanbury Village for some reason. Despite it not belonging there. Sonny Corleone ^WTF 16:28, 24 June 2006 (BST)

Started adding maps

I've started adding suburb maps to all of the suburb pages (I'm just working my way across the map). I've developed a method that allows me to create the maps easily, so that's not a problem, but the generic buildings ("a warehouse," etc) are not linked automatically to their correct pages (e.g., "Warehouse xx,yy"). There may be other small errors too, but I haven't found any yet. Just to let you know, and if you're ever bored, feel free to pick your favorite suburb and tweak the map to bring everything up to par. I've done the first 10 suburbs so far. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 20:35, 23 June 2006 (BST)

Suburb block

I've created a new template for the Locations project: {{Suburbblock}}. You can see it in action at the Darvall Heights page. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 22:10, 21 June 2006 (BST)

I had looked over that page before I made updates to it, and also looked over other fire station pages. I don't see what your point is. There's not much missing on that page, save for a map of the MFD District, which I personally thought was excessive. And while I do understand that my personal opinion doesn't matter, I looked at other FS pages and noticed that the District maps weren't present on a great many of them. If you could tell me exactly what -should- be added to the location Conolly Row Fire Station, then it would save us from more of this going back and forth. --Marked Grimes 21:27, 20 June 2006 (CST)

Hey hey, I think I got what you wanted changed, changed. Let me know if it needs anything else. --Marked Grimes 23:50, 20 June 2006 (CST)

Location headings in grouped pages

I may be wrong, but the last I checked, it doesn't work too well redirecting to a page with a third level heading. That is why I've been editing all location headings in a grouped page to have 2nd level headings so that #REDIRECT [[Yagoton Cinemas#Caseley Cinema]] would go directly to the appropriate section instead of the top of the page. --Nov ^{W!, M, T} 02:23, 21 June 2006 (BST)

Re: Bad Boy

There is no such rule, actually. The only rule is that if request is moved from Speedy Deletions, then it will have to stay. Preventing authors moving wrongly placed deletion requests before any votes have been placed would be just stupid. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 11:04, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Talk page

Thanks for reverting my talk page. I take it someone is trying to substitute it into some other page? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 18:25, 19 June 2006 (BST)

No idea… I tried looking afterwards if it had, but I know the ASS supporter template was using like 30 or 50 times. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:31, 19 June 2006 (BST)

Short tempered people

…has now been linked properly, methinks. I've also got "some idiot" working on making it more wiki-friendly. In other news, can you believe the hack job some idiot did on the Anstruther page? I swear.--Bulgakov 20:42, 17 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks man, it's been a treat hearing from you. As I noted on the sugg page, my problem is how people are flagged as zergers in the first place. F'rinstance, there were these 4 people, the 'onimoz family' who joined RCDC briefly back in the day. They all had similar names, and they operated together. I asked them if they were zerging. Their explanation was that they're a bunch of students in Mexico City who all share the same computer, which I though was cool, assuming it's true. Do they get flagged as zergers? I dunno. I wasn't really looking for your technical explanation, but I should have made that clearer. Whatever.

Re: this from your last post: "If you want to change that, "philosophy of uncaring" as I call it, then by all means speak up when these arguements start up, and help me make them see the average wiki-goer's veiw point. –Xoid M•T•U! 05:03, 18 June 2006 (BST)"

Well, I bet most average wiki-goers aren't encouraged by being called idiots when they screw up. Look, the guy that made the map will fix it when he gets the chance; I'll just PM him again now to hurry him along. We apologize for our transgression, and hope to have it remedied shortly. I think it looks cool. But I digress. I wouldn't really characterise the mods on this wiki as perpetuating a 'philosophy of uncaring;' but--as long as you're the one who suggested that--maybe you might ponder whether you're not also part of that problem. That's been my experience with you so far, anyway. Not a big deal. I'm aware of the amount of work you do for the UD community, and I respect that.--Bulgakov 07:58, 20 June 2006 (BST)

The map has been moved. I wasn't sure if I should delete it from the 'burb talk page as well. I did. I'm not as concerned about visual consistency as you are.

"When I said "philosophy of uncaring" I was talking mainly in regards to prevalent "There are people without 19" monitors? Who gives a shit!" attitude of more than a few."

Yes, that was clear. I submit that it might also apply to unnecessarily caustic remarks, things like Project Unwelcome, and--well--other shit you do. Again, it's not a big deal.

Did you read the part in the post directly above where I said I was aware of and respect the work you do? If you need to get the last word in, fine, go to it. --Bulgakov 16:14, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Wacky JG Templates

I've looked at Template:BarricadePlan earlier and I just dont like it for my purpose. Thanks for trying to steer me toward a time saver but I would rather tack a whack a learning a little about templates through the process. If I'm unsatisfied with my endeavor after a couple of weeks I'll put the lot of it up for a speedy. --Max Grivas 07:58, 16 June 2006 (BST)

Page edit

Want to edit this section for me and properly XHTML/CSS-ify things? You'll see what I mean. Stupid protected pages.... –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 20:24, 15 June 2006 (BST)

I Get The Picture

As the title says.. I get the picture, though I must ask.. What actual difference does it make, me adding and deleting different parts of my user page. Wether I continually use 'show preview' to make adjustments or wether I just change bits here and there. Already this is seeming to be a pretty damn retarded question, I would like an answer. --Chopper 19:26, 15 June 2006 (BST) The 'help' was appreciated too...

I think I can jump in here, because Xoid and I will have the same answer, I'm sure: basically, every time you edit a page, the wiki software saves a new version. Although the amount of data saved in each version is minimal (basically, the changes from one version to the next), each one eats up a little bit of disk space. Furthermore, each time you save a page, it's reflected in Special:Recentchanges. Lots of edits basically spams that page. The preview button is your friend. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 20:27, 15 June 2006 (BST)

Hullo Xoid. Yes, these entries best explain why using "show preview" is prefered. Seen & understood. I'm new to this Wiki lark- your patience is appreciated. Cheers, Surefoot 23.19 17 June (GMT)

I hear that loud and clear, thanks Bob. I could see the actual question becoming more and more retarded as I typed it out, but every little bit of information helps. So now I know my errors and will bare all in mind next time I make any edits on any pages. As Surefoot said himself, your patience is appreciated. ^.^--Chopper 05:34, 18 June 2006 (BST)

Fire Stations and Police Departments

Well, frankly I think someone went way overboard with the location guidelines. :P I don't see any reason why every location would need to be complete with maps and all that other stuff. Not every location is Dunell Hills Police Department.

That being said, if you want to make an example page for a FS or PD that follows the guidelines, I'll look it over and see what we can work out. If we can get something together that works four our basic needs, at least mostly complies with the guidelines and can be easily summarized and simple for new officers to apply, I'm more than willing to update the recommendations. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 18:14, 15 June 2006 (BST)

Shrek

I wasn't sure if it would only move the talk page. (Yep 8 months here and I haven't moved a single page...) Next time I'll do it the right way.--Vista 16:58, 12 June 2006 (BST)

Buggers

Well, pinkgothic hasn't done anything on the wiki at all since February, so I believe it is safe to assume she has fallen off the face of the planet. So we'll need to recruit some people willing to go through Known Bugs and Bug Reports. I can go through and sort it out and classify it, but I can't do all the moving and stuff. Recruiting time! --V2Blast ^P! 03:51, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Oakes Arms

I have fixed the wanted-board in the oak arms location. Sorry I didn't know that it was prohibited, but it makes sence. --180 Solutions 02:28, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Archiving

Should we archive the disgusting version of Amazing's page for historical reference? I think it could be helpful in the future in case we need to reference this case. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:05, 9 June 2006 (BST)

I don't see why not. Xoid? Cyberbob Talk 08:08, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Not sure. Seems like a good idea to me, but you may wish to ask a couple of other mods first; I don't particularly feel up to doing more than what I've already done. (Archiving it for future reference. Ugh, I'm certain Zod and his Crossman cronies will take it personally that Amazing got the correct punishment, and say he's only archiving it to disgrace Amazing's name for all eternity. Or worse.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:10, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Re: Template

Previous message may be found here.

If you've ever looked at the Starlingtown wiki page, You probably noticed the Starlingtown Power Report. I got the idea off the Maltel page to upgrade the power report page a bit, and that's what I was working on but I had to go and do something else so I just saved and left the work in progress message.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 04:43, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Previous message may be found here.

Sure, I'll go nominate it now. PS, hope this is the right spot.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 04:53, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Editing the wiki is the appropriate place. Important is for non-hostile (towards me that is) stuff that is majorly important. Criticism if for when you feel like verbally abusing me over something majorly important. Editing the wiki is just editing regular stuff, praise is for thank yous, and pointless chatter is for when it don't fit under any other heading. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:58, 9 June 2006 (BST)

I fixed the spelling error, but I can't find the coding error you mentioned.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 01:29, 14 June 2006 (BST)

I've just always liked blue. But you're right it is easier to read that way. Thanks.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 01:43, 14 June 2006 (BST)

I'll have to think about that one for a bit...--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 02:11, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Help

So, when I do browse, select the picturre, you know the deal, it just tells me that message and clears the box with the file path in it… It's pissing me off… —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CaptainM (talk • contribs) .

Hmm. If you can wait, I'll look into it. I'm actually quite busy at the moment. (Send me an email of the picture. My email address is on my user page. I'll check later if I can upload it or not.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:01, 8 June 2006 (BST)

Unknown rule

Hello, im some newbie on the wiki, i respect your work and saw your comments plenty of times. I wuoldn't be here bothering you but i was "commanded" to do so; so, whatever...

I was voting on the suggestion page when i went across a Vomit suggestion. The author, Teksura, was being scolded by A Bothan Spy for replying every kill vote. I asked him (Cyberbob240) on the suggestions talk page where is that rule written, because of the fact that he treathened Teksura to report him if he keeps Re'ing kill votes. He commanded me to ask you for said rule location.

Ah... I didn't "command" you. It was a suggestion, because I didn't know where it could be found. Also, you're an idiot. This isn't a moderator-only privilege. Therefore it doesn't fall under the Misconduct sphere of influence. In any case, threats aren't punishable by anything. Also, if I were to report him it wouldn't be vandalism unless it could be proved that I was just stirring up trouble. Your statement is wrong on so many levels... --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 10:55, 7 June 2006 (BST)

Source — "Reing every kill vote is considered abuse of the Re comment." It doesn't say it's specifically vandalism, but it clearly falls under a bad faith edit (Which is vandalism.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:57, 7 June 2006 (BST)

	Oh Snap!
	Someone just got served!

Cyberbob Talk 10:59, 7 June 2006 (BST)

Ok... looks like i struck some nerve, if not several. --Matthew Fahrenheit 11:18, 7 June 2006 (BST)

Peer Rejected Suggestions

For the suggestion that you moved to Peer Rejected, you need to follow the Peer Rejected Suggestions#Notes for Editors, just so you know. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 17:59, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Suggestions editing

I've been doing quite a bit of housekeeping on the suggestions page (striking out invalid or double votes, moving extended discussions to suggestions, removing spaminated things, etc.), and then I ran across this in the rules: Only moderators may remove troll-based votes and they do so with a strikeout <s></s> in order to preserve the trolling removal for posterity. The voter may contest the strikeout with the moderator that struck their vote out on the discussion page. Only a moderator may remove a strikeout. No one has complained (yet), but am I not allowed to keep watch over that page and keep things orderly? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:44, 4 June 2006 (BST)

This rule would probably get enforced a lot more often if there were about 3 or 4 moderators looking over the suggestions page at any one time. The rule seems to be in regards to striking out and removing the striking out of trolling only. Much more likely that this is merely a loophole. If you want to, you can continue to strikeout and remove striking out as long as the vote isn't trolling. You probably want to ask someone else — I can see the technicality, but I openly acknowledge it as a technicality. It still seems against the spirit of the rule to do your duty and actually help. (Which I think is stupid, but, yeah.)–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:52, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Alright. I'll continue to do my pseudo-moderator (someday!) duty, but I'll point another mod to this page and ask for a second opinion too. Any idea about what other mods are online this time of day/night/afternoon/morning/whatever? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:57, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I'm on. As long as you just strike out invalid (that is, anything other than a Kill, Keep, Dupe or Spam) votes, you should be fine. Try to exercise some discretion, though. Don't get carried away. Cyberbob Talk 09:12, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I'll either be very cautious, or not do anything at all (although it pains me to see stupidity go free). I've pointed Jedaz here as well to get his opinion. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:14, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Yeah, I'ld have to agree with Bob. I don't think anyone would mind you striking out the invalid votes and moving the discussions ect. However just to protect youself I'ld suggest not striking out the trolling votes. But I belive you should be safe if you just stick to the stuff that has a clear line on whats acceptable and whats not. - Jedaz 09:24, 4 June 2006 (BST)

OK guys, thanks for the vote of confidence, I appreciate it. :-) When in doubt, I'll leave it alone and/or point one of you towards it. Just to ease my mind, where would you draw the line between "invalid vote" and "trolling vote"? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:27, 4 June 2006 (BST)

An invalid vote is one that either has a weird vote name or doesn't give reasoning. A trolling vote can be either valid or invalid, but also involves insulting the suggester/another user. --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 09:32, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Eh, fuck it, removed my comment. Cyber had a much better definition than I did. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:36, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Okay, thanks again guys. I'll continue to work, and when in doubt, I won't do anything. Appreciated again. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:39, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Wait, I forgot, I have another quick question. How about double votes (e.g., Dupe/Kill, Keep/Spam, WTFZombies/Dupe/Keep/Kelp/Kelp/Kelp or whatever other crap people come up with). I've been crossing out the extras (e.g., Keep~~/Spam~~) and leaving a note telling them that they are only allowed one vote, and to change it to something else if they'd prefer the other one kept... okay, or not okay? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:41, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I see no problem with that. Just make sure the first valid vote isn't crossed out, and the rest of the garbage is. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:45, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Wish I could fix it

My raw signature is this: [[John_Ember|Ember]] [[User:John_Ember#MBR_Weapon_Rating_System|MBR]]

If I type it in as this: [[User:John_Ember|Ember]] [[User:John_Ember#MBR_Weapon_Rating_System|MBR]]

It breaks. Sorry, man. Unless you know the secret, I can't fix it. (Note that a link to my user page is still in there, just in the second link). --Ember ^MBR 15:34, 2 June 2006 (BST)

Ember ^MBR 15:36, 2 June 2006 (BST)

It worked for me just then. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:38, 2 June 2006 (BST)

Well, tickle me pink! Seems to have fixed itself. New signature is a go. --Ember ^MBR 15:40, 2 June 2006 (BST)

My best guess is that you just mistyped it when you first tried it out. I'm gonna hate all the f'in red links that'll pop up after you nominate the no longer needed redirect for death by firing squad –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:43, 2 June 2006 (BST)

Adbot score

Um... where do I go to find the tally? I forgot... Cyberbob Talk 14:05, 2 June 2006 (BST)

HAHA! Talk:Vandal Banning –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:07, 2 June 2006 (BST)

From the RK

I'm a little confused as to what you were talking about in my user page, regarding the Klips... Can we discuss it there? As of right now, our two leaders have disappeared off the face of the earth, so I'm pretty much the only one of my group on the wiki. --Flareblade^{RK - RRF} 21:09, 01 June 2006 (BST)

Locationblock template

Is there something wrong with the Location Block Template? They're all seem to be blank throughout the wiki. --Boxy 10:56, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Fixed. Forgot to Subst: my unified bit piece in. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:02, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks. Prompt service :) I wondered what I was doing wrong... then just said f--- it and moved on, only to find them all the same Boxy 11:09, 1 June 2006 (BST)

{{Locationblockmerge}} - talk page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:10, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Typo

I would fix this myself, but it's protected. In Template:Previous_Suggestion_Intro#Comments, it should be spelled "separate," not "seperate." --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 02:11, 31 May 2006 (BST)

I dealt with this, and a number of other issues in the template which I didn't know where even there. Thank fucking god that I've been using the pre tag and that leading space<nowiki>Stuff… day's are numbered. That's an extra bunch of bytes that need to be stored, (which is neglible when compared with how verbose I am) but it's also extra processing. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:59, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Speedy deletions

Is there such a thing as nominating too many things for speedy deletion? I'm really enjoying dredging up crappy pages to be annihilated. Oh, and I thought you'd love this. A little template I made (mostly for my own amusement, but feel free to use it, of course): SpeedyDeleteIt. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 04:41, 30 May 2006 (BST)

I've already got something similiar {{User:Xoid/Deletion Machine}}. The wiki gave out for about 20 minutes for me so I'm still working on merging that page I said I was going to. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:50, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Ha! I like it. (But seriously, is there such a thing as being too zealous over there?) Also, see the bottom of my talk page. For the win. Kthxbye. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 04:53, 30 May 2006 (BST)

Policy thingy

I direct your attention here. What do you think? --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 12:01, 29 May 2006 (BST)

The reason it is there is due to accountability. Lets say I wanted to delete my talk page archive 'cause it shows what a foul mouthed cunt I am. I delete it and poof! There goes all the evidence. (Well, when the database is next purged, anyway.) Situations like that are why the stipulation remains. It's an inconvenience, sure, but I prefer it that way. The power balance is shared that way. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:05, 29 May 2006 (BST)

You make yet another good point. --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 12:07, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Adbot blocking?

I don't know much about where our adbots come from our how we go about combatting them, but I thought this WikiMedia page might be useful information, for domain blocking or something of that nature. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 07:40, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Involves installing an extension to MediaWiki, something I'd prefer to avoid even looking into until I'm settled into my new position. Might not be possible even for moderators though; I'm good with wiki markup, common sense and working with MediaWiki, not adding onto it. (Not yet anyway. Kinda hard to be when you've only been on the job for one day.)

PS: It's a seriously weird feeling deleting crap for the first time. Just… doesn't feel right somehow. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:49, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Really? I'd think you would enjoy getting to really clean stuff out. Although, I kind of know what you mean. I served my first spamination today, and I felt a little bad about it. I could tell the guy wasn't very familiar with the wiki process, and his idea just went down in flames.... --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 07:53, 29 May 2006 (BST)

I enjoyed deleting them, (Adbot detritus, if you wanted to know. I hate adbots.) it's just, it's like stepping into new territory? Meh. I dunno. It's hard to describe. I think it has a lot to do with the "OMFG I don't wanna fuck up!" feeling that is currently coursing through me.

An offtopic extra: this was funny. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:58, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Oh yeah, I think I saw Conndraka link to that at some point too. Funny stuff. I know the "don't fuck up" feeling too. I'm sure you'll do just fine though. Just don't, you know, delete any images that only you find personally offensive. ;-) --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 08:16, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Blinkage

How do you do that cool blink effect without changing the size of the text? --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 13:46, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Through the following CSS: style="text-decoration: blink;". It can be used on most, if not all, HTML/XHTML tags, IIRC. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:48, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Can you do it on a heading? --A Bothan Spy^{Mod WTF U!} 13:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)

==Level 2 Heading==

–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:53, 28 May 2006 (BST)

New guide (possibly)

As you've seen, I've been working on an editing guide (User:BobHammero/Editor's Toolbox) that I hope can be added to the other wiki documentation if people find it useful. I thought you might be interested in this, so if you are, I'd appreciate it if you could take a look at that page, let me know what you think, and make any changes that you think should be made. If you know of anyone else that you think would have some feedback for me, please feel free to pass this on to them too. Thanks. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 06:34, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Heh, I just noticed those typos, and typos shit me as you can probably tell. Um, back on topic; I think it's a very good Ye Olde Quick Reference Manual. Making it part of the Help guide would be a good idea. If I'm permitted to add extras, and other relevant things, I think I might be able to expand on it a little, but by making it a proper Help:_la la title_ page, we might get valuable input from other users. Ain't it always the way? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:41, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Yeah, I have no idea how those snuck in. I'd be happy to have the community at large attack it now (removing things that no one uses, adding things I've forgotten, explaining what the hell some of it means, whatever), so feel free to change whatever you want. I left it under my user namespace just in case the Wiki Gods yelled down thou shalt not create that page, Bob!, but if you think it should journey to the Help namespace, have at it. Just make sure the page redirects, so that the other half-dozen people I asked to look at it don't think I'm a moron. ;-) --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 06:47, 28 May 2006 (BST)

The only issue I see is, as you pointed out, pointless crap that N0 0NE™ uses. As long as any of that gets culled before being moved, I think it would make a good quick reference. The other stuff would be simply for in depth instructions — this guide would serve better for users who are at least intuitive enough to correctly guesstimate how something will work without proper instructions. Or the forgetful, who only need a quick reminder. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:51, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Yeah, I was pretty sure when I was adding stuff in that some things people didn't use, but I figured it was better to add it in and remove it later than to forget that Really Important Thing that someone would want later. You're right about its purpose, too. I really created it for when someone forgets how to insert a Criterion 9 warning or something, or for people who can learn by example. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 06:57, 28 May 2006 (BST)

About an edit of yours...

Previous message may be founder here.

Hey. Thanks for the er.. Informing message left on my page. I read it over serveal times to let it sink in, as I'm baked at the moment. I've taken all points into consideration and will bear all in mind next time I post on anybodies Wiki. And in comparisson to our agreement on the French, you didn't sound arrogant at all. It was a lesson learnt, so thanks for teaching it… Sorry to have left the message in this specific section by the way… In a rush and the title of this section seemed appropriate to leave this message in. So yet again, apologies for inconveniences and frustrations. --Chopper 16:36, 26 May 2006 (BST)

N/P. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:55, 26 May 2006 (BST)

User page

Although it pains me to do this (because this person is using my new template), I just stumbled across Flogging Molly, which is obviously a misplaced user page. The problem is, its content hasn't been moved to User:Flogging Molly (are we supposed to do that so that we can then put this stuff up for speedy deletion?), and the only edits are by someone named Anonymous. Thought I'd throw this your way, Mr. Deletion. --Bob Hammero ^W!•U! 20:47, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Generally speaking, if they have the exact same user name, move it there and speedy it. If it turns out that you moved it to the wrong place, because… well, an example would be better. So without further ado…

EXAMPLE:

User:McSnatherson plays the character Jimbo Bob, not User:Jimbo Bob.
You don't know that, and move Jimbo Bob to the exactly same named wiki account, User:Jimbo Bob.
User:Jimbo Bob asks for it to get speedily deleted 'cause he don't want it. It gets nuked.
User:McSnatherson complains.

Move it (or copy if need be) to Anon's talk page, give him a {{Subst:Crit9warning}}, say why you're giving him the message, place {{speedydelete}} on the page violating Criterion 9 and you're done.

This philosophy may sound a little harsh, but it's your responsibility to do all you reasonably can; not to do everything for them. He should've placed the character on his user page; he didn't read the rules, and you attempted to do your best to clean up their mess. If content goes missing or gets deleted because of their having the exact same character-name as another user has wiki-account? Tough. No one has the right to complain in that scenario.

I hope this advice helps. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:55, 26 May 2006 (BST)

Major overhaul

I'm trying to take on the Darvall Heights page, which looks like it needs major overhaul (grammar, completeness, proper links, up-to-date information, etc). However, there's something I'm not sure about (aside from the deletion question that I posed on its talk page): a large amount of the content of the page is taken up in the "Groups" section, which seems very haphazard and POV. Any ideas about the best way to clean up this section? I'm going to alphabetize it and fix a couple of bad links, but I'm wondering if the POV descriptions belong there at all. Thanks. --Bob Hammero ^{ASS•W!•U!} 21:09, 23 May 2006 (BST)

I'd say that unless the groups happen to be particularly influential, that there is no reason for a blurb of any sort there, and even then, only an NPOV, short blurb saying how active the group is. You may wish to ask others though, perhaps if enough people share our opinion, the crap can be excised. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 01:25, 24 May 2006 (BST)

Alright, no one seems to care much about this page, so I think I'm going to start taking things out and reorganizing and such. I'd like to see the Darvall Heights page be the Best Suburb Page In All Of Malton, and that necessitates removing chaff. How much temporary control can I take over the page? (Moving stuff to subpages, deleting crap, etc). I know it's a wiki, but I don't want people to flip out because "omfg the news is archived" or something. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 19:05, 26 May 2006 (BST)

Hm… not sure as to how much temporary control you can claim. For that part, you probably want to ask someone else. If I had to take a punt… if someone complains, reverts the page or inserts their crap again, you'll have to deal with them. If they proove unreasonable, take it to Vandal Banning or Arbitration.

I'm thinking of whipping up a template saying "This page is undergoing a major overhaul. Please refrain from editing it, yada yada…". Ah, stuff that, I will whip up that template. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:27, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Beat you to the punch, I'm afraid: Template:Maintenance. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 07:23, 27 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Disambiguations

Um, yes it has. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 15:51, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here.

Ah, now I see. Funny that wiki markup doesn't work there. Anyway, I actually changed the wording a bit, and only "fixed" the html to wiki markup as an afterthought. That's why I didn't see anything weird when you pointed it out, I was only looking for the wording change. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 00:04, 24 May 2006 (BST)

Locations List

I'm feeling generous and helpful right now, so before that wears off, I think I'd like to take a crack at helping to expand the Locations List project (especially the Caiger Mall area). Is there anything I should know, or is it alright to set up some stub pages? --Bob Hammero ^ASS•U! 23:03, 22 May 2006 (BST)

Aquaint yourself with Location Style Guide if you haven't already. Otherwise go, for it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:14, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Xoid, wasn't that list just for Disambiguation? That's what I thought, and I've fixed all the Disambiguation pages... -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 11:04, 23 May 2006 (BST)

That list was also for links in the locations list that haven't got the (suburb name) bit after them. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:13, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Right. My apologies... -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 11:18, 23 May 2006 (BST)

No biggie. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:24, 23 May 2006 (BST)

General Edit Question

Hey. Obviously, I'm shit at Wiki Editing, but wanted to start producing templates and the such. Because I just don't have the time, is there anyway I can start creating pages but not publish them as "works in progress?". I don't want embarrassing, half finished efforts on my page. I've read through the wiki but I cannae find nuthin'. Or I just didn't see it. Thanks for the help Don D Crummitt 06:57, 20 May 2006 (BST)

To produce templates, you'll need a bit of minor knowledge about programming. (Very minor, templates are simple.) Knowledge of HTML and the way it works is very helpful, 'cause wikimarkup is nothing but shorthand for HTML. (Just consider every bit of wikimarkup to be "built-in templates".)

The Help:Templates page is good enough to give you a basic knowledge, but I'll still probably come along and optimise your template when I get around to it. (There are so many templates around here that are poorly coded it ain't funny.) You could always try Wikipedia's guide but it may be a little full on for a complete beginner. Stay away from their "advanced templates" guide, even if you think you can tackle it; a lot of that shit is for MediaWiki 1.6+ and we've only got version 1.5. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:04, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Cinema Images

Previous message may be found here.

So how do I make the template so it loads faster? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Satandisc (talk • contribs) .

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That's awesome!!! I'll edit the Cinema pages to use the template!!! Thanks alot!! Satandisc 08:46, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Huff, Destroy, and Annihilate

Previous message may be found here.

Heh, I don't think we'll have any problems understanding your votes. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 01:26, 19 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Starr Building

Previous message may be found here.

Apologies - I'm a bit out of it, and to say the least, this was a pretty bad screw up. I'll go ahead and fix it. If you still have problems with it, feel free to change it accordingly. --Nomader^Talk 07:04, 18 May 2006 (BST) --Nomader^Talk 07:04, 18 May 2006 (BST)

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I thought it best to type it up as a NPOV article to my best ability - or at least better than it was previously. However, I do agree: I have to contact either organization - but for now, the newly edited version I put up will have to stand until I or someone else can get more information. --Nomader^Talk 20:27, 18 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Various Help Pages

Just letting you know I finnally replied. --Sirens^{T RR} 15:24, 16 May 2006 (BST)

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My Navigation Bar

How come it won't show my Arbitration link on my pages, when I've got it as a template on each of them? In preview, it shows up, but not when I actually click Save... any advice? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 09:09, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Have you actually edited and saved any of the pages? (It may be a caching issue, templates are only REincluded when an actual change is made. Which is why until people actually edited pages I've signed on, the U! didn't show up.) There may be other causes though, let me get a bite to eat, and I'll look into it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:21, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Yup, that was it. You need to make an actual change then save. A single space was enough to do it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:26, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Something so simple??? Damn... *in a breathtaking act of flexibility, actually manages to kick himself in the head*

Heh. MediaWiki's a bitch when she wants to be. A stubborn, irritating little bitch. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

PS: I'll take it from here. Thanks. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 09:39, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Sure. I know how you've got the whole "Leave my page alone!" thing going on now. Especially after last night. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:42, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Oh, I don't mind if you edit it with permission or if I've asked you for help. It's when you do it out of the blue that is annoying... but enough talk on such serious matters! --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 09:45, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Alright, an unserious matter then; the Grimley Motel. (Or hotel, I can't remember which.) Do you think he's raided it anytime recently?

And which group do you think has the funniest theme? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:49, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Dunno, and I believe the Channel 4 News Team. I LOVE Anchorman. PS: Don's back online. See his comment under my modship bid. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 09:52, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Grim's Page

The "You got new messages" banner on Grim's page is a prank. Look at his page code. ;) --Sirens^{T RR} 05:03, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Bastard! I should've known… Uncyclopedia's "you've got nude massages" really should've prepared me for this sort of thing. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:10, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Lol. Don't feel bad. I know it's there and I STILL get caught by it every now and then. --Sirens^{T RR} 05:14, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Re: I weep for the space!

Just remember that MediaWiki only stores differences in it's history, not the entire page. The Entire page is held elsewhere, but the history only stores fragments of pages... -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 03:58, 16 May 2006 (BST)

There are still enough changes between the various +newline, spell checkings, etc. that it'll probably take up a significant amount of space. (In terms of what'll be wasted at the end of that project.) Regardless, I weep for the space!

An extra — Maybe the Queer Jews should go move to be near to Gajewski Avenue if they're not already. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:32, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Speedy Deletions

Why have you placed the Speedy Deletion template on Dog Deever's User page? He's not doing anything wrong. I can see why you've done it with Jim Ash and Sam Ervin, but why Dog Deever? PS: When are you going to get around to making a report? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 08:09, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Check the name of the page again. There is space missing in that one. (My stuff up from a little while back. And I'm writing up the report for it and a few others as I speak. Some explaination is required for a few of them.) And did you miss the section at the top? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:13, 14 May 2006 (BST)

OK. What section at the top, though? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 08:16, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Very top of the page. Big bolded letters, with a blinking Notice: prefacing it. Heh, you'll probably be hitting your head against the table for missing it. I really don't want to make it larger than that, as it would look ostentatious. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:43, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Your signature

Previous message may be found here.

I am aware that pipes can wreak all sorts of havok with templates. I just changed it to the dot thingy-ma-bobber, but where on Earth would I be commenting inside a template? Just wondering.

Darth Sensitive ^{talk • W!} 18:19, 13 May 2006 (BST)

The suggestions page. I think there are a couple of other pages as well. Can't remember all of them. If I recall correctly, none of the major areas, apart from the suggestions page, use a template needing you to sign inside of it. Not 100% sure on that though. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:19, 14 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Speedy Deletion Round 2

Previous message may be found here.

I recreated the page as I was told to how I was told to, so what's the problem? I fail to see how creating a page under my group's home page constitutes as vandilism. I understand the first deletion because it was out of place, but then you deleted it and said if I made it again I would be written up. I fail to see how that works. Please explain or I'll have to go to another mod and have you written up for vandalism, and I don't want to do that.--GrayscaleRain 22:45, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Eh, I just external linked to the page. I just don't understand why you nerfed the redirect and got so pissy about it. Just be a little nicer next time. --GrayscaleRain 22:56, 12 May 2006 (BST)

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Thanks for the message. Sorry if I sounded... er... pissy. ^ ^;; I'm just trying to run my group's wikipage as best I can. I sort of fell into this position and I'm just trying to do a good job. I added a link on the AoD Page to the User:GrayscaleRain/Daniel Kilbane page. Is that alright? If not I'll just move the profile under the User:GrayscaleRain page as a subsection. That way there won't be any more conflicts. I try to be on my best behavior as far as wiki activities goes. I don't edit anything other than the pages I'm related to and I don't bother other people. I just don't understand the "legalities" of certain processes and procedures. Sorry for being a pain! X3 --GrayscaleRain 23:01, 13 May 2006 (BST)

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Groupbox

I instituted your full CSS version there. It looks like it hasn't killed the wiki yet. --Zaruthustra-Mod 19:38, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Finally. (Not that you took a long time, but I've wanted to fix that since I signed up.) Thanks for that.

P.S. just noticed that you didn't uncomment the category. That was so that the user subpage didn't show up. I probably should've mentioned it earlier. Sorry 'bout that.

–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 19:52, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Deleting // bad Page names

I figured it out. They can be deleted, it just requires a touch more effort. See Help:Special Case Workarounds to see the details. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 06:51, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Odd, please note the bolded text at the top of the page: "Newest Subheadings at the top". I'd prefer older things to drift to the bottom. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:14, 12 May 2006 (BST)

My mistake. I'll keep it in mind. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 08:29, 12 May 2006 (BST)

B.L.A.D.E

My group page is my group page. I'll deal with it as I see fit. Don't think that I'm trying to be offensive. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MajesticNinja (talk • contribs) .

Re: Your User Page

No worries. Well, you did make it a but more easier to get a overview... when i am done i will ask you to take a look. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nox 777 (talk • contribs) please sign your name and place a timestamp..

Re: From Xoid

Previous message can be found here.

Well the answer is simple. I felt it nessacary to make the page accurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Agent White (talk • contribs) when responding, you should link your name, place a timestamp..

And one of the Pathetic Bills ended up complaining. See? I knew that something like this would happen. If a newbie gets a bounty put onthemselves for pking, then they get killed. Plain and simple. It may hurt, but learning their lesson the hard way means they're less likely to pk again, unless they want to become a serious and full time pker. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:15, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Redirects

First part of discussion can be found here

At least for me, on both FF and IE, the link doesn't work. So, for example, First Aid Kit takes me to Useful Items, while the redirect is actually to Useful Items#First Aid Kit. Now if it does work for you... well, that's just bizarre. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 10:22, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Next part of discussion can be found here

Tables

I'm quite pleased to have found that wikimarkup automatically adds " around numbers when parsing attributes to be included into the table. So there is no need to surround the numbers with quotes in regard to things like colspan=2. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xoid (talk • contribs) and he can't be bothered making the timestamp..

Wiki Timeline

If you wanna work on it, message me.--Vista ^W! 08:19, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Conversation continues here.

Edit Summaries

Unsurprisingly, edit summaries are treated differently to regular pages. XHTML entities like < and > are unable to be entered. [[Category:Childish Mysognistic Humor]] can't add your summary to that category, and transclusion – (templates and anything similar to my signature) {{17|X}} – doesn't work either. Nor does basic formating options, like '', ''' or '''''. This is rather curious… on another wiki I was using, it bolding and italicising text worked in edit summaries… —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xoid (talk • contribs) Can't be bothered finding the date..

…and then suddendly stopped working. Is it due to the way they setup the mediawiki software? No idea. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xoid (talk • contribs) and he can't be bothered making the timestamp..

Re: XHTML vs HTML

First part of discussion may be found here.

Apart from generally asking people nicely... no. We can't really enforce XHTML usage, considering how simple it is for most people. There's always the possibility of building a bot that can tweak specific HTML into it's XHTML equivalent, but other than that, there's no real way to enforce an XHTML standard. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 15:02, 23 April 2006 (BST)

It just occured to me, that you may want to know where such a bot may exist. Vasi had a full script setup somewhere in his userspace, I think at User:Vasi/Scripts. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 15:12, 23 April 2006 (BST)

How exactly do you set up a script anyway? If you have a link to wherever MediaWiki stores that sort of info, I'd be very gratetful. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:34, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Suppose I'll have to dig it up myself then. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:41, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Sorry for the lack of reply. Scripts typically run on a command prompt, typically on something like a linux box. With that said, there are usually environments for windows for any given scripting language. Basically, you'll have to find a Python for Windows environment, and set up the script through that. Alternatively, find a webspace with all this installed and run it through that... -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 04:48, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Python? Joy. I'll literally have to dig out the manual for that. At least I know where I can find a Python server for Windows — as for Linux, I'm not touching it until I get a copy of Linux for Dummies™… 'cause the man pages have done nothing to help me. Anyway, thanks for the reply, even if it was late. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 04:56, 3 May 2006 (BST)

At least, I think it's python. I seem to recall that python scripts have a .pm extension, but I may in fact be wrong, and python instead has a .py extension. I don't typically use python myself... -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 05:55, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Howdy Cat

Hello there Xoid. I'm looking to speak with a member, any member of The Gingerbread Men. I noticed you did some minor repair work on their page, and though I know this means you may have nothing to do with it, i was hoping you could help me out either with a name i can post on the discussion board of or that you are indeed a member of the GBM (though judging from your character classes, I doubt it). The issue is related to a revive point in West Becktown. Thanks for anything, oh and thanks very much indeed for fixing up the 5th November template. Rip purr 02:03, 22 April 2006 (BST)

I know plenty about gingerbread men, but only 'cause I really love gingerbread. I take to it like some people take to chocolate. Apart from that, anything releated to Gingerbread Men is beyond me, sorry I can't help. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

Note: I now have a vendetta against this user. See my user page as to why. And the Vandal Banning areas. And the criticsm section of my talk page. I ain't proud of the way I reacted, but it doesn't alter the fact that he was in the wrong. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:15, 11 May 2006 (BST)

My Signature

To anyone wondering how it works:

Something you might want to look into using, is a signature like the sort that I've got. You can see here for how I've done it: User:Xoid/sig. I'm assuming that you already are using a raw signature. My "nickname" under preferences is {{User:Xoid/sig|, so when signing things, all I have to do is type ~~~}} or ~~~~}} and I can get all the fancy stuff, like a minature ^talk or such. The best part of it is that if you change your signature, it's retroactively altered. (This can also be a drawback, but I'm looking on the bright side for once.)

I find it kind of ironic that I'm talking about this as if I'm extremely knowledgeable in it... I only figured it out yesterday. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

One question: Do you know if the sig is supposed to work within templates? Like, for example, suggestions template? Or maybe better question would be: Does Mediawiki support nested templates? When tested with User:Brizth/sig it breaks the template. --Brizth ^W!M 16:14, 20 April 2006 (BST)

You might want to try using {{Subst:Template Name Here}}. It may work, or it may not. I've seen wikimarkup ninjas do truly ~~Amazing~~ amazing things, but I admit that I'm not that skilled with wikimarkup. It'd help if the documentation for templates wasn't so... abhorrent. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

What was the parameter you had to add? I didn't have to add anything, and mine works fine as well as I know. --Sirens^{T RR} 19:13, 20 April 2006 (BST)

Just a {{{1}}}. That way I can do as I've described above. That way, you don't have to type {{User:Mia Kristos/sig}} ~~~~~ if you've set it up like — User:Xoid/sig — is at the moment. If you want to talk to people who know this far better than I do, you could always try bugging the folks at Uncyclopedia some of them are extremely knowledgeable in regards to wikimarkup, and getting around the limitations inherit in MediaWiki. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

Ah, I see what you're talking about, but I already got around it. If you look at my signature page, I have ThisBeMySig followed immediatly by <noinclude> tags on the same line. That way, there are no line breaks in the signature, and I can still use --~~~~ as normal. Isn't that neat? ^_^ --Sirens^{T RR} 23:54, 20 April 2006 (BST)

To ensure backwards compatability, and due to general laziness, my nick is now simply {{User:Xoid/sig|}}. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:29, 1 May 2006 (BST)

Criticism

The complaints department. Serious grievances with me go under this heading.

From Amazing

RE: Mrs Amazing

Leave me the F alone.

Sincerely,

Amazing 03:05, 29 May 2006 (BST)

It wasn't meant to earn your ire, Amazing. Your sense of humour is lacking. You are overly sensitive about a parody. Hell, you could even join in and get some fun out of if by including her in your character's backstory: "She's my evil twin sister. I must kill the bitch at all costs." –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:22, 29 May 2006 (BST)

My sense of humor is fine. My patience for consistant mockery and insult is lacking. -- Amazing 03:37, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Alright, an actual reason. I can accept that. My apologies. I still think it'd be hilarious if you took the ball and ran with it though. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:41, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Note: If he actually decides to continue "contributing" here, expect this section to grow in leaps and bounds. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:59, 4 June 2006 (BST)

From Love Duke

Previous message may be found here.

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here. COPYEDITED — This part of the discussion has been checked for grammatical, spelling and coding errors that the linked version still contains.
What didn't I sign and why is me not previewing causing a problem? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Love Duke (talk • contribs) .

Your name here, for one. If you read what I wrote, you would have noticed the stress that I put on "properly". Including, not only a timestamp, but a link back to your user page. The reason it's not linking is most likely because you are using the "raw signatures" feature, and are using Dr. Love Duke instead of [[User:Love Duke|Dr. Love Duke]] within the field.

As an addendum, did you read the notice at the top of my archive, noting that it was an archive? Please be more observant in the future. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:11, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Oh yeah, to answer your question about the preview button; what do you think the "save" button does? It saves a copy of the page, referencing all the changes between the current version and it's predecessor. Constantly making small changes chews up valuable disk space. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:50, 28 May 2006 (BST)

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Dog Deever

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here.
COPYEDITED — This part of the discussion has been checked for grammatical, spelling and coding errors that the linked version still contains.

About this page, and this page… (The links will probably be dead by the time you read this.)

Please do not place articles about yourself or your characters in the main namespace. If you wish to write about yourself or your characters, the correct place to do it is in your User space (ie User:Xoid/Archive). The pages you have created have since been moved to their correct places.

It might help to look at the wiki's namspace policy and the speedy deletion eligability criteria so that you don't make similiar mistakes again. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:54, 13 May 2006 (BST)

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Firstly, thank you for moving my character stuff to it's correct place, a mistake on my part which couldn't have caused much problem as it only went on last night/ early in the morning.

Secondly- who the hell made you a moderator? Your rude and abusive behaviour on your own pages toward people who are just as entitled to play the game as you are is unacceptable. The random abuse that you throw at new users is very unwelcoming and shows you up to be a bit of a superior asshole. Some of us have lives and therefor aren't that clued up on how to do these things, simply because our lives are full of more important things than how to work a wiki. A simple notification of the error is fine, and i have now deleted the page in question.

I've only been on the net for about a month and a half or so, is that something i have to apologise for? Well i'm not going to. Incidentally, it's ok for spammers to post up shit about 5th november on peoples group pages that you cant seem to get rid of? But woe betide if you put something in the wrong place!?! Get a life you anally retentive tosser. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dog Deever (talk • contribs) ~~the dip shit~~ did sign eventually, but didn't add a timestamp.

Why don't you shut the fuck up. I'm not here to fucking babysit morons like yourself who fail to read the fucking manual.
"…just as entitled to play the game as you are…" — fuck off. Read up on the guidelines for user pages — I can and will write whatever the fuck I like on my user page. And I don't care what you do in game, on the wiki is different. You abide by the rules, and you don't pick fights.
"…Some of us have lives and therefor [sic] aren't that clued up on how to do these things, simply because our lives are full of more important things than how to work a wiki." — again, fuck off. It's not hard to read the help pages that are linked to on the front page. It's not hard to read up on the guidelines before you do something stupid. And about "Some of us have lives…" — yeah, I do have a life. And therefore I've got better things to do than babysit some dipshit like yourself.
"…very unwelcoming and shows you up to be a bit of a superior asshole." Check the ^U! in my profile dumbcunt, I'm not here to make you happy. And yes, I am superior, because I have the neurons required to know that reading the fucking policies that the wiki has is a good idea.
"i [sic] have now deleted the page in question." — you haven't you inbred little fuck. Users can't delete jack shit. Only moderators can.
"I've only been on the net for about a month and a half or so, is that something i have to apologise for?" — Yes, it is. I've been here for less than a month, and the only things I've had problems with so far has been fuckwits such as yourself, and a spurious vandal reporting from a lying sack of shit who used multiple wiki accounts to get around the rules. You on the other hand, have not bothered to read the documentation, have not bothered asking more experienced users for help, and have not bothered to note that I don't give a fucking shit about your feelings. For the fifth time; I'm not here to babysit you, and it's your responsibility to learn what you should and should not do. Why should other people have to clean up after your mess?

I gave you a nice, formally worded message, using the template the head moderator created to tell you that you were comitting a no-no. So you start flaming me about your own incompetence and unrelated issues.

About the 5th of November; that dumb imbecile was the one spamming, and I can't do jack shit about it if the moderators are all offline, and don't give him his official warning. By the time they were online, he had already finished his spamming, so the warning after the fact did little. And if you read the archive, you do know how to read, right dumbfuck?, I was less than pleasant to him. The berating you are getting now is down right pleasant in comparision. If you want flaming, you stupid cunt, you've just gotten it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:09, 13 May 2006 (BST)

I did not complain about the message you sent, you fucking computer nerd. It was the abuse you deal out to people. In reality it would have taken a lot less of your precious time if you hadn't typed the abuse you sack of arsegravy. You seem to think everyone but yourself is retarded, maybe it's an inferiority complex that you have, you braindead arsehole. If you spent less time hurling abuse at people maybe folks would actually give a shit about anything you say, you cock. Flaming? Oh i'm terrified. This is the problem with online games- when you really want to push some spotty wet behind the ears little cunts face through the back of their head, they aren't there. More's the pity. If it is alright for you to pick fights and abuse people, then it's alright for people to do it to you. So, FUCK OFF. You really are a total wanker. And i didn't sign because i didn't even know you could/ had to. That means i'm just learning, not that i'm stupid, you faggot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dog Deever (talk • contribs) again, no timestamp. ~~Bad fuckwit! Very bad fuckwit~~.

A minor observation, Xoid: I find it interesting that you get pissed at me for being annoyed at editing my page; now someone else is, for editing their user page. Doesn't that tell you something? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 11:44, 13 May 2006 (BST)

PS: I also find it interesting that you got pissed at me for being "unwelcoming", and told me to go join Project Unwelcome, as I'd fit in perfectly. Now I find you are part of Project Unwelcome... forgot that minor detail, did you? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 11:46, 13 May 2006 (BST)

(At Dog Deever)

Again, shut the fuck up you moronic cunt. If pissants such as yourself were not so heavily inbred, there wouldn't be any problems on the wiki.
"I did not complain about the message you sent, you fucking computer nerd." — Excellent insult, no really, you've just outdone yourself, I'd give you a medal if I could. You do know that programmers can easily earn upwards of $50,000 USD/year, and often make six figure sums, right? And that good systems analyst can pretty much name their price, right? I take fucking pride in my knowledge because I know damn well that I earn more money than some dumbshit stuck in an office, and can keep earning it well into my latter years, making the same amount of money as sports stars can over a slightly extended period of time, without ending up getting all manner of physical disabilities that [sport stars] inevitably end up getting.
And why bother picking a fight where it does not concern you, anyway. Since your life, and I quote "…[is] full of more important things than how to work a wiki.…", so you consider this flamefest important enough to warrant your time. You're a sad, pathetic little man.
"…You seem to think everyone but yourself is retarded…" — way to proove me wrong, numbnuts. Your opening insult already prooved that. Your inability to spell, and your inability to use correct grammar only adds to the impression that you are the stereotypical dumbfuck who only learnt how to use a computer because they'd have been fired if they stayed in the stone ages any longer.
"If it is alright for you to pick fights and abuse people, then it's alright for people to do it to you. — I never said it wasn't. I said that complaining about my doing so, and calling it unacceptable continue to illustrate your lack of intellect.
"This is the problem with online games- when you really want to push some spotty wet behind the ears little cunts [sic] face through the back of their head, they aren't there. More's the pity." — It is, y'know, because if you were here, I would already have cut your throat. And no, I'm not threatening you, I'm merely lamenting the fact that you lack the brainpower to use the many easily available tools that you could use make your way to my house, so I could punt you out the window. But don't worry, there's no need to be "…terrified…" — it ain't worth moving even a millimetre to give you the comeuppance you richly deserve.

Take your idiocy and excuses for your blatant incompetence elsewhere, 'cause while I am listening, I don't really care. While I would prefer to see you dead, that's merely so you wouldn't reproduce. Regards, Xoid. ^Talk ^U! 12:32, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Oh, you just altered the text for a fortieth time. How positively sweet of you to question my sexuality! Or did you just think that I'm part of The Faggots? I'm not part of either group. Using faggot as an insult. Jeeze, that really prooves you are the intelligent one here, doesn't it. Are you on Project UnWelcome yet? You'd be a great asset, I'm sure. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:32, 13 May 2006 (BST)

(At Cyberbob240)

In regards to Project UnWelcome, I never said I wasn't a part of it. It's not like I haven't been "signed" up since the start, I founded the bloody thing after all, and even a cursory inspection could've revealed that fact. I merely said you'd feel right at home. It was a lowblow trying to illustrate the irony factor of you, a Project Welcome member, not living up to the ideals you supposedly hold onto.

In regards to the user page alteration, no, he actually thanked me on that. I'm getting the impression that he merely takes umbrage with my "It's not my job to babysit you" approach. It ain't my job to baby sit the retards around here. Never has been, never will be.–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:32, 13 May 2006 (BST)

HA!HA!HA! I really couldn't give a rats ass about your mildly irritating rant anymore, in short- you are not fit to be a moderator on any site, your people skills are seriously lacking (too much computing leads to these types of social stunting- get out more). I doubt an obvious twat such as yourself would be able to punch their way out of a wet paper bag. I visited Cyberbob's discussion page to thank him for his support- and his page was of far more assisstance than any of the shit you talk. I know it isn't anyone's job to babysit anyone else, but a simple couple of lines instead of a morning of insults would suffice. No, i'm not very good at this, that shouldn't stop me from being allowed to use the damned thing. I will learn and improve as i find things out. You, however will always be an utter shite-hawk. And you did tell me not t pick fights- check if you like. Fuck you. -Dog Deever 12:57, 13 May 2006 (BST)

The feeling is mutual. And for the fourty-first time, I'm no moderator. I never have been, and I don't want to be.

"…simple couple of lines instead of a morning of insults would suffice." — You got a simple couple of lines, and instead started an argument.
"…your people skills are seriously lacking (too much computing leads to these types of social stunting- get out more)." — No shit, Sherlock, people on the Autistic spectrum never have, nor ever will be able to fit into a world populated by numbnuts such as yourself. And why the hell should I change to suit you? It's neither my responsibility to babysit you, nor conform to your standards.
"…his page was of far more assisstance than any of the shit you talk." — No shit, Sherlock. I already said fifty billion times that I don't want to waste time babysitting you. Which is why you got a pair of links and a brief message.
"And you did tell me not t pick fights- check if you like." — My mistake. When trying to condense the policy down into a few sentences, I couldn't be bothered any more and seemingly did not remove all of what I was writing.
"I will learn and improve as i find things out. You, however will always be an utter shite-hawk." — I can't really argue with that. When people "find things out", learning and improving is implied by default. Ain't semantics a bitch? As to the implication that I will always be an utter "shite-hawk", if you replaced that with arsehole I wouldn't have a problem. "Shite-hawk" simply doesn't roll off the tongue.

As to the earlier implication that I couldn't punch my way out of paper bag, you again do yourself the disservice of making an assumption, not every nerd is physically weak. When you kept getting picked on because of small minded fucks who can't accept that you do not have an obligation to conform you eventually learn how to fight. And when need be, I still can. As for you, I will not make any assumptions in regards to your capabilities in that regard. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:25, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Next message may be foune here.

I am from Scotland, and it rolls off my tongue fine. Incidentally- i also forgot to say thanks for centering my picture, and fixing the bullets i fucked up. And I mean that sincerely.

Note, however, that you also made a mistake, by your own admission, about telling me not to pick a fight. There is also no such number as 'fourty-first', but i apologize for pointing this out if you are 'numerically challenged'. And it was also you who began a tirade of personal abuse, you just got back what you richly deserved- long may it continue. Your ability to exaggerate loses it's comedy value because you exaggrate about seventy trillion times too much. Language can be used in many ways, 'learn' implies being taught by assisstance from others. 'Find things out' implies trial and error. I don't need to be told how to talk by a socially retarded bawbag such as yer good self. And i already said that i have no complaint about the notification, it is the abuse you hurl at people who make a simple mistake that i take exception to. --Dog Deever 14:24, 13 May 2006 (BST)

"Arsegike" — Not exactly many Scotsmen on the web, at least not concentrated enough that Scottish terms and phrases are common knowledge for netizens. (Note: As you can probably tell, I'm assuming "Arsegike" is a common term. Knowing my luck, it's probably a term you just invented. Making this point null and void.)
"…you also made a mistake…" — True enough. I admitted it after all.
"And it was also you who began a tirade of personal abuse…" — Forgotten already? I've highlighted where you started this. While I did turn the heat up a notch in the flamefest, I was replying in kind. Frankly, if you wanted to take the moral highground here you could have put a concise, clear and formally worded complaint. You would have received no flaming had that been the case. By putting the praise in the praise section, and then adding a complaint, under the criticism section, (something along the lines of; "Acting like an arsehole to other newbies isn't going to get you a medal. Try to restrain any impulses to verbally lash out at them if you can, regardless of how stupid you consider their actions to be." would've worked wonders. I'm not like other people, when I actually get pissed off, I stay that way for hours on end. I can't help it. Considering the fact that being impulsive and "consequences be damned" is a hallmark with plenty of Aspies, I'm downright socially well-adjusted.)
"Your ability to exaggerate loses it's comedy value because you exaggrate about seventy trillion times too much." — If I didn't have to repeat myself so much… (Check the speedy deletions page. And it's archive, all the way back to April 13^th. If you do it, it should give some insight as to why I hate Criterion 9s so much. The sheer number alone is enough to make you want to tear your hair out. I've been wasting time and risking my diploma sorting this wiki out, it's difficult trying to sneak in edits inbetween work, and everything else. Tabbed browsing really helps)
"Language can be used in many ways…socially retarded bawbag such as yer good self.…" — Was it that obvious that I was grasping for straws on that one?
"bawbag" — Everything for point one applies here, including the disclaimer.
"And i already said that i have no complaint about the notification, it is the abuse you hurl at people who make a simple mistake that i take exception to." — I got that from the second message you left. (It, and proof of my acknowledgement are highlighted in pink. sigh… Why can't I remember more of the good websafe colours?) It was Cyberbob240 who wasn't sure of this. (His message indicating confusion is highlighted in cyan.)

All that being said, this particular international incident is boring me. Does both this message address your concerns, or do I need to break out the sugar. (It's frigging late here. 00:36) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:36, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Fair enough. Although I was originally nominated for speedy deletion as Criterion 1 with possible criterion 9. If you don't want abuse and arguments then don't dish out insults like sweeties (candies). The fact that the mistake is being made so many times means it is obviously rather easy to do. All being said, have a nice sleep. PS a bawbag is a scrotal sac! (Just in case you feel like using it yourself!)-Dog Deever 16:23, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Criterion 9. Criterion 1 is no content with little to no chance of expansion. (I'm assuming there is more you want to add to your profile, eventually. If it was going to remain that way permantently then it would match both. As you can notice, I'm pedantic about terminology. Another trait of Aspies.) I probably won't be using bawbag, I can't think of anyone here who might actually get it. (Most of them are Americans, or miscellaneous non-westerners, as far as I know. I'd think that there are certainly plenty of people from in or around England, simply because that's where the server is located, so if there are other Scotsmen lurking or contributing, they'd get it, but I'm going off on a tangent here 'cause I never shut up and I'll stop… now.)

Holy crap. I just realised I signed up on my birthday. (Already broken my promise, goddamnitalltohell.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:39, 13 May 2006 (BST)

A thing

I've taken a glance at your contribs, and I've noticed you've been a little overbearing to people. Take, for example, me. Your comment on my talk page that you changed my user page and tacked on at the end as an afterthought is "I hope you don't mind". Well, I do. NEVER touch my user page again. If I see you touch someone else's (I don't care who) without prior permission, you're going to get reported as a Vandal. If someone isn't happy with their user page's look, they can change it themselves. They don't need you barging in saying "Ooh, I've noticed...(insert minor fucking detail here) is wrong on your user page. I've taken the liberty of changing it. I hope you don't mind". If you want to help people, make a detailed help page or something. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 10:10, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Jesus H. Christ. What is wrong with people here? Simple alterations when there happens to be coding error or such get me bitched at. Simple alterations where there happens to be a broken link have gotten other people bitched at. Simeple alterations where people fix a spelling mistake get other people bitched at. I fixed a factual fallacy on your user page. Why can't people around here relax?

"…make a detailed help page or something." — I have done my best so far to fix up the help documentation around here, but people don't seem to even look at it before going off half-cocked and making glaring mistakes.

And I strongly resent both the tone, and the content of your message. "…without prior permission…" — It's a litte late for that. I've already copied plenty of content from pages that fall under criterion 9 or 11 to their creators pages, where they belong. Are you going to report me for that too? What about reverting pages. Is that also going to earn your ire?

What about group pages, where technically even the slightest change is enough to warrant a vandal banning if you have even one prior misunderstanding with someone. And here I was thinking you were being reasonable all of sudden — everything should be judged on it's merits. Arbitrary rules, where there is no leeway are pathetic, they all (eventually) lead to punishment where there was never any malice intended, and strongly discourage proactive people from doing their utmost because of fear of being hit by the letter of the law, rather than the spirit.

And for what it's worth, right from the start I had it in writing that I took the code from Mia's user page — not yours. Since that text has been there through every iteration after I raided for the code, I can't see any way you can say anything more than "sorry I just glanced at your page, not reading any part of it, and merely beacuse it looked like it used the same format (that another user already had), that it must have been my page he took the code from."

But since you are seeming to take the hardline "By the book, and who cares about the people these rules affect." approach to things, I don't think that is going to appease you. Perhaps you can't tell, but I'm very disappointed at your over-reaction, c'mon Cyberbob240, you're bigger than this. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:29, 12 May 2006 (BST)

You kind of missed the point of my rant. I don't mind you copying code, it's editing code that pisses me off. Even that is OK, as long as you ask first. And "by the book, and who cares about the people involved" doesn't really apply. If you are personally offended by a simple spelling mistake or factual error, I can't help you (not many people could). What I can do is tell you that people don't like someone else just editing their pages without warning/prior requests for permission. OK? (PS: It takes "bigness" to start an argument. "Small" people would just let it slide. I don't.) --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 12:35, 12 May 2006 (BST)

That is just it, I didn't miss the point of your rant. I considered your rant both acerbic and asinine. "If I see you touch someone else's [talk page] (I don't care who [sic]) without prior permission, you're going to get reported as a Vandal." — that statement both clearly leaves no leeway for what is standard operating proceedure around here in regards to criterion 9s, or fixing someone's code. If someone mistyped a character, e.g. {{Playerkillet}} for a template called "Playerkiller", and I fixed it, that statement indicates you would report me for vandalism. Whether you would or not, the rigid wording you used is absurd. Which is exactly what I was trying to illustrate with the various examples I used. Nothing is ever black or white. And an abitrary demand like that thoroughly disgusts me.

Your inflammatory remarks about the help pages offend me. Really offends me. And don't say they were not inflammatory, they were. As I speak I've got the pages for tables open, where I've edited nearly 3/5^ths of the goddamned thing to make it correct.

I don't see what the big deal is with minor corrections. Like the two that I did to Wifey's page. {{NoWiki}} got deleted and she had a reference to it in there, so I removed it. The dead red link pointed towards fireman. To get it to link properly it should've been firefighter. Am I supposed to be reported for vandalism for those edits?

And no it doesn't take "bigness" to start an argument. It takes pettiness — I should know — I've started enough of them myself. It takes "bigness" to stick up for what's right, and I don't see how limiting me from cleanning this dump up (through your demand) is criminal. You could easily have used two sentences, the first being what I've already quoted and the second being something along the lines of "The only exception is with criterion 9s, [insert another legitimate reason here], or [insert another legitimate reason here].", yet you didn't.

Did I tack on "I hope you don't mind." as an afterthought? Of course. I really didn't think such a fucking minor, unimportant thing as a disclaimer would be important enough to warrant your fury simply because you feel like getting pissed off over me not asking you. Do you want me to ask your permission the next time I notice something so very minor (that only someone with hawk eyes woud notice) but still makes you look like an idiot?

And don't think I'm insulting you here&hellip note the text I've highlighted this time round? Read it. Because "I don't mind you copying code…" indicates that you haven't. Try checking the diff that I linked too — it is the first time I had a user page in the same fashion as yours, but it explicitly states that I didn't copy your code. I copied Mia's code and mutilated it. Your disclaimer that I copied your code and then mutilated it were blatantly false. How many times does it need to be written on my user page, your talk page, and now on my talk page for you to realise that?

I think I've finished addressing every issue I had with your criticism. Criticism where criticism is due Cyberbob240, is that I didn't ask first. Criticism where criticism is due Cyberbob240, is that I shouldn't have to had. Criticism where criticism is due Cyberbob240 is that you decided that just because I didn't ask you, despite it obviously being a good faith edit that I'm vandalising your page. It's obvious that there is no damage done to your reputation, to your formatting or anything else on your page except for a minor "factoid" that was both incorrect and obviously so. I was not offended by the little blurb at the bottom in any way, shape or form, I was just correcting a minor fucking error, and you decide to make a mountain out of a molehill. The fucking help pages? Should I go and make one where the subject is "Don't even think of correcting someone's user page, because almost no body around here thankful that you've done them a favour".

I'm not going to say another word, beyond this; you sure hit a nerve, and perhaps you should sign up for Project UnWelcome, because you've sure made me feel that my efforts are. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:37, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Again, you totally missed what I said. I don't care if you fix a template or something on community pages; it's only user pages that annoy me. They are there for users to do whatever they want with them; if you see something wrong, tell them about it, or ask them for permission to change it if they don't know how to. Don't barge in and do it yourself. That's just asking for trouble. OK? That's pretty much all I was ever trying to say. I guess I let my (fairly immense) irritation get in the way of clarity. Sorry for pissing you off as much as I obviously did. I'll back away now... --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 13:45, 12 May 2006 (BST)

For the third time, I did get your point.

I was talking about user pages… hell I was talking about Wifey's user page. Check the history on it, then report me. I edited it despite the fact I had not gotten prior permission. And I got thanked for it, because some people don't care that you are violating a stupid little rule that you are clearly interpreting to the letter of the law, and not it's spirit — check the praise section for proof.

<rant style="offtopic">
(Which is which has become heavily overshadowed because instead of people taking note of any good things I do, they harp on and never shut up about my character flaws, or shit that is clearly their responsibility (Revivification Points — Any competent programmer could have made code that accounted for the alterations I made — only a truly negligent programmer would ignore the fact that attributes and style sheets may eventually be incorporated into a table. If my edits to the table broke anything, it is because his code was entirely too unflexible.), or because they are a lying sack of shit who uses alternate wiki accounts to do their "dirty work", got caught, and ignored the golden opportunity they had to set the facts straight. (See Rip purr.)

I'm sorry, have I gone off on a tangent here? It might have something to do with the fact that I am extremely pissed with the environment here in general. As far as I can tell, everyone here has a lack of perspective, with few exceptions. Trying to get anything done here is like pulling teeth, you've got to sign everything, everything has to be decided upon beforehand, etc. Is it any fucking wonder that so much of the wiki is incomplete?
</rant>
Back on topic: When you copy crap from the main namespace into a user's page, that is violating your little demand. Here, I'll state it again, for the fourth time; "If I see you touch someone else's [talk page] (I don't care who [sic]) without prior permission, you're going to get reported as a Vandal." There is no way to fulfill your demand if the person already has a user page, but for some reason has characters in the main namespace, and I want to get 'em ready for speedy deletion. Which is why I objected so strongly to that demand. (I know that technically it's a statement, but it's close enough to a demand.)
The point I've tried to raise again, and again, that is continually ignored: why would someone in their right mind bitch about a fucking typo being correct, a justified edit with appropriate clarification or fixing a syntax error. It doesn't do anything but change their user page from what it currently is into what they originally intended.

It's clear that you are about the process here, and not the result. If no harm is done, why is the user complaining? If it's minor and doesn't alter what they intended their user page to be, then I say they have no right under natural law to bitch about it. Anyone who does is simply making drama because they feel like it. Like I have done previously, like you have done previously and like you are doing now. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:38, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Sniping

I'd much prefer it if you ease up on the snark. I'd prefer an authorative, but emotionally neutral, message sent to people who make mistakes on the wiki rather than a flame, since most users just need to be told they're doing something wrong to change their behaviour, rather than insults. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 07:50, 12 May 2006 (BST)

The sheer number of criterion 9's were beginning to get to me. The worst of those messages where also left during a time when I was under a lot of stress, from RL™ and from pure frustration. But I am trying to shape up in that regard. If you look around hard enough, you might find that with newbies who haven't done criterion 9's, I've generally been friendly. The exception being Codename V/Rip purr, and whom I consider persona non grata. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:55, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Still, perhaps keeping a boilerplate text on hand so you can dispense handy advice to Crit9ers regardless of your anger/stress levels might be an idea. Actually, I may even do that myself at Template:Crit9warning… —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Odd Starter (talk • contribs) even mods aren't infallible I see… ;p.

Funny you should mention that. It was something I was planning on doing, 'cause even though I can't help but feel the rage, I still recognise it's there. It's… weird. On a related note, I get the gist of what the term "sniping" means from having seen it used before, but I'm unsure as to it's exact meaning. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:14, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Wiktionary Verb definition two is where I'm aiming at, though I'm using it fairly loosely in this context. -- Odd Starter ^{talk • Mod • W!} 08:34, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Having visited your page I now understand that you have toned yourself down a lot in the message you so kindly left me, and thank you for the warning regarding an potential infringement I was about to make. However you tone still needs looking at, it's in no way emotionally netural and comes across all jack boots and anger. I am a newb, n00b or whatever and to some extent proud of it, I will make mistakes and friendly pointers are always welcome. I also understand that you probably see a lot of 'criterion 9's' (had to look that up as it means nothing to outsiders) and don't feel you want to be nice all the time, but a friendly mention of how and why the infringement of the rules effect people would probably have a much better result. For a good example see the comment by Celt Mac Éireann which is friendly and informative. You however, start by raising your voice (using bold), then make a threat and finish up with an order, ummm nice. Net result probably the same I will post on the Revive board and I won't put any more users (characters actually in this case) in the main namespace, but had you tried the former there'd be one less person in the world who thinks you are a c**k! -- FallenAngel 10:02, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Calling me a cock isn't likely to endear you to me either. I was merely using formal language to inform you that there could be repercussions if you recreated the page. It wasn't a "threat". If someone recreated the same page that just got speedily deleted, it gets speedily deleted again, they recreate it again, etc, they will eventually get banned.

The bit about removing the links on your page, yes it did come out as snide, but I couldn't think of any better way to word it. In hindsight I probably should have left a disclaimer saying that, but now that you've already been offended, there is not much more I can do than say sorry. I'm sorry I couldn't think of a better way to say it, alright?

One thing that irks me though is that you make it sound like a bad thing that you had to look anything up. While I really should've provided a link to the speedy deletion criteria, and other relevant things, it's not like they are heavily linked left, right and centre and are on the main page. It really isn't that hard to find the rules and had you have read them, neither my time or yours would've been wasted. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:50, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Rip purr

Previous message may be found here.

Check the Codename V user page. And take a chill pill. Jesus... --DogSoldier ^JI 08:48, 10 May 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here.

Bah! Ever so mature now, aren't we? You get told off by the moderation team because you acted in bad faith and dishonestly — you have been deliberately misleading from the start, and so… you archive it. And name it "WhingingArchive". The only one whinging about being persecuted is you, so shove your smug comments up your arse. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:15, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Revivification Points

Minor complaint about your changes to the table listing RP's. The changes were fine in and of themselves, but please check with Mettaur and I before making any structural or formating changes to the table (or at least notify us on our talk pages in advance of what you are about to do), as you may break automated parsing tools we are both running on that table. Thanks! --Gilant ^talk|DEM 16:26, 2 May 2006 (BST)

Certainly. My apologies if I caused any problems. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 01:35, 3 May 2006 (BST)

The Corleone Family

Vito the don spits at you for deleted his wiki page, we declare war on you if you do not replace it. Death shall come swiftly to those who wait. (Change it please… The Don Corleone.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Emankillsu (talk • contribs) 00:53, 22 April 2006 (BST).

A few things first…

Don't talk IC on a talk page when discussing general maintenance. It's confusing.

–or– (If you actually were threatening me. I somehow doubt it…)

Don't threaten me.
I've reformatted your message because it was an utter mess.

The main namespace is for information about Urban Dead itself, groups that are in it, and historical elements. Pretty much every thing else fluffy is gonna get either deleted or moved.

The reason your page's contents were moved, then the original page deleted, was because of the rules concerning placing user pages or pages about characters in the main namespace. "Do not create pages about your character(s) in the main namespace". This also goes for redirects. Because the page was created by bob8914, and he had claims on his page about being "Vito the Don", I moved the content there and listed the pages on Speedy Deletions, as per policy.

Before you complain, take this into account: "What if… every user created pages for their characters in the main namespace?" — it would quickly become clogged, like it already is, and become damn near impossible to organise or catch vandals. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

If every user made pages for their cahracteristics, the world would be a safer place. Also I see you managed to find time to list everything about your characters on your page, what are you? A hypocrite? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by emankillsu (talk • contribs) .

Sign your posts. Just add ~~~~ at the end of your text.
Xoid has his characters on his user page. Anything can go on your userpage as long as it doesn't violate policy. --Sirens^{T RR} 15:56, 22 April 2006 (BST)

What did I do that broke a policy rule? Oh and my character of b0b8914 in UD is Vito the Don. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by emankillsu (talk • contribs) .

Sign your posts. Just add ~~~~ at the end of your text.
That, I don't know. I was merely stating the above. What, exactly, happened with your characters? --Sirens^{T RR} 16:05, 22 April 2006 (BST)

I moved his character from the main namespace to his user page. The main namespace is for groups, Urban Dead itself, etc. The Journal namespace and the User namespace are where you should whack character's profiles and life stories. For a particularly small group, even including their profiles on their group's page would probably be alright. (I'm mainly thinking of huge groups here, like the RRF, where it would be utterly insane to include every profile, although were just plain large groups like the MotA, I'd probably view that as stupid, and counterintuitive practice.)

The other character, [[Emankillsu]] is currently listed for Speedy Deletion under criterion 9. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:31, 22 April 2006

I thought as much. --Sirens^{T RR} 16:36, 22 April 2006 (BST)

I am sorry for my hot-headedness I understand your position, thanks, and don't delete emankillsu that's my friends account, I will speak to him. Thanks again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by bob8914 (talk • contribs) …this was signed, but was dateless..

A little late. [[Emankillsu]] was moved to User:Emankillsu. Moving a page makes the original location a redirect to it's new location. The redirect was deleted because of criterion 9, but he can find what was originally on [[Emankillsu]] at User:Emankillsu.

If you notice your group's page, The Corleone Family, I improved things considerably. You are free to edit it to however you want, of course, but I sure you'll agree that it does look better than before I tinkered with it. If the reason your page was less than average was because you lack knowledge of wikimarkup, you can find excellent resources for it here and here.

If the reason the page was messy was due to sheer laziness, then believe me, I understand. However, people are far more likely to ignore a page that looks sloppy than to read it, let alone join the group who made it. Something to think on. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

Man I've changed my mind, you are so my hero! --Bob8914 15:32, 23 April 2006 (BST)

Praise

If you want to tell me what I've done that impresses you, place it under this heading...

From Jedaz

"Playing by the rules doesn't excuse being a dick. --Xoid 15:42, 1 June 2006 (BST)"

Thanks for backing me against Cyberbob's pointless striking out of my comment. He he, and nice jab back. - Jedaz 15:59, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Rules were written by man, and man is fallible, following those rules blindly is folly. I've had it out with him before over this. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:05, 1 June 2006 (BST)

From Conndraka

Congrats on the promo St. Xoid, I'm glad I nominated you. I think you'll do great. Conndraka^{mod T W!} 13:35, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Unless I ban myself out of sheer curiousity that is. I know Librarian Brent has done that before, but I've never been banned before. Kind of a morbid fascination, if you will. (Why can't I just say, "Thanks!" like a normal person?) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:38, 28 May 2006 (BST)

From Dog Deever

Yet more 'big-ups' fae Dog Deever. Thanks for all the help with Archiving and Location maps- Dog Deever ^T•Nec 16:16, 3 June 2006 (BST)

An apology is also in order from me, you have proved me wrong- despite your user page you have been very helpful. I am sorry, and i regret my part in the flamewar. My only defence is that Scots are part Celt and Viking- a mix for a short fuse! -Dog Deever 20:33, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Another big 'Och Aye!' to Xoid for archiving instructions! Have a deep fried, battered pizza on me! -Dog Deever 18:19, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Anything deep fried is good. Anything battered is good. Combine the two? I think I'd die from the calorie intake, but I'd die a happy man. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:25, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Thanks for the Arsegyke Alert on Silent Guido's page, Xoid. Also, do I put some sort of request in for deletion of the extra picture? Another fecking mistake! 'Pologies! I WILL get the hang of this! Have I posted this in the right place? Once again, cheers manny! --Dog Deever 01:56, 19 May 2006 (BST)

From Bob8914

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here. COPYEDITED — This part of the discussion has been checked for grammatical, spelling and coding errors that the linked version still contains.
As a mod you get 2 thumbs up, 5 stars and a box full of cannoli. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bob8914 (talk • contribs) 11:05, May 16, 2006 (BST).

From Undeadinator

Thanks for saving my Centaurs page from the unholy wrath of Grim. I'm moving it over to my user page now, so if you want, feel free to delete it. Appreciate the save, man. --Undeadinator 20:59, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Heh, no problem. I thought it was hilarious. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:56, 13 May 2006 (BST)

From Wifey

Thanks for removing the NoWiki template for me; I likely wouldn't have noticed it was a broken template reference. Was it deleted?--Wifey 05:58, 11 May 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here.

Let's keep this on the down-low, but, between you and me... I actually do know who Amazing is. I made the template as an amusing way of making it clear that I want no part of any of the Amazing conflict going about. --Wifey 07:51, 11 May 2006 (BST)

From Cyberbob

I loved your speech on that policy thingy talk page. By any chance would you happen to like Rage Against the Machine? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 17:09, 5 May 2006 (BST)

This eventually devolved into a discussion. You can read it here. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:25, 10 May 2006 (BST)

From RWXSM

Cheers for adding my group to the groups page. --RWXSM 16:46, 25 April 2006 (BST)

From Mia

Help:Links#Semi-Advanced - Handy! Thanks! --Sirens^{T RR} 19:10, 24 April 2006 (BST)
Promotions page: Thanks for organizing it. --Sirens^{T RR} 04:37, 10 May 2006 (BST)

From Bob8914

You frickin' rock! --Bob8914 15:32, 23 April 2006 (BST)

From Brizth

I have to say, Nice work on fixing all those little things! Keep up the good work. --Brizth ^{W! M} 15:46, 20 April 2006 (BST)

Thanks. It's the little things that really stand out when the content is otherwise good. It's my sense of (semi) perferctionism that drove me into improving this wiki. –Xoid ^S•T•FU!

"(semi) perfectionism" because I'm too lazy to be an actual perfectionist. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:34, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Pointless Chatter

Should speak for itself. This heading is for non-serious stuff that is not directly related to editing the wiki.

Whats the point...

What is the point of a profile link when you want to be allies with groups not actully recruit them. Besides if I'm wrong here just correct me hell we need all the allies we need since we changed and shit--Coolo 16:50, 29 July 2006 (BST)

Oh... then I'll check then for you xoid but Gulsonside is like one of the uneventful suberbs and are already dealing with PH members and the scropien group also. Since we don't know much about the Red Mafiya we have to check...--Coolo 16:57, 29 July 2006 (BST)

Botfixing

Yeah, good to know Kevan is working on it. I really don't care what gets implemented as long as it stops the microsecond server-hammering. Very annoying to click on an empty building's doors & find it went up to VS in the last five seconds. Rheingold 13:58, 29 July 2006 (BST)

PKer Alliance

Those couple little words got my attention. I've talked with BiII about PKer portal, that would gather most PKer events and groups on one place, and least be a start for a somekind of alliance. Sadly it never got anywhere. So I was wondering if you could help this matter. That whole thing would least need some catchy name and place to talk. Also it wouldn't hurt to get some groups to go with it at start. I'm ready to go with it and so are few others. Sooo... What I'm asking is, could it be done? (Yeah, I forgot the sig.. Thanks.) --Niilomaan 19:42, 26 July 2006 (BST)

No idea if it would actually work out. I reckon we could call the event "PKaiger". We are seriously going to need a UDTool list for this, as anything else wouldn't work. There is already a group, but I can't remember the name of it, it was something like that. I'd participate in this simply because I'm fucking tired of the trenchies in Caiger. I know plenty of other people who are too. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:57, 27 July 2006 (BST)

I think you should ask Bobs. Or one could just jump here and say his opinion. I know you're reading it guys... There are so many PKer groups that think alike, that if you just put those all together with a single goal, then it could be done. To just unite without any reason? No. To unite so we could bring down Caiger? Hell yeah! (But we would need a wiki page for it.) --Niilomaan 08:04, 27 July 2006 (BST)

We are not reading this page. We are not monitoring your every move. We are doubleplusgood. But go on about defeating the trenchcoaters and so on. Even though we're not listening. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:45, 27 July 2006 (BST)

Think about those days of glory that would follow.. No stupid zergers or trenchcoaters.. Each new noob on the area would get their personal greeting from Project UnWelcome given to them from shotgun barrel. Think about it. Only thing needed is a place and somekind of a leader, board or council. It could start with just a few groups with a single mission, and then grow beyond any normal union. Also ASS would have a real role in this to tell who is worthy and who is dead. I'd follow you, and even bring some friends with you. --Niilomaan 13:32, 27 July 2006 (BST)

I know

Thanks, but I know what it says on the Eastonwood Ferals page. I'm a bit of a follower of theirs and we have mutual respect for each other. I wasn't accusing the EF of spying on us, I actually quoted that I would call it fair game for them to use spies as they are not a large group anyway. It was TBB that I made the accusation on, and as I turned about to be wrongly accusing them anyway, I personally apologised to Papa Sonny. --Chopper 19:27, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Re: I noticed…

No, just being less active on the wiki. I've been at least a month now, actually. Having my name in W! list might just confuse someone if they ask me something and I won't be around to answer. Same for Arbitration. Someone might actually ask me to arbitrate :D But I'll still be around to ban vandals, delete pages and (try) to explain the wiki rules to some hapless soul. --Brizth ^{M T} 15:23, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Yes, yes you can

You heard right, I'm quiting. Not much else to say on the subject...--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 05:42, 25 July 2006 (BST)

*Pops champagne* --Karlsbad 05:45, 25 July 2006 (BST)

*brings the booze and the women* Sonny Corleone ^{WTF RRF ASS CoL} 05:46, 25 July 2006 (BST)

By damn, your signature has grown. Quite a bit. Anyway, allow me to join in the festivities. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:04, 25 July 2006 (BST)

I got bored. *blasts AC/DC out of the stereo* Sonny Corleone ^{WTF RRF ASS CoL} 06:11, 25 July 2006 (BST)

If you're still bored, reform the CoL (original) and totally shake the ant farm!-That's Why I did your Wife 06:16, 25 July 2006 (BST)

I prefer the nice four tilde signature myself *spikes punch* --Karlsbad 06:17, 25 July 2006 (BST)

They already have. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:18, 25 July 2006 (BST)

The CoL is back and Xoid is on the list of new possible members and shit. Wooh! Party! Beer! Women! Music! *throws up the horns* Sonny Corleone ^{WTF RRF ASS CoL} 06:19, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Oh man, I missed the train on that one. Reform it again then, after dissolving it. Again. yes. -That's Why I did your Wife 06:41, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Banana Bear, you stole my milkshake. Now give it back and do the splits. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 06:43, 25 July 2006 (BST)

YOU'RE THE MILKSHAKE! -That's Why I did your Wife 06:45, 25 July 2006 (BST)

But if I'm the milkshake, what is this drink that I am holding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait it's a coke. HAHA GOOD ONE. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 06:52, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Glad You Can Take A Joke

I'm glad you can take a joke Xoid. And yes, it was stupid of me to put up a template on a regular page, I was new to the Wiki, and didn't realize it had to have a separate page. Thus, when one of the Bobs tried to delete it, I thought he was just being an idiot, so I responded in kind. Unfortunately, your templates are appropriately placed, and after I submitted them for deletion, I realized what a moron I had been. So, I fixed my template and put it in its own little Template page. I am anti-Assualt on Stupid Survivors, and I myself admit to being stupid sometimes (see above). I am glad that at least some people can take a joke. Xigyac 02:24, 25 July 2006 (BST)

DHPD

Do you have something against the DHPD? Because you sounded really hostile to us an Hammer's talk page...--Paradox244 00:55, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Category:Templates

I was wondering if it would be correct if i placed this template: {{Laffo5th}} in this category: Category:Anti-Idiocy Templates. --DarkStar2374383 ^{Talk | LDY | LOE} 06:42, 23 July 2006 (BST)

Almost certainly. I'm re-writing the code on it (because it's a disgrace), but it almost certainly falls into that category. Unless Fifth manages to learn about copyright law, and stops being retarded. But that's almost an impossibility. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 06:48, 23 July 2006 (BST)

I have to tell you...

That i'm not a Scientologist. They are funny people, though. If they are not literally killing people.--Thari 07:51, 22 July 2006 (BST)

Deal

Yep. --Brizth ^{mod T W!} 11:33, 21 July 2006 (BST)

Will the Real Conndraka Please Stand Up

Its me...I saw the Old(old new)board was shutting down and moving over to the New (new new) Board. -C- Conndraka^{mod T} 07:46, 21 July 2006 (BST)

What you say!? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:48, 21 July 2006 (BST)

All very confusing, isn't it? This is the third board. Since this simple machines board has all the bells and whistles required, isn't a proboard (for those who hate them, there are many) or an invisionfree board (Cyberbob seems to get his knickers in a knot over them. For some reason.), there shouldn't be too much bitching about it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:50, 21 July 2006 (BST)

I have joined no board. Never invited either. Hammero left out of special party. :( –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:56, 21 July 2006 (BST)

Check my user page. There is a link to it there. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:57, 21 July 2006 (BST)

Everyone's invited, I forgot to tell you.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 08:04, 21 July 2006 (BST)

It's all good. I joined up. I was just acting like an idiot before. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:28, 21 July 2006 (BST)

Re: Suggestions thing

Okay...that seems a bit stupid! So, in essence, anyone can reply to anyone's vote as long as they strike a part of it out? Jonny12 ^W! 12:43, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Thanks for clarifying that for me! Jonny12 ^W! 15:08, 20 July 2006 (BST)

It's at the top. Happy?

The only reason I said fuck you was because you insulted my family which I am getting a little tired of hearing.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 07:14, 20 July 2006 (BST)

I truely hope you burn in hell. You are the rudest mother fucking jack ass it has ever been my extreme displeasure to meet, and that's saying something on this wiki. Why don't you throw yourself off a building (That's in real life. If you need directions, turn around and get out of your chair.) and help make the wiki a better place.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 07:23, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Dude, no one cares that you were insulted, and your suggestion was going to be spammed anyway. --Karlsbad 07:29, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Fuck you.

That's all I'm saying.--Labine50 ^MHG|^MalTel 07:02, 20 July 2006 (BST)

That's polite. Cyberbob Talk 07:07, 20 July 2006 (BST)

I know. Ain't he sweet? Placing it at the bottom, instead of the top and all? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:10, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Awww, he's so cute. I bet someday he'll grow up and be a big wiki contributer and everything! –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:23, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Duck and cover

You're a mod Xoid, and the suggestion has 3 Spam votes already: remove it so it doesn't make anymore harm! Save the eyes and the brains of the community!! --Matthew Fahrenheit ^{YRC | T | W!} 07:13, 14 July 2006 (BST)

Puns

Good sir I beseech you, those puns are damaging to the mind. I don't know how much more I can take! Also, thanks, I was wondering where I would put that info after compiling it. --Burgan 19:25, 11 July 2006 (BST)

I hate thinking up titles

I tried to add you on Em Ess En (lawl). –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:57, 10 July 2006 (BST)

New template

	Wiki Gestapo
	This user is a member of the Wiki Gestapo.

--^talk 05:23, 10 July 2006 (BST)

join my new group!--

^talk 05:30, 11 July 2006 (BST)

Something going on?

The wiki seems almost devoid of activity lately. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:53, 7 July 2006 (BST)

I wonder what'll happen (nothing?)

Queue Kevan hating me in 3, 2, 1, .... –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 06:31, 6 July 2006 (BST)

Vigour Mortis vs. Lurching Gait

Good points... effectively making A.G. a first-tier skill is an advantage I hadn't considered.

I've played around with a few zombie alts but the game is so painful for young unaffiliated zombies that eventually I think I'll just switch over my survivor main (with a lot of banked xp, naturally) if I want to experience that half of the game. Survivors really do have it much easier in UD... Rheingold 10:09, 5 July 2006 (BST)

I gibbed him, senor!

Xoid, you just made my day. --Burgan 06:38, 5 July 2006 (BST)

Boring

It's boring, it's a game, not life. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amiasheep (talk • contribs) @ 10:10, 2 July 2006 (BST).

Abstaining

I abstained from that vote because I really didn't care one way or the other. --Lightman 12:32, 3 July 2006 (BST)

You Broke My Talk Page Bob

Why do I feel like I'm being ignored about this request? Damnit, it's actually important, too. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:53, 2 July 2006 (BST)

If he can't be bothered to be around more than one day in three, what makes you think he wants to go through the rigmarole of updating the thing? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:10, 2 July 2006 (BST)

The Corleone Family

Xoid! my wiki hero, you hate the red mafiyia too! no pro yet, but im trying my best. --User:Bob8914 where's the date, Bob? sigh' sorry xoid that post was 6/30/06 user:Bob8914

Checking another rule

Okay. According to the arbitration case I am not supposed to interact with the fifth horseman on this wiki. But i was about to post on a user page, and I noticed he was also in the conversation. Would i be allowed to post on the page? DarkStar2374383 ^{Talk | LDY | LOE} 11:40, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Certainly. As long as you are not interacting with him directly, (i.e. don't talk to The Fifth Horseman himself, as opposed to the owner of the page.), then you should be okay. Bear in mind that if either of you goads the other with disparaging remarks, that I would consider that to be directly interacting. (Which will fall under the arbitration ruling.)

In other words? As long as you both behave, and ignore each other's existence, there is no chance of the ruling being broken. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:46, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Thats what I thought but I wanted to double check. Thanks DarkStar2374383 ^{Talk | LDY | LOE} 11:58, 30 June 2006 (BST)

No problem. The whole point of the arbitration ruling was to be as unrestrictive as possible while still fulfilling it's purpose. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:09, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Wow

14 vouches, 100% support? I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:23, 30 June 2006 (BST)

You've even got support from Delta Flyer. I'm waiting for Amazing to show up with an alt, apologise for every real and perceived wrong doing on his part, and then vouch for you. That'd be about the only thing more surprising. (What can I say, Delta's support for you left me stunned.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:28, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Ha! Oh man, that would be even better than if PQN and 3page got together to do a double-vouch or something. Anyway, yeah, it's a little surprising about Delta, but not terribly if you know the history. A while back, Jimbo had listed Delta as a "zerger." Delta wrote us a very nice email asking if we would please just not refer to him in that way, and I decided to change the wording to be less condemning (even though I agreed with Jimbo's assessment). Jimbo and Delta started arguing on the talk page, and I ended up stepping in and trying to keep the talk page from erupting into a flame war. When I later ran for mod and started getting negative results, I asked Delta if he would be willing to vote on my bid either way, and he vouched for me then. I thought he might want to vote this time around too, so I let him know I was running, and he vouched for me again. Surprising, but true. (But hey, ever since Wikigate, I've kept the game separate from the wiki, so why not, right?) –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:57, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Oh well. Not so suprisng when you have the background. Admittedly I didn't read much more than that he had been called one, and I thought he might still have been bitter about it. Good to see maturity is showing through on both sides, apart from occasional outbursts, this place seems much calmer of late. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:08, 30 June 2006 (BST)

It's a nice change, isn't it? I'm sure it won't last forever though. Actually, I think we might already be starting down the road to future problems, what with one user who keeps fishing for trouble in his votes on the Suggestions page. Fuck, why can't there be some sort of minimum IQ required to use the Internet? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:15, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Because if it were set at even a rather conservative 100, I doubt there would be many people left on the internet. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:18, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Damn, that's depressingly true. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:20, 30 June 2006 (BST)

Email

Go ahead and check it, please. Some good news for you. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 06:49, 30 June 2006 (BST)

With regards to this vote:

"I'm half inclined to say that a blank can't harm you." You're fortunate that you didn't say that, as it would have left you open to one of my Factual Corrections of Doom. Even a blank, at sufficiently close range (within a couple feet), can be fatal if it's fired at the head. The temples are especially vulnerable. --Jimbo Bob ^ASS•U! 09:09, 29 June 2006 (BST)

And don't forget that actor who was shot and killed at a range of about 12 feet by a faulty blank bullet. Cyberbob Talk 09:12, 29 June 2006 (BST)

Of course. Even without knowing that, I would've debated the point had someone said point blank, "Blanks can't harm you.". Just drop it off the top of a tall building. That can definitely harm someone. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:18, 29 June 2006 (BST)

Your email

If you would check it, that'd be cool. Thanks. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:52, 24 June 2006 (BST)

I noticed, I was just finishing up here before going to check my mail. Again. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:53, 24 June 2006 (BST)

Sorry, I know you hate email. ;) I'm looking into setting up a board to replace the yahoo group. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 08:56, 24 June 2006 (BST)

Re: SHIT!

Previous message may be found here.

I wasn't aware of the cease fire at the time! personally I don't see how its your buisness. The bobs said it wasn't all that big of a deal, so butt out--Gage^RRF 06:59, 24 June 2006 (BST)

I knew you were a member of ASS, but I had it taken care of. Just leave it. --Gage^RRF 07:18, 24 June 2006 (BST)

	STRAWS LOL
	Anybody see somebody reachin' for straws say "Yeah!"

Cyberbob Talk 07:45, 24 June 2006 (BST)

Lexicon

I'm afraid I don't understand it very well. - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Koryr (talk • contribs) well, they added their name, but not in the correct format.

Honours vs. Honors

Template:Wikipendence -- thanks for cleaning up the styles, but why did you insult my heritage? -- Rueful 14:51, 23 June 2006 (BST)

Re: Your Vote

I dont have to explain my vote, but I will.

you wrote:

Considering the RRF has been accused of zerging in the past, wouldn't you prefer being vindicated by the obvious lack of such penalties being applied? Or do you have some masochistic fascination with losing Caiger III due to rampant zergers? –Xoid M•T•U! 17:29, 22 June 2006 (BST)

I dont think there is a group out there that hasn't been accused. The RRF wants nothing to do with Caiger ever again. Killing isn't even permanent in this game, so an instakill is hardly anything to worry about, especially if you are zerging with zombies. --Gage^RRF 17:47, 22 June 2006 (BST)

Membership

Sure, feel free to join up. :P I think you're the first person to ever join without requesting permission first. I'll be sending you an informational email soon. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 05:47, 21 June 2006 (BST)

Opinion

Hello Xoid. Me and the other bills made a first draft of our new project the Alphabet Game, why don’t you have a look and tell us what you think. --Pathetic BiII 23:23, 18 June 2006 (BST)

thanks, your help and opinion is greatly appreciated --Pathetic BiII 15:30, 19 June 2006 (BST)

Checking a Rule(Possibly)

I just wanted to doublecheck to see if there was a rule against putting a picture on my user page that may/may not insult a certain group. DarkStar2374383 ^{Talk | LDY | LOE} 18:25, 18 June 2006 (BST)

Thanks

Haha, thanks for showing me that template. --Kwyjibo1047 00:09, 18 June 2006 (BST)

Unhappy

When you make statements like that, links, quotes and such would be handy if possible. If you don't want to post it on the wiki PM me with it. Otherwise I have no choice but to ignore the statement until it hits my desk officially, as without more information I can't make an reasonable evaluation on it.

I will say though, that while I don't think having a PKer character is grounds by itself for dismissal, it certainly wont win you any supporters in the DEM's officer ranks. While we have a large number of members with zombie alts (including in the RRF and such), most of us see PKing (in the just shooting random players sense, regardless of excuses) as annoying and a form of play that greatly detracts from the reason most of us joined UD: fighting the zombie horde or eating tasty harman brains. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 19:31, 15 June 2006 (BST)

"or have a sensible profile" - But you get to pick what you think is a sensible profile?! Sorry, that is just arrogant, and a very thin excuse, as are most of your others. It's one thing to want to play a PKer character, who has some real RP motivation, as much as I dislike PKing in general. But to come up with reasons that are obviously just justifications for you to kill other players, with a character you got bored with, is just lame. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 03:16, 16 June 2006 (BST)

Channel 4 News Team

Thanks for the heads up, but right now the plan is to spread the word! We've always been successful because of our visibility and operations in RRF territory shouldn't be too different. Of course, telling them where we are isn't a very good idea, but talking in generalities shouldn't tip the scales too much and it's not really something we can avoid. Anyway, the RRF probably knows we're there by now and I do want them to show up! What's a party without zombies?! --Ron Burgundy 21:10, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Recruitment Ads

You know, as a member you could always just tack a new timestamp on yourself! :P --Gilant ^talk|DEM 22:07, 14 June 2006 (BST)

No worries, just thought it was funny. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 12:23, 15 June 2006 (BST)

Firefox

Previous message may be found here.

Me too, I love firefox, but the whole dupe thing is broke. Although I think an extention for clearing spam is cool, I would rather not have another extention. --343 13:32, 13 June 2006 (BST)

Suggestion

Previous message may be found here.

Meh, I can take critiscism, no matter how pointless or deameaning it is. It's just bytes on a computer --CaptainM 08:50, 13 June 2006 (BST)

The Forum

Can you check your PMs? Cyberbob Talk 14:10, 12 June 2006 (BST)

I do. I go back and forth. I am in the middle of doing some work on {{locationblock}}, so I may from time to time seem to be unresponsive. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:31, 12 June 2006 (BST)

A prince, sir!

I never said thank you for banning Amazing Xoid. You're a prince! Scinfaxi 00:23, 12 June 2006 (BST)

I was just enforcing the ban for how long it should've been. the original ban was due to LibrarianBrent having the balls to do it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:27, 12 June 2006 (BST)

More Help?

I need some profile help if your not too busy, and seeing as how I'm pretty much copy pasting from your profile, I figured you'd be the man to talk to. If you just go to my user page I'm pretty sure you'll see what I mean. Thanks --CaptainM 05:16, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Alright, I think I mostly nailed it, I just cant get the "contents" section to not be painfully small. If you could help me with that I would be in great debt. --CaptainM 06:19, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Alright, what I was saying about at first (Which I fixed after alot of guess and check) was that I had the sidebar and then the body of my profile was too wide and went behind the sidebar. I'm not sure what you mean about the seperate sized templates, they all look the same size to me, but it might just be my monitor. :) then by what you said about the "{{User:CaptainM/sig}}" did you mean do something like "{{User:CaptainM/Pirate-Template}}" something like that? And, lastly, I dont understand how the custom sig would be mayhem in the talk pages. --CaptainM 07:57, 10 June 2006 (BST)

MMkay, the template part makes perfect sense NOW, and also the template inside a template part, I probably wouldn't have attempted that though because I have the Talk link in my sig and wouldn't want that in a template, thanks for the heads up though. I have 1280x1024 on monitor 1, 1280x1024 on monitor 2, and 1024x768 on monitor 3. Yes yes, I know, ridiculous setup, I usually play alot of Starcraft while editing webpages, or as of recently, wiki pages.

On a side not, I noticed, *ahem*someone*ahem* put something onto yon Disclamers page, does that happen to be fair game or vandalism? --CaptainM 08:18, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Oh, well, it's *ahem*, here, *ahem*, and also, I was just reading the flame war with Dog Deever that has been archived, good lord that was hilarious! I would hate to get on your bad side, even though internet threats can be nearly meaningless, good god you can dish them out! --CaptainM 08:38, 10 June 2006 (BST)

WOAH! It is too linked! Scroll to the very bottom, it has the "About Urban Dead Wiki" link, the "Disclaimers" link, and then the "Powered by Media Wiki" picture, I came across that because I was rather curious of what such disclaimers were. It's on every single page, thus probably explainging why it wouldnt be shown on the "What links here" page. I'd guess thats only assuming you have the default skin, I havn't used any others because they remind me of web pages in the early years of the net. The lame sauce original version of html. Yay for 8-bit everything! --CaptainM 08:51, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Allright, glad I could avoid the bannage :) What do you mean by adbot stuff? --CaptainM 09:09, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Wow, I feel quite special for having inadvertantly helped you find that! I think that pretty much wraps up all my questions. For tonight that is. I would like to thank you for all your help and tolerance. I'm pretty sure I'll have more editing questions soon, since I'm banned from the Newgrounds forum, with which I occupy most of my time. Once again, thank you. Quite greatly. --CaptainM 09:33, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Poo poo, I'm not that familiar at all with Flagboxes at all. --CaptainM 19:37, 10 June 2006 (BST)

I just realized how redundant that is. Good god I need more sleep.

And I forgot to sign that last one, wiki editing is NOPT something to be done at one in the morning after playing a show. --CaptainM 09:15, 11 June 2006 (BST)

The blatant, willful ignorance that Labine50 exemplifies

Short answer? I no longer can. David Malfisto 23:15, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Malton Postal Service

Thanks for the heads-up on the infamous history of my group's name. Was there ever a Malton Postal Service? I tried to search the wiki for evidence of one before I started building the group and didn't turn anything up. I'd rather not change the name, but if there really was a previous group and it had anything to do with PK-ing, I certainly don't want to get entangled with all that. --Bake Hayes 07:10, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Re: Criterion 9

Sorry, I haven't been active in-game or on the wiki in months. I knew nothing of this Criterion 9, and you have my thanks for fixing things for me. - RosutoEnzeru 07:22, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Sig Help

Alright, I was trying to get my sig to work somewhat like yours, here but as you'll be able to see from my sig down below, the time and date stamp looks silly... --CaptainM 23:45, 8 June 2006 (BST)

I'm on it...Nailed it! --Sirens^{T RR} 23:59, 8 June 2006 (BST)

Thankee Mia. Seems anytime I request help on someones Talk page, someone else answers first. Pretty BA if I do say so myself.

You're welcome. And, pardon my ignorance, but "BA"? --Sirens^{T RR} 01:08, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Ah, Dane Cook thing, bad ass whithout having to say words that may offend some, theres also BAMF. --CaptainM 06:16, 10 June 2006 (BST)

Y'know, a Bachelors Degree. --Jimbo Bob ^ASS•U! 01:29, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Darn you for moving it, I was about to do that! --Sirens^{T RR} 01:31, 9 June 2006 (BST)

All must bow before my ninja-like editing reflexes! --Jimbo Bob ^ASS•U! 01:32, 9 June 2006 (BST)

*bows* — there you go Jimbo. Also, your list of revenge killings required on one Roscoe Underborough is… disheartening. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:28, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Ah... at last, the ~~mockery~~ adulation I so richly deserve.

As for Roscoe: it looks that way at first glance, yes, but it gets better when you consider a couple things. First, we assign two points for each kill of an ASS member, and members can tack on bonus points pretty much at their own discretion. He hasn't killed us 17 times, or even half that. Second, and more importantly, the more relevant comparison is between CDF kills of us and our kills on the CDF, as we're not (at the moment) engaging in any coordinated effort to hunt down specific players. When you count it that way, ASS holds a lead that Amazing couldn't count to even by taking off both shoes and his pants. --Jimbo Bob ^ASS•U! 02:35, 9 June 2006 (BST)

Wouldn't it be great

If these were installed? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 04:42, 8 June 2006 (BST)

Response on Kevan's talk page. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:56, 8 June 2006 (BST)

"Rape his corpse"???

Pardon? I don't understand what you are talking about. Care to explain? --The Fifth Horseman 16:01, 7 June 2006 (BST)

Aha, that's what you mean. Well, I wonder how would you react to someone who has created an account that not only mocks your name and description, but falsely alleges to be a member of the same group as yourself - in addition to putting you on the Desensitized Zerg Liste basing on this claim.

(As a side note - if you know who claimed that f***er to be a zerg of mine, please tell me; I'd love to perform a field frontal lobotomy on him.) --The Fifth Horseman 16:10, 7 June 2006 (BST)

Deletions

I've left more speedy deletions for you. Let me know if you want me to hold off for a while. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 09:26, 6 June 2006 (BST)

I was actually researching something at the time, so I couldn't have noticed. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:41, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Sorry

I really am. --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 05:01, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Do you forgive me? --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 08:27, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Nothing to apologise for. You were doing what you thought was right, even if you didn't think it all the way through. Perhaps you've heard of Willy on Wheels? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:29, 6 June 2006 (BST)

No. Who was he? --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 08:33, 6 June 2006 (BST)

A fuck of a lot worse than PQN. Details here. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:34, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Holy shit! --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 08:41, 6 June 2006 (BST)

There are others who are trying to exceed his "record", but none come anywhere close. PQN is a fucking amateur, and I'm glad of that. Ever tried fixing 50 simultaneous page moves? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:45, 6 June 2006 (BST)

Wheels

Sort of. I really didn't like that one very much. And if you read the text on the template I put together I do credit it as an inspiration, so I was obviously aware of it in advance. :P I wanted something that would render more compactly, used more standard colors (in this case using standard map of Malton colors for resource buildings and the generally accepted yellow for EHB designated buildings) and provided hover text for longer descriptions as well as compact text (intended usage) for notes or links. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 17:11, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Just try not to forget any " this time! ;) I'm not sure what you might be thinking was duplicated, other than perhaps the colors for a couple of the location templates. But I wanted to be sure I could fidle with the styles for my template without messing up someone elses - that's why I prepended BP to all of the 'sub'-templates. Also keep in mind that I have a CGI for generating the suburb maps, so any changes to or that effect the usage end should be discussed first. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 17:30, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Delete

I wish there was a way to delete users from the wiki. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 03:43, 5 June 2006 (BST)

There is, but I think that it is not a default part of MediaWiki. (Yes, I know what this is in reference to, but I choose not to bother getting into another hatefest. I did that yesterday.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:45, 5 June 2006 (BST)

I just think it's really stupid that the moderators here have no real power. And that's the last I'll say about that now. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 03:47, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Mattiator

I think we may have driven Mattiator off for good with that 24-hour ban. Which is a shame, because I enjoyed his antics. --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 10:47, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I was thinking the same thing, only replace "enjoyed" with "loathed". –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:49, 4 June 2006 (BST)

It put a bit of spice in wiki life, you know? Gave me something to do besides the boring monotony of servicing deletions, voting on suggestions... *yawn* Excuse me. Just thinking about all that makes me bored. It was exciting with him around. --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 10:51, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I thought all the drama in the last 48 hours would've been enough. Question: why'd you remove yourself from project wiki patrol? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:52, 4 June 2006 (BST)

What drama? That misconduct thing? Yeah, but it wasn't fun. Dealing with braindead n00bs like Mattiator is. I withdrew from Project Wiki Patrol? Are you sure? Check again... :P --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 10:56, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Really. Was dealing with Don D. fun then? Dealing with anyone who acts like a dickhead gets old very quickly. I'm stll wonderin' about the temporary withdrawl from the project. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 10:58, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Don D was a bit different from Mattiator, simply because no-one could be bothered with flaming him except for me. It's no fun being alone in a fight ;) I withdrew from the project because I didn't like my sig with the P! in it. When I realised that I don't actually have to have it, I returned. --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 11:00, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Technically, you don't have to have anything more than a plain signature. It just makes it easier for people to know, "Hey! That dudes a part of Project Welcome/UnWelcome/Wiki Patrol/Etc! –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:03, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I know that... but I like to have some humour in my sig, and having P! in there I would have had to remove something else, which I don't want to. --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 11:04, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Hey! You just gave me an idea. Wait a second, then check out my sig. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:09, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Very nice. That would be too long for me - but hey, it's your sig. --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 11:12, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Maybe I should join Project Welcome, if only to make the thing 1.5x the length of my name. It was just a demonstration by the way. Too long for my tastes. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:15, 4 June 2006 (BST)

:D --A Bothan Spy ^{Mod WTF U!} 11:17, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Re: Huh?

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here.

Huh?

Why did you delete my vote? (Diff Comparision) It's not exactly like I didn't make a valid point. You're not allowed to delete votes, regardless. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:56, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Sorry. May have been a wiki error. Thanks for pointing it out. 343 08:01, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Amazing

My advice is to completely and 100% ignore him. Let him have the last word. Everyone will know what you're doing. If you want to start an arbitration case, I'd be happy to arbitrate it (although he'd probably deny me). –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 05:23, 4 June 2006 (BST)

I've said my piece. Let him stew. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:24, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Project Wiki Patrol

Don't know if you've seen it yet, but something new I started up. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 04:48, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Danke! Wiki has a God.

Cheers, I did not know theres that being the problem. --Changchad ^{WTF•W!•SGP} 11:53, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Just remember, EVERYTHING is case sensitive around here, with the singular exception of the first letter. Even shit that comes after a / in a subpage is case sensitive. Example: UDWiki:Moderation/deletions and UDWiki:Moderation/Deletions. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:56, 3 June 2006 (BST)

ERm, I am a little be confused… on the stats page its Whittenside Medical corps. The wiki is Whittenside Medical Corps. And I checked all the member's group box. Theirs are Whittenside Medical Corps... :/ Never mind, eh. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Changchad (talk • contribs) .

*blinks* What… The… Fuck…? That is seriously weird. Can you give me a link to their profiles? If two people verify this, and it is an actual bug, you can pretty much use the redirect with impunity until the bug is fixed. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 12:08, 3 June 2006 (BST)

[4] [5] [6] [7] There's more, but I think 4 is enough. --Changchad ^{WTF•W!•SGP} 18:39, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Hm… that is just wierd. Very, very wierd. I'll go add my verification to your bug report. I'm wondering, is this an isoloated case? If so, then why? If not, then why won't other groups so affected speak up? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:23, 4 June 2006 (BST)

Policy idea

Check out User:BobHammero/Sandbox/Policy please, and let me know what you think (either here or on that talk page). Thanks. –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:23, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Too slow, I already had. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:24, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Damn. Do you refresh Recent Changes once per minute or something? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:30, 3 June 2006 (BST)

How do you think I get adbots so quickly while online? Or ~~help~~ lynch ~~newbies~~ n00bs as often as I do? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:31, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Pretty much what I said, yeah. Hey, it's not like I can really talk, now is it? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:33, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Anyway, what do you think of my idea? –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 07:34, 3 June 2006 (BST)

Cool signature

Alright, I'll bite. I've noticed you and Cyberbob and some others have cool signatures that automatically update. I know how you're doing it, but how do you keep it from breaking in certain places? (You know, turning mysteriously into <pre></pre> boxes and so on.) I'd like to have signatures like yours, but I can't figure out how to keep that from happening. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 19:44, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Know how anal retentative I am about ensuring that the <noinclude> is on the same line as the last bit of content? That is because any whitespace can fuck it up. You may also have noticed that I sign manually on suggestion pages — template calls within another template call = chaotic mess. Check my talk page archive for other details, or visit Uncyclopedia — every man and his dog has a signature like that over there. (Some of which are fucking hilarious.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 11:00, 2 June 2006 (BST)

OK, I think that answers my question, thanks. Inside templates = bad. I'll just have to sign manually there. Now it's fancy! Bandwagon FTW! –Bob Hammero ^{Mod•B'crat•T•A} 22:19, 2 June 2006 (BST)

In case you care

Kyoto Protocal: total BS -Karlsbad 14:27, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Karlsbad, if you had of read the description, this section is for serious shit. Not quibbling over this.

To counter your claim that it's total BS: Of course a bunch of trees won't change jack shit on their own. The only real way to clean up the air is to stop filling it with shit, and make sure there is enough economy of scale with tree plantations to deal with it. That is going to take more than the Kyoto Protocol, but that doesn't mean that the Kyoto Protocol is "total BS", it means that it doesn't take things far enough. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:34, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Yet considering that China is using this loop-hole to manufacture Carbon Credits (when the actions actually HARM the enviornment considering that the growth period of a harvested tree is 15 years yet the Carbon Deficit period of a tree is 10) so as to pollute their enviornment even more, you realise that you can't ignore one gaping flaw in a law simply because it was made with good intentions. --Karlsbad 14:37, 1 June 2006 (BST)

(I'm gonna be facetious here.) It's still all America's fault, if your insane sue-anything-that-moves lawyers had of drafted the protocol, we wouldn't be in this situation. </Yahoo Serious> It's 12:13 in the morning, my eyes feel like they're bleeding, and you expected me to read the whole article? Or think straight for that matter. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:14, 1 June 2006 (BST)

They did, guess who was the biggest supporter of trees being used for carbon credits? USA forced it in the treaty against EU objections. --Vista 17:01, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Alright, it's still all the American's fault. S'all good. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:04, 5 June 2006 (BST)

Who are you, and what have you done with Xoid?

You're slipping! Emphasis added:

(For the latter. Which I really should caught on to quicker. It's not like Uncyclopedia's "You've got nude massages." didn't have prepared me ...)

Yuo haev gud gramur! ;-) --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 03:44, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Hey, when you type at 70-80 words a minute, there are bound to be a few spelling or grammatical mistakes here and there. Especially when you are a touch typist who is completely self taught. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 03:49, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Yes, I'm working on another project

See User:BobHammero/Good Editing Practices (to be moved to the Help namespace when it's more complete) which uses my new Template:Contribute. I couldn't find anything like either of those. If you're feeling bored, feel free to jot down things I've forgotten. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 03:39, 1 June 2006 (BST)

You're Important to me, why?

Previous message may be found here.

Seriously, maybe you ought to make a reference to things when you ask others to change them, or to change their method of operation. Common courtesy that anyone would learn from normal social interaction. -Brickpile Jones 02:53, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here.

"…comments on your own talk page, other's talk pages, suburb updates, etc…"

Yeah, because that really references things.

That's about as good as saying "It's on a page somewhere. Most likely in this Wiki. Search for it." --Brickpile Jones 03:09, 1 June 2006 (BST)

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABrickpile_Jones&diff=269818&oldid=269811

That was Duce Nauk's, why would I talk to myself. --Brickpile Jones 03:24, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here.

No Problem

I just do it, because after every counter argument I make, I can just see him smashing his keyboard in rage. He always immediately changes the subject afterward too. Well, I respect your request, and It is good to find another Maddox fan. I just can't wait to illustrate this. I happen to hold a page, War Of The Nerds, that depicts Hayduke (In all his infinite glory) at his computer. If you don't feel like reading it, diregard my last sentance. Well, thank you for directly messaging me. Have a good night. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Duce Nauks (talk • contribs) .

It was already posted before you messaged me, just look at the timestamps. Don't get disgruntled at me man. Thanks for the warning anyway. --Duce Nauks 19:15, 1 June 2006 (BST)

BME Brent?

I think Legend X doesn't check other changes when he wants to revert to something, so he probably didn't check to see that Librarian Brent had been fixed to a proper link, and then just reverted to his version because he saw I'd fixed the spelling in "List" thereby killing the brent link. -Banana Bear 17:51, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Well that's handy. *sigh* You try and fix dead links, and some numbnut hell bent on making a sentence make no sense goes and reverts it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:56, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Its like a jungle out here. -Banana Bear 18:14, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Confused

Ack! Nevermind, I figured out the mistake I kept making. I kept inserting the information AFTER the "pipe" instead of before it, I know I sound like a retard but I'm not used to so many codes! Well thanks for everything. This should be the last time I bother you. --Captain Pirate 05:23, 1 June 2006 (BST)

I got your message and I was making a group page, I was "filling in the blanks" and when I viewed the preview of the page there was the group box, but the group name etc. weren't filled in, instead it said Groupname {{{group_name}}}. Is there supposed to be a code I put around the text I enter in the groupbox? --Captain Pirate 05:19, 1 June 2006 (BST)

I'll jump in here: your error is quite simple. The |'s need to go after the values you put in, not before them. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 05:22, 1 June 2006 (BST)

Rejoining the MPD

Great! :D Just go post on the Join the MPD thread that you were once a member and would like to rejoin, and be sure to include the profile ID of the character. You should be reactivated later that day. We run a training academy now for new recruits, which you could opt out of as a past member. But if you don't go through The Academy I'd suggest going through the curriculum and reference library anyway as a refresher on how the MPD/DEM works internally. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 16:45, 30 May 2006 (BST)

n00b

yeah I didn't really read your page so i just put my message wherever. I don't sign things mostly out of laziness, why does it bother you so much? The Project UnWelcome thing just seems bent, it would be easier to have told me what I had done wrong and how to do it right. If i fucked up again then it makes sense. --Dr. Love Duke

Next message may be found here.

Sorry, you have been helpful. The only parts of your page I read gave me a bad impresion of you. Having read some more of your page I guess I was wrong. -- Dr.Love Duke12:27, 31 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Not Wiki Gate2?

Previous message may be found here.

So don't start it yourself. Infact if it looking like it's going to turn out that way, i'll make sure the page is protected untill the case is handled. I'm seriously tired of this drama. In fact stand by to protect it as soon as I ask for it. Nipping all the drama in the bud is the best for this wiki.--Vista 19:21, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Too true. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 19:26, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Wiki drama needs to die a slow and painful death. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 19:29, 29 May 2006 (BST)

As I said to Mia once before, in any community that consists of more than one person, fuckwits inevitably slip in. (I'm cynical, in case you can't notice.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xoid (talk • contribs) 19:39, 29 May 2006 (BST).

I happen to agree with you. Well, mostly. I think it's possible to have a fuckwit in a community of one person, too. ;-) --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 19:39, 29 May 2006 (BST)

As my non-signage demonstrates. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 19:43, 29 May 2006 (BST)

I couldn't resist throwing your template in there. Oh, hey, got any wiki projects for me? --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 19:47, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Or even, what is the deal okay with User:BobHammero/Editor's Toolbox? Help files for the win? --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 19:48, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Projects? Yes, I have one… We'll need to marshall our forces and… um… not at the moment. (Gonna get some Zzzzzz. Me sleepy. G'night.) PS: Move the Quick Reference guide to the help section, and whack a link to it in the help navigation template. List BobHammero/Toolbox for deletion if you want, and I'll — hehe — hammer it for you before I go take a snooze. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 19:52, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Cool, thanks. Up for deletion, moved to Help:Quick Reference, added to Template:EditHelpMenu. --Bob Hammero ^T•W!•U! 20:00, 29 May 2006 (BST)

Template:Manbagz

Hi, just wondering what you said in the page. Also, you like it?--William Raker 14:40, 28 May 2006 (BST)

"Harmanz agrahzahn zah zalrhl zombah'z manbagz, rargh?" -> "Humans understand the value [of a] zombie's testicles, right?" :-D –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:43, 28 May 2006 (BST)

Template: N00b hater

I'd change the pic, if I were you... otherwise it's great. --A Bothan Spy^{CDF - WTF - U!} 07:56, 28 May 2006 (BST)

It's not my template, I was merely repairing it. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:59, 28 May 2006 (BST)

My suggestion

Oh, you vote on the book one, but not mine? I feel hurt. :-( (P.S.: I'm not really a wuss.) --Bob Hammero ^W!•U! 09:20, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Also, I emailed you. --Bob Hammero ^W!•U! 09:25, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I'm in the process of writing an insulting message to the idiots who claim that this will use "HTTP states" as one claimed before. There is no reason why that is required. I like the idea, it's not overpowering — a survivor without gun skills (or ammo) is currently useless against a zombie, but this still won't tip it in the survivor's favour. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:32, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Awesome! Thank you. I know, I'm getting really tired of tech-wannabes screaming "STATELESS!" at me. I've actually done web programming; I kind of know how these things are done. --Bob Hammero ^W!•U! 09:35, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Stupidity template

Cyberbob and I thought you'd like this: Template:Stupidity. --Bob Hammero ^W!•U! 08:14, 25 May 2006 (BST)

*grins* - The moment I finish splitting my page into seperate sections, I'll add it. (Maintaining that monstrosity is a bitch.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:23, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I also have a small offering, to be used in the same way as Template:Ohsnap. Here it is :D --A Bothan Spy^{CDF - WTF - U!} 08:27, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Seriously, I'm almost thinking about starting a Project Thinking or something. Why do people have to harm me with their un-thoughts? :-( --Bob Hammero ^W!•U! 08:31, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I'd wait until the furor over Project:Pickle (*shudder*) is well and truly past before starting such a thing. I'd be with you all the way, though, were you to actually go ahead and start it. --A Bothan Spy^{CDF - WTF - U!} 08:33, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I was mainly kidding. I just wish people would think before they type. --Bob Hammero ^W!•U! 08:36, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I never really got the "Oh snap" thing. A pop culture reference of some sort? (I get the "someone just got served" part, just not the "Oh snap".) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:35, 25 May 2006 (BST)

OK, I'm getting confused with this double conversation. @ Bob: Me too. @ Xoid: I have no idea either. But do you like the template? --A Bothan Spy^{CDF - WTF - U!} 08:38, 25 May 2006 (BST)

I positvely <3 the template. (I was originally trying to make the heart surreptiously look like a butt plug, but ASCII "art" isn't my strong point. No, don't ask.) I do like the "Speling" template. Perhaps you've noticed my typo correction summaries? "I haet typos" or the ever popular "Spel-Chek"? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:42, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Mattiator

See this and this. I have a Deletion bid going for the template. Feel free to place your vote. --A Bothan Spy^{CDF - WTF - U!} 07:06, 24 May 2006 (BST)

I saw it. Will vote on it the moment I can think of a civil way to call Mattiator a petulant child. Wait, I just did. Be there in a moment. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:11, 24 May 2006 (BST)

MPD Member

Unless that character went off on a PKing spree before you retired him, they are always welcome to return! :) Or you can start up someone new if you never really warmed up to Anton. But the category is really intended for currently active members. Though to be honest I'm still not convinced of it's usefulness, but I figure I'll give it a few more weeks to see if it catches on or not. --Gilant ^talk|DEM 15:47, 22 May 2006 (BST)

lol glad you found it. I just copy & pasted the section from the original, as I couldn't see what had gone wrong other than removing some spaces. There had been two separate issues. First, the edit you made caused the background color in the title to disapear, which you sorted out before I responded. The other thing I removed was the 'includeonly' as I like having the template be displayed there for people to see. Just a personal thing. Otherwise I really liked your solution a lot and have already applied it to a number of our other templates and pages. Thanks!!! --Gilant ^talk|DEM 17:35, 26 May 2006 (BST)

It's always the little things, ain't it? I damn near hit my head against the table for missing that; normally I'm pedantic about having perfectly legal syntax in my code. "It's only a little change, no real chance of it breaking stuff. Stuff the preview buttion… *save!*" — we saw how well that worked out, didn't we? ;-) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:41, 26 May 2006 (BST)

Signature

Is it really that annoying? I guess it probably is, I did add it to get peoples attention. Oh well if you think it should go I guess I've got little choice… Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 11:17, 22 May 2006 (BST)

I've taken it out for now, I'd link it directly to the I.U.S.S page if I knew how… Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 07:37, 23 May 2006 (BST)

I've been trying to get make a tiny image for you that doesn't look screwy. It's not working: JPGs and resampling rarely do. I've also tried manually clearing it up, but unless you've got someone with the right skills and tools for the job it'll never amount to much. I can't think of a way for it to link without having an actually smaller image, because the trick to do it involves ~~abusing~~ using external links — which don't resize. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 08:29, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Why the blanking...

Previous message may be found here.

I'm not on this wiki as often as I used to be anymore. AllStarZ 15:03, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Freddie, Dog turds and Deletions

Previous message may be found here.

Well, at least there's humour value in a dog turd — more than can be said for Freddie Mercury. (Although, 'I Want to Break Free' is a bit surreal.) I've posted up a Speedy Deletions request for that image. Just hope i haven't stuffed it up too! I reckon a lot of the 'vandalism' is caused by over enthusiasm, wanting to be involved before you're really equipped. It's so easy to forget stuff, and get things mixed up when you're unfamiliar with it all. Though instant bans should definately be enforced for anyone uploading pictures of Freddie Mercury!! I really don't mind long posts — they can be archived when I get round to figuring that out! Anyway, thanks again, perhaps we'll meet in Malton, but more likely here, pointing out another of my blunders! Dog Deever 19:31, 19 May 2006 (BST)

The Freddie Mercury picture was for a gag, that the "victim" thereof decided to upload a copy of her avatar so that the gag would make more sense. Now the gag is only mildly obscure, instead of plain obscure. As for archival, it's simple. See the "move tab" next to the "history tab" at the top? Click on move, and it'll come up with a "Where to, Mac? An' why?" screen. If you wanted to archive User talk:Dog Deever simply write "User talk:Dog Deever/Archive"

History lesson #495,412: Back slashes are something to be avoided on the web. Hell, the only reason Microsoft used 'em was because they stuffed up, using a forward slash for parameters being passed to an executable. Now it's too heavily entrenched to change. So remember kiddies, ~~fnord slash~~ forward slash while on the web.

Type a reason if you feel like it. (Since it's in your user space, no one has a right to complain unless you are moving shitloads of stuff just 'cause you feel like it.) Then click on the "my talk" at the very top. You'll be redirected. There will be a little "you have been redirected from blah" message. Click on that link. You'll see what a redirect looks like when viewing it. Click on the "edit tab" and go nuts. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 02:59, 20 May 2006 (BST)

Total side-note

You deserve a cookie. I laughed, twice; once when I first saw it, and then writing this. --Karlsbad 07:35, 17 May 2006 (BST)

Why, thank you sir! –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 07:46, 17 May 2006 (BST)

5th of November

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here.

Would you mind if I altered your support to read as:

Anonymous - I'll fight, but it could be hopeless because as George S. Patton said: "Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.". The issue is zombies can't die, but I still have a good feeling about this.

–Xoid ^S•T•FU! 05:37, 16 May 2006 (BST)

I wouldn't mind. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Labine50 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 16 May 2006 (BST).

Don D Crummitt

Have you seen his last few edits? Made ANOTHER "talk" page and… well, I'll let you see his vote on my bid for yourself. NOTE: He's basing that off of ONE comment I made to him. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 16:53, 15 May 2006 (BST)

This is why I HATE n00bs. 'Cause more trouble than they're worth. Big difference between newbs and n00bs. At least the newb blood is willing to learn. Retards… don't. Maybe they've been dropped on their head as a baby, I don't know. But my "Xenophobia" is more than understandable.

PS: Ego? Really. I may be egotistical, but we are talking flame warrior definitions here, and that one doesn't match me. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 16:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Maybe I didn't read it thoroughly enough. I'll go back and have another look… --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 16:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)

PS: That list isn't intended as an insult. It's just objctive fact. Hell, if it was subjective, would I really have described myself the way I did? :) --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 16:58, 15 May 2006 (BST)

OK, I just re-read it. You're absolutely right. I'll change it right away :) --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 16:59, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Objective fact: I'm an arsehole. And I'm proud of it. ;) (Catch the quote?) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:00, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Is it from that song by that guy? I can't remember his name… --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 17:02, 15 May 2006 (BST)

That makes two of us. No wait, I just remembered - Dennis Leary (I spelt it wrong, I'm certain of it), from the Dance of the Headless Bourgeoise album, IIRC. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:05, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Now I remember! You spelt it correctly. NOTE: have you seen Don's comment on my "talk" page? --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 17:06, 15 May 2006 (BST)

God forbid. Can you link me up, I'm sorta lazy. Oh, and don't think about adding the "perv" tag if you read the bit about the midgets on my user page. I'm telling you I wish I never read that /. article. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:08, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Linkage: Here --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 17:11, 15 May 2006 (BST)

PS: SEE THE COMMENT HE LEFT ON MY USER PAGE!!!! HE'S MINE!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!! --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 17:11, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Dear fools. Got my warning, thanks, not that I care. Cyberbob, I'm yours now (whatever that means). But Xoid, get lost mate. Not your war. Don D Crummitt 18:52, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Inbred dipshits like you are my war. In case you haven't noticed I FUCKING HATE n00bs. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:53, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Hey Xoid, I'll cover Donny for ya if you want to head to bed. -Karlsbad 18:56, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Thanks heaps. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Na prob. --Karlsbad 18:57, 15 May 2006 (BST)

So Karl, I take it you're in on this too, despite your personal mission statement. Meh. Xoid, I have refrained from insulting you. I only told you to get lost. I guess you've taking as a personal insult because I've hurt your boy friend's feelings. I'm sorry. I hope you're nicely tucked up in bed now though, snuggling your sausage between Cyberbob's cosy little arse cheeks. Prick. Don D Crummitt 19:38, 15 May 2006 (BST)

If you read my mission statement, I did say that I would only comment the issues. I've not gone out of my way to ever call you out. Even here, I'm talking about the issue of your response, rather than noting how you've yet to contribute anything to prove that you are worth the bandwidth you expend. Me and Xoid, along with Conndraka, are currently invested in a project, and so I know that for one he's about 12 hours off of me and could use the rest. He has proven to me that his time is worth something, so therefore I submit my own time to cover an issue he cares about (you, doucheness, etc) that I also happen to care about (a clean wiki, doucheness, etc) so that he can use his time effectively.
So instead of proving that you aren't worth the time you invest or anyone else invests in reading again and again, and because you now can't even garner some sick kind of name recognition by vandalizing CyberBob again with Vista's warning ontop of your head, how about instead of doing Jack Crap, you fill in a suburb on the Locations List? You might actually get a positive response in the future. --Karlsbad 20:00, 15 May 2006 (BST)

Granted, but I hadn't done anything to Xoid. If he cares so much about "doucheness" he would not have needed to start insulting me. He aggravated the situation, and didn't need to. he got involved because he wanted a fight, and I told him to back off several times. I understand loyalty to your friends, but in your defence of Xoid, you're a hypocrite in regards to the above. That's not an insult, so please don't take offense, but it is criticism. I don't want another enemy. I've said my piece on Cyberbob's moderation page, and I also admitted I was wrong for the act of vandalism, although I won't apologise to Cyberbob for vandalising his page. Petty, ain't it? Don D Crummitt 10:30, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Next message may be found here here.

What important point? WHAT IS IT? TELL ME NOW! :D --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - U!} 14:43, 16 May 2006 (BST)

The allowing a single incident to taint his entire view of you. We've had it out before, but I'd say you're more stable than most of the mods I've met at Wikipedia. You're still moderator potential, as long as you can restrain your impulses. His getting overwrought over you bein' unfriendly isn't good enough reason — Grim has gotten into fights, some heated. As long as they calm down afterward and what needs to be done, gets done, standing against someone for a simple disagreement is… wrong. Just like the fight I had with Dog Deever — if he wanted to maintain the moral highground… you remember.

I can't hate him, the anger just ain't enough. Anyone who can admit they're wrong has got some balls. Unfortunately, his outright refusal to apologise to you negates most of the effect of his admission.

Incidentally, have you seen the minor maintenance work I did on Project UnWelcome?

PS: You never did comment about the midgets ^_^ –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:58, 16 May 2006 (BST)

OK. I saw the work: looking better now! And midgets? What midgets? Am I missing out on midgets? :'(

PS: What do you think of my post(s) on Don's talk page? I'm fairly proud of it/them, actually. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - U!} 15:06, 16 May 2006 (BST)

In terms of "quality" flaming, yeah it is, mainly 'cause it's varied, unlike the boring shit most flamewarriors write. But that you are seeking my "approval" is… worrying. Although I might just be looking too far into things here. The midgets… read up. I made a comment about midgets. You'll find your way from there. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:15, 16 May 2006 (BST)

The midget comment… is interesting, to say the least. My eyes are soiled!!! In a moment of absolute foolishness I looked up Gidget the Midget! NOOOOOO!!!!!

PS: I'm prone to bouts of insecurity. That's why I seeked your opinion. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - U!} 15:19, 16 May 2006 (BST)

PPS: <solemn>I direct you here. Especially note the last dot point, but still read the others… *shakes head sadly*</solemn> --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - U!} 15:22, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Midget porns a bitch, ain't it? Two guys were having a very indepth discussion in one of Slashdot's articles a while back. I still can't burn the image from my mind, 'cause like you, I didn't follow that advice. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:28, 16 May 2006 (BST)

But what about my PPS? WHAT ABOUT IT? IT HAS FEELINGS TOO! --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - U!} 15:31, 16 May 2006 (BST)

He would have a point there if I hadn't of surreptiously called you a cunt. In which case a "oh shut up" kind of comment would've been permissable, even without my "real mature" comment. As to the other two comments, when people ask you things, you're generally calm and reasonable. So the point about dealing with people who ask you things is invalid. As for the point where the one arguement is a good enough reason, I consider it invalid simply because an admin doesn't need to be lovey dovey to deal with deletions and such. Could he question some of your suitability? Yes. Basing it all on the exchanges that you started? Maybe. Stop going back and antagonising him, there is no need to make things worse than the mess they are now. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:43, 16 May 2006 (BST)

That was the whole point of my last post. I said I would never answer anything by him again, and I mean it. With the sole exception of public pages. I can't let him badmouth me in public without some form of reply. I'll keep all future replies polite, however. If I don't give him any more ammunition, he'll eventually run out of steam. NOTE: See his comment on my modship bid. I'm kind of getting annoyed at this guy, now… --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - U!} 15:47, 16 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Feedback

Previous message may be found here.

erm... you do realize that it was I the one who placed the Example User feedback on my feedback section ?! --hagnat ^mod 18:27, 12 May 2006 (BST)

o_O um… *is red faced* Considering that there is a user with the name Example User nowdays, can you understand how I got confused? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 18:47, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Mod Bid

I'm sending this message out to everyone who had spoken on my modship bid. Recently it was suggested that I wipe the slate clean and start over with a new bid. I decided against this for two main reasons: First, I don't want to risk causing any drama, and Second, I don't want to risk people on either side not being heard the second time around.

I am, however, asking anyone who has spoken to take a moment of thier time to review the case and deatermine if they need to change thier vote or, more than likely, keep it as is. Thank you. --Sirens^{T RR} 14:55, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Excuse Me, But...

Previous message may be found here here.

Just in response to your recent message: I'm not very technically inclined and as such I wasn't sure if the archive I created was the correct way to do so, if you can confirm that it was created and titled correctly then I will provide a link to it on my page, that is also the reason why I haven’t moved all my messages there. Once again if you can confirm that it was correctly created I will move them there henceforth. As for your third point that 'in character info' was actually a message from a member requesting to join my alliance. Again I will move it upon confirmation. Just a quick question, I’m flattered that you care about my talk page, but why were you checking it? Kripcat 08:35, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Hm… if the character info was signed I would've been able to recognise as such, but since you archived the page and left that there, I thought that it was something you wrote. I didn't pay much attention as I was digging through the history, as I was mainly looking to catch up on a conversation you had earlier. If I recall correctly, it had something to do with F.R.E.E.Z.E. and the IWM being at each others throats.

The reason I was looking? I've got a good memory, and I'm a curious bugger, so it's a bit like walking in halfway through a movie; you catch just enough to pique your interest, but not enough to know what was going on.

As for the archive, adding {{archiveNotice|ArchiveName=Archive}} should work. If you wanted to customise that message a bit, you can add {{Subst:archiveNotice|ArchiveName=Archive}} and save the page. Then the code from inside the template will be copied to the page, and you can alter it as you see fit from there. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 09:22, 12 May 2006 (BST)

Rage Against the Machine

Previous message may be found here.

You're kidding me right? I wouldn't know anything about 'em…

"The teacher stands in front of the class,

but the lesson plan he can't recall,

the student's eyes can't perceive the lies bouncin' off every fuckin' wall.

His composure is well kept, I guess he fears playin' the fool,

the students just sit and listen to that bullshit that he learned in school!

Europe ain't my rope to swing on,

can't learn a thing from it,

yet we hang from it,

Gotta get, gotta get it together then,

yeah… like the motherfuckin' weathermen!"

Nope not a thing. ^_^ –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:14, 5 May 2006 (BST)

I goddamn love RAtM. What's your favourite song? I've got a whole bunch - People of the Sun, Bulls on Parade, Testify, Calm Like A Bomb, Vietnow and Ashes in the Fall. Note that none of these are in their first album. That's purely because I've listened to it for ages, and have only fairly recently started to listen to Evil Empire and The Battle of Los Angeles. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 17:18, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Favourite song? Dunno really, I know which songs I love… "Sleep Now in the Fire", "Born of a Broken Man", "Ashes in the Fall", and those are just from the "new" album. I listen to the whole albums (RAtM & Battle of LA — too poor and lazy to go get Evil Empire) , and as long as the music's going I can match De la Rocha in both the tone, pitch, etc. of his voice and his all the words.

Side note: what are you doing up at this hour young man? 15? Australia, It's at least 23:25, and anywhere upwards of that depending on how slow my computer's clock is, and whether you live in Perth or not. (Heh, calling someone "young man" when I'm only 20. That's a hoot.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 17:27, 5 May 2006 (BST)

Answer to the side note: It's actually later than that. I'm in Melbourne, so it's 02:30 here. I'm up this late simply because it's Friday, and I can. :P

PS: Take the time to get Evil Empire. Do it right now. It's worth the effort. Trust me. --Cyberbob240^{CDF - Arb - W!} 17:30, 5 May 2006 (BST)

I love RATM too, as if you couldn't have guessed! "Fuck you! I won't do what you tell me!" --Dog Deever 14:39, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Where did you get the Idea that I've even heard about this "RAtM"? You must have a "Bullet in the Head". (I really hope this doesn't devolve into a quoting match, coming up with ever more obscure references and trying to make a sensible sentence out of them.) –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 15:39, 13 May 2006 (BST)

Re: Sweet Zombie Jesus!

RELOCATED — This part of discussion originally appeared here.

Sweet Zombie Jesus!

You do know there is a preview button, right? –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 13:51, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Sorry about that, I'm not much good with these new fangled things, I only grew up learning about them in every second class through Primary and High school… I will in the future use the preview button. (Which now seems embarisingly obvious). It is good to see another Australian on Urban Dead. Kripcat 14:08, 24 April 2006 (BST)

We are suprisingly prolific on the web. I "run" into Aussies all the time. Quite suprising considering our small population base. You might want to note that it is usually considered poor form to remove stuff from the talk page. You can archive older discussions, if they are clogging up your page. Of course, garbage posted by adbots and such need not be archived, but I think that goes without saying. –Xoid ^S•T•FU! 14:34, 24 April 2006 (BST)

Re: Vote you for mod?

Previous message may be found here.

Heh, thanks for moderation vote. I think your edit history gives you some credibility :-) --Brizth ^{W! M T} 20:24, 23 April 2006 (BST)

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