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This is the archive page for UDWiki:Administration/Deletions. This page represents all Deletions archived in the month of April 2009.

L.I.A

Created on the 10th of March but no edits since bar Link and Boxy. Consists only of a note saying the page is under construction. User has since set up another group with a much more completed page. -- Cheese 16:04, 19 April 2009 (BST)

  1. Delete - Unused, orphaned and gathering dust. -- Cheese 16:04, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete - Crit. 1.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:39, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  3. Delete - --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:23, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Speedy Delete --Janus talk 19:46, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Delete Linkthewindow  Talk  07:47, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  6. Delete - DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:33, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  7. Keep - Did you do the sensible thing and ask the user on their talk page first? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:22, 21 April 2009 (BST)
  8. Delete Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 23:46, 22 April 2009 (BST)
  9. Delete --WanYao 22:57, 25 April 2009 (BST)
  • Deleted--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:29, 9 May 2009 (BST)

Room 215

Created in January but nothing has happened since then. One line of text, and a group box. -- Cheese 16:04, 19 April 2009 (BST)

  1. Delete - Unused, orphaned and gathering dust. -- Cheese 16:04, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  2. Delete - --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:23, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete --Janus talk 19:46, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Delete Linkthewindow  Talk  07:47, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Delete - DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:33, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  6. Delete Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 23:46, 22 April 2009 (BST)
  7. Delete --WanYao 22:57, 25 April 2009 (BST)
  • Deleted--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:29, 9 May 2009 (BST)

Some abandoned groups

DR DEAD ZED

Set up on the 27th of March (the user has since gone on to create the MALTON CITIZEN BRIGADE on the 12th) with no further edits to this page bar categorisation. -- Cheese 15:17, 18 April 2009 (BST)

  1. Delete - Unused and seemingly abandoned. -- Cheese 15:17, 18 April 2009 (BST)
  2. Delete - crit 1. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:31, 18 April 2009 (BST)
  3. Delete Linkthewindow  Talk  07:47, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Keep - Did you do the sensible thing and ask the user on their talk page first? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:10, 21 April 2009 (BST)
    Yes. :P --Janus talk 14:06, 21 April 2009 (BST)
    Deletion brought on the 18th, user asked on the 19th. Tell me what's backwards about that process? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 14:33, 21 April 2009 (BST)
    Aw, just wanted to point out that I'm sensitive :'( On a serious note, this group is kinda new, so it should be kept.. and then probably deleted in a month if it stays inactive. Just my opinion. --Janus talk 14:52, 21 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Delete Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 23:46, 22 April 2009 (BST)
  6. keep until the creator replies. if it's done with then speedy. --WanYao 22:59, 25 April 2009 (BST)
  • Deleted--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:29, 9 May 2009 (BST)

D.G.

Set up 4th of March, no edits since then bar categorisation. The user created C.C.G. last month which appears to be slightly more active in that it has had some expansion on the original content. -- Cheese 15:17, 18 April 2009 (BST)

  1. Delete - Unused and seemingly abandoned. -- Cheese 15:17, 18 April 2009 (BST)
  2. Delete - practically crit 1. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:31, 18 April 2009 (BST)
  3. Delete --Janus talk 19:46, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Delete Linkthewindow  Talk  07:47, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Keep - Did you do the sensible thing and ask the user on their talk page first? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:11, 21 April 2009 (BST)
  6. Delete Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 23:46, 22 April 2009 (BST)
  • Deleted--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 12:29, 9 May 2009 (BST)

卐Nazis of Malton卐

I'm surprised no one else has put this up yet. Though it is indeed only a day old. Anyway, going for Crit 2. For obvious reasons which I should not need to explain. This is just plain wrong. Its noticeable that it did say that it does not condone reallife nazism though the author has already removed that statement. I know this is the UD wiki, but I really hope no one is going to vote keep here.--Thadeous Oakley 15:02, 19 April 2009 (BST)

  1. Delete - This shit doesn't belong here, nor anywhere else for that matter.--Thadeous Oakley 15:08, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  2. Tentative Keep - The group does exist in-game, however I would endorse a move that would take the swastikas out of the title. However that is how the group is shown on the stats page. I agree that creating a group of this nature was probably a bad move and very insensitive (in fact blatantly so) and it probably shouldn't have been done. -- Cheese 15:12, 19 April 2009 (BST) Speedy Delete as per author request. -- Cheese 22:19, 21 April 2009 (BST)
    The fact that the group exists in-game, makes it a justification? You should note that the group is likely one person zerging. So many members, in such a short time-span and with an average level of 1?--Thadeous Oakley 15:17, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    The Dead.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:18, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    The Dead? LUE? Shacknews? They all gained a huge number of members in one go. While I'm not saying that isn't a zerg group, it is possible its a bunch of folk off a forum all signing up together. -- Cheese 15:22, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  3. Keep - Nice free speech mang --Cyberbob 15:13, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Keep - As much as I hate the Nazi party, if someone wants a group called that, there is nothing in the guidelines stopping them from using a Nazi theme for their group and having a page of it. Also, it's not Crit. 2, as their group page is actually UD related. I'd like to see it go, as it will probably become defunct within a month, but right now it's not against any rules.Delete - Author wiped and asked for deletion.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:13, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Keep - If Kevan is fine with the group being on the stats page, we should be fine with it being on the wiki. --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 15:23, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  6. Keep - Last bastion of free speech and all that... --Pestolence(talk) 15:45, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  7. Keep - The Nazi Party of Malton has been here for that long, and nobody cared. And as an information archive, the UDWiki doesn't delete pages based on "zerg probabilities". I hate the page, but it's only harming those who are silly enough to take him seriously. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:07, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    Speedy Delete. As per recent user request and page wipe. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:22, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  8. Delete violates TOU. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 17:16, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    How exactly? --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 17:17, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    卐 is Considered Content that is both racially and ethnically objectionable, even illegal in certain areas. The Disclaimer on the talk page isn't enough as the 卐 can be seen without actually visiting the page. No..I'm not Jewish but a couple of the players I know are and they ARE the type to throw a shitstorm over the presence of Nazi BS. Remember the "White Storm Rising" situation we had a couple of years back? Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 17:26, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    A swastika by itself, without context, definitely shouldn't be considered that (hindu use and so on). The page itself contains no racially or ethnically objectionable content. As far as I know, it's illegal only in Germany, which isn't England or Wales and that's is all that matters on this wiki (as far as legality is concerned). And no, I don't remember any "White Storm Rising". --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 18:06, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    White storm (And Black Storm) were both heavily racist pages. The content of the page is not entirely known to me, because I was too busy to lurk here during that time and missed it. Both pages ended up being deleted. But comparing what little I've been told to this case, using their deletions as a base to delete this would be incorrect as the Nazi party can and currently is being represented in a non-racially offensive manner. They may be hateful to members of the Communist party, as described on their page, but that is allowed under our guidelines.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 18:20, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    Special:Undelete/Operation_White_Storm and Special:Undelete/Operation_Black_Storm. Brought to you by The Faggots, as a griefing tool to try to associate their enemies with white supremestism by making out they were holding a fake white pride meeting in their HQ -- boxy talk • teh rulz 01:12 20 April 2009 (BST)
    Thank you mister Box. Sometimes I forget I can view deleted pages now. :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:15, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  9. Keep - As SA, Midianian, etc. --Papa Moloch 17:38, 19 April 2009 (BST)
  10. Keep even if unwillingly. --Janus talk 19:46, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    Speedy, crit 7. --Janus talk 23:11, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  11. Delete It is is not about free speech, this is Zerging, it is obvious. For that reason it needs to go. --Niteaxe 00:43, 20 April 2009 (BST)
    SARG. --Janus talk 01:29, 20 April 2009 (BST)
    Proof? --Pestolence(talk) 02:57, 20 April 2009 (BST)
    If I had the server logs I would have the proof. Unfortunately I have to go with the obvious, and it is obvious. It's cool, let it there and the page will be up again for deletion in a couple months when this one guy gets tired of logging in to 49 accounts. I figured we would just get it out of the way now since he lacked taste. --Niteaxe 04:15, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  12. Keep FFS this is a game that endorses killing folk and eating their brains, getting het up about the use of 60 year old symbols is a bit much... --Honestmistake 00:55, 20 April 2009 (BST)
    Keep -- boxy talk • teh rulz 01:12 20 April 2009 (BST)
  13. Keep - This is HILARIOUS, why get rid of it? All I see from them is radio spam to join the group. Wait until they actually break a rule before trying to extinguish free speech. Try to avoid the irony and not be wiki-Nazis, guys. --DTangent 04:36, 20 April 2009 (BST)
    Well said. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:18, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  14. Extremely Ambivalent Keep -- Pretty much as Cyberbob and SA. I dislike the Nazi Party, but don't think this should be deleted. Nearly anyone can get offended by anything, and we can't really set this precedent (Oh, and "this group zergs" isn't really a good way to argue a deletion case.) Linkthewindow  Talk  07:43, 20 April 2009 (BST)
    The author has replaced the page asking for it to be deleted. So Speedy - crit 7. Linkthewindow  Talk  15:15, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  15. Keep - and their work here is done.--xoxo 14:11, 20 April 2009 (BST)
  16. Speedy -- boxy talk • teh rulz 01:03 21 April 2009 (BST)
  17. Keep - If only to counteract Conndraka's erroneous and blatantly wrong interpretation of British Law. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:09, 21 April 2009 (BST)
  18. Delete I think it is ridicules that there even is an option to let them stay. In my opinion it is irony then people in a democracy support the Nazis, a group and an anti-democratic ideology that strive for extermination and censuring of other people. When those democratic people motivate there opinions they refer to the Nazis right to express them self in the name of the freedom of speech and democracy. What’s wrong with those guys? How can they support an anti-democratic movement and say it is for the freedom of speech? How does the silencing and murdering of millions do a group to something we have to accept in preserving democracy? A group that want to extinguish democracy in fact! If we believe in democracy, we have to take a stand against the people how wish to turn our democracy in to a government of terror and dictatorship. Even if this is a game, I think it’s important to make clear that we don’t tolerate behaviours and actions like that. Not here, not now and never again! --Michael Sleeman 19:57, 21 April 2009 (BST) proud member of the Communist Party of Malton
    grandstanding on the internet makes you look like a raging jew hth --Cyberbob 00:19, 22 April 2009 (BST)
    You are aware that Communist regimes are similarly anti-democratic and that Stalin's tyranny was responsible for a greater number of deaths than that of the Nazis, yes? --Papa Moloch 02:32, 22 April 2009 (BST)
  19. Keep However offensive this may be (and I am not convinced wholly that it is) I would not be comfortable with restricting free speech--C Whitty 21:54, 21 May 2009 (BST)
    Vote's over, mate. --Pestolence(talk) 22:37, 21 May 2009 (BST)
  • Speedily Deleted as per author request. -- Cheese 22:19, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Conner Martel

  1. Scheduled - User redirect in the mainspace. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:35, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Deleted - you can use {{Delete}} or {{speedydelete}} to break redirects. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:37, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Bale Mallrats

Moved from A/SD

  1. Delete - Contentless. Not going to be very hard to recreate, it's a single word. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:13, 7 April 2009 (BST)
  2. Keep - It's six days old for fuck's sake! -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:56, 7 April 2009 (BST)
  3. Delete - As Gnome. -- Cheese 19:06, 7 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Keep - FFS, less than a week old. There are tons of shitty pages that have been lurking ignored for months. Give him some time. --– Nubis NWO 03:36, 8 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Keep - As nubis... for now. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:56, 8 April 2009 (BST)
    It's been long enough. And as Boxy. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:15, 21 April 2009 (BST)
  6. Keep - Yeah its annoying but it wont hurt anyone if we give them a chance at it. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:04, 8 April 2009 (BST)
    Delete - As boxy. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:13, 13 April 2009 (BST)
  7. Keep for now. --Janus talk 19:38, 8 April 2009 (BST)
  8. Delete - given his last three edits were wiping a Mall page, an idiotic edit to it's danger report template, and this page creation where the only content is "Balls". I wouldn't credit him with even being a member of this group -- boxy talk • teh rulz 01:43 13 April 2009 (BST)
  9. Delete - As the Cube.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:15, 13 April 2009 (BST)
  10. Keep - It's a week old, SHEEEEEEEEEESH! If it's still crud in a month, then it's S/D material. --WanYao 21:25, 13 April 2009 (BST)
    Correction --> Its now 3 weeks old and hasn't been touched. -- Cheese 15:13, 19 April 2009 (BST)
    Correction --> It's been 2 weeks since this vote was started, at 4 to 5, this page is being deleted. Cycle this. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 09:27, 21 April 2009 (BST)
    Make that 4-6, as I forgot to state that my vote was a delete (not that it matters.) Linkthewindow  Talk  09:31, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Deleted. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:31, 21 April 2009 (BST)

A clockwork orange

Crit 3, also I don't think "User" can/should make Group A, then ditch it and make Group B, a totally different group, then wipe all content from Group A's page and make it a redirect to Group B. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:33, 3 April 2009 (BST)

Why not? :/ --Janus talk 13:16, 3 April 2009 (BST)
  1. Keep - Group A has ownership rights to their pages. They are entitled to put whatever they want on their page, including a redirect to other groups. For instance, I could make Walk The Earth into a pure redirect to Mall Tour 2009 and there's nothing that anyone could do because I have the right to place whatever I like on Walk The Earth pages. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 13:28, 3 April 2009 (BST)
    Regardless of your argument, it is still a Crit 3. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:39, 3 April 2009 (BST)
    Throw a tantrum about crit 3 as much as you want, it'd take me two minutes to add links from my own userpages to invalidate it. The argument that is invalid is yours, a keep vote has been registered, this must now go to the regular deletions queue for two weeks. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 11:39, 5 April 2009 (BST)
    I don't care either way, but if I did want this link deleted on sight, getting you to try and 'invalidate' the crit through those means would be the perfect way to have it deleted on the spot, funnily enough. See the user redirect battle 6 months ago, surely you remember, martyr? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:43, 5 April 2009 (BST)
    Different case, this not a user redirect, but a group redirect. I trust I do not have to explain the differences and the implications? -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 13:09, 5 April 2009 (BST)
    No no, you've already got me. Feel free to send this to deletions. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:26, 5 April 2009 (BST)
    Actually you can not, that's an example of crossing the bounds of page sovereignty. The groups need to be connected, they aren't so you'd be intentionally making the wiki a worse resource for the sake of advertisement/redirect spam which, if you were to challenge the revert on the grounds you present here, is vandalism as a bad faith edit. You really should take some time to figure out the real rules, or maybe ask someone in the know like you used to instead of claiming stuff that's patently untrue.--Karekmaps?! 15:07, 18 April 2009 (BST)
  2. Keep -- But only by the technicality that the redirect seems to be in use. In reality, somebody needs to get ahold of the author of The Streltsy and get him/her to clean up or update this stuff. None of this stuff has been touched since last September. Asheets 21:49, 6 April 2009 (BST)
  3. Delete Underused, under construction, needs to be under 6 feet. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 01:42, 7 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Delete - Crit 3, one useless link, been accessed 180 times and I can only imagine that 10 of those were when the page was a redirect. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:54, 7 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Speedy Delete - Crit 3. It's used once and looks like this [[A clockwork orange|The Streltsy]] which is where the redirect points. Just fix that and be done with it. Why is this even on deletions to begin with? -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 13:23, 7 April 2009 (BST)
    It was on A/SD, but it got two keep votes, so I moved it to A/D. :) --Janus talk 14:28, 7 April 2009 (BST)
    It was easier to take it here and have the community delete it rather than argue with Iscariot over the rules. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:54, 15 April 2009 (BST)
  6. Delete --Midianian¦T¦DS¦SP¦ 14:29, 7 April 2009 (BST)
  7. Delete - pretty much as DDR. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:38, 8 April 2009 (BST)
  8. Delete - As Conndraka. --Janus talk 19:42, 8 April 2009 (BST)
  9. Speedy Ba-leet - Crit 3. Like it should have been last week. -- Cheese 18:40, 12 April 2009 (BST)
  10. Delete - Not serving any purpose. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 05:23, 13 April 2009 (BST)
  11. Delete a redirect to a totally unrelated page. --WanYao 21:26, 13 April 2009 (BST)
  • Gorn -- Cheese 14:59, 18 April 2009 (BST)

Lerwill Heights Barricade Plan

Has been recreated at Template:Lerwill Heights Barricade Plan to maintain cohesion. Since the entire page is a template. --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 07:30, 31 March 2009 (BST)

  1. Speedy - that's a duplicate page. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:31, 31 March 2009 (BST)
  2. Keep - Lerwill Heights Barricade Plan is linked to on the Category:Barricade plans map, and conforms to all other barricade plan pages. I've changed the page to include the template, so now all the editing of the plan is done via the template, updating all inclusions. If we delete the barricade plan pages in these instances, a lot some of the barricade plan templates become unused (because they're only included on barricade plan pages). There has long been talk of removing barricade plans from suburb pages (because they are purely survivor POV), which would ensure that a lot would become unused -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:34 31 March 2009 (BST)
  3. Delete - There's no such thing. Lerwill Heights is inanimate and non-conscious, it has no plans, for barricading or otherwise. This is a survivor POV piece of crap that needs moving into the appropriate group or user space. No space has been suggested so this is just junk in a community space. -- To know the face of God is to know madness....Praise knowledge! Mischief! Mayhem! The Rogues Gallery!. <== DDR Approved Editor 01:49, 7 April 2009 (BST)
  4. Keep As Boxy. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 23:11, 8 April 2009 (BST)
  5. Keep As Boxy for now. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:28, 10 April 2009 (BST)
  6. keep --WanYao 21:27, 13 April 2009 (BST)
  • Keeped -- Cheese 14:59, 18 April 2009 (BST)
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