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Category:Finis_Valorum_Suicide_Spots

Used solely for griefing purposes.--Finis Valorum 20:58, 30 September 2007 (BST)

  1. Delete Screw it. It was just meant to be a bit of fun. --Bob Fortune RR 10:41, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  2. Delete Pathetic.--Jorm 21:12, 30 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Delete - griefing --~~~~ [talk] 21:23, 30 September 2007 (BST)
    It was meant as a bit of fun - Finis is widely known to jump out of windows in-game rather than face people trying to kill him. I had no intentions other than that. Also, it did have content, but Finis keeps removing pages from the category. --Bob Fortune RR 21:26, 30 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Keep- Just because I can.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  21:35, 30 September 2007 (BST) Okay, Bob Fortune changed his vote. Speedy Delete.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  11:31, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  5. Keep - Maybe I'm not one to talk, since I've been known to misuse the verb "grief" myself, but I think it's pretty much impossible to grief a window-ledger. The page really could be informative and humorous, if its content was allowed to remain. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 23:49, 30 September 2007 (BST) Yeah, OK, changed my mind. Speedy Delete - Crit 4 -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 05:26, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  6. Delete- You don't like him, we get it, now stop harassing him.--Karekmaps?! 00:38, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  7. Speedy Delete, serves no purpose but griefing. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 01:59, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  8. Delete Stop making random categories - Vantar 02:35, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  9. Speedy Delete - Crit 4. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 03:32, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  10. Delete We dont need this kind of shit on our wiki --The Grimch U! E! 04:53, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  11. Speedy Delete - Informative? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC☺T☺+1 04:56, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  12. Delete - I see no reason for this page to exist.--Vow 05:27, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  13. SpeedyDelete - crit 4, empty category, and only has the potential to spam location pages with a crap category link -- boxy • talk • 10:33 1 October 2007 (BST)

Speedydeleted - Crit 4 -- boxy • talk • 12:44 1 October 2007 (BST)

International Copyright

Copyrights are already explained under Copyright and Category:Copyrighted Images. This is an uneeded page. --Rogue 06:44, 25 September 2007 (BST)

erm... Category:Copyrighted Images simple inserts the text in Copyright as a template call. It's exactly the same text. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 14:25, 25 September 2007 (BST)
I know, I'm stating that we have a basic page and a template page. We don't really need anymore. Though the info on International Copyright is very informative it's just not needed. --Rogue 18:16, 25 September 2007 (BST)
  1. Keep - you people are starting to get retarded on this. People question why, yet when someone shows them why, you want to get rid of it. Don't you think it might be a lil bit relevant due to the copyright discussions that is going on? oh... and diskspace = cheap--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 18:20, 25 September 2007 (BST)
    Keep - because Copyright looks like being only about US law; besides, diskspace = cheap --~~~~ [talk] 18:21, 25 September 2007 (BST) Vote changed --~~~~ [talk] 22:03, 26 September 2007 (BST)
    We need to see if we can get it as the copyright policy, as of now it seems to be a talk reply copied onto another page. --Rogue 21:06, 25 September 2007 (BST)
    Keep - It's usefull to know--Seventythree 18:24, 25 September 2007 (BST) Vote changed
  2. Merge - Explaination below.--SeventythreeTalk 10:13, 1 October 2007 (BST)
  3. Delete\Merge Rework it then make it the copyright page. Like I said, there's some good info there. --Rogue 21:06, 25 September 2007 (BST)
    RE That could work, actualy.--Seventythree 21:09, 25 September 2007 (BST)
    Yes agreed. but as of now it's a talk response that's pretending to be a policy page. --Rogue 21:15, 25 September 2007 (BST)
    Does it? I thought it helped explain what international copyright is. UDWiki:Copyrights policy is the copyright policy. Of course, how people cannot understand "The Urban Dead Wiki prohibits the usage of copyrighted material in anyway way shape or form without the express consent of the original owner of such material. This includes the usage of logos and other forms of intellectual property." I'll never know. --Akule School's in session. 22:56, 26 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Keep Given the number of times copyright questions come up it's nice to be able to just link someone to a page that explains it. Also how is it pretending to be a policy,I don't see anything there that could be read as a such - Vantar 21:26, 25 September 2007 (BST)
  5. Delete/Move - Off topic for the main namespace. Move it to wine country. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 21:49, 25 September 2007 (BST)
  6. Delete - It most definitely does not belong on the main namespace, it's not an issue of the wiki, it has nothing to do with the game, and it's only purpose is to spread certain users views about how copyrights work. When this site becomes about copyrights or about anything in general then maybe this would make sense but as of current this has nothing at all to do with the game.--Karekmaps?! 21:53, 25 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Keep diskspace = cheap--'BPTmz 04:35, 26 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Move/Merge - Hm, Karek's vote made me change my mind. This should be taken to something like UDWiki:Copyright Project, where it would be merged with Copyright into a clear policy --~~~~ [talk] 22:03, 26 September 2007 (BST)
    UDWiki:Copyright Project sounds like a nice project for akule to start. It really sounds better and less idiot than his Copyright Gestapo, and also make it sound like he really is into this to make the wiki better, not ruining it. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 23:13, 26 September 2007 (BST)
    I'd be happy to do it. The reason why I made the Copyright Gestapo was as a joke for those people who were calling me the "copyright nazi". I'd like to see more images like your remade mall images, so that we can have images that are made specifically for the wiki and Urban Dead in general. I really think that people would take more pride in the wiki and in the Urban Dead storyline if we could get community artists like Big J and Orie Shizuoka to remake the community images and make the place have a unique personal touch. Look at Nexus's wiki. Doesn't their community and game images (such as character archetypes) make the wiki look professional? Why should we settle for making this place like myspace? It could be so much more and so much better, if we'd give it a chance. --Akule School's in session. 23:33, 26 September 2007 (BST)
    This isn't your personal Wiki Akule. It's the choice of the people on how they want the Wiki to be and your methods are not winning any hearts and minds. --Rogue 04:51, 29 September 2007 (BST)
    Not a vote but a comment about a problem that will need to be overcome: the problem with achieving the same result on UDWiki that NWWiki has with regards to consistency of images is that there is no central design director on UDWiki (on NWWiki I have final say and fiat). So you'll want to create a group who drives this stuff (and, given the awesome policy-central mindset, write a policy to give them power to make changes to design as needed). I'd be willing to help out on something like that though my "design time" is limited.--Jorm 00:55, 27 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Move - Where ? I dont know. But this doesnt belong in the main namespace, as does not Copyright. But it clearly should not be deleted. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 22:07, 26 September 2007 (BST)
  10. Keep - It's come up time and time again, and helps people clear up misconceptions about international copyright law. --Akule School's in session. 22:56, 26 September 2007 (BST)
  11. Move - Garland has a good idea there. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 19:56, 27 September 2007 (BST)
  12. Move - Because Akule needs to get laid or something.--User:Axe27/Sig 05:12, 28 September 2007 (BST)
    Wow, that retarded catchphrase....again. For the life of me I can't figure out why you got so many Against votes in your promotion bid.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 19:48, 28 September 2007 (BST)
    It's OK for you to say it, but it's not OK for Axe to say it ? Yeah, right. Go troll somewhere else anime. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 20:17, 28 September 2007 (BST)
    Oh thats right, I forgot, I'm on Bizaroworld where I'm the troll. Plum slipped my mind. Thank you for pointing out the error of my edit Hagnat, I retract my trollish statement.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 20:33, 28 September 2007 (BST)
    When during the past several months because akule need to get laid... or something was the reason on EVERY VOTE you have made in administration pages (recently changed by diskspace == cheap)... yeah, that makes you a troll for harassing Axe for doing the same as you have done. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 22:39, 28 September 2007 (BST)
    Really, EVERY VOTE in the last few months? Wow, CNR Much? No, I like to think I put more thought into my votes, and actually give a reason rather than spouting off a few catchphrases. Yes, I did put those in my votes once or twice, but I guess irony fails the language barrier. I love how when some of us speak our minds, its "OMG TROLL", but when the cool wiki people do it, it's freedom of speech. But if you would like to continue this discussion, please refer to my talk page.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 23:07, 28 September 2007 (BST)
    So, What was the whole purpose of this Anime? Was it to bitch and whine at me? You know as well as I do that I will not change my vote, and act like an asshat only countines to further my point. But, then again, stirring up drama is your thing, isn't it? --User:Axe27/Sig 01:29, 29 September 2007 (BST)

Kept - Move/merge isn't really a valid vote, and given that there is no clear consensus to do it, and there are more keep than delete, it gets kept, and stays where it is. Perhaps discuss it on the pages talk page, and then put in a request on A/MR -- boxy • talk • 12:15 14 October 2007 (BST)

User:Saromu/DEM_Roster

Deletion workaround of the recently deleted DEM Roster. --Akule School's in session. 01:52, 12 September 2007 (BST)

  1. Keep - But add Category:liek mudkipz --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 23:29, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete - Overwhelming support was made to delete these pages, even after it was realized that the copyright side of it wasn't in play. It's stupid to have to go through this, but rules are rules. --Akule School's in session. 23:33, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Keep - Cause Akule should be banned.--Karekmaps?! 23:44, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Keep - Uh...Because I think the page is pretty.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:16, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  5. keep these pages were not stolen they were taken from an open source page. That page may or may not have stolen em but i bet that the creator of the page they were taken from will give his blessing! That page has since been deleted but this is not copyright abuse as no enforcable (or even un-enforcable) copyright claim was ever made. In short the info should never have been deleted in the first place!!! --Honestmistake 00:20, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  6. Keep - It's a private userpage, not a public one. You cannot have private pages deleted unless they break a rule. No rules were broken. Akule, use your time more wisely. Develope a cure for AIDS or find Jimmy Hoffa. Prove that OJ Simpson really was innocent. Do something. But for the love of god, stop troll-lawyering. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 05:23, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Keep This is just a personal attack. Thank god you did this ealier Akule. I doubt the mods would heasitate to smash you into oblivion. --User:Axe27/Sig 05:27, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - it's a personal page of different user, not a deletion workaround --~~~~ [Talk] 12:00, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep - A treasure trove of valuable information. No reason why it should be withheld from the UD-playing public. --Goolina Gore Corps 19:28, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  10. Keep - I fail to see what's wrong with this.--Seventythree 19:31, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  11. Keep - Page existed before the originals deletion, thus it cannot be a workaround. Also, it is a users personal page. (Specific to this particular one: This page existed before the deletion request for the original was even filed.) --The Grimch U! 19:44, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  12. Keep - User subpage. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 20:16, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  13. Delete - For Sonny!!!--Kristi of the Dead 05:14, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  14. Keep - Ban censorship! --The Hierophant 20:23, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  15. Delete - I have to vote delete on this, as it will help set the precedent that user pages aren't sacrosanct, and who am I to stand in the way of a precedent that will end up being used against the people who want it?--Jorm 20:46, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  16. Keep - I don't see this as a deletion workaround, since it doesn't seem like it was meant to take the place of the original. Meh, let 'em keep their silly list of outdated information. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 15:58, 16 September 2007 (BST)
  17. Lawl --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 06:18, 17 September 2007 (BST)
  18. Keep - Unh, why not? - If Jedaz = 14:47, 17 September 2007 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1
  19. Keep - not subject to deletion page. Needless rule lawyering.--_ 21:39, 18 September 2007 (BST)
  20. Keep NEDM --Rogue 03:52, 19 September 2007 (BST)

Kept --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 19:56, 27 September 2007 (BST)

User:Cyberbob240/DEM_Roster

Deletion workaround of the recently deleted DEM Roster. --Akule School's in session. 01:52, 12 September 2007 (BST)

  1. Delete - I sold a vote to Satan after reading what Jorm said. Keep - But add Category:liek mudkipz --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 23:29, 12 September 2007 (BST) --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 23:49, 19 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete - Overwhelming support was made to delete these pages, even after it was realized that the copyright side of it wasn't in play. It's stupid to have to go through this, but rules are rules. --Akule School's in session. 23:34, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Keep - Cause Akule should be banned.--Karekmaps?! 23:44, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Keep - Uh...Because I think the page is pretty.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:16, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  5. keep these pages were not stolen they were taken from an open source page. That page may or may not have stolen em but i bet that the creator of the page they were taken from will give his blessing! That page has since been deleted but this is not copyright abuse as no enforcable (or even un-enforcable) copyright claim was ever made. In short the info should never have been deleted in the first place!!! --Honestmistake 00:20, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  6. Keep - Because Akule needs to be a real lawyer. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 05:25, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Keep - Because Akule needs to get laid or something. --User:Axe27/Sig 05:28, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - it's a personal page of different user, not a deletion workaround --~~~~ [Talk] 12:00, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep - Same reasons I gave for Saromu. --Goolina Gore Corps 19:28, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  10. Delete - Vote changed. Because setting stupid precidents is cool. --The Grimch U! 19:44, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  11. Keep - User subpage. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 20:16, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  12. Keep - Because someone should go back to his bridge.--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 05:37, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  13. Keep - FTW! --The Hierophant 20:24, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  14. Delete - I have to vote delete on this, as it will help set the precedent that user pages aren't sacrosanct, and who am I to stand in the way of a precedent that will end up being used against the people who want it?--Jorm 20:47, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  15. Keep - I don't see this as a deletion workaround, since it doesn't seem like it was meant to take the place of the original. Meh, let 'em keep their silly list of outdated information. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 15:59, 16 September 2007 (BST)
  16. Lawl --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 06:18, 17 September 2007 (BST)
  17. Delete - Because my bias is showing =P - If Jedaz = 14:46, 17 September 2007 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1
  18. Keep - not subject to deletion page. Needless rule lawyering.--_ 21:39, 18 September 2007 (BST)
  19. Keep Non-issue --Rogue 03:50, 19 September 2007 (BST)

Kept --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 19:56, 27 September 2007 (BST)

Leighton_Kru/Cut_You

Deletion workaround of the recently deleted DEM Roster. --Akule School's in session. 01:52, 12 September 2007 (BST)

  1. Keep all - a significant number of votes were cast on the mistaken assumption that the copyright holder wanted it deleted (he didn't care), or that it was a misplaced article (the votes would have been different if it was in someones user or group space). I figure the voting may be very different if held on these pages... therefore I'm not speedydeleteing these... take it to A/D if you want The preceding signed comment was added by boxy (talk #contribs) at 11:28 12 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Keep - But add Category:liek mudkipz Spam - Feel free to log them to A/D individually. And stop your incessant attempts to misuse administration services. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 12:23, 12 September 2007 (BST) --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 23:29, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete - Overwhelming support was made to delete these pages, even after it was realized that the copyright side of it wasn't in play. It's stupid to have to go through this, but rules are rules. --Akule School's in session. 23:17, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Delete - --Karekmaps?! 23:44, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  5. Keep - Uh...Because I think the page is pretty.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 00:16, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  6. keep these pages were not stolen they were taken from an open source page. That page may or may not have stolen em but i bet that the creator of the page they were taken from will give his blessing! That page has since been deleted but this is not copyright abuse as no enforcable (or even un-enforcable) copyright claim was ever made. In short the info should never have been deleted in the first place!!! --Honestmistake 00:21, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Keep - I think I hear an ambulance that needs to be chased... --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 05:26, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - Lemme hear it. Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.--User:Axe27/Sig 05:29, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep - Once more, with feeling. --Goolina Gore Corps 19:28, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  10. Keep - Funneh :P --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 20:16, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  11. Keep - Wiki-censorship is E-masturbation. --The Hierophant 20:25, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  12. Delete - I have to vote delete on this, as it will help set the precedent that user pages aren't sacrosanct, and who am I to stand in the way of a precedent that will end up being used against the people who want it?--Jorm 20:48, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  13. Keep - I don't see this as a deletion workaround, since it doesn't seem like it was meant to take the place of the original. Meh, let 'em keep their silly list of outdated information. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 16:00, 16 September 2007 (BST)
  14. Lawl --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 06:19, 17 September 2007 (BST)
  15. Keep - not subject to deletion page. Needless rule lawyering.--_ 21:39, 18 September 2007 (BST)
  16. Delete - changed vote. Terrible precidents are funny. --The Grimch U! E! 10:11, 19 September 2007 (BST)
  17. Delete - terrible precident? ok --~~~~ [talk] 07:29, 20 September 2007 (BST)

Kept --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 19:56, 27 September 2007 (BST)

Petition Stop Real Gamer

Kevan obviously doesn't give a fuck, and neither does the smart people of the wiki. This is worthless since there is a feature to ignore people in game and radios. Just plain dumb.

  1. Delete --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 01:54, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Delete - Not to mention the fact that if I read it correctly, they're using a spam station anyway. Plus it's poorly made. ;).-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 01:58, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Keep - disk space = cheep! --Akule School's in session. 02:27, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    That's your reason? No one gives a shit about the space it takes up. We're talking about it being worthless because there is already something in game to stop him. The creator of the page is just too damn stupid to realize it. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 02:30, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    We should give it the wiki rant category. Then it should be kosher, right? --Akule School's in session. 02:40, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    You have to put it in a good format first. Then I'll be cool with it.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 17:10, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    So give them a chance to put it in a good format instead of deleting it. I don't see why an active page should be deleted while there are tons of dead groups with barely anything on the page that are being kept. But, hey, those rules only apply when it doesn't directly concern him. --Akule School's in session. 23:17, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    WTF are you talking about, holmes? I have nothing to do with this page up for deletion - Sonny put it up, not me. In fact, you'll notice I am abstaining. I've already dealt with RealGamer in my game; I've no desire to get involved in another deal with him.--Jorm 19:17, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Keep - And Jorm banned him from Nexuswar. I don't see how this is hopeless. --User:Axe27/Sig 05:10, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  5. Delete - Duplicating in game spam on the wiki is spam. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 05:23, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  6. Keep As Sonny --THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 05:24, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    Wtf? Sonny voted Delete, not Keep. 'arm. 16:22, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    Yes, but he didnt's give a reason... so my reason is the same as his... none--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 19:09, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    Hmm, okay. But I'd usually take the preamble about why the page is up for deletion as their reason. Just like 'Author Vote' on suggestions. 'arm. 20:05, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Delete - Nuthin but garbage --The Grimch U! 05:31, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - A somewhat legitimate petition. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 18:22, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep - actually ignore might not always work. How can you ignore an account that it just fresh created? --~~~~ [Talk] 18:47, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  10. Delete --Karloth Vois RR 20:55, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  11. Keep That's how I roll Nalikill 21:00, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  12. Delete - Begone!--Karekmaps?! 03:52, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  13. Kepp - real gamer hasn't changed one bit. The man 16:42, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  14. Keep - Because I said so. It'll make no difference and Kevan won't care, but if people want to piss down their own legs it's not for me to tell them not to. --The Hierophant 20:27, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  15. Keep--  Savant  Chit-Chat  13:17, 16 September 2007 (BST)
  16. Delete Not the way to tackle people like this.--Seventythree 20:23, 16 September 2007 (BST)
  17. Delete of no real use other than encouraging the spammer - Vantar 16:47, 18 September 2007 (BST)
  18. Delete - Worthless.--_ 21:39, 18 September 2007 (BST)
  19. Keep Viligantism for the win. --Rogue 03:44, 19 September 2007 (BST)
  20. Keep - Might as well let those people signing the thing speak their minds. Deleting the page seems more akin to shouting them down than any sort of logical argument against them. And who knows, something constructive (the ignore function) came out of the petition to Ban In-Game Rape and that wasn't any more feasible than this is. --Toejam 04:01, 19 September 2007 (BST)
    They can ignore already but they don't because they're retarded. And the ingame rape thing was the biggest batch of faggotry to ever come out of the game. Nothing but whiney babies. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 04:02, 19 September 2007 (BST)

Kept --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 19:56, 27 September 2007 (BST)

Road_trip

The guy who made this has requested it for deletion. Looking through the history, he's the only one to have created or edited the page.--SeventythreeTalk 21:32, 26 September 2007 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete The criteria with the author delete thingy.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  22:26, 26 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete Crits 1, 2, and 7.--Karekmaps?! 22:31, 26 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete Should I have put this up for Speedy delete then?--SeventythreeTalk 22:32, 26 September 2007 (BST)
    Signs point to yes.--Karekmaps?! 22:33, 26 September 2007 (BST)
    Ok Thought only mods could do that for some reason! You learn something new every day.--SeventythreeTalk 22:36, 26 September 2007 (BST)

Speedily deleted after 3 votes. --Daranz.t.mod janitor.W(M)^∞. 22:45, 26 September 2007 (BST)

M.O.R.T.A.L.

Missed crit 12 move from August 26th.

  1. Speedy Delete --Tumu 11:02, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Keep - long enough maintained and has some history. --~~~~ [Talk] 12:43, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Keep - Criterion 12 sucks --The Grimch U! 13:46, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Delete --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 16:19, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  5. Speedy Delete - Crit 12. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 22:41, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  6. Speedy Delete - Ditto. Nalikill 22:49, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Keep - As Grim and Duke --Ryiis 22:51, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - Criteria 12 == teh zux.--Jorm 01:20, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep - It was actually a group ingame.--Karekmaps?! 04:20, 12 September 2007 (BST)

Kept --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 16:14, 26 September 2007 (BST)

Salt The Metagame Policy

Page serves no purpose save to call for griefing, disruption, and trolling of zombie groups. Page was created by an individual who has been known to attempt to impersonate individuals before (and has recieved a warning for it); individual has at least once attempted to disrupt IRC for at least one group.

I don't think that the official wiki is the place for this type of drivel.

  1. Delete ---Jorm 01:12, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Delete --- Shadow of the Undead 01:32, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Delete --- Bob Fortune RR 01:41, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Delete --- Barbecue Barbecue 01:44, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  5. Delete --- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 01:45, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  6. Delete ---Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 01:48, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Delete --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 01:52, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - It's stupid, goes against the entire spirit of this game, the guy who wrote it is a jackass who should be griefed by everybody, harmans, zmobies and pkes, but, hey... free speech ? besides, even LUE was practicing misinformation... and if more people show up to be as low as this guy to join this policy, then there is indeed something wrong in the game... --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 02:21, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    • Here's the thing, though. That page is advocating DDOS attacks on the personal property of other people. This bandwidth is paid for out of pocket, so attacking it is, in effect, costing people money (in this case, me). This is where Akule's wonderful hypocrisy comes in - he's all for fighting the "good fight" to protect the property of faceless corporations who aren't going to be harmed in the slightest, but when it comes to real property paid for by real people who will really be affected by something like this, he changes tact simply because he doesn't like me (or has a crush on me; I'm not sure which).--Jorm 05:35, 13 September 2007 (BST)
      • Hum, i agree with that. I had to move a former irc channel i used to admin several times due server instability because of DOS attacks, and that totally ruin any fun you might have in the place. One thing is to spread misinformation, the other is to make it impossible for any kind information to be spread. I would have changed my vote to Delete if you hadnt removed the text asking people to DDOS your irc server. If this article remains without this lines, i'll have nothing against it again. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 19:29, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep - disk space = cheep! --Akule School's in session. 02:26, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  10. Delete - Barbecue makes sense. Also encourages shitting on the community.--Karekmaps?! 04:17, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  11. Keep - maybe protect?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 04:45, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  12. Delete - Silly harmanz. --User:Axe27/Sig 05:09, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  13. Delete - As Max. -- Atticus Rex mfu pif Δ 06:32, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    Keep- Misinformation is (1.a widely used tactic and (2.not fundamentally different from other policies such as Salt the Land Byteme42 14:52, 12 September 2007 (BST) Changed his vote. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 15:48, 19 September 2007 (BST)
  14. Keep - We shouldn't censor things just because we don't agree with them. 'arm. 16:20, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  15. Keep - Free speech. --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 18:22, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  16. Keep - When the ball is in the other court eh? --Ryiis 18:36, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    • I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Has there been a widespread call for disrupting survivor forums and irc channels? If so, and it is within my power to correct it, let me know and I'll roll some heads.--Jorm 18:49, 12 September 2007 (BST)
      • Barhah Betty FTW?! I'm sure I'll get some comment now about "griefing ingame is not the same as griefing metagame", etc, etc, ad nauseam. Listen, I don't agree with what is on the page, and I particularly don't like one portion of the page regarding the IRC channels - it's wrong, but it's a free wiki. --Ryiis 20:34, 12 September 2007 (BST)
        • I have no idea what you're talking about. What is "Barhah Betty"? Seriously, show me where there is a call for zombies to disrupt survivor irc channels and forums - especially one that is on the official wiki.--Jorm 20:54, 12 September 2007 (BST)
          • I don't have to prove anything to you - the onus isn't on me to police the "internets!". In game or out of game - it is still disruption no matter how you spin it. Oh, and here is the link if you are wondering about Barhah Betty --Ryiis 21:09, 12 September 2007 (BST)
            • I'm not asking you to prove anything; I'm asking you what the hell you're talking about. If there is some dishonorable crap happening and it's coming from my crew, I'll look into it and deal with it. But I can't do that unless you explain what you mean.--Jorm 21:13, 12 September 2007 (BST)
            • Wait. You're comparing "people reading the radio spam and lying over the public radios" to "spamming and trolling forums and applying DDOS techniques to IRC?" Wow.--Jorm 21:15, 12 September 2007 (BST)
              • It's the same fucking thing Jorm and you know it! At least on the forums you can control the misinformation that comes across - and if you can't you have fucking retarded moderators. I already stated that I don't agree with the tactics in the article, and particularly ones relating to IRC. I never specifically pointed out you or your crew for anything related to this. I simply made the comment that underhanded tactics are used on both sides of the fence ***"griefing, disruption..." it's the same thing LUE does with Barhah Betty. --Ryiis 21:20, 12 September 2007 (BST)
                • Wow. Just. . . . wow.--Jorm 21:42, 12 September 2007 (BST)
                • Facepalm maneuvre, engage!--Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 22:00, 12 September 2007 (BST)
                • As Jorm. And regarding the "free speech" argument, I'd simply like to say that deciding what we as a community want on our wiki as a guide to the game doesn't prevent a given user from posting elsewhere on teh internets whatever he or she likes. The wiki, by its very nature as a wiki, is a collaborative community project... which means we all have an interest in, and in a sense are all represented by, what it says or does not say. And per my vote, I'd rather this didn't represent us. --Barbecue Barbecue 02:25, 13 September 2007 (BST)
                • ITT we call Ryiis a moron. --Sonny Corleone RRF DORIS CRF pr0n 05:19, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  17. Keep - hagnat summed it up --~~~~ [Talk] 18:45, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  18. Keep- Metagaming is a tactic. Plotting to disrupt it is a tactic. Don't restrict tactics. Nalikill 21:01, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  19. keep Why is harman players using the metagame to spy on zeds and plan accordingly any different from zeds using the metagame to communicate? The game is written to hamper zeds with a lack of communication, the metagame organization side steps that to the major grief of harmanz. Metagaming is a dubious tactic but it makes the game more fun, harman players spying on it to claw back some of their intended advantage is no worse and is going to happen regardless! --Honestmistake 21:48, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  20. Delete --Thari TжFedCom is BFI! 22:00, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  21. Keep What Hagnat said, except that I'd like to emphasize that LUE does not practice this kind disruption... yet. We limit ourselves to taunting Trenchcoaters on the radio and broadcasting false attack plans only when the real plans have been released. However, if you want LUE to invade your forums, along with angry zombies from all other groups, then go right ahead. Anyone who hasn't been a LUE member since the sign-ups won't be able to gain access to our methods of communication anyway, but we'll gladly assist other zombie groups in exacting their revenge. Of course, we won't do this to ALL survivor groups, just the groups that are stupid enough to adopt the policy. - Brona 00:18, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  22. Delete In-game disruption/misinformation is one thing, hacking boards and IRC channels is quite different. Optimal D 03:41, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  23. Delete We shouldn't be encouraging this sort of behaviour surely? bisfan 02:50, 13 September 2007 (GMT)
  24. Delete "Bring down a channel - Some groups use IRC channels as their primary coordination mechanism during battles. If you have technical skills, try to get ops on one of these and kickban everyone during pitched battle. Other IRC attack methods are also useful." Allowing advice like this to remain on the wiki is, to me, akin to condoning a DoS attack on a website. I am not a lawyer, and I am not that familiar with Internet law, but someone might want to look into it. If this page is promoting illegal actions they need to be removed. Overall, though, I don't feel this page adds anything positive to the wiki.--Beauxdeigh 05:07, 13 September 2007 (BST)
    • If this part caused legal problems, it could be removed--but that's not a reason to delete the whole policy Byteme42 14:47, 13 September 2007 (BST)
      • Agreed. That would certianly be a valid solution. Perhaps you could take that step now by deleting that advice, and delete references to other people's property as targets, from your policy. That would be a positive step and remove any legal questions from the debate.
        I still, though, feel that this policy shouldn't be promoted by the wiki community, if even only to jeer at. It appears to be more about 'winning' than 'having fun' and tries to dehumanize the opposing side by qualifying those players as targets overall, instead of just inside the game. The Metagame offers all players the opportunity to build community. Calling for a disruption of that has nothing to do with fun, and is petty. --Beauxdeigh 19:22, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  25. Delete Hey, those irc servers are owned and paid for by somebody. How about I pass out the author's address and suggest everyone vandalize his car? Same thing. -- Grogh 05:05, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  26. Delete --Kashara 05:10, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  27. Delete --Kibbs 09:00, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  28. Delete – Advocates illegal activities (DoS), and asshattish besides. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 19:24, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  29. Delete --TouchingVirus 19:35, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  30. Delete --Lucero Talk U! 02:01, 14 September 2007 (BST)
  31. Delete Just get rid of this shit, it contributes nothing to the wiki and encourages the "WIN TEH GAME" tards. Srekto 17:25, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  32. Delete - I hate censorship, but this encourages fucktards to grief people outside of the game, especially the poor bastards who run fora and IRC channels as free services to the community. --The Hierophant 20:34, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  33. Delete Okay, this is just getting stupid. Moved policy to my userpage, you can delete it now. Happy? Byteme42 20:46, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  34. Delete - Once advocated illegal activity (DOS attacks). "History" viewing will continue to show this advocacy, so the well is poisoned. Continues to advocate uncivil conduct outside the game context. Its basically a call for drama, so get the fuck rid of it. SIM Core Map.png Swiers 15:24, 16 September 2007 (BST)
    I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think it's possible for sysops to delete edits from a page's history, so the DOS thing wouldn't have to be there forever. --Toejam 19:51, 17 September 2007 (BST)
  35. Delete - Not needed.--_ 21:39, 18 September 2007 (BST)
  36. Delete And once deleted it should not be allowed to exist on the wiki, it should be removed from Byteme's page as well. --Rogue 22:13, 19 September 2007 (BST)
    Feel free to go through another two weeks to do that. It'd be against wiki policy to delete that page as well without a vote, or at least putting it up for speedy deletion. And I'll report any sysop that tries to delete it without going through SD or Deletions for misconduct.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  22:23, 19 September 2007 (BST)
    Like the DEM Roster?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 22:19, 19 September 2007 (BST)

Deleted after being wiped by author and speedydeletion -- boxy • talk • 11:31 22 September 2007 (BST)

Copyrighted Content

Image:SuperKing.png - Violation of UDWiki:Copyrights policy that Kevan has clearly defined.

  1. Delete - Fox's terms and conditions clearly state that "All materials contained in this Site are protected by international trademark and copyright laws and must only be used for personal, non-commercial purposes. This means that you may only view or download material from this Site for your own use and you must keep all copyright and other proprietary notices attached to the downloaded material. The reproduction, duplication, distribution (including by way of email, facsimile or other electronic means), publication, modification, copying or transmission of material from this Site is strictly prohibited unless you have obtained the prior written consent of FOX or unless it is expressly permitted by this Site. The material covered by this prohibition includes, without limitation, any text, graphics, logos, photographs, audio or video material or stills from audiovisual material available on this Site. The use of materials from this Site on any other Web site or networked computer environment is similarly prohibited. Requests for permission to reproduce or distribute materials found on this Site can be made by contacting FOX in writing at terms@fox.com. You are also strictly prohibited from creating works or materials that derive from or are based on the materials contained in this Site including, without limitation, fonts, icons, link buttons, wallpaper, desktop themes, online postcards and greeting cards and unlicensed merchandise. This prohibition applies regardless of whether the derivative materials are sold, bartered or given away." Since Urban Dead is a commercial website, this image cannot be claimed for personal use, and since it has no citation information, was not requested to be used, and in violation of the UD wiki's UDWiki:Copyrights policy, it should be deleted or modified to a non-copyrighted image. --Akule School's in session. 22:11, 6 September 2007 (BST)
  2. Keep Not being used for commercial purposes. Nalikill 22:15, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    Incorrect. Kevan makes money off of the website through donations, advertisements, and products, which means that this site commercial website. If you bothered to read the UDWiki:Copyrights policy or look at the bottom of your edit window, you would note that quote: "You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource (see Project:Copyrights for details). DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!" Despite that, Fox says quote: "The reproduction, duplication, distribution (including by way of email, facsimile or other electronic means), publication, modification, copying or transmission of material from this Site is strictly prohibited unless you have obtained the prior written consent of FOX or unless it is expressly permitted by this Site. The material covered by this prohibition includes, without limitation, any text, graphics, logos, photographs, audio or video material or stills from audiovisual material available on this Site. The use of materials from this Site on any other Web site or networked computer environment is similarly prohibited." No one asked for permission, and Fox never gave it. Thus not only is it in violation of this site, but Fox's terms and conditions for this image. --Akule School's in session. 22:50, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    Fox can sit and spin.--Seventythree 22:54, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    What about Kevan? He has the same opinion. Should he do the same? --Akule School's in session. 22:57, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    He isn't poisoning minds and destroying soals. And If it's seriously going to get him into trouble, then it will be removed, fair enougth. He has to take that line, because otherwise he will get into trouble. I don't. So I won't. Plus, it's not often I get a chance to attack Fox, so i'm going to take it. Even If they will never read it, and don;t even know of the existence of this page. I tell you what, the day Fox actualy write a statement on this page asking for the removal of one of their images is the day I will vote to delete copywrited images.--Seventythree 23:05, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    Right. Kevan just says: "Don't post copyrighted images." He just made the game and stands the most to lose, because British copyright law is far stricter than American copyright law. Fox has a history of completely shutting down fan-based Simpsons sites. They say it plainly: You are also strictly prohibited from creating works or materials that derive from or are based on the materials contained in this Site including, without limitation, fonts, icons, link buttons, wallpaper, desktop themes, online postcards and greeting cards and unlicensed merchandise. --Akule School's in session. 23:20, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    How about we ask Kevan and all stop quibbling like little children? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:13, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    We have repeatedly done so. It's just that people don't like his answers. --Akule School's in session. 23:20, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    Sure then, delete away if it makes you feel better. Man, Fox suck. It's amazing that they have time to hunt down us naughty copywright breakers, what with all that pestilent lying evil they have to pump out over the airwaves.--Seventythree 23:32, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    I meant this particular one, but I suppose it'd come out with the same result and I doubt he'd take the time. Meh. Not my picture anyways.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:35, 6 September 2007 (BST) Yes fox sucks Mr "73personwhomakesconflictingeditshappenlots".
    Sorry!:-( My PC is a little slow so it takes me a while to stick anything up.--Seventythree 23:47, 6 September 2007 (BST)
  3. KeepIf Fox has a problem let them go through the required legal channels and request it's removal. Also get a life, I can't imagine surfing the wiki for possibly copywritten images is a rewarding way to live.--Karekmaps?! 22:17, 6 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Delete because Akule needs to get laid or something (yes, i'm taking it back, just like Randal took back porch monkey)--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 22:29, 6 September 2007 (BST)
  5. Keep - I'm a communist(pretty much). All property is theft, and Fox, oh, fox, spawn of satan, the corruptor, father of lies and spreader of all purveying evil, fox can jam their copyright stuff up their arses. That is, if the shiney haired suits that seem to run every aspect of the media nowadays have arses. I don't think they're entirely human. That is all.--Seventythree 22:30, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    Heh, if you're a communist, then you do realize, if you'd said what you just said in any communist country, they'd take you out and shoot you? Feel free to leave a message on my page- we can debate capitalism versus communism Nalikill 22:31, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    Hell yeah! (i'm not entirely communist for a reason I will explain later.) Hang on, Can I refer any nitpicking peoples back to this page in case someone says that I'm being very bad for posting stuff on your talk page? Cos I wouldn't like to get one of them warnings on my talk page. It'd realy clash with the colour scheme I've got planned!--Seventythree 22:36, 6 September 2007 (BST)
    Fine with me. If you're asking permission from the mods, then, PLEASE SAY YES, OH MIGHTY SYSOPS! :) Nalikill 22:37, 6 September 2007 (BST)
  6. Keep - And only because many of the pictures I use for my templates (ie this and this) I make aren't originally from me, but are just like this image Ghetto Cow used. Also...I agree with Niilkill. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:09, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  7. Keep - SPIDERMAN. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 05:01, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  8. Keep - Im pretty sure it counts as fair use, besides, whats next. you going to go after my Mr Burns image too? This stuff is all over the internet, and so long as it isnt used for commercial purposes, its fine. Go away little troll. --The Grimch U! 05:05, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  9. Keep because Akule needs to get laid or something - If Jedaz = 05:20, 7 September 2007 (BST) then pi = 2 + 1
  10. Delete - because we dont have a choice. kevan has made himself clear.--'BPTmz 05:50, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  11. Keep - GTFO. --Cyberbob DORIS CGR U! 07:42, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  12. Delete Just because I disagree with a law doesn't mean I get to break that law - Vantar 14:09, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  13. keep This is not a commercial website. It is a freely available resource which supports a free to play web based game. Show me a single page in this wiki which charges a fee to browse and i will happily vote to delete any copyrighted material there. A users page is regarded as his own property (with certain limitations) and he is responsible for its creation and content, if he makes no charge to access it it isn't a commercial site. Oh and once again.... go get laid you sad little F****R!!!!--Honestmistake 16:38, 7 September 2007 (BST)
    Ok I'll do you one better I'll give a part of wiki you have to pay to post in as well as part of the game you have to pay in order to access. paying in the game & paying for access to the wiki I'll agree with you that the players don't have to pay but that doesn't make the site non commercial.- Vantar 00:02, 8 September 2007 (BST)
    regardless of how one wishes to interpret the commerciality of this site what FOX are asking (demanding) is that there stuff is not used for commercial purposes. In this case it is not. In line with their policy it is being used for "for personal, non-commercial purposes"--Honestmistake 01:50, 9 September 2007 (BST)
    ? if this site is commercial than it being displayed here is commercial use. - Vantar 03:53, 9 September 2007 (BST)
    The image in question is being used for personal reasons (which Fox allow) The poster has not placed it in any context that could be considered commercial. The sites host could well be considered to be commercial but the function of this whole site is to act as a free resource for the players of a game, their is NO commercial intent by the poster or those who may view his page. This whole matter (and all the proceeding crap) are based entirely on Akules decision to use this wiki as a way to pad out his fucking CV for when he finishes his law degree. He is very cynically hunting down these images for his own selfish ends and couldn't give a toss if they are legitimate so long as he can suck up to his future employers with his "fight against internet piracy" as such all these cases are pretty much bad faith and should get him banned. Anyone who actually believes he cares should lend me $50 as i know a way too make it into millions!!!! --Honestmistake 12:31, 9 September 2007 (BST)
    Don't forget to add the part where I am over twelve feet tall, breathe fire, and shoot lightning bolts out of my ass. If we are going to define my backstory, it should be a good one. I'd also like a mansion and a yacht, if possible. --Akule School's in session. 02:17, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    Hey, it's your backstory. If you want to live on the moon, go for it! I always pictured you as a sort of Atticus though. Except not as cool. :).-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:25, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    Atticus Finch? That sounds good. --Akule School's in session. 02:39, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    Can I have a flying car?--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 02:20, 12 September 2007 (BST)
    No, no way. If I haven't got a flying car, no-one can have one. So there :-P--Seventythree 22:11, 14 September 2007 (BST)
  14. Delete as per policy. If fair use ever is decided to be kosher, and Kevan blesses that, then that's entirely another matter. It's not our place to actively work against site policy though. --Pgunn 16:46, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  15. Keep - fair use --~~~~ [Talk] 16:53, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  16. Keep - If Fox has anything against the use of this or any other image in this community, let them come and ask for these images to be removed. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 17:40, 7 September 2007 (BST)
    • Surely then you won't object to some of us hunting down copyright owners and informing them of the situation? I'm sure Kevan will enjoy receiving the cease-and-desist letters, right? --Pgunn 19:32, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  17. Keep - The image is not being used for commercial purposes. The Wiki and the Urbandead websites are two totally different entities. The UD Wiki has advertisements on it to cover the cost of the wiki, I seriously doubt he is making a profit. As well, even on the main UD website (where you can play the game), he is asking for 'donations' rather than demanding money to play. It's a free game you retards, just like it is a free Wiki. L2lawyer --Ryiis 19:45, 7 September 2007 (BST)
    Free does not mean non commercial, a failing company is still a commercial entity. Not to say that this is a failing website, just that no matter if the goal is to make money or not this is a commercial website - Vantar 00:07, 8 September 2007 (BST)
    We could argue semantics all day long - is Urbandead a registered commercial business in the United Kingdom? If the answer is no, then is it an incorporated entity? We could go in circles all day long, chasing our tails - my point is that the image is not being used to make a profit, and this is not some gigantic corporate entitity making money off of someone's work -- Ryiis 16:33, 9 September 2007 (BST)
    The wiki is separate from Urban Dead. It's linked from there, and provided by the same person with the purpose of being an informational resource but, it's on a completely separate server, has no donations system or other means to gain money through it, does not charge for use, does not have ads, doesn't even require you to play the game or donate to it. The wiki earns 0 moneys last I checked.--Karekmaps?! 22:02, 10 September 2007 (BST)
    Do you have adblock plus or something? Cuz the wiki does have ads (screenie taken in IE since I got adblock myself).--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 22:26, 10 September 2007 (BST)
    Yes actually, and I completely forgot about it. Ignore me, I'm obviously delusional.--Karekmaps?! 23:44, 10 September 2007 (BST)
    Regardless... non-for-profit organizations can collect money to put towards their operating costs - yet they are not considered commercial entities. What makes this wiki different? Even non-for-profit organizations can pay the people who run the organization - after all, very few people would devote 8 hours a day altruistically with nothing in return. That's why I ask - is this a registered company in the United Kingdom? Does Kevan have a business license to be operating this wiki, or the Urban Dead website? Does he even need one? Because if he does, he has more pressing matters to attend to if he is operating a business without a license. --Ryiis 23:16, 10 September 2007 (BST)
  18. Keep - --The Hierophant 23:43, 7 September 2007 (BST)
  19. Keep - if Kevan comes in and starts slapping down a bunch of delete votes in this space, then I'll take his cue. In the meantime, ambiguity (in the law and elsewhere) rules. --Barbecue Barbecue 00:45, 8 September 2007 (BST)
  20. Keep Hagnet put this wonderful little copyright template up letting EVERYONE know that the image does not belong to UD and that UD is not using said image to make a profit. --Rogue 19:21, 8 September 2007 (BST)
  21. Keep - Because I like it, and it's only use is on an ex GC'ers page.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 18:29, 9 September 2007 (BST)
  22. Keep - Because Akule needs to get laid or something. --User:Axe27/Sig 00:29, 10 September 2007 (BST)
  23. Keep --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 16:19, 11 September 2007 (BST)
  24. Keep - I saw "disk space = cheep!" somewhere - we should keep everything for *just* this reason. 'arm. 16:24, 12 September 2007 (BST)
  25. Delete - its a pic of bender, I did some reserch on futurama not long ago...and I remember that all matearial from the show is subject to copyright. this pic is part of that matearial...I guess. The man 16:34, 13 September 2007 (BST)
  26. Delete - I am a graphic artist...and I'll tell you right now all I have to show is that I didn't make any revenue off the use of my art for any reason. It doesn't matter if the person using it is making any money off of it or not. I simply have to show that I was not compensated for the use of my art. And this wiki doesn't in any way shape or form represent an educational tool.--Kristi of the Dead 00:39, 15 September 2007 (BST)

Kept --ZombieSlay3rSig.pngT 14:17, 21 September 2007 (BST)

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Need for this image no longer exists --Morlond T•₪ 02:34, 15 September 2007 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete I heard it ws requested by the author Nalikill 04:38, 15 September 2007 (BST)
    actually, unused images are simply deleted. --People's Commissar Hagnat [cloned] [mod] 05:12, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  2. SpeedyDelete - crit 1, duplicates Image:RA_tranz-75x.gif --~~~~ [Talk] 09:26, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete - Plus Scheduled. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 21:25, 18 September 2007 (BST)
Deleted. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 21:29, 18 September 2007 (BST)

Image:Night_Ravers_sm.png

Need for this file nolonger exists --Morlond T•₪ 02:29, 15 September 2007 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete Because the author wanted it to, apparently. Nalikill 04:37, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  2. SpeedyDelete - crit 1, duplicates Image:Night Ravers sm.gif --~~~~ [Talk] 09:21, 15 September 2007 (BST)
  3. Spam - Image:Night Ravers sm.gif was uploaded because of transparency issues on some browsers with Image:Night_Ravers_sm.png. --Morlond T•₪ 02:17, 16 September 2007 (BST)
    really, take this to A/SD --~~~~ [talk] 16:32, 16 September 2007 (BST)
    Don't. I voted keep. Nalikill 16:37, 16 September 2007 (BST)
  4. Speedy Delete - Plus Scheduled. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 21:25, 18 September 2007 (BST)
Deleted. --Max Grivas JG / M.F.T. 21:29, 18 September 2007 (BST)
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