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This is the archive page for UDWiki:Moderation/Deletions. This page represents all Deletions archived in the month of August 2006.

Deletion Requests

Gaviners

Old group, I'm the only author (but left it ages ago) and the other members are stopping playing --Medicy 19:53, 31 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete --Medicy 19:53, 31 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete - You know, you could have placed this directly to Speedy Deletion... --Brizth M T 19:55, 31 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete - Crit 7 & 12 --Max Grivas JG,T,Max4Mod,F! 19:57, 31 August 2006 (BST)
Speedily deleted. --Brizth M T 19:59, 31 August 2006 (BST)

Christian Decency Foundation

Moved from M/SD --Brizth M T 03:45, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Crit 2. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:22, 16 August 2006 (BST)

This is no keep, but it looks more like a group waiting to gather some members.. --Niilomaan GRR! 20:29, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  1. Keep - The page is too new, isn't offensive, and actually mentiones Malton and Zombies in its core text making it on-topic. This is simply the Lord's humble opinion. Let's see how it goes in Deletions so the creator has a couple weeks to build the page. -- (The Lord God) † Pray 01:27, 17 August 2006 (BST)
    • The Lord hath changed his mind. No "CDF" group from Scinfaxi going around bombing abortion clinics in order to smear another group with the same initials, thank you! -- (The Lord God) † Pray 05:20, 17 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Keep - What God said. – Nubis NWO 18:43, 17 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Keep - My idea is make them make the first move. If its hostile or not nice, we ban. If its just a group thing, then keep.--Canuhearmenow 18:44, 17 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Delete - Scinfaxi has mentioned to me that his next plan involves stirring up shit about abortion. The initials are 'CDF' and though it wasn't created by Scinfaxi, this looks like his particular brand of crap.--Gage • ASS 04:05, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete - I will NOT support any religious based anything, especially if it's purpose is to stir up shit. --CaptainM 04:19, 18 August 2006 (BST)
    Vote struck out, trolling. Contest on talk page. --LibrarianBrent 18:50, 26 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete - Vote may change if worthwhile content appears. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 04:52, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Delete - Conndrakamod T CFT 08:49, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Delete - As it is now, it's just another random page made by a random user to annoy not so random people (us). Hooray! --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 09:23, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Keep- What a bunch of hypocrites. Attacking a group because you believe scinfaxi is involved with it even though it has posted nothing offensive, bad faith, or off topic. The only evidence that scinfaxi is involved in this comes from someone who claims to have gotten it by violating the confidentiality of his own forum. Not exactly a trust worthy source in my opinion.Jjames 00:45, 19 August 2006 (BST)
    The Lord God does not wish to clutter the page, so just picture the {{CryMorePlease}} template here. -- (The Lord God) † Pray 02:21, 19 August 2006 (BST)
  10. Keep... for now - The page could be the precursor for something that might be a good addition to the wiki, OR it could turn out to be another avenue through which trolls can work to irritate people. I suggest that we stay the execution of this page to see if it is expanded, and if it is, what direction that expansion goes in. I say we move forward with the anti-discrimination policies to thwart any further religiously offensive trolling. Keep it for now. --Kiki Lottaboobs 12:45, 19 August 2006 (BST)
  11. Keep - Everything has value! Scinfaxi 02:16, 21 August 2006 (BST)
  12. Keep - It hasn't done anything offensive yet, has it? --Thom Flask 20:36, 28 August 2006 (BST)
  13. Keep. --LibrarianBrent 18:50, 26 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator: Kept. --Brizth M T 12:30, 31 August 2006 (BST)

Template:Operation White Storm

This is just getting pathetic. OWS was barely funny to begin with. Its million derivatives were anything but funny. This is just too much. Let it die. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 10:10, 16 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Delete - This needs to die--Gage • ASS 14:20, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - For great justice. –Xoid S•T•FU! 14:21, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete - And serve on a platter, with Rye Bread and some Mayo.--Canuhearmenow 14:26, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Delete - Pillsy 16:15, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete - We need to get that discriminatory comment policy finished so someone can start getting banned for this trash. --Kiki Lottaboobs 11:39, 17 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Keep- You can't allow people to call us racists and supremecists if we can't put up our POV. Censorship works both ways.Jjames 23:46, 17 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Delete - They're racists and supremecists. -- (The Lord God) † Pray 01:22, 18 August 2006 (BST)
    • Well, I wuoldn't talk much about that "supremacy" issue if I were you... You're the one that call himself "God" and treat everyone else as inferior people, calling them your sons. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 04:13, 18 August 2006 (BST)
    • Vandal vote struck. –Xoid S•T•FU! 09:14, 22 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Delete --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 04:54, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Delete --CaptainM 05:04, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  10. Delete - That crap has to stop. It will make everyone's life easier because theres a bunch of vandal crap reports on that page. --Gold Blade Hunt! 20:40, 21 August 2006 (BST)
    #Keep --Wow. People want to keep the Wiki Gestapo template, yet want to delete OWS? --A1C JerryASS•PK•ASA•T22:39, 24 August 2006 (BST)
  11. Delete --They killed OWS! You bastards! --A1C JerryASS•PK•ASA•T22:12, 25 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator: Deleted. --Brizth M T 12:30, 31 August 2006 (BST)

Operation Yellow Storm

from M/SD

I would post them for deletions like the other ones are, but it's pretty clear that we don't want this kind of pages on our Wiki. I hope Bob's policy passes soon. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 03:58, 16 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Delete Keep - this belongs in M/D as it isn't really off topic, since it is an in game event. Any mod that deletes this under criterion two would get a lot of shit.--Gage • ASS 06:49, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - You really like to stir shit up, don't you Gage? --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 06:50, 16 August 2006 (BST)
    • Re - actually not, I was talking with Xoid over MSN, and he said he wouldn't touch this. I will even change my vote to delete now that it is on the page.--Gage • ASS 06:53, 16 August 2006 (BST)
    Tsk... I understand Xoid's decission, but personally (and this can be contested) I think this is offtopic as the event isn't ever going to be really held in-game. OWS was "held" at the Crossman with a surprise announcement that said "OMGERZ ITS NOW!!!1!" and after 4 hours Scinfaxi said "it's over, thousands concurred", at wich Jjames replied "not thousands, millions". Look at my eyes (as if anyone could =P) and tell me that that's true. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 07:02, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete - I actually asked him to, Matt. We both know that the fuck knuckles from the OBS camp would bring a misconbitration case against the moderator who deleted it. I would have moved it myself, had he not asked about it first. –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:54, 16 August 2006 (BST)
    As i said, I understand... ---Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 07:02, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Delete - Come on, this isn't a real in-game event.--Thari T/C/TJ! 06:58, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete - A joke long gone old. Also I think you did the right thing by moving it here. --Niilomaan GRR! 08:14, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete - I wasn't going to touch this with a fifty foot pole on M/SD, but now that it's here, I will say that I think all this shit needs to go. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 10:08, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Delete - Now we should just ban the combination "Operation" And "Storm"--Canuhearmenow 14:26, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Delete - Pillsy 16:19, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Delete - More inane trolling. --Kiki Lottaboobs 11:37, 17 August 2006 (BST)
  10. Delete --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 04:55, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  11. Delete - Make it all die. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 07:39, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  12. Delete--Mr yawn 23:00, 19 August 2006 (BST)
    In the future, please number your votes properly. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 23:11, 19 August 2006 (BST)
  13. Delete-- Made to be racist, not funny. --A1C JerryASS•PK•ASA•T 09:39, 30 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator: Deleted. --Brizth M T 12:30, 31 August 2006 (BST)

Black Death

I wasn't a sure about this one but it seems as though it was the users only contributions to create this page. Last edit over 2 months ago and I have never seen them active. Pillsy F! 13:26, 30 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete - Crit 12. Close on the two month spec but good to go. --Max Grivas JG,T,P!,Bob06! 13:47, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete El pronto flusho Conndrakamod T CFT 15:11, 30 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete - Criterion 12--∴Gage 15:26, 30 August 2006 (BST)
Speedily Deleted – Nubis NWO 15:27, 30 August 2006 (BST)

Three Odd Edits

I don't see how I can qualifies these for speedies? If a criteria comes to mind please advise. I dont know if they are vandalism or just n00b behaviour syndrome. I guess they could be merged into the users space? They seem like misplaced poorly named sandbox items. --Max Grivas JG,T,P!,Bob06! 21:43, 28 August 2006 (BST)

Um, they already are in the speedy deletion queue... Criterion 1, btw. --Brizth M T 21:45, 28 August 2006 (BST)
Thanks. --Max Grivas JG,T,P!,Bob06! 21:50, 28 August 2006 (BST)
Now thats pretty darn speedy. --Max Grivas JG,T,P!,Bob06! 22:37, 28 August 2006 (BST)

Operation White Storm

Moved from M/SD:

The definition of "off topic". So says the Lord God. -- (GOD) † 01:24, 11 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Keep - ha, now you have to move it to M/D--Gage 02:03, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Keep-How is an in-game event being announced on the wiki off topic? Surely this isn't actually against any rules?Jjames 03:43, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete- After careful consideration, I vote to Delete this page. Without a specific date, this is not even an actual event, but rather a placeholder for inflammatory rhetoric. The UD characters are colorless and raceless, so a discussion about race truly is off topic. This is trolling, and the author is just trying to irritate other people. If you want to have a conversation about race (or in this case an event that revolves around it), have it elsewhere. Delete this garbage. --Kiki Lottaboobs 07:39, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Keep- There's no shame in pride! Wooooooooo! Only thing it needs is a gun rack. Seriously though, you can't just delete pages you don't like. That's a bad precedent. Scinfaxi 08:32, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 09:22, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete - CharlieMarrow 09:25, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Delete - --Brizth M T 10:34, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Delete - one need only see that Scinfaxi's name is associated with it to know that it is designed to be hateful and drama-stirring. --Jorm 20:04, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Delete - Meh. If they both get deleted the arb case will be unnecessary. –Xoid S•T•FU! 20:05, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  10. Delete - I still say this is funny (it's pretty obviously a parody, after all), but the off-topic argument is valid, I think. I'd be a hypocrite if I voted to keep this. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 20:11, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  11. Delete - --Vista 20:52, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  12. Delete -Canuhearmenow 21:15, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  13. Delete - Ironically humorous, but tasteless nonetheless. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 01:18, 12 August 2006 (BST)
  14. Delete - Self-explanatory. --V2Blast T•P!•C•SR 01:42, 12 August 2006 (BST)
  15. Keep - Bad Taste but Nooo can we say Censorship? --Technerd CFT 05:08, 12 August 2006 (BST)
    Re: - Yes we can. Let's use Censorship well within our rights to get rid of this poop. So speaketh the Lord God. -- (GOD) † God 06:09, 12 August 2006 (BST)
    Re: - Don't look at it as censorship, look at it as retention of focus. This is a game about zombies, not about race. --Kiki Lottaboobs 11:35, 13 August 2006 (BST)
    Tally: 4 Keep 11 Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 06:17, 12 August 2006 (BST)
  16. Delete - We don't need this kind of inflamatory content on the wiki. Everyone that know a little about Scinfaxi (except maybe his own alts) know that under this polite shell lies a childish attempt to create drama for his own amusement. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 08:22, 12 August 2006 (BST)
  17. Delete --hagnat mod 21:35, 13 August 2006 (BST)
  18. Delete --Canuhearmenow 15:35, 14 August 2006 (BST)
    Duplicate vote struck--Gage • ASS 07:09, 15 August 2006 (BST)
  19. Delete --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 19:19, 14 August 2006 (BST)
  20. Delete - (Adopted Canuhearmenow's vote) --Niilomaan GRR! 09:57, 15 August 2006 (BST)
    Tally: 4 Keep 15 Delete 1 Struck Conndrakamod T CFT 10:50, 15 August 2006 (BST)
  21. Delete - Pillsy 16:19, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  22. Delete - for obvious reason. --Mr yawn 23:01, 19 August 2006 (BST)
  23. Keep -Come on. Heavens forbid a joke. The only reason why this is up for deletion is because some stupid prick took it literally. --A1C JerryASS•PK•ASA•T08:28, 25 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted. - Jedaz 13:02, 25 August 2006 (BST)

Operation Black Storm

This page is a blatant copycat of Operation White Storm, which, although it edges on going over the line, doesn't actually cross it, and is more ironically humorous and provocative than anything else. Operation Black Storm, however, directly attacks other people (just read their list of "Contributions of the white race"), and so, it should be deleted. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 22:45, 10 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Keep - this is a joke. Get over it.--Gage 03:34, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - This version of Operation White Storm is obviously racist. Not the same as the original. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 03:36, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Keep-I disagree with what they have to say, but I would defend to the death their right to say it. (I'm all for black pride, but not at the expense of any other race)Jjames 03:45, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Delete- After careful consideration, I vote to Delete this page. As above, without a specific date, this is not even an actual event, but rather a placeholder for inflammatory rhetoric. While I recognize that this page is a retaliation for Operation White Storm, the fact remains that UD characters are colorless and a discussion about race truly is off topic. The author is just trying to irritate the authors of Operation White Storm. If you want to have a conversation about race (or in this case an event that revolves around it), have it elsewhere. Delete this garbage, too. --Kiki Lottaboobs 07:42, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    In response to the above comment, I must disagree. Urban Dead is heavily influenced by Night Of The Living Dead, a huge critique of racial discrimination against African Americans that was prevalent in North America at the time. In fact the whole zombie/human situation in Urban Dead can be seen as a racial divide with humans as whites and zombies as blacks. The fact that the blacks/zombies are portrayed as mindless automatons is a direct representation of black people as mindless machines, the basis of the slave trade. So there :) But as I have already said, if you get rid of the OWS page, I will be perfectly happy for mine to go - CharlieMarrow 08:49, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    You do know that you are sounding far more racist than the creators of OWS, right? –Xoid S•T•FU! 09:19, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    But I'm not racist. How can I be when I'm white myself? - CharlieMarrow 09:25, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    You can be racist against your own race. Rarer than hell, but it is possibile. –Xoid S•T•FU! 09:27, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    Just because I can doesn't mean I am. I have nothing for respect for all races, but I detest Pro-White Extremists holding events, hence my Pro-Black (and other races) social event - CharlieMarrow 09:51, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    There is a difference between "pro-black" and "anti-white", and you know it. If you want to turn Operation Black Storm into a proper pride rally instead of this disgustingly hateful bullshit you currently have, feel free. As it stands though, don't be surprised if it gets deleted before the other one. Operation White Storm is more "Stupid White Folks Rally" if you read it. –Xoid S•T•FU! 09:55, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    It can hardly be racist if the OWS page isn't. It's more honest - CharlieMarrow 19:06, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    The OWS page does not denigrate any other race. The OBS page does. –Xoid S•T•FU! 19:47, 11 August 2006 (BST)
    I should note, just an aside, that the idea that Night of the Living Dead was intended as a critique of racial discrimination is a misconception that has been specifically disavowed by George Romero. The lead was a black guy because he was the best (maybe the only, I don't remember) actor who wanted the part. How it should be, you ask me. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 20:14, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 09:22, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete --Brizth M T 10:35, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Delete - Meh. If they both get deleted the arb case will be unnecessary. –Xoid S•T•FU! 20:06, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Delete - It's kind of sad that these guy's idea of "pride" is attacking others. Grow the fuck up, mm? --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 20:08, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Delete - --Vista 20:52, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  10. Delete -Canuhearmenow 21:17, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  11. Delete - Also self-explanatory. --V2Blast T•P!•C•SR 01:49, 12 August 2006 (BST)
  12. Keep - Bad Taste but Nooo can we say Censorship? --Technerd CFT 05:10, 12 August 2006 (BST)
    Re: - Don't look at it as censorship, look at it as retention of focus. This is a game about zombies, not about race. --Kiki Lottaboobs 11:36, 13 August 2006 (BST)
  13. Delete --hagnat mod 21:36, 13 August 2006 (BST)
    Tally: 3 Keep 10 Delete
  14. Delete --Canuhearmenow 15:36, 14 August 2006 (BST)
    Duplicate vote struck --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 07:31, 15 August 2006 (BST)
  15. Delete --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 19:20, 14 August 2006 (BST)
  16. Delete - (Adopted Canuhearmenow's vote) --Niilomaan GRR! 09:59, 15 August 2006 (BST)
  17. Delete - Pillsy 16:19, 16 August 2006 (BST)
  18. Delete --Mr yawn 23:03, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted - Jedaz 08:49, 24 August 2006 (BST)

Useless?

Moved from M/SD:

–Xoid S•T•FU! 15:41, 10 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete Following crit 1 for everyone, but this one.--Thari T/C/TJ! 15:47, 10 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete except for TMH I beleive the person that edits their Wiki is offline until the Beggining of september. Conndrakamod TCFT 09:22, 11 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete - But as above, TMH for the same reason. Pillsy 13:40, 17 August 2006 (BST) (I added this yesterday but I didn't timestamp, sorry)
  4. Delete - All except TMH and Judges Nine. Unless someone can spot another keeper in there. –Xoid S•T•FU! 13:42, 22 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted apart from TMH and Judges Nine, TMH appears to already have been deleted. - Jedaz 08:07, 23 August 2006 (BST)

Restored - TMH, as it was deleted ahead of time, and against consensus. –Xoid S•T•FU! 09:17, 23 August 2006 (BST)

Deweys Decimals

Another old, non-used group. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 16:44, 7 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 17:08, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:19, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete - It even looks boring. --Niilomaan GRR! 21:23, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Delete - And next time, just put this stuff on M/SD. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 08:49, 8 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete - Crit 1 for SD.--Thari T/C/TJ! 15:43, 10 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete --Kiki Lottaboobs 08:04, 11 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted - Jedaz 09:49, 22 August 2006 (BST)

Sonnys delusion

This too. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS

  1. Delete - Other that that (funny) image, it's rather useless. --Niilomaan GRR! 23:46, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - Devoid of anything remotely approaching worth. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 23:47, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete - Useless page attacking another Wiki User. No need of it. -- BeefSteak WTF 23:51, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Delete - Stupid, Pathetic, Asinine, Moronic. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:54, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Merge - Personal Page (Prefix Rule): The page is named after a user without the "User:" or "Journal:" prefixes. Content should be merged with Sillybird's User or Journal page. Technically no reason for deletion was cited for this entry, so this deletion request wasn't submitted properly. --Kiki Lottaboobs 01:21, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    When I made the Amazing Saga and the Epic Battle I was told that it was not allowed. It was deleted because it wasn't allowed. And I didn't give a reason because I should have put it with the other but I forgot to. I made them two seperate cases. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS
    Technically you have no idea what you're talking about. Not only are you quoting part of a speedy deletion criterion as the reason for your "merge" (and one that doesn't apply at that, since there is no user named "Sonnys delusion"), but the reason for deletion is implied by the thing just below this one, and besides that, would be obvious to anyone who actually read the page. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 04:56, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    Actually you aren't 100% right, Bob. The Guidelines for Deletion say "All Deletion Requests must contain the following information in order to be considered..." and "A reason for deletion." is item 2 on that list. But, hey, I'm not a complete stickler for the rules; the reason is it ruffles Sonny's feathers - that's cool, there's the reason. You are right about me pulling reasoning from the Speedy Deletions Eligibility, my bad. Although, it still belongs on a user page. My vote stands. --Kiki Lottaboobs 05:27, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    I'm glad we can all be mature here. If someone uploaded this about you I would vote delete because I'm a reasonable guy out of game. In game I may think you're as sharp a plastic spoon but out of game I could respect you. Too bad you don't feel the same about others. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 05:26, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    Good to know. Thank you, Sonny! --Kiki Lottaboobs 05:30, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete - It's a brazenly transparent attempt to stir up yet another UD Wiki shitstorm. Nervie 02:07, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Move - Put it in the guy's userspace or take it to Arbitration. -- (GOD) 02:18, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Move - Put it on the userpage so we know who exactly wants to proclaim themself as a douchebag. --Karlsbad 02:33, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Delete - If the Amazing Saga and the Epic Battle got deleted, then this gets deleted too. This crap is just as insulting and pointless. –Xoid S•T•FU! 03:44, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  10. Delete - funny, but as it targets a user directly, it probably should go. --Gage 05:42, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  11. Delete - This isn't cool - it was almost funny for a minute. But it doesn't go on the wiki unless it's part of the User namespace,and even then, it's questionable. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 20:56, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  12. Delete - The wiki is cluttered up with too much negativity. --Atari Techno 22:20, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  13. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 17:08, 7 August 2006 (BST)


  • Moderation - This is clearly something made in bad faith, aimed to offend sonny and the RRF. Therefore i am not going to wait two weeks to delete this crap. Next time, sonny, post this on Speedy Deletion. --hagnat mod 22:12, 13 August 2006 (BST)
  • Moderator: Restored; improper deletion ahead of time. See M/M for details. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 05:03, 14 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted. Cyberbob  Talk  05:29, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Image:Sonny.jpg

I am offended by that. It seems survivors think it is low to accuse bots but not low enough to do that. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 23:35, 5 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Delete - I think it's damn funny. Tho that anal-part is not that nice. Make a bit sensured version and it's a keep. --Niilomaan GRR! 23:46, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  1. Delete - People who play Survivors need to get off their high horse. This is stupid. -- BeefSteak WTF 23:50, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - Stupid, Pathetic, Asinine, Moronic. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:54, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Keep - What is the reason for the deletion? It offends you? Take that to arbitration. --Kiki Lottaboobs 01:21, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    Because it is an uploaded image of someone impersonating me and claiming I am gay. Which is used in a negative way that will insult those that are homosexual. If only Wyn were still here. He'd fight for justice. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 01:23, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    Is that the name of your character? --Kiki Lottaboobs 05:27, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    If it was then would that be under "stealing my account"? Hence why it's called impersonating me. Like 'CowboyUp impersonating CowboyUp. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 05:33, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Keep - I see absolutely no actual reason for deletion unless your ingame name is "SonnySeesBots". -- (GOD) 02:00, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    Besides the fact that the person insults homosexuals and is impersonating me? Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 02:04, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    Is your name SonnySeesBots? Look to other cases for examples of blanket insults being slid through. Granted there are an equal amount that are deleted. WTFangels!? -- (GOD) 02:15, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete Criteron 1, no content, and it is personally insulting to see the concept of homosexuality used in a derogetory manner. --Karlsbad 02:12, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete - Just re-read it. It's saying he butt fucked a robot. Since robots are genderless, it ain't homophobic. Still stupid, and pointless. –Xoid S•T•FU! 05:56, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Delete - I don't see a reference to anal sex being a reference to homosexuality, because you can have heterosexual anal sex... but I since it is a blatant attack on Sonny, it has to go. --Gage 05:51, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Delete - This isn't cool - it was almost funny for a minute. But it doesn't go on the wiki unless it's part of the User namespace,and even then, it's questionable. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 20:56, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 17:08, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  • Moderation - This is clearly something made in bad faith, aimed to offend sonny and the RRF. Therefore i am not going to wait two weeks to delete this crap. Next time, sonny, post this on Speedy Deletion. --hagnat mod 21:46, 13 August 2006 (BST)
  • Moderator: Would be restored if software permitted; improper deletion ahead of time. See M/M for details. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 05:05, 14 August 2006 (BST)

Queer Jew Revive Page

Moved from M/SD

Criteion 1: Not updated since january. Also kinda wierd. YbborT 14:42, 5 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Keep - I like it. It's funny. Also it's part of this and it HAS been used. --Niilomaan 15:09, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - I can't see anything useful on the page. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 18:57, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 17:08, 7 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted. Cyberbob  Talk  05:29, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Wiki Gestapo

criterion 7. I have had my laugh, and the template now links to M/VB.--Gage 23:57, 4 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Keep - C'mon. You may have had your fun, but there are others who still think it's funny. –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:40, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - criterion 7. sticklers are mean people --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 06:43, 5 August 2006 (BST)
    But it ain't criterion 7. Others have contributed to it, and will continue to. (Hopefully.) –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:53, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete - As much as I hate to do this,...lol! (0MG3R$ B@D 33NGLI$H!!1) I burst out laughing as I typed that. I find it offensive.--Labine50 MHG|MalTel 06:57, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Delete - With people railing against "black people die first" on the suggestion page, you'd think this would've been eradicated. God loves all people equally. (Except you. Yes, you.) -- (GOD) 06:58, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Keep - What would this wiki be without it's own Gestapo?? Have you thought of that? --Niilomaan 13:27, 5 August 2006 (BST)
    Re: - What about faith? -- (GOD) 19:23, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete - I prefer Project UnWelcome myself. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 19:30, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  7. Delete - Ugh. Funny but needs to go. We need to focus on getting new wiki contributors, not driving them away. --Atari Techno 22:27, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  8. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 17:08, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  9. Delete - In favour of Project UnWelcome. --Bonefiver 22:20, 12 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted. Cyberbob  Talk  05:29, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Willum J. Kersley

Putting this up for deletion myself, in case anybody thinks that it's canon. It looks like it's been moved safely to the Lexicon game, where it belongs. --Kevan 04:56, 5 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1 (Conflicts with the Lexicon, no real possibility of merging). Maybe save the images and their descriptions. –Xoid S•T•FU! 05:07, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 06:02, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Keep - It is part of the Families of Malton storylines that Conndraka and I began. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 06:41, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Merge - images with the Lexicon game. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 07:19, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Delete Conndrakamod TCFT 17:08, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Delete - Oh god... It's not even funny. --Niilomaan GRR! 14:50, 17 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted. Cyberbob  Talk  05:29, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Template:Amazod

A template specifically attacking me created by BobHammero. The template suggests I am the user Amazing which I am not. Also portrays my character as negative on the wiki, which I am not. I can see no way this template can be used in good faith. There have been multiple arb rulings specifically dealing with targeted, personal attacks through templates, mainly here , here and here. In the spirit of the wiki, what is good for one user should be good for all. --Zod Rhombus 00:59, 3 August 2006 (BST)

  • Keep - Not at all, dear Zod, not at all. I have simply thought up a fictional character named Amazod that is some bizarre hybrid of you and Amazing. I think you're a fine contributor indeed. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 01:02, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep -
FP711-2-EB309142545-B.jpg Cry More Please
Aaaaawww… Does someone need a hug? What about a blankie?

--Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 01:09, 3 August 2006 (BST)

  • Keep - It never mentions you. It is a picture of Amazing's "police officer on steroids" with a Rhombus around it saying "Amazod". No where does it pick you out by name. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 01:12, 3 August 2006 (BST)
RE - It linked directly to my user page, which mentions me. I see Bob has put it up for Speedy Delete. Thank you. --Zod Rhombus 01:20, 3 August 2006 (BST)
As proof of my good intentions, yes. Now if you would be so kind as to drop your vandalism case against me as proof of yours, I think we can avoid a lot of drama. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 01:24, 3 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator: Deleted, criteria 7 and vandalism. –Xoid S•T•FU! 02:03, 3 August 2006 (BST)

I reviewed my decision on M/VB, and have restored this page accordingly to serve it's two weeks. –Xoid S•T•FU! 08:13, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - certainly not nice, but considering what people did to Amazing, it has to be allowed. --Gage 16:53, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Past injustices are no reason to allow them in the present. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 17:35, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Wasn't this nominated Crit 7 Speedy Delete by the author? Why has someone else brought it back? This is a negative template in bad faith only meant to antagonize another user (me - it links to my user page). There is no possible way this template can be used in good faith. It can only start a template war which would not serve the spirit of the wiki. --Zod Rhombus 23:43, 3 August 2006 (BST)
    • Existing keep votes over rule speedy deletion. It was only deleted in the first place due to my mistaken identification of it as vandalism. –Xoid S•T•FU! 02:37, 4 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I laughed so hard at this I nearly fell out of my chair. Kudos, Bob! Cyberbob  Talk  08:04, 4 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Am I missing something or does this include crosshairs trained on Zod's image, which might as well be a photo of him? The Lord does not see how this would be needed even if it wasn't overtly threatening.-- (GOD) 07:00, 5 August 2006 (BST)
    • God, you are so wrong. It's a picture of Amazing, and it's a rhombus around him. Get your facts straight. It's a wonder anything works in this universe with someone like you in charge. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 07:04, 5 August 2006 (BST)
    • Yeah, you are missing something. Notice the >> on one pair of parallel sides, and the single > on the other pair? It's a rhombus. Notice how the supposed crosshairs are dotted? It's how a rhombus is typically drawn in a math textbook. –Xoid S•T•FU! 07:05, 5 August 2006 (BST)
      • A pox on the both of you. It is what the Lord declares it to be, and let no man speak otherwise! -- (GOD) 07:07, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - How can this template be used in any good faith? It is clearly antagonizing a wiki user. --DarthRevan 08:33, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete This is a negative template TigerTodd 13:01, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - It's not that bad... And I'd like to keep the wiki free. Damn you for making me to vote! --Niilomaan 13:23, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Like Todd said, it's a negative template, and it will continue the template drama. Templates should not be used to antagonise members of the wiki. Johnny Rico 14:40, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Like Todd said, it's a negative template, and it will continue the template drama. Antagonazing Templates must be delete!!--Ledworm 19:17, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Like DarthRevan said. It's a negative template and it doesnt suffice with the spirit of the wiki. <Sev 07 08:30, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Too much negativity on the wiki can harm new prospects. Zod has been a good guy in the game and doesn't deserve this. --Atari Techno 22:24, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Acting like children makes the wiki a travesty at best, stop the childish beahvior and grow up is probably the best advice I could give here. --1 4 of CDF 05:27, 7 August 2006 (BST)

Moderator - Deleted. Cyberbob  Talk  05:29, 19 August 2006 (BST)

Shadowslasher Incorporated Pages & Cerberus

Well, we have the following.

They all have very little or no content and one of them even says the creator has left the game.

We also have the group page Cerberus which was last edited back at the start of April and is void of useful content. --Pillsy 14:31, 18 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. –Xoid S•T•FU! 14:33, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Gage • ASS 14:41, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete- Criterion 1. You know I dont normally vote for deletion of Group or locations stubs but damn... Did he think he was me or something? I mean really SEVEN pages for one group... who in their right mind... Oh. Wait. nevermind that last part. Conndrakamod T CFT 14:58, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Merge - Just move all the other under Shadowslasher Incorporated. Either merge them with it or put under it. --Niilomaan GRR! 15:42, 18 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 19:21, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Deleted per P&P Conndrakamod T CFT 23:01, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Not sure what Criterion, but...

(Moved from M/SD)

Blatantly sexist. Cyberbob  Talk  22:23, 2 August 2006 (BST)

If it doesn't have a definite criterion, doesn't that mean it has to go through M/D? It needs to die, but this doesn't seem right. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 22:32, 2 August 2006 (BST)
Yes. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 22:38, 2 August 2006 (BST)

It has been moved. Start voting...now! :P Cyberbob  Talk  22:37, 2 August 2006 (BST)

  • Delete - And die in a fire, you fucking sexist douche-bag. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 22:38, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - I like the idea of stop crying but calling someone a women? No. Maybe calling them an Amazing. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 22:39, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Damn. The wiki has sunk to new depths. Cyberbob  Talk  22:40, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Speedy Delete - Criteria 1. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 22:45, 2 August 2006 (BST)
    • Lol, what? --SirensT RR 23:03, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - ASAP, and watch this guy for other, warnable stuff. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 22:46, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - We can bash America, but god forbid there be Sexism on this Wiki! Talk about double standards. – Nubis NWO 23:05, 2 August 2006 (BST)
    As grandpappy always said, "two wrongs make a right!" –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:09, 2 August 2006 (BST)
    And there are plenty of votes to delete the other --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 23:11, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - I had a slight twitch when I saw it, so I know someone is going to be offended. --SirensT RR 23:08, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Not only gratuitously assholish, but redundant with the Cry More Please template we already have. Make it die. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 23:48, 2 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Sexism is bad. --Paradox244 03:40, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Ohhhhh HEllllll No. Conndrakamod TCFT 04:41, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - It's just obnoxious. Did someone think this was funny or something? Becase it's pretty much the opposite of that. --Rgon 06:23, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - There are only few kind of attacks that I don't like. Those are because of ethnicity, gender and race/color. Countries or any other reasons are not covered. --Niilomaan 14:14, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Even if you just base this on usage and relevance. But really that woman in the photo needs to stop crying or I'm not letting her past the pearly gates. Sheesh. -- (GOD) 23:37, 6 August 2006 (BST)
Moderator: Deleted. –Xoid S•T•FU! 14:36, 18 August 2006 (BST)

Template:Unamerican

Ok. I thought it was some kind of rule here that says you can't go after people's nationality and religion. I don't think it is appropriate for people to say they hate a whole nation. If someone created one about Mexico, Canada, France (maybe not France), England, Ireland, etc. it would be removed right away. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 22:35, 31 July 2006 (BST)

  • Delete - Given people's reaction to Scinfaxi's anti-Australian thing, there would definitely seem to be a precedent for this being Not Cool. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 22:38, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - No way. I'll fight for this one! --Niilomaan 22:40, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I think it's only an opinion, so why should it be deleted? --Mosqu 22:46, 31 July 2006 (BST)
    Because if it was against any other country it would be seen as wrong. Why double standards? Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 22:58, 31 July 2006 (BST)
    I thought that specific country is built on freedom of speech. I think that includes saying "I don't support you". Also I think we would both let you to say the same thing about Finland. --Niilomaan 23:07, 31 July 2006 (BST)
    This wiki was created on rules to not insult others. And that is not true. Scinfaxi made a template against Australia. Remember the stink people put up? Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 23:11, 31 July 2006 (BST)
    No I don't remember, but I would have voted Keep for that too. And saying "not support" barely counts as an insult. Also that flag isn't even burning or anything. --Niilomaan 23:14, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - Changing my vote to Keep. We can destroy the world 7 times with our Nuclear arsenal!!!!--Canuhearmenow 22:55, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - BLAME AMERICA!!!! Go back to sticking you heads in the sand... --Technerd CFT 22:58, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Nope. You can be pro-anything but not anti anybody. And An upside down US Flag has two conotations to those of us that have served in the Military, it can either represent a distress call (ala S.O.S.) or as a sign of surrender. Conndrakamod TCFT 23:32, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep Well... Why to delete something, that's already been made. And besides, that just showing someone's feelings. Same could be done by writing long, long letter on own wikipage. And that propably wouldn't be so nice text. --1nsane 23:51, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Stupid, Pathetic, Asinine, Moronic. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 23:53, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete Oh hell NO. And I fought in Americas most FUBAR'd war. Now if it was "This User Hates America's Politicians" I could go for that. But no... espescially with the upside down flag. General Alex Creedy 23:56, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I created this template, and I AM FROM AMERICA. --Gage 23:59, 31 July 2006 (BST)
    Quick Question, If any ethnicity was used to replace the word "America" would it be socially acceptable? And think about it before you awnser, cuz your awnser might spark a WORLD of wiki-drama. General Alex Creedy 00:02, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    I come from a country where the constitution grants you the right to free speech. So if someone came out saying they didn't like a certain ethnicity I think it would be very inappropriate, but as long as they don't hurl insults or make a scene, the comments would have to be allowed. --Gage 00:07, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Exactly. Why is it socially acceptable to be anti one country but not another? And Gage, this wiki doesn't allow you to say whatever you want. If it did then we wouldn't have Arbitration. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 00:10, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    I didn't know that America was somekind of ethnicity. If it would say that "not support black people" then maybe I would vote Delete. MAYBE. As a country? Never. --Niilomaan 00:15, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Gage, they made this because they are jealous our country has X10 more nukes then everyone else.--Canuhearmenow 00:17, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    "Why is it socially acceptable to be anti one country but not another?" It isn't. It should be socially acceptable to be anti any country. The anti Australia comments should have been allowed if they were as unobtrusive as this. I have lived in the USA for 18 years, and if anyone has the right to talk about it, it is me. --Gage 00:18, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Actually, From an American perspective (Which doesnt really matter here but we can get to that later) Five kinds of speech are NOT protected by the first Amendment. 1. Speach that endagers others. (shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater when there is no fire). 2. Sedition (Speach that encourages others to treason). 3. Riotous (Speech that encourages others to violence and felonious mayhem). 4. Hate Speach (Verbal defemation based upons one race, creed, ethnicity, or religion). and 5. Slander (Defemation based upon untrue statements presented as fact that creates an atmosphere of distrust or financial penalty towards an individual or organization). I Don't have my Supreame Court reference guide handy or I could quote you the various cses that set the precedents. #4 dates from the 1960's #5 from the 1860's and the first three come from the early 1800's. Free speach means you have the freedom to speak, but it doesnt mean you get to say what ever you want. Conndrakamod TCFT 00:20, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Thanks, I passed my American Government class too! This doesn't fit under any of the prohibited forms of free speach, so while the hell did you bring it up?--Gage 00:24, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Because it does fall under those confines. For former military Anglo-Saxon Protestants like "General Creedy" (a Col. in real life btw) your template is offensive as it violates our recognised creed. And I can honestly say there are those among us that consider it Sedition (I think thats a bit extream myself) and others who would be incited to riot by the sight of an upside down american flag. But irregaurdless, your statement creates a general level of anger and unease that doesnt belong on the wiki. More than likely the Template will be deleted once everyone has their say, And it would be a whole lot better if the situation resolves itself quickly and we can get back to arguing about less significant social issues like xml vrs hml. Conndrakamod TCFT 00:37, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Look, I am american also and I have to say is, if an american is making fun of his country why should foreigners get all upset?--Canuhearmenow 00:26, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    You might frustrate me to death sometimes Canuhearmenow, but for once you are right--Gage 00:28, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    America is not an ethnicity. It is a country. Australian is not an ethnicity, but why did that turn into something big? And I'm an American dumbass. Even if I wasn't I have the ability to respect each person's country. You however do not have the ability to respect your own. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 00:30, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    I respect America. I also DO NOT support it. And I think I have the right to say least that. I also respect other people's right to say they disagree with me. I just don't see the problem. --Niilomaan 00:33, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Show respect to Americans then. I find this to be disrespectful. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 00:34, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    We have several Americans on here, who have all voiced different opinions. I think that is great, not disrespectful.--Gage 00:36, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Its good old american democracy at work, HUZZAH!--Canuhearmenow 00:37, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Well... Like I would reply to any Finnish people saying that to me: Get over it! (Also I'm tired and going to bed. If I stop replying that means I'm asleep. 7 hours.) --Niilomaan 00:38, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Because someone from that country hates their country it means it's ok? Your logic is terrible. If I one day said kill the Jews I'd be reported. But hey, I'm Jewish so it means it's fine. I'm also Catholic, can I say fuck the Pope? I'm Italian so it should be ok for me to say Italy is a shitty country. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 00:44, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    I never said "Kill the Americans" or "Fuck America" or that "America is a shitty country" I said "America Sucks" which is not even a profanity. I also said that I didn't support it. Your logic is flawed, with your slippery slope mentality.--Gage 00:53, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete Excuse me, but what is this? Label something "unamerican". What's supposed to be American anyway, perhaps YOU (not me, I'm German) should define that first. And BTW: if I would set something up like an un-german-template everyone would come screaming F*****G NAZI, so no, no unamerican template. This is just a game! Have some fun for a change! This is not about politics and telling people what to think. Get a life! It really helps. ToasterCurry, 9:50 CET 1st August
    You can remove that when you get your sig right. Sorry. --Niilomaan 09:40, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Nothing wrong with the Sig. Not in standard format granted but it still has all the elements. Conndrakamod TCFT 11:33, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    I disagree, but if I overline it again I'll just seem like some narrow-minded moron. --Niilomaan 12:02, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • DELETE THE FUCK OUT OF IT - Gage. Fuck you. I hope you die slowly. Cyberbob  Talk  09:02, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Please. Try to keep it in some limits. --Niilomaan 09:40, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep or make it so any country name/flag can be used. (I love that this deletion request implies that it'd be perfectly socially acceptable to be anti-French.) --Censustaker 09:27, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    If someone actually put up an anti French template it would be taken down too. All joking aside content that is found to be overly offensive to the general public of the wiki is removed, hence this vote. Conndrakamod TCFT 11:33, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep It's our desicion to NOT support America. Not your's. You redneck patriots ... --Algofinland 09:53, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Free tip - if you're gonna insult the intelligence of others, you should probably try not to fuck up your own grammar when doing so. Oh, and fuck you, too. --Jimbo Bob ASS•U! 10:36, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep The template seems fairly accurate Pedrosanpedro 09:57, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - This template is fantastic! --Chewie 10:06, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - It's just a country. Some people think it sucks. Deal with it. Use {{flagbox}} instead, it ain't difficult. –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:03, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - I thought we already had this discussion about things that specifically target a user or group of people. Make it into a template where the flag and country can be changed. --SirensT RR 16:06, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    There already is a template that can achieve that: {{flagbox}}. That's what all of the "nation" userboxes are made out of, IIRC. –Xoid S•T•FU! 16:22, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    And yet you voted Keep, despite knowing that there was an easy way to end this controvery by pointing out that a Flagbox could be use. --SirensT RR 16:41, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Because even if the template didn't exist there would still be controversy. There are those who would create a fuss over people using that method anyway. –Xoid S•T•FU! 16:44, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Yeah, but they can go to wiki hell. --SirensT RR 16:57, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Then use another of my templates, Template:Hell--Gage 17:01, 1 August 2006 (BST)
    Damn you. I was gonna tell Mia about that one! :D –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:03, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - This is an Urban Dead wiki. Not a politics wiki. Keep that bullshit debate the fuck out of here. --Mookiemookie 21:03, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - As per Mookiemookie. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 21:08, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Speedy Delete - Criteria 1. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 22:44, 2 August 2006 (BST)
    Lol, what? --SirensT RR 23:03, 2 August 2006 (BST)
    I am pretty sure that we can all agree that a template is, by definition, content. Vote struck--Gage 23:19, 2 August 2006 (BST)
    It's only a few lines and its completely unrelated to the game. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 04:59, 3 August 2006 (BST)
    Gage, you may not strike out people's votes, that is vandalism.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 08:51, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - As fashionable as America Bashing may be in some circles, it's still not cool. Lets be nice people. And the double standerd anoys me quite a bit as well. --Paradox244 03:43, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I don't care much what's cool, or how other countries have been previously treated. Kind of in poor taste, but people can say what they please. --Rgon 06:26, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I'm American. I dig America. You know why? America is so much the freedom. Sure it has its problems, but its still probably better than Grim's Australia! Lololjk, but seriously, I'd kind of be shitting on everything our favorite country stands up for to not let people say what they feel. Oh, but on the way this wiki's run, delete it, those awesome whale templates got deleted.god damn there's more than enough kids shrieking how they are cool because they haet amerikkka already. Weak. -That's Why I did your Wife 06:53, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I don't see this as being a problem--Xp666 14:21, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - Two reasons: First of all, if someone puts that on his user page, he's probably an idiot. Anything with which idiots label themselves as such is fine by me. Second- and I love me some Nietzsche- the amount of slander one can take before being moved to action is a measure of one's strength. That is, if someone steals $5 from me and I want to get even, I've got to take $5 worth of pain from him. If I were rich, the $5 debt wouldn't make any difference; I'd be wealthy enough to swallow it without any loss and wouldn't want to get even with him because the debt wouldn't matter. Similarly, a person's moral strength is measured in terms of what he can lose. A morally weak person is vindictive and a morally strong person is distanced. When you see something like this template, becoming offended is just, but not giving a damn is the ideal. --Ron Burgundy 21:59, 3 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - As much as it hurts to agree with Sonny, (And believe me, it does) I'll have to vote delete.--Labine50 MHG|MalTel 06:35, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - Freedom of Speech. Ever hear of it? -- (GOD) 07:03, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - Freedom of Speech. I suggest all templates like " I am american, I am finnish, I am irish, I am..." be deleted. Johnny Rico 14:49, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Freedom of speech is fine, but this can only lead to similar templates, bringing a whole cloud over the wiki. How long before we get'UK Sucks' or 'Australia Sucks' or 'Canada Sucks', this list goes on and on.... --Atari Techno 22:32, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    Canada doesn't suck, but still I would vote keep for that too. This is not as much about just America than many of you seem to think. People are taking it all way too personally. --Niilomaan GRR! 23:00, 6 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - I don't care much what everyone else says, but I hate that Northamerican trait to call themselves "Americans" like if South and Central american people were born in Africa or something. And I could argue a month straight about that "Freedom of speech" speech, because I feel more free on my own country (that you "americans" probably see like prehistoric) than if I lived on yours. --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 23:14, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    So you'd be OK with it, but only if it said "USA Sucks" "not support USA"? Did I understand that correctly? --Niilomaan GRR! 23:22, 6 August 2006 (BST)
    If you knew me you wuold know that I'm one of these guys that promote extreme cordiality trought the Wiki, so that part is implicit on my vote =) --Matthew Fahrenheit YRC | T | W! 00:06, 7 August 2006 (BST)
    I don't have a problem with anyone from the Americas calling themselves American. I might get a tad confused as that isn't the common usage, but I would understand. And bully for you and your cordiality. --Darth Sensitive Talk W! 03:14, 7 August 2006 (BST)
Moderator: Deleted, by the slimest of margins. –Xoid S•T•FU! 15:47, 17 August 2006 (BST)

LZRF (lockettside zombie resistance force)

No information on it what so ever and it looks as the last edit was by its creator to remove all that and that was 3 days ago. Pillsy 11:26, 14 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Speedy Delete --Niilomaan GRR! 11:29, 14 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Speedy Delete Conndrakamod T CFT 12:10, 14 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Speedy Delete - criterion 1--Gage 14:35, 14 August 2006 (BST)
Moderator - Deleted as per Speedy Deletions. – Nubis NWO 15:28, 14 August 2006 (BST)

No content and a user page

some may be stufbs but I will leave that up to you. (please let me know if i am doing this wrong. should i mark them as stubs?>) last one is a user page. -- John Teabags 05:27, 28 July 2006 (BST)

Can you please check the speedy deletion criteria, and if a page meets them, place the request on the speedy deleteions page instead. –Xoid S•T•FU! 05:31, 28 July 2006 (BST)
sorry... :( John Teabags 05:40, 28 July 2006 (BST)
Don't just sit there. Check the criteria out. If any of this stuff meets it, then vote for it to be speedily deleted. If it doesn't meet any of the criteria, then vote either Keep or Delete, depending on what you think is best. Join in the democratic process and let your voice be heard. –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:44, 28 July 2006 (BST)
  • Speedy Delete - Criterion 1 for all of them, except the last, which is Criterion 11. –Xoid S•T•FU! 05:31, 28 July 2006 (BST)
  • Speedy Delete - Crit 1 --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 01:39, 1 August 2006 (BST)
Moderator: Deleted. –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:35, 13 August 2006 (BST)

Shodown Sluts

I found this on the random page button. It's an old group I guess. It's more like just one big picture. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS 16:39, 7 August 2006 (BST)

  1. Delete - Nice page. Useless. --Niilomaan GRR! 16:48, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  2. Delete - Conndrakamod TCFT 17:08, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  3. Delete –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:18, 7 August 2006 (BST)
  4. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 08:50, 8 August 2006 (BST)
  5. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Gage 21:51, 9 August 2006 (BST)
  6. Speedy Delete - Criterion 1. --Technerd CFT 22:03, 9 August 2006 (BST)
    somebody clear this off this page!--Gage 11:49, 10 August 2006 (BST)
Moderator: Deleted. –Xoid S•T•FU! 13:28, 10 August 2006 (BST)

Dunell Military Zone

Really, what is this page for? It's not like the DHPD doesn't note their presence on each suburb's individual page.

  • Delete –Xoid S•T•FU! 23:32, 18 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - It's all messed up. Sonny Corleone WTF 23:33, 18 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - What Sonny said. -- Krazy Monkey W! 23:38, 18 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 02:59, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Note - could we please put the Delete Template on pages that we are considering to delete? thanks. --Karlsbad 03:10, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    • What? and put some actual effort in? Sheesh. –Xoid S•T•FU! 04:45, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep The DHPD comand staff use it. In adition we occasionaly look at it wistfuly remembering what was and will be again. Conndrakamod T 05:50, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    Re - Then why not fix it up? It's a mess. Sonny Corleone WTF 05:53, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I've found it useful in the past and continue to. Though he does have a point, it could use a little maintenance. But that is understandable being that we are focused on actually restoring the DMZ at this time. --Marty Banks 00:50, 21 July 2006 (EST)
    What is useful on it? It's a huge ass list of groups and a map. Sonny Corleone WTF 05:57, 21 July 2006 (BST)
    Keep I agree with Sonny Corleone- if we're not going to do anything about it we should delete it. Otherwise, I think we should keep it but update it! After all, some of these groups aren't there anymore! I say keep, link it on the wiki and use it for alliance announcements and get the ball rollin' again!
    • Learn to sign. –Xoid S•T•FU! 07:10, 21 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I agree with Conndraka. EDogg
  • Keep - This page is actually useful, it should just be updated a little more often. Cisisero
Delete-Nevermind no actual point to it.... Cisisero
  • Keep - I will try to set up a DHPD wiki team to clean up and maintain our pages. DHPD-SDC FmrPFCBob 17:51, 21 July 2006 (BST)
delete - Darth advised it's a dupe DHPD-SDC FmrPFCBob 15:19, 26 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - Is there something else really exciting we could have instead? If DHPD wants it, why not. --Major Grippy 17:54, 21 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep OK, some cleaning up would be in order but it's useful information and it's a cool RPG concept.
  • Keep Rockphed 20:36, 21 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep Victor McDade 23:15, 21 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep As per Conndraka Paradox244 03:08, 25 July 2006 (BST)--
Did you not read the part where I showed that it is a duplicate? Sonny Corleone WTF 03:11, 25 July 2006 (BST)

Wait just a second! You do not need this page because there is one existing already. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Category:Dunell_Hills_Military_Zone Sonny Corleone WTF 01:55, 22 July 2006 (BST)

  • Delete Not needed --Technerd 05:18, 25 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete Kill it - just give us a chance to move the needed stuff to the category page. I'll see about getting the DHPD votes changed. --Darth Sensitive talk • W! 15:34, 25 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I reckon this is historical. --Ron Burgundy 22:59, 27 July 2006 (BST)
    How is it Historical if it's a duplicate of another page? In fact this one has less info than the other. Sonny Corleone WTF RRF ASS CoL 05:43, 28 July 2006 (BST)
    It seems Burgundy often votes without thinking. –Xoid S•T•FU! 05:47, 28 July 2006 (BST)
    It's historical in the same sense Conndraka was using. --Ron Burgundy 19:15, 30 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - What Sonny said. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 01:32, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - I just like disagreeing with Sonny.--Labine50 MHG|MalTel 06:24, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Is it possible to vote for deleting users? --Niilomaan 14:19, 5 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - It's a duplicate of a more useful category function. --Calzion Smith 15:26, 8 August 2006 (BST)


Moderator: Deleted. –Xoid S•T•FU! 15:55, 8 August 2006 (BST)
Moderator: Undeleted as deleting the page violated policy and procedure. 9 delete 9 keep. regardles of duplicate status keeps equal or excede deleets.Conndrakamod TCFT 01:41, 11 August 2006 (BST)
The given justification behind a vote does not allow you to change it from a Delete to a Keep. There are eleven Deletes and 9 keeps. Simply because you do not agree with why the two 'spare' delete votes are there does not allow you to pretend they didn't exist and restore the page without going through proper protocol. Misconduct forthcoming. – Nubis NWO 01:45, 11 August 2006 (BST)
Where do you Get 11? 9 Votes for 9 Votes Delete. Conndrakamod TCFT 09:25, 11 August 2006 (BST)

Wyke Hills Wastelands

Wyke Hills Wastelands seems to be an exact duplicate of Wyke_Hills_Wasteland. One or the other could be deleted. --Tethran 23:44, 25 July 2006 (BST)

  • Speedy Delete - the singular one, because that implies that there is only one--Gage 03:19, 26 July 2006 (BST)
    Keep - the plural one --Gage 03:21, 26 July 2006 (BST)
  • Speedy Delete - Agree with Gage on this one.--Canuhearmenow 03:22, 26 July 2006 (BST)
  • Fix the Location Style Guide so that it should be plural - then delete the singular. --Darth Sensitive talk • W! 03:57, 26 July 2006 (BST)
  • Speedy Delete - singular As per Style Guide. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 01:37, 1 August 2006 (BST)


Moderator: Kept. Why? The LSG has changed. Putting the singular up for speedy. –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:45, 7 August 2006 (BST)

Clear Amazing's User page

It is incredibly offensive. We should at least clear the offending parts, and also put why he was banned. AllStarZ 05:51, 18 July 2006 (BST)

  • Comment - Like, What… the… fuck? Didn't we already deal with this, or are you complaining about something else on his user page? –Xoid S•T•FU! 06:29, 18 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Delete for great justice. Sonny Corleone WTF 06:30, 18 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - Currently protected and would have to go through a non-protection case (of which the system doesn't exist right now) and you furthermore have to cite what you want deleted before I'd even consider it. --Karlsbad 06:30, 18 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - It's still protected and he is still active in the game. --Zod Rhombus 06:40, 18 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - What the fuck? –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 06:41, 18 July 2006 (BST)
    • Re: I meant the "bike" part. AllStarZ 19:18, 30 July 2006 (BST)
      • Re: The bike part is non-offensive, unless you hate bikes. Although I really don't like 'em (I ain't joking about this, I hate bikes) it is not my place to say he can't have a weird little story about them on his user page, nor is it yours. –Xoid S•T•FU! 03:31, 31 July 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - What don't you hate, Xoid? :P Cyberbob  Talk  08:05, 4 August 2006 (BST)
  • Keep - Although I find it offensive aswell, I like to go out of my way to disagree with sonny.--Labine50 MHG|MalTel 06:28, 5 August 2006 (BST)
Moderator: Kept. As per common sense. –Xoid S•T•FU! 17:48, 7 August 2006 (BST)

5th Of November Battle, Major Urban Dead Battles, and Fall of the DARIS Empire

These pages aren't even accurate and this dipshit keeps making them. Sonny Corleone WTF 20:01, 19 July 2006 (BST)

  • Delete - Ow ow ow! Kill it please! -- Tirion529 20:03, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Worthless. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:09, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    Can he get banned for making such worthless shit? Sonny Corleone WTF 20:19, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    I don't think so, because I can't figure out what rule he'd be violating. –Bob Hammero Mod•B'crat•T•A 20:22, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    He did vandalize Xyu page two months ago that went unreported until now. He's also making worthless pages when told to stop. Sonny Corleone WTF 20:24, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    We could probably do it if there's a petition to do it. Give me 10 trustworthy users who want it done and i'd be prepared to warn or ban him. Any less and i'm not safe in the fact that it is the wishes of the community.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:26, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    I don't mind joke battles but claiming things as fact, when they clearly aren't is stupid and annoying. Here's the petition Ban Reptileus. Sonny Corleone WTF 20:37, 19 July 2006 (BST)
    Ok, the moment I believe that it has sufficient votes to the extent that it is the will of the community then I will ban him.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:53, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - I might write up a policy against this crap.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 20:30, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - It did make me laugh with the inaccurices portrayed in it but propraganda does not need to be portrayed as historical fact. --Technerd 21:15, 19 July 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Worthless. --Max Grivas JG,T,P! 01:33, 1 August 2006 (BST)
  • Delete - Quite worthless. --Paradox244 03:44, 3 August 2006 (BST)
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