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This page is for the reporting of vandalism within the Urban Dead wiki, as defined by vandalism policy. On this wiki, the punishment for Vandalism is temporary banning, but due to security concerns, the ability to mete out this punishment is restricted to System Operators. As such, regular users will need to lodge a report for a Vandal to be banned from the wiki. For consistency and accountability, System Operators are requested to note on this board their actions in dealing with Vandals.

Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting

In dealing with Vandalism, time is often of the essence. As such, we ask that all users include the following information in a Vandalism report:

• A link to the pages in question.

Preferably bolded for visibility. If the Vandalism is occurring over a sufficiently large number of pages, instead include a time range of the vandalism attempt, or alternatively, a link to the first vandalised page. This allows us to quickly find the damage so we can quickly assess the situation.

• The user name of the Vandal.

This allows us to more easily identify the culprit, and to check details.

• A signed datestamp.

For accountability purposes, we ask that you record in your request your user name and the time you lodged the report.

• Please report at the top.

There's conflict with where to post and a lot of the reports are missed. If it's placed at the top of the page it's probably going to be seen and dealt with.

If you see Vandalism in progress, don't wait for System Operators to deal with it, as there may be no System Operator online at the time. Lodge the report, then start reverting pages back to their original form. This can be done by going to the "History" tab at the top of the page, and finding the last edit before the Vandal's attack. When a System Operator is available, they'll assess the situation, and if the report is legitimate, we will take steps to either warn the vandal, or ban them if they are on their second warning.

If the page is long, you can add new reports by editing the top report and placing your new report above its header in the edit screen.

Before Submitting a Report

• This page, Vandal Banning, deals with bad-faith breaches of official policy.
• Interpersonal complaints are better sorted out at UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration.
• As much as is practical, assume good faith and try to iron out problems with other users one to one, only using this page as a last resort.
• Avoid submitting reports which are petty.

Vandalism Report Space

Administration Notice Talk with the user before reporting or accusing someone of vandalism for small edits. In most cases it's simply a case of a new user that doesn't know how this wiki works. Sometimes assuming good faith and speaking with others can avoid a lot of drama, and can even help newbies feel part of this community. Administration Notice If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment. Administration Notice Warned users can remove one entry of their warning history every one month and 250 edits after their last warning. Remember to ask a sysop to remove them in due time. You are as responsible for keeping track of your history as the sysops are; In case of a sysop wrongly punishing you due to an outdated history, he might not be punished for his actions.

January 2009

User:MisterGame

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	Page Deleted

MisterGame (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Deletion workaround for creating this page. It was already decided by the community that this crap -- which is personal and libellous -- was shamefully inappropriate for our wiki and deleted. And here it is again..... Please see this deletion request for more information. --WanYao 09:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

On the same page you link to here, it was decided that it was NOT a deletion workaround. It was deleted by request of the page owners before the community deletion was decided.--SirArgo ^Talk 09:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and as you can see in the deletion report, it has already been commented on by other sysops. Its in the group subpage now aswell.--Thadeous Oakley 10:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Also WanYao should take note that it is not personal as Haliman111 is a FICTIONAL character and it is not a report against the individual behind the character even though it is about traits this person may have.--President Jackson 11:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I submitted this report before the speedy deletion. As for Jackson's comment, I don't know what the hell you're talking about... I think you people all need help. --WanYao 15:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I think he is trying to say that the Haliman in the chat log is made up and is either not actually a real conversation with him or that the fact that "Haliman111" is his screen name (and thus fake) is not like saying John Smith of Pawtucket, Kansas. (so not an invasion of a real person's privacy) Or I could be wrong. Also, I have no problems with Karek's decision here.--– Nubis ^NWO 18:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Wan is correct. Just because the other guy made Umbrella Biohazard Containment Service/Umbrella/Zerg that does not make the original decision that the wiki was not the correct forum for this any less valid or the page's existence any more valid.
Please go to Undeletions like everyone else with a request and a reason why the wiki is now the right place for this. And please either ignore each other or work it out without using the wiki as a battle ground, we have enough of our own drama.
Not Vandalism, deleting the page, do it again without an undelete request and escalations may follow as necessary. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 13:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Why are you ignoring the opinion of community? It was decided it could stay, even by other syops.--Thadeous Oakley 14:49, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Because you misled them as to why it was removed from the wiki. The fact that you did it doesn't change that it got removed, it actually makes it more poignant. Frankly you re-creating the page was in bad faith and could easily be deemed vandalism, I'm being softer than I could be. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 15:13, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Whether the page fell under crit 6 was discussed there by people aswell. You keep saying it got deleted because of crit 6 but some (the majority) disagree with that. Your going to tell me your opinion weighs more then of the others?--Thadeous Oakley 15:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The page was already voted for deletion. Your leader is a wiki vandal. Deal with it. --WanYao 15:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

You can't read? It was decided that it did not fell under crit 6. You have the right to disagree, but unless your some sort of super-elite-bureaucrat the majority makes the decision.--Thadeous Oakley 15:35, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, buddy, but it's YOU who can't read: "Deleted under Crit 6. -Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 14:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)". And one more time: the community already voted to delete this garbage.... right here. --WanYao 18:01, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I do not want this "voluntary deletion" (done under the auspices of community rejection, i.e. a successful deletion vote in progress) to be used as a loophole of they put the page up again. This is the second time we've had to ask for it to be deleted. I do not want there to be a third. --WanYao 15:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Meh, it looks like the meatpuppets were winning the day. Whatever... But did we or did we not vote to have this same content deleted some time ago, or am I hallucinating? --WanYao 15:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

We did... Here is the vote. So I'm not quite sure how recreating the page isn't vandalism.... --WanYao 15:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Because recreations get a polite warning first time, repeated recreations are vandalism -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 22:21 17 January 2009 (BST)

User:Hagnat

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	None

Hagnat (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Harassment of a user. The fact none of you like said user shouldn't influence your opinion. Hagnat knows better and this is clear cut harassment. Yes the rules are long and complex and i doubt it's possible to post and follow them all however Iscariot's right to restrict people from editing within his user space should be respected. Hagnat did this to start a fight basically, poor form from a longstanding member of the community who usually tries to avoid such things. --xoxo 00:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - At the very least I was attempting to make a point, may have been a bit more of a sweary, pissed off sounding point that I intended, but a point nonetheless. Posting purely to ask him if he likes mudkips and then to double check you'd broken all the rules was a bit far. -- Cheese 01:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

meh... whattheheck... at least ima not the user with the stick up his ass, right izzy ? --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 01:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Not vandalism - the precedent being the dozens of times that J3D and the rest of the finis baiting crowd left similar comments on his talk page after it was clear that they weren't welcome and their posts automatically deleted. Iscariot's "rules" for his talk page have no validity here, unless they are enforce via an arbitration case against specific users. So while this edit could justify such an arbies case being brought against Hagnat, it doesn't make his post automatically vandalism -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 08:05 17 January 2009 (BST)

None of us were sysops, nor were we established or learned wiki users.--CyberRead240 08:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

You did it for months on end... if you weren't "established or learned wiki users" in that time, well...

None of which, though, changes the fact that random "rules" that a user makes up, for their own talk page, do not have any jurisdiction here. What's next? Using the + button on Iscariots talk page will get you an official warning here? -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:14 17 January 2009 (BST)

Oh I'm not condoning his bullshit. I agree with you that you can type whatever you want on someones talk page, as long as they have every right to remove it. Iscariots a dick and his rule of no Sysops is only to piss people off (and by the sounds of it, it works). All I was saying was, Hagnats a sysop, and has been for a loooooooong time. The only reason any of us came on the wiki was for finis, until ALiM popped up. Just clarifying that difference, really.--CyberRead240 14:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Not Vandalism. For it to be harassment you have to show a clear pattern of behavior. This is not a pattern nor is it harassment. Cheese, why are you giving validity to Iscariot's rules on his page? His rules only mean that he can delete whatever comments he doesn't like. It doesn't mean that commenting at all is vandalism. That is why people have a User page and a Talk page. --– Nubis ^NWO 13:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Not vandalism Simply Contacting a user even if questionable statements cannot be Vandalism. Caveat: It would be one thing if the behavior was incessant or if the contact was intentionally insulting or demeaning. As the Mudkips request is neither and the "broken rule" comment is merely "iffy”, it cannot be Vandalism...yet. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 14:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Norm

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Permanently Banned

Norm (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

The spammer is back. See Fat Albert, santa etc.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Links, pls? --Pestolence^(talk) 02:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The page wipe obscures the rest, but check my block log (known spammer) and see Santa, check his contributions. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

And check Kevin's talk page and Cheese's talk page. He's acting like Norm from Cheers. I would post the links if I weren't so lazy.--SirArgo ^Talk 02:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

He's been temp-banned while it all gets sorted out. Feel free to revert in cases where it's clear it's a spammer in the future. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 02:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Perma issued. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 03:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Wiki Martyr

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	main warned

Wiki Martyr (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Pretty obvious sockpuppet aimed at trolling Iscariot. --Cyberbob 06:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

IP check brings back Conndraka. --ZsL 06:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Uh oh. --Cyberbob 07:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - a sock puppet account created solely to troll another user. There is no good faith reason to create such an account, and while alt wiki accounts themselves arn't specifically barred, creating one simply to troll is the definition of bad faith. Account permbanned, and Conndraka warned -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:39 15 January 2009 (BST)

Umm exactly where did the account Troll anything? Other than a statement of not being involved in an Arby there is nothing said at all. I beleive this account was banned in error, as the account isn't prohibited and made no comments, nor took any actions that could honestly be considered Trolling. I therefore appeal this ruling to the entire sysop staff and ask that the account be unbanned and the warning struck until such time that said account commits some action that directly or indirectly either vandalizes this wiki or in fact attacks another user. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 13:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Now who's playing the martyr? -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:38 15 January 2009 (BST)

It was a sock puppet intended to troll Iscariot. That is clearly vandalism, as per numerous precedents -- including one where someone did the same thing to me. Morever, IMO such sockpuppeteering by a sysop is totally Misconductable...... --WanYao 17:04, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Trolling is not misconductable until it becomes bullying.--– Nubis ^NWO 17:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Exactly where is the trolling? No Comment was made that in any way was derisive, demeaning or insulting towards another user. By the way...Sockpupets are not prohibited unless they are used to vote, vandalize, or violate the wiki community standard. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 18:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say you were trolling. I actually think this is Not Vandalism however it isn't enough to overturn the verdict. --– Nubis ^NWO 13:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - As above. -- Cheese 17:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

1)Not Vandalism, the account hasn't performed vandalism yet but should be considered on very short noticed. 2)Who it is is relevant in the case as it's a sysop and they will be prohibited from ruling on this case. 3) I'm un-permabanning the account as we can not permanently ban the account legitimately at this point., this is not User:Kevin, it's User:Faerie Queen, which, as you'll no doubt notice, isn't banned because vandalism on the account was ceased after a warning. Yes Conndraka shouldn't have made the account, no I'm not saying that actually using it to troll wouldn't be vandalism, however we do not rule preemptively with the assumption of what someone is going to do. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 01:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait, can you really unpermaban it after two other sysops voted in favor of vandalism?--SirArgo ^Talk 01:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

He can't, but there is only one other ruling I see, so yes, he can. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

No. Both Cheese and Boxy voted Vandalism.--SirArgo ^Talk 01:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see now, thanks. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem.--SirArgo ^Talk 01:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I did it anyway and if they push the issue I will be forced to file a misconduct case for them permabanning an account illegitimately. Aside from the fact that my contesting the ruling means it's still an active case there's that there is no way under the rules for them to preemptively ban an account unless it exists for impersonation. This one doesn't.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 01:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Ahem... --Pestolence^(talk) 01:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, that name is offensive. Wiki Martyr is not. --– Nubis ^NWO 13:37, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

To expand somewhat on that, accounts created that have names that are the same as, or even similar to, the name or chosen handle of a wiki user have always been perma'ed before, vandalism or not. Examples: HAHA DISREGARD THAT etc., 8oxy, Kevin, and many others that I CBA'ed to look up right now. --Pestolence^(talk) 01:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

It's not his handle, never was. It's just something he's been adding to arbitration cases. His handle is St. Iscariot.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 02:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

It's how he's been referring to himself for at least a few days before this case -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:04 16 January 2009 (BST)

He calls himself that way in his user page, yet his sig says otherwise. I agree with karek that this is a faerie queen case, but i agree that this account serves no purpose but harassment, and that is vandalism in the new wiki book --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 03:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

You can't seriously think him breaking the rules of the wiki(there's a policy against that thing) and providing himself with a title on his user page count as impersonation can you? He does not use the name wiki martyr, no one here thought it was Iscariot, there was no intent or attempt to impersonate and claiming otherwise is twisting the reality of the case in an attempt to justify a ban of the account. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 03:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

But everyone knew exactly who was being imped, because he had named himself that in the same case that this sock puppet posted to. The account was created with only one purpose, to hassle Iscariot about his choice of arbies titles on an the admin page, just like the HAHA sock that was banned because its only purpose was imping bob -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:33 16 January 2009 (BST)

Everyone knew who was implied by Faerie Queen too boxy. It wasn't a case of impersonation, the intent wasn't to impersonate and you just admitted as much. HAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS existed only to impersonate, the names were the same down to one small dumb typo. This is a case of harassment not impersonation and you know it, you just said it there even. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 03:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

And creating an account solely for the purpose of harassment is bad faith vandalism... alternate accounts are not banned, but when they are created solely for bad faith purposes, such as harassment, they are banned. Quite frankly, Faerie Queen should have been binned too. It was a sock puppet used for vandalism, and was warned for it too -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 04:02 16 January 2009 (BST)

No one is calling it impersonation. It's obviously not, duh. It's a trolling account with a name based on that of another user and with the clear intention to harass them. As others have said, that sort of thing is and always has been vandalism. --WanYao 04:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The account was not used for vandalism unless making it to make a wisecrack about Iscariot adding his fake title to the arbitration case is now harassment. It's not an account that exists solely for vandalism, it's an account you want to prevent from having any chance of performing vandalism it hasn't performed. The actions of Faerie Queen the account since the case just make that illegitimacy point that much more. It was a dumb thing to do it was not vandalism unless creating sock puppet accounts is now vandalism and should have been handled with a warning to Conn that using it in the manner of the Faerie Queen edits would be considered vandalism. That's not what you've done, and when you did do it that's not why you banned the account because that can't justify banning the account. You banned the account because you feel there is no possible legitimate purpose, you're wrong and that's assuming bad faith and when you did it you broke the wiki's rules limiting when an account can be banned. Wiki Martyr has not performed three vandalism edits, it didn't even perform one, you banned it because it's a reference to Iscariot referring to himself as a wiki martyr and that's about as loose of a reason for any of this as can be provided.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 04:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

How does it follow that someone ripping of Bobs tagline but making no vandalism edit is immediatly banned as a vandal and the same for the 8oxy account while this obvious attack on another users chosen nickname is not? Surely it can't be anything to do with who is guilty in each case can it?--Honestmistake 00:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Considering it's Conndraka and I am the one defending the account; No, it doesn't. Those are cases of impersonation, please read the rest of the comments before commenting as that difference has been pointed out quite a few times now. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 02:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

For fuck sake, it's NOT impersonation in the normal sense. But wiki precedent is clear: trolling accounts which imitate another user's handle are considered vandalism. Usually you're pretty good with this stuff, knowing and following precent, karek... Why the difference this time around? --WanYao 08:55, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, it doesn't matter what edits the account made... And it's a confirmed suck puppet... Where is the ambiguity?? There is none: except the smoke screen being created to protect conndraka... --WanYao 08:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Wan, I'm the only one following precedent. The precedent is User:Faerie Queen. Even then there's the issue that it's not impersonation in any sense and the accounts existence is not in and of itself vandalism(which is what allows us to instantly ban such accounts). I'm being consistent in the extreme both with my actions in the past and the precedent provided to us for cases of this nature. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 13:49, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

If the faerie queen case is your only precedent, it's a pretty weak one, given that Gage and Bob both categorically refused to reveal who the sock puppeteer was at the time (2 years ago), and as has been shown by at least one more recent case, that attitude has changed, as has the fact that users teaming up on others with sock accounts is seen as bad faith, even if they don't commit other forms of vandalism. It's a bad precedent to set, to allow people to create sock accounts to poke people, that they are having disagreements with, anonymously -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 14:14 17 January 2009 (BST)

I'm sorry but you astound me Boxy. That case is ridiculous as support to your argument, where is User:Wiki Martyr being used to delude the community into believing more people support an opinion than really do? It's not because that would be asinine and legitimate grounds to ban the account. It's bad precedent to set that you can ban any alt you want simply because you don't like the look of it. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 15:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

It might be the mature thing to do if Conn just banned this account.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:43, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Certainly.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 02:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

If an alt account is solely created to stir another user, like this one was, then yes absolutely -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 22:11 17 January 2009 (BST)

If it doesn't happen, I'm going to reinstate the sock puppet ban myself (unless the sysop vote changes) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 14:14 17 January 2009 (BST)

If you do that you'll force my hand, the vote is irrelevant, the policy is exceedingly clear on this matter. We can not ban the account without three edits of vandalism or the account's existence itself being vandalism. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 15:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

This account isn't a "User". The User is Conndraka and Wiki Martyr is his sock account, that does not get full "User" rights. If it's used in good faith to improve the wiki, it is ignored, but given that this one was created solely to play with Iscariot, who Conndraka has been in conflict with on arbies for a while now, it is not a good faith use of alt accounts -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 22:11 17 January 2009 (BST)

User:Sgt Raiden

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	Informal message on talk page

Sgt Raiden (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Impersonation of a group and a user under the same name.

This user has shown through past contributions to pages and danger reports that he is aware of how to sign correctly. His report is nothing but an attempt to besmirch a group and user due to actions he disagrees with, namely moving to a suburb he is not in.

This user has previously declared Mall Tour targets when not in a position to do so and has therefore runout of second chance, reverting his shit is something I'm tired of. I want this warning and reverting. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:44, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Proper link --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, there's something wrong with the links I'm getting from other people, because this is the second time this has happened. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 03:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I clicked on it right after you posted this request and it sent me to the right history comparison...--SirArgo ^Talk 03:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

The url is wrong it was diff=0 instead of diff=1362921. It defaults to the most recent, I suppose. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 03:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Not vandalism - new users often forget to change the signature part of those templates because it's a separate variable. Only a few days ago this guy tried to make a report on an image talk page, so I'll have a talk to him on his talk page about signing (and keeping reports NPOV) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 04:25 15 January 2009 (BST)

The man has a history of perfect signing and a history of announcing false targets for the Mall Tour! Do I not even get my sysop revision? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I can only find two cases of him signing a template like this (one where the sig is a separate variable) before, and a couple of other cases where he didn't update the sig part when updating his own signed comments days later (ie not updating the timestamp). As to him being annoying, that's a matter for arbies -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 04:46 15 January 2009 (BST)

I would like to direct Iscariot attention to the blue box in the top of this page. Talk with users before reporting them. Most of the times a situation can be solved with a simple and polite request in the talk page. When newbies are involved, failing to follow this advice can even cause them to leave the game --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 18:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Iscariot

Iscariot (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	None Required

This editWhere Iscariot is deleting edits made by others in bad faith simply to agitiate and agrivate the sysops and in the process deleting edits by other legitimate users i.e. Liberty. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 05:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you mean agitate and aggravate, also you need a dictionary methinks. I was removing the disputed content as per the precedent of arbitration. Although Liberty's edit may be good faith (if it is proven that the account is not an alt of a certain user) the precedent still stands that the disputed content is removed for the duration of an arbitration case. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 05:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Wherever you're getting the idea that Liberty is a alt account is completely unfounded and, well, wrong. A few checkuser checks show this to not be the case. -- Cheese 11:14, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

#4. Not Vandalism although his comment here is borderline when considering his past warnings.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 05:46, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Very Well, but I don't see it as petty as the edit in question ties directly to the operation of a fairly well trodden administration page. Conndraka^{mod TAZM CFT} 05:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Not Vandalism - Agreement with Karek. -- Cheese 11:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Enough with the hunting of the witch plz.--xoxo 12:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Enough with the shitting up of the admin pages plz. --Cyberbob 12:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Irony lol xoxo 12:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Both of you. Last warning. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 12:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Conndraka

Conndraka (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	None Required

This edit, restoring the contentious edit that is required to be reverted for the duration of the arbitration case as is the precedent. His reversion of Hagnat's edit is clearly provocative given his history of edits in relation to mine. He is well aware of the arbitration process and his precedent and has intentionally edited against this consensus driven statute. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean the one before it. Liberty 04:54, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

#4. Just because you know trying to misconduct or Vandal report Hagnat for that would fall on it's face doesn't magically give arbitration powers beyond it's limits. Arbitration can not overrule real administration pages, more to the point you are submitting a case based on pettiness to try and get your way there and then trying to use that to justify this. Not happening, Not Vandalism. --Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 05:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Not Vandalism - As Karek. -- Cheese 11:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Spammers

Verdict	Adbots
Action taken	Gorn

Ambieninfo‎ (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Ativaninfo‎ (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Tramadolinfo‎ (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Levitrainfo‎ (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Cialisinfo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Viagrainfo‎ (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Xanaxinfo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Valiuminfo (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

And more, hit RC.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Added the rest since they stopped. I think that's all. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Permas The lot of them. Im assuming we delete the spam pages as well? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Yet don't record vandal data. Hmm. Well if there not coming back. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Colonel Krauser

Colonel Krauser (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	Informal message on talk page

For this vandalizing edit. More Umbrella vandalism? Can we just ban them all off of the wiki? --Haliman - Talk 21:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Not Vandalism. You bait a hook, a fish is going to bite. -- Cheese 21:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Extraneous Discussion moved to talk page -- Cheese 21:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - they should all know not to edit that page by now -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 01:21 12 January 2009 (BST)

I've defaulted this to not vandalism since nobody else ruled. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:43, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

User:A Big F'ing Dog

A Big F'ing Dog (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	None Required

I'm new to this reporting thing, so forgive me if i'm making to big a deal of nothing. But I do think that this constitutes vandalism at least needing an official warning or whatever. Deleting other users edits is considered vandalism, correct? - tylerisfat 08:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Not vandalism - he removed his own suggestion from the Developing Suggestions page -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:57 11 January 2009 (BST)

Not Vandalism. As above. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Word. Thanks for the quick response. - tylerisfat 05:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Iscariot

Iscariot (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

This is shitting up admin pages. He won't accept that someone might know more than him even though he knows that that person had access to privileged information regarding the exact thing he's arguing about, he's trying to game the system in an attempt to back up his belief of a bias by intentionally misrepresenting the facts and then arguing ad nauseum when someone knows better. He was warned about this behavior on the same page. I'm requesting another sysop rule on this issue.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 04:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Involved -> --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 04:55, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Not really. You can actually back up my point that no RRF member that knows anything would believe what he is saying.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 05:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Continuing despite a soft warning sounds vandalish to me? Liberty 12:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Discussion continued on talk page -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:41 11 January 2009 (BST)

Vandalism. Tending sysop said it wasn't going to be moved by him. No need to continue that discussion and doing so is clearly bad faith trolling. Why not go cry to another sysop to get your way like you did with the templates? Or are you running out of sysops that will give in to you? --– Nubis ^NWO 13:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - As Nubis. You've already been warned for shitting up admin pages, Iscariot. Please take the hint with this second one. -- Cheese 14:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

T's going pretty fast now. How many warnings until permaban vote?--Thadeous Oakley 18:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You do realize that you are doing the same thing iscariot is being warned for ? Do not shit on admin pages. There is no need to kick a dead horse in the main page. If you want to, do it in the talk page. This is your last warning, thadeous. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 21:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Jackson

Jackson (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

For this edit to MY group's sub page. --Haliman - Talk 22:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

That's an open page, both our groups are on that page if I am not mistaken? I didn't know that the UBCS had exclusive control over it.-Jackson.

We have control on it seeing as it is in our namespace.--Haliman - Talk 22:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

This is bullshit! I demand that my name be removed! I do know better but if its just the UBCS page then they should remove our Umbrella name from it! If they want to lie about OUR war then they can, but I thought this page was open to both groups!-Jackson

Gimme the damn info, and I'll put it in, your highness.--Haliman - Talk 22:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - You should know better and we've been over this before. The page belongs to UBCS and they can put whatever they want on it. Take it to arbitration if you don't like it. -- Cheese 22:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

User:ObiFireFighter

ObiFireFighter (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	Warning retracted

Impersonation. Similar to the J3D thing from last month. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - although he's not using the same name, he is going back and changing his sigs on messages that had already been replied to, to make the posts more insulting. Impersonation in that he is changing posts that have already been replied to in a bad faith manner -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 22:44 9 January 2009 (BST)

Not vandalism - but rather a reversion of this edit -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:29 15 January 2009 (BST)

User:Beau Dece

Beau Dece (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	None Required

Making several edits to a group page that is not theirs (particularly the last one). Another Umbrella vs UBCS thing. -- Cheese 16:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

• Sigh*. Not Vandalism, please?. He is a complete wiki newbie, and therefore unaware of any rules or regulations concerning group and community pages. I can assure that this is not a bad faith edit, he probably thought this as the real wikipedia, where anyone can edit anything. I'm sure he did not break the rules on purpose. If he were a vandal, the page would be either blanked or filled with nonsense. Not bad faith, so forgiveness?--Thadeous Oakley 21:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

MisterGame might not be a sysop (hint, hint, dont "rule" again), but i agree with him. Its just a wiki-newbie mistake. Not vandalism --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 21:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Oops, he did it again! Told him to stop on his talk page. --Janus ^talk 22:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

And I've expanded it a little. It looks like a confused newbie (as Thadeous said, it doesn't seem to be in bad faith.) Might want to un-bold that "Not Vandalism" too, Thadeous. Makes it look like a ruling. Linkthewindow  Talk  22:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Sorry, I had no intention to rule on anything. I will fix it, again sorry. -1 for bad impression.--Thadeous Oakley 22:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Iscariot

Iscariot (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

Shitting up admin pages, with free and unneeded attacks to members of the admin staff, in disguise of a good faith action for the community, even after being asked not to revert these comments. This behaviour can be seen in other administration pages, as most members of the community are aware of (no links needed, then). Unlike other users who work together with the admin staff to help mantain the wiki, iscariot constantly work against the admin staff. Asking for punishment on the grounds of his constant attitude towards the admin staff, not only because of these edits. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 13:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

We won't even go into the wikigate-ness of wanting a user punished "on the grounds of his constant attitude towards the admin staff", was the clause that everyone has to be soopa-nice and give cookies and fluffy puppies to sysops a part of the civility policy? Because I don't remember reading that one.

Let's determine these edits correctly then, since Hagnat would mislead all of us for his own gain given the chance.

One bright sunny day, with the birds gaily singing in the trees, Iscariot was walking through the formerly lush and fertile gardens that were the administration pages (recent caretakers have unfortunately be deficient, we need a new team of gardeners) when he noticed a travesty. Speedy deletions that had received a keep had not been moved over to the main deletions queue. "Surely not!", thought Iscariot, but it was true. Iscariot consulted his Ladybird Book of UD Wiki Procedure and noticed the rules at the top of the page: "A Speedy Deletion may be circumvented by a single vote of Keep under the request. If this occurs, the system operator shall move the Speedy Deletion request to the Deletion Request Queue, where the normal rules for Deletion of the page shall apply." Iscariot lamented that this community approved process had not been followed, he checked the history to discover the culprit of this heinous act, seeing the Golden Boy of the Sysop Team, he knew that the misconduct case would be brushed aside even though a clear breach of procedure had occurred. So valiantly, with good faith brimming from his pores, he scooped up the errant cases and deposited them in the deletions queue.

Iscariot looked around the queue and saw that it had become customary for users other than sysops to leave a short message explaining to the community why these case had been moved.Trusting fully in the will of the community, he left a message on each case, explaining the situation. Along comes the arch-villain of the piece, Hagnat, and removes these comments for the dastardly purpose of leaving the community befuddled by the reasons that these cases have spontaneously appeared. Not to worry reader, for our knight of shining truth and justice, Iscariot, reappeared and explained to the arch-villain why these were needed. Good deeds done for the day he returned to his castle, for some troll had deposited a turd on his immaculate lawn.

But, lo! The Iscariot-Signal appeared in the sky again. This time the arch-villain had tried to besmirch his name by removing his signatures. This would leave no indication that the fair knight had performed these brave and selfless acts. Again the noble crusader undid the beast's work, content that all was right in Wiki-lot again.

Thwarted as he was, the arch-villain pulled out his final dishonourable weapon, a kangaroo court (well not really, there are no kangaroos in Wiki-lot, perhaps a wallaby court or a koala court?), and here fair reader doest our story pause, a cliffhanger. The deeds of the dashing knight at the will of denizens of the underworld. Is this the end for our valiant hero? Tune in next time.

Can anyone guess how the objectiveness and impartiality is going to work in this case? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

TL;DR; - and quoting Nubis... thank you for your input --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 13:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your input. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh! A new active flame war! Cool, I'll watch *grabs popcorn*. Seriously though, what's up with Iscariot? I kinda get the feeling he isn't very popular.--Thadeous Oakley 15:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hagnat You beat me to the proverbial punch. I was going to post this after much consideration. I'm not sure which case we should discuss, but I seriously think this is a problem that needs to be solved. Sysops only are free to comment on the page I created under my User space. Other comments will be considered vandalism. --– Nubis ^NWO 16:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

If you are adding to the current case against me I demand that all of that is brought and posted here so it can be entered into the appropriate archive. Placing a vandalism case in a userspace, particularly when the user in question has deletion rights over the page without any oversight is a recipe for historical revisionism and alteration of the case after the ruling. You want that entered? Bring it here into the appropriate domain so the community can see it as I demonstrate the massive holes in your 'case'. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

If you have problems with a particular page you need to take that to Arbitration. But fair warning I will only accept a sysop as an arbitrator. TIA.--– Nubis ^NWO 13:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I have no problems with the page at all, in fact I'm making a copy for normal users to comment on, however in order for any case to be considered, it should be placed here in the correct system. This is so that in the future users will be able to look back on the case and see everything pertinent. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:55, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you one of those people who believe that decent popularity and getting along with an average amount of people isn't needed to work properly?--Thadeous Oakley 17:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Even though i appreciated your input, thadeous, i'd like you to follow the guidelines of this page and refrain from commenting on the case unless you are a sysop or the user being reported. This case will be grounds for lots of drama, there is no need for outside involviment here. You can still use this page's talk page, though --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 17:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

While that guideline you mention is probably been broken a million times in vandal history, I will try to behave myself. I see this is a sensitive case, so I will respect your nicely said words ;). *stays on the sidelines*.--Thadeous Oakley 18:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

He wants to get banned so he can accuse the entire sysop team of lolmiscontrabitration. Ignore him.--Thari ^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 17:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

if thats the case, i say give him what he wants... but unfortunelly i am the reporting user and can't give it to him :( --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 17:44, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah he's wrong, doesn't mean he should be punished for having no understanding of why rules exist anywhere or having enough foresight to see why they weren't moved. Especially since he doesn't have the ability to see how idiotic he's being.--Karek^maps?! 00:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Karek's link fixed. Linkthewindow  Talk  01:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

And fixed, coulda sworn I had it right.--Karek^maps?! 01:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is funny in that for almost every guideline and essay, there exists an equal and opposite guideline or essay. --Midianian^|T|DS|C:RCS| 10:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Big difference there. Karek's link is a policy in progress and your link is just an opinion essay. It is in the same category as this, this, and oh this.--– Nubis ^NWO 13:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, the difference is rather small. It's a policy proposal, not an actual accepted policy. You do realize that it (too) was an essay not long ago? --Midianian^|T|DS|C:RCS| 17:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

You seem to be missing the point. Btw, that was me ruling, or more specifically saying that it's not worth ruling on and should be dropped while not actually trying to validate bad behavior. If it needs saying; tentative Not Vandalism in his own demented way he was acting in good faith, ignorance isn't vandalism until it causes major problems.--Karek^maps?! 06:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Subsequent actions on his part have made it clear that he's purposely contorting the rules in bad faith, that requires me to change the ruling here to Vandalism.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 06:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

ignorance isn't vandalism until it causes major problems. - all the drama he unnecessarily creates IS a major problem. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 10:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

You also seem to be missing the point. Could you try reading it again, this time without assuming that I'm opposed to your very existence? --Midianian^|T|DS|C:RCS| 17:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

No hostility was intended in my comment. That whole thing was just about me saying that I need someone to show intent to game the system before ruling vandalism for him addressing what he seems to think are rules violations.--Judge Karke, self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All 12:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I hate to see what your definition of "major problems" is. But thank you for weighing in on the case.--– Nubis ^NWO 18:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Whst the fuck is wrong with you guys? Has Iscariot scared you all so shitless that you can't fucking decide on a VB case? Either rule on this fucking case or move Nubis' case over and start that, but don't just let this asshole get away with his fucking temper tantrums. You assholes, grow some balls and get rid of this shithead. -- #99 ^DCC 06:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea how I missed this case. =/ Anyway, I'm going to say my piece. Once upon a time (wasn't that long ago either) I personally found Iscariot to be a very useful contributor this community. Sure he went a little over the top here and there, but he made some very good points and what he had to say did contribute to what was going on. However, over the past few months this has changed dramatically. Instead of contributing to the community, Iscariot is doing nothing more than picking fights with the admin team, bulling other users and attempting to start flame wars over the simplest things. When he gets asked to stop, he cries foul and hides behind policy and precedent. He bans sysops from contacting him in a non-official way threatening a misconduct case if that happens (which I might add any have yet to materialise), every edit makes to an admin page attacks sysops for being stupid, lazy and nothing more than mindless idiots hiding behind their trusted user status. He brings up frivolous VB and Misconduct cases over the slightest thing, wasting both our time and the time of everyone else on the wiki having to read through them and then have them cluttering up the page.

As has been pointed out several times, we have no policy against being a dick. But we have a policy (several, actually) against vandalism. Vandalism is seen as a bad faith edit. Going by this case alone we have several bad faith attempts to stir up drama on the deletions page. This is (unless I'm very much mistaken) an Administration page. Checking the archives, we have several precedents for people receiving vandal escalations for shitting up admin pages with irrelevant and trollish comments. As a result, I'm going to take this precedent into account and, basing my decision entirely on this case, I'm going to rule Vandalism. -- Cheese 12:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism Don't shit up pages and make edits that you know are in bad faith. --– Nubis ^NWO 13:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

PS it says a deletion w/ a keep vote needs to be moved, but it doesn't say that we only have 5 seconds to comply, nor does it say that it can't remain "listed" on Speedy (perhaps to serve as an example or to tell users where the case has been moved to). It just says that we can't speedy delete the page after it gets a keep vote. If we wanted to keep archives of every case that was put on the speedy page (regardless of action taken on it or not) then we can.--– Nubis ^NWO 13:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, the pages were obviously safe from deletion by being moved to the served section. The only reason to move them over would be to vote them Delete (which would make moving them from SD pointless) or Keep (which we clearly were going to do anyway.) --– Nubis ^NWO 18:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Now the verdict has been taken, but aren't you forgetting warning him on his talk page for the above as is custom?--Thadeous Oakley 21:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I am waiting to see how he handles the expectation of a A/M case. Liberty 08:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

User:8oxy

8oxy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Sockpuppet
Action taken	Permaban

Possible attempt to impersonate Boxy. IP check reveals it originates from the same location as that of this guy. Same single contribution of posting on user page to (possibly) get the account noticed. I won't ban it (yet) just in case I'm wrong, unless another sysop wants to back me up on this one. -- Cheese 11:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Lulz. *in await of the Ce3se and A unhelpful little gnome.* --Thadeous Oakley 14:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I noticed this one, but my checkuser came back blank. how did you make the link? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 15:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Ran the IPs through an IP checker. Both came back to the same place in Australia. -- Cheese 15:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I was checking this user ip earlier this morning, it points to a proxy site in australia... i say perma as an obvious attempt to impersonate boxy --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 15:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I concur. Permabanned. Stop this, you are not funny.--Thari ^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 16:02, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Might as well ban the IP, surely? Also, the 2 Special crowd almost certainly had something to do with this as well but good luck getting proof. --Cyberbob 16:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

You should be a detective! If it's a proxy then i'm sure they will ban the IP. --xoxo 00:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

They should ban it anyway to prevent any more of these occurrences, proxy or no. I don't quite know why IP bans aren't standard for all permabans, to be honest. --Cyberbob 03:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Because some people who play UD may not have access to a computer at home, so they use it at the library, or at school. Also, some users that live together and run through the same IP address would have problems with that also. I think IP bans should happen if it's a recurring problem with the one IP, but with the whole community computers things in schools, universities and libraries etc it would be impossible.--CyberRead240 03:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

When banning a user, the mediawiki framework automatically bans any attempt to create an account with the same IP of the banned user. This IP ban only last for a few days, though, to avoid punishing shared computer users who had nothing to do with the case. Now, if you guys want to carry on this discussion, i suggest you to move it to the talk page, as this doesnt have any relevance - exclusive relevance - to this case --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 11:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

It should also be noted that it wasn't actually an identical ip, merely one from the same area so an ip ban would have no effect.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 21:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Rayols

Rayols (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Permaban

Circumventing a perma that was issued earlier by making this edit. Sure his 'friend' made the edits, that's why the first edit under that account to Rev's pages months ago was a vandalism edit. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, that's a completely understandable thing right there. Friends using each others PC's. Just like Scinfaxi and Jjames. *Snickers*-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 02:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Permaban This is is the same IP as the banned vandal below. Pro-tip: if you want to plead your buddies case don't do it from his computer.--– Nubis ^NWO 02:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Kerkel

Kerkel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Extended Ban

More editation of PK pages. Any more vandalism from him and it's a ban. -- Cheese 22:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Persistent fucking vandal. Can we have that perma now? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 22:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Already done. -- Cheese 22:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

A very polite request to get an account unbanned

In a semi-related note: Lol. -- Cheese 23:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

ROFLMAOPMP... ok, ok... i never saw a user going to this extent to get his account unbanned... i have to give credit to this guy... i ask for his perma to be lifted, and three warnings to be added to his account. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 00:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Meh. I'm not too bothered either way. It's not like we can't ban him again if he goes on a vandal spree. I'd say we've given him 2 warnings and count this as a (slightly extended) 24 hour ban since it would be his 3rd escalation. -- Cheese 12:35, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

thank you. I have unbanned the account. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 12:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Kerkel

Kerkel (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

Editing the group page he is not a member of. Two contributions, two acts of vandalism. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 21:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The other one is over a month old so I'll just count this one. Vandalism and warned. -- Cheese 21:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Hrrm, didn't even notice that until Boxy reverted it. Guess he's sore about dying, what a shame he's just put himself on my radar again... >:D Thanks for that. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 01:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Janus Abernathy

Janus Abernathy (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Not Vandalism
Action taken	None Required

For this edit, as mentioned below. Umbrella members are real class acts, eh? How many vandal reports in the last week from their members, hmmmmm? --WanYao 14:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

He was attempting to revert the vandalism from the case below but didn't do it right. Not Vandalism. -- Cheese 14:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Again, I fail at reverting vandalism ;) --Janus ^talk 14:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry...... **goes and stands in the corner** --WanYao 14:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, my summary was referring to that she didn't know how to use the undo and revert tools properly. So, yeah, I posted on her talk page. If anyone's wondering. Linkthewindow  Talk  15:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Extraneous Discussion to talk -- Cheese 18:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hallman111

Hallman111 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Permaban

Vandalised the UBCS Alpha page. Note that he is not Haliman111 (the UBCS leader.) Linkthewindow  Talk  14:16, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Got him. Permaban. IP address is the same as the one used by the Umbrellaemployee dude from earlier in the week. I've done an IP block to stop them using that one. -- Cheese 14:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

That was quick. There was another example here. on the main UBCS page. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, this needs some clarifying. Janus wasn't the vandal, Hallman was. I just compared between my edit and Janus's edit as she didn't revert properly, and the diff captured most of the vandalism. Linkthewindow  Talk  15:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Extraneous Discussion to talk -- Cheese 18:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Nemesis 645

Nemesis645 (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	Warning

Impersonated the MOB at the CoTR's talk page, and did the same to the CoTR on the MOB's talk page, in an attempt to get the groups to declare war on each other, it seems. There is nothing about him being member of ether group on his page (he seems rather survivor.) Linkthewindow  Talk  11:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism - Impersonation of two different groups is just stupid. Warned. -- Cheese 18:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Sexylegsread

Sexylegsread (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)

Verdict	Vandalism
Action taken	48 hour ban

Allowing vandalism to take place without doing anything to try and prevent it. Indeed, he actively supported it. I can't be arsed linking to the various pieces of evidence, pretty much everyone knows what went down anyway. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 04:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Discussion moved to the talk page -- Cheese 18:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Please include the relevant links next time, bob.

• I can assure you it wasn't anyone I know --Sexylegsread 13:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC).
• On msn with them, I said, yes, it would be lulz to do this. And so far it has lived up to my expectations.--Sexylegsread 11:45 30 December 2008 (UTC).

I think it's clear that if we even accept his story that it was some faceless neighbor, and not him doing it, he was complicit in the vandalism. He was asked, should I do this, and he said yes, it will be lulz. He then proceeded to lulz it up on the vandal talk page, A/VB and A/M, lying about it all the way, depending on what could be proven at the time -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 05:51 1 January 2009 (BST)

Meatpuppet vandalism is still vandalism.--Karek^maps?! 08:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Right, I'm now sober and have had a chance to think. Vandalism -- Cheese 10:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, that looks like a 48hr ban, then. Done -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 10:55 1 January 2009 (BST)

This is ridiculous. Vandalism is a bad-faith edit. Talking to someone in RL is not an "edit" and, thus, cannot be vandalism. Not Vandalism.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 21:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Here are the links to bad faith edits to increase the disruption caused by this vandal impersonation that he coordinated with his "friend".

1. Posts on the sock account talk page to make sure that bob sees it on RC.
2. Taunting bob once he sees it and reports it on A/VB.
3. He fails to see how it's obvious, despite knowing the intent of the vandal, by his own admission later.
4. Assures us it is no one he knows.

It was a coordinated act of vandalism, so the next escalation is a 2 day ban. I can't help it if he's a persistent vandal who's used up all his warnings -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 02:16 2 January 2009 (BST)

Ok, here is the response to the "bad faith edits". 1. That isn't an act of vandalism. 2. That isn't an act of Vandalism. 3. That isnt an act of vandalism, and 4. Surprise Surprise, isn't an act of vandalism. Nice to see I was vandal banned for something you couldn't prove, isn't it? That agenda flare up again? Good timing too, getting me out of the way so that you could demote Jed under everyones noses. You are pure dirt, boxy.--CyberRead240 04:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

He may be dirt, but you're full of shit. --HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS 07:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Driving your buddies to make throw away accounts to make bad faith edits is as much vandalism as doing it yourself via proxy filters.--Karek^maps?! 21:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention it is an impersonation account of someone this user personally harasses. You can't believe that some random person made that account on their own.--– Nubis ^NWO 10:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)