UDWiki:Administration/Protections/Archive/2011 06
This page is for the request of page protection within the Urban Dead wiki. Due to philosophical concerns, the ability to protect pages is restricted to system operators. As such, regular users will need to request a protection from the system operators. For consistency and accountability, system operators also adhere to the guidelines listed here.
Guidelines for Protection Requests
All Protection Requests must contain the following information in order to be considered:
- A link to the page in question. Preferably bolded for visibility.
- A reason for protection. This should be short and to the point.
- A signed datestamp. This can be easily done by adding ~~~~ to the end of your request.
Any protection request that does not contain these three pieces of information will not be considered, and will be removed by a system operator.
Once the protection request has been entered, the request shall remain on this page, where it will be reviewed by a member of the Sysop team, and action taken accordingly. Once action has been taken, the system operator will add a comment including a signed datestamp detailing his course of action, and the request will be moved into the Recent Actions queue, where it will remain for one week. After that week is up, it may be moved to the archive (see navigation box below). If the Protection has been granted, the system operator should place the tag {{protect}} on the page(s) that have been protected.
In the event of a system operator requesting a Protection, all the previous points will apply, excepting that a system operator other than the requestor shall review and take action on the request.
Pages in the Protection Queue may already be scheduled protections. For a list of scheduled protections, see here.
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Protection Queue
Guides
We've now finished reviewing all the guides. I'll put up a notice now saying that guides need to be sent to Guides/Review before being placed on the page, we might as well protect the page so poorly-written guides don't get added again. Linkthewindow Talk 12:46, 16 August 2009 (BST)
Requested Edits
Place pages requiring editing here.
Recent Actions
User:Shakey60
I need to be protected from charlie who wants to ban me for something i didnt do--Shakey BBK 11:43, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- Won't actually make a difference, but anyway, protected. Linkthewindow Talk 12:46, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- So now I cant be banned coz I am protected? thanks for that--Shakey BBK 12:47, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- You can still be banned, a non-sysop just can't edit your page. No idea where you got the "can't be banned" idea from anyway :/. Linkthewindow Talk 12:50, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- I thought that I was being protected?--Shakey BBK 12:51, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- It's protecting the page User:Shakey60, not the account. Linkthewindow Talk 12:53, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- WHAT WHAT WHAT!!!!! YOU PROTECTRD MY PAGE I OBVIOUSLY DIDNT WANT THAT I WANT ME TO BE PROTECTED FROM VANDALISM COULD YOU PLEASE PROTECT ME FROM VANDALISM PLEASE FUCKING IDIOT.--Shakey BBK 12:56, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- You've posted on A/PT, which is used to request protection for pages. There is no way to protect a user from being banned using the wiki software. I've unprotected your page for now. Linkthewindow Talk 12:58, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- fgt--Shakey BBK 12:59, 16 August 2009 (BST)--Shakey BBK 12:59, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- sure is 4chan around here Cyberbob Talk 13:00, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- how can cybrobob be posting here I thought you protected it link--Shakey BBK 13:01, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- I protected your page, not this page UDWiki:Administration/Protections. Anyway, your page has been unprotected now. Linkthewindow Talk 13:02, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- how can cybrobob be posting here I thought you protected it link--Shakey BBK 13:01, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- sure is 4chan around here Cyberbob Talk 13:00, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- fgt--Shakey BBK 12:59, 16 August 2009 (BST)--Shakey BBK 12:59, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- You've posted on A/PT, which is used to request protection for pages. There is no way to protect a user from being banned using the wiki software. I've unprotected your page for now. Linkthewindow Talk 12:58, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- WHAT WHAT WHAT!!!!! YOU PROTECTRD MY PAGE I OBVIOUSLY DIDNT WANT THAT I WANT ME TO BE PROTECTED FROM VANDALISM COULD YOU PLEASE PROTECT ME FROM VANDALISM PLEASE FUCKING IDIOT.--Shakey BBK 12:56, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- It's protecting the page User:Shakey60, not the account. Linkthewindow Talk 12:53, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- I thought that I was being protected?--Shakey BBK 12:51, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- You can still be banned, a non-sysop just can't edit your page. No idea where you got the "can't be banned" idea from anyway :/. Linkthewindow Talk 12:50, 16 August 2009 (BST)
- So now I cant be banned coz I am protected? thanks for that--Shakey BBK 12:47, 16 August 2009 (BST)
Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead
I would formally like to request protection for this page again. I had protection for the page once before, right after I put it togethor. Needless to say, when I took a hiatus, some how, the protection was removed. You can see on the discussion page that it was severly altered (I can assume that this happened soon after the protection was removed).
I wish to have this page preserved until I request that the protection be removed because:
- I wish to preserve it as a reference tool as it was (historical value? [however little])
- For my own personal use in the future
- And until I can get around to editing My Own article myself
I am only requesting protection for the article, not for the discussion page.
Thanks, -Poodle of doom 23:34, 12 August 2009 (BST)
- Just make a copy of it in your userspace. Pages in the main space really aren't owned by anyone, especially not if numerous people have edited them (as is the case here). Cyberbob Talk 14:28, 13 August 2009 (BST)
- As Cyberbob says, we don't really have page ownership on a wiki. Anyone is free to edit any page as long as it is in good faith (i.e. not vandalism). If you want to keep a personal page which only you are allowed to edit then you are free to copy it into your userspace.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 14:40, 13 August 2009 (BST)
- So I'd have to make a subpage under my name. Something like User:Poodle of doom/A Beginners Guide.... sounds good. I'll do that, then request a speedy deletion. Just so I have more insight as to what the process is though.... how did I get protection on it last time? -Poodle of doom 02:36, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- No idea. Can you remember roughly when it was? Cyberbob Talk 02:40, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- It was because you were the owner of the page, something that was re-established a couple of months ago and was somehow overlooked in this protections request... However, if he's happy with moving it to a user subpage, so be it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:55, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- I'm perfectly happy with moving it. Like I said,... I was interested in learning more about the process. -Poodle of doom 03:36, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- The process is that people post requests for protections/unprotections and edits to protected pages here. 9 times out of 10 their requests will be granted, but not always. The reasonings for this aren't really set in stone; unlike Speedy Deletions there aren't any criteria set in stone (simply because this isn't the sort of thing that can be codified). Cyberbob Talk 09:00, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- I'm perfectly happy with moving it. Like I said,... I was interested in learning more about the process. -Poodle of doom 03:36, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- It was because you were the owner of the page, something that was re-established a couple of months ago and was somehow overlooked in this protections request... However, if he's happy with moving it to a user subpage, so be it. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:55, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- The original protection request is here, it was later unprotected and edited to be just a hub page. Poodle put it up for speedydeletion, but Janus Abernathy found a web archive version of it, so it was put back the way poodle created it -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:10 14 August 2009 (BST)
- No idea. Can you remember roughly when it was? Cyberbob Talk 02:40, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- So I'd have to make a subpage under my name. Something like User:Poodle of doom/A Beginners Guide.... sounds good. I'll do that, then request a speedy deletion. Just so I have more insight as to what the process is though.... how did I get protection on it last time? -Poodle of doom 02:36, 14 August 2009 (BST)
I'm actually for fulfilling this request, I consider Poodle the owner of this page (it was his guide to start with), he protected with his inactivity in mind and unfortunately it was let loose to another user while he was gone, beyond his control because he was absent. However, if Poodle is content just moving it to his userpage, that's fine, but seriously, what will happen then? He'll work on it in his namespace, then when it's completed he'll just put it back onto the original (Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead) anyway. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:23, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- As soon as someone else works on an article I really don't think that the creator can be said to be its owner anymore. Nobody can - that's the whole point of a wiki. Cyberbob Talk 10:25, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- Good point. But if his request had been done to its fullest (ie. the protection of his project until his desire to have it unprotected) it would have remained a product of his work, and we accepted that when we reverted the entire page to his original work as per that A/SD case. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:28, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- I think we should probably leave it where it is. It will need updating in the future, as the game changes, and we can't guarantee that poodle will be around to do it. If it's going to be a useful guide, it needs to be kept current. Perhaps a simple notice about not making major changes (ie. wiping nearly all of the information and replacing with links) without discussion first -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:34 14 August 2009 (BST)
- I agree, the point of a wiki is that a page can be edited by anyone. This guide most likely will need to be edited in the future, so it shouldn't be protected. Wiki etiquette is that you should use the discussion page before making major changes, anyway.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 10:38, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- I'm fine with that. The page can stay open. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:58, 14 August 2009 (BST)
- I think we should probably leave it where it is. It will need updating in the future, as the game changes, and we can't guarantee that poodle will be around to do it. If it's going to be a useful guide, it needs to be kept current. Perhaps a simple notice about not making major changes (ie. wiping nearly all of the information and replacing with links) without discussion first -- boxy talk • teh rulz 10:34 14 August 2009 (BST)
- Good point. But if his request had been done to its fullest (ie. the protection of his project until his desire to have it unprotected) it would have remained a product of his work, and we accepted that when we reverted the entire page to his original work as per that A/SD case. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 10:28, 14 August 2009 (BST)
UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive/July-2009
Just a request that someone fixes the headers on the page - some of those headers are level three, when they should be level two.
Thanks. Linkthewindow Talk 13:48, 4 August 2009 (BST)
I assume you meant level 4 when they should be level 3, and I assume you had to duck out else you could have just done this yourself. Either way, I've changed all ====headers==== to ===headers===. --ϑϑℜ 14:11, 4 August 2009 (BST)
- Yeah, level three, thanks. And, no, it's not that I had to duck out, just that I should probably ask before editing an archive. Anyway, thanks. Linkthewindow Talk 21:30, 4 August 2009 (BST)
T.page archives
Just a quick note that I've protected User talk:DanceDanceRevolution/Archive5. --ϑϑℜ 13:36, 2 August 2009 (BST)
Protections Scheduling Queue
Protection Scheduling requests should be requested in the same general format as Deletions. Votes will occur in the same general manner, and like deletion scheduling requests will be voted on for two (2) weeks, as judged by the initial datestamp. Valid votes are:
- Yea - Approval of Schedule Request
- Nay - Disapproval of Schedule Request
Historical Events
I'm not sure why historical groups are scheduled protections but historical events aren't. In a historical sense they both have the same principles behind why they should be protected upon becoming classed as Historical.
Basically, I'm proposing that all current and future events that are Historical (as per Historical Events voting) are to be protected on sight. --ϑϑℜ 10:57, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yep - I'm pretty sure no one would throw a fit if we protected them anyway, however. Linkthewindow Talk 14:25, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes --ϑϑℜ 14:26, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- I also apologise for the overuse of the historical word 'historical' in my historical proposal. Historical. --ϑϑℜ 17:45, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- ;')--Thadeous Oakley 18:06, 22 July 2009 (BST)
- I also apologise for the overuse of the historical word 'historical' in my historical proposal. Historical. --ϑϑℜ 17:45, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes--C Whitty 17:03, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:31, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes --SirArgo Talk 17:37, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes --Orange Talk 18:37, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes Ans link said, there shouldn't be a problem with this. It's historical for pete's sake. -Poodle of doom 19:13, 20 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes - Leave the talk pages open though maybe? --Darth Sensitive W! 04:36, 21 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes as Darth. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 07:34, 21 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes - as above --Brian Talk to me 12:26, 21 July 2009 (BST)
- No - talk pages should stay open. I'm assuming you plan on protecting them to based on your reference to historical groups, correct me if i'm wrong.--xoxo 12:33, 21 July 2009 (BST)
- I actually intended on keeping talk pages open (hence why they aren't specified in the request, I forgot about them), because events don't theoretically fall under the ownership of any user or page, unlike historical groups, who have protection, because as a matter of principle there should be no members to maintain the talk page. --ϑϑℜ 10:50, 27 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes --Thadeous Oakley 18:06, 22 July 2009 (BST)
- Yes --User:Axe27/Sig 21:16, 23 July 2009 (BST)
- y--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:25, 23 July 2009 (BST)
Passed with 13 for, 1 against. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 02:36, 12 August 2009 (BST)