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The Feral Movement

- DevOhm 13:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I've decided to withdraw this guide from nomination at this time. Instead, I've taken it here to deal with some issues raised during this voting. Thanks everyone. - DevOhm 12:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

For

1. Author vote. Hope it reads well. - DevOhm 13:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
2. For it. It's a pretty extensive list of the possibilities of in-game communication and coordination of zombies.--Spiderzed 14:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
3. Well-written and helpful, but it's more of a group page than a guide. I figure it'll help new players though, so I'm voting for. 16:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
4. More of a policy than a guide. But lots of effort and some good advice. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 17:45, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
5. The information presented is well-written and somewhat origional. It does come across at times more like a group than a guide, but aside from that one easily-fixable problem it is a good guide.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 19:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

   Any recommendations for making it less group-ish? I tried to do that with the disclaimer section at the beginning. - DevOhm 00:01, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

   Well, dump the group infobox for one. It gives the page a very strong 'group' vibe. Also perhaps suggest using the group field of the profile for a link to the wiki article, instead of just the name, as that says group too. 00:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

   Most of the article is fine; however, certain sections, such as 'Disclaimer," "Group Affiliation," and "The Feral Movement should be rewritten to shift the focus from the "group" (which should at best be an aside suggestion/endorsement) and more towards the concept. As Misanthropy suggested, you should either drop the groupbox, or create a custom model that doesn't use all the "group" variables.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 02:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

   You know, having "tiny.cc/feral" as the group tag is a really great idea. Combining the group tag function with the wiki link is a great way to condense information even further. When the voting is up I'll definitely fold that idea into the guide. - DevOhm 06:43, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

6. Wonderfully written! A very good guide for a feral!!--Zaphord 00:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
7. tl;dr. I'll just go with the nice vote anyway. Cookies and Cream 09:31, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Against

1. Against, but only just. It's a well written guide at the bottom, but we cannot forget that it is indeed a group page. --Haliman - Talk 17:10, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

   I figured that a precedent for this sort of thing was set with X:00, which was pretty group-like at first. - DevOhm 00:01, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

2. Against interesting read but is it a guide? --C Whitty 00:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
3. Only barely against it, just because it does still read like a group page. Honestly, I'd take it to Developing Guides since it is a perfectly usable guide, but just needs to be de-groupified a bit. Give it a few days over there to polish it up, then bring it back here afterwards, I think. —Aichon— 00:56, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
4. As Aichon. A little polish and less group-ish and I'm 100% behind this guide. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 10:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
5. Against. Remove mentions of setting group affiliation, the group template in the top right portion of the page, and the mentions of the stats page so it feels less like a group page and more like a guide to a style of feral life. --Papa Johnny 14:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

   I'm down with the group box and stats page mentions, but I think the group affiliation is still a useful tactic for a number of reasons. Misanthropy suggested using a link to the wiki page as a group affiliation and I think that's a great idea. Would that work you think? Makes it more about the tactics than the identity, but you can still recognize groans and all that. - DevOhm 07:25, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

6. Againt -- Fix, as above, and I'll change my mind. Asheets 17:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Abstain

Guide was withdrawn by author. - DevOhm 04:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Winman1/Why zombies have an advantage

--Winman1 00:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

For

1. I'm voting for my own guide--Winman1 00:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
2. I vote in favor of the guide. While it has its flaws, it is pointing out numerous problems.

Starting out is really a misnomer. The proper term should be "Get dumped in the middle of nowhere and get eaten alive." Starting out with few supplies and few abilities, if you are put into an area where there are any zombies looking around, there's a very good chance you're going to die. Overcading prevents people from getting into buildings where they'd be safe, but the cades are put in place as a response to zombie attacks in order to protect resource spots. While a person could, hypothetically, check in every 30 minutes to see if their light barricades have been torn down (the zombie of course being generous enough to wait about taking action until the survivor has had an opportunity to respond), it's not realistic. People have lives, and can't spend all their time constantly checking up. Very high barricades are put in place because one good series of attacks would allow zombies to breach a building, and since no one starts with the ability to fortify a base of operations at level 1, death is a very likely outcome. If you're lucky enough to find yourself in a reclaimed suburb, you've got a chance, but with as many zombies as there are, you're more likely to end up eaten. Zombies, meanwhile, don't really have that much to be concerned about. Zombies aren't hunted because no matter what the survivors manage to do, the zombie just stands back up and continues attacking. Headshot is shrugged off easily enough, even at lower levels. Survivors cade up buildings because barricaded buildings are their only safe refuge. Zombies don't need refuge. They just need someone to eat.

The breakdown between Zombies and Survivors based on numbers is a major point as well, and he's correct. Simply looking at the numbers doesn't show anything. Zombies love to get revived so they can do some scouting and report back to others or just get inside a barricaded building and cause destruction. Death Cultists and PKers are a major thorn in survivors' sides. Anyone who's been hacked to death by a Death Cultist can attest to that.

As for the Nerfing, I'd say he's wrong about speech, as it's been indicated that there is a reason of practicality behind it. Revivification cost is one that he does have right. When the amount of AP expended to make and administer a syringe is the same amount as the AP cost to load and fire 10 shotgun shells, there is a major disparity. I can understand the reasoning behind it - "balance." If it only cost a reasonable amount of AP to revive someone, then survivors would "be too powerful" (in other words, have a chance at surviving). But consider the difference between a survivor and a zombie - it costs 20 AP to revive a survivor (finding or making a syringe and administering it), more AP to cure infection and bring the survivor to full health, and even then, the survivor must still collect weapons and ammo. All a zombie need do is stand up and he's at full health, with the highest possible cost to stand up being only 15AP, as opposed to the (at the very least) 23AP to get a Survivor back to that state. The Large Building argument I'll not bother with. It's better that buildings be realistic, but even inside of malls, barricades could be formed in real life (benches blocking walkways and such). Ruin is the biggest disparity. One zombie can break into a building, infect everyone in it, and destroy a generator, leaving plenty of time for other zombies to get inside and make the building unholdable because, unlike zombies, survivors have to gather ammo to have effective weapons. That means that unless a lone zombie breaks into a gun show, it can force out multiple survivors, and then ruin the building and camp to prevent it being fixed. Dakerstown is a perfect example, where metagaming Extinction organizes attacks and then camps the ruins. Survivors can't force them out because of number disparity (not to mention lack of ammo), so even if they do finally manage it, the AP cost to repair leaves them unable to fix it and have any hope of surviving. There's also the fact that a survivor running into a ruin gets them injured, but a zombie jumping to the outside of a ruin deals no damage. Free Running ends up making it MORE likely that you'll be easy prey for zombies if there's a ruin around, and why? Because apparently, ruining the inside of a building makes it impossible for a person to get inside AND makes it almost certain they'll break their leg falling to the ground outside.

The zombie apologists can complain about "Cades" as much as they want, but when close to half of all suburbs are either Very Dangerous or Ghost Towns, both starting-off survivors and even veteran survivors have little chance of cades holding for more than a few hours. You want balance? Give survivors the ability to tackle a zombie out the door for an HP penalty. That would give survivors a fighting chance. Franklin Castle 17:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

tl;dr pl0x? Also do not talk about Extinction being an effective horde given their track record -- 

•   Timmah!  

•   Talk  

18:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

You do know how rare it is for zombies to control more than half the map? On one of my medic-scouts the other day, I wandered outside to find some people who got locked out. There were four people standing outside in a 3x3 block radius, all of whom were at full health. And this isn't the first time I've run into these. I've seen countless green suburbs with a complete total of 0 zombies, including ones at revive points. Yellow/orange suburbs are more often than not far easier to get into, and make up the majority of the map. Zombies mean that cades will less likely be at EHB 24/7. Zombies mean people to heal, zombies to kill, DNA extract, revive. A zombie spawning anywhere is screwed unless they join up with a horde or manage to get lucky enough to find opened buildings until midgame. Also, this is a zombie apocalypse. The survivors aren't supposed to have a fighting chance. They should never outnumber the zombies. Human on human conflict is the center of anything in the zombie genre that is worth its salt. RinKou 21:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Against

1. Most of your points are either heavily opinionated, based off of personal experience, or rely on fallicious logic. The article reads as an anti-zombie rant; it bears little resemblance to a guide.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 00:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
2. Giant fucking against. Are we playing the same game? 00:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
3. Holy shit man, no offense, but wow. Ruins are an advantage to Zombies? Make it so you can't freerun out of them and MAYBE they might actually be worth creating. I could go on, but damn, just no.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 01:02 6 December 2009(BST)
4. No way. The logic is off, the arguments are incorrect, and it would only serve to misdirect new players. —Aichon— 01:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
5. How is this even a guide?. True zombies start out with Vigour Mortis, and they are able to attack barricades, but how can they get inside without memories of life? This "guide" is just terrible.--Zaphord 01:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
6. Wow, this guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. You know, saying "Yes I have had a zombie character" doesn't support your anti-zombie screed when it's clear from what you say that you have never had a functioning zombie character. Spending an hour or two undead while your trenchy ass shambles over to the revive point doesn't count. You don't know that without Memories of Life, a zombie isn't getting into a building? You haven't noticed actual hit rates on barricades? You think a 100% accurate autokill strike is too expensive at 10 AP plus using up its item? The next time a zombie Winman1 complains about unfairness, you know they're he's lying. --Mold 01:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
7. This moron's guides are worse than his ideas. Now we know where he gets all his crappy suggestions from: He has no understanding of how Urban Dead functions! Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 03:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
8. Your guide should fix its grievous errors before being resubmitted. You're going to want to use User:Winman1/Why survivors have a slight advantage, I think. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 04:00, 6 December 2009 (BST)
9. -- SA 04:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
10. lmao Cyberbob  Talk  05:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
11. ~facepalm~ As above. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 06:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
12. MASSIVE FUCKING AGAINST --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:15, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
13. Apart from ignoring or misinterpreting a large number of things.. where is the guide material? What does this teach me and my character about the game that will help me? I don't think of this as a guide, rather an analysis, and a poor one at that. - User:Whitehouse 11:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
14. It's not such a bad read. From the comments above I was expecting something far worse. But it's not really a guide either.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 13:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
15. Rubbish.-- Adward  15:15, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
16. Interesting.. but not a guide. --Janus ^talk 15:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
17. Not a guide. -- Papa Jadkor ^{(RRF) (MotA) (MT11)} 17:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
18. Im not going to take "strategy" advice from someone who can't even spell it. Also see talk page on that for my personal thoughts. -- 
    •   Timmah!  
    •   Talk  
    18:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
19. You again?

    • "Zombie characters say that survivors have more advantages than them." - No, zombie characters do not say this, it's impossible to say in Death Rattle.
    • "Zombies start the game with Vigour Mortis which gives them the ability to start getting xp with no trouble." - Massive advantage.... because there are no survivor characters with the ability to gain XP straight away....
    • "Yes I have had a zombie character" - But have obviously never had a clue.
    • "Survivors have to find a reliably vsb building to hide in when they start the game." - Rubbish, there is no imperative at all to do this. Understand HIPS before you even think of making a response to this point. You also conveniently forget about the Scout class here.
    • "In addition, they must acquire free running before they can find ammunition or useful supplies" - Again forgetting about Scouts... Also, who's fault is it that all the malls are stupidly heavily barricaded? Would that be survivors? And are there no police departments, fire stations and hospitals at VSB? If there aren't, how did my survivors ever level?
    • "When I started an account as..." - Thank you for telling us that you're an idiot with no idea about how to play this game, but we already knew that. The private class is the easiest character to start and level with. On average I manage 18 levels with such a character in one month of playing, a zombie would be lucky to get a quarter of that XP in the same play conditions.
    • "A lot of zombies say that there are more survivors than zombies." - Nope, still can't say this as a zombie, not possible.
    • "I have a theory that at least 5% of survivor characters actually fight against survivors." - Your theory is wrong. It just is. But would you care to show your working at least? Tell me what numbers you crunched using your mere months of game experience to arrive at a nice round 5%?
    • "The majority of pkers are people that kill survivors." - As the term is used in this game all PKers kill survivors...
    • "survivors are also plagued by gkers whom destroy a survivor's most important resource, generators" - Generators are not a survivor's most important resource, needles are.
    • "Survivor speech was limited to 50 people. This messed up communication in crowded places" - Zombies did this to hurt survivors? I'm quite sure I remember it getting changed to save server load and stop the game actually breaking down.
    • "Revives cost 10AP. This gave zombies an advantage in situations where survivors need to revive large number of people. Most significantly in mall sieges zombies got an advantage from the increased AP cost of revives" - What a logical and well thought out idea... neatly avoiding the AP advantage of barricades...
    • "Large were fused buildings. Before, each block of a large structure was considered an independent structure. After this, once zombies break into one part of a large building such as a mall, the entire place is doomed." - What a hideous update that was, completely unrealistic. When I go to the mall I often have to go outside and around to get to another store. This is why malls are excellent military buildings that are often fortified in times of war...
    • "Now, you have to get rid of all zombies in a building to be able to barricade/repair it." - Neatly omitting that zombies have to remove all the survivors to gain the ruin in the first place and the massive difference in immediate AP to alter the two states.
    • "This Nerf kept Red suburbs red. Also, it completely destroyed survivor effectiveness in red suburbs." - Nope, idiot survivors being completely apathetic kept suburbs ruined. Go talk to 404 and go on holiday to a ruined suburb sometime.
    • "In addition ruins can break free running lanes" - Forgetting, of course, that such ruins act as entry points that get marked as such on the minimap...
    • "Flesh Rot. Zombies are then able to only have zombie skills yet still be effective against survivors." - ...as zombies needs to the qualifier here, a death cultist without harman skills is a bit pointless. You're also neglecting that Flesh Rot appears after Brain Rot, effectively locking the character into a more difficult manner of playing the game.
    • "Survivors however need zombie skills to be more effective." - Lies.
    • "The next time a zombie complains about unfairness, you know they're lying." - The next time you try and convince someone you know what you're talking about, everyone will know that you're lying.

    Come on! Normally I'd think you were a bit clueless and needed teaching, but this latest stream of vomit that you've infected my wiki with proves that you're just butthurt over not being able to be a one man army of awesome. Unfortunately this isn't due to the game mechanics, it's because the people you are playing against are just smarter than you. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 18:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

20. No, just no --Ephraim 19:40, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
21. The guide was unappealing and basic, poorly written and dull. Next time structure your work more and spend a little time on it.--C Whitty 20:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
22. FUCK NO--Orange Talk 22:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
23. Hahahaha -Lord Hawthorne 23:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
24. Against - No. (As above.) --Private Mark 04:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
25. ? - You just don't give up do you? Cookies and Cream 04:39, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
26. This is a rant not a guide. And completely wrong in places (e.g. "Zombies start with vigour mortis". Mine don't, they start with NT Employment or Diagnosis.) --Catherine Athay 08:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
27. Not a guide. Linkthewindow  Talk  11:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
28. As above. --Haliman - Talk 23:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
29. Against - what isn't opinion is mostly wrong. Also, it isn't a guide. Garum 20:26, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
30. Against - Memories of Life is the most bullshit skill ever. Until there's some method for low level zombies to actually get into buildings beginning survivors will always have a massive advantage. My scouts level faster than my corpses. My consumers level faster than my corpses. My revived corpses level faster than my zombified corpses. See what I'm getting at? Closed doors are extremely fucking frustrating when you're playing feral. RinKou 06:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
31. Against - I am not really sure what the hell he's talking about, I have not be hit by a zed in half a year, sure they have all that stuff going for them, but humans have EHB cades and dark buildings. Put the two together and YOU NEVER DIE! EVER! Unless someone try's to hunt you down personally; puts in a genny, fuels it up and then kills you, other then that humans have it easy. Yes I know it's hard when your low level but suck it up! If it was not for the first part of this game "being low level and it being hard because of that" what would be the point of even playing this fucking game then? I no the voting is done but had to get this out.--Truezombieboy 09:15, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
32. Against - Please fix your formatting and sentences and I don't think that zombies had a higher advantage. It's hard to get any EXP unless you're travelling with a massive zombie horde or preying on new players who got locked out outside. Crystal Roselle 8:06, 16 December 2009 (GMT)

Abstain

1. Massively, I may write a counterpoint to this. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 00:51, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

   Say hello to A/VB Mr. Winman1 alt. *swings ban-hammer* Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 04:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Voting closed. With a count of 32 Against to 2 For, this guide has failed to attract support, and will not be featured on the Guides page. —Aichon— 21:16, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

User:Winman1/The seasoned stratagist

My UD game profile http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=1602460

A guide for survivors. (I don't really know that much about the wiki so move this to wherever its supposed to be if its not in the right place.) Its best to read the entire guide.

--Winman1 23:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Where it is right now is quite alright, don't worry. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 00:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

He should worry, I'm about to vote and take this apart. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

For

1. I'm voting for my own guide...obviously--Winman1 02:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
2. It's ok.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 07:48 10 November 2009(BST)

Against

1. Let's begin:

   • "Formatting - There must be no obvious formatting errors in the text. The guide must work in all major browsers. - Someone with other browsers can confirm this, however it does just turn into a mass of endless black and white hypnosis towards the middle.
   • "Accuracy - The guide must be accurate." - It's not. I'll explain later.
   • "Clarity - The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors." - What do the following 'words' have in common? "stratagist", "Meatsheilding", "bu" and "alot". And that's before I get onto the grammar...
   • "since combat is what this game is built around" - No, it isn't. Take off your trenchcoat, grow up and learn something.
   • "zombies are actually the dominating faction" - The stats page disagrees with you.
   • "A few players advocate combat reviving to use against zombies, hoping they will decide to play survivor for an extended period of time. Combat reviving is based around that core idea which rarely works." - This line proves how truly stupid you are, go talk to The Big Prick or 404 and ask them if they combat revive so that zombies 'rediscover their humanity and learn the error of their ways'. It's got nothing to do with it, people should be intelligent enough to understand this before they write guides to try and instruct other players.
   • "Right now the horde seems to be moving southwest" - The horde? The horde? Like singular? We only have one?
   • "Binoculars and necrotech scans are your best friends." - No, they aren't.
   • "First, you must secure (secure means light and barricade to a proficient amount ) factories to acquire a decent generator source." - No, needle barns come first, they're the easiest building to defend and allow your group to replace casualties and soak massive amounts of opposition AP.
   • "Go to the zombie group's forum saying "I found this bunch of survivors hiding in (whatever the place is you plan to lure them to.)" - In the meta we have a word for this. That word is cheating. Impersonating someone to deceive is just as bad as impersonation to gain information.
   • "In any outcome zombies will be dazed at their loss, or surprised of survivor coordination, zombies will be slightly more careful when taking any information of survivors fearing it may be another ambush." - Never played as a zombie have you? Didn't think so. I love being told what my side will do by ignorant trenchies.
   • "Groups with these people use the hit and run tactic. " - Groups with these people die and become mrh? cows.
   • "Obviously zombies are watching survivor radio frequencies" - Obviously, not.
   • "Know the zombie, trick the zombie" - Yet you yourself don't 'know the zombie'.

   That's the initial pass at your 'guide'. To say it sucks would be offensive to catholic school girls (who do indeed suck). I wrote this for people like you, or idiots as I tend to call them. The very best thing you can do with your guide that will help survivors, yourself and the quality of this wiki is to go here, place a link to your guide followed by the words "Crit Seven" and then your signature. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 01:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

2. As above--Orange Talk 02:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
3. I am afraid this really is not a very well written guide. First, the grammar is rather hard to follow. There are many run-on sentences and fragments, which, combined with several minor spelling errors, make the guide appear rather unprofessional and difficult to read. Make sure to run your guide through a spell checker for errors, and read it aloud, so you can hear if it makes sense.

   Second, the advice goes against many accepted beliefs. The propaganda section is highly misleading- broadcasting anti-zombie slurs is generally considered spam, while spreading misinformation on opposing forums is considered a rude and underhanded tactic. Both behaviors demonstrate highly unsportsman-like attitudes. Furthermore, the tactics section is confusing to read and shows an incomplete understanding of the game. Luring zombies seldom works in practice, and attacking zombies outside is viewed by the survivor population as pointless, with the exception of gathering XP. The section on reclaiming buildings is also misleading and unclear- zombies inside of a building can drastically reduce the success rate of barricading, and you are vague on when it is appropriate to attack zombies.

   In its current state, this guide is both difficult to read and misleading in its advice. Read up on the wide array of survivor tactics, become knowledgeable in the nuances of the game, and collaborate with other users (Developing Guides) in order to insure high quality and accuracy. Do those and you will greatly increase the quality of the guide.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 02:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

4. Rule number one "1. Win All Without Fighting", "luring tactic", and "Knowing the Zombies" seem to contradict each other making the guide confusing, along with the grammar and errors stated above.--Zaphord 03:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
5. As Iscariot. And thanks for providing the detailed post... saved me the effort of trying to read that whole thing and create one of my own. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 08:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
6. As above. Also, the phrase "Right now the horde seems to be moving southwest, so any south westerners should prepare" is rather inaccurate and would quickly become out of date. Chief Seagull 10:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
7. As Red Hawk. I can't support forum spying as a tactic. And I don't think "luring" zombies to your safehouse and then "ambushing" them in real-time would actually work.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 12:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
8. As some of Iscariots points which prove this as trenchie garbage. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
9. As above. --Itsacon ^{(Talk | Grungni | Ikhnaton)} 15:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
10. Generally bad. Says not to combat revive, then lists the pros of combat reviving as cons. Advocates sinister tactics and generally being a dick.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 20:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
11. Developing Guides and I'm here if anyone has any 404 questions they want to ask. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 21:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
12. Crap guide with silly ideas and bad tactics. "Monitoring major zombie group's pages and forums care vital to predict zombie movements" is legit: if it's on a public forum, it's fair use in-game. Advising one to impersonate a zombie player on a forum is another thing entirely: it's called cheating. --WanYao 08:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
13. Absolutely no redeeming factor, as was laid about above. --Private Mark 22:08, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
14. Oh lawdy. 05:03, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
15. Utter shit. --Papa Moloch 06:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
16. Alright let's see if I have wiki format down yet. This guide violates the one thing that survivors need to do, survive. I'm not going to be redundant with 'unsportsmantlike conduct' or 'trenchcoater' comments. Iscariot rode those to the gates of Hell and back. Remember though that a survivor is meant to survive, staging massive (and suicidal) offensive tactics does no one any favors. The zeds get back up, and you have a few extra teeth marks for your troubles. --St. Faux
17. Weak guide over common knowledge. Criminally Insane ^{Talk | LoD} 11:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Abstain

1. seems ok.--Shut up noob 18:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC) - Multi-vote struck -- SA 18:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

After two weeks and less than 50% support, this guide will not be featured on the Guides page. Failed.--Zaphord 04:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Guides:The Newbie's Guide to Surviving the Apocalypse

Well, this was on here before, but it was a bit out of date, and there were many revisions to be made. I've since made corrections that were suggested and I've updated the material. I have multiple people who have said this guide helped them and I'd like to re submit this updated version --Rohndogg1 01:53, 22 October 2009 (BST)

For

1. Obviously I'm for my own guide. --Rohndogg1 01:53, 22 October 2009 (BST)
2. Granted that necessary changse/fixes as detailed below are upheld. --Private Mark 06:12, 22 October 2009 (BST)
3. Decent enough stuff. A nice read, needs a bit of fixing here and there.--Thadeous Oakley 13:27, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Overall, it's shaping up to be a nice beginner's guide. However, there are still a few major problems. The code boxes you're using cause the text to stretch off the page- this makes reading the guide difficult in places, and hurts the aesthetics. I reccomend you replace them with another form of bolding, such as, well, bold-face text ('''Text here'''). Second, the breakdown on skills places too much emphasis on the combat skills, without providing reasoning behind that method. You should outline the other forms of xp grinding, such as healing or DNA scanning, and give reasoning behind why new players should get the skill first (remember that for many scientists and civilians, healing is an equal or better strategy than gunning down zombies). You also do not outline how class choice affects skill costs, nor do you place free running on the go-get list; many veteran players consider this one of, if not the first skills a player should get. Finally, there are still several (minor) grammar and stylistic mistakes which distract from the guide. Make sure to read it out loud, and see if what you wrote makes sense. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as a bit hard-to-please, but this is looking like it could be a really great guide; I'm holding it, and you, to that higher standard (think of it as a compliment ;D).--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 02:14, 22 October 2009 (BST)

   Thanks for the box comment, I didn't even notice it did that. It's because I copied it over from the forum. I just fixed that, so if that's your biggest fault than I'd look at it again now.As for Free Running, I do mention it as important in more than one location. As for healing as a method of leveling, I admit that it's lacking in that department, however I've never really used that method so I'm not an authority on the process. I will admit that I should add a part about skill cost though, that just never crossed my mind. I can make said revisions rather quickly, so it shouldn't be a problem. As for spelling and grammar, again that can be quickly fixed, and also easily overlooked if you aren't searching for it. I appreciate the input --Rohndogg1 03:18, 22 October 2009 (BST)

   The aesthetics are much better now. However, I still feel you should elaborate the skills section; provide reasoning behind why players should follow your model. As for healing, the common process is to: hang around a VSB hospital, and either heal anyone who comes through (announce your willing ness to heal if you don't have diagnosis), or wander the suburb, looking for survivors sleeping outside or in other buildings that likely need healing. Buy diagnosis as soon as possible (then freerunning), and continue building skills. It's slower but safer than guns. You don't need to get into too much detail if you're uncertain, but it warrents mention as a viable alternative to shooting. You're getting there!--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 03:30, 22 October 2009 (BST)

   Thanks, we need more people like you around the wiki community. --Rohndogg1 03:41, 22 October 2009 (BST)

2. It's badly formatted, unclear, has faulty spelling and grammar and has game advice that is just plain wrong. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:17, 22 October 2009 (BST)

   Please elaborate on what is "just plain wrong"--Rohndogg1 03:18, 22 October 2009 (BST)

3. I am marginally against. But let me say it's a great article and really I enjoyed it. My only problem is that there are a TON of guides on the same subject. Unfortunately there have been many many good guides on the same topic and there just isn't a lot of room to say something new at this point. Don't be discouraged, and I hope you put together another guide on a less traveled path.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 13:03, 22 October 2009 (BST)

   #Just nothing that stands out. --WanYao 05:50, 23 October 2009 (BST) changed --WanYao 05:54, 23 October 2009 (BST)

4. More explanation, and further descriptions to the introduction of the game would be useful. The "Cade Levels" section feels cluttered and doesn't follow the same organization as other list(Code boxes). The word "I" and the first person perspectives of the guide gives the reader of uncertainty. A few grammar errors are scattered throughout. The guide contains good information, however, it lacks in grammar and explanation.--Zaphord 19:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Abstain

1. Some good stuff. But as above, it lacks the comprehensiveness and/or originality of a high end guide. --WanYao 05:54, 23 October 2009 (BST)

Close but no cigar, with <50% support, this guide will not be featured on the Guides page. Failed. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 13:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Tips for a Zombie

More fun from the orphans list. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 15:31, 8 October 2009 (BST)

For

Against

1. Like in his other guides, the presentation is sub-par and there are many grammatical mistakes (namely the lack of spacing after punctuation). The material is obvious, confusing, and occasionally contradictory- he recommends skipping body building and a flak jacket for Flesh Rot, but cautions against taking Brain Rot (a prerequisite for the above skill).--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 04:06, 9 October 2009 (BST)
2. Can we have a speedy deletion criteria for idiocy in the main space. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 04:39, 9 October 2009 (BST)

   Yes. But then we'd only have 4 pages on the wiki. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 09:31, 9 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

Failed -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:56, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Bounty Hunter's Guide

Orphaned. Worth saving? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:23, 2 October 2009 (BST)

For

1. This is great! The name is a little misleading because it's more of an introduction to becoming a bounty hunter as opposed to a bounty hunter's guide. But still, very nice for what it is.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:09, 2 October 2009 (BST)
2. Provides a good intro into bounty hunting. I think the tactics section could use a little expanding, but other than that it is both unique and well-written enough to warrent a spot on the guides page. Good work!--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 18:54, 2 October 2009 (BST)
3. The end remark about crossing FRL's is true enough. I know my BHer has caught plenty of criminals that way. Criminally Insane 01:34, 4 October 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 19:39, 7 October 2009 (BST)

#--Thadeous Oakley 13:36, 22 October 2009 (BST) - Vote added after voting period expired struck. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:56, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Close, very close. There's some good material there; it just needs to have its grammar and spelling fixed, and to have some of those paragraphs split up into more convenient chunks. Cyberbob  Talk  10:28, 2 October 2009 (BST)
2. It's poorly written, badly spelt and doesn't actually give a great deal of guidance. It's an extended advert for the DEM, Resens and UDTool. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:28, 5 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

1. There is some great material there, but it needs to be fleshed out more. If there were one or two players who run bounty hunters willing to contribute to the guide and flesh it out some more I would definitely vote Keep. As is I'm kind of torn. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 19:33, 3 October 2009 (BST)

Passed for inclusion into survivor section. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:56, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Commando's handbook

For

Against

1. A bunch of really obvious stuff like - carry weapons - and - don't fall asleep outside. Though "once you hit, you must commit" has some redeeming value.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:03, 2 October 2009 (BST)
2. As Giles, a lot of this has been stated in almost every guide. There are a few good parts (the commitment factor definately stands out), but it's just not enough to make it really stand out from other guides. Elaborate your sections a bit and this could become a good guide.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 18:49, 2 October 2009 (BST)
3. Again, really nothing that stands out in this guide enough to make the whole thing worth keeping. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 19:26, 3 October 2009 (BST)
4. As the rest. It's been said elsewhere, and worded better. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:10, 5 October 2009 (BST)
5. Dumber than a mall. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:29, 5 October 2009 (BST)
6. Retarded guide. --Papa Johnny 17:31, 7 October 2009 (BST)
7. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 19:39, 7 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

Failed -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:16, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Guide:Rat's Tips on UD

Orphaned Guide. Worth putting back on the page? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:27, 1 October 2009 (BST)

For

Against

1. It's borderline; most of the survivor tips are good for newer players, but there are a few misleading ones, and overall the guide is confusing to read.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 19:52, 1 October 2009 (BST)
2. I like the short'n'sharp tone but it needs some sprucing up and filling out. Cyberbob  Talk  10:21, 2 October 2009 (BST)
3. This guide advises survivors to never build barricades and zombies to never attack the barricades. Wtf?--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:13, 2 October 2009 (BST)
4. Really not much of a guide. More random-tips-I-didn't-feel-like-putting-on-my-user-page. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 19:42, 3 October 2009 (BST)
5. Were all of these written by the same idiot? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:25, 5 October 2009 (BST)
6. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 19:39, 7 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

Failed -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:15, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Guide:Undercover

Orphaned Guide. Worth putting back on the page? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:27, 1 October 2009 (BST)

For

Against

1. Hard to tell at times whether this is a "zombie spy" guide, which is generally looked down on by the community, or a mediocre PKer guide; either way it's not very descriptive or well written.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 19:56, 1 October 2009 (BST)
2. Dumb. Cyberbob  Talk  10:21, 2 October 2009 (BST)
3. Doesn't make a lick of sense. "Try to avoid getting your DNA extracted"... okay.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:16, 2 October 2009 (BST)
4. Do you really need a guide about how to be an effective spy? I'm not a practitioner, but I would think that if you are thinking about being a spy, you probably don't need a guide to tell you the best way to do it. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 19:47, 3 October 2009 (BST)
5. Oh my. No thank you. 19:58, 3 October 2009 (BST)
6. It's like a death culting guide written by a mall rat. It's also completely wrong. If there's call I'll knock up a an actual guide for newbie death cultists, even though such a thing should be an oxymoron. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:24, 5 October 2009 (BST)
7. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 19:39, 7 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

Failed -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:14, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Guide:tips for survivors

Orphaned Guide. Worth putting back on the page? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:27, 1 October 2009 (BST)

For

Against

1. This one has potential; however, like the rest of his guides the material is confusing at best, and at times misleading (the part about not barricading exemplifies both these points). On top of this, the guide is formatted like a talk page and has several severe grammatcal mistakes. If someone could rewrite the list to make it neater and more readable, it could function as a nice, short tip-list.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 20:01, 1 October 2009 (BST)
2. Needs sprucing up but more importantly I think we have more than enough of these already. Rather than having a million guides that all say more or less the same thing we should be working more to expand on the ones we've already got. Cyberbob  Talk  10:21, 2 October 2009 (BST)
3. These guides are fraking awesome lol.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:19, 2 October 2009 (BST)
4. Poorly written and more of a quickly written list than a well-written guide. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 20:09, 3 October 2009 (BST)
5. Hideous. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:23, 5 October 2009 (BST)
6. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 19:39, 7 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

Failed -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:12, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Guides:Tips to survive

Orphaned Guide. Worth putting back on the page? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 19:27, 1 October 2009 (BST)

For

Against

1. Nearly identical to the above guides; exhibits the same faults and has little new information to add. Fits the A/SD crit 1 better than the guide criteria.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 20:04, 1 October 2009 (BST)
2. As above. Cyberbob  Talk  10:21, 2 October 2009 (BST)
3. WTH? Yeh, as red hawk.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 15:20, 2 October 2009 (BST)
4. Most certainly a Criterion 1 A/SD that should have been taken care of long ago. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 20:11, 3 October 2009 (BST)
5. Poor. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:22, 5 October 2009 (BST)
6. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 19:39, 7 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

Failed -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 02:12, 22 October 2009 (BST)

Starting a New Group (Survivor)

I'll move it to the correct page name if it passes, I'm really after a peer review process, so feedback please.--Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 11:49, 18 September 2009 (BST)

For

1. Wow! I didn't think there were any good articles about starting a group. Great job. Simple, elegant, useful.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 12:30, 18 September 2009 (BST)
2. Very clear-cut and sensible. I like it. 16:57, 18 September 2009 (BST)
3. On the whole, not bad. A few spelling errors, but not distracting. Bigger issue is SMART. The AR (as I knew the acronym) is either Achievable/Relevant OR Appropriate/Realistic (Note these are two ways of saying the same thing in the opposite order). Basically you are missing something that says "make sure your targets fit in with your overall plan." Good enough for a yea, but could be improved.Flammaster II 01:53, 19 September 2009 (BST)
4. As was mentioned, a few grammatical errors, but otherwise pretty good and rather useful. --Aichon 12:03, 19 September 2009 (BST)
5. Well thought out; you've obviously put a bit of effort into this. As the above two reviewers have pointed out, it has a few too many spelling and punctuation errors, but that's nothing a once-over with spellcheck can't fix. Good job!--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 01:16, 20 September 2009 (BST)
6. Couple of typos, but otherwise gives a set list of instructions that can be very helpful for newbies. I suggest putting up a small section explaining the importance of communication in a group, via radio, graffiti, wiki, forums etc. ~Dr Frank ^{(t) (DF) [P] (Sb)} 07:27, 20 September 2009 (BST)
7. I like it. It's concise, conveys the necessary information without dragging on. Could it use some polish? Sure. But definitely a guide worth keeping. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 07:25, 22 September 2009 (BST)
8. Helpful guide, and I'll disagree with Iscariot when he says there's no style. Could use a short lead-in, but other than that, it's nicely done.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 07:31, 22 September 2009 (BST)
9. Probably the first time a wiki-page has kept me interested enough to read the whole thing. --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 18:30, 27 September 2009 (BST)
10. For Can I vote? Thanks to all, I've amended a lot of the spelling, and removed one of the logical gaps Isc brought up. As usual, talk page me if you want other changes. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:03, 2 October 2009 (BST)
11. its gud Cyberbob  Talk  10:21, 2 October 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Sorry Ross, this needs a major polish. The concept is fine and your data is sound, apart from a couple of glaring logical errors, but there's no style, no lead-in, it's more a list of concepts than a coherent guide. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 01:24, 20 September 2009 (BST)
2. Only because I think there should be a quick section on metagaming and a quick run-down of how to contact your group- all you have to do is mention IRC, forum and wiki in once sentence and I'd be satisfied. At the moment it's creating the appearance that there's nothing to a successful group other than having a good in-game appearance. Putting that aside, I would have voted for, but I'm just trying to help evaluate you. Speaking of evaluating, Developing Guides, anyone? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 03:18, 25 September 2009 (BST)

Abstain

1. The page is very well written and actually provides allot of helpful tips. However, I feel the page falls short in content, there is allot more then can be said about groups in general. I'll vote for if you promise you'll expand it in the future. Becomes what you have, is excellent, I just want more!--Thadeous Oakley 23:18, 22 September 2009 (BST)

Passed with enough of a majority to be featured on the Guides page. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:37, 2 October 2009 (BST)

Guides:Harmanz

I am resubmitting this and putting it onto Template:Wiki News so it gets proper reception. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 16:44, 17 September 2009 (BST)

For

Against

1. Meh --WanYao 23:54, 16 August 2009 (BST)

   Note: This vote was the only one placed on the initial submission, and because Wan is on a 30 day requested ban, he can't resubmit a new vote like I would have preferred, so I'm keeping this on in the new tally. No reason why his should be considered illegitimate. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 16:53, 17 September 2009 (BST)

2. Woefully out of date and requiring a substantial lead in paragraph to make it understandable to the casual or newbie reader. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 16:51, 17 September 2009 (BST)
3. It's very dificult to read.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 23:13, 17 September 2009 (BST)
4. I simply don't like it all that much.--Bwii 03:07, 18 September 2009 (BST)
5. It has potential, but need to be expanded on and cleaned up a bit. The name also seems a bit misleading.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 04:00, 18 September 2009 (BST)
6. As above. It's difficult to read and doesn't help out that much. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 04:04, 18 September 2009 (BST)
7. As above. The title is misleading, it needs an update, and it could use a good powerwash. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 09:17, 18 September 2009 (BST)
8. If you are a career zombie changing sides, would it not be best to save up the xp and spend them in a big lump sum? Rather than killing zombies to get xp for combat skills? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 10:20, 18 September 2009 (BST)
9. There seems little if anything here that can't be gleaned from a starting-as-a-survivor guide, in all honesty. 16:54, 18 September 2009 (BST)
10. It seems well-intended but poorly executed. --Aichon 12:06, 19 September 2009 (BST)
11. Poor advise under "What Now" for leveling. Title is misleading.Needs to be expanded. Good rough draft to work from but it's missing a lot to be considered a Guide._♥AU10♥Pantomime _{Mistress of Pain}┌∩┐(◕‿◕)┌∩┐18:10, 22 September 2009 (BST)
12. Doesn't make any sense. Confuzed... --  ▧  ^{: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :} 18:23, 27 September 2009 (BST)
13. not gud Cyberbob  Talk  10:21, 2 October 2009 (BST)

Abstain

1. Not unhelpful, but the presentation is not that good, so I can't decide, so no vote. ~Dr Frank ^{(t) (DF) [P] (Sb)} 07:32, 20 September 2009 (BST)

Failed. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 12:36, 2 October 2009 (BST)

Guides:MalTel Technician Handbook

For

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:50, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:42, 7 August 2009 (BST)
3. --Thadeous Oakley 12:26, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. --ϑϑℜ 12:30, 9 August 2009 (BST)
5. --Orange Talk 14:08, 9 August 2009 (BST)
6. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
7. not a guide for the average survivor --WanYao 23:15, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got less then 50% support, and will thus be removed from Guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

The Burchell Arms Regulars/B.A.R Guide

For

1. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:43, 7 August 2009 (BST)
2. --Thadeous Oakley 12:27, 9 August 2009 (BST)
3. --ϑϑℜ 12:31, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. --Orange Talk 14:08, 9 August 2009 (BST)
5. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
6. It's very good, although I have reservations against group specific guides generally. One error though, 100% encumbrance doesn't equal no moving -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 23:54 11 August 2009 (BST)
7. --WanYao 23:15, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:51, 6 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got more then a 75% majority, and will thus become a featured guide. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Skill Guide

For

1. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:44, 7 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:51, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --Thadeous Oakley 12:28, 9 August 2009 (BST)
3. --ϑϑℜ 12:32, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
5. --WanYao 23:16, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got less then 50% support, and will thus be removed from Guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

A Survivor's Guide

For

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:51, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:45, 7 August 2009 (BST)
3. - I like it and it comes very close. It just lacks a couple of things about other starter info, ie the role of barricade levels and such. --ϑϑℜ 12:34, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
5. nothing special or standout --WanYao 23:17, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got less then 50% support, and will thus be removed from Guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Guides:The Worst Case Scenario Survival Guide

For

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:51, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:45, 7 August 2009 (BST)
3. I'd prefer for survivors to experience these situations without looking up a guide. No one would find themselves in either of these situations and have their first reaction be "Oh let's look up a guide to find out what to do!" --ϑϑℜ 12:38, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. Lost me at "After a good day of zombie hunting, having downed four, you walk up to your designated entry point" --xoxo 14:34, 9 August 2009 (BST)
5. All of this is written elsewhere, better (take down a barricade from EHB to VSB with 10 AP? Seriously?)--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 17:15, 9 August 2009 (BST)
6. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
7. -- Papa Jadkor ^{(RRF) (MotA) (MT11)} 06:59, 11 August 2009 (BST)
8. --WanYao 03:23, 13 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got less then 50% support, and will thus be removed from Guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Guides:Thom Flask's Super Happy Funtime Item Guide

For

1. Ahh you people have lost your way.--xoxo 14:49, 9 August 2009 (BST)
2. j'suis d'accord avec j3d, vous etes tellement perdu --WanYao 23:18, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. That's not a guide, It's a bad joke--Orange Talk 14:34, 5 August 2009 (BST)
2. As above. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:36, 5 August 2009 (BST)
3. Joining the against crowd. - User:Whitehouse 03:56, 6 August 2009 (BST)
4. --Agunin_Anoven 19:52, 6 August 2009 (BST)
5. What they said. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:46, 7 August 2009 (BST)
6. Oh my. --ϑϑℜ 12:39, 9 August 2009 (BST)
7. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got less then 50% support, and will thus be removed from Guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Giving and getting revives

For

1. --ϑϑℜ 12:40, 9 August 2009 (BST)
2. --~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 17:07, 9 August 2009 (BST)
3. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. That's pretty good. I wish more people would follow this.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 19:41, 10 August 2009 (BST)
5. -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 00:03 12 August 2009 (BST)
6. des bons conseils --WanYao 23:13, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:52, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:47, 7 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

#--WanYao 13:20, 12 August 2009 (BST) how'd that happen??? --WanYao 23:12, 12 August 2009 (BST)

This guide has got exactly a 75% majority, and will thus stay on Guides (but not become a featured guide.) Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Guides:A Guide for Doctors

For

1. Some useful tid-bits. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:49, 7 August 2009 (BST)
2. I really like it. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:55, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. Too long for such a simple strategy. Paints the picture that, for a newbie, the world is out to get them, and no guide should actively and falsely do that. --ϑϑℜ 12:44, 9 August 2009 (BST)
3. Yeh way too many words to say "Go around and FAK people".--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 19:45, 10 August 2009 (BST)
4. tl;dnr ... bad sign for a guide --WanYao 23:21, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got less then 50% support, and will thus be removed from Guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Modern Suburbia: Surviving Level One

For

1. Freaking long, but I like it. --ϑϑℜ 12:47, 9 August 2009 (BST)
2. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
3. A bit dated, but I like it. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:00, 10 August 2009 (BST)
4. Not much new info here, but it's one of the better written guides.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 19:54, 10 August 2009 (BST)
5. classic --WanYao 23:29, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:55, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:51, 7 August 2009 (BST)

Abstain

This guide has got more then a 50% majority, and will thus stay on Guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  10:27, 16 August 2009 (BST)

Guides:Trenchcoater

For

Against

1. This guide, supposedly from/for the survivor section, will not help you survive. Thus it is useless. - User:Whitehouse 04:06, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. The writer tried to be all satirical of trenchcoaters but ended up sounding schizophrenic and retarded instead.--Idly Hummingbird 04:19, 6 August 2009 (BST)
3. --Agunin_Anoven 19:55, 6 August 2009 (BST)
4. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:52, 7 August 2009 (BST)
5. Had potential but missed the mark. --ϑϑℜ 12:48, 9 August 2009 (BST)
6. I'm not sure trenchies even bother to read guides.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 17:19, 9 August 2009 (BST)
7. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
8. redundant --WanYao 23:30, 12 August 2009 (BST)

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So, ya wanna survive

For

Against

1. Was never completed. The first section is common sense, the second section just sums up three of the classes. Not much use in it's current state. - User:Whitehouse 04:02, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --Agunin_Anoven 19:54, 6 August 2009 (BST)
3. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:53, 7 August 2009 (BST)
4. Not bad, but not complete either. --ϑϑℜ 12:49, 9 August 2009 (BST)
5. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)
6. lame --WanYao 23:14, 12 August 2009 (BST)

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Prevent the up?rising

For

1. It's well written, and isn't the same as the a million other guides.--Ryvyoli ^{Y R} 05:46, 8 August 2009 (BST)
2. It offers several ways to deal with an ingame strategy from the other side, what's not to like?--xoxo 14:33, 9 August 2009 (BST)
3. Personally, I've never seen or even heard of anyone who's tried this in a while, but this seems like a fairly sound counter-strategy.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 17:10, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. Useful to avoid spamming, something we could all do without.--Degree7 22:21, 10 August 2009 (BST)
5. ces sont des conseils tres efficace. et j'aime vous deranger par tappant en francais :P --WanYao 23:27, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:54, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:54, 7 August 2009 (BST)
3. --ϑϑℜ 12:49, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

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User:Acoustic Pie/Tips

For

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:54, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. Common sense. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:55, 7 August 2009 (BST)
3. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:17, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

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1. almost useful --WanYao 03:27, 13 August 2009 (BST)

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Malton College of Medicine/textbooks

For

1. vous etes encore tellement perdu --WanYao 23:24, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:54, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. Not a guide, but a useful listing of information. Linkthewindow  Talk  21:39, 6 August 2009 (BST)
3. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:56, 7 August 2009 (BST)
4. More a portal than a guide. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:31, 9 August 2009 (BST)
5. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:The Newbie's Guide to Surviving the Apocalypse

For

1. The spelling/formatting is shitty and the guy was more paranoid about copyrighting his work than the apocalypse, but it fits my principles with simplicity and being straightforward. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:34, 9 August 2009 (BST)
2. I'm obviously for it since I wrote it. This was also an original draft and I've since made changes to it. (Not this version) I just wanted to make a survivor oriented guide that covered everything I had trouble with when I started. The spelling problems were fixed in my other version. As for formatting it wasn't originally designed for the wiki, I had written it on a forum and someone else said I should post it here. I'm definitely open to fixing it. On a last note, the copyright thing was actually a joke.--Rohndogg1 05:42, 10 August 2009 (BST)

   You had me fooled. If you continue to fix up this guide you will be legible for re-submitting it to the review process at a later date, so don't rush yourself, okay? --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 06:25, 10 August 2009 (BST)

3. --Private Mark 06:19, 10 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:54, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:57, 7 August 2009 (BST)
3. Needs a lower headings:writing ratio. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

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User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Rants

For

1. Awesome advice which isn't said enough. Short, sweet and to the point, as well. What's not to like? --WanYao 13:23, 12 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:54, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:58, 7 August 2009 (BST)
3. Gnome >=[ --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:36, 9 August 2009 (BST)
4. Hahaha Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides: So You Want To Be A Scout?

For

1. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 19:59, 7 August 2009 (BST)
2. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 14:37, 9 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Agunin_Anoven 19:54, 6 August 2009 (BST)
2. Nothing useful or entertaining here that isn't in better, more complete guides. --WanYao 13:22, 12 August 2009 (BST)

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1. Ehhhh. It's okay I suppose, a lot of its content is replicated elsewhere but it is written pretty well. I can't decide either way. Cyberbob  Talk  23:45, 9 August 2009 (BST)

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User:Grim s/Grims guide to staying alive

For

1. I don't agree with this whole guide, but it's pretty comprehensive. Also a GA. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:03, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. It's actually useful and the fact that grim firmly stamped his mark on it only makes it more entertaining. --xoxo 15:01, 30 July 2009 (BST)
3. Boring as hell and one of the few guides that would benefit from being cut in half. But I'm marginally for because there are enough good sections.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 23:55, 30 July 2009 (BST)
4. Lots of good info to have, but it could use a trimming. --Kahazul 21:32, 31 July 2009 (BST)
5. Quite possibly my favourite guide on the wiki. Comprehensive.-- Adward  14:09, 2 August 2009 (BST)
6. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

1. Use your brain or lose it. Well said.--Private Mark 20:16, 11 August 2009 (BST) _{Voting has ended.} Linkthewindow  Talk  22:26, 11 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Way way way way way too self-indulgent. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. The same as above since the guide is often self-centered around that single player. Also the writer is an asshole but that only affects the guide by 98%. Aka Paradox 22:23, 30 July 2009 (BST)
3. I voted this for GA because I found it funny and an interested read. Ironically, I couldn't vouch is as a guide. It's too long and >50% of the information is just common sense. --ϑϑℜ 03:43, 1 August 2009 (BST)
4. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
5. - Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Kill it. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 21:36 1 August 2009(BST)

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Lazy Basics

For

Against

1. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. Nothing terribly useful here.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 23:56, 30 July 2009 (BST)
3. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 01:27, 31 July 2009 (BST)
4. What they said. --Kahazul 21:32, 31 July 2009 (BST)
5. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
6. - Crap on a plate.--
   
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7. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

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Dicas Curtas

Note - the above guide is a translation of Lazy Basics into Brazilian Portuguese

For

Against

1. Pointless for the majority of readers on this English wiki. Deserves a link from Lazy Basics, however. Linkthewindow  Talk  08:03, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. As Link. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
3. ^^^ --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 23:57, 30 July 2009 (BST)
4. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
5. - Kill it.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 21:38 1 August 2009(BST)
6. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:How to defend a mall

For

Against

1. The content is okay but it could do with some sexier formatting. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. Pretty good. Not long and boring and the info is actually on target.Guides:The_Mall_Defence_Manifesto is better. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 00:10, 31 July 2009 (BST)
3. As Giles. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
4. - Junk.--
   
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5. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:Civilian

For

1. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. Elaborate description, but the cop seems to barely be mentioned, while the consumer takes most of the guide. Other than that, great.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 03:32, 1 August 2009 (BST)
3. I actually found this useful. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. - Long winded anti-RP crap. Too obvious.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 21:42 1 August 2009(BST)

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Guides:Scientist

For

1. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. --~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 03:35, 1 August 2009 (BST)
3. --T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. - As Guides:Civilian.--
   
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Guides:Military

For

1. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 01:27, 31 July 2009 (BST)
3. --User:Axe27/Sig 20:49, 31 July 2009 (BST)
4. --~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 03:35, 1 August 2009 (BST)
5. --T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
6. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. - As Guides:Scientist.--
   
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Guides:Shelter

For

Against

1. Decent, but could do with a little bit of elaboration on the Pro/Con parts.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cyberbob240 (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.
2. As Bob. Could use work. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:23, 1 August 2009 (BST)
3. - Junk.--
   
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4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:XP

For

1. --Cyberbob 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. --T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:23, 1 August 2009 (BST)
3. - Halfway useful.--
   
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4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Against

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Guides:Scouting

For

Against

1. Possibly some room for a section dealing with Ruins? --Cyberbob 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. Good guide, but what Bob suggested is blatantly lacking in the guide. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
3. - Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.--
   
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4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:The Mall Defence Manifesto

For

1. --Cyberbob 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. Needs an update for barricading change and FAK search rate nerf to malls but an excellent, well written guide.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 00:26, 31 July 2009 (BST)
3. Giles said it. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
4. A bit old, but good. Especially the checklist.--Ryvyoli ^{Y R} 03:01, 2 August 2009 (BST)
5. As Giles.-- Adward  14:10, 2 August 2009 (BST)
6. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. - Waste of space.--
   
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Guides:Lone Survivor

For

1. --Cyberbob 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. --MTRemick ^{T | C | Fey | NBC} 01:27, 31 July 2009 (BST)
3. --T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
4. The material is useful even for members of larger groups, especially when a large horde sweeps through and they need to ditch.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 02:55, 5 August 2009 (BST)
5. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

Against

1. - Obvious stuff. Unnecessary.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 21:48 1 August 2009(BST)

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Guides:Ranged vs. Melee Weapon Efficiency

For

Against

1. Needs to be dumbed down. A lot. The calculations and obscure tables should be secondary. --Cyberbob 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. WTF -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
3. - Seriously boring and thanks to the retarded RNG, not applicable.--
   
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4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)
5. zah nahbarhz harm mah brahn, graaaagh! --WanYao 23:23, 12 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:Survivor Metagame

For

1. It's brief but says what it needs to without beating around the bush. --Cyberbob 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Useless really. It's mostly common sense. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
2. - Kill the Metagame. It's for pussies and the weak minded.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 21:51 1 August 2009(BST)
3. A good idea, but the author left it a "little" too generic.--~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 02:59, 5 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:Survivor Skills

For

Against

1. --Cyberbob 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
2. Needs far too much work. In it's current state it is absolutely useless. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
3. - Horrible.--
   
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4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:01, 5 August 2009 (BST)

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Guides:The Zombie Lexicon

For

1. Helpful for anyone that is new to death rattle or can't quite figure out a word. --Papa Johnny 14:28, 15 July 2009 (BST)
2. As Johnny, but as Jed too. It needs an amended version for more day-to-day zombie words. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:30, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. Fresh. If everyone familiarized themselves with the material and had this common reference point zombie communication would be quite effective. Also i agree it could use a little facelift. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 16:28, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. I have used this so much, it's not even funny. It's incredibly useful. Did I mention it's useful? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:45, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
6. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
7. Useful --♥ Moonie ^{Talk | Testimonials} 12:25, 17 July 2009 (BST)
8. I found it very clear and useful --Supflidowg 18:57, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Scary. Who wasted their life on this crap? Would be irresponsible to encourage anyone else to waste their life reading/learning this rot.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 13:57 15 July 2009(BST)
2. While it is impressive and worth a casual read, anyone who thinks your average zombie (or even a super intelligent one) would understand half this crap is going to be wasting ap with nonsensical commands. --xoxo 14:05, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. As J3D. Would be better if a concise version were created. - User:Whitehouse 15:05, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. --ϑϑℜ 10:29, 20 July 2009 (BST)

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Guides:The Zombie Lexicon/Zombie Song Lyrics

For

Against

1. Jesus Christ, even more useless than the first Lexicon. Seriously, people, go outside once and awhile.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:00 15 July 2009(BST)
2. Fun, but ultimate pointless. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:31, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. Doesn't really help the reader much. - User:Whitehouse 15:09, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. It's hilarious and I'd love to give a link to "have a good time" by queen. More of a humorous article than a guide though.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 16:29, 15 July 2009 (BST)
6. Humorous, not really a guide-guide. Well, maybe for RPing. A little. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
7. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
8. Good, as a subpage of zombie lexicon --♥ Moonie ^{Talk | Testimonials} 12:25, 17 July 2009 (BST)
9. --ϑϑℜ 10:29, 20 July 2009 (BST)

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Guides:Fast Zombie Builds

For

Against

1. Good God, some of you really know how to suck the life out of ANYTHING. Play a game, don't follow boring, dry formulas. Fuck's sake.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:06 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. Shitty build path IMO. --Papa Johnny 14:55, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. Most of the info here is also present in Guides:Zombie. And the section on starting as a human isn't very comprehensive. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:17, 16 July 2009 (BST)
6. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
7. --ϑϑℜ 10:30, 20 July 2009 (BST)

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Guides:Zombie Metagame

For

1. Keep, but needs expansion. Also, I don't quite get what Zombie Lord's got against the metagame. It's what turns UD from just another random browser game to having an active, organized community. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:33, 15 July 2009 (BST)
2. Short, sweet and to the point.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:22, 16 July 2009 (BST)
3. --ϑϑℜ 10:32, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Kill this weak-minded play-style with fire! Up with individual zombie power, down with the fuckin lame ass HIVE MIND! --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:10 15 July 2009(BST)
2. Unless the article gets revised to reflect the current meta community better (barhah.com being the main hub for most zombie groups) and removing most the the last half of the article, I don't see much value in this rather outdated article. --Papa Johnny 14:36, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)

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X:00

For

1. I've always liked groups/guides/ideas that think outside the UD box.--xoxo 12:32, 15 July 2009 (BST)
2. As Jed. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:14, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. Good article, current activities needs revision to remove MT'07 as being "current." --Papa Johnny 14:38, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. A helpful article. Good idea too. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
6. One of the better tactics out there and a well written guide explaining that tactic. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:23, 16 July 2009 (BST)
7. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
8. I think this is one of the better tactics on this wiki -- Cwissball ^PKer / Cwissb ^{Dual Nature} 00:01, 17 July 2009 (BST)
9. --♥ Moonie ^{Talk | Testimonials} 12:25, 17 July 2009 (BST)
10. The useful part of Swier's legacy lives on. --ϑϑℜ 10:32, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Meh. This is ok, I suppose, considering the game rules are so broken right now. The need for Tactics like this are part of what's wrong with the "game".--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:13 15 July 2009(BST)

91%. This page will become a Featured Guide. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

User:Siddhant/Guide:The Zombie Returns

For

Against

1. Another shitty formula guide. Why even play a game if you're going to do this? --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:15 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. This is actually a very well considered article. I like the mention of junkyard and church selection and the emphasis on upgrading claw attacks. However it falls a little short as a complete guide on a very broad subject. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:38, 16 July 2009 (BST)
5. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
6. I was going to vote yes on this for a joke but it was just way too shit. --ϑϑℜ 10:34, 20 July 2009 (BST)

0%. This page will be removed from Guides. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Pillaging

For

1. Not a bad general zambah guide. --Papa Johnny 14:46, 15 July 2009 (BST)
2. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. About as good as Guides:Zombie with some alternate considerations such as when to use feeding groan. Good reading. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:43, 16 July 2009 (BST)
4. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
5. --ϑϑℜ 10:35, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. More formula/Metagaming bullshit. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:17 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)

71%. This page will remain on Guides article. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Guides: The Zombie Vulture

For

Against

1. Sigh. More formula crap. What happened to imagination? Video Games kill it all? I weep for this generation. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:19 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. An interesting idea but it feels incomplete. I'd like to see a more thorough and fully realized evaluation of leeching off of higher level zombies. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:44, 16 July 2009 (BST)
5. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)

0%. This page will be removed from Guides. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Annoy the Harmanz

For

1. General advice. Not too horrible. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:21 15 July 2009(BST)

Against

1. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
2. Basically just gives a brief summary of how this one person likes to play the game. Not terribly useful as such.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:49, 16 July 2009 (BST)
3. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
4. As Giles, it does have some good points, however. Linkthewindow  Talk  09:41, 16 July 2009 (BST)
5. General advice. Horrible. --ϑϑℜ 10:37, 20 July 2009 (BST)

16%. This article will be removed from Guides page. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

How to win Mall Siege (Zombie)

For

Against

1. Pretty obvious stuff. Not really guide worthy. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:23 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. A pretty piss poor guide for mall sieges. --Papa Johnny 15:02, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. Yeh this just isn't detailed enough to be a guide.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:51, 16 July 2009 (BST)
6. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
7. These guides just get shitter and shitter. --ϑϑℜ 10:41, 20 July 2009 (BST)

0%. This page will be removed from Guides. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

A Quick Zombie Guide

For

Against

1. Lame. Kill it. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:24 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. Terrible guide. --Papa Johnny 15:03, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
5. It's not detailed enough to be useful.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 03:52, 16 July 2009 (BST)
6. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
7. --ϑϑℜ 10:41, 20 July 2009 (BST)

0%. This page will be removed from Guides. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Selective Targeting

For

1. A good start for the article, but it definitely needs to be properly expanded on. I might do that later if I get around to it. --Papa Johnny 14:57, 15 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Kill with fire. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:25 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. Expand it, and then re-submit it for review. :P --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. As Papa Johnny and BobBoberton.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 06:43, 16 July 2009 (BST)
5. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)

17%. This page will be removed from Guides. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Claw for Grasp, Bite for Threes

For

1. Not bad. --Papa Johnny 15:00, 15 July 2009 (BST)
2. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
4. Swing vote--Bonghit420 07:20, 17 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. In the real world, math wins. But this is Urban Dead with its lame ass broken RNG. While this would totally make sense with a real numbers generator, it's worthless as far as it "applies" to UD's RNG. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:28 15 July 2009(BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. A very nice idea and well reasoned update, but it feels like this could be folded into the beyond average damage guide.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 06:45, 16 July 2009 (BST)

57%. This page will remain on Guides. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Getting Started as a Feral Zombie

For

1. Not horrible. Needs updating. Best guide in the whole lot so far for this go around. (That's not saying much though) --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:31 15 July 2009(BST)
2. I'd love to vote against this just because you are being so obnoxious ZL, but it really is an excellent guide. Needs a tiny update because of new diagnosis abilities.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 06:48, 16 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. The only one ZL voted for. ;)--xoxo 14:36, 15 July 2009 (BST)
2. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
3. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. --Cyberbob 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)

33%. This page will be removed from Guides. --ϑϑℜ 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:Zombie

A guide to playing as a zombie. - User:Whitehouse 02:39, 8 July 2009 (BST)

For

1. --Cyberbob 02:15, 9 July 2009 (BST)
2. --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:18, 9 July 2009 (BST)
3. --legit --Bonghit420 02:19, 9 July 2009 (BST)
4. This is a solid, well written guide. Quite useful and it covers a lot.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 20:39, 9 July 2009 (BST)
5. Is gewd, --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}07:23, 10 July 2009 (BST)
6. Comprehensive, informative, accurate. Thumbs up. --WanYao 17:39, 10 July 2009 (BST)
7. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
8. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
9. --Orange Talk 16:24, 18 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Another dry, boring ass, point squeezing, life draining, zero imagination, piece of shit formula guide. Terminate with extreme prejudice. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:36 15 July 2009(BST)

This guide has gained more then 75% support and will thus be placed on the featured guides section on guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  02:15, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:Corpse

A survival guide for Corpse characters. - User:Whitehouse 02:39, 8 July 2009 (BST)

For

1. Half good. Half formula shit-fest. Better than the Zombie one. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:37 15 July 2009(BST)

Against

1. Redundant. The Zombie one is better. --Cyberbob 02:15, 9 July 2009 (BST)
2. --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:18, 9 July 2009 (BST)
3. --i did not like it.--Bonghit420 02:23, 9 July 2009 (BST).
4. It's a nice guide, though a virtual clone of Guides:Zombie --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 20:43, 9 July 2009 (BST)
5. Lousy --WanYao 17:38, 10 July 2009 (BST)
6. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
7. As bob. --Papa Johnny 15:10, 15 July 2009 (BST)
8. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)

This guide has gained less then 50% support and will thus be removed from guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  02:15, 20 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:Career Zombie

A guide to zombie tactics/playing-styles. - User:Whitehouse 02:39, 8 July 2009 (BST)

For

1. Again, slightly redundant but the number crunching is nice.--Cyberbob 02:15, 9 July 2009 (BST)
2. --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:18, 9 July 2009 (BST)
3. Another half good/half shit guide. 51% not shit. --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:40 15 July 2009(BST)

Against

1. Guides:Beyond average damage covers the numbers, Guides:Zombie covers the rest, and I wonder about the validity of a "chaser" zombie when few attacks happen in real time. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 20:46, 9 July 2009 (BST)
2. Like the other zambah guide which I just voted against, this gives weird and in places very inaccurate advice. For example: "So Hording at low levels is pretty much irrelevant. It's nice to have company though." Uhmmmmm... No. If you're a babah the first thing you should do is join a good horde. --WanYao 17:43, 10 July 2009 (BST)
3. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
4. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)

This guide has gained less then 50% support and will thus be removed from guides. Linkthewindow  Talk  02:15, 20 July 2009 (BST)

P.I.S.I.T.

I wrote it in order to see if I could get some of the trenchies to stop being unco-operative douches and help out, instead of ignoring everyone and just killing all the zombies, over and over. --Blake Firedancer ^{T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T.} 14:36, 8 July 2009 (BST)

For

Against

1. It's literally telling people to do the same things as any regular survivor's guide. --Cyberbob 02:15, 9 July 2009 (BST)
2. --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:18, 9 July 2009 (BST)
3. As cyberbob. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 20:47, 9 July 2009 (BST)
4. No real trenchcoater considers himself a trenchcoater. Nor do they read guides. And, finally, as cyberbob. --WanYao 17:45, 10 July 2009 (BST)
5. Oh, just fuckin KILL IT! --
   
   | T | BALLS! | 14:42 15 July 2009(BST)
6. -- T^HEL^ORDG^UNS^LINGER 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
7. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)

This guide has not reached the required level of support and will thus be removed from Guides in the upcoming clearout. Sorry. Linkthewindow  Talk  14:25, 19 July 2009 (BST)

Hiding In Plain Sight

Think outside the barricade. --WanYao 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)

For

1. Sgood.--xoxo 09:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
2. Bit long, but full of logic -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:37 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. One of the guides that I think contains some useful information and doesn't hurt my head to read. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 07:20, 1 July 2009 (BST)
4. I like it! Just... don't let zombies see this guide, okay? ;) --Desyana 08:42, 1 July 2009 (BST)
5. As Boxy. It's good. Linkthewindow  Talk  13:04, 1 July 2009 (BST)
6. It works, trust me. --Supflidowg 16:52, 3 July 2009 (BST)
7. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:26, 4 July 2009 (BST)
8. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
9. What Desyana said :D --Fiffy ^{404 ♥ OBR ♥ RRF} 06:53, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Way to long for something that is just 'Hide in ruins and then after that, use common sense'. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Italics would have been more appropriate.--xoxo 12:04, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Part of the reason it's long is because when I wrote it, there was a lot of opposition to the concept. People said it was madness, suicide -- or worse. Most were scared to give it a try. People were asking for detailed instructions... It had to be very detailed to get people to try it, to overcome their resistance. That, and the fact that I like to hear myself talk, of course... :) --WanYao 13:12, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   All i said was that italics would have been more appropriate, and it wasn't even directed at you. That response is entirely nonsensical and has left me very, very confused. If you remove a colon after i have made this post it will be vandalism as per precedent. --xoxo 13:24, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Go back to making crop circles, you discombobulated marsupial, you. --WanYao 13:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Just remember that you come to me for formatting help >=] D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 13:54, 30 June 2009 (BST)

2. Well written but Rat Tactics manages to say more in fewer words. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 21:11, 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 07:20, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 9 For and 3 Against this Guide has passed community review with more than 50% support and will remain on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Rat Tactics

Quick, dirty, effective. --WanYao 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)

For

1. --WanYao 07:50, 30 June 2009 (BST)
2. I don't think it's featured guide worthy, but I can easily vouch for its goodness. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. But why are those alliance/group categories on the page? -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:35 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Because it was written by and to a degree for Octapopers and they are part of the SW Alliance? --WanYao 13:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)

4. It's clear and to the point. Charming and relevant to survivors when a horde rolls through the suburb. Could use an update about hiding in darkened buildings. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 21:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. If it works, use it --Supflidowg 16:56, 3 July 2009 (BST)
6. I'm a dirty rat --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:27, 4 July 2009 (BST)
7. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 07:19, 1 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 7 For and 1 Against this guide has passed community review with more than 75% support and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms

Guide relating to some Urban Dead - related slang.

For

1. - The only useful thing gaylim's ever made ;) D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)

   I'll point you in the direction of this guide.--Nallan (Talk) 10:09, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   You didn't write that, I could tell cause theres no ugly ALIM bar on the top. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Then it's doing its job nicely.--Nallan (Talk) 10:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   I actually have absolutely no idea about what you mean here. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Oh sorry I was talking about how effective the ALiM navbar is at illustrating whether or not a page has been or is a project of my group. Pages that bear the navbar are more than likely 2 Cool projects whilst pages not bearing the navbar are more than likely not.--Nallan (Talk) 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   kkk D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Also he was telling you to keep a civil tongue. ALiM created you, it can just as easily destroy you.--xoxo 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Don't you dare say such untruth. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:18, 4 July 2009 (BST)

2. As above Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. - The sheer size and detail of this article should be merit enough. Also it's funny. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)
4. As Giles. --D.E.ATalk 17:07, 29 June 2009 (BST)
5. - Funny, useful, it's good.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
6. - As above. --Private Mark 00:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
7. I'm fond of this one.--Nallan (Talk) 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
8. Pity it got put in a group subpage location, and was defaced with the irrelevant ALiM "definition" and eyesore of a navbar -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:33 30 June 2009 (BST)

   That definition was substantially reduced following a scruple with bobby. It used to be a synonym for cool, for some it still is.--xoxo 12:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)

9. Recognizes the difference between a noob and a newb, which is important. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:49, 1 July 2009 (BST)
10. ...useful --Supflidowg 17:06, 3 July 2009 (BST)
11. I'd never vote against a ALiM --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:29, 4 July 2009 (BST)

    *an --xoxo 14:39, 7 July 2009 (BST)

12. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Incomplete. Amend it and I'll vote keep --WanYao 07:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   I'm intrigued, what do you think it needs more of? --xoxo 09:17, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   More T&A! ... erm ... letters, acronyms and jargon. --WanYao 13:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Time and attendance? --xoxo 13:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Abstain

1. - It's not really a guide so much as a useful list of commonly used terms. Knowing any of the terms in the guide don't necessarily make you any more prepared to play UD. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 21:45, 3 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 12 For, 1 Against and 1 Abstain this Guide has passed community review with more than 75% support and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms/Suburb Nicknames

As above

For

1. 'Be a local anywhere in Malton'™ --xoxo 13:14, 29 June 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Useless as a guide. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. Funny, but not a guide. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. Anal sex --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 14:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
4. I'm voting against because the Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms is a more useful starting page and the template includes links to all the other relevant information. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:31, 29 June 2009 (BST)
5. It's a wee bit useless as a guide.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
6. Awesome, but not a guide. --WanYao 07:43, 30 June 2009 (BST)
7. Not amused.--Bonghit420 09:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
8. Limited real information... or humor, value -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:31 30 June 2009 (BST)

   but its got the naavbaaarrrrr......--xoxo 13:26, 30 June 2009 (BST)

9. As WanYao--Orange Talk 23:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
10. Apart from now. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:30, 4 July 2009 (BST)
11. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 1 For and 11 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with 50% or less support and will be removed from Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:First Day in Malton

Collection of information that's relevant to newer players

For

1. - It's a GA, enough said. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. One of the better gameplay guides out there. It was useful to me when starting out. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:05, 29 June 2009 (BST)
4. - Excellent guide, recommended.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
5. - But of course. --Private Mark 00:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)
6. - Short, sweet and not dated. --WanYao 07:28, 30 June 2009 (BST)
7. - Very helpful. --D.E.ATalk 12:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
8. Now this is a beginners guide -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:27 30 June 2009 (BST)
9. - It was very helpful to me once and I regularly recommend it to new players. Jimaine Dunwich 16:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)
10. - A very good guide --Supflidowg 17:14, 3 July 2009 (BST)
11. - Great for new folks. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 21:42, 3 July 2009 (BST)
12. As bonghit --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:30, 4 July 2009 (BST)
13. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. but it is nice if you want to use it.--Bonghit420 18:13, 29 June 2009 (BST)

   Hence its usefulness as a guide, people that need help look for it and find it here. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 16:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   I was voting on its merit, starting as a zombie, you MUST follow the groan you first here on your first day in Malton, There could be a chance of the doors being closed, The guide is not fully complete, therefor it should not be presented ahead of somthing that could be better.--Bonghit420 00:16, 8 July 2009 (BST)

2. Survivor biased crap. One third of the minuscule space provided for Zombies is actually about how to become a Survivor again?! Garbage Guide.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 00:41 8 July 2009

Voting closed - With 13 For and 2 Against this Guide has passed community review with more than 75% support and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead

As above

For

1. It's a detailed guide but it has become dated (doesn't include any information about ruin). Also it should be renamed "A Beginning Survivor's Guide to Urban Dead". With a few small changes it would be totally boss. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:09, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. As Giles - It's a bit outdated, but with some touching up should be great. It just needs some updating. Besides that, it's fine.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. Good guide, but yeah, could do with some updating. --D.E.ATalk 12:03, 30 June 2009 (BST)
4. I'm all for it, but it's my guide. Thanks be to whomever nominated it. Like DDR states below, it's a great portal for all the new comers. What those below are missing is the fact that that was what it was supposed to be: a one stop shopper; so to speak... -Poodle of doom 23:07, 3 July 2009 (BST)
5. Needs updated, but still better than that stupidly biased "First Day in Malton" Guide.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 00:51 8 July 2009

Against

1. I say make an entirely new one. --Haliman - Talk 02:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
2. Appears to be kind of a compilation of the various wiki entries. Offers no real insight into playing that isn't found elsewhere. --WanYao 07:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. Far too long, invoking the TL;DR syndrome in newbs. Most of it looks like straight cut'n'pastes from other pages. The effort needs to be put in tailoring this info so that the main points are explained with links to the in depth look at each section that are already elsewhere on the wiki -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:24 30 June 2009 (BST)
4. It's a nice portal for all the newbie info, but for that reason, it is daunting and I expect noobs to be able to just search for this info themselves (the parts they specifically want, anyway). D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. I'd prefer we have fewer guides and consolidate all info in one place. I like the above Guide better. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 5 For and 5 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with 50% or less support and will be removed from Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:So you're on the wrong side

Relating to changing sides (ie: getting a revive, or window diving.)

For

1. Sure, it's short, but it covers an aspect which new players will want to find help on quickly, so it gets a For from me.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. As Drawde --WanYao 07:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. I do like this, it's straight to the point and accurately covers necessary steps to achieve the desired goal. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:51, 30 June 2009 (BST)
4. Needs to be said -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:20 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Useful but it's so short it feels like it should be an addendum or subsection of a more extensive guides above, such as "first day in malton". Maybe this could be included in another guide.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:12, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. - I'm actually with Giles on this one. Add it as another section in the First Day in Malton guide and credit both authors. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 21:44, 3 July 2009 (BST)
3. Add it to a real guide.--
   
   | T | BALLS! | 00:53 8 July 2009

Abstain

1. Throw this info into the newbies guide to malton and the playing as a zombie guide. Or keep it, i'm not that fussed.--xoxo 17:22, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. --Bonghit420 17:56, 29 June 2009 (BST)

   loooooooooooooooooooooooool.--xoxo 18:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)

   haha, i ment to put against but whatever.--Bonghit420 18:08, 29 June 2009 (BST)

   s'all good. --xoxo 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 5 For, 3 Against and 2 Abstain this Guide has passed community review with more than 50% support and will remain on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:Beyond average damage

Guide relating to thinking about combat more tactically

For

1. Introduces and explains some useful ideas. As an older guide it doesn't include information on darkened buildings or the flare gun/fuel can combo attack. Nothing a little updated section can't fix. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:18, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. Excellent for basic combat, just needs slight updating.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. As above --WanYao 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
4. Needs an update but it's a well researched and written guide.--Nallan (Talk) 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. I found it useful as a newb -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:19 30 June 2009 (BST)
6. - For those players looking for the crunch and nitty-gritty details on combat, this guide is well researched and explained. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 21:48, 3 July 2009 (BST)
7. Excellent --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:31, 4 July 2009 (BST)
8. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

Voting closed - With 8 For and 0 Against this Guide has passed community review with more than 75% support and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Making a Successful group

Guide relating to diplomacy and making a group

For

Against

1. --Bonghit420 09:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. It's ironic because the person who made it never made a successful group. --Sonny Corleone ^{DORIS I jizzed in my pants pr0n} 14:47, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. that guide is fucking awful. Not 2 Cool at all.--xoxo 15:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)
4. Like many guides advertised to be for both sides this one really only applies to survivors. And it's not very thorough. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:20, 29 June 2009 (BST)
5. No fucking way.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
6. As my last vote. Make a new guide, and add successful group leader testimonials. --Haliman - Talk 02:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   but who will write the testimonial for Malton's most notoriously successful group??--xoxo 14:49, 7 July 2009 (BST)

7. Useless --WanYao 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
8. As Haliman. --D.E.ATalk 12:10, 30 June 2009 (BST)
9. Worst. Guide. Ever. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Yeah. It looks more like a "How to make a successful group in 5 easy steps" program rather than a guide. No wonder it fails. --D.E.ATalk 17:06, 30 June 2009 (BST)

10. As haliman--Orange Talk 23:17, 30 June 2009 (BST)
11. - One or two decent points does not save this guide. I fully support Haliman's idea of a new guide with testimonials. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 21:53, 3 July 2009 (BST)
12. I'm more than happy to completely rewrite this. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:32, 4 July 2009 (BST)
13. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 0 For and 13 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with 50% or less support and will be removed from Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:19, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guide: Zoe Gorefest's Guide for The Career PKer

Guide relating to player killing

For

1. Well - written, and the images complement the guide nicely. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. It could use additional info on darkened buildings (many PKers hide there now) but an overall excellent article. Also I think the Fallout images should be removed. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:23, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. Hell yes-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
4. As Drawde --WanYao 07:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. As Link. --D.E.ATalk 12:15, 30 June 2009 (BST)
6. Still relevant, even though it's author is a long time inactive -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:17 30 June 2009 (BST)
7. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
8. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:44, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Against

Voting closed - With 8 For and 0 Against this Guide has passed community review with more than 75% support and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:19, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:Real-Time Fighting

Guide about fighting in real time

For

1. It had to be addressed somewhere. Again, like all of the old guides there needs to be an update on fighting in darkened buildings, but good nonetheless. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:36, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. Good guide, as Giles.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. As Giles. --Private Mark 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
4. As above --WanYao 07:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. Me likey.--Nallan (Talk) 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
6. Good guide and very useful, especially to the groups out there who prefer using real-time tactics. --D.E.ATalk 12:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
7. - As above. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 21:56, 3 July 2009 (BST)
8. As Maverick --Brian ^{Talk to me} 13:21, 4 July 2009 (BST)
9. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. The only practical reason for a survivor to participate in a R/T fight is when defending a building, and this doesn't cover that, at all. And a zombie in a R/T fight is at a real disadvantage (unless the survivor has something to stay and fight for) because he can't follow inside usually -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:14 30 June 2009 (BST)
2. Why participate in real-time fighting outside? If you are XPing, then use your AP killing said opponent till you have no AP/HP then go inside. As zombie, stand there attacking. Otherwise, don't do it. Simple. That's my outisde RT fighting guide. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 9 For and 2 Against this Guide has passed community review with more than 75% support and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:19, 8 July 2009 (BST)

The right build for you

Guide about character builds

For

1. Good article. --WanYao 07:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)
2. I do like this. Simply and to the point. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Against

1. This is actually a pretty good article. But the same info is organized in greater detail in Guides:Meta-Careers.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 06:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   You are against an article because there is a different guide which you think is better? D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   "You are against an article because there is a different guide (covering the same subject) which you think is better?" Yes. Why feature multiple articles on the same subject laying out the same info over and over again? Choose the best and go with it.--_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 21:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   #New guide. --Haliman - Talk 02:33, 30 June 2009 (BST) - Nevermind. Guides:Meta-Careers --Haliman - Talk 02:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)

2. Doesn't explain/compare the differences between pure killing, and FAKing up. This isn't giving alternative builds, it's telling you what build this guy thinks is best, a private using firearms (and if you don't choose that, then how to make your choice into a firearm specialist) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:08 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 2 For and 3 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with 50% or less support and will be removed from Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:12, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guide:Siege PKer Guide

Relating to player killing in a siege

For

1. The QSG has a clue. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. Fresh. Also the "false infection > kill" section is devious. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:34, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. Yep.-- Adward  18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
4. scrap everything else, this is the only one you need.--Bonghit420 18:15, 29 June 2009 (BST)
5. A classic. Required reading. --WanYao 07:36, 30 June 2009 (BST)
6. This is the shiz-nit. ----Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}08:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
7. Good -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:57 30 June 2009 (BST)
8. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 14:44, 4 July 2009 (BST)
9. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

Voting Closed - With 9 For and 0 Against this Guide has passed community review with more than 75% support and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:06, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Urban Dead Guide

Another more general guide

For

Against

1. The author was a tad clueless, and the guide isn't well - written. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. It contains the same info as Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead only less detailed. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. useless --WanYao 07:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)
4. As WanYao. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Voting closed - With 0 For and 4 Against this guide has failed to pass community review with 50% or less support and will be be removed from Guides. - User:Whitehouse 01:02, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Civility

Guide about acting nicely towards other people

For

1. Needed, and a must-read for those who take the game far too seriously. Linkthewindow  Talk  07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. Well it's funny, relevant, and it applies to both sides of the game. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
3. Will always be relevant.-- Adward  18:11, 29 June 2009 (BST)
4. Always. --Private Mark 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. As Drawde. --D.E.ATalk 12:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)
6. Allot of people ought to read it.--Thadeous Oakley 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
7. Needed for certain people --Imthatguy 06:22, 7 July 2009 (BST)

   HEH HEH SUBTLE --Cyberbob 06:22, 7 July 2009 (BST)

8. Some people need to remember civility..so is a good guide--(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 14:28, 7 July 2009 See DDR's talk page for proof of meatpuppeting.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 22:37, 7 July 2009 (BST)

   Unstruck, there are no rules for meatpuppeting. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:50, 7 July 2009 (BST)

   So bob" you are saing i am a pupet? how old are you?please have respect for other opinions kid..thanks. --(x)Alvaromesa^{Talk | Bacardi |MPD | Malton Public Radio} 23:15, 7 July 2009 (BST)

   If you'd notice, bob isn't the one signing the strike there. Now I'd appreciate if you'd quit calling me "bob", because I am not him. "Kid".--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 23:20, 7 July 2009 (BST)

9. I like it, it's funny. - User:Whitehouse 19:28, 7 July 2009 (BST)
10. Guide enough. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:25, 7 July 2009 (BST)
11. I think its a very effective guide. --^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:04, 7 July 2009 (BST) See DDR's talk page for proof of meatpuppeting.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 22:37, 7 July 2009 (BST)

I am not Meatpupperting, i can vote for whatever i want, Giles did not "shoot me a link" I found this though the recent changes.--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:47, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. Fuck no--Bonghit420 18:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)

   This should be common since. No guide needed for this, just avoid people who act like this.--Bonghit420 18:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)

2. Meh. I hate being told how express myself in such rigid terms. I also don't agree with many of the examples, anyway --WanYao 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. Some of Malton's most notorious groups lack civility.--xoxo 09:20, 30 June 2009 (BST)

   Me, me, me... -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)

4. Not a guide. Civility isn't a necessary part of the game, but a policy that players can either choose to either follow or ignore -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)
5. Text rape RULES!--Orange Talk 23:19, 30 June 2009 (BST)
6. I love this page so much but I have to agree with the againsts. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:09, 4 July 2009 (BST)
7. Civility is not prerequisite, especially in an RPG. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
8. stupid dross --Cyberbob 05:19, 7 July 2009 (BST)
9. Civility? Ha.--Lolwat64 23:06, 7 July 2009 (BST)

   Certified sockpuppet (Not meatpuppet). This is his first contribution.--Thadeous Oakley 23:09, 7 July 2009 (BST)

   Just leave it be, this has caused enough trouble all ready. --^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:11, 7 July 2009 (BST)

10. nay --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 23:24, 7 July 2009 (BST)
11. Worthless.--
    
    | T | BALLS! | 23:27 7 July 2009

• Voting closed With 11 For and 11 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with 50% or less support and will be removed from Guides. User:Whitehouse 00:58, 8 July 2009 (BST)

  Do ho ho.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 01:01, 8 July 2009 (BST)

Guides:Meta-Careers

About the role one plays within the game.

For

1. An obsessively organized analysis of the different career paths. I'm not sure it's useful to new players but it's just loaded with info. --_GANG Giles Sednik _CAPD 17:42, 29 June 2009 (BST)
2. Yup --WanYao 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
3. Its useful for group building and for organizing your group --Supflidowg 17:41, 3 July 2009 (BST)
4. - Definitely a keeper. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 22:04, 3 July 2009 (BST)
5. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)

Against

1. I just don't think this guide teaches anyone anything of value. --xoxo 09:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)
2. The Zombie bit is cool but the Survivor bit is a little silly, it should really be a third the size, at leased. It's teaching survivors that there are many careers, 75% of which are boring and uninspiring. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)

Abstain

1. As DDR, but abstain. The survivor part needs to be simplified. Linkthewindow  Talk  03:30, 2 July 2009 (BST)

• Voting Closed With 5 For, 2 Against and 1 Abstain this Guide has passed community review with more than 50% support and will remain on Guides. - User:Whitehouse 00:55, 8 July 2009 (BST)