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This page is for the request of page deletions within the Urban Dead wiki. Due to concerns about loss of data, the ability to delete pages is restricted to system operators. As such, regular users will need to request a deletion from the system operators. For consistency and accountability, system operators also adhere to the guidelines listed here.

Guidelines for Deletion Requests

All Deletion Requests must contain the following information in order to be considered:

• A link to the page in question. Preferably bolded for visibility. Note that Category and Image links need a colon at the front to turn them into links (ie [[:Category:Category]] and [[:Image:Image.jpg]]).
• A reason for deletion. This should be short and to the point.
• A signed datestamp. This can be easily done by adding ~~~~ to the end of your request.

In addition to placing a request on this page, please place the {{delete}} tag on the top of the page that is being recommended for deletion. Please make sure that the original content remains on the page, so that others can judge whether the page is worthy of deletion.

Any deletion request that does not contain these three pieces of information will not be considered, and will be removed by a system operator.

Once the deletion request has been entered, the request shall remain on this page, where it will be voted on for a period of two (2) weeks, as judged by the initial datestamp. At the conclusion of this two weeks, the appropriate action will be taken by a system operator, and at the end of that day the request will be moved into the Archive.

Certain types of pages may be better being scheduled for deletion in order to reduce the amount of red tape and stop this page getting too cluttered. To lodge a request for scheduled deletions, go to UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling.

Deletion of pages that match a certain criteria may be better serviced by a request for a Speedy Deletion. Speedy Deletions are for removal of pages that are clearly of no value to the wiki, and do not incur the two week voting requirement. Speedy Deletion requests can be lodged at UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions.

Speedy Deletion Eligibility

To be eligible for a Speedy Deletion Request, the page must fall under at least one of the following criteria:

1. No Content: The page contains no more than a line or two of content that cannot clearly be expanded, consists of random or incoherent content, or is duplicated elsewhere to no purpose.
2. Off-Topic: The page is a clearly off-topic page.
3. Unused Redirect: The page is an unused or underused (ie, only 1-2 pages using the link) redirect.
4. Empty Category: The page is a Category page that has no entries within it.
5. Missed Talk Page: The page is a Talk: Page from a previous deletion request that has not been deleted with the request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so)

   As of 19 May 2010, Crit 5 is now a scheduled deletion.

6. Deletion Workaround: The page is a duplicate of a page that has been deleted from a previous deletion request (please note the relevant deletion request if this is so). A page that fits this criterion is immediately qualified for deletion without requiring it be nominated on the 'Speedy Deletions' page. Recreating a page that fits this criterion will get you a polite message to stop doing so. Any further infractions of this nature will qualify as vandalism and will be treated as such. Note that criterion 6 does not apply when the page has been restored through Undeletions.
7. Author Edit Only: The page has been requested for speedy deletion by the original author, and has been edited only by its author. Note that edits by adbots or vandals and reverts caused by them do not count.
8. User Page: The page is a User subpage that has been requested for speedy deletion by the original author.
9. Personal Page (Prefix Rule): The page is named after a user without the "User:" or "Journal:" prefixes and its content has been moved to the appropriate User or Journal page. Includes pages that should be User subpages, ie. in-game characters.

   As of 2011, August 29, Crit 9 is now a scheduled deletion.

10. Unused Template: The page is a template that has existed for at least one week and is currently unused within the wiki.
11. Non-existent User Page: The page is a User: page for a user that doesn't exist, and any content on the page has been moved to the appropriate User: or Journal: page.

    As of 20 June 2009, Crit 11 is now a scheduled deletion.

12. Defunct group page: The page is a non-historical group page, it is over two months old, it has not had an update in a month, and is not on the stats page. Such pages will remain in the queue for 5 days to determine their defunct status has been correctly identified. Due to the large number of pages that fit into this criterion, please {{speedydelete12}} on the pages to ensure that they are categorized differently from normal speedy deletion requests.

    As of 2007, September 16, this is no longer a valid criterion.

13. Missed sub-page: The page is a sub-page from a previous deletion request that has not been deleted with the request, and that serves no individual purpose (please note the relevant deletion request).

A page may also fall under a scheduled deletion and should be posted here if it is missed by the sysops.

Guidelines for Voting on Deletion Requests

• One vote per user.
• Voting should take place underneath the request, and each vote should be started with a # with no empty lines inbetween votes.
• There are four vote types:
  • Delete. For agreement with the deletion request
  • Merge. For indication that the content on the page should be merged with another page (includes an implicit Delete).
  • Speedy Delete. For indication that the page meets one of the Speedy Deletions Criteria (includes an implicit Delete).
  • Keep. For disagreement with the deletion request.

• The specific vote keyword should be bolded within the lodged vote. Any relevant comments are also allowed, but these should not be bolded.
• At least one Delete vote must be entered by the deadline in order for a page to be deleted. System operators may not use their own vote after the deadline to delete a page.
• If more Delete votes are entered than Keep votes, the page will be deleted. In any other circumstance, the page is kept.
• If 3 Speedy Deletes are lodged, and there are no Keep Votes, the page will be deleted as per Speedy Deletions.

Deletion Queue

User:Rosslessness/Battle of Tebbett

Worth keeping, or worthless comedy article? --Ross^lessness 17:33, 31 May 2012 (BST)

1. Delete - Its funny, but with its counterpart page deleted, it loses much of its context. Plus I think everyone's over Corn again now. ~ _{00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)}
2. Keep - Anything even barely funny should be kept if it's in user namespace. If it was mainspace I'd say delete it, but as it's in your user space it's doing no harm.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:28, 1 June 2012 (BST)
3. Keep --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:59, 1 June 2012 (BST)

User Hub

Massively out of date, and probably never used.

1. Delete --Ross^lessness 17:26, 31 May 2012 (BST)
2. Delete - Unless there's interest in updating it, in which case I'll consider changing my vote. I used to prune it, but enough people yelled at me over pruning it that I eventually stopped bothering with it altogether. I'd love to see it pruned and made useful again. —Aichon— 17:37, 31 May 2012 (BST)
3. Keep - Something being massively out of date and unused implies making it up to date and usable, unless making it so isn't doable. We should and would delete many wiki pages that are out of date and unused by the deletion request's argument–e.g. most location pages, and CP. (Technical Help would be a better example for deletion.) --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:26, 31 May 2012 (BST)
4. Keep - As Gnome. ~ _{00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)}
5. Keep - But maybe it could be good to no longer link it from the sidebar until it's up to date, if possible. If it fulfils some degree of utility I'm happy with keeping it around.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:30, 1 June 2012 (BST)
6. Keep --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 01:59, 1 June 2012 (BST)
7. Delete - only created to keep the whiners happy when we deleted their user page redirects from the main namespace. It's useless -- boxy 16:32, 1 June 2012 (BST)

   I used it a few weeks ago to collect names. It's just a list of usernames. It's a place to look for users; this is a use, though it's not frequently used. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:49, 1 June 2012 (BST)

8. Delete - As boxy, it was mostly made out of a fit over DDR's user redirect deletion to shut them up. It's never really seen use or had one. I'm indifferent to it's existence which, for me, is enough for a delete when I can't find a single valid reason to have it at all. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 20:47, 1 June 2012 (BST)
9. Keep/Clean it up -- Lets just delete everyone on there who hasn't edited the wiki for a certain amount of time or some other qualification. Since I do occasionally use it to find people.        03:34, 3 June 2012 (BST)

Welcomenewbie

{{Welcomenewbie}} is an oversized piece of crap which needs to be taken out back and shot. I'd have nominated it for A/SD as off topic (because something that fucking overdone is even more effective than standard boilerplate at putting people off from the wiki), but figured it should have its day in the sun. So, have at!

I'll be bringing in WikiMedia research data at some point when I'm less tired. Alternatively someone else can find the relevant Jorm quotes. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:48, 22 May 2012 (BST)

1. Delete – As above. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:45, 22 May 2012 (BST)
2. keep - Did you do this once before? May have been for something else. But this thing has thousands of transclusions and in my opinion just cannot be deleted outright. We should discuss how to facilitate the transition away from WN instead of simply deleting the one bit of it on a whim. That doesn't solve helping users. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:24, 22 May 2012 (BST)

   Nope. That was Nosubst.
   As for how to transition? Firstly, write people relevant messages if you want to welcome them! A personalised message from a real person is far, far more effective than a boilerplate message, especially one as hideous as this one.
   For the existing transclusions? Have The General's bot replace 'em with a link to something more useful. (Let's not even get into how welcome templates are not supposed to be transcluded, FFS!) ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:48, 22 May 2012 (BST)

   Yeah, see, even though it was nosubst last time, it's a similar issue I guess. As one of the only people who actually did write relevant messages to people to help them out (and was rightfully thanked for it on many occasions), I totally agree. But that's the initial step to the solution of removing WN. Removing the mess made is the middle step, deleting it is eventually the last. Much like what I imagine the fallout of the nosubst deletion vote was, in order to have a chance of getting this deleted I'd imagine you'd have to fulfil promises like using a bot to change the transclusions before putting the template up for deletion. that's what really convinces average anal-joes like me. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:41, 22 May 2012 (BST)

   Yar. This was the fastest way to get it started. (Laziness is one of my prime virtues, after all.) Call to arms sent. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 14:11, 22 May 2012 (BST)

   Just to say: This will happen; I've just been kinda busy recently. I will get to it soonish.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 00:44, 3 June 2012 (BST)

   Switch them out for transclusions of Mediawiki:Welcomecreation, not for the template code plox. Otherwise it's kinda douchy to the users. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 02:21, 3 June 2012 (BST)

3. Keep - Although I agree that it can be a bit much for most newbies (I just glanced at it when Thad WN'd me), It can still be helpful at times (I just link to it in a personalized WN in case they want to look at it, for example). Plus what DDR said. -- †  talk ? f.u. 11:27, 22 May 2012 (BST)
4. Keep - I think Rev is just jealous I used the WN thing in the past to propel myself to number one most linked to user. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 11:34, 22 May 2012 (BST)

   Nope.avi ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:48, 22 May 2012 (BST)

5. shutup keep.--User:Sexualharrison11:37, 22 May 2012
6. Keep - As much as I hate it and want it gone, DDR has it right. Start with the other stuff, finish with this step. The faster it's killed off, the better. —Aichon— 17:07, 22 May 2012 (BST)
7. Keep - I don't really see the problem of WN, but if you're going to remove it go through the correct channels first.-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 18:56, 23 May 2012 (BST)
8. Keep --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 20:48, 23 May 2012 (BST)
9. Keep - However, it is useless in its current state. I'd prefer to keep the template under that name, but to replace the content with a stock welcome message, in running text and with no tables, bullets or other annoying embellishments. -- Spiderzed█ 14:06, 26 May 2012 (BST)

   I think you're right on the money with this one. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:18, 27 May 2012 (BST)

10. Speedy Even the project creator admits this only exists for spamming users to the point of vandalism. It's worthless and redundant since we already have a system message that does this without dropping a big steaming pile of worthless self indulgent spam on new users talk pages. "I appreciate you, now have this generic introduction of crap no one needs or wants to read through because to me you're only a +1." If you use this to welcome new users you are a horrible wikizen and should be escalated for vandalism just like MatthewFarenheit and Airborne88. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 11:32, 27 May 2012 (BST)

    RE: Correction Full -> EXCERPT: Tl;dr?: You're right, he never admitted it. He just complained when one user was escalated for intentionally misusing it to the point of leaving the wiki in a mass of wiki drama. If a template's primary use is spamming then it's spam and there is a large multitude of proof that this is the only remaining purpose to Welcome Newbie as a project at least since Project Mentor and MediaWiki:Welcomecreation went live. Holding on to projectnewbie is holding on to the past for nostalgic, ill conceived, reasons. It shouldn't actually matter what MatthewFarenheit said having this at all is a bad idea lest someone start using it again. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 10:56, 28 May 2012 (BST)

11. Delete - Doesn't the wiki get enough spam already? ~ _{00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)}

Recent Actions

Template:Timeline

A rather weak attempt at creating an Urban Dead timeline. The formation of CoL, a few sieges and Amazing being banned are the only entries and those edits were from 5 1/2 years ago. It was only transcluded on Roleplaying and I've removed it there.

1. Delete ~ _{04:46, 13 May 2012 (UTC)}
2. Delete - --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 09:15, 13 May 2012 (BST)
3. Delete D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:02, 13 May 2012 (BST)
4. Delete - Might as well start over if anyone wants to expand a timeline. -- Spiderzed█ 17:17, 13 May 2012 (BST)
5. Merge a few of the game related entries with the new timeline project. Delete everything else, like the Amazing bit. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 13:37, 14 May 2012 (BST)
6. Delete--User:Sexualharrison11:38, 22 May 2012
7. Merge ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 11:53, 22 May 2012 (BST)
8. Delete because the information on it has already been merged into UDWiki:Project Timeline. Bob Moncrief 15:24, 22 May 2012 (BST)
9. Delete - Looks reasonable.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 20:53, 23 May 2012 (BST)

Deleted with 7 votes to delete and 2 votes to merge.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 17:10, 31 May 2012 (BST)

Assmuffin

Clear Crit 1 and 2.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:34, 27 April 2012 (BST)

1. Keep. Its less off topic now. :P ~ _{20:13, 27 April 2012 (UTC)}
2. Keep – General hilarity. (Also damn you Vapor, you're deliberately making work for me now, aren't you? ) ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 05:51, 28 April 2012 (BST)

   Moved from Speedy. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 05:57, 28 April 2012 (BST)

3. Keep. 07:28, 28 April 2012 (BST)
4. Delete Wow. If you want to troll banned users, be more creative. --Ross^lessness 07:57, 28 April 2012 (BST)

   Trolling aside, you know in your heart of hearts that this wiki needs an article named Assmuffin. Do not deny it Ross. All we are saying, is give Assmuffin a chance. ~ _{19:05, 28 April 2012 (UTC)}

   Troll group called Nazi Assmuffins with some actual establishment in game?--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 01:27, 29 April 2012 (BST)

5. Speedy Crit 2. -- Spiderzed█ 14:41, 28 April 2012 (BST)
6. 'Lete --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:09, 28 April 2012 (BST)

   I wouldn't go as far to say the Asmuffin article is l33t, but I appreciate the vote of confidence. ~ _{19:05, 28 April 2012 (UTC)}

7. Keep - This is art. -- Cheese 16:19, 28 April 2012 (BST)
8. Delete - This seems like a remarkably silly page and probably shouldn't be on UDwiki. Also, the person who originally put it on Speedys is a sexy bastard so I have to vote to delete. ;)--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 18:46, 28 April 2012 (BST)
9. keeps whats not to like?--User:Sexualharrison03:15, 29 April 2012
10. Delete - I am serious. There will be no silly on this wiki. There will be no irrelevant material. There is to be no fun. --A Serious Compact Gnome 03:58, 29 April 2012 (BST)
11. Delete - this is not the Urban Dictionary -- boxy 04:19, 29 April 2012 (BST)
12. delete more of the shithead banana tactics crowd attempting to ruin the wiki D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 07:30, 29 April 2012 (BST)

    Ruin? No. Slightly ransack? Perhaps. Do I need to get Assmuffin on the stats page to get you guys to accept that Assmuffin is here to stay? ~ _{17:53, 29 April 2012 (UTC)}

    i'm all set to make an alt if need be.--User:Sexualharrison01:18, 30 April 2012

    Sadly, a long history of precedence basically nullifies any achievement that will manage (sounds much more smug than I was attempting but you get the picture). D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:19, 30 April 2012 (BST)

    Sadly, indeed. Perhaps an event, then. Disambiguously. ~ _{01:06, 1 May 2012 (UTC)}

13. Delete - Hilarious. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 10:30, 29 April 2012 (BST)
14. Delete - Funny, but I don't think it's used enough by the community to warrant its own page. That said, let's use it as much as possible and have it undeleted later on! -- †  talk ? f.u. 12:57, 8 May 2012 (BST)

With 9 delete votes vs 5 keep votes, the page has been deleted. -- Spiderzed█ 17:15, 13 May 2012 (BST)

Using my evil psyop powers, I have retained a copy of this page in my userspace archive for the sake of future generations. If you are feeling nostalgic or wish to improve the article, feel free. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:51, 22 May 2012 (BST)

Combat 18

crit 2 and 6 me thinks.

1. delete--User:Sexualharrison15:00, 25 April 2012
2. Delete - On a side note, has anyone else noticed that the Nazi Zombies have disappeared from the stats page? -- Cheese 11:10, 26 April 2012 (BST)

   gee I wonder why? there are a few still standing. at least the ones I have in my contacts list.--User:Sexualharrison03:16, 29 April 2012

3. Keep Come on guys, point and laugh at it when you're feeling down. 07:28, 28 April 2012 (BST)
4. Delete! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 15:12, 28 April 2012 (BST)
5. Keep - We need a page we all can point and laugh at. -- Spiderzed█ 16:11, 28 April 2012 (BST)
6. Keep – Because sysops shouldn't be the only ones who can point and laugh. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:06, 29 April 2012 (BST)
7. Keep - Although if kept I'd strongly campaign for removing the large links to white power videos. Any one of us could do it without little resistance I'd imagine so I'll consider it if the page passes. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 03:16, 1 May 2012 (BST)

   figures--User:Sexualharrison04:01, 1 May 2012

   yeah figures that you'd get butthurt over this and then have a gripe at one of the only people being slightly neutral about it all (if retard nazis are one side of the argument and whimpering mimsies like yourself are on the other side) D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:06, 1 May 2012 (BST)

   you are not neutral, you have never have been. do i need to provided links? you are almost as big a hypocrite as fucking corny was. the difference being he at least knows he is a asshole. show some consistently for once.--User:Sexualharrison13:20, 1 May 2012

   Gimme links please faggot. For every link you can provide of me being a dickhead about the nazi issue I could provide three of every kneejerk fag like you being biased for the sole reason that the victim is a nazi and me trying to be level headed about it all. As a pre-emptive rebuttal, any time I was a shithead to corn or oberst or whatever other alt he had it was cause he was a cunt and a retard, not cause he was a nazi. As a sysop and in an administrational sense I was pretty on the level and even if I wasn't, the sheer fact that I had the community to compare to myself gave me the easy basis to say I was regardless. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 10:55, 2 May 2012 (BST)

   no fuck you. and when I have i ever stated other wise that I didn't hate nazis.? --User:Sexualharrison11:36, 2 May 2012

   I don't think I implied that was the case at all, and if I did I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:15, 2 May 2012 (BST)

8. Delete - The nice thing about A/D voting is that you don't need anything more than a personal opinion that something should be deleted in order to vote that way. I also view the "keep something to laugh at" stance as the other side of "give them something to gloat about", which I don't like. —Aichon— 14:51, 2 May 2012 (BST)

Kept with an even-stevens of 4 votes each.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 00:34, 11 May 2012 (BST)

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