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This page is for the request of page deletions within the Urban Dead wiki. Due to concerns about loss of data, the ability to delete pages is restricted to system operators. As such, regular users will need to request a deletion from the system operators. For consistency and accountability, system operators also adhere to the guidelines listed here.
==Guidelines for Deletion Requests==
All Deletion Requests '''must''' contain the following information in order to be considered:
* '''A link to the page in question.''' Preferably bolded for visibility. Note that Category and Image links need a colon at the front to turn them into links (ie <code><nowiki>[[:Category:Category]]</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>[[:Image:Image.jpg]]</nowiki></code>).
* '''A reason for deletion.''' This should be short and to the point.
* '''A signed datestamp.''' This can be easily done by adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of your request.
In addition to placing a request on this page, please place the '''''<nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>''''' tag on the top of the page that is being recommended for deletion. Please make sure that the original content remains on the page, so that others can judge whether the page is worthy of deletion.
Any deletion request that does not contain these three pieces of information will not be considered, and will be removed by a system operator.
Once the deletion request has been entered, the request shall remain on this page, where it will be voted on for a period of two (2) weeks, as judged by the initial datestamp. At the conclusion of this two weeks, the appropriate action will be taken by a system operator, and at the end of that day the request will be moved into the [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive|Archive]].
Certain types of pages may be better being scheduled for deletion in order to reduce the amount of red tape and stop this page getting too cluttered. To lodge a request for scheduled deletions, go to [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Scheduling]].
Deletion of pages that match a certain criteria may be better serviced by a request for a Speedy Deletion. Speedy Deletions are for removal of pages that are clearly of no value to the wiki, and do not incur the two week voting requirement. Speedy Deletion requests can be lodged at [[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions]].
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==Guidelines for Voting on Deletion Requests==
* One vote per user.
* Voting should take place underneath the request, and each vote should be started with a {{CodeInline|#}} with no empty lines inbetween votes.
* There are four vote types:
** '''Delete'''. For agreement with the deletion request
** '''Merge'''. For indication that the content on the page should be merged with another page (includes an implicit '''Delete''').
** '''Speedy Delete'''. For indication that the page meets one of the [[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions|Speedy Deletions]] Criteria (includes an implicit '''Delete''').
** '''Keep'''. For disagreement with the deletion request.
* The specific vote keyword should be bolded within the lodged vote. Any relevant comments are also allowed, but these should not be bolded.
* At least one '''Delete''' vote must be entered by the deadline in order for a page to be deleted. System operators may not use their own vote after the deadline to delete a page.
* If more '''Delete''' votes are entered than '''Keep''' votes, the page will be deleted. In any other circumstance, the page is kept.
* If 3 '''Speedy Delete'''s are lodged, and there are no '''Keep''' Votes, the page will be deleted as per [[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy Deletions|Speedy Deletions]].
==Deletion Queue==
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===[[Federal Communications Commission (FCC) - Malton Branch]]===
Unlinked, only 1 edit, which was also the only edit of the creator, 4 links to pages about phone masts and radios and 1 to the FCC website. And I dont think its them. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:54, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Maybe even speedy.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 13:20, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Yup--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 16:15, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Very dead. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 00:00, 19 September 2009 (BST)
===[[:Image:KTscroll.PNG]]===
Basically, this is something I created for the group, and was edited, and is being used in it's current form without my permission. When I resigned as leader of the group, I gave permission for the original text contained within the image to be used on the groups page, under the condition that it would not be altered, or edited in anyway. I consider this a form of copyright infringment,... considering it is no longer being used with permission, as it was originally. You can see, I've taken the oppertunity to try to resolve the issue myself before coming here, on their [[Talk:Knights Templar|Talk Page]]. The only proof I could possably offer was contained in the original forum for the group (which has long sice been deleted), and my possably having been the one to put it up... which doesn't seem to appear in [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Poodle_of_doom my contributions], or on the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Knights_Templar&action=history groups history page]. The [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Knights_Templar Logs] for the page seem to indicate at least one time that the page was deleted... which could explain why nothing of this edit appears. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 06:09, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' Infringement on terms of use. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 06:09, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - There is no proof that this image was created by the claimant and the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Poodle_of_doom logs], which include entries from before the last history wipe, show that the claimant did not upload the image in question. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 06:17, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#:Wait, this isn't actually about the image, but the text? You wrote a poem and you don't like that they've changed a couple of words and are now trying to claim intellectual copyright? Intellectual copyright over the concept of the written word is extremely difficult to prove, and I believe it's unlikely to succeed here. You have to prove that your concept was original, was created solely by yourself and provide proof of the original text that can be dated to give you sole claim. You've already stated that your major resource to this is long gone. I have to go brush up on my copyright law.... -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 06:26, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#::I have the original emails off the first forum the group ever had where the poem was submitted to the group. I also have documents from Roddy Winters, where he was writing a history report for the group, and gives me credit in this report for the poem. Would that work? -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 00:24, 19 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - No proof = No pasta.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 07:14, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Why can't the image have a background and font? The poem's content is unchanged but, as a page element, they are entitled to pretty it up within how they want it displayed. As is it's group content and the most you can really do is go through arbies or/and request they don't quote your poem that you made for them. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 10:21, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Dude.  You only gave the guy 2 days to respond.  And based on what he said, they didn't even alter the poem, they just threw up the background and changed the font.  Give the group a little more time to respond and try working it out by being nice.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 13:19, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Methinks you're not too grand at figuring out the system. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 00:00, 19 September 2009 (BST)
===[[:Category:Humour]] (moved from A/SD)===
A Crit 4 which is a redirect to its much larger colonial brother: [[:Category:Humor]]. I ask the serving sysop to consider the possibility that this may be kept on the grounds that it is a redirect for a legitimate method of spelling Humour, but in my opinion it just serves as a way to confuse categorising users (ie. when someone uses it and sees the blue link, they think it is the correct category despite its actually use as a redirect). --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|Chartreuse}}-- 09:46, 13 September 2009 (BST)
:For my sake, I'd appreciate it if from now on some of you that vote please specify, as Cyberbob, whether you think the other one should be deleted. If so, I'll happily move the entries from Category:Humor to Category:Humour as per Iscariot's reasoning, then delete the former. I just think there should be only one of these categories. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|Chartreuse}}-- 11:11, 13 September 2009 (BST)
::<small>Debate moved to the [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Deletions#Humour|talk page]]</small>
#'''Keep''' - This is an English game, written by an Englishman, set in an English town with servers in England. The language used will be English. If the colonials can't spell, tough, we shall have them learn rather than sully the Queen's English. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 09:53, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - If we're going to delete one of them let it be the American one for the reasons Iscariot outlined above. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:03, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Damn right, Iscariot!--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 10:41, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Meh. We shouldn't discriminate against regional variations of spelling humor. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 10:45, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Iscariot. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 12:23, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Iscariot and Bob. Its an English game so we should stick to English on the wiki. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:53, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Keep both, as Link. I'm an American, but I do like to put the "u" in words at times. "Centre" is just gay though.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 16:08, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' and leave the US spelling. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 16:38, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''[[Sandpit Revolution|Kill the oppressors!]]'''  - As the guy who created this page (i think) along with Template:Humour i am happy to say how proud i am of all you guys coming so far...i'd like to see the american version gone but at the same time it is the language of the internet, so perhaps they should both act as redirects to a brand new page, Category:funny. Thoughts? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:33, 14 September 2009 (BST)
#:How about we make them both redirect to Category:Humour?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 07:09, 14 September 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' you buggers threw our tea in the water so the least you can do is stop messing about with our native tongue :) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 11:49, 14 September 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' - and delete the misspelled "Category:Humor" --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:26, 14 September 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' - As a redirect. The rest of the commentary is nonsense about a long settled dispute of linguistic rules and editing standards that no comments here will change. The current set up reflects the very valid accepted wiki standard for linguistic spelling disputes. Basically the rest is just idiocy. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:52, 17 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:58, 17 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Move contents to "humour", and make "humor" a redirect.  Also lol at: "If the colonials can't spell, ''tough,'' we shall have them learn..." Irony rules!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 13:38, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#:There's nothing wrong with that sentence. You do know the meaning of the word tough, right?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 13:50, 18 September 2009 (BST)
#::lol {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:51, 18 September 2009 (BST)
===Mall Tour Maps (moved from A/SD)===
*[[:Category:Mall Tour 2009/Map]] crit 1,4
*[[Mall Tour 2009/Map]] crit 1
Both dupes of [[Mall Tour 2009/MallTourMap]]. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 05:04, 13 September 2009 (BST)
:And duped again at [[User:Mall Tour 2009/Map]]. This is what happens when large groups have their pages spread all over 3 different namespaces in the wiki. With multiple people editing, it gets very messy, and we end up with unused sub-categories and dupes on dupes on dupes. I've contacted the group leader, and hopefully we can get things sorted out properly <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:08 13 September 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Keep''' - Clearly against the wishes of the group in question who are well within their rights to organise their pages how they see fit in their namespaces. Petty attempt by a sysop to edit other groups' templates to prove a point when he's yet to do my protections, rule on misconduct cases or even issue my apology. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 05:16, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#:If you really want to keep the new page and be redundant, go ahead. Anything within the group's main namespace and theirs to meddle with, but the category namespace provides meta-functions which mean you don't get sole purview over it (not that groups get entire exclusivity to their pages anyway). {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 05:22, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#::Single keep, take it to deletions for two weeks. Also policy shows groups have control over their pages and subpage regardless of their location, if you want to make a special case, off you go to A/PD. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 05:30, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:34, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Delete/Keep''' - Delete the first one, keep the second.</s>--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 05:39, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#::'''Speedy Delete'''--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 05:59, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#:Except they're both duplicated by [[Mall Tour 2009/MallTourMap]]. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:40, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#::But the second one is under the group namespace. As far as I know, there is no policy that deals with dupe group subpages being deleted.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 05:46, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#:::Actually, Izzy did want it deleted but an hour ago. Must've changed his mind. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 05:53, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#:::::We must be really good friends for you to be wandering around shortening my handle like that. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 06:00, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#::::::Glad you think so. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 06:02, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#::::Interesting. Non group member makes a page for said group. I change my vote and I recommend, to deaf ears I would presume, that Iscariot or another group member takes the action to arbies. And hell, this whole thing could actually go there.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 05:59, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 05:40, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' --{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 06:05, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 07:09, 13 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - I never understood why people started making groups and events fucking categories in the first place. Retarded and confusing. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:28, 14 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Mall Tours are screwed by the wiki system.  While not an official user like Iscariot they aren't a real group either since they are an ongoing event and therefore different every year (hence the new names). The only page here that I think is a problem is the one under the User space, but since the wiki policies aren't open minded enough to protect something new like the MT I could see why they put it there. Just make sure everything links and come up with a workable policy on these things.--[[Image:Globetrotters_Icon.png|15px]] '''[[User:DCC/Suggestions|#99]]'''  <sup>''[[User:DCC|DCC]] ''</sup> 18:11, 18 September 2009 (BST)
===[[Team_Zombie_Hardcore/MOST_SUCK_Page]]===
This entire page is a deliberate, malicious attack on several players, and makes entirely unfounded accusations of zerging and spying against myself, as well as insulting the Philosophe Knights, Amber Waves and Violet Begonia. Pages like this should not be allowed on the Wiki, IMO. [[User:A11an0n|A11an0n]] 13:13, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Butthurt, butthurt, butthurt and butthurtness. --{{User:ObiFireFighter/sig}} 15:40, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I don't think so,  Aegis <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 15:45 11 September 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Keep''' - First trying to vandalize it, now trying to get it deleted. B-u-t-t-h-u-r-t. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 16:23, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|Chartreuse}}-- 16:39, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Eh, no time for a witty comment.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 16:56, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 17:19, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - You gotta take it to Arbies.  --{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 18:32, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - My comment was awesome. --[[User:Dhavid Grohl|Dhavid Grohl]] 11:47, 12 September 2009 (BST)
#:<s>'''Keep'''  - I'm going to go with butthurt too.</s>Unsigned vote.--{{User:The General/sig}} 22:05, 11 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Arbirtration or nothing. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:26, 12 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Because TZH fawning over us is ''in'' style. Also, as Anime Sucks. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 03:29, 12 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Figured out how to sign --[[User:Mike Smith|Mike Smith]] 05:46, 12 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Anyone who believes TZH is an idiot. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:58, 12 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - If someone makes a page insulting you, then the correct response is to make a page insulting them.  --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 12:30, 14 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As ZS. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 22:15, 14 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Ha Ha ha! --[[User:Duke cage|Duke cage]] 16:01, 17 September 2009 (BST)
==Recent Actions==
==Recent Actions==
===[[Ransack_the_dustbins!]]===
===[[The_Republic_of_Digby|The Republic of Digby]]===
Related pages: [[Ransack_the_dustbins!/recruitment]] and [[:Image:A_zombies05.jpg]]. Dead group stuff - inactive during last year's check, nothing since, not on the stats page. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 20:34, 27 August 2009 (BST)
Content cleared by owner, might as well be a speedy --[[User:Bean|Bean]] 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Slap an {{tl|InactiveGroup}} notice on it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:38, 27 August 2009 (BST)
# '''Speedy''': Page was blanked by the only guy who maintained it, Author Edit Only implied --[[User:Bean|Bean]] 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)
#:Done. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 01:33, 28 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Scheduled''' - User has blanked the page and created a new group. Crit 7 by proxy.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 16:01, 12 June 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Rooster. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:39, 28 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keepers''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 05:10, 31 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' as le Rooter--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 10:00, 4 September 2009 (BST)
 
After a week, there have been no votes to delete so I'm pre-emptively '''keeping''' this. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 11:06, 4 September 2009 (BST)
 
===[[St. Boniface Defacers]]===
Little more than a template, only incoming link is an unused redirect. Which should probably also be up for deletion......--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:07, 18 August 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' 1 edit in 2007, nothing since. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 23:08, 18 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''delete'''</s> no content --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 02:51, 19 August 2009 (BST)
#:'''speedy''' crit 1 --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:44, 28 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' No content and hasn't been touched for 2 years. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 02:55, 19 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - I think it's a little dumb that these pages can't be crit 1'd just because of their status as group pages, but whatever. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:04, 19 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedydelete''' - crit 1... <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:10 19 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#<s>'''Keep''' - Disk space = Cheap >:P --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 14:29, 19 August 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Speedy'''--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 14:35, 1 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - And the redirect.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 17:59, 21 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Because Thad is fat. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 19:47, 21 August 2009 (BST)
#:Actually, I'm minorly underweight.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 21:35, 24 August 2009 (BST)
#::In the head department. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 22:56, 24 August 2009 (BST)
#::In the groin department. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:37, 26 August 2009 (BST)
#:::Har har, nice (cheap) shot. Also, what's a groin? Do I want to know?--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:12, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:::You...don't know what a groin is? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:15, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::::I'm not surprised you don't ;) --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 16:14, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:::::Ohh, I get [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groin it]. Good one Bob, making jokes about a guy's genitals is always sure to be efficient. Seriously though, your making sexual references towards me now? What is this, grade school? --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:20, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::I'm must be very good at English, atleast good enough for you to forget that it is not my main language.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:20, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::life of t3h party~ {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:24, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:::::::Is your idea of a conversation such that you sprout out random gibberish?--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:25, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::::Is yours such that you literally have no room for ironically immature humour? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:27, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:::::::::It's not just ironically immature, it's also bad. Your telling me I have a small d*ck. A penis joke? Somebody give this man a price for that, I haven't seen this type of good stuff since the incarnation of "lolcats". While I'm aware of the "irony" I just don't find it funny. Maybe I should swap places with you on Giles Puritan list :/ --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:35, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::::::The joke wasn't supposed to be funny on the "small dick lol" leve-nevermind. I'm too tired. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 16:38, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:::::::::::I think you need to look up what a joke is. An unfunny joke on purpose? Well whatever I guess. What's the time in kangaroo country anyway around now? 2 o'clock in the night? --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 16:58, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::::::::12. Stop QQing cause you got burned, puritan! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 14:41, 1 September 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 04:15, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:<s>'''Speedy delete'''</s> - Crit 1 --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:41, 28 August 2009 (BST) '''Oops, I voted twice''' --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:43, 28 August 2009 (BST)
#::We can all thank Thad for this not being cycled right now. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:42, 28 August 2009 (BST)
#:::I voted keep for the sake of getting tired of people whining about that diskspace cheap stuff. I don't need to slow down the system.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 14:38, 1 September 2009 (BST)
#::::Buuut you did. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 14:47, 1 September 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 14:47, 1 September 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Template:Manbags]]===
Crit 10 unused template. It's not a bad template, just no one is using it. So, I don't think it needs to be a speedy.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 18:26, 26 August 2009 (BST)
:Thanks bob for pointing that out.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 14:59, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 21:07, 26 August 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Keep''' - As below (SWEET I'VE NEVER USED THAT AS A JUSTIFICATION BEFORE). --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 15:22, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Speedy Delete''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:42, 27 August 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Keep''' - No longer unused. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 07:18, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Speedy Delete''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 00:48, 27 August 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Keep''' - As below. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 07:00, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep'''- i like it and it is now in use. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:10, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Harmless, and J3D has opted to save it and whatnot. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 04:15, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - J3d decided to keep it, so no need to delete it. I was gonna say ''disk space == cheep'' just to see if nubis would cry, but meh --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 04:19, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - There's like 30 people using it.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 04:21, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:2? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 07:00, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::My best guess was he meant 'it' to be a manbag.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:32, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:::Oh I got confused with the other manbag template.  Also, I'm using 2 right now.  BOOOYAH!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 07:49, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I have many stylish manbags and discovering this template will allow me to proclaim it.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 06:52, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:14, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Sheesh --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:39, 28 August 2009 (BST)
 
*'''Kept''' as the template is now in use and all votes after 6 days are Keep. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 08:04, 1 September 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Template:ShallNotPass]]===
Another unused template.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 18:28, 26 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 21:07, 26 August 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Keep''' - Now in use. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 15:21, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Speedy Delete''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:42, 27 August 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Keep''' - No longer unused. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:23, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Speedy Delete''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 00:48, 27 August 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Keep''' - As above/below. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 16:08, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Tis a nice template. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 04:15, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - i agree with rooster. I even kept the image in my image ark, just in case this template got deleted. --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 04:18, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Delete'''</s> --{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 06:52, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#:on what grounds exactly? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:33, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#::'''Keep''' - Since it is now in use.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 17:53, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Someones using it --<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN</span>]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Community Sysop Demotion|<span style="color:#000000">WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 08:41, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - stylish and cool --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 03:40, 28 August 2009 (BST)
 
*Pre-emptively '''Kept'''. Template is now in use. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 08:04, 1 September 2009 (BST)
 
===[[HAWK Private Military Forces‎]]===
Blanked by creator of page. The only other contrib was a category from link. I'm contacting the [[User:Sharker| creator]] now, and if he responds, then that'd make this speedy. or, not a delete. Either way, there'll eb more info soon.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:02, 29 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As Above--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:02, 29 August 2009 (BST)
#'''speedy delete''' - crit one. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 18:25, 30 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1, possibly Crit 7. as well.--{{User:The General/sig}} 23:05, 30 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - If the owner blanked it it's probably a Crit 7 as well but it is definitely at least a Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:06, 30 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedily Deleted'''. 05:07, 31 August 2009 (BST)
 
 
 
===[[Template:Zig13Malton]]===
Unused and over a year old.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 18:28, 26 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 21:07, 26 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:42, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 00:48, 27 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 04:15, 27 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 06:25, 27 August 2009 (BST)
:Speedy Delet.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:55, 27 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[:Image:5oN09.jpg]]===
No redeeming value. Poorly made. It's a lot like the infamous Amberwaves.jpg and more than likely only made to be deleted. --[[Image:Globetrotters_Icon.png|15px]] '''[[User:DCC/Suggestions|#99]]'''  <sup>''[[User:DCC|DCC]] ''</sup> 17:35, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''so Delete''' --[[Image:Globetrotters_Icon.png|15px]] '''[[User:DCC/Suggestions|#99]]'''  <sup>''[[User:DCC|DCC]] ''</sup> 17:35, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - All men drawn crappy pictures of dicks, it's an honored tradition. Plus, still not porn.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 17:43, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - insert something funny about DCC, Nubis and the Dead here --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 17:48, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Haha!  Called my shot.  Grats #99, you go on the [[User:Giles Sednik/List of Wiki Puritans| list of wiki puritans]].--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 20:11, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' Just because #99 is funny as hell..... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 23:16, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#:<small>==> talk page</small> <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:55 14 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Keep''' Unlike the Amber Waves image, it's not made to insult anyone. Petty and childish, but not really worth deleting. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 23:54, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As above. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 00:49, 13 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I think it is terrible but if they want to make their event fail terribly, it isn't up to us to interfere. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|LightSkyBlue}}-- 01:24, 13 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - It's sad to see them making an event like the 5th of November suck as hard as Umbrella <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:01 13 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#:<small>==> talk page</small> <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 04:12 19 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' - Pointless and childish.--{{User:The General/sig}} 14:08, 13 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Us wiki puritans gotta stick together {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 14:15, 13 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|16px]][[User:MistrGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|16px]]</span> 16:45, 13 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 18:28, 13 August 2009 (BST)
#:<small>=> [[UDWiki_talk:Administration/Deletions#Image:5oN09.jpg|Talk page'd]]</small> --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 02:37, 17 August 2009 (BST)
#'''[[Keep|DDR]]''' phrases it well.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:38, 14 August 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' why is this up for deletion? Its not porn and we don't (normally) delete stuff just for being crap... --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 19:43, 14 August 2009 (BST)
#:The puritans think it's porn *glares angrily at bobB*{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 00:01, 16 August 2009 (BST)
#:I do have the right to submit whatever I want for deletion, too. It's hard to believe that, right? --[[Image:Globetrotters_Icon.png|15px]] '''[[User:DCC/Suggestions|#99]]'''  <sup>''[[User:DCC|DCC]] ''</sup> 06:44, 19 August 2009 (BST)
#::I don't think anybody actually thinks it's porn. This is one of those "rare" delete-because-it's-crap moments I guess Honest. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:51, 16 August 2009 (BST)
#'''(tentative) Delete''' -- DDR said it well. However, one paints over crap like this in public bathrooms... same thing here... efface it. Still... it would have been better to ''first have asked the user who posted it'' to remove it. Then, if they refused, put it up for a communityv vote. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 23:49, 16 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - put your censorship away, for the sake of sanity. It's puritanical nonsense even having a vote on whether or not to get rid of a cartoon willie the likes of which adorns text books, school desks and toilets (one expects) the world over. --<span style="font-size:90%">[[User:Funt Solo|Funt Solo]]</span> <sup style="font-size:70%">[[Mod_Conspiracy|QT]]</sup> [[Image:Scotland flag.JPG|18px]] 05:58, 18 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - It's dumb but, who gives a shit? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:03, 18 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 23:26, 18 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' DISK SPACE = CHEEP --<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN</span>]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Community Sysop Demotion|<span style="color:#000000">WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 05:26, 19 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Kept''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:44, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
===Some stuff===
====[[Indonesian Republican Army]]====
No edits since end of last year and it's still a stub with a group box. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' On this and everything else Cheese has posted today. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:51, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. Not one of them has enough content to be worth keeping around, nor the significance. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''SD''' - As Bob. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:20, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
====[[Life Squad]]====
Last edit back in 07, and it has a couple of redirects but there's been no activity since before the purge. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:20, 26 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. --{{User:The General/sig}} 08:46, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:47, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
====[[Malton Commando Corps]]====
No edits for 2 years (again) and a couple of links to archives. The creator placed a note back in August 06 saying the group has been merged to form Dentonside Power leaving this stub pretty much useless now especially since it'll have passed from the memories of most players. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:20, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
====[[Ultimate Decretum]]====
No edits for 2 years and no links to anything other than admin pages (page was deleted twice in the past and recreated, but again this was more than two years ago). -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)


#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
'''Deleted''' as a crit 7 by proxy.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="plainlinks">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 17:05, 12 June 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1, not on stats. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:21, 26 August 2009 (BST)


'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 26 August 2009 (BST)
===[[Lamportians]]===
This page was [[UDWiki:Administration/Deletions/Archive/Feb_2008#Lamportians|already]] [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Lamportians deleted]. The only reason I haven't done this as a crit 6 is because the content doesn't match completely with the current version being more role-play than straight up recruiting(like the previous iteration). This is a term only used by a singular very small group. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''Obviously Delete''' - And I really want to do this as a crit 6 but am erring on the side of caution. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''delete''' - had potential but it's just kinda shit. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 06:02, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''Speedy''' - Content is similar enough, IMHO: Expanding it doesn't mean its's not crit 6. This should be a group page, it's not a "generic term".--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 09:14, 25 May 2011 (BST)
*'''Delete''' - But I don't think it's enough for a speedy. They've expanded on it quite a bit.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 13:42, 25 May 2011 (BST)


====[[Retribution]]====
'''Deleted''' - This be unanimous.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 22:41, 8 June 2011 (BST)
Again, last edit was in December and no links. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)


#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
===[[Template:Wikipedia]]===
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
A template which is literally identical to using the "Wikipedia:" prefix in a link. It saves precisely '''0''' bytes while using a template inclusion and increasing server load.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 14:01, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Merge''' with [[Template:WP]] and then delete. Are all the transclusions truly due to {{tl|unsigned}}? We should be linking to internal help about signatures, not to Wikipedia. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#:Which I have [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template:Unsigned&curid=13862&diff=1891188&oldid=1870284 just done]. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:22, 26 August 2009 (BST)
#:Mostly. I've used my bot to subst the template in on all non-protected pages, given that it's completely redundant.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 15:38, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy C1''' - a template that merely uses a single wiki code command is "No content" in my books. --<small>Oh, and vote on [[UDWiki:Projects/Very_Funny...or_Not|Project Funny]], by the way.</small> --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:12, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' - as Spiderzed.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 20:25, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - You don't get to technicality off such a popular template. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:19, 20 May 2011 (BST)
#:[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Wikipedia|Popular?]] ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:54, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::The bot changed all of the edits so that's not exactly an accurate revelation of how people use it. [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Thegeneralbot This] is more realistic. People use this template because not everyone knows about the magic word, don't punish ill-informed users for being ill-informed? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:44, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#:::Why not redirect the template to an explanation of magic words? The magic word is so similar to the template that anyone who uses the template should be perfectly capbable of using the magic word.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 09:13, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#:::I was under the impression that the bot only subst'd {{tl|Wikipedia}} when found in {{tl|unsigned}} template calls. I may be wrong but still, I don't think the template is as popular as you're implying. And, yes I checked thegeneralbot's contribs. I so far haven't found any edits where {{tl|Wikipedia}} was subst'd other than inside {{tl|unsigned}}. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::::That's because the use in unsigned made up the bulk of {{tl|wikipedia}} uses. That said, nope, it didn't just remove the ones in unsigned, which explains why I can't find any of my old uses of it, despite the fact that I've used it frequently in the past. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#I support a '''merge''' with &#123;&#123;[[Template:WP|WP]]&#125;&#125;, but suggest retaining as a [[wikipedia:WP:SRD|soft redirect]], deleting only when we can get [[WP:]] implemented as an [[wikipedia:H:IW|interwiki]] shortlink. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 05:41, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 05:43, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - It's not actually the same as just the plain link, since the plain link requires additional code to look the same. Quick example: <code><nowiki>{{wikipedia|example}}</nowiki></code> yields {{WP|example}} while <code><nowiki>[[wikipedia:example]]</nowiki></code> yields [[wikipedia:example]]. Note the different outputs. I prefer the template since it saves some typing, and the code is cleaner. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 09:18, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#:You can use the [[wikipedia:Help:pipe trick|pipe trick]] to get the same appearance; although there is slightly more code, there is far less of a drain on server resources. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 13:12, 21 May 2011 (BST)
#::Pipes would work, sure, but that's why I mentioned less and cleaner code. Also, it doesn't produce "far less of a drain on server resources." When it comes to server load, the danger of templates is that if they are changed, every page they are included on needs to be re-cached. That's not an issue here since unsigned doesn't change. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#:::[{{fullurl:Template:Unsigned}}?action=history It's been changed twice recently]. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#::::"...frequently". Sorry, forgot to put that at the end of my last comment. ;) Anyway, two edits in three years (both of which had to be requested via A/PT) is nothing to be concerned with. To put things in perspective, in the same time period, your sig has changed 15x more frequently and is on more than 45x as many pages, yet none of us seem to object to it. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 10:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::Actually, ''I'' object. {{tongue}} I think we should get rid of templated sigs for precisely those reasons (added DB calls on every page load, plus cache invalidation of every page on which they are transcluded when they change), but while they are permitted by {{WIKILAW}}, I'm going to keep availing myself of the convenience. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 22:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::Basically, yeah. This is why there was the request to delete Nosubst. This template is far less harmful though and more intuitive to the partially wiki-literate. It's a tool and you shouldn't take away tools that don't actually harm anything just for the sake of simplicity. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:02, 23 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::Not sure how this template is more intuitive than the normal link; if they can find this template, they can find out how to use the link (which should be described in the help pages, anyway).--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|<span title="System Operator">Sys</span>]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 17:17, 24 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::Wikipedia:wikipedia: for one. The fact that templates are easier to understand to a layman than magic words for two. We assume that most users can pick up and learn templates fairly quickly and magic words/parsers rarely. I'm actually not a fan of the template but I don't see a reason to remove the option just so we don't have to change them manually. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:41, 25 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::Bah. If you ''really'' objected, your actions would speak for you and you wouldn't avail yourself of it at all. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:57, 23 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::So the Nosubst deletion nomination counts for naught? {{tongue}}<br/> I have a policy discussion in the works, but I don't know how long it will take me to get to. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 04:33, 23 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::So another policy will get passed by a group of individuals that give shit all about the wiki? Lovely. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>17:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::::::Whether it passes or not doesn't overly concern me. Which reminds me… {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 23:59, 24 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - u dont delete my contributions to the wiki without me having a say about it --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 20:37, 22 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I prefer the template--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 20:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)


'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 26 August 2009 (BST)
5 delete votes and 4 keeps. Merged (via move) with {{tl|WP}}. Kept {{tl|Wikipedia}} as a soft redirect. Fixed remaining links. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:40, 6 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:No reason to have a soft redirect when a standard redirect preserves functionality and doesn't make it harder to reach the new template page(the entire purpose of soft redirects)--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:05, 6 June 2011 (BST)


====[[WildGuns]]====
... this must be one of the most dumb moves since gen tried to pass an anti-goon policy with the goons active in the wiki. Creating a redirect in [[template:wikipedia]] to ]]template:wp]] just adds more server load to a template whose main reason for deletion was server load. Its just too dumb for me to understand it. The merge votes should've count as a kept in this case, ffs --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 12:31, 6 June 2011 (BST)
Nothing since December last year, no links and no edits by either of the listed members since the creation of the page. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
:You're right, since server load is the issue, we pretty much should have had this deleted lul -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:41, 6 June 2011 (BST)
::Yeah, pretty much. I kept as a soft redirect per Rev's suggestion but Karek reverted back to a typical redirect. If people want to keep it as a redirect or just keep the template rather than delete it then that's fine with me. That was never brought up during voting but whatever. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:::It's a soft redirect now actually. It was just waiting on verification that all usage was gone. Also, not really server intensive in any way. Even the claims of the editing of it were edits done by the people claiming they were a problem. Anyways, now it's set to sit for a month or three until we can be reasonably sure people have gotten the message.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:19, 7 June 2011 (BST)
::::I think we're both misinterpreting what a soft redirect is. They are just a short messages directing someone to an ''external'' site. I don't even think a soft (or even a "hard") redirect is warranted TBQH. It should just be deleted since that is how the voting concluded. If there is sufficient reason to keep it, put in a request at [[A/U]]. Otherwise, it comes off a lot like just a disagreement with the voting results and maneuvering things to turn this into a keep. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:::::I just set it up in a way to make it clear that [[Template:WP|WP]] was the current version and this page is no longer in use as a template. Terminology be damned I guess. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 08:43, 8 June 2011 (BST)
::::::That's all well and good, but it was ''voted'' for deletion??? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 04:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::Yeah no, when 2 of the 5 deletes are merges and the other 4 votes are keeps that reasoning doesn't really fly. Especially when you actually read Revenants vote. That being said it's still ''going to be deleted'', it's just going to be left as a soft redirect for a bit first because the template still exists. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:04, 9 June 2011 (BST)
::::::::My point is that it's funny when so many people vote but in the end it becomes a situational decision by one person pushing for what they want. I voted delete because I use the <nowiki>[[wikipedia]]</nowiki> code personally, but as a whole I'm indifferent. It's worth noting though that Merge got the ''least'' votes out of all the options, even if you aren't inclined to count them as implicit deletes (which you are) -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 09:25, 9 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::::Meh, the only reason it qualifies is that last Merge vote that puts it over and since the vote in question specifically qualifies itself as situational upon the soft redirect it's really just common sense. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 09:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
::::::::::I wasn't quite aware that we were intending on deleting it eventually and this was transitional? Is that actually the case? Cause if it is, it makes more sense and has made me look like a dil to boot. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 11:21, 9 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::::::We are and it is.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 11:27, 9 June 2011 (BST)
::::::::::::I remember reading that but somewhere along the line I forgot. I'm a bit of a mess -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:51, 11 June 2011 (BST)
:::::::::::::S'ok, apparently you're not [[User:Aichon|the only one]] who doesn't have time to read s recent comments make oh so clear. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)
What are you guys doing? Let me run through the process for handling a Delete and Merge result, since it's very simple, but has apparently been forgotten:
#Merge the two pages.
#Fix all links to point to the new page, except where they were specifically being used to refer to the old one as opposed to the new one (e.g. discussions like here)
#Fix all transclusions to point to the new page that it's being merged into
#Delete the page
That's all you guys had to do, but for some reason, you got stuck between #2 and #3. Why did no one check for and fix transclusions before replacing the template with text telling people not to use it? And why was that text put in at all, when your job was to follow the vote's results and ''delete'' the page? We don't need text telling people not to use a page that's been deleted, since people don't use pages that ''aren't there''. That's why you delete them. Why has this not been done? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:32, 10 June 2011 (BST)
:I did fix all incoming links and transclusions (although I think I must have missed the one transclusion in this vote). As for deleting it, that's what is currently under discussion. Pages ''have'' been kept as a redirect during a deletion before. I don't know that a redirect of this nature has been used before but I'm open to using them. I just want it made clear what is happening, since at first it seemed to me like maneuvering to turn a delete decision into a keep decision. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)</sub>
:1. Not a standard case. 2. If you can't be asked to read any of the intervening discussion that has happened don't bother to comment. You're just wasting everyone's time at this point. Third, since I know you won't bother to read through any of it because of your "right-ness"(a common problem with users of this wiki), [[Template:Wikipedia]] is a long existing template that was implemented 5 years ago. Above and beyond that it's a popular template on [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Template:Wikipedia wikipedia] [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Template:Wikipedia projects]. If you don't want to run the risk of users recreating it you do it [[Templte:Wikipedia|''this'']] way, which is also the only way it actually passes as a delete vote, having changed it essentially just saved the step of creating the soft redirect or redirect(since one is justified, the template [[Template:WP|still exists]]). Also, it's still getting deleted, now shoo. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)
::{{*}}"Can't be arsed".--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 18:32, 11 June 2011 (BST)
::I'll excuse your personal (and hurtful, coming from you) attacks on me as a courtesy. First off, I'm aware of its history and would prefer it stay around (see my vote above). Second, as I'm sure you agree, failing to fix any transclusions was an oversight in need of correction, and leaving them while altering the template is never part of proper procedure, so a mistake was definitely made here. Third, I think that you're not giving Rev enough credit, since he's a smart guy, is well-versed in the rules, and says what he means. If he had wanted it to be taken the way you say, he could have said Keep with his comment, or else he could have said Merge ''on the condition that'' it be done as he described. Instead, he said Merge, which he knows acts as a Delete, and he phrased it as a suggestion, instead of as a comment on which his vote was contingent. Fourth, see Crit 6. That's how you stop people from recreating the page on ''this'' wiki. Anyway, I'm not going to stick around to argue it further, so you'll get what you wanted from me. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:57, 11 June 2011 (BST)
:::Not personal, just frustrated. Sometimes even I tire of repeating myself and this would mke probably the fourth time this has been addressed. It's an unusual case and a close vote, it seems reasonable to try and do it in a way that has the least potential to cause issues(in this case phasing it out in steps). As for Crit 6, that's generally connected with vandalism cases historically. A situation that relies on it is less than ideal. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:44, 11 June 2011 (BST)


#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
=== Dupilcated image ===
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/File:50x16t.PNG] Un-used duplicate of [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/File:50x16.PNG], [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/File:50x16t.PNG 1] could be deletead?--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 16:03, 17 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Scheduled''' - but I'll check with Schwan before deleting. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' - Two days short of a scheduled. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:50, 17 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1.


'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 26 August 2009 (BST)
A. Schwan confirmed [[User_talk:A.schwan#Orphaned_Images|on his talk page]] that the image was unneeded, so I deleted it as crit 7 by proxy. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>21:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>


====[[The insomniacs]]====
===[[Template:Nosubst]]===
No edits since before the last purge and no links in or out. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
Horrible hack that exists only to work around sensible software limitations. We should take the opportunity given by the new sig size limits to recognise this, delete this abomination, and have all users made to use proper signatures. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)
:Just to be clear... this isn't going to break existing sig inclusions, is it. Just people who (attempt to) use it from now on.<br />I have long hated templated sigs, but then I also hate having to scroll through huge swathes of sig code if it's subst'ed into discussions <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 11:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)</small>
::Correct.<br/> And yeah, me too, but it's a bit “damned if you do, damned if you don't”, and templated sigs cause more problems than they solve, which is why they're prohibited by default by the MediaWiki software unless you deliberately circumvent that with a measure such as this template.{{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:53, 2 May 2011 (BST)
:::Or change a one-line setting in the software....--{{User:The General/sig}} 12:09, 2 May 2011 (BST)
::::Sadly I feel its too late. If it was setup from the beginning, I'd have no problem, but deleting it now is just going to break loads of links. Rev should set up UDWiki 2.0 --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:16, 2 May 2011 (BST)
:::::It '''was''' set up in the beginning, by Kevan, and then hacked around by users. And it shouldn't change any links that use it properly: the rest can be easily fixed. What it ''will'' do is necessitate users to change their sigs. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:27, 2 May 2011 (BST)
::::::'''No it wasn't'''. The mediawiki software didn't originally force substitution in signatures: It was added in an update and there wasn't originally a setting to turn it off, so we developed a workaround.--{{User:The General/sig}} 12:33, 2 May 2011 (BST)
::::::Whats the fix? --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)
:::::::Mostly deleting it out of [[User:MrAushvitz|MrAushvitz]]'s [[Template talk:Nosubst|fucking sig]]. {{grr}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
::::::::Ah, thats why its used on so many of the old suggestion pages. Get on that, use your crazy robot. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:49, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Kill''' with fire. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Templated sigs are allowed by wiki policy; If you don't like it then change the policy rather than  trying to delete the template that allows them.--{{User:The General/sig}} 11:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#:Mind to show me where a policy directly grants the use of templated sigs as a right? Can't find it in [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Signature Policy|the sig policy]], nor do I see any other applicable policy. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 11:57, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#::The section that says: What would be allowed - Anything that isn't? --[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 12:01, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Kill''' this is terrible, I assume, so down with it or something. --'''<span style="font-size:95%">[[User:Katthew|<span style="color: #229922">カシュー</span>]]</span>''', <span style="font-size:80%">[[User:Katthew/Zombie Improvements|<span style="color: #229922">ザ ゾンビ クィーン</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:50%; color: #229922">'''('''[[The Dead 2.0|<span style="color: #229922">ビープ ビープ</span>]]''')'''</span> [[Image:Katthewsigtag.gif]] <span style="font-size:115%; color: #229922">'''@'''</span> 12:17, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - This template is linked to [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Nosubst|lots of stuff]].  Who is going to fix all of the broken links if this gets deleted?--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 12:24, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#:'''Me''', if nobody else does, and '''before''' it gets deleted. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 12:34, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''keep''' as above--&nbsp;[[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|link=User:Sexualharrison|18px]] &nbsp; <small> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</small><small>12:31, 2 May 2011 (utc)</small>
#'''Keep''' - just because I think General has a better option of dealing with this- it would also allow more comfortable transition period for those of us who do used the damned templated sigs. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:47, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 12:59, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  13:08, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Kill''' -- Honestly ok with this. Can we get rid of the signature policy next? Maybe replace it with something that simply says your sig can't impersonate other users, break pages, and needs to show who you are and leave it at that? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:41, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Kill''' Having looked at it,  seems fair, as long as rev wipes out the linked list. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 13:52, 2 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:Imthatguy/sig}} ''' 14:31, 2 May  2011 '''
#'''Keep''' It works fine. Has for years. Old folks coming back to the wiki will have to deal with some shit the first time they try to sign. Would be pretty off-putting I think. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] [[File:Etat.gif|link=http://on.cnn.com/lIVw45|Amurica. Fuck. Yeah]] <sub>22:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Delete''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:42, 3 May 2011 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' -obsolete --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 15:41, 3 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - The only way I'll be okay with a delete if there is a code length limit on signatures. So steal from WP, basically. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 23:56, 10 May 2011 (BST)
#:With the software update, signatures are now limited by the software to 255 characters. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 03:41, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::The Goon's signature (and probably others) still manage to be ridiculously big. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:33, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::They're subst'd in. If they were using {{tl|nosubst}} and signing using e.g. {{tl|Goonsig|<nowiki>SUBST:</nowiki>Nosubst{{!}}Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}}, they'd be breaking the template transclusion limit on every page they posted on in short order. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 04:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::That's not what I'm talking about; I'm talking about how long the code for their signatures are. It's very long. If templated signatures want to be deleted, it's better suited for policy discussion, provided a reasonable alternative is included (so no long signature codes, it makes me angry). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 04:44, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::I'm not sure you're understanding me, so I'll give you a demonstration… the invocation {{tl|Goonsig|Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}} gives {{Goonsig|Revenant}}, which is the same as what specifying {{tl|Goonsig|<nowiki>SUBST:</nowiki>Nosubst{{!}}Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}} '''as your signature''' results in. In contrast, using {{tl|Goonsig|<nowiki>SUBST:</nowiki>Goonsig{{!}}Revenant}} '''as your signature''' results in… <span style="font-size:xx-small; letter-spacing: -2px; text-shadow: #cc4444 1px 1px 10px">[[File:555Manbabies.gif|You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|link=User:Revenant]][[User:ShaqFu|<span style="color:#FF0018">&#124;</span>]][[User:Katthew|<span style="color:#33DD33">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#FF0048">&#124;</span>]][[User:SprCobra|<span style="color:#FF0060">&#124;</span>]][[User:Laughing Man|<span style="color:#FF0078">&#124;</span>]][[User:Revenant|<span style="color:#FF0090">&#124;</span>]][[User:underisk|<span style="color:#FF00A8">&#124;</span>]][[User:I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO|<span style="color:#FF00C0">&#124;</span>]][[User:DeRathi|<span style="color:#FF00D8">&#124;</span>]][[User:DerpDerp|<span style="color:#FF00F0">&#124;</span>]][[User:Abd al-Rahim ibn al-Husain al-'Iraqi|<span style="color:#FF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Sykic|<span style="color:#E700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Vaporware|<span style="color:#CF00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Nubis |<span style="color:#9F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Riseabove|<span style="color:#8700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Teehee McGee |<span style="color:#6F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Anothergenericzombie|<span style="color:#5700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Ryu|<span style="color:#0048ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Mortimer Wiley|<span style="color:#0044DD">&#124;</span>]][[User:Deadone|<span style="color:#3F00ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:woland37|<span style="color:#2700ff">&#124;</span>]][[User:Colbear|<span style="color:#0000dd">&#124;</span>]][[User:Oh no!|<span style="color:#27ff00">&#124;</span>]][[User:Bender Bending Rodriguez|<span style="color:#0F00ff">&#124;</span>]]</span>
#::::::I think what AHLG is saying is that without {{tl|nosubst}}, ''all'' code heavy signatures will add heavy amounts of code to pages when signing. The inclusion sizes don't matter to too many people as long as they don't have to wade through umpteen lines of code when they want to contribute to dicussion. My biggest issue with this deletion request is that it is being passed off as sensible software limitations. I don't believe sensible is the right word. ''Minimal'' or ''default'' software limits is more descriptive. Its like saying that the [[:category:If Templates|"if" templates]] are a crappy hack job because the software has sensible limits on parser functions. The wiki software sucks. It's vanilla. So what if there exists a hack to make it suck less? It's rare that anything is broken because of templated sigs. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::::It's really not as rare as it would be without Nosubst. Not to mention that with Nosubst gone it would mean that actually useful templates won't be excluded from pages like A/VB and A/M. It actually opens up possibilities for us that we currently have to code around.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:50, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::When I say rare I mean extremely rare. The only instance of page breakage in recent history was A/VB and it was due mostly to the whole of A/VB/Bots being transcluded. And then it only became a problem when we came under heavy bot attacks. That problem was easily solved by no longer transcluding A/VB/Bots, which was largely unecessary to begin with. It could also be argued that it was the size of the regular non-sig templates causing it to break. If any other possibilities will arise by deleting {{tl|nosubst}}, I fail to see what they may be. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::::::It actually really can't because the sig templates were actually being called ''multiple'' times in the inclusion chain. While it's easy enough to noinclude them and thus limit the amount of data being called through them superficially, that also compromises the purpose of signing needlessly. We shouldn't have to adapt how pages work because some users want to use a feature actually disabled by the software itself. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::Yes, the sigs were called multiple time but so were the non-sig templates due to the fact that the whole of A/VB/B being transcluded. In the case of the templated sigs, it was a template call ({{tl|nosubst}}), inside a template call (the template sig which themselves sometimes called on other templates) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). Similarly, with the non-sig templates, there were template calls ({{tl|usr}}), inside a template call ({{tl|vndl}}) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). The points I'm trying to make are that a) we've taken steps to correct page breaking on A/VB and b) it really wasn't necessary to transclude A/VB/B in the first place. Whatever value that A/VB/B added to A/VB was superficial and it is actually a lot simpler to just include links to it from [[MediaWiki:recentchangestext]] and [[MediaWiki:blockipsuccesstext]] and be done with it. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>14:40, 12 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::::::Vapor: Not at all. There is a wiki software setting to enable unsubstituted template signatures. Kevan has it set to the default, which is to disable them. When I described this as a “hack workaround”, that was the literal truth. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 07:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::That's not entirely accurate. Kevan hasn't set it to anything: When the wiki was first set up the setting wasn't available and templated signatures were allowed; a software update disallowed them and the setting to change that was only introduced later. We are forced to use this sort of hack due to the difficulty in getting Kevan to change the software.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 09:09, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::Yeah, I'm not disputing that it is a hack, I just don't agree that it is a worthless hack. I really don't believe Kevan made a conscious decision to turn off unsubstituted signatures way back when. Just like I don't think he intentionally set the max characters for raw signatures to 255. He likely just ran the update without any customization. I think we can reasonably leave {{tl|nosubst}} in place and any sigs that happen to break pages can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, as it has been done in the past. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:54, 11 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:::::What I am saying is that when I hit edit there is a heck of a lot of code to wade through. [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions&action=edit&section=8 Here is a sample from A/BP]. Removing templated signatures encourages code use, which wouldn't be so bad if some of the signatures (irrespective of the manner in which they are placed) are really code heavy. But besides any of that, what we are really talking about is the issue that templated signatures breaking similar templates and other templates on pages. A/VB is a good example, as are talk pages. A simple solution may be to not use templated signatures on just these pages if such a problem arises, and it rarely does, do as what Vapor said just above. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 16:32, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::It's been a while since I checked but I'm pretty sure that template signatures trigger a few different DB searches every time they're included on a page. All changing this does is force the search to happen once when the user signs instead of every single time someone edits the page for every single time the template appears on it. On top of that signatures larger than 255 characters have to call a template in their code so that can actually be sorta policed easily enough. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::So, it is to say that after I sign at the end of this comment, the code is merely substed in instead of as a template? Meaning that the code length isn't an issue for whatever is added in the corresponding preferences section. It's still an issue though to how long the code is at the end result. The issue for me hasn't to do with me wanting to keep this more complex templated signature, I'm fine changing this I just find the heavy code sigs cumbersome when I go to edit. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::I'm saying that without {{tl|GoonSig}} the goon's sigs wouldn't be possible because it's a template call made in Preferences that's substituting the template. We can police that because the template has to exist for them to call, like your sig. I'm also saying that your sig makes the server do a lot more work then, say, mine. Something on the order of 3-5 times the work with one inclusion of your sig. More every time a user uses a template signature. Mine adds to this page's DB content and gets called as part of the Page's call then run through the wiki-markup and sent to the browser so it can act on the html, yours adds to the actual processing of the page ''before'' we see it because it has to be interpreted by the wiki markup and then search the DB for the page you're referencing in the signature which then also has to be run through the wiki markup each and every single time someone loads the page for each and every time someone signs on it with a template signature. In the best case scenario it's done once per signature per page and referenced from that, at worse it's done once for every time you sign. Hopefully that answers some of the question because I'm kinda confused about what you were trying to say.--<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 23:07, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::It should be noted, however, that to say it is "3-5 times the load" is somewhat misleading because the queries take somewhere in the range of 0.003 seconds.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 23:36, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::I'm talking about actual stress on the server. Also should mention that that's actually not necessarily the case, especially on larger pages about these parts and larger signatures for that matter. The number of queries can have an impact in speed, and a notable one at that. Here's an example [[Suggestions/RejectedDecember2005]] vs [[User talk:Karek]]. The first has no expanding templates due to [[Special:LongPages|file size]], the second takes longer to load. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 05:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::I might be missing your point, Karek, but those don't seem to be good examples of pages breaking/server strain due to templated sig calls. Both have giant walls of text which cause them to be so large. When that happens, templates stop working properly. I can't find even a single attempt to call on a templated sig in your first example nor is there any extraneous template usage (just {{tl|prejection}} it seems). In your second example, nothing seems broken despite lots of templated sigs and it didn't seem to load any longer than any other page; not for my anyway. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#::::::::::::It was a comparison of text size vs number of calls and their effect on speed. Largely irrelevant now that I've archived my talk but [[User_talk:Karek/20110513132417|here]] is that archive. Should have the same visible effect. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::I am a also talking about server load, hence my comment that a database query takes very little time. Yes, more queries do have an impact on server load but it is not generally a major problem: In fact, a few large queries are a lot heavier on the server than lots of small ones. So, yeah, lots of massive template inclusions will hurt the server but so will lots of massive walls of text on a single page and most signature templates aren't that largem.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 08:45, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::::Unless we want to ask [[Kevan]] for some performance stats to settle this, can we stop waving our wiki-peens? {{tongue}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 08:54, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::::I would prefer to call it a "reasoned debate" {{Tongue}}.--<span>[[User:The General|The General]] <sup>[[User Talk:The General|T]] [[Project_UnWelcome|<span title="Project UnWelcome">U!</span>]] [[Project Wiki Patrol|<span title="Project Wiki Patrol">P!</span>]] <span class="stealthexternallink">[http://urbandeadwiki.smfforfree.com/index.php <span title="Urban Dead Wiki Forum">F!</span>]</span></sup></span> 14:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#::::::::::::::^This. Although we could probably move it to the talk page or {{tl|Nosubst}} talk page or something. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#:::::::::::::::Seconded, although keep the current discussion points here so for perspective voters. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>14:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Keep''' - after some serious pondering. I'd vote delete in a heartbeat if it had been that way all the time, but pulling it away now will cause a lot of issues for rarely active users. Adding substings to sigs occassionally, while not fun, is the lesser evil. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 17:02, 11 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I'm with Vapor and Gnome on this one.--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 23:42, 13 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - What problem is this fixing? Transclusion limits on high-traffic pages? If so, just ban templated sigs on the pages in question. Otherwise, I'm with AHLG. I do NOT want to read "lol" followed by 14 lines of code before I can see the next comment, which is what this would cause to happen far too often. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:49, 15 May 2011 (BST)


#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
'''Kept'''. 12 Keep votes and 6 Delete votes. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:22, 26 August 2009 (BST)


'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 26 August 2009 (BST)


====[[We Are Legend]]====
===[[Federal_Stafford_Loan_Program|Federal Stafford Loan Program]]===
Not been touched since last year when DDR added a category. Nadda in, nadda out. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
Oh, I guess this is how pages are deleted? It was some sort of weird spam. -[[User:Susan Bakersfield|Susan Bakersfield]] 03:22, 14 May 2011 (BST)
:Got this one when clearing out the [[A/VB/B|bots]]. It's best to report them there (although it gets done here anyway). Thanks <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:55, 14 May 2011 (BST)</small>


#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
===[[Smart Revive Policy]]===
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
The Smart Revive Policy was created in error and is effectively the [[No Random Revive Policy]]. It appears that [[User:Obsdark|Obsdark]] didn't read the [[No Random Revive Policy]], and just looked at the old title of the page. There is only a few pages that link to the [[Smart Revive Policy]] and those could be redirected to the [[No Random Revive Policy]]. I also updated the [[No Random Revive Policy]] to merge in any of the needed information from [[Smart Revive Policy]]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - this is a filibuster vote {{User:Nubis/sig}} 02:14, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' crit 1 though voting speedy seems kind of pointless due to the above "vote". ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:09, 27 April 2011</sub>
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:22, 26 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Technically crit 1, but seeing how Nubis is reading from the dictionary, it'll have to wait it out. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 13:50, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' Unneeded and inferior copy of an established tactic. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 14:24, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' - Criteria 1.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 14:41, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''delete'' this is a busterfily vote -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 17:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''keep''' As a [[Help:Redirection|Redirect]]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 21:25, 27 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - redirect <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 07:44, 3 May 2011 (BST)</small>
#'''Keep''' as the boxman --&nbsp;[[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|link=User:Sexualharrison| HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS! | 16px]] &nbsp; <small> [[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]]&nbsp;&nbsp;</small><small>06:31, 11 May 2011 (utc)</small>
#'''Keep''' - Redirect it--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 22:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)


'''Speedy Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:43, 26 August 2009 (BST)
5 to 5. '''Kept''' as a redirect. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
===[[The living]]===
Not really much in the way of content here. I'd like to have the page deleted so that I can use the name (with a capitol L). {{User:Clint_Clintstone/sig}} 10:35 21 April 2011 (EST)


====[[The experimentals]]====
#'''delete''' - never got off the ground etc. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 03:46, 22 April 2011 (BST)
Last edit was about two years ago by Vantar to at a category and no links in or out. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - This is both history, a group that existed(and we don't delete disbanded groups just 'cause), and also a page stuffed full of content when [[The Dead|context]] is shown. We killed crit 12 for a reason. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 03:52, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep'''. Its well linked. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 11:04, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#:My arse. it has like 8 and you made half of them years ago and only because they mentioned the dead? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig4}} 12:07, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#::Sorry, its referred to as part of the did you know section of the wiki, I don't know why Clint doesn't just use [[The Living]] --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 12:28, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep'''. As Ross. You don't have to get rid of that page to create [[The Living]]. And we could also add a disambiguation notice on top of the page to refer to the older/newer group respectively. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 12:47, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#:This^. Especially since they're both unique pages and the stats page links by caps(like the whole wiki). --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 13:42, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Above.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>13:46 22 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
#'''Delete''' Just another of those "exists only on paper" kind of groups with no real content, the kind of which we deleted hundreds of. -- [[Image:Cat Pic.png|14px]] [[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''Thadeous Oakley''']]</span> [[User_Talk:MisterGame|<span style= "color: black; background-color: white">'''''Talk''''']]</span>  13:59, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - this page doesn't stop you using the capital L space... and anyway, afaik, this one is just a reactionary page to [[The Dead]]... puppy tears, and all that, y'know {{tongue}} <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 15:08, 22 April 2011 (BST)</small>
#:He'll find it difficult to do as that [[The Living]] is now in use. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asheets|Asheets]] 16:15, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' SHUT THE FUCK UP!. i loled.--<small><div style="display: inline-block; height: 14px; width: 18px; overflow: hidden; vertical-align: text-bottom;">[[User:Sexualharrison|<span style="position: absolute; display: block; font-size: 0px; height: 14px; width: 18px;"> </span>]][[Image:Boobs.sh.siggie.gif|18px]]</div>&nbsp;&nbsp;[[User talk:Sexualharrison|<span style="color:Red">bitch</span>]]&nbsp;</small><small>16:19, 22 April 2011</small>
#'''Delete''' - get out. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 17:50, 22 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - this is a filibuster vote {{User:Nubis/sig}} 23:57, 23 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Sure, why not - [[User:DeRathi|Serious Post]] {{User:DeRathi/Sig}}  15:27, 24 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - We're already deleting the living from the game, why not have a reminder they once existed here? --[[User:Laughing Man|Laughing Man]] 15:44, 24 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Weak Keep''' - As Karek and Ross, but weaker. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 16:18, 24 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Karek and Ross. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Spiderzed.--[[User:Yonnua Koponen|<span style="color: DarkOrange">Yonnua Koponen</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Yonnua Koponen| <span style="color:Gold">T</span>]][[DvB| <span style="color: Goldenrod">G</span>]]</sup><sup><span class="stealthexternallink">[http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=840689 <span style="color: DarkGoldenrod"> P</span>] </span></sup> [[User:Yonnua Koponen/Sandbox|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[Discosaurs|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]][[{{TALKPAGENAME}}#Donkey|<span style="color: Red">^</span>]] 17:40, 26 April 2011 (BST)


#'''Delete''' -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:48, 25 August 2009 (BST)
Kept with 12 Keeps and 4 Deletes. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#'''Speedy Delete''' - So lacking in content it's a crit 1. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:01, 25 August 2009 (BST)
===[[Bookmarks]]===
#'''Delete''' - As everyone else.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
I wanted to make a page under my username, but instead made this. I already remade the page under my user-name, [[User:ShadowScope/Bookmarks|here]], so I would like for you to delete this page (somebody else may want to use Bookmarks in the future, and I don't want to waste space).--[[User:ShadowScope|ShadowScope]]<sup>[[User:Kevan|'the true enemy']]</sup> 02:33, 1 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:39, 25 August 2009 (BST)
:EDIT: Also requesting a Speedy Delete, if that is all possible.--[[User:ShadowScope|ShadowScope]]<sup>[[User:Kevan|'the true enemy']]</sup> 02:34, 1 May 2011 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - Crit 1. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 05:22, 26 August 2009 (BST)
::'''Scheduled''' – Speedy, Crit 7 by proxy. All gone. {{smile}} {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 03:56, 1 May 2011 (BST)
'''Speedy deleted''' --{{User:The General/sig}} 08:40, 26 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[:Image:Krotch.jpg]]===
Because no one wants to see someone else grabbing their crotch.... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 00:59, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' As Above..... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 00:59, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - What is this, Brainsuck?--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 01:53, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Tame user image. Watch out J3D. They'll be heading [[Amusing_Locations_in_Malton|your way]] soon. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:55, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#:Because the <b>[[Prosser Prosse|PP]]</b> was tame too.... Seriously though, one would be slightly offended to see this in RL, why tolerate it here? Just because you don't actually know them? Or because they don't know/care who they offend? Personally, I don't care. I'm just after some sense of Neutrality.  -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 02:10, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#::I figured that one was going because it was made by someone other than a group member for the intent to ridicule them. What next? The [[Amusing_Locations_in_Malton/Malton_Girl_on_Girl_Parade|Girl on Girl Parade]] because it has lesbians in it? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 02:13, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#:::Actually, if you'll note down below, these are along the same lines as what CyberBob had tried to delete as porn, and all of his I voted down. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 02:51, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#:::Akule! If you don't slow down with the linking/mentioning of ALiM projects you'll put me out of work...--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:55, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Nothing remotely wrong with it. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 02:41, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:09 11 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Keep''' - Poodle, this is nothing like the ones I put up. Those were (I thought) ambiguous; this is rather ''un''ambiguously not porn. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:12, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#:I didn't say this one was, just that the one Akule referenced was. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:39, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|LightSkyBlue}}-- 03:21, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - All men do it, it's an honored tradition.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 04:36, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#:I guess your right. I frequently see people scratching their nuts just before they shake hands with me. I must say, I do have to give you the benifit of the doubt though. Micheal Jackson did it regularly on stage,..... and for little boys so I hear. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 04:54, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#::You are just.....not funny? Like, devoid of any wit at all....it's terrible to see.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 05:11, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' but delete User:PoOdLe oF dOoM because he is so fucking gay--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 05:11, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 09:18, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - YOU CANNOT DENY ME MY CROTCH GRABBING JOY!!! {{User:Dudemeister/sig}} 10:07, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - MUST touch this! <span style="color: #4ABF0E"><sub>p</sub><sup>y</sup></span>[[User:Pyxzer|<span style="color:#4ABF0E">x]]<span style="color: #4ABF0E"><sup>z</sup></span><sub>[[User_talk:Pyxzer|<span style="color:#FF2811">e]]</span></sub><sup>[[User:Pyxzer/Alexander_Stoy|<span style="color:#EEF94A">r</span>]]</sup></span> 10:27, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - What exactly is the problem with this image? I don't get it. --[[User:Chekken|Chekken]] 15:42, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''[[Keep|Delete]]''' - great jerk material.  --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:56, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' take it up with your church's morality group and/or write your senator. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:25, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep'''--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 15:33, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Blech.  Get a sense of humor.  In before you put [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:5oN09.jpg this drarwring] up for deletion.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 15:56, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Get a fucking life. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 00:49, 13 August 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' ^ --<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN</span>]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Community Sysop Demotion|<span style="color:#000000">WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 05:30, 19 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Kept''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:51, 25 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Irish Templars]]===
An inactive group according to their talk page. Not historical. No recent changes. An idle group, and page,...really....
 
#'''Delete''' As above. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 17:46, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Disk space is cheap. And we got rid of crit (cant remember) 10? is it? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:15, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#:Disk space is cheap,... until you have to pay for it. Second of all, what's criteria 10 got to do with it? Don't you mean Crit. 12? If your going to argue a point with someone,.... at least put some intelegence in it.... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 19:11, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#::12. Yep thats it. Thanks. No need to be so critical. I'm not having a go at your "intelligence". --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:47, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#:::Disk space is cheap is a retarded KEEP vote that will never be justified. Why even have this page if that is a valid vote? Also, Ross, the crits are at the top of the page, man.  Just scroll up. --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 22:16, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#::::But I enjoy looking retarded. Can I just steal Giles' justification? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:22, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#:::::Go ahead...try to insult me. Might as well have a go at it....Obviously the scroll wheel on the mouse was to complicated... I don't fear anything you'd have to say. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 01:46, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::....um? Good? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:29, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::Obviously the indent system is ''too complicated''.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 18:37, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' I like stumbling across these old group pages.  Sure they aren't going to recruit anyone but it adds history to the wiki, without having to be granted historical status.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 19:30, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#:Now this is what I was talking about earlier. This is a well thought out arguement.... I guess this is true.... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 19:38, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 20:08, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' There is actual content.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 22:16, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Damn, Giles has one fine looking reasoning. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:36, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Disk Space = CHEEP--<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN</span>]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Community Sysop Demotion|<span style="color:#000000">WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 02:03, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - There are hundreds of pages just like this on the wiki and all of them have a right to stay. Inactivity is no longer a critereon for deletion of a group page. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|LightSkyBlue}}-- 02:19, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#:It's no longer a ''Speedy Deletion'' criterion, you mean. Removing Crit 12 doesn't mean that literally every inactive group should automatically be Kept on A/D. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:12, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#::It doesn't, but what I was saying was there is no reason why a group like this should be considered for deletion at all. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|LightSkyBlue}}-- 06:15, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Has content. Just slap an {{[[Template:InactiveGroup|InactiveGroup]]}} template on it if it's truly inactive. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:34, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#:Consider the suggestion taken. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:36, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Inactivity is not sufficient reason for deleting a group page which actually has some decent content on it. I hate to say it, but Giles is talking sense.--{{User:The General/sig}} 22:44, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Abstain''' - I'm just not too sure at the moment--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 09:02, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' - bored much, puddle of dumb? --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:26, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As above -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:44, 19 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Kept''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:37, 23 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Free Zones]]===
No real content, outdated & abandoned, minimal incoming links. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:37, 3 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 00:06, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 01:56, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:05, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - and move to a [[A really pissed off one|group]] sub-page <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:59 4 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' - No point in moving to a group page if the groups is also abandoned.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 03:19, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Turn into a Glossary page as a common vocabulary term that's been accepted by the [[NAFZ|community for years.]] --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:24, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As karek--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 19:20, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' It's easy enough to expand, and add to. Why not keep it? -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 05:02, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Abstain''' I'm just not too sure at the moment--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 09:03, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''delete''' - pointless --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:27, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#:No but that as a delete criteria pretty much is. Do you even bother to think about why you're voting before deciding what you're voting? Since when is explaining commonly used terminology pointless? --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 07:24, 14 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - but only just. In need of expansion, as Karek. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:40, 14 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Kept''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:38, 17 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Mall Defense Rating]]===
Article rating the safety of malls on an arbitrary scale. Orphaned. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:37, 3 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 00:06, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 01:56, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:05, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - plenty of on topic content <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:56 4 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#:It's nothing that isn't repeated in countless other guides. It's okay to delete on-topic pages if they're just plain bad. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:02, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#::Is there another "mall rating" guide out there? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:11 4 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#:::Oh, that's what you mean? I thought you were talking about the little reasonings behind the points allocations. No there is no "mall rating" guide out there and I fail to see why we need one - let alone one as bad as this. The whole concept of "grading" malls is awful. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:17, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - And possibly flesh out a little to include alternative ratings systems on this subject like the ones discussed on the Suburbs page in the past. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev/OmegaMap|maps?!]]</font></sup></small> 04:26, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 19:39, 8 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Yeh pretty orphaned.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 19:28, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Hasn't this been deleted once before?--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 20:58, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - It's a creative idea. I like it...it seems relevant and useful. --[[User:Chekken|Chekken]] 15:40, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Abstain''' Let it ride for a bit--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 09:04, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' has viable content. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:29, 12 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:38, 17 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Munoz Files]]===
Doesn't seem useful, orphaned. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:37, 3 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 00:06, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 01:56, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:05, 4 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - old and useless <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:02 4 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' - yeh this should be in the user's subspace somewhere but the user is gone.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 19:23, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' This may sound ridiculouse, but I think it's kind of a neet little project page. Is there anyway to track down the subjects mentioned and move the relevent data to their profiles if they want it? -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 19:29, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' Could have been an interesting article, but it isn't organized very well and it's been orphaned for quite a while. --[[User:Chekken|Chekken]] 15:37, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''merge''' as subpage of user who made it. it has content, so shouldn't be just deletion, sigh. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:31, 12 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Wan. User content, move to userspace. It's old and the user is gone but it won't hurt us either way. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|LightSkyBlue}}-- 15:27, 12 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 00:38, 17 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Prosser Prosse]]===
This is a page made by [[User:Chekken|someone]] who isn't a member of the [[Prosser Posse|actual group]] <sup>(note the slight spelling diff)</sup>. The page is totally misleading, I was at Fort Perryn during the latest siege, and I only saw one member of the Prosser Posse there, on one day, and that was Colonel bustass, who Chekken also took it upon himself to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Colonel_bustass&oldid=1531814 make a user page for]. Basically, it's a group page, made by a non-group member, with no intent but to ridicule them <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:52 10 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:52 10 August 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' - Good spotting. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:04, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - it's not even good satire, it's not even remotely funny--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 04:06, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 05:36, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As Bob, nice detective skills Box. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|LightSkyBlue}}-- 06:12, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - As DDR. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:37, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - {{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 16:40, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''DELETE''' Thanks for putting this up for me <s>Bob</s> Boxy,... I was just coming to do it now if it hadn't been. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:31, 10 August 2009 (BST)
#'''DO NOT DELETE''' It's fucking humour! Lighten up, for pete's sakes. If you can't take a joke, leave the damn page and go to another one. And to "sexylegsread", that is simply your own sense of humour. Just because you don't find it funny doesn't mean someone else will. I for one must have found it incredibly funny, otherwise I wouldn't have wrote it. You can't just say it isn't funny or that it should be deleted based on one or two people's opinion; that is a ludicrous position to take.
#:My reason for writing that page is because THERE IS NO PROSSER PROSSE and I wrote the group name several times while explain the Fort Perryn siege that happened recently. The only one who could possibly be personally offended by this page is Colonel Bustass herself. She has been in my contacts list for quite a while and has since gone inactive.
#:I feel that deleting the page is a step too far, since I have yet to be given a chance to edit it or include factual information at all. I wrote the page not even a day ago, so it is a work in progress. I have nothing against Colonel Bustass personally, and simply found humour in what she was saying and doing when I met her in-game. I feel that I am being treated unfairly without a warning or a chance to improve myself, as I am still a newbie and have only been editing articles for a few weeks. -- [[User:Chekken|Chekken]] 03:43, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#::Wow,... got some pent up aggression there bubba? -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:53, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#:::Forget the whole thing. You're right; the article is stupid. I'll never write another humour article as long as I live. '''Please change my vote to Delete'''--[[User:Chekken|Chekken]] 04:38, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#::::Oh, but changing your vote to Delete for you would be vandalism my friend. Only you can edit your works. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 04:52, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#::::If you're going to vote delete on your own article I'm going to Speedy Delete this. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:53, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#:::::Oh for the love of christ. Please just do it, and be rid of this conflict. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 04:57, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#::::::It would have been done already were it not for that edit conflict. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:59, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedy Deleted''' - Crit 7. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 04:59, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[:Image:Screenshot cyberbob.jpg|Screenshot cyberbob.jpg]]===
Criteria 7. Used for the Cyber Bob A/D Case below. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:45, 11 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' As above. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:45, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Speedy Deleted''' - I invite you to use [[A/SD]] as the default page if you think whatever you're submitting comes under one of the SD criteria. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:49, 11 August 2009 (BST)
:Sounds great.... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:50, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[The Valhalla Organization]]===
This page is severly lacking in content. The front Page says the group has been under construction since December 5<sup>th</sup>, 2008 (8 Months!). Looking at the history, it hasn't been edited since just under a month. The article is little more than a stub, with no one in particular looking to work on it,... or so it would seem. Criteria 1? -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:50, 28 July 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' As Above.... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:50, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#<s>'''Delete'''--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 04:02, 28 July 2009 (BST)</s>
#:'''Keep''' as below. --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 07:22, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - The construction notice is wrong, the page has only been there since the 4th. So basically, it's a little over 2 weeks old. Give the user some more time, a couple more weeks, before deleting his stuff. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 04:11, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#:I assume you have to hand enter the Date on this particular template, correct? I assumed this to be the case, and that the original author had been referencing the fact that the group itself had been under construction since the 5<sup>th</sup> of December, not the page itself. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 04:42, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#::He would have entered December 2008 manually, which could mean many things, namely, he made a mistake, the group has existed since December 2008 except not in wiki form, the information is being transferred from another page or he simply copied an existing (and random) group page's style and forgot to modify the template's data. Regardless of it, the page has only existed for 2 weeks and deserves ample opportunity to get off the ground before being deleted. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 08:28, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#:::Looking more and more like a semi-clone of [[Cosa Nostra|this]]. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 09:03, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - For a little while at least. Poodle, it's obviously a bad copy job from another group, just click on the leader and see how it leads back to Sonny... and he's almost certainly not leading that group. They probably just forgot to replace/check everything when they copied a whole page over. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 05:13, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Some people get busy give him a lil bit more time --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 09:08, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:44, 3 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:05, 4 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Kept''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 03:25, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[User:Cyberbob]]===
I believe this to be an unused user page, or one that was missed during a deletion. I have a screenshot of what I saw, while looking for the real Cyberbob's profile page located at [[:Image:Screenshot cyberbob.jpg|Screenshot cyberbob.jpg]] if anyone wants to see what I saw prior to adding the delete template. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 01:11, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' As above, and per Criteria 11, and possably Criteria 4. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 01:11, 11 August 2009 (BST)
'''Scheduled deletion''' of non-existent user page. BTW, Poodle, there was no page there until you created it by putting the {{tl|delete}} template on it, clown <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:06 11 August 2009 (BST)</small>
:I've [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ANoarticletext&diff=1537810&oldid=833956 changed the text of that message] now, to avoid future "misunderstandings" <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:14 11 August 2009 (BST)</small>
::I see. Sorry for the confusion. Normally when there is a page like that, you get the Edit Box,... and can go from there,... I just saw that, and thought it was missed. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:43, 11 August 2009 (BST)
 
FUCKING LOL. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 08:58, 12 August 2009 (BST)
:I believe I am having the same problem with User:FUCKING HILARIOUS FAIL, it seemed to be unused, but I though I might reserve it for Poodle of Doom--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 09:06, 12 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Urban Dead Soundtrack]]===
Hasn't really been edited since my last post in may of 2007. I think there's only been one edit since then, but otherwise, it's a stub,.... it seems to be an abandoned project page. Possable Criteria 1? -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 17:46, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
#<s>'''Delete''' As above. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 17:46, 9 August 2009 (BST)</s> '''Speedy Delete''' Changed my vote to speedy... let's get this done and over with. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 19:15, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - short enough for crit 1 methinks. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:48, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' as rooster --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:15, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 20:08, 9 August 2009 (BST)
:Deleted. Speedily --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:16, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
===Unused Redirects===
[[EVIL!]], and [[Evil]],... Criteria 3, Criteria 7. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 17:46, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Speedy Delete''' As above.... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 17:46, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' Author requested. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 18:15, 9 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - '''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 20:08, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
:Speeddily deleeted! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 20:15, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
 
===[[Malton Rippers Basketball Team]]===
''Originally from A/SD'' Minimal flavour page with links to [[Rodges Stadium]], pretty short in its current form. Could do with some expansion if kept, otherwise let's nuke a rare-visited backwater page. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:12, 23 July 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Keep''' - Could be expanded.--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 17:24, 23 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - pages like this make the wiki more interesting. Also [[MRFC]]. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:01, 25 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 03:31, 25 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' - Shit page, pretty short in its current form. Could do with some expansion if kept, otherwise let's nuke a rare-visited backwater page.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 04:13, 25 July 2009 (BST)
# Unless someone jumps to expand it before the two weeks is up, delete it.--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 19:35, 25 July 2009 (BST)
#:But disk space=cheep! --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 22:03, 25 July 2009 (BST)
#::And I'm p sure that ''everyone'' can ''easily'' tell that my vote down there was a delete. :P --[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 22:12, 25 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' I actually really like this page and agree with MRFC --[[User:C Whitty|C Whitty]] 09:10, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:44, 3 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Might as well I guess. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 02:05, 4 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Kept''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 08:46, 7 August 2009 (BST)
 
===2 stoopid===
*'''[[2 motherfucking Cool]]''' - crit 3
A totally unnecessary redirect, and that's even if you ignore the motherfucking swearing in the page title
 
#'''keep''' on the redirect. How can a page that just got created mere hours ago be expected to have an army of links to it? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:26, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#:It's a ridiculous redirect anyway, only made for posing. You haven't got a redirect from [[2Cool]] (atm), yet you want one that takes at least twice the time to type as the actual pagename. Way to get promote your group via admin pages. But fine, we'll take that one to deletions for more advertising time <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:36 20 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#::thanks box, you're a darl.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:38, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:44 20 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#'''Delete''' {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:46, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --{{User:The General/sig}} 10:00, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete'''--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 14:06, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 14:08, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' Enough said... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:37, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#:lol.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:15, 21 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' - Unused redirect. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 01:01, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#:"If 3 Speedy Deletes are lodged, and there are no Keep Votes, the page will be deleted as per Speedy Deletions." It's scary someone as familiar with the wiki as you is totally unfamiliar with basic policy :\ --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:20, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#::Doesn't mean he can't vote for it. Sheesh. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 03:46, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#:::I did it the other day when I had to run but still felt the need to input on a deletions vote :/. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:44, 28 July 2009 (BST)
#'''FUCKING MEGA-KEEP'''--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 15:44, 29 July 2009 (BST)
#:''"There are four vote types: Delete. Merge. Speedy Delete. Keep."'' It's scary someone as familiar with the wiki as you is totally unfamiliar with basic policy :\ --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 00:20, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#::Mega keeps are just keep votes times 2 you know that already omigosh.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 10:06, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#:::Fucking ditch that shit its keep times 6 at the very least--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 10:06, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#'''FUCKING MEGA-DELETE''' - Gotta cancel out all those keep votes somehow --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 12:05, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#:I shouldnt have let my secret out of the bag--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 04:36, 3 August 2009 (BST)
 
'''Deleted''' {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 09:45, 3 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[The Urban Dead Wiki Comics Page]]===
 
#<s>Delete</s> Mistakes Were Made has not answered and Noodles seems to be dead. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:15 19 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#:'''Keep''' If some people still want it, far be it from me to stand in their way.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>22:32 20 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#'''Keep''' - if poodle wants to improve it, so should it be kept. But I suggest a pagemove to [[Urban Dead Comics]] or similar <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 02:18 20 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#:<s>SpeedyDelete</s> - crit 7 <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 23:03 19 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#:: Can you link a post where the author says he wants it deleted? --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 00:04, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#:::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FDeletions&diff=1512509&oldid=1512335 here] --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 00:15, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#::::ie. Zombie Lord (the author) nominated it here. Still, I've changed my mind, if someone is going to expand it. The wiki needs a portal for humourous fan art, IMO <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 07:24 20 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#:Could someone make sure to let me know how this vote turns out via my talk page? If it is kept, I will immediatly see that the maintance for this page. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:24, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedydelete''', as boxy --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 00:15, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''KEEP''' This is funny stuff.... But that doesn't mean anything. I personally would like to see it kept, and would love to see to the maitanence of the page if no body else wants to. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 00:36, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' as above + Disk space = CHEEP --<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN</span>]] [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion/Community Sysop Demotion|<span style="color:#000000">WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 01:53, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#:Come up with something better.... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 03:44, 21 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy''' - As Boxy. Take it to [[A/SD]] next time. Thanks. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 01:55, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I'm pretty sure my vote counts for nothing, just like in presidential elections, but at least I tried. {{User:Met fan/sig}} 14:58, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep/Move''' - As boxy. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:31, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Boxy --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:04, 21 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Boxy. --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 00:33, 21 July 2009 (BST)
:Kept. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:12, 2 August 2009 (BST)
 
===Images===
Take out my trash, garbage-bitches.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:06 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>
 
[[:Image:VMByers.png]] [[:Image:VMClerck.png]] [[:Image:VMMidelton.png]] [[:Image:VMHoldway.png]] [[:Image:VMSpeak.png]] [[:Image:VMParrot.png]] [[:Image:VMSilley.png]] [[:Image:VMDuport.png]] [[:Image:VMPepperell.png]] [[:Image:VMWasteland90-4.png]] [[:Image:VMWasteland99-3.png]] [[:Image:VMNott.png]] [[:Image:VMVannellefactory.png]] [[:Image:VMCarpark96-3.png]] [[:Image:VMDowne.png]] [[:Image:VMWasteland94-3.png]] [[:Image:VMAnacletus.png]] [[:Image:VMWarehouse92-3.png]] [[:Image:VMWaddington.png]] [[:Image:VMTownsend.png]] [[:Image:VMCemetery.png]] [[:Image:VMBarbara.png]] [[:Image:VMMuch.png]] [[:Image:VMAnne.png]] [[:Image:VMWeston.png]] [[:Image:VMTurvill.png]] [[:Image:VMBeach.png]] [[:Image:VMMuncey.png]] [[:Image:VMBridgman.png]] [[:Image:VMPurt.png]] [[:Image:VMTrood.png]] [[:Image:VMHamertonroad.png]] [[:Image:VMMogridgedrive.png]] [[:Image:VMBellotstreet.png]] [[:Image:VMWarehouse95-1.png]] [[:Image:VMCullenway.png]] [[:Image:VMPerryn.png]] [[:Image:VMLovelway.png]] [[:Image:VMAndow.png]] [[:Image:VMHowell.png]] [[:Image:VMTroubridge.png]] [[:Image:VMLeesonalley.png]] [[:Image:VMBeale.png]] [[:Image:VMSpicer.png]] [[:Image:VMClewett.png]] [[:Image:VMNaisbitt.png]] [[:Image:VMOakewalk.png]] [[:Image:VMDaewoongFactory.png]] [[:Image:VMW91-0.png]] [[:Image:VMMold.png]]
 
#'''Delete''' - {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:06 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>
#'''Speedy Delete''' Criterion 7. --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 22:09, 1 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedy Delete''' - You could at least put your trash into the right bin. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:36, 1 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Speedydelete''' - holy shit. Do you want all your [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=Zombie+Lord&namespace=2 map pages] (that these are used on) gone too? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 03:31 2 August 2009 (BST)</small>
:'''Speedily Deleted''' the images. Like Boxy says though, do you want [[Special:Prefixindex/User:Zombie Lord/VM|every one of these]] gone too? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 03:45, 2 August 2009 (BST)
::Yeah, they can be chucked. Thanks, R-Man.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>03:55 2 August 2009(BST)</tt>
:::Done. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 04:42, 2 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[:Image:Boobs_beer_and_barhah.jpg]]===
Not pornographic, but certainly not family-friendly. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:02, 17 July 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:02, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I don't even think I can explain how retarded this is, sorry. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:05, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#:Hey, I'm just playing along with the "wishes of the community". --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:06, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 05:07, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>05:07 17 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#'''Keep''' - sigh --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 04:41, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:14, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Fuck you and your clear personal agenda, Bob.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 05:14, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Argo. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 05:18, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - and because the act of submitting these for deletion is vandalism. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 05:28, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Grow up and stop trolling. --{{User:Darth Sensitive/Sig}} 05:32, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#:I am being perfectly serious. Stop assuming the worst. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:34, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' not porn and that was confirmed last time someone put this up. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 08:23, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' same as argo and hal --<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>
]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 08:39, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Grow up, Babybob.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 09:38, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - No. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:29, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' : ( ----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 17:37, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Fuck off back to the Victorian era. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 17:40, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Nothing even remotely wrong with that picture. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 18:06, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:N0RDAK|N0RDAK]] 21:38, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast Wikis are not family friendly.] --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 03:26, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 03:49, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' Not voting as a sysop, but as a user and as a woman. Stop Objectifying Women! --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:56, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#:All those nights I spent fantasising about the person behind the Newbiz. I'm ''not'' a freak! --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 14:46, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#::It's all lies.  I never post as just a user! :D --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 23:18, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - as per Thad (holy crap I agreed with him on something) --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 22:55, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I think someone doesnt like boobs *rolleyes* --[[User:Skouth|Skouth]] 23:00, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Because the human body is awsome and should not be bleeped out,--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 23:58, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Stop oppressing my gender and our cleavage rights! {{User:Dudemeister/sig}} 00:29, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - 'cause it's awesome, how dare you doubt that Bob D: -- {{User:SpuD/Sig}} 00:39, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - 8===D  --{{User:Fifth_Element/sig}} 00:42, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:KyleStyle|KyleStyle]] 00:47, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As fiffy --<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span> [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 01:49, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As above. --[[User:Drugsanimudongs|Drugsanimudongs]] 04:38, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Boobs are cool [[User:Ephraim|Ephraim]] 22:17, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' <b>How many people really knew this existed before today? I didn't! Thanks for making me look at an objectified woman! If you had just speedy deleted it as ''Porn'', who'd of been the wiser?</b> -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:42, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Gross but not porn.  And I'd vote to keep a man objectified in the same way.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:22, 21 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Grow up. [[User:Marcusfilby|Marcusfilby]] 07:04, 24 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Nothing says BARHAH like bloody zombie sweater meats. --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[The Kilt Store]]</sub> 19:33, 27 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' -Really?-{{User:Alvaromesa/Sig}}
:Kept. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:29, 1 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[:Image:Boobs.gif]]===
Not pornographic, but certainly not family-friendly. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:02, 17 July 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Delete''' --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:02, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I don't even think I can explain how retarded this is, sorry. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:05, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 05:07, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>05:07 17 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#'''Keep''' - sigh --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 04:41, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:14, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 05:15, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 05:18, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' -- and remove these deletion requests as acts of vandalism. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 05:29, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Grow up and stop trolling. --{{User:Darth Sensitive/Sig}} 05:32, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#:I am being perfectly serious. Stop assuming the worst. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:34, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Dam that image is on ALOT of pages... apperently noone thought there was anything terrible about it --<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>
]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 08:41, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' there are few things in life as friendly as a pair of bouncing boobs.... even babies love em for some reason? --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 08:54, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Please continue with looking like a complete idiot :/.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 09:39, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - If Cyberbob ''really'' wanted to make the wiki family-friendly, then he wouldn't stop here. He's start getting rid of things like: [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&redirs=0&searchx=1&search=shit&limit=500&offset=0 this], [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&redirs=0&searchx=1&search=fuck&limit=500&offset=0 this], [[:Image:Teampooping.jpg|this]], [[:Category:Amusing_Locations|about everything in here]], etc. However, this is clearly a case of someone who is trying to settle a score with certain people. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 11:36, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - No. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:29, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''KEEP''' Are you kidding me? family friendly? Coming from you? Bob stop being a douche. this is what your doing with your new shiny sysop buttons? wow, you do need to get a life.----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 17:36, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Fuck off back to the Victorian era. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 17:40, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Wiki doesn't have to be family friendly. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 18:05, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Yay for boobs. --[[User:N0RDAK|N0RDAK]] 21:38, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast Wikis are not family friendly.] --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 03:26, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 03:49, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' This image is offensive to women.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:56, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - If this image is offensive, then try not to stare at it --{{User:The Colonel/Sig}} 22:54, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Because the human body is awsome and should not be bleeped out,--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 23:58, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Image is older than the internet and everyone loves it like an old friend! -- [[User:SpuD|SpuD]] 00:20, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As a woman I will be extremely offended if this image is deleted. {{User:Dudemeister/sig}} 00:22, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - 8===D  --{{User:Fifth_Element/sig}} 00:23, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:KyleStyle|KyleStyle]] 00:47, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Nothing wrong with a nice pair of breasts! --{{User:Aphelion/sig}} 01:04, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Zombies are not family friendly, or guns, or violence etc. Anyone moving to delete content involving any of those? --{{User:Gus_Thomas/Sig}} 01:40, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#yes. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:43, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As fiffy --<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span> [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 01:49, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I don't see how this is offensive to women, seeing as she at least consented to it, if she didn't outright film it herself. And as far as being family-friendly goes... I'm pretty sure a wiki that also has an entry on something called "Headshot" is not aiming to score points with protective parents. --[[User:Drugsanimudongs|Drugsanimudongs]] 04:44, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' - those are my boobs, I could care less about the other pics--{{User:AnimeSucks/Sig}} 11:18, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Boobs are cool [[User:Ephraim|Ephraim]] 22:17, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''KEEP''' How can these be boobs? They don't even have nipples stupid! -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:47, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Time to grow up.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:23, 21 July 2009 (BST)
#'''fucking keep'''. The only good thing on this shithole. I come here whenever I need to come.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 15:01, 21 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - fags --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 06:03, 24 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - As Giles. [[User:Marcusfilby|Marcusfilby]] 07:05, 24 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - If God didn't want you to look at boobs, he wouldn't have made them so bouncy and fun. --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[The Kilt Store]]</sub> 19:37, 27 July 2009 (BST)
:Kept. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:29, 1 August 2009 (BST)
 
===[[:Image:Zombie Mistress NT Casefile.jpg]]===
Borderline pornographic. I'd delete it on sight as per the recent scheduled deletions vote but hey! Drama! --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 04:40, 17 July 2009 (BST)
 
#'''Keep''' - sigh --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 04:41, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Fuck you, bob. And... FTR this page has survived two attempts by puritans to get it deleted. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 04:42, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 04:52, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 04:54, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>05:01 17 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#'''Keep''' - Wut. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 05:01, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#:Well apparently if the gay images I got for my birthday are porn then so are the ones going up for deletion today!!!! --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:03, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' Copyright Violation. [[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[Moderation|mod]] [[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 05:14, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#:i just noticed this... ''copyright violation'' !? WTF, CONN ?! --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 21:15, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 05:16, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 05:18, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Grow up and stop trolling. --{{User:Darth Sensitive/Sig}} 05:32, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#:I am being perfectly serious. Stop assuming the worst. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:34, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''keep''' not porn and that was confirmed last time someone put them up. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 08:24, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Slightly Weak Keep''' - Goes a bit further than other ones but not pornographic --<b>[[User:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">DOWN WITH</span>]] [[User talk:Imthatguy|<span style="color:#000000">THE</span>
]] [[Template:Revolution|<span style="color:#000000">'CRATS!!!</span>]] | [[The Brotherhood of Nod|<span style="color:#800000">Join Nod!!!</span>]]</b> 08:42, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Borderline, but it should stay.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 09:40, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - No. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:29, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Fuck off back to the Victorian era. --[[User:The Hierophant|Papa Moloch]] 17:41, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#:durpadurp --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 17:41, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' FUCK YOU BOB. i can't believe i have to make this many edits in one day. I hate coming to these pages.. now you made us all into fucking trolls. GREAT JOB ASSWIPE.----[[User:Sexualharrison|Sexualharrison]][[Image:Starofdavid2.png | 18px]] [[Image:Boobs.gif|18px]] 17:43, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 18:07, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --[[User:N0RDAK|N0RDAK]] 21:39, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Petty deletion request. --{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 03:26, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 03:49, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Delete''' This creates unrealistic body images of women. Think of the little girls that will starve themselves to look like this. A shame.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 13:58, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#:It's not unrealistic; PEOPLE ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE THAT. {{User:Dudemeister/sig}} 00:26, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' Think of the little girls that will starve themselves to look like this.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:59, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#:Well played! --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 23:19, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Because the human body is awsome and should not be bleeped out,--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 23:59, 18 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - even though I wouldn't :D -- [[User:SpuD|SpuD]] 00:24, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - {{User:Dudemeister/sig}} 00:26, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:Fifth_Element/sig}} 00:44, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#:there wouldn't have been a shoutout on irc to vote keep for this would there? :P --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 01:38, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - --[[User:KyleStyle|KyleStyle]] 00:47, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' --{{User:Aphelion/sig}} 01:19, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Only put here to cause drama --<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span> [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 01:49, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - The tits aren't even the point of the image. --[[User:Drugsanimudongs|Drugsanimudongs]] 04:46, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - [[User:Ephraim|Ephraim]] 22:17, 19 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' It's used as a RPG device. Nothing more. -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:52, 20 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Nothing showing here.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:23, 21 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - I've seen more boob in Disney flicks. [[User:Marcusfilby|Marcusfilby]] 07:07, 24 July 2009 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Sideboobs need to be objectified too! --[[User:Goolina|Goolina]] <sub>[[The Kilt Store]]</sub> 19:42, 27 July 2009 (BST)
:Kept. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:29, 1 August 2009 (BST)


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The Republic of Digby

Content cleared by owner, might as well be a speedy --Bean 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)

  1. Speedy: Page was blanked by the only guy who maintained it, Author Edit Only implied --Bean 15:33, 12 June 2011 (BST)
  2. Scheduled - User has blanked the page and created a new group. Crit 7 by proxy.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:01, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Deleted as a crit 7 by proxy.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:05, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Lamportians

This page was already deleted. The only reason I haven't done this as a crit 6 is because the content doesn't match completely with the current version being more role-play than straight up recruiting(like the previous iteration). This is a term only used by a singular very small group. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)

  • Obviously Delete - And I really want to do this as a crit 6 but am erring on the side of caution. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:44, 25 May 2011 (BST)
  • delete - had potential but it's just kinda shit. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 06:02, 25 May 2011 (BST)
  • Speedy - Content is similar enough, IMHO: Expanding it doesn't mean its's not crit 6. This should be a group page, it's not a "generic term".--The General T Sys U! P! F! 09:14, 25 May 2011 (BST)
  • Delete - But I don't think it's enough for a speedy. They've expanded on it quite a bit.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 13:42, 25 May 2011 (BST)

Deleted - This be unanimous.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 22:41, 8 June 2011 (BST)

Template:Wikipedia

A template which is literally identical to using the "Wikipedia:" prefix in a link. It saves precisely 0 bytes while using a template inclusion and increasing server load.--The General T U! P! F! 14:01, 20 May 2011 (BST)

  1. Merge with Template:WP and then delete. Are all the transclusions truly due to {{unsigned}}? We should be linking to internal help about signatures, not to Wikipedia. ~Vsig.png 15:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
    Which I have just done. ~Vsig.png 15:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
    Mostly. I've used my bot to subst the template in on all non-protected pages, given that it's completely redundant.--The General T U! P! F! 15:38, 20 May 2011 (BST)
  2. Speedy C1 - a template that merely uses a single wiki code command is "No content" in my books. --Oh, and vote on Project Funny, by the way. -- Spiderzed 15:12, 20 May 2011 (BST)
  3. Speedy - as Spiderzed.--The General T U! P! F! 20:25, 20 May 2011 (BST)
  4. Keep - You don't get to technicality off such a popular template. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:19, 20 May 2011 (BST)
    Popular? ~Vsig.png 21:54, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
    The bot changed all of the edits so that's not exactly an accurate revelation of how people use it. This is more realistic. People use this template because not everyone knows about the magic word, don't punish ill-informed users for being ill-informed? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:44, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    Why not redirect the template to an explanation of magic words? The magic word is so similar to the template that anyone who uses the template should be perfectly capbable of using the magic word.--The General T U! P! F! 09:13, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    I was under the impression that the bot only subst'd {{Wikipedia}} when found in {{unsigned}} template calls. I may be wrong but still, I don't think the template is as popular as you're implying. And, yes I checked thegeneralbot's contribs. I so far haven't found any edits where {{Wikipedia}} was subst'd other than inside {{unsigned}}. ~Vsig.png 16:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
    That's because the use in unsigned made up the bulk of {{wikipedia}} uses. That said, nope, it didn't just remove the ones in unsigned, which explains why I can't find any of my old uses of it, despite the fact that I've used it frequently in the past. Aichon 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
  5. I support a merge with {{WP}}, but suggest retaining as a soft redirect, deleting only when we can get WP: implemented as an interwiki shortlink. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 05:41, 21 May 2011 (BST)
  6. Delete -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 05:43, 21 May 2011 (BST)
  7. Keep - It's not actually the same as just the plain link, since the plain link requires additional code to look the same. Quick example: {{wikipedia|example}} yields example while [[wikipedia:example]] yields wikipedia:example. Note the different outputs. I prefer the template since it saves some typing, and the code is cleaner. Aichon 09:18, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    You can use the pipe trick to get the same appearance; although there is slightly more code, there is far less of a drain on server resources. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 13:12, 21 May 2011 (BST)
    Pipes would work, sure, but that's why I mentioned less and cleaner code. Also, it doesn't produce "far less of a drain on server resources." When it comes to server load, the danger of templates is that if they are changed, every page they are included on needs to be re-cached. That's not an issue here since unsigned doesn't change. Aichon 07:04, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    It's been changed twice recently. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 07:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    "...frequently". Sorry, forgot to put that at the end of my last comment. ;) Anyway, two edits in three years (both of which had to be requested via A/PT) is nothing to be concerned with. To put things in perspective, in the same time period, your sig has changed 15x more frequently and is on more than 45x as many pages, yet none of us seem to object to it. :P Aichon 10:38, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    Actually, I object. Tongue :P I think we should get rid of templated sigs for precisely those reasons (added DB calls on every page load, plus cache invalidation of every page on which they are transcluded when they change), but while they are permitted by WIKI LAW, I'm going to keep availing myself of the convenience. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 22:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)
    Basically, yeah. This is why there was the request to delete Nosubst. This template is far less harmful though and more intuitive to the partially wiki-literate. It's a tool and you shouldn't take away tools that don't actually harm anything just for the sake of simplicity. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:02, 23 May 2011 (BST)
    Not sure how this template is more intuitive than the normal link; if they can find this template, they can find out how to use the link (which should be described in the help pages, anyway).--The General T Sys U! P! F! 17:17, 24 May 2011 (BST)
    Wikipedia:wikipedia: for one. The fact that templates are easier to understand to a layman than magic words for two. We assume that most users can pick up and learn templates fairly quickly and magic words/parsers rarely. I'm actually not a fan of the template but I don't see a reason to remove the option just so we don't have to change them manually. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:41, 25 May 2011 (BST)
    Bah. If you really objected, your actions would speak for you and you wouldn't avail yourself of it at all. :P Aichon 03:57, 23 May 2011 (BST)
    So the Nosubst deletion nomination counts for naught? Tongue :P
    I have a policy discussion in the works, but I don't know how long it will take me to get to. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:33, 23 May 2011 (BST)
    So another policy will get passed by a group of individuals that give shit all about the wiki? Lovely. ~Vsig.png 17:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
    Whether it passes or not doesn't overly concern me. Which reminds me… ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 23:59, 24 May 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep - u dont delete my contributions to the wiki without me having a say about it --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 20:37, 22 May 2011 (BST)
  9. Keep - I prefer the template--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 20:40, 22 May 2011 (BST)

5 delete votes and 4 keeps. Merged (via move) with {{WP}}. Kept {{Wikipedia}} as a soft redirect. Fixed remaining links. ~Vsig.png 05:40, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

No reason to have a soft redirect when a standard redirect preserves functionality and doesn't make it harder to reach the new template page(the entire purpose of soft redirects)--Karekmaps 2.0?! 07:05, 6 June 2011 (BST)

... this must be one of the most dumb moves since gen tried to pass an anti-goon policy with the goons active in the wiki. Creating a redirect in template:wikipedia to ]]template:wp]] just adds more server load to a template whose main reason for deletion was server load. Its just too dumb for me to understand it. The merge votes should've count as a kept in this case, ffs --hagnat 12:31, 6 June 2011 (BST)

You're right, since server load is the issue, we pretty much should have had this deleted lul -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:41, 6 June 2011 (BST)
Yeah, pretty much. I kept as a soft redirect per Rev's suggestion but Karek reverted back to a typical redirect. If people want to keep it as a redirect or just keep the template rather than delete it then that's fine with me. That was never brought up during voting but whatever. ~Vsig.png 15:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
It's a soft redirect now actually. It was just waiting on verification that all usage was gone. Also, not really server intensive in any way. Even the claims of the editing of it were edits done by the people claiming they were a problem. Anyways, now it's set to sit for a month or three until we can be reasonably sure people have gotten the message.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:19, 7 June 2011 (BST)
I think we're both misinterpreting what a soft redirect is. They are just a short messages directing someone to an external site. I don't even think a soft (or even a "hard") redirect is warranted TBQH. It should just be deleted since that is how the voting concluded. If there is sufficient reason to keep it, put in a request at A/U. Otherwise, it comes off a lot like just a disagreement with the voting results and maneuvering things to turn this into a keep. ~Vsig.png 05:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I just set it up in a way to make it clear that WP was the current version and this page is no longer in use as a template. Terminology be damned I guess. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 08:43, 8 June 2011 (BST)
That's all well and good, but it was voted for deletion??? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 04:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
Yeah no, when 2 of the 5 deletes are merges and the other 4 votes are keeps that reasoning doesn't really fly. Especially when you actually read Revenants vote. That being said it's still going to be deleted, it's just going to be left as a soft redirect for a bit first because the template still exists. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:04, 9 June 2011 (BST)
My point is that it's funny when so many people vote but in the end it becomes a situational decision by one person pushing for what they want. I voted delete because I use the [[wikipedia]] code personally, but as a whole I'm indifferent. It's worth noting though that Merge got the least votes out of all the options, even if you aren't inclined to count them as implicit deletes (which you are) -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 09:25, 9 June 2011 (BST)
Meh, the only reason it qualifies is that last Merge vote that puts it over and since the vote in question specifically qualifies itself as situational upon the soft redirect it's really just common sense. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 09:34, 9 June 2011 (BST)
I wasn't quite aware that we were intending on deleting it eventually and this was transitional? Is that actually the case? Cause if it is, it makes more sense and has made me look like a dil to boot. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 11:21, 9 June 2011 (BST)
We are and it is.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 11:27, 9 June 2011 (BST)
I remember reading that but somewhere along the line I forgot. I'm a bit of a mess -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:51, 11 June 2011 (BST)
S'ok, apparently you're not the only one who doesn't have time to read s recent comments make oh so clear. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)

What are you guys doing? Let me run through the process for handling a Delete and Merge result, since it's very simple, but has apparently been forgotten:

  1. Merge the two pages.
  2. Fix all links to point to the new page, except where they were specifically being used to refer to the old one as opposed to the new one (e.g. discussions like here)
  3. Fix all transclusions to point to the new page that it's being merged into
  4. Delete the page

That's all you guys had to do, but for some reason, you got stuck between #2 and #3. Why did no one check for and fix transclusions before replacing the template with text telling people not to use it? And why was that text put in at all, when your job was to follow the vote's results and delete the page? We don't need text telling people not to use a page that's been deleted, since people don't use pages that aren't there. That's why you delete them. Why has this not been done? Aichon 21:32, 10 June 2011 (BST)

I did fix all incoming links and transclusions (although I think I must have missed the one transclusion in this vote). As for deleting it, that's what is currently under discussion. Pages have been kept as a redirect during a deletion before. I don't know that a redirect of this nature has been used before but I'm open to using them. I just want it made clear what is happening, since at first it seemed to me like maneuvering to turn a delete decision into a keep decision. ~Vsig.png 21:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
1. Not a standard case. 2. If you can't be asked to read any of the intervening discussion that has happened don't bother to comment. You're just wasting everyone's time at this point. Third, since I know you won't bother to read through any of it because of your "right-ness"(a common problem with users of this wiki), Template:Wikipedia is a long existing template that was implemented 5 years ago. Above and beyond that it's a popular template on wikipedia projects. If you don't want to run the risk of users recreating it you do it this way, which is also the only way it actually passes as a delete vote, having changed it essentially just saved the step of creating the soft redirect or redirect(since one is justified, the template still exists). Also, it's still getting deleted, now shoo. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 17:29, 11 June 2011 (BST)
*"Can't be arsed".--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 18:32, 11 June 2011 (BST)
I'll excuse your personal (and hurtful, coming from you) attacks on me as a courtesy. First off, I'm aware of its history and would prefer it stay around (see my vote above). Second, as I'm sure you agree, failing to fix any transclusions was an oversight in need of correction, and leaving them while altering the template is never part of proper procedure, so a mistake was definitely made here. Third, I think that you're not giving Rev enough credit, since he's a smart guy, is well-versed in the rules, and says what he means. If he had wanted it to be taken the way you say, he could have said Keep with his comment, or else he could have said Merge on the condition that it be done as he described. Instead, he said Merge, which he knows acts as a Delete, and he phrased it as a suggestion, instead of as a comment on which his vote was contingent. Fourth, see Crit 6. That's how you stop people from recreating the page on this wiki. Anyway, I'm not going to stick around to argue it further, so you'll get what you wanted from me. Aichon 18:57, 11 June 2011 (BST)
Not personal, just frustrated. Sometimes even I tire of repeating myself and this would mke probably the fourth time this has been addressed. It's an unusual case and a close vote, it seems reasonable to try and do it in a way that has the least potential to cause issues(in this case phasing it out in steps). As for Crit 6, that's generally connected with vandalism cases historically. A situation that relies on it is less than ideal. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:44, 11 June 2011 (BST)

Dupilcated image

[1] Un-used duplicate of [2], 1 could be deletead?--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:03, 17 May 2011 (BST)

  1. Scheduled - but I'll check with Schwan before deleting. ~Vsig.png 16:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
  2. Speedy - Two days short of a scheduled. -- Cheese 18:50, 17 May 2011 (BST)

A. Schwan confirmed on his talk page that the image was unneeded, so I deleted it as crit 7 by proxy. ~Vsig.png 21:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Nosubst

Horrible hack that exists only to work around sensible software limitations. We should take the opportunity given by the new sig size limits to recognise this, delete this abomination, and have all users made to use proper signatures. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)

Just to be clear... this isn't going to break existing sig inclusions, is it. Just people who (attempt to) use it from now on.
I have long hated templated sigs, but then I also hate having to scroll through huge swathes of sig code if it's subst'ed into discussions -- boxy 11:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Correct.
And yeah, me too, but it's a bit “damned if you do, damned if you don't”, and templated sigs cause more problems than they solve, which is why they're prohibited by default by the MediaWiki software unless you deliberately circumvent that with a measure such as this template.ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 11:53, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Or change a one-line setting in the software....--The General T Sys U! P! F! 12:09, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Sadly I feel its too late. If it was setup from the beginning, I'd have no problem, but deleting it now is just going to break loads of links. Rev should set up UDWiki 2.0 --Rosslessness 12:16, 2 May 2011 (BST)
It was set up in the beginning, by Kevan, and then hacked around by users. And it shouldn't change any links that use it properly: the rest can be easily fixed. What it will do is necessitate users to change their sigs. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 12:27, 2 May 2011 (BST)
No it wasn't. The mediawiki software didn't originally force substitution in signatures: It was added in an update and there wasn't originally a setting to turn it off, so we developed a workaround.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 12:33, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Whats the fix? --Rosslessness 12:37, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Mostly deleting it out of MrAushvitz's fucking sig. Grr! Argh! *shaking fist* ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 12:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
Ah, thats why its used on so many of the old suggestion pages. Get on that, use your crazy robot. --Rosslessness 12:49, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  1. Kill with fire. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 11:26, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  2. Keep - Templated sigs are allowed by wiki policy; If you don't like it then change the policy rather than trying to delete the template that allows them.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 11:44, 2 May 2011 (BST)
    Mind to show me where a policy directly grants the use of templated sigs as a right? Can't find it in the sig policy, nor do I see any other applicable policy. -- Spiderzed 11:57, 2 May 2011 (BST)
    The section that says: What would be allowed - Anything that isn't? --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 12:01, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  3. Kill this is terrible, I assume, so down with it or something. --カシュー, ザ ゾンビ クィーン (ビープ ビープ) Katthewsigtag.gif @ 12:17, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  4. Keep - This template is linked to lots of stuff. Who is going to fix all of the broken links if this gets deleted?--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 12:24, 2 May 2011 (BST)
    Me, if nobody else does, and before it gets deleted. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 12:34, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  5. keep as above-- Boobs.sh.siggie.gif   bitch  12:31, 2 May 2011 (utc)
  6. Keep - just because I think General has a better option of dealing with this- it would also allow more comfortable transition period for those of us who do used the damned templated sigs. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:47, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  7. Keep --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 12:59, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:08, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  9. Kill -- Honestly ok with this. Can we get rid of the signature policy next? Maybe replace it with something that simply says your sig can't impersonate other users, break pages, and needs to show who you are and leave it at that? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 13:41, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  10. Kill Having looked at it, seems fair, as long as rev wipes out the linked list. --Rosslessness 13:52, 2 May 2011 (BST)
  11. Keep --Weed.jpgArthur DentWeed.jpg BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 14:31, 2 May 2011
  12. Keep It works fine. Has for years. Old folks coming back to the wiki will have to deal with some shit the first time they try to sign. Would be pretty off-putting I think. ~Vsig.png Amurica. Fuck. Yeah 22:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
  13. Delete -- boxy 07:42, 3 May 2011 (BST)
  14. Delete -obsolete --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 15:41, 3 May 2011 (BST)
  15. Keep - The only way I'll be okay with a delete if there is a code length limit on signatures. So steal from WP, basically. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:56, 10 May 2011 (BST)
    With the software update, signatures are now limited by the software to 255 characters. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 03:41, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    The Goon's signature (and probably others) still manage to be ridiculously big. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:33, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    They're subst'd in. If they were using {{nosubst}} and signing using e.g. {{SUBST:Nosubst|Goonsig|Revenant}}, they'd be breaking the template transclusion limit on every page they posted on in short order. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 04:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    That's not what I'm talking about; I'm talking about how long the code for their signatures are. It's very long. If templated signatures want to be deleted, it's better suited for policy discussion, provided a reasonable alternative is included (so no long signature codes, it makes me angry). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:44, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    I'm not sure you're understanding me, so I'll give you a demonstration… the invocation {{Goonsig|Revenant}} gives You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||, which is the same as what specifying {{SUBST:Nosubst|Goonsig|Revenant}} as your signature results in. In contrast, using {{SUBST:Goonsig|Revenant}} as your signature results in… You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!||||||||||||||||||||||||
    I think what AHLG is saying is that without {{nosubst}}, all code heavy signatures will add heavy amounts of code to pages when signing. The inclusion sizes don't matter to too many people as long as they don't have to wade through umpteen lines of code when they want to contribute to dicussion. My biggest issue with this deletion request is that it is being passed off as sensible software limitations. I don't believe sensible is the right word. Minimal or default software limits is more descriptive. Its like saying that the "if" templates are a crappy hack job because the software has sensible limits on parser functions. The wiki software sucks. It's vanilla. So what if there exists a hack to make it suck less? It's rare that anything is broken because of templated sigs. ~Vsig.png 05:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    It's really not as rare as it would be without Nosubst. Not to mention that with Nosubst gone it would mean that actually useful templates won't be excluded from pages like A/VB and A/M. It actually opens up possibilities for us that we currently have to code around.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:50, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    When I say rare I mean extremely rare. The only instance of page breakage in recent history was A/VB and it was due mostly to the whole of A/VB/Bots being transcluded. And then it only became a problem when we came under heavy bot attacks. That problem was easily solved by no longer transcluding A/VB/Bots, which was largely unecessary to begin with. It could also be argued that it was the size of the regular non-sig templates causing it to break. If any other possibilities will arise by deleting {{nosubst}}, I fail to see what they may be. ~Vsig.png 06:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    It actually really can't because the sig templates were actually being called multiple times in the inclusion chain. While it's easy enough to noinclude them and thus limit the amount of data being called through them superficially, that also compromises the purpose of signing needlessly. We shouldn't have to adapt how pages work because some users want to use a feature actually disabled by the software itself. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    Yes, the sigs were called multiple time but so were the non-sig templates due to the fact that the whole of A/VB/B being transcluded. In the case of the templated sigs, it was a template call ({{nosubst}}), inside a template call (the template sig which themselves sometimes called on other templates) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). Similarly, with the non-sig templates, there were template calls ({{usr}}), inside a template call ({{vndl}}) inside a template call (the transcluded A/VB/B). The points I'm trying to make are that a) we've taken steps to correct page breaking on A/VB and b) it really wasn't necessary to transclude A/VB/B in the first place. Whatever value that A/VB/B added to A/VB was superficial and it is actually a lot simpler to just include links to it from MediaWiki:recentchangestext and MediaWiki:blockipsuccesstext and be done with it. ~Vsig.png 14:40, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
    Vapor: Not at all. There is a wiki software setting to enable unsubstituted template signatures. Kevan has it set to the default, which is to disable them. When I described this as a “hack workaround”, that was the literal truth. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 07:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    That's not entirely accurate. Kevan hasn't set it to anything: When the wiki was first set up the setting wasn't available and templated signatures were allowed; a software update disallowed them and the setting to change that was only introduced later. We are forced to use this sort of hack due to the difficulty in getting Kevan to change the software.--The General T U! P! F! 09:09, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    Yeah, I'm not disputing that it is a hack, I just don't agree that it is a worthless hack. I really don't believe Kevan made a conscious decision to turn off unsubstituted signatures way back when. Just like I don't think he intentionally set the max characters for raw signatures to 255. He likely just ran the update without any customization. I think we can reasonably leave {{nosubst}} in place and any sigs that happen to break pages can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, as it has been done in the past. ~Vsig.png 15:54, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    What I am saying is that when I hit edit there is a heck of a lot of code to wade through. Here is a sample from A/BP. Removing templated signatures encourages code use, which wouldn't be so bad if some of the signatures (irrespective of the manner in which they are placed) are really code heavy. But besides any of that, what we are really talking about is the issue that templated signatures breaking similar templates and other templates on pages. A/VB is a good example, as are talk pages. A simple solution may be to not use templated signatures on just these pages if such a problem arises, and it rarely does, do as what Vapor said just above. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 16:32, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    It's been a while since I checked but I'm pretty sure that template signatures trigger a few different DB searches every time they're included on a page. All changing this does is force the search to happen once when the user signs instead of every single time someone edits the page for every single time the template appears on it. On top of that signatures larger than 255 characters have to call a template in their code so that can actually be sorta policed easily enough. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 22:04, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    So, it is to say that after I sign at the end of this comment, the code is merely substed in instead of as a template? Meaning that the code length isn't an issue for whatever is added in the corresponding preferences section. It's still an issue though to how long the code is at the end result. The issue for me hasn't to do with me wanting to keep this more complex templated signature, I'm fine changing this I just find the heavy code sigs cumbersome when I go to edit. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:40, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    I'm saying that without {{GoonSig}} the goon's sigs wouldn't be possible because it's a template call made in Preferences that's substituting the template. We can police that because the template has to exist for them to call, like your sig. I'm also saying that your sig makes the server do a lot more work then, say, mine. Something on the order of 3-5 times the work with one inclusion of your sig. More every time a user uses a template signature. Mine adds to this page's DB content and gets called as part of the Page's call then run through the wiki-markup and sent to the browser so it can act on the html, yours adds to the actual processing of the page before we see it because it has to be interpreted by the wiki markup and then search the DB for the page you're referencing in the signature which then also has to be run through the wiki markup each and every single time someone loads the page for each and every time someone signs on it with a template signature. In the best case scenario it's done once per signature per page and referenced from that, at worse it's done once for every time you sign. Hopefully that answers some of the question because I'm kinda confused about what you were trying to say.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:07, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    It should be noted, however, that to say it is "3-5 times the load" is somewhat misleading because the queries take somewhere in the range of 0.003 seconds.--The General T U! P! F! 23:36, 11 May 2011 (BST)
    I'm talking about actual stress on the server. Also should mention that that's actually not necessarily the case, especially on larger pages about these parts and larger signatures for that matter. The number of queries can have an impact in speed, and a notable one at that. Here's an example Suggestions/RejectedDecember2005 vs User talk:Karek. The first has no expanding templates due to file size, the second takes longer to load. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    I might be missing your point, Karek, but those don't seem to be good examples of pages breaking/server strain due to templated sig calls. Both have giant walls of text which cause them to be so large. When that happens, templates stop working properly. I can't find even a single attempt to call on a templated sig in your first example nor is there any extraneous template usage (just {{prejection}} it seems). In your second example, nothing seems broken despite lots of templated sigs and it didn't seem to load any longer than any other page; not for my anyway. ~Vsig.png 06:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
    It was a comparison of text size vs number of calls and their effect on speed. Largely irrelevant now that I've archived my talk but here is that archive. Should have the same visible effect. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    I am a also talking about server load, hence my comment that a database query takes very little time. Yes, more queries do have an impact on server load but it is not generally a major problem: In fact, a few large queries are a lot heavier on the server than lots of small ones. So, yeah, lots of massive template inclusions will hurt the server but so will lots of massive walls of text on a single page and most signature templates aren't that largem.--The General T U! P! F! 08:45, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    Unless we want to ask Kevan for some performance stats to settle this, can we stop waving our wiki-peens? Tongue :P ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 08:54, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    I would prefer to call it a "reasoned debate" Tongue :P.--The General T U! P! F! 14:36, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    ^This. Although we could probably move it to the talk page or {{Nosubst}} talk page or something. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:43, 13 May 2011 (BST)
    Seconded, although keep the current discussion points here so for perspective voters. ~Vsig.png 14:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
  16. Keep - after some serious pondering. I'd vote delete in a heartbeat if it had been that way all the time, but pulling it away now will cause a lot of issues for rarely active users. Adding substings to sigs occassionally, while not fun, is the lesser evil. -- Spiderzed 17:02, 11 May 2011 (BST)
  17. Keep - I'm with Vapor and Gnome on this one.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS DORISFlag.jpg LOE ZHU | Яezzens 23:42, 13 May 2011 (BST)
  18. Keep - What problem is this fixing? Transclusion limits on high-traffic pages? If so, just ban templated sigs on the pages in question. Otherwise, I'm with AHLG. I do NOT want to read "lol" followed by 14 lines of code before I can see the next comment, which is what this would cause to happen far too often. Aichon 08:49, 15 May 2011 (BST)

Kept. 12 Keep votes and 6 Delete votes. ~Vsig.png 05:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


Federal Stafford Loan Program

Oh, I guess this is how pages are deleted? It was some sort of weird spam. -Susan Bakersfield 03:22, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Got this one when clearing out the bots. It's best to report them there (although it gets done here anyway). Thanks -- boxy 07:55, 14 May 2011 (BST)

Smart Revive Policy

The Smart Revive Policy was created in error and is effectively the No Random Revive Policy. It appears that Obsdark didn't read the No Random Revive Policy, and just looked at the old title of the page. There is only a few pages that link to the Smart Revive Policy and those could be redirected to the No Random Revive Policy. I also updated the No Random Revive Policy to merge in any of the needed information from Smart Revive Policy. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 02:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)

  1. Keep - this is a filibuster vote – Nubis NWO 02:14, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Speedy crit 1 though voting speedy seems kind of pointless due to the above "vote". ~Vsig.png 03:09, 27 April 2011
  3. Delete - Technically crit 1, but seeing how Nubis is reading from the dictionary, it'll have to wait it out. -- Cheese 13:50, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  4. Delete Unneeded and inferior copy of an established tactic. -- Spiderzed 14:24, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  5. Speedy - Criteria 1.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 14:41, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  6. 'delete this is a busterfily vote -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 17:07, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  7. keep As a Redirect. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 21:25, 27 April 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep - redirect -- boxy 07:44, 3 May 2011 (BST)
  9. Keep as the boxman -- HEY! HANDS OFF MAH BOOBS!   bitch  06:31, 11 May 2011 (utc)
  10. Keep - Redirect it--Michalesonbadge.pngTCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:19, 11 May 2011 (BST)

5 to 5. Kept as a redirect. ~Vsig.png 06:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

The living

Not really much in the way of content here. I'd like to have the page deleted so that I can use the name (with a capitol L). *Clint Clintstone* Talk 10:35 21 April 2011 (EST)

  1. delete - never got off the ground etc. -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 03:46, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Keep - This is both history, a group that existed(and we don't delete disbanded groups just 'cause), and also a page stuffed full of content when context is shown. We killed crit 12 for a reason. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 03:52, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  3. Keep. Its well linked. --Rosslessness 11:04, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    My arse. it has like 8 and you made half of them years ago and only because they mentioned the dead? -- ϑanceϑanceevolution 12:07, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    Sorry, its referred to as part of the did you know section of the wiki, I don't know why Clint doesn't just use The Living --Rosslessness 12:28, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  4. Keep. As Ross. You don't have to get rid of that page to create The Living. And we could also add a disambiguation notice on top of the page to refer to the older/newer group respectively. -- Spiderzed 12:47, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    This^. Especially since they're both unique pages and the stats page links by caps(like the whole wiki). --Karekmaps 2.0?! 13:42, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  5. Keep - As Above.-- | T | BALLS! | 13:46 22 April 2011(UTC)
  6. Delete Just another of those "exists only on paper" kind of groups with no real content, the kind of which we deleted hundreds of. -- Cat Pic.png Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:59, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  7. Delete - this page doesn't stop you using the capital L space... and anyway, afaik, this one is just a reactionary page to The Dead... puppy tears, and all that, y'know Tongue :P -- boxy 15:08, 22 April 2011 (BST)
    He'll find it difficult to do as that The Living is now in use. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
  8. Keep -- Asheets 16:15, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  9. Keep SHUT THE FUCK UP!. i loled.--  bitch 16:19, 22 April 2011
  10. Delete - get out. --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:50, 22 April 2011 (BST)
  11. Keep - this is a filibuster vote – Nubis NWO 23:57, 23 April 2011 (BST)
  12. Keep - Sure, why not - Serious Post Please do not silly. You rated this wiki '1'! Great job, go hog wild!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| DealWithIt.gif 15:27, 24 April 2011 (BST)
  13. Keep - We're already deleting the living from the game, why not have a reminder they once existed here? --Laughing Man 15:44, 24 April 2011 (BST)
  14. Weak Keep - As Karek and Ross, but weaker. Linkthewindow  Talk  16:18, 24 April 2011 (BST)
  15. Keep - As Karek and Ross. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:38, 25 April 2011 (BST)
  16. Keep - As Spiderzed.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:40, 26 April 2011 (BST)

Kept with 12 Keeps and 4 Deletes. ~Vsig.png 06:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Bookmarks

I wanted to make a page under my username, but instead made this. I already remade the page under my user-name, here, so I would like for you to delete this page (somebody else may want to use Bookmarks in the future, and I don't want to waste space).--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 02:33, 1 May 2011 (BST)

EDIT: Also requesting a Speedy Delete, if that is all possible.--ShadowScope'the true enemy' 02:34, 1 May 2011 (BST)
Scheduled – Speedy, Crit 7 by proxy. All gone. Happy ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾ 03:56, 1 May 2011 (BST)

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