UDWiki:Wiki Questions/Archive

can my group be deleted and put on a new page?

can my group (soon to be a group) be deleted and put on a new page?

i misspelled discussion and juvenile on it or can they edit it?

can i delete my page myself?--tomer 10:38, 19 october 19 2008 (CTZ)

No need to delete it, just ask the sysops to move it, here -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 05:36 20 October 2008 (BST)

Oh, it looks like you moved it manually, yourself. Anyway, put the original up for speedydeletion, and it will be removed asap -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 05:38 20 October 2008 (BST)

Weird problem with Historical Events section and my new guide

I just finished writing a guide, the other day, and hit submit, and for some reason, it's part of Catogory:Historical Events. I pinned down the problem to including a simple link to the catogory. I've removed the link, but any idea why a link is making it part of the catorgory? Linkthewindow ^Talk 13:54, 10 October 2008 (BST)

Linking to Categories, Images, Etc. --Midianian^{|T|T:S|C:RCS|} 14:33, 10 October 2008 (BST)

Thanks. Linkthewindow ^Talk 03:10, 11 October 2008 (BST)

Editing my new group

I started a new group with my friends, and I was wondering if there is a guide for all the questions I have. like putting templates on to show we support sacred ground. Thanks in advance.Nequa 01:11, 4 September 2008 (BST)

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Help#Detailed_help

Swiers 04:46, 4 September 2008 (BST)

You can also try clicking on Edit on a page you like to see how they included templates and did other things you liked. --Zhani 08:11, 4 September 2008 (BST)

Wiki Suggestions

Where's the appropriate place to make a suggestion for the Wiki, rather than the game? In the normal suggestions area, or is there a specific place that's better for these? Thanks. --Zhani 23:36, 27 August 2008 (BST)

Depends what the suggestion is. Talk:Main_Page might be appropriate if it is a broad technical effect or some such, although people often use User_talk:Kevan for that as well. If its a policy suggestion, UDWiki:Administration/Policy Discussion is the place you want. And obviously, there are pages for requesting various administrative actions.

Swiers 00:29, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Thanks, I'll try Talk:Main_Page, possibly with a link from the relevant template as well. --Zhani 00:33, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Tooltips

How would I go about adding tooltips to images on the wiki? I tried finding out the HTML but I cant, or its the wrong type of HTML. ----Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}20:16, 20 August 2008 (BST)

^{Image Syntax}

Swiers 00:32, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Thanks Swiers, I thought of looking on Wikipedia, but I ended up just messing with Templates and the lark.

--Rahrah^{Come join the #party!} 09:19, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Subpages

Is there a way to see al the subpages of your User: space? I cant remember the names of some of my subpages, and this would be a big help.

--Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}19:54, 19 August 2008 (BST)

Try entering User:Yourusername in the search bar, but clicking search instead of go, that should turn up anything closely related to your userpage. Techercizer^(Food)_(TSoE) 21:50, 19 August 2008 (BST)

Try this this link, all of yours should be up the top -- boxy ^{talk • i} 02:06 20 August 2008 (BST)

Backgrounds?

I am working on my Userpage, and I was wondering if there was any way to justify something "behind" everything else, so that it effectively becomes a background to the text of part (or all) of the page.-- Techercizer^(Food)_(TSoE) 21:50, 21 July 2008 (BST)

My Answer

--Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}15:40, 17 August 2008 (BST)

Sir VI of Philosophe Knights.

_■^■ 20:30, 17 August 2008 (BST)

Where are these templates?

I can't find the number of revives, number of kills etc. templates anywhere. Do they exist? And also is there a template where I can put in information about my character e.g. name, class, etc.? --Dr Frank 05:53, 6 June 2008 (BST)

The best place to go for templates is Category:Templates and Category:User Templates. The character template you refer to is Template:Character. If you have any more questions, just leave me a message. --Zs L 05:30, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Include Overloads?

I think External Military Report Map may be breaking because it makes to many inclusion calls (with curly brackets). However, NT Status Map makes as many just as calls without breaking. So what is the problem? Swiers 21:14, 10 May 2008 (BST)

It's not number of inculusions but rather bits/bytes. It's a data size limit.--Karek^maps?! 04:40, 11 May 2008 (BST)

Possible to overlay the {DangerMap} with other info?

What was hoping to accomplish is creating an editable overlay for the DangerMap that would display the current location of my characters. This would both allow me to keep them separated to avoid tripping zerg flags and give me the entire DangerMap information as related to me at a glance.
I looked at how the DangerMap itself is constructed and I'm a little lost as to where I can start. I can see creating my own Map template and linking having each cell display the official DangerMap/suburb template... What would be really convenient is if I could have preferably one template for all characters or a template per character that would automatically update my Map with my character's new position without me having to change the actual map.
To expand, I'm hoping to have a character template where I just change a value or write the name of the new suburb my character is in and have the change take place on my map automatically.
Is this at all possible or am I dreaming? :P-- ^Z_Z 20:45, 28 April 2008 (BST)

Yeah, its possible. What you want to do is use DIV's that use relative / absolute positioning to overlay one element on top of another. In this case, you'd maybe overlay a simple bit of text on top of the danger map. The danger map may not be the ideal tool for this, however, because its not set to any defined size.

Swiers 21:21, 28 April 2008 (BST)

I should expand: I would create a new map template for myself that would be fixed size and smaller than the current Danger Map. To accomplish this I'm hoping to strip out the suburb names and placing them into tooltips instead. I'll have to play around to see if a cell can be a link or if I'll have to figure out something else.

BTW, do you know if JavaScript is usable with the Wiki? Also, a div overlay seems like a good start if I can get it right and be able to "move" suburbs by adjusting the text position by a fixed value up/down/left/right. Do you or anyone else have any additional thoughts on what can be done? Would it be possible to display two templates in a cell if one tells how the cell is colored (DangerMap information) and the other one places text in the cell? Thank you once again!-- ^Z_Z

22:18, 28 April 2008 (BST)

Javascript does NOT work on the wiki. And yes, you can easily have two templates affecting one table cell. All a template does is fill in some code / text.

Swiers 03:11, 29 April 2008 (BST)

After a good chunk of mindless work (100 suburbs to change!) I have a modified dangermap that I'm very happy with. It's done entirely in HTML and the neatest thing about it is that the name of each suburb pops up in a tooltip when you hover over a specific cell.

Now my task would be to somehow merge that map with information about my characters' location. I thought hard about it and I'm really drawing a blank. I'll try

positioning later today but I'm wondering if you or anyone else might have additional approaches I can try? Thanks!-- ^Z_Z

19:30, 29 April 2008 (BST)

Another thing - would it be possible for people to create their own CSS sheets through MediaWiki?-- ^Z_Z

23:41, 30 April 2008 (BST)

Help with Scenteral Intelligence Map/grid map

My experience using style tags is minimal, and I'm having some trouble figuring out how to gracefully handle placing one elements on top of another. My problems on the above page are twofold.
First, the grid image and names table that overlap the scent image table, while lined up properly, seem to be "displacing" elements below them by forcing them down the page. I re-positioned the later elements to move them up the page as well, but this still leaves a bunch of whitespace (1796px worth) at the end of the page. Is there any way to avoid this?
Secondly, the table that the grid image and suburbs name table overlay normally displays images which have their own tooltip tags. I want people to be able to see THOSE tooltips, not the ones for the topmost (z index wise) element. Is there any way to fix that? Swiers 17:11, 23 April 2008 (BST)

Sorry, been a little busy. I'll look into it. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 02:25, 24 April 2008 (BST)

Guide to changing sigs?

Looked everyone and in Special:Preferences as suggested by Wikipedia but can't find a place or guide on how to change my signature (add color and the like). A link on how to do this in the UD wiki would be must appreciated.--Zardoz 19:54, 21 April 2008 (BST)

You can find the information here. To change it you need to mark Raw Signatures in the User Profile section of My Preferences, Then in the box marked Nickname you add your link [[User:Zardoz|Zardoz]] and any code you wish to alter it with. To change the color you need to edit the section in red.--Karek^maps?! 21:00, 21 April 2008 (BST)

Thanks, I think that did it--ZARDOZ 19:37, 22 April 2008 (BST)

Sig problems

My sig is doing something wierd to my timestamp, and i have no clue how to fix it. I'll give a cookie to whoever can help me...--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 00:44, 12 April 2008 (BST)

I reverted my sig to the old one for the time being, to save everyone the inconvenience of dealing with it, but a quick check of my sig page's history will yield you the problematic code--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 00:52, 12 April 2008 (BST)

I think you're missing a tag. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:54, 12 April 2008 (BST)

Actually it's a , two 's and a .

^-- Fixed sig. --Zs L 01:15, 12 April 2008 (BST)

Thank you much!--Corndoghero^T-S-Z 03:55, 13 April 2008 (BST)

Headshot not permanent in monroeville

I just logged in to my monroeville account to see what's going on in monroeville, but with no intention to do anything since I had been headshot. It had displayed the whole knew to aim for the head message, so I was boned. So I scrolled through the radio chatter to find, of all things, a stand up button for only 10 AP. I clicked it, and it worked! I assure you that I was in central monroeville, and I hadn't logged in for about 2 weeks because I had been headshot.--The apprentice 23:14, 4 April 2008 (BST)

Headshots on or after the 29th of March knock a zombie out of the game. Before the 29th of March, they didn't. --Toejam 01:49, 5 April 2008 (BST)

I seriously was headshot on the 30th of March, and could stand up on the 5th of April. It could be the time difference?--The apprentice 21:52, 5 April 2008 (BST)

Mixed Messages

The location block for fire stations says you can find generators, but the generator section of the wiki says they can't be found there. Which is right?--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 09:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

and wire cutters. How do you change location blocks? The fire station one seems rubbish?--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 10:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a list of all the location type info templates here -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:45 20 January 2008 (BST)

Thanks, I'll go change.--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 10:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

As long as you're sure the equipment page is right -- boxy ^{talk • i} 10:53 20 January 2008 (BST)

Thes search odds page shows no generators found since 2005. Wire cutters are no longer findable as items. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 11:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't trust that page too far, but there are a few cases like this where some things have been forgotten about and not updated to match with the more popular pages.--Karek^maps?! 11:50, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Small Animated GIFs

Here's something to debate. As we all know the recommended cap on images is 150KB. The purpose, other than keeping people from using up all the server's storage space, is to maintain a certain degree of wikipage loading standards on the UD Wiki. Larger images take longer to load and in the meantime their absence during this period is annoying. Now I recently worked on creating an animated GIF, with images scaled to 125x100px, each no larger than 10-13KB each. The effect required a long series of random images to flip past (.25 sec each), but after creating the animated GIF I realized that I had 50 images, and when tallied up that came to around 550+KB, well exceeding the recommended maximum file size. To correct the issue I removed some of the images, but the more images I removed lessened its overall effectiveness. In truth I would need to reduce it to 13-15 images in order to meet the recommended file size limit.

That said, unlike single large images animated GIFs load each individual image in an effect that appears to work similar to streamed video (in laymen's terms obviously). As such, it takes very little time to load a 10-13 KB image, and then move onto the next one in the sequence. With that in mind, would it be unacceptable to have such a large image file if it did in fact perform its function (albeit slowly at first)? Or do you all believe that it's an annoyance nonetheless? --Mobius187 20:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't really see an issue. Its only a guideline, right? Animated gifs DO load thier initial frame quite quickly, and the guideline exists to steer people away from doing something stupid. It doesn;t cover all of good practice, or even avoid all bad practices. However, if you ARE going to use such a large image file, be sure to tag it with a text alternative (so people see something useful even if it hasn't load) and size attributes (so the browser can render the page properly if it hasn't loaded- this is STILL important with animated gifs, as its possible for later frames to be "oversize" compared to the originals, I think). Those two things will cover a LOT of problems.
Of course, it also matters where you plan to USE this image. If gets a lot of calls (as part of a high traffic page, used in a template, whatever) then its still a bad idea.

Swiers 23:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

The original intent for the image was to be used in a template, but as you mentioned that might be an unsound idea. Not that I believe the template will be all that popular, but there exists that potential, not to mention where users would opt to place the template. Again, considerable effort went into creating the animated image, so rather than lose that work I would instead prefer to reuse it in a non-template capacity. In this case as additional content on the NecroWatch wikipage (to which the image relates). Until I can find a good location for the image though I intend to hold off uploading it. On the topic of template images, when it comes to animated GIFs what is generally considered a common file size for them (as I have seen a few) or is it simply not recommended at all? --Mobius187 23:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Slightly less random question

On the suggestion talk page Ive done something screwy and the templates come out all wrong. Any help fixing it? I have no idea whats up.--Rosslessness 14:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Huh, What do you mean? You've gotta be more specific. It could be that the page needs cycling_{(I have been a little busy)} or it may just be that you somehow screwed up the template inclusion.--Karek^maps?! 01:02, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Random Question.

When I 'hover' over some squares it gives me there co-ords, but not others, even within the same location type. Is there a way to edit this?

Oh and on the suburb map of vinetown i was trying to mark a building vsb, but i cant get it ti allign in its little box properly. Hows that work. I have no idea what i'm doing.--Rosslessness 10:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you give links to where this is happening (and not happening) please? -- boxy ^{talk • i} 11:29 16 December 2007 (BST)

Effort!. OK.--Rosslessness 12:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Right i'm talking rubbish. I assumed wasteland and streets were treated in the same way. and theyre not. Wateland has coords, streets do not. The VSB question remains.--Rosslessness 12:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

That's because all wastelands have the same name... so we added the coordinates to differentiate them. And, the suburb map is not the place for marking building's barricade levels. Vinetown needs a barricade plan for that information -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:32 16 December 2007 (BST)

Here is a code generator that automatically makes a plan for you to paste onto the barricade plan page, like these -- boxy ^{talk • i} 12:39 16 December 2007 (BST)

Thanks, i meant to say that i was going to use a copy of the suburb map as the basis, not the actual map. lalala. --Rosslessness 12:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

User Page Mess

My user page, User:Rhuster, has something wrong with the formating. I'm really not too good with HTML; could someone better take a look at it? All I want are small spaces between News Updates, and instead I get this jumbled thing...--Rhuster 13:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I had a go at your user page Rhuster... main problem seemed to be the right alignment of the templates you were using. I also put a table in so that it limited the width of each separate template, regardless of how much you type into it (which is why some were narrower than others -- boxy ^{talk • i} 11:28 16 December 2007 (BST)

Gotcha. Thanks for the help! I appreciate it a lot.--Rhuster 11:33, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Template Overload Update

When we get too many templates on a page, the templates no longer include themselves... nothing new in that. But I've just noticed that it now replaces them with a link to the page, which seems to work alright for User sig templates, located in their userspace... but not for actual template namespace templates. Category talk:Suggestions is where I noticed it. Seems to be a worse solution than the old one, where it just didn't include the template, but just displayed the wiki code for the template call.
It also includes the following text 
Does anyone know if this is something we can control? -- boxy • talk • 13:26 9 November 2007 (BST)

There's practices to help avoid hitting the limit, wikipedia has more detail about those and background information about this problem. Also, in Kevan's talk archive there's a relevant conversation about the issue. A control-F search for "You may want" should bring it up. --Toejam 19:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I had a look around in Kevans talk page archives, but I did know there was a limit already, and it's necessary to stop mega-vandalism... it's just that the wiki seems to be handling it different than I remember. You used to be able to split the page up and archive stuff, and the templates would work again, but with the new system I believe it will permanently break them -- boxy • talk • 07:08 10 November 2007 (BST)

Stolen wiki accounts

I have a member of my group who's claiming his wiki login has been stolen. The thief is now using his login for trolling, pretending to be him. Is there any way of reverting wiki logins to reclaim them? Thankfull for your help. I'd apprciate if you could answer this on my talkpage. Much Love - Karth ^FoD 20:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Adding basic extensions to the wiki

Would it be possible to add atleast [ParserFunctions] extension to the wiki to help making dynamic pages without resorting into spamming the wiki with templates to recreate the functionality? --Tumu 04:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Kevan is the only one who can add extensions to the wiki - drop him a line on his talk page. --Toejam 12:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Noteworthy suburbs

could someone answer a question for me? to quote the article on noteworthy suburbs it says "Suburbs listed in boldface contain notable locations, groups, or events." do we have any current noteworthy suburbs that are only noteworthy because of a group?--'BP^Tmz 03:05, 12 September 2007 (BST)

Well, the reasoning for each of the listed suburbs is here, so I suppose some of those suburbs are only noteworthy because of their group and the group's activities in that suburb. Personally I think the noteworthy suburbs thing is a little bit silly. --Toejam 16:02, 26 September 2007 (BST)

A few actually, the majority I would think are completely because certain groups reside there. Ridleybank is for the Ridleybank Resistance Front, Barhahville and Stanbury Village are partially on there for that too, except Stanbury Village also had Stanstock. Eastonwood is on there simply because of the Eastonwood Ferals, and Shearbank is there for DARIS. All the ones listed because of groups have frequently have/had events happening in them because of that groups residence. --Karek^maps?! 22:53, 26 September 2007 (BST)

Question on deletions

Sorry to place this here. But I cannot find a clear statement regarding deletions. When someone deletes postings that are not his own on a board (such as a suburb map and the posted information) I would consider that vandalism. I can understand counter posting to correct errors and the like. But deleting seems wrong. Still there is nothing in the policy to clearly state deletions would be a bad thing. I thought I would put this here first with no names, just so anything I may not clearly understand could be cleared up.--Wke235 03:53, 9 September 2007 (BST)

Hmm...try that suburb talk page. There's a high chance your post may have been moved to the talk page. By the way, I believe this goes on that wiki questions page. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 03:59, 9 September 2007 (BST)

Moved --The Grimch ^U! 11:16, 10 September 2007 (BST)

On this wiki, any action that is done with good intentions is not viewed as vandalism. So if someone deletes another editor's postings because they think there's a good reason to, then that wouldn't be vandalism, even if they were mistaken. Having said that, deletions are often a sensitive issue, and people shouldn't be reckless in what they remove. Deleting other people's comments is strongly discouraged unless there's a good reason. The exception is your own talk page, where you can delete whatever you want. --Toejam ^{A Stats Graph} 20:03, 10 September 2007 (BST)

And an example of "good reason" would be like some user posting "RRF=ZERGERS" (which they in no way do so...), and me coming along and deleting that useless comment. Just use common sense when deciding, it gets most people by.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 20:07, 10 September 2007 (BST)

This Makes HTML Look Like Childs Play

XxPale HorsexX / XxCannon FodderxX -

These images in my signature all link to the image host, and not the wiki page(s) or the forum. How do I accompish this, add in a time stamp, and have the user text smaller?

Thanks in andvance. --XxPale HorsexX / XxCannon FodderxX 12:42, 27 August 2007 (BST)

To make images link to wiki pages you can use the {{Click}} template eg
{{Click|link=Main Page|image=Spirit_Skull.gif|height=100px|width=100px}}
Timestamps can be added directly by adding five tildes (~~~~~) to your signature, or if you go to my preferences (it's at the top-right of the screen) and in the User Profile tab you put your signature in the nickname field and save it, then the wiki will automatically add it after you signature each time you sign. (More info).
To make user text smaller, you can use some small text which appears as some small text, or some more small text which looks like some more small text. -- T 13:05, 27 August 2007 (BST)

You can just use HTML if you like. The wiki isn't like a phbBB- you can paste in straight HTML and it works fine (if it would work on a normal page). Unrelated, your images are to big for a sig. There is a 14 pixel height limit.

Swiers 14:11, 27 August 2007 (BST)

Thanks for the help, but I have 1 remaining issue (Can't seem to use external links to code right [1]) and now my images appear under my signature, as such

XxPale HorsexX / XxCannon FodderxX -

The coding looks correct, what am I missing for both issues?--XxPale HorsexX / XxCannon FodderxX 17:18, 27 August 2007 (BST)

Hmmm... I suppose click isn't actually suitable for signatures after all. It uses <div> blocks which will cause newlines. -- T 19:12, 27 August 2007 (BST)

You could use the solution in Wiki_Questions#Linking_Through_Images, but it still won't let you link to external sites. -- T 16:45, 28 August 2007 (BST)

Thats fine, I will skip the external link then, but, I still can't figure out why my images are under my signature.--XxPale HorsexX / XxCannon FodderxX 21:33, 28 August 2007 (BST)

That number next to the pages on my watchlist

You know, the one in parentheses? I was wondering, what does that signify? Also, why does my group page currently have (-982)? --D4rkness 06:55, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Actually, nevermind. I think I figured it out. It has to do with the number of characters added or subtracted from the page, right? Still, it seems something like that should be pointed out somewhere...--D4rkness 07:05, 16 August 2007 (BST)

Yep, it's the number of characters added to an article (well, strictly speaking it's the number of bytes), and a minus number means characters are taken away. Tracking Changes has more details about watchlists. -- T 07:20, 16 August 2007 (BST)

How to change the sig?

Help... i don't know how to change my sig...(I'm such a n00b)--Savant 18:01, 9 August 2007 (BST)

There should be a link called "My Preferences" right next to the link to your talk page at the top right hand corner of the screen. Click it. And you should find Nickname or something along those lines. And there you go. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 18:08, 9 August 2007 (BST)

sorry, but I don't understand a bit what you said...--Savant 18:41, 9 August 2007 (BST)

Look at the top right hand corner of the screen. There should be a little person, your user name, "My Talk", "My Preferences", "My Watchlist", "My Contributions", and Log out. Click My Preferences, scroll down until you see "Nickname", and type in whatever hell you want, then save. Unless it's a template sig, like mine...which I hope it isn't, because you'll make me explain a lot more stuff... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 04:57, 10 August 2007 (BST)

Sorry to do this to you Axe, but, I was just about to ask how to create template sigs ... so, how does one go about this? Is ther any certain rules or do not do lists to making one? --XxPale HorsexX 11:01, 11 August 2007 (BST)

Everything you'd need is right here. If you need more help, leave a message on my talk page, and I'll start helping you tomorrow. I'd do it today, but I just don't really feel up to it. Sorry.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 11:08, 11 August 2007 (BST)

LMAO! Thank you for your honesty and help. --XxPale HorsexX 11:28, 11 August 2007 (BST)

No problem. I've been pretty sick these past few days. It's so bad, that it even affects my basic thoughts. Without the Firefox spell checker, this post would look like shit. :)-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 11:49, 11 August 2007 (BST)

Thanks... and sorry for having you to "explain" me more beacuse sometimes i don't understand :) --Savant 13:00, 10 August 2007 (BST)

Radio Frequency in use

Is there a page dedicated to Radio Frequencies in use? I am starting a new group and don't want to highjack a suburbs, or groups frequency. I also don't have the time to go threw every group and see what they use write it down and figure out which are not being used. Thanks in advance --XxPale HorsexX 14:15, 24 July 2007 (BST)

Try here -- boxy ^{T Nuts block it! DA} 14:22, 24 July 2007 (BST)

Wow! I feel really dumb. Thanks for the quick response.--XxPale HorsexX 14:29, 24 July 2007 (BST)

Heh :) Look for a frequency with a red link next to it. They're more likely to be abandoned ones -- boxy ^{T Nuts block it! DA} 14:38, 24 July 2007 (BST)

Cleaning up Pages / Archiving Old Information

I was just wondering what the rule(s) is/are for cleaning up extremely old notes on a page, or perhaps archiving the information. By cleaning up, I mean deleting, which from what I have seen is considered 'vandalism' on the site. The problem is, there is old information from 2006 with no relevance for the future (speaking specifically of the Shore Hills page). I think it would be okay in a "History" section or if was archived off the main page - but it is confusing for new people (particularly me).

A link or quote would be fantastic, I want to make sure that I'm not stepping on toes - rotted or live --Ryiis 22:54, 20 June 2007 (BST)

Mostly that stuff is archived as a sub-page to the one being cleaned up. The Shore Hills main page archive would be at Shore Hills/News Archive, and the talk page archive would be at Talk:Shore Hills/Archive -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 02:02, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Oh, and be sure to leave a link to the archive on the page, otherwise someone will probably come along later and create another archive at Shore Hills/Old Updates, or something :) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 02:04, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Thanks! Time to do a little Spring cleaning :-) --Ryiis 14:48, 21 June 2007 (BST)

Signature Problem

I have a problem. My timestamp goes below my signature. And it's made of tables. --

JudeMaverick ^{Blablablabla +1,000 +1 :) Jude's Jobs}

16:28, 14 June 2007 (BST)

You have another problem in that your signature is to large (in terms of pixles height) and will throw of normal page formating, in which case the mods are gonna ask you to change it. 17:25, 14 June 2007 (BST)

his signature also has a extremly bad taste for style. yuk. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 17:35, 14 June 2007 (BST)

Can't expect much. I'm drunk. --JudeMaverick ^{Talk +1 Jobs} 06:40, 15 June 2007 (BST)

It's because it's a table. Tables leave space around them. I checked Vista's sig, and it's done with a , which doesn't have that problem. Below is what your current sig looks like with the table markup turned into a span.

Example message by Revenant. Not a real message or signature. I am not responsible for global warming, Armageddon, or the heat death of the universe. --JudeMaverick ^{Blablablabla +1,000 +1 :) Jude's Jobs} 08:56, 17 June 2007 (BST)

If not exactly how you want it to look, I think you'd able to tweak it, yeah? —Revenant ^talk 08:56, 17 June 2007 (BST)

Thanks! --JudeMaverick ^{Talk +1 Jobs} 02:43, 28 June 2007 (BST)

User name

Is there any way to change you wiki user name? if so what should I do to get it done? I just want to change it to "Che" and drop the 13. Is that at all possible?--♠ Che ♠-^{T GC X} 04:05, 11 June 2007 (BST)

What? You've turned 14 have ya ;) I don't think so, other than creating a new account -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 04:19, 11 June 2007 (BST)

Nope I'm 29 :P check my user page, the 13 is my birthday. It's just that I started the wiki account like the same day I started to play UD, and I thought that if the user name Che was already being used in the game I couldn't use it here, and didn't even checked (yeah I know it screams DUMB!). Anyway creating a new account seems like too much. Can I just drop the 13 on my sig or that would be impersonation?--♠ Che ♠-^{T GC X} 04:31, 11 June 2007 (BST)

Nope, it's fine to use just Che as your sig. Heaps of people have different display names to what their username is. Just as long as it links back to your userpage everything is fine -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 04:37, 11 June 2007 (BST)

Thanks, you are like a human "UDWiki for dummies" ;)--♠ Che ♠-^{T GC X} 04:42, 11 June 2007 (BST)

I have a similar issue. My original character, XxPale HorsexX is now a character I do not wish to have associated with my alts due to different gaming styles. I made a new account for my second character XxCannon FodderxX, but, the wiki character page is as User:XxPale HorsexX|XxCannon FodderxX, is their any way to alter the page name so their is no association with the two alts.
--XxCannon FodderxX 14:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

No, there are not. Your only options that I know of would be what you are doing with the account now or, simply make a new account with the new name, redirect the old pages to the new ones, and request the old account banned as an unused multi of your own account.--Karek^maps?! 17:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Well he's already created the account under the new name (just doesn't seem to be editing with it). The account you are editing with needs to be linked to in your sig, so people can contact you if they want. You can't go editing with one account, and linking to the other -- boxy ^{talk • i} 01:48 20 January 2008 (BST)

Thanks again guys, you are all the unsung heroes of the UD Wiki. I will start with the alt account editing tomorrow.--XxCannon FodderxX 23:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Watchlist type pages that ANYBODY can view?

Is there any way to have a "watchlist" page that isn't tied to a specific account? I'd love to, for example, set up a "watchlist" that contains all the "User:NTstatus/Suburb" pages, so people can easily see when they are being updated. For one thing, it would let me take them all off my own personal watchlist, which is waayyyy to big at this point. I was thinking maybe this could be done via a "sock puppet" account, but that would require people to log into that account, which would be annoying for users and may result in misuse of the account. --Seb_Wiers VeM 13:30, 13 May 2007 (BST)

Related Changes sounds like it fits the bill. It's on the left hand side of the screen in the toolbox section. You use it on a wiki page and what it does is it shows you all the recent changes in the pages linked to from the original page. So if you make a page that links to all of the "User:NTstatus/Suburb" pages, then using related changes on that page should show you all the changes to the "User:NTstatus/Suburb" pages, like a watchlist with all the "NTstatus/Suburb" pages on it. Here's wikipedia's article about it. --Toejam 12:28, 14 May 2007 (BST)

Interesting. And it looks like you can create links directly to that special page as well, which would be nice to place on the map page and some other places. In fact, I just checked, and using the "related changes" on the "category:NT status map" page does exactly what I needed- and then some. Thanks! --Seb_Wiers VeM 13:15, 14 May 2007 (BST)

What Happened to My Signature?

As you can see in the section immediately below, I used to have a signature that was installed using a template. It no longer functions properly, although I have made no changes to my suer preferences or to the template. The template was called "Template:Swiers" - I can't even find this page now, or any record of it. Did the page get deleted, or am I making some really silly mistake that I can correct to get it working again? If it did get deleted, how can I figure out that is indeed the case, and recover it? --Swiers 12:24, 20 April 2007 (BST) 12:23, 20 April 2007 (BST) (< yup, pretty sad looking, isn't it?)

Your signature was deleted under speedy deletion criterion 10 along with a long list of other templates. If you want it back leave a request at Undeletion and I'll get back for you. Vantar 13:08, 20 April 2007 (BST)

Criterian 10 is for "unused templates". It was hardly unused. Maybe it doesn't show up as in use because of the {{SUBST}} usage? In any case, now that I know it will still owrk, its easy enough to replace, and avoid having happen again per AH's comment below. --Swiers 23:24, 20 April 2007 (BST)

Uh...you know...the best page to make for a signature would be "User:Swiers/Signature"...That way, it won't be deleted... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 13:14, 20 April 2007 (BST)

Non-Bold and Other Alternate Formating for Headers

On the NT Building Status List page, I made each entry a level 5 header so that they would show up in the table of contents. Is there some way to make all those level 5 headers NOT in bold text? Its the sort of thing a CSS would do handily; is there any equivalent for a wiki page?

--S.Wiers^ctdp_NTmap^x:oo 23:20, 13 April 2007 (BST)

Manipulating the Table of Contents

Hey there. How do you like UD coverage? I hope the Malton Gazette to be awesome. Haven't started advertising as of now, but please take a look and tell me what you think (or if you can write!)--I'm trying here. My question is with the TOC; I thought I had a brilliant scheme for formatting my paper, and eventually used HTML to do away with those wiki headers. Now my TOC is gone. Is there a way to be able to include sections (i.e. Headlines, Competitions, Features, Classifieds, Masthead) in the/a table of contents without putting up a list or making them into wiki headers, and how? Thanks. --Thegreathal 02:31, 13 April 2007 (BST)

Well, considering the TOC is made to use wiki headers and such, I don't think so. You might be able to manually create some sort of TOC yourself, but that's about as much as I can help you. I think you pretty much have to use wiki formatting if you want an automatic TOC. --V2Blast ^{T•P!•C•SR} 15:24, 20 August 2007 (BST)

UTC-BST Bug

I don't see a bug report page. Although in my preferences my time offset from the server is set to 00:00, my timestamps keep getting posted in BST instead of UTC. Is there a reason for this?--SporeSore 12:36, 30 March 2007 (BST)

Here in the UK, the clocks switched to British Summer Time last Sunday night. Now everybody on the wiki has their timestamps in BST. --Toejam 17:41, 30 March 2007 (BST)

Testing offset -1:00 -SporeSore 17:46, 30 March 2007 (BST)

Still lists BS-Time with an offset of -1:00. --SporeSore 17:47, 30 March 2007 (BST)

MediaWiki uses the time zone preference to display certain things, like page histories and user contributions, according to your personal time zone. There are certain things which aren't affected by the preference, and signature timestamps are one of them. There is more information available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Preferences#Time_zone --Toejam 15:12, 31 March 2007 (BST)

What's wrong with revealing IP addresses?

Why is revealing someone else's IP address a big no-no? --Toejam 14:31, 29 March 2007 (BST)

Mainly because a simple WHOIS check can reveal much about the owner of an IP address, including their address and phone number. In summary, privacy. --Hubrid Nox ^{Sys WTF U! B!} 14:35, 29 March 2007 (BST)

Thanks. --Toejam 15:16, 31 March 2007 (BST)

Special Characters

Could someone please add a Wiki Help topic or external link for using Special Characters e.g. embedding parenthesis in a wiki link? While cycling Talk:Suggestions I constantly have problems with this because people use [, (, ., ', ^, $, % etc in their titles.--SporeSore 14:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

"Watching" an entire category (100 pages)

Is there some way to watche every page within a category? The NT Status Map uses 100 sub-pages to allow individual updates to each suburbs information on the map (similar to the suburb maps danger level system) and I;d like to know when they are updated, but didn't "watch" all of the relevant pages, and dread opening all 100 again. Is there some other way I can know about it whenever a page in the Category:NT status map area gets modified, or something similar? --S.Wiers ^X:00_{x-mas tree dead pool} 21:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, watching a Category only will alert you to when the text on category page is changed not when new things are added to the category. You will have to select each page you want to watch on its own in order to keep track of every change. Vantar 01:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I was aware what watching a category did (and does not) accomplish, I'm just surprised there's not some further way to more easily watch every page that is in a category. Bummer. Well, I think I caught 95% or more of them, good enough to get a nice idea of how frequently the thing is being updated anyhow. --S.Wiers ^X:00_{x-mas tree dead pool} 03:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Transferably Usable Skills

I made two pages

that I would like to merge into one.

My problem and question is that I don't know what I should call it, and so what should I call it?

Now, the topic is really which zombie skills are useful or usable as a survivor and which items and survivor skills are useful or usable as a zombie as well as which you would be advised to get to be as good as you can be. Now a short and concise but precise name is needed, of which I can't think of one.

I feel that there is a need of such an article, as most players try to get all of the skills that they can do, and this will help them to see what's best for them from the other side.

As well as this, quite a few articles go into this topic while only exploring their own part of it - a list of all that I could find is this:

Category:Skills - Two notes under ' Completing the Skill Tree' - the current most comprehensive article for this topic
Zombie Skills - Under Human Skills useful to Zombies discusses the survivor skills for zombies and also the Flak Jacket, dismissing other items (probably good for this place, but not for a comprehensive analysis)
Talk:Zombie Skills also has a section Zombie Skills, Do they cross Over? which is useful
Melee Weapons - Crowbar has a vague mention of zombie usage against barricades, and beneath this, Baseball Bat and Length of Pipe it discusses in limited detail their usage for zombies as weapons.
Useful Items - Benefits to zombies mentioned under Flak Jacket, and unclearly for Mobile Phones, zombie use of Radios and lack of it for GPS is not mentioned at all.

Now all of these should reference this article, and possibly be entirely replaced by such a link.

I think that the two articles that I made should be entirely deleted, rather than just redirecting, as the names aren't probably going to be used for searching by ordinary people, and they are flawed themselves anyway. I've also put links here from their talk pages, and also in Category talk:Skills#Cross Death Boundary Skills.

If the merge is done, then I think that the talk page stuff should be transferred, with the stuff on bold being put onto the article main. Of course, if I get a name then I'd be more than happy to do all of this myself.

Thanks for reading this and any suggestions will be really truly appreciated. Thanks --xensyria^T 15:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thats not really a question and this is not really the best place for suggesting an idea, if your looking for other's people thoughts on it you'll have better luck on the Community Portal talk page, but since it here. I think the best place for this information would be on the Zombie page, the article already mentions the Body Building skill usefulness to zombies under the Tactical Overview subsection so you might be able to add to that with information about the usability of items and other usable human skills I can't see this information becoming much more than a paragraph. Vantar 19:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Putting a Heading in a Table

I want to have something like this:

{| style = "text-align:center ; background:black ; color:red"
|[[Image:Deadair_thumb.gif]]
|== News Flash [[Talk:Dead_Air#XXXX_XXXX|XXXX_XXXX]] ==
|[[Image:Deadair_thumb.gif]]
|}

That is, I want the heading to actually be inside the table. I can not get this to work, no matter where I put my =='s. If I put them outside the table, the table breaks, if inside they display as literals. Is this possible?--SporeSore 14:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

~~: You can not add a heading to a table as far as I can tell. You could fake it making a template like this:~~

{| style = "text-align:center ; background:black ; color:red" |[[Image:Deadair_thumb.gif]]|} == News Flash [[Talk:Dead_Air#XXXX_XXXX|XXXX_XXXX]] == {| style = "text-align:center ; background:black ; color:red" |[[Image:Deadair_thumb.gif]]|} |}
~~and then make a table with the template in it Vantar 20:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)~~

~~oops I just noticed an extra | in my anwser before, I've updated my answer to be sorry about that Vantar 01:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)~~

Ok I have done some further research and what you need is this

 {| style = "text-align:center ; background:black ; color:red"
 |[[Image:Deadair_thumb.gif]]
 |
 == News Flash [[Talk:Dead_Air#XXXX_XXXX|XXXX_XXXX]] ==
 |[[Image:Deadair_thumb.gif]]
 |}

sorry about the mix up, the other way works but it is a lot more labor intensive Vantar 02:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Redirects to subpages

Can you tell me why redirects to subpages in an article don't truly work. Try entering

Knife

It'll take you to the top of Melee Weapons. Then click on

(redirected from knife)

and then on

Melee Weapons (the link used to redirect to in theory)

and it'll take you to the correct place in the page (i.e. knife)

What's the deal with that?

--xensyria^T 17:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

sorry this as taken so long to answer I have been trying to find out and I stumbled across the answer by accident while answering your most recent question the problem is between the # used for the redirect and the # used for the link to a section heading. see Help:Links for more information. Vantar 20:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Project Wonderful Breaking The Wiki AGAIN

The 'project wonderful' (aptly named for the irony-mongers) ad is breaking the wiki again, in Firefox at least. Because it won't download quickly (it takes approx. 1 minute), it makes the browser look as if it hasn't completed the page download. Can't they make their ad a little bit smaller? Or their server a little bit more efficient? --Funt Solo 09:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you running Firefox 1.5.X or Firefox 2.0.X because I have have never noticed that problem while I have been running Firefox. Kevan as already set the ads to load a fast a Project Wonderful allows (a size of 117 px x 30px with no animations) so it is unlikely that the ads will change to be smaller, as for plans for Project Wonderful to run more efficiently you would have to ask them about it. Vantar 22:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Aye, I run Firefox. It must be a server issue - and on their side as well - there's no slowdown of any of the wiki images loading. It's okay right now, so I guess this is just something that comes and goes with the ebb and flow of their traffic. --Funt Solo

17:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, you could just get Adblock or Adblock Plus... --V2Blast ^{T•P!•C•SR} 15:57, 20 August 2007 (BST)

Broken Internal Links

Hi, is there a page which shows the list of internal links in this wiki that aren't currently working? I thought that I found it before, but try as I might I haven't been able to since. --xensyria^T 13:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

There in no page that shows all the broken internal links, there is a pages that shows the broken redirects but the page you might be thinking of is Special:Wantedpages, a list of the most frequently linked to nonexistent pages. Vantar 23:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much! That was it! It was just my bad terminology that led to a bad description. Thanks.--xensyria^T 14:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Expected XP value page

I'd like to compile a page with the expected XP value of various activities, based on the amount of AP you put into them. As an easy example, every AP you spend to attack a zombie as a newborn firefighter gives you on average 3/4ths of an experience point - however, when dealing with items like first aid kits and pistols, things become somewhat more difficult to calculate as you need to spend time foraging for supplies. In any case, the problem shouldn't be completely intractable. Should I just go ahead and start the page, or is there one like it already that I've missed? And if there isn't, is there some other reason not to have one? It seems sort of strange that no one else has started something like this. Enziet 03:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I know that work has been done to calculate search odds and weapon effectiveness that can be found

Guides:Ranged vs. Melee Weapon Efficiency and Search Odds these pages will cover most of the the details of how many AP will be spent to the get each each FAK and the such. Vantar 04:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Wow, the Ranged vs. Melee efficiency guide is amazingly useful. It really needs to be linked to from more than three pages (four now that you've mentioned it). Enziet 22:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I added a few more category tags to the page, so now its a bit more visible. --S.Wiers ^X:00 22:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion Archives Category

I was looking through Special:Uncategorizedpages and noticed that there are 476 pages of old suggestions without a category. Would creating a "Suggestion Archive" category and then adding it to the old suggestions pages be acceptable or is there a reason why they are unsorted? Vantar 21:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I've looked a little deeper in to this problem and found that there is a very unused Suggestions category, so unless someone can give me a reason not to, I plan on adding a few subcategories such as undecided and rejected to Category:Suggestions and then apply this category throughout the Suggestions/* monstrosity. Vantar 10:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Good idea- it looks like you've already worked on that, no? Take a look at Talk:Suggestions#Make_Suggestions_Their_Own_Pages - you can vote on the issue, and check out links to related ideas / discussion / categories. Notably, category: suggestion would be for suggestions currently undergoing discussion / voting. I'd love for somebody to set up a new system so we don't keep dumping stuff down the same hard-to-manage path, and would be happy to help as much as I can. I'd already considered doing some work on it, but my attempts seem to elicit negative reactions. --S.Wiers ^X:00 22:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Problems renaming (moving) a page

Can someone help me rename my page for the Danversbank Relief and Reconstruction Project? I neglected to capitalize when I made the page and would like to correct my foolish error. Apparently there is supposed to be a "move page" tab somewhere on screen after I log in but it is nowhere to be found. I have been pulling my hair out for a week trying to figure it out but have had zero luck. Thanks. --Paddy Dignam 00:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. I found the "Move Requests" page. --Paddy Dignam 05:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

How to talk with others ?

I received a talk message from other, can anyone tell me how to reply ? --Smore 05:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)]

Follow the link on the user signature, and then leave a message in his discussion page. It will probably look like this:

[[User:ExampleUser|ExampleUser]] - the user page, linked on his signature
[[User_talk:ExampleUser|ExampleUser]] - the user talk page

--People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 05:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Post moved?

I posted news in the Shearbank article, signed/timestamped it, left the computer, came back after a few hours, checked the Shearbank article for any news, and found that my post had been moved. Not just moved to the top of that day's news, moved into an entirely new day. I made the post at 4-5PM (I don't exactly remember) U.S. West Coast Time 10/20/06, and it was moved into a new category, 10/21/06. What happened?--J Muller 07:02, 21 October 2006 (BST)

The Wiki runs on BST (British Summer Time), so there is bound to be some confusion with time zones and such. You'll notice that there's a time stamp included with your signature; most people go by that instead of whatever your local time is. -- Alan Watson ^T·RPM 23:58, 21 October 2006 (BST)

Backstory

How much are we allowed to fiddle with peripheral backstory? I'd noticed that most suburbs don't have backstories, and I asked around if I could tweak them, got a yes from someone who doesn't even like me, and played a bit. Just want to make sure that's alright. I mean, I'm not making any references to any groups or individuals that are in-game, I'm maintaining a within-reason and reality-based style, and including a speck of humor here or there. Is this alright? I certainly don't plan to do many more, that's for the next user who has the same inspiration. If I've gone too far or anything, please contact me on my talk page. --Luigi Galleani ^{MAC | BB} 18:19, 23 August 2006 (BST)

Suggestions

My suggestion Zombie Contact Tweak passed the vote with 75% Keeps back in April, however it still hasn't been moved to peer reviewed. Can I do this myself or is it only Mods who are allowed?-- Krazy Monkey 12:33, 30 May 2006 (BST)

You can move it, but move the rest of the day's suggestions too so that it's easier for other people to see how which suggestions still need to be processed.--Toejam 15:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Can we have Resensitized moved up above Proboards in the forums section please? It'd probably help some of the old Desense community get back together a bit faster. -- Xyu 16:42, 31 May 2006 (BST)

group box

I cant fill in the blanks on my group box.--Pharo212 17:32, 12 August 2006 (BST)

I made some clarifications to the instructions on {{Groupbox}}. Feel free to ask again if you have further problems. --Brizth ^{M T} 17:56, 12 August 2006 (BST)

How do you get a saved image on your group box?--Robert de Bruce 15:32, 1 June 2008 (BST)Robert de Bruce

Journals

How do I create a survivor diary and then insert it into the wiki?--Mike Skinner 11:11, 26 February 2006 (GMT)

Just create it as a section on your user page or at Journal:Mike Skinner and put it there (link to it on you user page if putting it on the second one). --V2Blast 22:30, 25 May 2006 (BST)

Is it bad that I make up parts of the storyline behind the infestation of zombies? --Carfan7 03:41, 29 Oct 2005 (BST)

Well, you can do it all you like on your own pages, but everyone else will probably just ignore it. Feel free if you want to, though.--SA-TA-EK-Rumisiel 03:59, 29 Oct 2005 (BST)

I was wondering does a survivor journal have to be a diary entry written in the first person eg "dear diary today i woke up drank a beer and killed a zombie" or can it be a story about an event or something else.-- Emoch Noh 2 17:37, 26 april 2006 (GMT)

Journals are pretty much just an all encompassing term for Urban Dead fanfics, so feel free to write it in whatever style you want. – Nubis ^NWO 17:46, 26 April 2006 (BST)

My journal is getting a bit big, and I'm thinking about archiving it and denoting the archive with a user-made template. But I'm not exactly sure how I should do this: Would just creating a new page be okay to do, and link to that from my Journal in a particular area? Or should I try something else? --MorthBabid 23:52, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Archiving it like you would a user talk page is probably your best bet. In this case Journal:MorthBabid/Archive would probably be the page to make. – Nubis ^NWO 23:55, 3 May 2006 (BST)

Profiles

How do I see my profile? There does not appear to be a button on the main game page and I do not know my ID number - Raidio

Click on your name under the map, while logged in. --Brizth ^W! 22:57, 14 Feb 2006 (GMT)

How do i create a backstory and description for my character?-Harrison101

Go to your own profile and click "Edit Profile." It should be in the bottom left hand corner. Preacher Tom

Groups

How do you post a player group? --Preacher Tom 8:26am, 27 Oct, 2005 (PST)

It's explained here: Help:Contents#To_create_a_new_page: --Daranz-Talk 22:08, 27 Oct 2005 (BST)

Yea, ok it's in the groups section under Pk but it's still in the wrong place. Could someone move it? --Preacher Tom 23:13, 27 Oct 2005 (BST)

Feel free to move it yourself - it simply a case of changing the Category link within the page. -- Odd Starter 05:18, 29 Oct 2005 (BST)

How do you create a group? --Deathnut 02:00, 13 Dec 2005 (GMT)

Look at the top of the page, Deathnut. Preacher Tom 20:54, 13 Dec 2005 (GMT)

I've checked that "Create a page" thing, but it's blank! I looked throught it's edit file and saw only links to adds. Can you simply tell me how to make a group page? --Dark Prophet 05:50, 09 Feb 2006 (CST)

Fixed. Page is back. --Brizth 11:58, 9 Feb 2006 (GMT)

How do you get your group under a group category? --Gen. Reptileus 13:30, 24 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Place

 [[Category:Groups]]

and either

 [[Category:Human Groups]] or [[Category:Zombie Groups]]

anywhere on your page. They won't appear as normal links, but will place the page on correct category. See other groups pages for examples. Do not edit the category pages themselves. --Brizth ^W! 18:36, 24 February 2006 (GMT)

Here how do i set up my own group/gang havin some trouble with it and would like some help step by step please!!Penguin of light

Group's Images

I'm creating a new group and i was wondering how do you change the image in the group box? Also, how do you get your group in the "Groups" area? (not stats page). --RWXSM 18:25, 19 March 2006 (GMT)

Groups usually upload images to the wiki. The image can be usually be changed by referencing the uploaded file (like [[Image:Example.jpg]]). --Lint 08:31, 23 March 2006 (GMT)

And to learn how to get in the Groups category, read Brizth's post above. --V2Blast 22:19, 25 May 2006 (BST)

This isn't really helpful. Give us some more advice? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Solid Core (talk • contribs) 21:01, January 28, 2008.

The instructions for the groupbox are here. To put an image in there, upload an image to the wiki (or find one already here) and copy the pagename. It will be in the format Image:Picture.jpg. Paste that pagename into the group_image section of the groupbox template on your page -- boxy ^{talk • i} 02:11 29 January 2008 (BST)

Group page in general

I'm editing my group page, and was wondering how do i get it to register in the directory of survivor groups, as well as how to place an image on there, and how to place an in-site table of contents thing (the box of inward links on the top left). --Shriveled ostrich

The table of contents usually automatically appears after you use several headers (==Like this==, ===And this===). If you don't have enough headers to make it automatically appear, you can force it to appear by placing __TOC__ somewhere on your page. --Lint 08:31, 23 March 2006 (GMT)

I have done everything u said there, but it still wont put my group onto the group page. why??—The preceding unsigned comment was added by PvtStanwell (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

You need to put [[Category:Human Groups]] or [[Category:Zombie Groups]] on the page somewhere, then it is automatically placed into the relevant categories. Is that what you mean? -- boxy ^{talk • i} 05:02 1 May 2008 (BST)

I'm having trouble making the group box template work on my group page. Can anyone explain how to make it work so it doesn't look funny? --BastardBoyScout

I am also having this trouble. Instead of showing the information I'm typing in, the information being spat out is akin to this - "{{{group_membership}}}". Any information on how I can fix this would be appreciated. I did a quick look-round and couldn't find anything to answer this. Thanks! --Timkai 03:24, 20 July 2006 (BST)

Here how do u set up ur own group/gang havin trouble with it would like some help step by step please!!!

I couldn't put it better than what Marie has already, over at Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_Do_I_create_a_group . --Toejam 15:27, 31 March 2007 (BST)

Miscellaneous

I was wondering, can some one tell me how to change the status symbol at the top of the page for a mall? (I.E Giddings Mall's page says it has been ransacked, yet there are 300 survivors inside)KingdomsSword 19:00, 07 July 2008 (PST)

To update Gidding Mall's status, go to the page Giddings Mall, and near the top right of the page there should be a link labeled '(update)'. If you click it, it will take you to User:DangerReport/Giddings_Mall (Who's not actually a real user.) There's instructions there about the different possible statuses like safe, under attack etc. Decide which status best describes the current situation in Giddings Mall, then click 'edit' at the top of the page. There'll be a section that looks something like this:

  |status=ransacked
  |comment=There were 50 zombies in one corner of the mall, which was ruined.
  |user=DaveBF 21:08, 7 July 2008 (BST)

The text on the right of the equals sign might be different, that's perfectly fine.

Now, where it says 'ransacked' replace it with the new status that you've picked, and in the comment section replace the old comment with a new comment briefly describing the state of the mall. Then add your signature over the old one. Finally, click save, and it's done! Hope this helps. --Toejam 06:25, 8 July 2008 (BST)

Thank a lot, I would change it, but it seems that someone already did it for me. Thanks for the help. KingdomsSword 21:38, 08 July 2008 (PST)

you blocked my Ip because a retard at school flamed your wiki will you un block it

You should talk to the people on the vandal banning page here. --Toejam 16:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you know how I can make a JPG picture? Thanks in advance. --Carfan7 04:32, 26 Oct 2005 (BST)

Never mind, I found a way to do it. I found a program that does it for me it's called: ReaConverter 4.0 PRO --Carfan7 07:04, 27 Oct 2005 (BST)

Does browsing the wiki count against your daily permitted hits? --MoonLayHidden 04:02, 10 Nov 2005 (GMT)

No, it doesn't. AFAIK, only the main script (map.cgi) is subject to the hit limit, therefore checking your profile, your contacts, news, FAQ and wiki shouldn't affect it. --Seagull Flock 10:56, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)

A little help request: I think that the edit tags for editing sections of the Wiki are broken. Whenever I click on one, it takes me to the edit window for the above section. Is anyone else getting this? --Lord Kelvin 04:31, 29 Nov 2005 (GMT)

Probably one of the links above the "edit" tag you are clicking has been screwed up. It happened often in the suggestions page with someone clumsily editing a template. Can you provide an example? --Seagull Flock 14:15, 6 Dec 2005 (GMT)

How can I get in touch with someone who can answer my questions regarding PayPal donations and exemptions from the 160 hit per ISP law? ----GrayGhost 02:50, 10 Jan 2006 (GMT)

(NOTE: This is the inappropriate section for this question. If this answer is helpful, perhaps move this whole bit to the FAQ.)

The donation policy is clearly stated at www.urbandead.com/donate.html.

-You can Only donate through PayPal, or via purchasing Kevan something from his Amazon Wishlist.

-Every $5 one donates through either method allows the donor to exempt 1 character from the 160 hit limit. The character is declared as part of the donation form.

-If too many characters are declared, the highest on the list are always processed first, ignoring any others.

-Exemptions do not expire.

-Exemptions can never be moved between characters.

(The following points of the policy are unclear and should be changed if they are inaccurate)

-The donation amount is measured in US Dollars(USD).

-Donations are always rounded down to the nearest 5 dollars for character-exemption purposes.

-No actions taken with an exempted character count against an IPs 160 hit limit. (This should be verified by someone with an exempted character.)

It is recommended that you do not try to contact Kevan directly, he recieves a great deal of email. If you had a large donation or an especially important issue that none of the other players can answer, you may find a way to contact him on his website kevan.org.

--Mrzooeysir 20:55, 6 Feb 2006 (GMT)

How do I make a new / my own tag like this one from McZeds? Or is it only allowed for certain groups? --Huang Xin 01:42, 22 March 2006 (GMT)~

	McZeds™
	This User or Group eats at McZeds™. They also support the Use of Corpses for High Quality Processed Fast Food.

It requires a little familiarity with wiki code. Have you made tables in HTML before? Wiki tables are very similar. Here's the Mediawiki page on how to use tables. And here's the Mediawiki page on how to use templates, which allow you to shorten the code {{I'mATemplate}} to be placed on multiple pages. --Lint 02:42, 22 March 2006 (GMT)

Update: Tables are now covered in Help:Tables. Templates are now covered in Help:Templates. --Lint 01:42, 27 April 2006 (BST)

Here's a rough table to experiment with:

	The Mongolian Horde
	This user is a member of the The Mongolian Horde.

Thanks! --Huang Xin 03:57, 22 March 2006 (GMT)

how do you shorten your banner to one word Robbie the king 11:35, 11 April 2006 (BST)

I am very new to wikis, and no little about computers in general. I have a difficult time contributing here because the protocol and syntax are so specific. I have made a great effort to read everything in the wiki help and adhere to the formats. I just got a "I love the smell of banned spam in the morning" mouse over on my reply to suggestion in the suggestions talk page; I imagine I may be missing a critical hyphen or colon somewhere... Is there a help page which I may have missed that explains in great detail all the proper formats and stuff for the various pages for dumbies like me?--Raystanwick 22:17, 30 May 2006 (BST)

What I found useful was looking at wikipedia's help pages, they have the same syntax as here. Here's a cheat sheet, and both Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page and Wikitext_examples have a lot of information. --Toejam 03:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

How do i make a time stamp and have my name show up as a link?(this may sound stupid but i really dont know.) my page is at http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Soadsod

Simply finish your posts with four tildes (~~~~) They should be just above the right-hand shift key. Jonny12 ^{Talk | W! | Hunt!} 16:57, 3 September 2006 (BST)

I was wondering if it was possible to maybe make some sort of item trade system, so if like one person finds a whole lot of syringes but cant use em, s/he can give em to someone who can. or any other items. ShaunL

See here.SporeSore 17:24, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

How do I browse though all the uploaded images?SporeSore 17:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Try Special:Imagelist. The Gallery of new files may help too. --Toejam 16:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

how can i make my groupes page linked to the page in the recrutment section

On Recruitment, there are instructions on how to add an advert for your own group at the top of the page. In summary: write a little bit about your group, then find the section on the page which is appropriate for your group (Human group/zombie group/Pker group etc), and finally, add the description of your group to that section, which is in alphabetical order. It's probably clearest if you take a look at how the other groups have done it and use them as an example. --Toejam 18:17, 26 March 2007 (BST)

Navigation bar

I coded a Nav bar for my page (here), how do I put it on my pages without copying and pasting the entire code? --Blue Command Vic ^DvB 00:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

{{User:Blue Command Vic/Navigation}}. Copy that.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 00:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow, you guys work fast. Thanks. Blue Command Vic ^DvB 00:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Linking Through Images

How do I display an image and have it link back to my user page?--_Vic D'Amato__Dead vs Blue_ 06:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Say the image is called BigZombie.png. Firstly, (the order is important), go to http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Image:BigZombie.png and write #Redirect [[User:Blue_Command_Vic]], and save it. Next, click on the upload it link and try to upload the file. You should get a warning message saying that a file with this name exists already. Ignore it, and save the file anyway. Now if you follow the link to Image:BigZombie.png, it should redirect to your user page, and if you ever put the image onto a page (use [[Image:BigZombie.png]]) it too should link back to your user page. --Toejam 05:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

EDIT - I found an easier way: use Template:Click.

Template Management

I have 5 templates on my user page. 2 of them are centered on the page, and I'd like to have them all line up on the left hand side. Is there a way to override the template setting without messing with the template itself?--John Blast 14:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Try putting them in a table:

{| align=left to open

|{{Template}} for each line e.g. |{{Template:Welcomenewbie}}

|} to finish.

Hope this helps, Jonny12 ^Talk 23:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Jonny, this did help it's better then what it was. Now they line up starting from the left straight across. Now I'd like to line up left, but stack on top of each other rather then read across. Maybe I need to add them as rows?--John Blast 17:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry about that. I think you use |- for a new row. So it would look like this:

{| align="left"
| {{Template}}
|-
| {{Template}}
|-
| {{Template}}
etc...
|}

Does this work? Jonny12 ^Talk 12:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that did help. It's not a 100% where I want it but it's definitely a 100% better. Thanks for the help. Very much appreciated, Happy New Year!--John Blast 15:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Is there a magic word for this?

I am just getting into creating wiki pages but I've noticed that when ever I go to a subpage of one of my pages, say for example User:Logan_Ash/Activity it will show a small link at the top of the page saying this: < User:Logan Ash. How can I get rid of this link, as it bumps my pages down a notch, which in my opinion messes up my layout.

Sorry, but AFAIK it can't be done, as this is an automatic feature of the MediaWiki software. I'm open to being corrected, however. —Revenant ^talk 17:26, 11 June 2007 (BST)

I know it is down on group pages, like Metal Fox and Philosophe Knights, but I am begining to think it is a built in feature of the User Pages. ~ Logan Ash ~

18:36, 11 June 2007 (BST)

User scripts?

Most of my wiki experience comes from Wikipedia. Over there I have access to some very useful scripts which help with tasks such as reverting vandalism. These scripts should be able to operate on any MediaWiki installation. However, when I tried importing one via the normal method (change skin to MonoBook, add relevant code to monobook.js), it doesn't appear to be loading.

So I checked the FAQ for the one I use the most, which had this as its key point:

Enable user javascript and user css on the wiki (see Wikipedia:Meta:Help:User_style#General)

I'm guessing this is disabled, since that appears to be the default setting. Is it possible for it to be enabled? I was going to post on Kevan's talk page, but it said to post here about wiki-related questions. So... over to you! —Revenant ^talk 17:25, 11 June 2007 (BST)

Yep, I think this probably is disabled. I messed around with it, trying more or less the same code here and on the wikimedia wiki and the result was that nothing happened here and something happened there, so it's likely just not turned on. --T oejam 02:06, 14 June 2007 (BST)

I was wondering what you were trying to do with those two pages. How do these scripts make reverting vandalism easier? -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 02:55, 14 June 2007 (BST)

The tool I use most is called Navigation popups, and as the description says, it "offers easy access to article previews and several Wikipedia functions in popup windows which appear when you hover the mouse over links." So, for example, I can mouseover a diff link in a page history, see that somebody added a reference to an implausible feature of their anatomy, and revert it from there. Much less clicking, much less page loading, automatic edit summaries... very useful. And it's especially easy to get used to being able to see where a link is leading you – sometimes I don't even have to view the target page, because I can get the gist form the popup. See the link for more details on how this one works. —Revenant ^talk 14:06, 14 June 2007 (BST)

Removing old suggestions on developing suggestions page

I was wondering if it was ok to remove real old suggestions that just take up room on the suggestions page if they haven't been removed yet or to put them into an archieve. If we need to archieve them plese give a link to the archeive page. --El Rose 18:40 23 August 2007

Yeah it's fine, if there's no new comments for more than 5 days or so, then delete 'em (or write a message by the top of the suggestion saying that it'll be deleted soon, and then delete it in a few days). There's no archiving anymore (there used to be, but it was a lot of work for little value, so we stopped archiving and started deleting. Much easier.) -- T 11:10, 24 August 2007 (BST)

How Do I Put a Link In the Edit Summary?

How do I make a link in the edit summary to, for example, to the voting section of a suggestion, which looks like this:

(→Voting Section) Clicking on the arrow is a link to the voting section of the suggestion.

Or, even a link to my question this page's history?

I have tried looking for an answer, but I haven't found one. Thanks in advance. --Themanwhocares4 23:03, 17 September 2007 (BST)

/* [[Wiki_Questions#How_Do_I_Put_a_Link_In_the_Edit_Summary.3F|linky]] */ --Max Grivas ^{JG / M.F.T.} 23:11, 17 September 2007 (BST)

OK, I'll try putting "linky" in the summary box.

Aha, good to see it worked for you. Note the C style comment markers /* */ give the little arrow you spoke of. Which in terms of recent changes normally reflects an auto generated comment. (But your allowed to fake it cause it looks cool.) --Max Grivas ^{JG / M.F.T.} 01:36, 18 September 2007 (BST)

Now I'm having having getting this perfect, just making the arrow a link to the voting section, and just having Voting Section in grey letters, like most posters. Can you give me an example for the summary of this page, for example. To get to the voting section via the arrow.

[[2]]

--Themanwhocares4 23:00, 25 September 2007 (BST)

/* [[Suggestion:20070925_Highlight_XP_When_Enough_For_Level-Up_v2.0#Voting_Section|Voting Section]] */

This example has the visual of only seeing the phrase "Voting Section" while linking directly to that section. --Max Grivas ^{JG / M.F.T.} 23:13, 25 September 2007 (BST)

It's best to have the link outside of the edit /* */ because links in it screw up the arrow(even if the header is a link). If you put it after it has a link to what you want, if you want to link the section you just edited it already does that(clicking the arrow). Very annoying, best to not put links as headers until media wiki decides to fix that, if ever. It's not really an issue if the link is to the header that you were editing, like what you did on the suggestions page.--Karek^maps?! 23:57, 25 September 2007 (BST)

"This page is 115 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb."

Anyone actually got a browser like that? --Toejam^{Stats Graph Updated} 19:28, 25 September 2007 (BST)

No. --Max Grivas ^{JG / M.F.T.} 21:36, 25 September 2007 (BST)

Good link, thanks. --Toejam^{Stats Graph Updated} 21:48, 25 September 2007 (BST)

Link to Image-pages

I just want a textlink which leads to the actual Image:blahblah.xxx-page WITHOUT embedding the image. Is that possible?-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]^☼ T 09:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, [[:Image:Notfunny.gif]] gives you Image:Notfunny.gif, notice the colon. It also works when linking to category pages -- boxy • talk • 10:28 4 November 2007 (BST)

And can I also do this? Okay obviously, thanks a lot.-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]^☼ T 10:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

NOTOC and Page Creators

What does __NOTOC__ do? And is there a way via template(?) (Those Curly Brackets) to get the first bperson to edit a page, Or the creator. --Dr Cory Bjornson 05:33, 1 July 2008 (BST)

NOTOC removes the table of contents (TOC) from a page. If it was placed on this page, the TOC wouldn't show up. I don't know of a way to display the page creator on the actual page -- boxy ^{talk • i} 13:02 1 July 2008 (BST)

Look here for further info -- boxy ^{talk • i} 13:05 1 July 2008 (BST)

Signature

Why does my signature now do this? _■^■ 22:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I blame the extra carriage returns. Works fine now. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 02:47, 14 July 2008 (BST)

Advanced Template usage help needed

End goal: An addition to Template:Suburb that displays the current status of the listed MalTel mast in a nice text format. So far: I have created Template:MalTelMastStatusText and several subpages following the model of Template:MalTelSuburbStatus_active and so on. I was unable to get a single-page conditional working correctly, because it wouldn't nicely parse 5 {{{{{ in a row. I'm guessing this version of MediaWiki doesn't support it, while the one at Wikipedia does? {{ {{{mast_status}}} |active=Active}} etc wouldn't work for me, just resulting in Template:Active. I couldn't use the parser functions described on Wikipedia either, like #ifeq. Anyway, what I have so far works nicely if I know the name of the tower whose status I need, for example here's Smith_Towers: Template:MalTelMastStatusText nofuel . Let me know if I totally went about this the wrong way, or if I could have got conditionals working without a dozen subpages.

The problem: I want to incorporate this into the Template:Suburb template as said.

How do I determine the building name, from the Suburb name, which I know ( {{{Suburb}}} )? Well, my first thought is to work from the list on Template:NewMalTelAlpha. I could create a new page that associates a suburb parameter with a particular tower name. I can do a search & replace to format the list as needed, so no real worry about labor intensiveness. The problem is syntax or if this is even possible. The end result I'm anticipating is something along the lines of {{MalTelStatus|suburb={{{Suburb}}} }} then T:MalTelStatus gets the tower name for {{{Suburb}}} and returns MalTelStatusText for that tower's current condition.

I'm just not sure how to go about doing that.

Help much appreciated. --Zhani 06:55, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Parser Functions

I'm wondering if it may be worthwhile advocating to have the Parser Functions installed to allow for easier conditionals in pages? This would be useful for pages that update content or style based on information from elsewhere in the wiki. I also notice this is MediaWiki version 1.9.3 while the latest is 1.13.0 --Zhani 22:06, 28 August 2008 (BST)

Been asked for. Might be worth another try. If only Kevan had somewhere/thing else/more powerful to host on. Then again, I have no idea what he hosts on.. _■^■ 01:48, 29 August 2008 (BST)

UDWiki:Open_Discussion/ParserFunctions_extension.--Karek^maps?! 03:38, 29 August 2008 (BST)

Thanks! ----Zhani 03:50, 29 August 2008 (BST)

DangerReport pages for MalTel masts and BuildingStatus template: would this break anything?

Looking at the DangerReport page for a MalTel mast shows the standard BuildingStatus template, NOT the BuildingStatusMalTel template which shows the generator status along with the building status. Would it break anything to change all of the DangerReport/MastBuildingName pages to use BuildingStatusMalTel instead of BuildingStatus? Is this something we could get a bot to do? --Zhani 19:39, 29 August 2008 (BST)

Advertising an event?

If I wanted to advertise an event I am planning, do I just use the page I created or is any other place I could advertise it? Sorry if the question is confusing. --Mindlessidiots 22:59, 24 August 2010 (BST)

If it's an advertisement for an event you seek, you can post it here. Also, I'm very happy to advertise anything in my signature. Kinda worth your while too, since my signature is on the most pages in this wiki... >< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 23:24, 24 August 2010 (BST)

Thank you, where do I apply for permission to post the advertisement on community projects page? --Mindlessidiots 18:46, 29 August 2010 (BST)

In community projects, you make human inertia work for you by just editing the page yourself. With Axe Hack'ssig, you just place a request on the page he linked and wait for him to include the ad himself. -- Spiderzed ▋ 18:58, 29 August 2010 (BST)

Templates and server load?

Could anyone explain to me the relation between template use and server load? Is just the fact that they require the movement/copying of data from one page to another? I've seen a template (ironically) disparaging the use of templated signatures as they increase server load; is this actually a significant problem? --aClashInRedSnow^|talk 21:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm by no means an expert, but I've read that the server load increase is insignificant, if any. The main objection is that they are prime targets for vandalism (once the whole Developing Suggestions was posted in someone's sig,) and the server load one. Linkthewindow Talk 22:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Template parameters

Does anyone know if there's a way to change the output of template parameters so that if "location_type=police dept" is entered it can display "police department" in the category section of Template:Locationblock? It's also needed for Necrotech buildings, libraries, cemeteries. If I can't figure out a way to do this, I'll probably have to rollback to the old system -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 11:42 30 December 2008 (BST)

If you create a template in the format Template:Info_X, and then input the last word into the "location_type" parameter when using the template, then it will work, as shown here. (To make it so that a category is given to the page, use <includeonly> tags and put in Category:Police Departments, for example.) --Rahrah^{Come join the #party!}21:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but I added the category to Template:Info Police Dept (and other corresponding Info templates), which worked fine -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 08:00 5 November 2009 (BST)

signatures

how do you change your signature?--Sgt Gonnella 01:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

See this. Linkthewindow Talk 05:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Time Travel?

Ok, something is seriously up with the timekeeping all of a sudden for me. I was happily reviewing my bot and checking the odd edit to make sure it hadn't broken anything. My refresh of RC yielded no new results though. Fearing it had crashed I checked my program, it was still trodding along happily. I pasted a page to check the edit history. It had updated just fine and at the current time.

Looking closer at RC, it's fucking jumped a hour off and fucked the edit history over.

My bot was working in alphabetical order, and the mass of edits certainly helps me a bit here...

This question started at 23:45 UTC and posted at 23:58 UTC.

Recent Changes, top of list, show bots on.

(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Louis's Hospital (Edgecombe)‎; 00:24 . . (+39) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.)
...
A ton more bot edits here, you get the idea.
...
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Ferreol's Hospital (Dartside)‎; 00:20 . . (+81) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.)
(diff) (hist) . . N User:A Helpful Little Gnome/A8‎; 00:20 . . (+956) . . A Helpful Little Gnome (Talk | contribs) (New page: {{UDGame| top=Somewhere| NW_location={{UDBox|B7|a field}} | NW_color=Field66|)

All these times, and notice the usual edits too, have suddenly jumped an hour into the future!

The bots edits were being made at the correct UTC time though, and had gotten stuck deeper into the stack, inamongst edits that had been made an hour previous (the edits from an hour before have now jumped an hour ahead, remember)

See how the alphabetical order has continued! Louis Hospital to Luke Cathedral. The non-bot edits I believe were made from the hour ago streak. Thus the edits are getting interwoven.

(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Margaret's Church (Wray Heights)‎; 23:24 . . (+90) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Luke's Cathedral‎; 23:23 . . (-14) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . Lockettside Republicans Army‎; 23:23 . . (-2) . . Devilz-fury (Talk | contribs) (→What we do - ) 
(diff) (hist) . . m User:Rikev‎; 23:21 . . (0) . . Rikev (Talk | contribs) 

So...WTF?

If there's some edits during actual UTC 00:20 to 00:24, they should intersperse with an unbroken bot edit streak. If anybody else is getting this error, you could turn turing on bot edits in RC and seeing the result.

For the record, this is the streak as of now, currently just far enough into the future to be undisturbed.

(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Louis's Hospital (Edgecombe)‎; 00:24 . . (+39) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Louis's Hospital (Chancelwood)‎; 00:23 . . (-18) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Lazarus's Church (Paynterton)‎; 00:23 . . (+57) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Laurence's Hospital‎; 00:23 . . (+44) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Joseph's Hospital‎; 00:23 . . (+74) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. John's Hospital (Lockettside)‎; 00:22 . . (+82) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. John's Hospital (Gibsonton)‎; 00:22 . . (-105) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. John's Cathedral‎; 00:22 . . (+24) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Joachim's Church (Starlingtown)‎; 00:22 . . (+60) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Jeremy's Hospital‎; 00:22 . . (+58) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Hubertus's Hospital‎; 00:21 . . (+86) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Holy's Church (Starlingtown)‎; 00:21 . . (+16) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Henry's Hospital‎; 00:21 . . (+91) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Helier's Hospital‎; 00:21 . . (+72) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Helena's Hospital (Roachtown)‎; 00:21 . . (+43) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . UDWiki:Administration/Vandal Banning/Archive/2009 03‎; 00:20 . . (+132) . . Zombie slay3r (Talk | contribs) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Gall's Church (Pennville)‎; 00:20 . . (+49) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Ferreol's Hospital (Dartside)‎; 00:20 . . (+81) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . N User:A Helpful Little Gnome/A8‎; 00:20 . . (+956) . . A Helpful Little Gnome (Talk | contribs) (New page: {{UDGame| top=Somewhere| NW_location={{UDBox|B7|a field}} | NW_color=Field66| 

Anybody know what the hell's going on? -- Rooster Dragon 23:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The same thing was happening to me. Oddly enough, the wiki was awfully slow around that time. Linkthewindow Talk 00:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought maybe a DST change, but that's not til late this month. It also happens at 1/2 AM depending on whether we're stepping on or off. My preferences reports the server time correctly, and my local time correct too (not hard, no offset) I am considering making an edit summary that will "pre-empt" another edit just for the awesomeness though. --

Rooster Dragon

00:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Yup. One awesome for me.

(diff) (hist) . . m User:A Helpful Little Gnome/A7‎; 00:11 . . (0) . . A Helpful Little Gnome (Talk | contribs) (eh x2) 
(diff) (hist) . . m User:A Helpful Little Gnome/A7‎; 00:10 . . (0) . . A Helpful Little Gnome (Talk | contribs) (eh) 
(diff) (hist) . . N User:A Helpful Little Gnome/A7‎; 00:10 . . (+922) . . A Helpful Little Gnome (Talk | contribs) (New page: {{UDGame| top=Somewhere| NW_location={{UDBox|B6|a field}} | NW_color=Field67| N_location={{UDBox|B7|a field}} | N_color=Field66| NE_location={{UDBox|1Wood1|Woodland}}| NE_color=Woodland| W...) 
(diff) (hist) . . m Wiki Questions‎; 00:09 . . (+1) . . The Rooster (Talk | contribs) (→Time Travel? - I am using my time travel powers to known the AHLG is about to create a page in his subspace, titled A7. Then double eh when it goes wrong!) 

And minus half an awesome for the "known" typo as opposed to "know". Or maybe that is correct. Bloody time travel, screws with tenses. --

Rooster Dragon

00:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I've asked Kevan. I suspect it's just a weird bug. Linkthewindow Talk 00:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Aaag, what's going on? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

conflicted Time's caught up Gnome, we'll be fine now.

Good show, Link. I'll just wrap up with this bit, I had the bot run 6 extra edits just to show how the edits got interwoven. (Seven, if you count that fact it then recorded that brief streak in the UpdateReport) Compare to the earlier list I posted before time caught up.

(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReportTimekeeperBot/UpdateReport‎; 00:24 . . (-2) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Last update has been recorded.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Louis's Hospital (Edgecombe)‎; 00:24 . . (+39) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Louis's Hospital (Chancelwood)‎; 00:23 . . (-18) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Lazarus's Church (Paynterton)‎; 00:23 . . (+57) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/The Elson Building‎; 00:23 . . (+76) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Laurence's Hospital‎; 00:23 . . (+44) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/The Edgecombe Museum‎; 00:23 . . (+96) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Joseph's Hospital‎; 00:23 . . (+74) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. John's Hospital (Lockettside)‎; 00:22 . . (+82) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/The Eden Museum‎; 00:22 . . (+50) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. John's Hospital (Gibsonton)‎; 00:22 . . (-105) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/The Dunham Building‎; 00:22 . . (+61) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. John's Cathedral‎; 00:22 . . (+24) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Joachim's Church (Starlingtown)‎; 00:22 . . (+60) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Jeremy's Hospital‎; 00:22 . . (+58) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/The Doubting Building‎; 00:22 . . (+44) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/The Dooley Building‎; 00:21 . . (+75) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 
(diff) (hist) . . b User:DangerReport/St. Hubertus's Hospital‎; 00:21 . . (+86) . . DangerReportTimekeeperBot (Talk | contribs) (Bot Edit. Over 1 month since last update, status set to Unknown.) 

What fun. -- Rooster Dragon 00:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

No, I can't edit my userspace still. Summary from a page I tried to create "funny thing is, this page isn't in my contributions or RC, yet the code is here and there's a history. It also goes straight to the edit window from A8" -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, everything seems fixed, including my userpage problem. This wiki never ceases to amaze me. :O -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 16:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Template Creation

People appear to use templates for creating awards/badges for all manner of things and I was wondering if there are any rules outlying their creation? I've considered creating my own several times for different purposes (mostly fun) and I want to know if there any requirements I need to fulfil? Category:Templates and Help:Templates have told me how to make one but not if I'm allowed to.

On a side note putting Category:Templates does not include it as a link... why is this? (It's actually in both sentences without the <nowiki> tags! --Kamikazie-Bunny 19:57, 31 May 2009 (BST)

Use [[:Category:Templates]] (notice the colon at the start) if you want to make it a link that doesn't include the page in the actual category. There is no specific rules about template creation, but unless they're used on multiple pages (or likely to be), mostly it's better to just put the code on the page itself -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 03:06 1 June 2009 (BST)

Thanks. --Kamikazie-Bunny 21:18, 1 June 2009 (BST)

Wiki 'Zerging'

Is there any defense against one user creating multiple wiki accounts and causing grief for other users? This could include voting multiple times for a suggestion using different accounts, plus spam and the like.--Degree7 05:33, 15 August 2009 (BST)

Sure, A/VB. No one is allowed to vote multiple times with different accounts. And teaming up on someone with alt user accounts can be viewed as bad faith as well. But it needs confirming with more than just suspicion -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 06:50 15 August 2009 (BST)

Isn't that a tad tough to prove though?--SlegthVonDraco 07:43, 26 September 2009 (BST)

No. We can compare IPs of users. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:10, 26 September 2009 (BST)

How about if the log on to a school or public computer.? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sexualharrison (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

That can easily get around the system, yes. Truth be told, we rarely rule that two accounts are the same unless we have some very substantial evidence that they are run by the same person, ie. ip addresses. Using an account from school can cause "damage", though it's easily reversible and the vandal alt will get warned (most likely banned if they trip up any suspicion/evidence it's an alt). Despite this, yes, it will in most cases avoid the actual blame coming down onto the real culprit's main account in the end. --

15:24, 28 July 2010 (BST)

Table spacing

I can't find or figure out how to make a dead space between rows in a table. I would like to put just a blank line or two between my characters on my user page, ideally without resorting to using empty cells. Is this possible, if so, how? Thanks. Captdrett 22:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I'd suggest making each one its own table, then putting some line breaks between the tables. Otherwise, inserting an empty row really is your best bet. You could also try to use cell spacing, but I don't think it'd achieve the results you want. —Aich on— 23:13, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Wasnt sure where to put this...but how do I advertise?

And is it acceptable to advertise in certain ways but not others? I'm trying to make a Survivor Mall Tour but noone knows about it. I dont wanna bug its just that survivors probably "need" this: something fun to do that gives an excuse to repair areas and kill a ton of zombies efficiently. Right now everyone is just in their own lil' groups, not helping each other out exactly.

So how do I advertise? Any free ways? And so on...--Supercohboy 19:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Category:Recruitment. Make an ad for your group as a sub-page, e.g. Survivor Mall Tour/Recruit, and then link it there as instructed on the page.--Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:54, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, groups are helping each other out. My survivor group (40-50 active members) is currently out of their home suburb, helping another group/suburb get back on its feet. And I know The Big Prick has been organizing an RP cleanup of eastern Malton for a few weeks now, which is just starting to get underway. Plenty of groups are helping other groups out. But yes, as Yonnua said, post on the Recruitment page. —Aich on— 02:32, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Also, I just knew saying that would offend someone eventually, and I know there are groups out there that are helping each other, but I meant in the big picture there are more zombies working together and making a bunch of targeted events then we are, and it is messing up Malton*! I want to help by making an event we all can look forward to as survivors. *Messing up Malton in a non-Barhah point of view. You zombies are fine bringing Barhah, we just need countermeasures!--Supercohboy 15:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Images as direct links

I've seen, on a few different wikis, coding allowing images to be used as direct links to other pages - not like the redirects we tend to use here (such as with Iscariot's sig, for a prominent example). Examples of this can be see with the sprites here, or with the flag images in the infobox here. Now, I'm not a huge fan of redirects, and if it were possible to set up something like that here, I'd make use of it, but having viewed what source code I have, I'm not entirely sure I understand it. From what I can gather, the first example runs from a standardised image archive, the likes of which we don't have, while the source code for wikipedia's example seems similarly tied to a small subset of images. Basically, is there a way to do this kind of thing in a manner which allows any image on the wiki to be used as a direct page link? 22:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Pretty sure I've seen this before, but it might be that the mediawiki isn't good enough to sustain it. I had a fiddle, but I couldn't see an easy way of doing it. --Yonnua Koponen^{Talk ! Contribs} 23:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, after checking out the template calls on WWII flag image template, [3], I didn't go further than that page I just linked cause I'm concentrating on a lecture atm, but judging by the code it's most like a div template hovering over the image that links straight to the page, so you can't actually click the flag cause it's hiding behind the transparent template of the same size. I believe Rooster (it might have been AHLG and Iscariot too) spent a bit of time in 2009 messing with the concept. --

23:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I tried an alternate way than redirects originally, but couldn't get it sustain large areas. The aborted attempt can be found here if you're looking for an alternative to redirects. --

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~~That should work, thanks. I'm trying to fix my sig with images so it actually displays right, so nothing's going to be much bigger than a tiny image. Cheers. 23:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)~~ Wait no, scratch that. Can't line up stuff with it horizontally. Thanks anyway, though.

23:59, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

As shown on this test (banner at the top), even when putting in larger values I couldn't get the link area to sustain beyond a certain limit. It might work for sigs, but I'd do some serious beta testing first, that example was for Bob, but I don't recall him ever using it so it's never been put into the wilds to interact with page code and other people's sigs. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 00:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

For those following at home, this page now contains last year's tests, combined with a proof of concept and a rendered sig using this method. My only real concern with this is the increase in template calls within the templated sig. It might be possible to use raw code as a replacement for the click template, but I just can't be bothered at this time of night. This concept will also need testing regarding its interactions with other common coding on talk pages and in sigs before I'm happy for them to go into the wild. Comments? -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 00:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll be fiddling up the raw code as soon as I have the images finished, then we can see what it looks like on bigger and busier pages. Thanks again, Iz.

00:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Update the second, Mis and I just tried the multi-templated version in my sig. The template calls didn't cause page breakage, however we found that the sig would automatically rejustify itself on a new line, away from indented comments and that it would displace the timestamp as well. My table speak is exhausted. Spellcasting: SUMMON CODEMONKEY. --

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It's never going to work like that, other wikis use some sort of extension for signature images like that. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 04:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sick and heading to bed in a sec, so you'll have to excuse the fact that I just skimmed what you all said, but I can think of two possible ways to rig this up by using the technique that was described earlier (covering the image with a link).

Set the image you want as the background image for a div. After that, create a link in the div with span around it that has display:block set for it and its width and height matching the size of the div. You can see an example of how to create a link with span in that manner here (mouse over Dakerstown on the map).
If you can't set wiki images as background images (I honestly can't remember if it's possible at the moment), then do the same thing with the link as what I said for #1, but make sure its first in the code, with position:relative, float:left, and a z-layer that is higher than that of the image. Then, just have the image in the div like normal after that. Assuming my brain isn't horribly addled (and it might be), the image should just float under the link, meaning it'll work as desired.

If neither of those work, or nobody can get them working, I'll see if I can find some time in the next few days to put something together, but it should be possible. All of the other things I saw mentioned here seem to require additional extensions (but again, I only skimmed). Hope this helps. And now, to bed... —Aich on— 07:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

We can't set background images. Mediawiki itself is coded to remove the image code as it's a "security threat" (I think it's something about external images executing arbitrary code, but don't quote me on that. I don't get why you couldn't use local ones either). You put the code down, and the parser will silently remove the whole lot. The only thing that makes it when setting a background definition is the background-color attribute.

So the other, working, option is just laying a big div on top. You then have to set a link up using spaces to fill the box. Unfortunately Click doesn't take the best route to it. It's uses a 100px font size and 3 non-breaking spaces to set up the link. 3 nbsp's aren't even 100px wide, and only 100px tall because of the font-size. So anything bigger than that and you won't get it covering the whole area.

I think I can make it less fail and create a new version once I post this, but I'd still recommend image redirects for signatures. They work just fine and don't require the additional template call, and the template is a bit kludgey anyway.

Skimming quickly the mediawiki documentation on images, it seems they added a handy link= parameter as of 1.14. We're on 1.9.something IIRC. So add it to the list of stuff we don't have. --

Rooster Dragon

18:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

In reference to your second paragraph, I've already tackled that problem if you check the link I provided earlier to here. Anyway, rather than explain how it can be done, I'll just link an example of it in action. I changed the link's color to be semi-transparent red, that way you can see that it's overlaying the image, but it'd be trivial to remove that coloration. Does this satisfy what everyone was looking for? I can clean up the code and simplify it a bit, maybe even toss it into a template, if people want it. —Aich on— 18:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I lost points for skim reading your previous reply. And I just fixed {{Click}} to be less fail too. You should go ahead and alter that template. In the meantime, perhaps there's other stuff I can solve half-assedly that you already have solutions for? --

Rooster Dragon

18:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you think you could possibly stop fucking arbitrarily altering the templates others are using, particularly if you're going to make them worse? For fuck's sake, go create a new version and we'll decide which one we prefer. --

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Apologies, I forgot you had tests for it. But I don't see that I broke anything. --

Rooster Dragon

19:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, according to your own documentation, five times height/width causes breakage whereas the old one had no such limitation. Going backwards is not good. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 19:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

The previous version left out the note that it failed above 100px high or ~80px wide. Far worse, in my opinion. --

Rooster Dragon

19:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

More often than not, you're the one with the solution that I'm looking for. Anyway, Click looks like it can be simplified quite a bit if we use my approach, and my approach also has the advantage of not showing the underline through the middle of the div when you mouseover the link (the text of my link consists of a single space with a font size of 0px, so the underline doesn't appear at all). I'm pretty sure my approach would also work for any size at all. I'll toss together a template quickly, as per Iscariot's suggestion, and you guys can see what you think of it. —Aich on— 18:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, added a bit to the demo page to show off the new template in action. If it looks good, feel free to move it to the public namespace with an appropriate name. Also, mine lets you set the mouseover text if you want, which Click doesn't do, I just realized, but otherwise you should probably be able to swap mine in directly for Click, since they need the same variables. —Aich on— 18:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Seems fine, may as well just replace Click outright. --

Rooster Dragon

19:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I fixed up a few more things, so now you can have multiple image links on the same line. I think it probably also needs some fool-proofing done in cases where the sizes are set incorrectly. I notice that Click has overflow properties, which might be useful here as well. Otherwise, it's close to being or is ready, I'd say. Let's see what Mis thinks. —Aich on— 19:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I owe you guys pints.

16:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I accept cookies as well. ;) —Aich on— 17:35, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I will accept Fiffy being flown over to the UK instead of pints. --

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Seconded. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 18:41, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Iz mah Fiffeh! U cantz haz! :P --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 18:44, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I did a bit more editing, and near as I can tell, it works in almost every major browser. I've fool-proofed it a bit too. All told, I made the following changes:

If you set your height too small for the link to cover the entire image, the image gets cut off. Should be obvious to the user, I think.
If you set your height too large and the link exceeds the image, rather than giving you blank space that acts as a link, the excess area is colored in fuchsia and instructions for fixing it show up in that space (true story).
IE8 degrades gracefully, near as I can tell, and in most cases acts as if the link wasn't even there (i.e. you should still use image redirects for IE users). I didn't test IE7. And I'm willing to bet that this thing breaks IE6 all to hell.
Issues with cross-browser vertical alignment seem to have been fixed (FF was behaving differently than WebKit).

Take a look at the new examples I've posted here to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Anyway, unless someone sees issues in their browser, I think it's done. I'm just hesitant to replace Click myself. ;) —Aich on— 02:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, after seeing several of you guys copying the code from my Sandbox to use in your signatures (*cough*Misanthropy, DDR, Axe Hack*cough*), and with me wanting to clear it out of my Sandbox, I figured it was finally time to sort this thing out once and for all (at least you all had the decency not to include my Sandbox page in your sigs). Since I didn't know for sure whether my template was a drop-in replacement for Click that would always work where Click had worked, or if there might be some edge cases where Click worked but my template didn't, I've been really gun shy about replacing Click. Instead, I just went ahead and set it up as a new template, just to be safe. Well, more precisely, two templates: Template:ClickInternal and Template:ClickExternal. As the names imply, the first is for internal links, while the second is for external links, and they should both work just as you guys expect already. Let me know if you run into any trouble with them. —Aich on— 20:42, 8 August 2010 (BST)

That's cool, but I subst-ed your old template so I'm using the raw code, you could have cleared it out a while back.

20:45, 8 August 2010 (BST)

Sure, I could have, but then what would everyone else have done? :P —Aich on— 21:00, 8 August 2010 (BST)

It should be noted that images can now be used as link as a feature of the wiki software. For instance, . It works for external and internal links in the same manner you'd expect. —Aich on— 05:20, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Wrong Page?

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/People_of_Malton/Headquarters

I found this page linked in the Malton Fire Department building listings. TheBardof Old

If it was linked there before, it's not now. These are all of the links to that page right now. —Aich on— 06:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure where you're coming from. What do you mean and what does it mean in terms of the question you are asking, if any? --

06:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I the coding.

Kudos if you get the reference in the subject title.

Anyway, I was working on a part for Ross's new town and I seem to have ruptured the very fabric of coding that was in place.

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User_talk:TheBardofOld

It used to have a form like the one above it. If anybody can help me out and fix it, I'd be eternally grateful. -- TheBardof Old 04:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, figured out the problem. -- TheBardof Old 05:33, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Policy on Impersonation

I have a question regarding the content allowed or not allowed on group pages, related to UDWiki:Specific Case Editing Guidelines. If a group attempts to impersonate and claim to be part of a different group that is has nothing to do with, can this be prevented? Can such a group be forced to include a NPOV introduction containing the notice that the following claims and so on are POV?
I am aware that impersonating another wiki user is considered vandalism, does this apply to impersonating another group as well?
An example is the page Malton Vice Unit. While this group most obviously claims to be a part of the DEM and is impersonating it, as a matter of fact it is in no way affiliated with the DEM. Can this group (if it even is a real group, which can be doubted) be required to preferably remove the DEM references or at least include an introductory notice that the connection to the DEM is POV/RPing/whatever but not a fact and thus untrue?
Thank you, G F J 14:27, 19 April 2010 (BST)

I firstly must thank you for that NPOV notice on the NDEM, that'll do wonders for my chances to get a policy through to ban enforced NPOV sections.

Remember that the notice at the top must be NPOV, which means you going "They're not us!!1!" is not NPOV ;)

Anything else on those pages is up to the group in question. Which means they could put sections about that top notice being a deliberate lie and that in fact they are the dedicated rotted zombie wing of the DEM that are unleashed on any survivors that remind the metagame that you alt polices break the basic laws of this game as set down by Kevan and there's nothing you can do about it. I'd remind you that editing another group's page outside that NPOV into paragraph is vandalism, as is altering that paragraph from NPOV to emphasise any opinion you may have about them. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 20:33, 19 April 2010 (BST)

Basically, you can add a brief, neutral explanation to the top of the page, explaining any deceptions. But you must be prepared to justify any claims you make in arbitration if you do, and it is challenged. You can also remove the page from any category owned by your group, no matter where on the page they include the category tag. Sometimes this may mean subst'ing a template (like the DEMnav one on that page) and removing the category manually -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 10:06 20 April 2010 (BST)

Not really. On his group's templates he can, but not when the problem is community templates that the DEM has seen fit to brand as their own with a category tag. Especially when he's already been going around demanding people remove themselves from his category when the fault is his members not knowing how to <no include> them on template pages. The fault is with the DEM here, not wiki users. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 10:18, 20 April 2010 (BST)

Template:DEMnavbar isn't a community template. It's a DEM template, created by the group, for the group. Using it on a page not affiliated with DEM, in order to impersonate them isn't what it was designed for. They're within their rights to remove pages that do use it from the DEM category, if they don't belong there. Putting category tags in group specific templates is a legitimate way to ensure they are all categorised correctly -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 10:28 20 April 2010 (BST)

Thank you for the replies, Boxy. They certainly helped to clear this up. And yes, the Navbar template is indeed not a community template, it is group specific, edited only by DEM members and intended only for internal use. G F J 12:15, 20 April 2010 (BST)

It makes no difference, you'd be better sticking no include tags on it as you cannot prevent groups using code and content, so they can still use an exact copy of that template. Still no response on why community templates somehow find themselves in the DEM category? I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. --

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. <== DDR Approved Editor 13:21, 20 April 2010 (BST)

Just replace their use of the template with the code, and leave out the category tags. Here's some precedent for you -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 04:31 21 April 2010 (BST)

Content outside page area

I know it's normally forbidden, though permissable when there's a pressing reason. Now, on my talk page I really like everything having the biggest header possible and that means 90% of the time I have to fix the way that the "+" button adds a second-level header automatically. So what I want to know is, would anyone actually give a toss if I were to throw a fixed-position blank space on my talk page that hid the "+" button so it couldn't be used, forcing manual addition of new headers? 23:32, 10 June 2010 (BST)

Lol! Dude, there is a secret button which does that that is in the wikis coding and therefore isn't against policy. ;D --

06:59, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Despite my teasing, I'm gonna come right out and admit I don't know what it is anymore, I've forgotten. The only example of "+ mainpulation" on the wiki is UDWiki:General Discussion, where Linkthewindow (god bless his beautiful soul :*() added the secret word which forced a + tab on non-talk page. There's an opposite one somewhere, I swear. --

07:01, 11 June 2010 (BST)

The magic word to remove "+" appears in a more recent version of the wiki that we don't have. --

Rooster Dragon

09:37, 11 June 2010 (BST)

It only works properly if you're using the default skin. The increased usage of content outside the normal page area annoys me, regardless of the "pressing reasons" that some people come up with to justify using it -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 09:28 11 June 2010 (BST)

Good luck convincing everybody using CustomTitle that other skins even exist. --

Rooster Dragon

09:37, 11 June 2010 (BST)

I'd definitely be okay with a minor use such as this one. It's the obviously annoying ones that I take issue with, such as when they block my edit box that appears at the top of the page, as opposed to the bottom, or ones that block the nav bar on the side. —Aich on— 13:21, 11 June 2010 (BST)

Grumpyface

Is {{CURRENTHOUR}} infallible? Or can one page using it lag behind others? --VVV^RPMBG 05:25, 22 July 2010 (BST)

Pages get cached by the wiki software, resulting in some pages lagging behind others. They'll eventually update, but I've seen cases where they're a few hours off before. From what I can tell, the more unique people visiting the page, the sooner the wiki will refresh the page, though that's just anecdotal and a guess at best. However, doing a "null" edit (i.e. edit the page, then save it without making any changes) will result in it being updated to the correct time, or you can use ?action=purge in the URL to force it to purge the cache for the page. Both of those do work, but require manual intervention. —Aich on— 06:53, 22 July 2010 (BST)

Even just previewing the page without any edits would refresh it too. I've found myself needing to do it a few times on my user page, it's as easy as a null edit only it doesn't clog up RC with nothings.

16:07, 22 July 2010 (BST)

Interesting. So the more traffic I attract, the better gaming experience people will have. I can definitely put ?action=purge to use, though. Thonx. --VVV^RPMBG 21:56, 22 July 2010 (BST)

Well, as I said, that idea about more people is a general observation I've made, and shouldn't be taken as hard truth. The other stuff I'm sure of though. —Aich on— 22:40, 22 July 2010 (BST)

Null edits don't show up in RC or on Watchlists, Mis. At least they don't if you do them right (e.g. I just did a null edit of this page right before this edit). Also, merely previewing does not always do the trick. Previewing does let you see what the page would look like if it weren't cached, but it does not actually clear the cache in and of itself, I believe, so others may not see what you see necessarily. —Aich on— 22:40, 22 July 2010 (BST)

Permission to edit one of Ross's pages

Alright, so I have some revisions for my earlier submissions to Rosslessness's discussion page for his Unemplementia project. The only thing is, I've been reprimanded for editing his page and since Ross is supposedly camping, I don't want to be whacked on the head again by sysops.

Should I just wait for Ross to return or make the editions? -- TheBardof Old 10:38, 16 August 2010 (BST)

Hmm. he said he's away but he just edited Kevan's talk page so if you ask quickly you might catch him just now. --

10:46, 16 August 2010 (BST)

Go ahead! --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 10:50, 16 August 2010 (BST)

Oh, ok. Thanks Ross. Ignore the new topic on your talk page. It's irrelevant now =D -- TheBardof Old 10:52, 16 August 2010 (BST)

Wiki page descriptions

Just for clarification, is it considered vandalism if you delete and/or modify the descriptions of building descriptions that are really hard to read due to poor sentence structure, poor usage of spelling and grammar, as well as being biased towards zombies? -- TheBardof Old 18:08, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Care to provide an example?--

^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 18:38, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Oops, absolutely. The Veysey Building I meant to include this in the original post. Sorry 'bout that. -- TheBardof Old 18:50, 2 September 2010 (BST)

In my perosnal opinion I don't think it would be, but you may want to ask on a syops Talk page to be certain.--

^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:00, 2 September 2010 (BST)

I know for a fact if you do edit it and someone else signed it you need to indicate you edited the original work or else its crummy impersonation with what would probably be a soft warning as vandalism. I'm pretty sure you can edit descriptions how you see fit, just be wary of Mycock building. It has so much win on it already. --

Timmah!

Talk

19:08, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Personally. I'd create an archive page for all the old news. Most malls have them, as well as all the suburbs. Clear everything to that page. --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 19:11, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Alright, thanks for the answers guys. I will work on this later, but if you guys want to, feel free. -- TheBardof Old 19:17, 2 September 2010 (BST)

We'll let you have a go first Bard. The best way to learn is to do! --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 19:21, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Well, I've remodeled the page quite a bit. Check it out if you want or have the time. If I say so myself, it's a great improvement. -- TheBardof Old 20:25, 2 September 2010 (BST)

Looking around, I found another page that I'm iffy about changing. The Danger Building. Its wiki page is highly biased towards non-prolifers and in general needs editing, but I don't know if that'd be considered vandalism. Your thoughts? -- TheBardof Old 17:58, 6 September 2010 (BST)

That one's meant to be like that.

18:28, 6 September 2010 (BST)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't wiki pages supposed to adhere to a state of neutrality without being biased or did I not get a memo? -- TheBardof Old 18:32, 6 September 2010 (BST)

I believe that's just for the News stuff. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{^{^{^{^{#nerftemplatedsigs}}}}} 18:47, 6 September 2010 (BST)

The Danger Building is a parody and a piss-take. Its only bias is 'anti-trenchie'.

18:56, 6 September 2010 (BST)

Much like the extremely well written Danger Alley --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 21:21, 6 September 2010 (BST)

Image as border of page

I have a idea of making my wiki character page look like a manila folder, that you page through, however I'm unsure how to place the images to allow me to add text to the pages while having the top and right side as the images of the folder. A example of what I'm looking for is here: http://imageshack.us/f/803/peecefiles.jpg/ I also added parts of the images to my sandbox, but am unsure how to align things top, side, bottom, ect. Warren Peece 18:53, 12 May 2011 (BST)

I've cobbled a simple table together to align the two pictures. You need to edit them a bit to make them match up, though. As for text, best you could do is to add another cell below the header image and give it the background color of the images. If you need help on all of that, I can activate my Gimp and see if I get that thingus running. --Oh, and vote on Project Funny, by the way. -- Spiderzed █ 19:09, 12 May 2011 (BST)

Wow that was very fast, thank you. However how do I now place something below the top image and make it look as one image> Warren Peece 19:13, 12 May 2011 (BST)

Again thank you.Warren Peece 19:25, 12 May 2011 (BST)

I've just extracted the color code from the image in Gimp and added a cell filled with "Lorem Ipsum" below it - it should fit seamlessly. (Not sure why it doesn't properly align the text at the top as it should per valign="top", but I need to run away for a bit and can't tinker further.) Try out Help:Tables until I get back, or another user picks up. --Oh, and vote on Project Funny, by the way. -- Spiderzed █ 19:27, 12 May 2011 (BST)

The right side of the image no longer shows the tab part but rather a large yellow tab. I understand this is part of the table at the bottom so that I can type in the area, but, is their a way to show the tab at the top right, as well as drop the size of the entire page so that it actually fits? You have been greatly helpful, thank you very much. As you can tell I am completely daft of what to do with coding.Warren Peece 19:46, 12 May 2011 (BST)

Back. For some bizarro reason, it didn't let me use out the space directly under the top image for the text cell. So, I've crammed all the text into the same cell as the top image, which looks ugly, but at least lets me achieve what you wanted to achieve. I've also shrunk the images to about half their size. Think that should now have resolved everything. --Oh, and vote on Project Funny, by the way. -- Spiderzed █ 20:55, 12 May 2011 (BST)

Relevant. The image border is at the other side of the page, but it's the same principle. You just need to nest table cells - it's not as complex as it sounds, but you will need to visualise how to break then down. Draw a grid out and figure out what should be in each one before you start coding the table.

01:06, 13 May 2011 (BST)

I got a majority of the idea down, (thanks again Spiderzed) however it's not exactly what I'm looking for. It might be the images themselves. I want the entire page to look like the cover, with clickable links to other pages. The rest of the pages, will look like if you were looking inside a manilla envolope filled with typed papers, the file tap, with Warrens name will still be visable on all, and have a navation bar linking to other pages. Not even sure if this is possilbe, and I have absolutely no knowledge of how to do these things but I want it to look amazing. Warren Peece 02:13, 17 May 2011 (BST)

Tolman Catastrophe

Hello again. I was updating/working on my character descriptions when I saw that the link for the Tolman Catastrophe was broken, checked it out, and found out that the page was deleted by Vapor. Normally, I don't mind wiki updates, but why was this deleted since it's a part of Malton history, after all, it pretty much destroyed the surrounding area.

-- TheBardof Old 19:29, 19 July 2011 (BST)

It was brought up on a vote on A/D, and the deletion votes won out. Several similar pages were done at the same time. I think the information was migrated to location pages for some or all of them.

19:31, 19 July 2011 (BST)

It was up for a deletion vote. The information has been merged into Burges Towers and Tolman Power Station, as the article was too negligible to warrant its own page by the view of the voters. -- Spiderzed █ 19:33, 19 July 2011 (BST)

Alright. -- TheBardof Old 19:46, 19 July 2011 (BST)

Yeah sorry about that. I normally don't touch User pages to edit out dead links while deleting pages. The info about The Toman Catastrophe is found at Tolman_Power_Station#Post_Outbreak so maybe you can change the link on your character page to something like [[Tolman_Power_Station#Post_Outbreak|The Tolman Catastrophe]]. People can still click the link to find out more about the incident. ~

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