User talk:Mobius187

Me Retired? Why For?

Yup. If you're posting a message here you may have a long wait period before I respond, like say never. I have retired from UD and the UD Wiki. As such, please feel free to post only positive comments in which you lay fame and glory at my feet. All other messages would be pointless. Then again, when will I read all the new compliments? Ah, well. Good luck to everyone still playing UD. It really is a great game. :) --Mobius 00:55, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Lies Mobius, lies. We all saw your post on the Dulston Alliance Talk page the other day. Have you trully returned or was this edit a one off? And why even did you leave? Find out next time (that Mobius posts). Yonnua Koponen 17:13, 31 July 2008 (BST)

Gotcha! Updating Treweeke a few hours ago. Is that a comeback?-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]^{☼ T} 19:30, 31 July 2008 (BST)

Caught you on Whitlock this time. Seriously, stop pretending. Yonnua Koponen 12:21, 3 September 2008 (BST)

I just found an update of yours just before Xmas 2008. If you are back on even a semi-permanent basis, please contact me. I would like some advice and opinions on my group page, after seeing some of the amazing work you've already done. --Maverick 09:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe you.. 'Status Report: The fighting has apparently died down recently, and the number of zombies standing at Otto Street has diminished. --Mobius 14:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)' on BAR's Otto Street report.. 'In the meantime, Alliance recon continued to scour the area searching for hidden pockets of criminals and reporting them to the competition's scorekeeper, none other than noted NecroTech scientist Caleb Usher.'

I'm totally not here anymore. I left. Poof! Like magic. And on another matter altogether, why aren't you reporting scans to NecroWatch anymore? For shame! I move on and most of the people who posted scans stopped reporting in. What will become of the mighty NecroWatch Project? --Mobius 00:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

That proves it at last.. he is here?! Anyway, I HAVE reported scans. Also having to guard stuff is a pain. You have to get ammo.. You need to barricade.. you need to fuel generators.. Anyway. I'm back. Tec7890 ^T ^RCDC ^NW 00:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=NecroWatch/Team&action=history Tec7890 ^T ^RCDC ^NW 00:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

READ ME: A Word to the Wise

Like any good scientist I felt that this page needed some ordered logic to it. As such I have taken the liberty of reorganizing all the past topics under major headings and would advise anyone who wishes to post a comment to refer to each section to see where their post is best suited to appear. If in doubt, stick it under "Generic Topics". To view older topics check out my Archive page.

REMINDER: Please post your new topic at the top of the section, so that older topics are below it. Thanks.

Generic Topics

No idea where to post your topic? Then this is the place. If I think it should be posted somewhere else though be sure to check the page's History to confirm where your topic ended up. That said, remember to post the newest topics at the top.

Code Query

Mobius, a simple question: Do you have the required wiki knowledge to create the code necessary for getting NT scans to reset to a blank scan image after a set period of time spent un-edited? VI 04:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I actually read about your post on this topic elsewhere and spent a good chunk of time trying to figure out how to set this up. Normally the best way to logically code what you suggested would be to setup a variable to store the current date and the initial image (scan) upload date. Then you force a comparison that would take the individual values and determine if they exceed a set amount (i.e. 2 months). Then it's a simple true/false statement to set it to the current image or the static GIF. Unfortunately wikicode doesn't appear to handle multiple variables that well. After a while I gave-up on it and figured we could just employ a manual process or leave them as non-static. I admit however that scans from June 2008... not very useful. I wish the search option in iWitness wasn't gone or else I would have found more than the handful I located by scouring public iWitness reports... but that's another story. One day I may come back to it and see if there is anything I can do with the variables I have seen or figuring out a way to interact with an image's date value... but for now it doesn't appear to be likely. --Mobius 04:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Spoook

I gave you guys at the DA too much credit. On my way to the mall, you know what I saw... its ruined! How am I going to get my bullets to kill the PDA? The Second Coming is going to bleed you guys dry. --Spoook 01:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Words sure are nice. I know I like them. I like them because you can say a lot of things with them, but then what are words unless you can back them up? I for one think you're far more bark, than bite. You're really just another PKer who came out of the woodwork, and soon enough back you'll go again. You know I could sit here all day and mock you, or over on the PDA's talk page, but I figured both of us would prefer to let actions speak louder than words. And besides, I have better things to do. I'm a busy guy, I figured you were too... I guess not. But hey, if you want to grandstand with little to nothing under your belt so far, feel free to go for it. It amuses me. In truth, and I hate to tell you this... a little, the Dulston Alliance rates you as a small fry. When I mentioned your name, like I promised you I would so they knew you meant business, they actually thought I was kidding. After all, there wasn't much left of Maris Viridis after its ill-fated war against the Alliance. A bad call if you ask me, but hey, it's a game after all and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Anyway we all figured you had run off for greener pastures, which I guess you did since you were over in Starlington. As for the mall falling, well, we figured there were a lot of PKers in town so we'd make things interesting. The mall really doesn't interest the Dulston Alliance that much. I mean it's nice, but not that great. Anywho, I'm kinda busy revamping the RHVP wikipage so I con't really want to spend too much time here. Not that it's that interesting a conversation. It's like a 6 out of 10. My hope is I've said enough for both of us so that we don't need any further idle chit-chat. Have fun. --Mobius 03:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

You can't back up words unless you have bullets, if fact I'm really unable to do much without them. You make a better diplomat then Ottari. --Spoook 21:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

In my case words are all I have these days. In the forums and here on the UD wiki, as I have retired from UD (the game). You wouldn't believe how depressed some PKers become after hearing they can't kill me, but them's the breaks. If it makes them feel better the only 3 times I ever died was due to PKing. Zombies got nothin' on me, but apparently too much friendly chatter in Treweeke Mall proved fatal three times in a row for me! If you look around you might be able to find a news post or two I added back then about at least one of the incidents. I recall how there were so few zombies in Dulston those days that zombies were commonly attacked waiting at official RPs. Very annoying. Anywho, I finished my update of the RHVP wikipage. It's looking pretty sweet. I make make some touch-ups though. Now I shall go make some medals for the D.I.T.P.S, or should I say "finish" making them, and then I need to spend some time creating template trophies for the new PKer manhunt... busy-busy. Anyway, keep having fun. --Mobius 23:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I just a contract 20 minutes ago, so I'll be leaving, but I'll be back later. Yeah I heard you stop playing UD for awhile now, what a shame. --Spoook 01:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

The one time I don't come to the DA to stir trouble, you shoot me. And whats this about a contest? I hear from the other pkers that there is a contest going on, you could at least tell the players involved, like me. By the way can you make me a Anti-H.A.T. template, because I shoot just about anything, pkers or proles.--Spoook 03:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC) PS, I won't be in the area for much longer, got a contract. Just thought I should tell you for your book keeping. (Do I get a template for getting Shot?)

Ah, you're referring to the Hang 'Em High competition. Targets include anyone in a known PKer group, on the Black List, or who is infamous. As you're on the Black List you're a target. Also, because last time you commented that you wanted some extra fun I made sure you were added to the "Top 10 Most Wanted" list (10th place... but hey you're on the list). That means you're worth an extra point when executed (3 in total) for the competition. My recommendations are still the same as last time, if you would prefer not to be shot at either leave the area (the DA won't follow you) or ask for clemency (i.e. promise not to commit any further crimes like killing survivors who are not criminals, and by criminals I'm of course referring to those on the Black List). Your call. The last option is to just try and avoid being hunted until you're done in the area. The competition is strictly for members of the Alliance and its allies... you know... to make things in UD fun for bounty hunters. Let me know what you decide, if you want clemency I can always help move the process along, but I gathered from our last chat you didn't want to give up your current lifestyle. As for the template, are you referring to the "Honor Among Thieves Policy"? I might be able to whip something up, but not right away. --Mobius 05:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah the Honor among thiefs, yeah. I will say I had a good laugh getting killed by noobert, thats is the funnist person I have every gotten killed by. I just came back to resupply, but I can't stay. 10th place?--Spoook 15:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

N00bert always does his best when it comes to entertaining people. The 10th place was based on voting, with people voting based on who they felt was a real threat/annoyance. You ended up with enough votes to be on the list, but in 10th place. This either means people didn't feel threatened by you or you just haven't bothered that many people. Either or. And as per your request, here's a sweet new template for you to enjoy (template code: {{NHAT}} ):

	No Honor Among Thieves
	This user or group believes there is no such thing as honor among thieves. There is only the client and the target. Whether the target is a innocent survivor, bounty hunter, or criminal in the end they're all as good as dead when it comes to fulfilling the contract. Honor? There is no place in Malton for that nonsense.

What do you think? Classy, isn't it? I considered what you wanted it for and made it accordingly. I hope it meets your requirements. As I stated above, if you ever change your mind and want to just be a bounty hunter contact the Dulston Alliance, get that clemency, and help kick PKer butt in the northeast. Let us know. Oh, and if you are going to be in the area I would suggest avoiding buildings that are under direct Alliance control... or else you'll end up dead. Just some advice. --Mobius 17:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks good man, I think I'll take your advice and leave for the time being. When the DA wants do shooting, it dose it. I almost had noobert too, but got unlucky in the odds. http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/No_Honor_Among_Thieves_Policy --Spoook 23:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I just realized Lemonhead7t7 is a wanted man, & so is his group. I request clemency, and will begin to hunt them down.--Spoook 23:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Burchell Arms

Hate to be the one to have to break it to you, but the Burchell Arms is ruined, DA is slouched over the bar, gnawing on the beer taps, frustrated because he doesn't remember how to get the good stuff flowing :P -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 13:43 25 November 2008 (BST)

GASP! That's what I get for reporting news from the BAR's forums rather than seeing it with my own eyes. If you haven't already feel free to update the news accordingly. Actually update the news on any location you know about. All of my information is second-hand after all since I don't play UD anymore. ;) --Mobius 13:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I went brainROT RUM PKing there for a while, after Dead Animals/Redux. There's only a couple of other DAs left (AFAIK)... we're pretty feral these days -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 14:13 25 November 2008 (BST)

Pity about the DA and DA Redux. I've seen lots of good groups fade away over time. Have you considered putting your old group up for historical nomination? If you ever do, I'll certainly vote for it. :) --Mobius 14:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Na, we were never big enough, or did anything spectacular. Just persistent pains in the arse that got caught up in the wrong suburb for a small group of zombies ;) -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 14:23 25 November 2008 (BST)

Poster

Great New poster at whitlock. Thanks. Yonnua Koponen 18:40, 25 September 2008 (BST)

Not a problem. --Mobius 21:59, 25 September 2008 (BST)

HOW ON EARTH DID I MISS THIS!?!?!?!?!?! Yonnua Koponen 07:46, 21 October 2008 (BST)

Drive-by edits!

Something tells me you really didn't escape malton after all. ;) Welcome back? --Kikashie ^{Read the Dispatch!} 19:13, 19 June 2008 (BST)

Just wanted you to know we're going to be ratifying the Alliance Charter you made a while ago, and will be using it as a template for the Northeastern Union. Nobody thanked you properly for that, and it was some piece of work. Thanks a lot Mobius, really. --Kikashie ^{Read the Dispatch!} 04:54, 14 July 2008 (BST)

I would like to thank you for that, as well. Having taken the time to read over it, and making a few constructive edits to reflect the present nature of the Dulston Alliance, it is an excellent guide for that humble supergroup we know and love in the NE corner. Your work was, and always will be, greatly appreciated. If you ever choose to return, there's a few pints from the Burchell Arms waiting in the fridge at the Fortress of Science! Ottari^{DA PDA NW} Read the Dispatch!

Bye?

Are you gone... forever? Also, may you tell me about this way out of Malton? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 02:13, 16 April 2008 (BST)

Yup. I'm gone for good. There were two times before that I thought I was going, but after telling everyone I was going I never did that. This time I realized I had left UD after I noticed I hadn't come by the UD Wiki in over two weeks. Then I knew it had finally happened. Like the grim reaper, swift and silent. As for how to escape Malton, you don't need me to tell you. You'll find your own way out eventually, just like I did. I will say this, the way out is in the last place anyone ever ends up looking... ;) --Mobius 23:10, 24 April 2008 (BST)

:( 16 More NTs to complete the Nw/NT DB.. Good bye. Oh and I feel like I'm at a funeral now.(phsshh maybe he'll get re-airdropped in someday :D)--Tec7890 ^T ^RCDC ^NW 02:19, 25 April 2008 (BST)

NecroWatch Eye Symbol Origin

I was wondering where you acquired the eye symbol used on the NW pages. Perhaps you could enlighten me? -- User:VI/signature 14:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Through the power of Google my friend. I was searching using random key words like "watch" and "monitor", or some combination thereof, when I stumbled across the image. From what I could tell it was a stained glass window which I edited slightly with Photoshop (i.e. removed bordering glass, adjusted alignment, cleaned-up image, ect). I certainly liked the final product. --Mobius 12:59, 31 March 2008 (BST)

404

Hi. I've discussed with my group your offer to help with the wiki page, and we'd welcome any help you could give. Viktor's been working on it a lot, and it seems he's pretty good with layout stuff (which I'm not). Anyway, you're welcome to help out with it if you wish. Thanks. :) --Emerald Green 09:43, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

SW Malton Necrotech Choice

Mobius: I choose the Cheeke Building. It has always played a key role in the recurring sieges of Thomson Mall, especially in 2005 and 2006. Seems kind of like a Southwestern Fortress of Science. --Ottari 01:55, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Greetings from the Abandoned!

Hey Caleb: First off, may I congratulate the Dulston Alliance as a whole for surviving that entire Big Bash ordeal, and the ruination that came afterward that lasted for weeks on end. I wish I could say the same for Yagoton. Rampant destruction of nearly all buildings in the area and the few remaining ferals have sent our members scouring for any safehouse in the area, as we try to contact what few allies we have left in the suburb, as well as attempting to maintain a revive point. After seeing that Dulston had returned to Green status, a few of our members have been sent on missions to your suburb in order to restock on much needed supplies of FAK's and revification syringes. For security reasons, these members will not be listed, but I humbly ask that the Dulston Alliance welcome them into the suburb, and give them safe haven while they gather goods to dole out to their comrades back home. Rest assured, our members entering Dulston will be equally gracious.

--Private Mark 00:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

As allies of the Dulston Alliance your group has every right to come to Dulston for supplies. Actually even if you had no alliance you would be welcome, as the DA doesn't turn away pro-survivor groups seeking supplies/shelter. A recent discussion with The Imperium had us explain that the DA doesn't "own" suburbs, but rather just helps keep them safe, whether by providing medical/revive services, or by punishing criminals so they attack DA operatives over the average unaligned survivor just minding his own business. Of course the best way to contact the DA is through its forums. Kikashie, one of the forum admins, recently revamped security so that everything is now ordered by forum group filters, so if you do have an account there let me know (here) so that I can grant you increased access. On that note, I will make sure that, if you haven't already posted the news, that the Alliance is made aware of your situation. I cannot speak for the Alliance leadership (as I have no rank/powers other than forum/wiki administrative ones), but I will inquire whether they can provide assistance. At the very least, if your group members are seeking revivals they will find them in Dulston/Pescodside. Also, be sure to check NecroWatch to updated NecroNet scans that may provide further tactical information. No matter what though, good luck. --Mobius 12:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

SE Recon

According to my data i've completed SE recon. you can check if this is needed --~~~~ [talk ] 08:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I have confirmed it. Congrats on earning the SE Master Recon ribbon medal. :) --Mobius187 13:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Just want to keep you updated: I wasn't arround any NW updating for awhile. One word - Monroeville. Ok, actually two: mapping Monroeville. Anyway, it's weekends and i finally found time to log on my malton characters (i think i lost about 150-200AP by ignoring them lately) and made some NecroWatch scans. Luckily enough, got myself All Seeing Eye in the process and [more than] 150 scans(!). Also i'm near the end of SW recon (6 left) - it has much less NTs than other forths. heh. --~~~~ [talk ] 15:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually i'm 1 NT far from claiming the SW too - i even have gen and fuel for it already, waiting for enough AP charge to scan and get away. About NT is SE, after a thought i've chosen The Malcolm Building as the "fort perryn's one" it has some history unlike most of other NTs in the area. --~~~~ [talk ] 17:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Good luck with that scan, as it would appear we'll need to update your medal on the Members wikipage then. Your NT decision has been noted and I will proceed with creating the appropriate medal ribbon. Now I just need to hear back from Ottari. --Mobius 19:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. SW earned too. Notably, there was a real-time combat with a zombie in the last NT, i talked to it in Death Rattle, but it din't respond :/ , so i've resolved this issue by leaving the hungry zombe behind and going away. --~~~~ [talk ] 11:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Roachtown and ALiM

Roachtown has been voted to be added to the list of Amusing Locations in Malton, usual practice states that the ALiM template should be added to such locations. Since Roachtown is a suburb page we feel that consultation with residents of the suburb should be undertaken prior to adding the template to see if people support/object to its addition. Seeing as you're quite active in Roachtown's wiki page history, please comment on the Roachtown talk page/my talk page/on the ALiM talk page with your views. Thanks!--Nick 06:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Reporting Back for NecroWatch Duty and Queries about Ghost Recon

As I've stated in the Talk page for the organization, I've started playing UD again after a two-week hiatus. Unfortunately, I'm sick, so I'm not really up to the hassle of cropping NecroNet scans out of PrtSc images then uploading them. I've resorted to posting links to the Iwitness reports of the scans I've done at Whittenside.

Someone changed the danger level of Whittenside into a Ghost Town. It clearly is not, as shown in my scans of the past couple of days. I don't think the person who changed the danger level for the suburb remembers the fact that the zed population has to be low and disorganized for that scenario to take place. There's plenty of zombies ganging up on the newly-set up safehouses of survivors sneaking into the suburb to fix it.

Anyways, despite the mistaken change in suburb danger level, do I qualify for the Ghost Recon ribbon? --The Masked Lurker 07:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I would have to rule that yes, you do meet the requirements for the Ghost Recon badge. After all, the badge is meant to help identify the correct/current status of any suburb marked as a Ghost Town. Don't forget though, the unspoken rule is that if you prove a suburb is not a Ghost Town you should follow-up by changing its danger level to one more appropriate to what the scans proved it to be, thus eliminating the mistaken perception. Thus the end result of your recon resolved the issue of an inappropriate danger level (i.e. not a ghost town). --Mobius187 13:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

NecroWatch

How come your NecroWatch pics contain black squares? --Memoman 18:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

That depends on who reports them. None of the scans I post/upload are actually mine (I'm retired from UD), rather they are reported to me via NecroWatch by someone else and I help by uploading them. It frees up people who just want to hand over an iWitness link and not have to worry about the work related to getting it posted. I don't mind doing the work if it helps share scans with everyone (I'm one of the helpful sort in UD). You can of course refer to the name of the person I reported the scan for if you want to follow-up with them (I sign in their name, as it's their scan and they get all the credit for it). --Mobius187 18:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

NecroNet scans on iWitness contain black squares instead of pictures for streets blocks. you may think of this as an iWitness bug. or feature --~~~~ [talk ] 21:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I always had a sneaking suspicion it had to do with unpowered buildings, but I suppose if that were true a recent scan from Clewett NT probably would have been a big black block. So I'll go with it being an unwanted feature. --Mobius187 12:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Skritz necrowatch

Uhm, its not my fault, i have problem with the wiki...XD

--Skritz

If you want, I can help explain anything you need. What exactly are you having troubles with? --Mobius187 12:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Raines Hills Problems

I'm finally finished with both Millen Hills and Raines Hills tours of duty. last 2 NTs took a damn lot of time, including dying few times, as you already know... Also i was even first in the Morgane, it still had "missing" static in the NecroWatch plug. Thus i'm first to complete raines hills tour of duty. woo! --~~~~ [talk ] 13:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Your choice in topic title had me worried there for a moment. I think "Victory over Raines Hills" would have been more fitting ;). Congrats on earning those ribbon medals and keep up the good work. :) --Mobius187 17:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Neutral Point Of View

Alright. In the interest of not being a complete and utter hypocrite when asking folks like Iggles and Vachon Blaze to maintain NPOV I'm launching a personal campaign to attempt to iron out the point-of-view kinks in the Dulston information pages. My own personal bias needs a cleansing as well, but I'm primarily doing this in an attempt to keep the zombie bragging down to a minimum (it may also be because my own group seems to be breaking up around me).

Obviously, this is not going to be an easy endeavour. Therefore I am requesting to enlist your aid in flattening the viewpoint in the Dulston article, the Treweeke article, and whichever other ones seem particularly suspect, as I am highly suspicious of my own ability to sense the lower levels of bias.

I'm not asking for a complete sandblasting of backstory and angle, mind- just trying to lower the mound a little. --Boris 18:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I'll see what I can do. Anyone can play the NPOV card if anything but facts are presented. That's why in most cases people keep NPOV comments to their own group wikipage (for serious NPOV/propaganda). Facts should speak for themselves, whether you like it or not. The only real way to get any NPOV into suburb news is by the "give 'n get" system. You pump out pro-survivor news, say, and then at the same time tip your hat by balancing it with pro-zombie news. So long as both sides are happy no one tends to complain. The moment a complaint is lodged then you're dealing with potential NPOV (of course that again depends on how far the news post strays from the facts).

One final note. If you are offended by any public news you have the right to move it to the suburb Talk wikipage and put a note mentioning that fact. I saw it happen in Pitneybank a lot of times, not to mention all the other suburbs I archive news for, it happens in lots of places depending on the degree of news bias. --Mobius187 22:15, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: Are you referring to the news Iggles posted for February 8th? If so, then I'm afraid you shall have to bite the bullet. I see nothing wrong with posting facts as he did. His speculation, that the mall is doomed... well, I hate to admit it but it seems very likely. Now you may not like that he's revealing survivor numbers, but there is no rule to state zombies can't post those numbers. Sure, it's frowned upon as "zombie spying", but there is nothing the UD Wiki has against it. I know, I read a past complaint about this. I checked my other Watch wikipage... and I haven't seen anything posted by Vachon Blaze... so I'm not sure what he posted that has offended you. Unless it's on the Infected Swarm wikipage, in which case he's free to post whatever news he likes there. --Mobius187 22:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Eh, I really shouldn't have brought Vachon into this. He really got under my skin back when the Swarm was rampaging over the suburb in December and I suppose it's stuck with me. Like I said, I'm well aware that I'm not without bias myself, and that I'm not always aware of when that Bias takes chance to crop up, which is why I came asking for help.

But! If no POV is to be found then I suppose the only one is myself (and I do need to work on that in the future). So I suppose it'd be best to just disregard all this. --Boris 23:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Uhm, Mobius, you're wrong. NPOV doesn't means content-less it means not doing junk like the "give and get" system. Please take a nice jaunt through both the NPOV talk page and UDWiki:Style Guide. As far as NPOV goes, as long as you aren't using Is or presenting things in an extremely slanted and biased manner it's usually let slide. --Karek^maps?! 01:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Clewett

Hmm.... I was hoping to post up my own scan from the Clewett facility, but noted you just posted up N00berts. Wouldn't really want to duplicate his scan... but I have the remaining 11 necessary to finish up my work. :-) Rhodenbank, Dulston, and Pescodside NT facilities. Shall I wait a few hours and then post a new scan from Clewett? --Ottari ^{NW DA PDA} 22:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

That's the best course of action. If pressed for time wait at least 1 hour and then scan. An hour might show some changes... maybe. --Mobius187 22:10, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll wait a bit anyway, as I'm in the area... still debating which building to finish the 150 at. The Fortress of Science, or my home at Clewett. :-) Maybe I'll try that new type of Coca Cola they invented and think on that for a while. --Ottari ^{NW DA PDA} 22:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Drink? Don't you sno-ah yes. Drink. Right. Keep up the good work. ;) --Mobius187 22:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm a Coke addict now. :-) The scientists at Clewett did a good job. Anywho... I submit, for your approval, 150 scans to the Necrowatch program. Also, I noted that the program has found scans for 89.81% of all NT facilities in Malton. Only 21 more remain unclaimed. We're doing quite well, I believe. --Ottari ^{NW DA PDA} 01:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but I numbered your entries, so now I can certainly see you have the requested 150 scans. Congrats! :D --Mobius187 02:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for numbering my scans. :-) I fixed the Bridgman issue... sorry about the mixup, I was probably half-asleep doing some wiki-editing. Anywho... things should be completely legitimate now. --Ottari ^{NW DA PDA} 23:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Mistake

Sorry it was a mistake was getting them to put on our hit list will you please correct it for me, was half asleep when I was working on the wiki if you dont I will try to fix it later thanks--Vachon Blaze 14:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

new ribbon idea

i was thing about replacement for ghost recon and here's what came to my mind. i want there to be a dangerous ribbon. but what can count as dengerous if limit to not refering other sources? the numbers in the scans themselves! a ribbon would be earned for a scan with some minimum number of specimen on it. --~~~~ [talk ] 21:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

p.s. this is how i keep a track of my recon progress. it also helps to plan the path a lot! --~~~~ [talk ] 22:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I spotted that little change to the member's list entry for yourself. Back to your point, I agree that your idea for a ribbon is solid. Even so, I think the original idea behind the Ghost Recon ribbon was meaningful, namely monitoring ghost town suburbs. What I need to do is retrict access to the ribbon, perhaps by imposing a 7-day wait period between claims (i.e. scans must be reported at least 7 days after the last set of scans) and require that should the scans prove the suburb is not a ghost town that the member update the suburb accordingly. Of course I do still like your idea and I've actually added it to my list of "new" ribbons. Yes, I had some in the works to help you guys feed your ever-growing hunger for medals. Your medal idea will be released alongside 2 other new medals. That said, I think that the guideline for the medal you suggested (which I'm tentatively naming the "Combat Recon" medal) would be "a scan with at least 150 zombies at one location, or 250 zombies (total) within the scan's range". After all, that meets the requirement for a Very Dangerous suburb, but at the same time allows for them to be scattered a bit depending on when the scan is taken. --Mobius187 00:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

SW Recon Master

I uploaded the last few scans necessary from Nixbank, New Arkham, Williamsville, and Buttonville today to qualify for SW Recon, or at least I believe. Any chance you could verify the truth of that? Also... I realize how we can have a reasonably flawless way of keeping track, even without having to sign on the Recon page, and with our outdated images having to be deleted per Sysop duties. :-) Each user's contributions page should keep a log, like my roughly 400 edits since January 1st, on my own Page. Even if the old images are deleted the contribution will still be logged as a permanent record. Of course, knowing you, the power of science probably already made you aware of that. Cheers! --Ottari ^{NW DA PDA} 18:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

That's also my way of saying... about 48 scans from now, I'll update the signatue page. :-) Gotta have some of that cake first. --Ottari ^{NW DA PDA} 02:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm a man set in my ways ;). I've analyzed the suburb reports against the NT Recon list and it appeared like you almost missed The Nevill Building in Kinch Heights. Then, being the kind of guy I am, I took a closer look at the image timestamp itself. You know, it's one thing not to sign for your first-time scans in the NT Recon wikipage, but an entirely different matter when you forget to sign/timestamp your updated scan image :P. Don't worry though, I signed it for you and timestamped it based on the time you uploaded the image. That said, I have confirmed that you have posted scans for every NT facility in SW Malton, and thus you have earned the SW Recon Master badge. Congrats. :) --Mobius187 03:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you most kindly. :-) My apologies for failing to sign the scan. Guess the hours at my new job have left me a little worn out. Thanks for being immensely patient during the whole Necrowatch process thus far. ----Ottari ^{NW DA PDA} 03:07, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

No prob. --Mobius187 12:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Generators and ruins

Nothing can stop you from placing generator in a ruined or ransacked building and refueling it. I actually made quite a lot of scans from ruined buildings that only had zombie population "guarding" ruin. powering ruin is specially good tactics as light is not shown on minimap (building looks like any other ruin) but boosts search rates to about those for normal unpowered building. some examples can be seen here Search Odds/Police Department Data and here Search Odds/Necrotech Building Data, look for the rows that have LR status. So what i'm saying is that scans don't give even nearly enough information to figure the danger level for the building, you don't know statuses: neither "ruined" (y/n), nor "barricaded" (level) nor survivor population inside. p.s. i had no idea you're not playing yourself O_O --~~~~ [talk ] 17:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Heh. I used to play UD, but then I "retired". My most famous character was Caleb Usher, so I still use his name when playing/posting in-character. This should also explain why you and the other NecroWatch members are so important to the project I started. Without you guys I would be forced to rely on outdated iWitness reports, and that's hardly conducive to what we really need. Anyway, thanks for the information. I'll leave status updates to those of you still in the field. ;) --Mobius187 17:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Work

If you insist on remaining a sysop, you may as well clean up the horrific mess your pet project has made. Go through Category:Necronet and purge all the non current revisions older than 7 days from them, as per A/G Scheduled deletions point 2. Each revision is only about 5-10kb, but they really pile up. Ive made a start for you. Edit: in a fit of spiteful helpfulness, ive gone and purged all the old revisions for you that are due up to today, killing maybe 200 MB of crap out. There are a whole pile that come due tomorrow though. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 16:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to do that. Would it be possible for me to move through all of the scan images and delete all past revisions of those images ahead of schedule (i.e. sooner than the mentioned 7 days since last linked)? Obviously the only significance of retaining the past scan revisions would have been to serve as historical footnotes, but as they are eating up server space I see no reason not to delete them all prompty (as in as soon as I notice and have the time). That way I could manage them without creating a possible scenario where the image/workload piles up unnecessarily. Of course I will not act on this until I hear some response from you on the matter (yay or nay), except for the images that are scheduled for deletion tomorrow. --Mobius187 18:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Stick to the rules. Its safer that way. If you want an exception, go to policy discussion. Also, i think you have the necrowatch scans in their own category. I didnt go through that particular one. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 06:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your advice. And yes, the scan images were placed their own category after I had a discussion (of sorts) with boxy and Duke Garland. They felt that this was the best way to track them all moving forward. Right, now I'm off to delete those revision images that came due today... --Mobius187 12:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Ghost Recon

You know I wouldn't usually want to add more work to your already full plate... but I do have a question. Duke Garland was wondering whether I technically earned the Ghost Recon badge in Judgewood. It was back on the 12th of January, I do believe. At the time, it was labeled a ghost suburb on the map. Seeing as you're the driving force behind Necrowatch, I figure you're the one best suited for judgment regarding this badge. Anywho... I better get back to Wyke Hills and try to claim that All-Seeing Eye badge before the others do. Otherwise, it will likely be a month or more before I'm able to again. Cheers. - Ottari

Well, for your trouble, I'll drop by the Burchell Arms on my way back to Pescodside. If Caleb has indeed left the town, then I'll find some mechanism to get a round of their finest ales sent your way. On second thought, let me dig through my supplies. Ah, here we go...

	SEARCH THE BOX
	This user knows a round of the Burchell Arm's finest beer is in that box!

No trouble. I mean, I can see Duke's point and it's a good one. But the problem isn't you, rather it was my initial ruling on how the ribbon badge was earned. I was too vague in that regard, when I should have had it more like "All-Seeing Eye" (no more than one person per month per ghost town), but then it would have been a real pain in the butt to get. Which brings up my point, NecroWatch isn't about stressing out over badges, it's about having fun and getting recognition for doing a cool job that helps people. I'm certain the people of Judgewood are happy three people came around and posted scans for their suburb, you guys probably helped them realize the suburb wasn't a ghost town. Anyway, I'll make more badges once you guys have collected every ~~Pokemon~~ err "badge", should you still hunger for more. I know there's another Tour of Duty out there... and maybe I'll dub one or 2 NTs with "special badges". Of course I'll need to do that before you guys claim Master Recon or else you'll auto-achieve these medals. :) --Mobius187 20:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Point well taken. On an unrelated side note... I'm using a modified suburb map page template to check off the suburb's I've completed for my own records. :-) Unfortunately, all I've gotten to do so far is blanking out the danger color to white every time I complete a suburb. I'll try to tweak the background colors a bit more. Check it out under the Necrowatch Scans section of my user page. -Ottari

I'll have to check that out... --Mobius187 20:50, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Bored.

Don't know if it helps, but I was at the tribe building in penny heights. Just now. Thought this may be of use. The image "Necroj.JPG" --Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 16:12, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll see about posting the scan to NecroWatch. You can also post similar requests on the NecroWatch Talk wikipage. --Mobius187 00:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Ive put up a link to join. Anything else I need to do?--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 15:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

That's it. I try and make it as simple as possible for people to join up. Be sure to read the FAQ, and then do as you please so long as you report scans (whenever and wherever you like). Of course you can also add this template to your user wikipage:

{{NecroWatch|Name=Rosslessness}}

That just says you've joined, but it's obviously not required. Also, as you earn ribbon medals feel free to avail yourself to the template I created specifically for displaying your medals, namely this one (feel free to post it anywhere you like on your user wikipage):

{{NecroBadges|Name=Rosslessness|Rank=1|ReconRank=|NW-ASE=|NW-GR=|NW-LH=|NW-EV=|NW-BW=|NW-BTD=|NW-ETD=|NW-MHTD=|NW-MTD=|NW-PTD=|NW-MR=}}

But of course it's not required either. Anyway I'll add you to the members list, be sure to update your "total scans" there whenever you post one or more, and most importantly have fun. --Mobius187 16:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Cool, Im aiming for my SE Recon Master badge.--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 16:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Good luck! :) --Mobius187 16:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Ive uploaded a scan in quarlesbank. Did i follow correct procedure?--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 16:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I have confirmed that you posted the scan perfectly. I should mention though that the "--" before your signature is not required as the template automatically includes it, but that's hardly a major issue here. But I still wanted to point it out. Anywho, the next step would be to record your scan by first going here, editing the list, and adding +1 to your total scans... which gives you 2 now (as this would be your second reported scan since January 1st 2008, when scans started to be counted). Secondly, be sure to copy your signature from the scan (your timestamp to be specific) and go here. What is this, you may ask. This is an alphabetical list of every NT facility in Malton. This list is used to confirm who has or hasn't scanned from a specific NT building. You now need to locate the NT facility you scanned from and sign there. For example, in this case you would go down to here, locate the entry for the "Milnerr Building" and edit it. Be sure to always add you name to the bottom of any list, as some members are tracking the order people reported for each building. It's kind of a race to see who can get to the most buildings first, but there is no official reward (yet). If you see the signature "Unclaimed", delete it and take its place. That's just a placeholder signature made by me until someone actually reports from that building. Also, and lastly (phew!), only members of NecroWatch are added to these lists, so ignore non-members who post scans because obviously they won't be earning badges. And that's it. I hope this helps. --Mobius187 16:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh my god. Just done The Longstaff Building, and its not on your NT list. How can I claim it? Is there a prize!--Ross less ne s s^{Want a Location Image?} 17:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I've so far added 5-7 buildings that were not originally on my recon list. The reason for this being that originally I figured the best way to record all the NT buildings alphabetically was to use Category:Necrotech Buildings. Sounds like a good idea, right? Well it turns out some people didn't grasp the concept of including every NT building in this category. So every time I come across one of these buildings I end up having to go to the location wikipage and fix the category (which erroneously lists it as a building, when in fact it is not "just a building" by definition of the location). I just did that for the Longstaff Building, and now I shall add it to the recon list. Keep on the lookout for any more of those "missing" NTs. --Mobius187 18:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

"A.L.I.C.E."

The "tests" that you have to undertake. They're borrowed from aperturescience.com, am I right? --Private Mark 07:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes and no. The idea, yes. The questions, no. I did use the test's initial commentary just so people would recognize it. Also if you examine ALICE's comments some of those phrases may sound very familiar, but with appropriate twists so the context makes sense. Even so, not everything is presented with that one source in mind since some concepts have mixed origins, such as ALICE. She is part "Red Queen" (RE), part HAL (2001:ASO), and part GLaDOS (Portal). Of course the bottom line is it's all about having fun. ;) --Mobius187 12:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Was just curious is all, and the test was pretty fun. :D --Private Mark 00:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

There is some trouble over the talk page, especially over the OOC/IC part...some clarification would be appreciated --TerminalFailure 6:41, 3 Feb. 2008 (EST)

There is? I would have thought it would be hard for anyone to take ALICE seriously, but if there is trouble then I plan on putting the brakes on it. Never fear, I'll turn tragedy back into comedy (so to speak). ;) --Mobius187 12:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Rhodenbank Status (My Talk)

I have replied (This is also my My Talk page, link above):

"Thanks, Mobius (for the complement) I think it's Revenant and Militant Order of Barhah. I will check what exactly the criteria for a dangerous suburb is after dinner. [Edit: Just read a External Military Radio Broadcast. "... reporting from Rhodenbank, I've got maybe seventy active ... a few big groups, but they're spread out ... several buildings with power ... serious collateral damage ... the Starr Building has lights on ..." --Tec7890 16:35, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Update. It is hard to determine the safety of Rhodenbank, but in the south area with all the NTs, It is reasonably safe (and I would consider those blocks 'moderate'. --Tec7890 18:38, 6 January 2008 (UTC)"

Split conversations are crazy to keep track of, so I'll drop by your Talk wikipage instead. Even so, I'm glad to hear that you're following up on these reports. I'm curious about the status of Rhodenbank and I hate it when anyone overstates, or understates, the threat to a suburb. People really need to back up ANY claims with links to iWitness reports or NecroNet scans (ala NecroWatch). --Mobius187 23:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay then, you might want to watchlist it. --Tec7890 23:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, Rhodenbank has been downgraded to Moderate. The scans are from The Carlyle Building and The Devonshire Building.

People should be able to rely on the UD Wiki for accurate information. So long as even one person reports accurately for each suburb then that should improve the state of information. Keep up the good work. --Mobius187 13:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Reply!

Yeah, I'll put it up on my page once I can think up Yabel's history. It's all spontaneous.-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 19:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Booo! -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 00:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Do I qualify for a Ghost Recon ribbon? (I had aquired a scan from the Peet Buidling earlier)-- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 21:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, let's take a look shall we? Which suburb is it? Ah, Judgewood. Is Judgewood a "ghost town"? Check. Does it have 2 or more NT facilities? It has 3 of them, so check again. Did you report from all of them? Check. Well it all checks out perfectly, so you've earned the Ghost Recon ribbon. Congratulations and keep up the good work. --Mobius187 23:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Your group has breathed life into my characters again. -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 20:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear it. Of course Project NecroWatch wouldn't be what it is today without the help of people just like you. So keep up the good work and together we'll make NecroWatch even better in the months ahead. :) --Mobius187 21:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Expedition

I messaged you on the DA forum to inquire whether or not a diplomatic position was still open. My leave of absence from the Pescodside Defense Alliance was approved, and I'll be setting out on a journey across Malton to promote both the Dulston Alliance and Necrowatch on January 1st. If you could let me know about that diplomatic position, or how to go about getting it, it would be much appreciated. Also, I kind of shamelessly plagiarized your userpage template to use to my own devious ends. I'll switch around the colors and links a bit to differentiate it from your own, but thanks! --Ottari 20:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

You're asking how to become a diplomat for the Alliance? Simple, just make your intentions known in the Alliance Chat. I'm sure no one would disagree as people are hardly fighting for the job. Then all you need to do is approach groups you feel would be good allies. I recommend ones that are not too far away from the NE Corner, or who are mobile enough that they could come if asked. One important aspect when signing alliances is to explain all the details involved so they know exactly what they are agreeing to sign. For example, it was very important to inform the DEM that the Alliance did not follow the Rogues Gallery, and that in signing a treaty with the Alliance they would have to forgo hunting Alliance members who were on the RG (if only for that reason alone). The purpose was to resolve disputes diplomatically rather than through random violence.

Also, you are free to use my wikicode as you see fit. The UD Wiki is all about sharing ideas. I'm glad that you like my wikicode enough to be reusing it. Have fun. ;) --Mobius187 20:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year Mobius! I left a belated Christmas gift for you over on the Blackmore Building Necrowatch page. When I heard the building was in survivor hands, I ran all the way from Rolt Heights (with a fuel can in tow) to get it. It's current as of about forty minutes ago, and of course the most recent update to Ridleybank's suburb news doesn't look half bad either. Hope you enjoy it, because it will be the first of many. --Ottari^{NW DA PDA} 17:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

A nice Merry Christmas from meh, *hic*, and the rest of the Abandoned! *hic*. --Private Mark 22:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

And a Merry Christmas to you too. :D --Mobius187 22:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey Mobius

When uploading the NecroWatch scans into the system, could you please put categories on them at the same time? I usually put [[Category:Screenshots]]; [[Category:Maps]]; and [[Category:Stats]] onto the image page. It'll just help us to keep the images categorized. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me on my talk page. Thank you very much. --Ryiis 15:15, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Certainly. At this stage there are not too many scans, as some are still using placeholder "static". I'll confer with you on your Talk wikipage to find the best possible category for these images (perhaps even a new one...?). --Mobius187 15:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey, just left you a note on my talk page. I think you should use [[Category:NecroWatch]] and [[Category:Screenshots]] for future images that you upload. I went through and changed a bunch, but didn't get through the last little bit (I didn't want to spam Recent Changes too much). I'll try and help out a little later on today if I can to finish categorizing your images. Thanks --Ryiis 16:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

It would seem that you completed adding categories for all suburb NecroNet images from suburbs A-R, so I completed the final wikipage worth of scan images (S to Z). If I post any new scan images I'll be sure to include the proper categories. Of course I cannot speak for others, as anyone can post an updated scan image. What I will say though is that I will routinely check the images, looking for timestamps that post-date December 22nd in search of any new ones lacking these categories. --Mobius187 16:50, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Necronet

You and your NecroWatch scans... is Image:StyleBuildingNecronet.png taking forever to update or did I do something wrong again? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 05:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Nope. It's 100% goodness as far as I can tell. Have you tried Refresh? I find that after I update a scan sometimes the image won't update until I hit Refresh. --Mobius187 06:15, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh. :) -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 06:22, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Have you categorized all the necronet images? -- AHLG T G THE END IS NIGH! 03:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, with the help of Ryiis (who apparently did most of the work). If you create any new images (i.e. for currently "missing" scans) be sure to include the NecroWatch and Screenshots categories for the image. --Mobius187 03:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me

I have noticed that since you were promoted five months ago you have done no admin work at all. I have started a discussion about it in A/D here. Id like for you to explain this curious lack of... y'know, serving the wiki and doing your job. Im also curious to find out what you intend to do about this situation. --The Grimch ^{U! E! WAT!} 03:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

My Work on Suburb Locations

Interested in my work on updating location wikipages? It's my hobby. Most of my work can be found in Dulston, then Pescodside, followed up by the group wikipages in those two suburbs. To some extent I've even made updates in Rhodenbank and Rolt Heights, but only minor ones. My goal is to have every location in the NE Corner with its own wikipage, and from there, hopefully other users will be inspired to add more in-game content (i.e. "Current News") that other players will find useful or at least add interesting historical value to the location.

Hey

Regarding this edit. Please don't remove the template from any location page unless the location doesn't appear on the list of Amusing Locations in Malton. If you feel that it doesn't belong on the list and that the template should be removed, you can put the location in question up for review on Talk:Amusing Locations in Malton. Thanks.--Nallan (Talk) 07:56, 6 August 2008 (BST)

Quarlesbank NTs

Hello there, I just want to say thank you for your work on said NTs! It's really nice that you took the time to do them all and they really add some 'pazzaz' to the suburb. I'm actually a member of the group which runs The Elson Building so seeing the NTs nearby having such a wiki remake is really good. So yes I hope everything works out with your project, good luck and thank you once again! I'll try and update it whenever possible but i'm currently pre-occupied with other things. Still, thanks...again and I hope i have put this message in the right place! Acou stic P i e 20:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Yup this is the right place. As of a few days ago I completed similar updates for every NT location wikipage in Malton, so there isn't a single one that doesn't have the same level of content. I think that what I've done sets the stage for other users to step in and further improve those locations. If you have some free time, feel free to add further unique touches to the building's description, or adjust anything that requires further details specific to Quarlesbank or your group. As for the Elson Building, well, it's Christmas so I took the liberty of giving your location wikipage a little make-over to help spruce it up. I hope you like it. :) --Mobius187 17:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thank you very much and thank you for taking the time to do the make over! All of us in the building wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! And if your character is ever in the suburb, feel free to pop round to the building and say hello. =) I wish you well in all ther other projects that you do in the future and if you need a hand with any please don't feel afraid to ask. Acou stic P i e 17:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Necrotech Icons

Hi, thanks, I'm glad you like the icons. I'm flattered that you want to replace the old Necrotech image with the NT icon I made - but replacing them wiki-wide is a huge undertaking. It would save work and may be easier just to replace the old (current) NecroTech image with an updated one (with the same dimensions so as not to mess up any layouts or custom things), I have a half-assed attempt at making a "nice" replacement here but I can do better if you want to go down this route, otherwise sticking to the icon is fine but you may have to do each instance individually.--Sunil 22:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

It's certainly no bother for me to include your icon in every NT wikipage, as I'm in the midst of updating those wikipages regardless as part of Project NecroWatch. So far I've updated the NT wikipages for 20 suburbs, so just about 80 more to go. Keep up the great work. --Mobius187 23:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Location Pictures

Hey, I'm still amazed every time I stumble upon a location-page of "yours". Where do you take the pictures from and how do you edit them. The Troubridge Cinema for example. Is the announcement board in the original original or did you edit that? Again, your work is the reason why I decided to stay in Dulston in the first place. Compliments!-- [ ρsych°Lychεε ]^☼ T 10:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

The location image for Troubridge Cinema was edited by me using Photoshop. There is no real Troubridge Cinema, but with the proper letters and editing I created one. Then I posted both versions, the one at the top meets my original scale, while the one on the right side was the original work I created prior to scaling/cropping. The animated "movies" were also created by me using a simple animated GIF application, some careful planning, and a fair bit of listening/writing to get those subtitles. Also, feel free to follow that link to watch "Night of the Living Dead" as a streamed video. It's perfectly legal as the movie has become public media (free to watch). I hope you continue to enjoy your stay in Dulston, but keep in mind that I also created most of the location wikipages for the surrounding suburbs too... so feel free to check them out as well and you may find a few other "interesting" locations. ;) --Mobius187 November 7 2007, 8:00 AM (EST)

Malton Rail

Hi. I've created a new page for the railway stations, under a company, named Malton Rail. But one very important thing is still missing: the story. Can you fill it in? (if you feel like it) Thanks for your creativity. :) -- goebi^{Lfs team} 13:41, 21 April 2007 (BST)

I'm always up for improving the UD Wiki. How long did you want the description to be? Did you want images (i.e. B&W old railroad, followed by newer ones)? If you do want photos did you want them at a particular size? My standard sizes are 450x290 for the main image (top) and 270x360 for in-text images. Also, is your plan to link to every railway station in every Malton suburb? If so you should be pleased to note that Rhodenbank, Dulston, Rolt Heights and Pescodside all have their railroad stations wikipages already created... by me. --Mobius187 April 21 2007, 8:56 AM (EST)

I've refreshed the Malton Rail page (but still under construction). I like your pages very much, with those pictures and descriptions. I've created the Malton Rail logo to put that on every Railway Station page (like police departments, fire stations, etc.), and a little description "These stations are remains of the extinct Malton Rail.". But seen your pages, i don't want to edit them. -- goebi^{Lfs team} 17:49, 21 April 2007 (BST)

I am currently working on a compromise. Feel free to check any of the Dulston railway stations to see what I mean. I think this is a mutually satisfactory solution. Of course I'm not a location description machine, so it may take me a bit to create unique descriptions for each railway station with the 4 suburbs I monitor. Of course any future railway station locations will include this in them. --Mobius187 April 22 2007, 9:54 AM (EST)

I like it. :) goebi^{Lfs team} 02:40, 23 April 2007 (BST)

Amazing! Nice work at Malton Rail page! Thank you. -- /// goebi^{TalkHelp/LFS/SR/NT/_{_MWP}} /// 13:48, 13 May 2007 (BST)

Thanks. I figured it could use some jazzing-up. The history is a bit thin, but I figured you needed just "something" there for now. I'll edit it some more later. I'm actually tempted to either a) break-up each of the 4 Malton railway areas in their own sub-pages, or b) just add-in "link back to top" for each section. I'm not sure which would be better at this stage. BTW, once I've added in a link to every railway station (whether its wikipage has been created or not) and suburb section, I'll organize the suburbs alphabetically within each "section" (i.e. Northeast Malton). Later I may actually go to the trouble to create the actual "Northwest Malton" and so on, wikipages so we can properly link each title to them. Of course I'm not doing all of this in one go, so feel free to step in at any time and make your own additions as it is your wikipage. --Mobius187 May 13 2007, 9:00 AM (EST)

Rolts - The Riddell Museum

Hey Mobius, thanks for adding the content to the pages(The Riddell Museum, Fanning Cinema, and Bromilow Library) I created a while back. The Museum has a collection of science exhibits, so my Scientist char uses it as a lab.(he also works the Hospitals and RP to the sw.. see my userpage) They're my first contributions to the wiki and kinda pet buildings.(of course I make no claim of ownership) Would you mind if I go back and touch some of it up? There are a few things in particular I'd like to do: move a little text to the top of the libraries page to fill the blank space, and reword some of the material. Thanks again for all your work, I greatly appreciate all your contributes.--Raystanwick 22:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I of course appreciate you asking me, but you have as much right to edit those wikipages as me. I have to admit I thought the descriptive text at the top was an interesting touch. In the past I've added the description provided in-game for certain buildings, but this was more than the usual 1-liners. So make whatever changes you like and I will also continue working on them too. Rest assured though, I do not delete content provided by other users, at most I edit, so you can rest assured the origins you placed for those buildings will stay "as is". The history for the library took on a "Cthulhu" turn in my last update, but I intend to limit that topic to the library only. Now I'm only in the initial stages of fixing-up Rolt Heights, but my past works include Dulston, Pescodside, and Rhodenbank (my last one, and still seeing some minor touches here and there). So by all means, have fun and add as much as you like to improve those locations. What you can expect to see from me are new images for the cinema and museum (450x290 standard). --Mobius187 March 24 2007, 7:09 PM (EST)

Hey! thanks for quick reply! I already have a pic for the cinema, if you don't mind. Check it out-

Cant' wait to see your pic for the Museum.(try to use a science center type structure if you would, please, since that was kind of the inspiration for that page) btw, I can't figure out how to make that link just a link instead of a picture, sorry. Thanks again!--Raystanwick 23:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I actually don't think there is a way to just point to an image via link in the wiki, then again I have been proven wrong before (on the matter of link colors). I'm fine with that image, per say, only that it's not the same format as I normally use (450x290). I hope you won't mind, but I intend to adjust it, as that way it will match the same dimensions as every other location image I've created (well except 2...but that's another story). --Mobius187 March 24 2007, 7:30 PM (EST)

cool. yeh, adjust the size to fit the standard. if your good with the photoshop stuff, add the name in somewhere. (I like the Cthulu graffiti on the library pic!) I have some other photos of Planetariums, Ominimax theatres, and stuff... I'll upload them later and link them on my talkpage. Thanks again!--Raystanwick 02:01, 25 March 2007 (BST)

Mobius, I initially mistook your 4/1/07 (Fool's Day) edits as pranks... you say this in the edit-note for the Library: "Moved image to top of page. Descriptions work better below images, as the text has a visual reference."

I assume this was intended for me and is what prompts me to write this post now. I didn't want to reply with a note in a counter-edit. I explained the following above and I thought we had an understanding - when this is done the whole top left of a page is BLANK. It looks UGLY. When someone first visits the page that is what they see. I know nothing about webdesign/whatever, but even I can see that that space is valuable and should be put to better use. I made the flavor texts just long enough specifically to complement the location block template on the right. If the pic fit into the top-left corner it would be different.(something to consider before settling on a standard pic size) ONCE AGAIN, let me state that I WILL adjust these pages so they look better- if you continue to remove my work I will seek official mediation. --Raystanwick 13:01, 3 April 2007 (BST)

Hey Raystanwick, let me begin by saying I didn't know you were taking this matter so seriously. You really want to bring a mod into this? Well I've asked one for his opinion, as I've worked with him in the past on updating entire suburbs. Before you think this is some kind of "heavy handed" approach by me let me state that I think there is no "who owns what" for these locations, and I think he will agree. In that regards, and in the best interests of keeping things civil, I am more than willing to let you switch my edits back to yours. No arguments from me. See? I admit I had intended to leave you a real message explaining why I had formatted the wikipage the way I had, but was distracted that weekend. Truthfully I cannot see the blank area you are referring to... what browser/resolution are you using, could that be the problem or am I misunderstanding the issue?

I already conceded that there is no ownership- I don't know why you mention this. and I don't want to revert your stuff- I just want you to stop doing it to mine. btw, TY for admitting that you intended to leave a message- if I had only known... BTW, I already said it may be the screen resolution... I said I'm using 8x6.(800x600) The PIC is placed BELOW the block template, with the text under that- leaving the whole top left half of the pages BLANK. The thing here is it's not my browser/resolution that's the problem... NOR is it your! It's that we're using different ones. AND that's a WHOLE NEW conversation there... does the wiki have a standard/suggested resolution? --Raystanwick 15:12, 3 April 2007 (BST)

Anywho, like I said, I hope we can work this out in a civilized manner rather than doing anything the other may regret. I for one regret causing you any annoyance as that was never my intention. My design for the locations is simply the same one I've used for every location wikipage in Dulston, Rhodenbank, Rolt Heights, and Pescodside. All of them. Of course if you want those 3 locations to be done your way, I would be greedy not to let you. After all you designed them originally. Anyway my goal is simple. I would like to work with you to find the best design. Mine is not the best, I would be a fool to think so, but it's an evolving design that will always seek improvement from what I learn myself and from others. Anyway, I'm at work right now and have meetings to attend to. I hope to speak with you on this matter further. --Mobius187 April 3 2007, 8:26 AM

It's not about "my way"... if all the pages have ugly blank spots at the top, why accept that? Why not make them look better? Like I said, maybe the pics fit in the top-left on your res... I think SCREEN RESOLUTION is the problem here...--Raystanwick 15:12, 3 April 2007 (BST)

I only have a 10 minute break and then I'm expected back at the meeting (a large one), so I'll make this quick. Would you please take a screenshot of the wikipage and post it for me? Also, use MS Paint to highlight the problem area. I want to investigate this further before I work on any other location wikipages, as the more locations I create the more it will be to go back and edit them all (currently that's a whopping 400 pages...). Let me know, I have to be getting back now. As I mentioned before I want to work with you to resolve this. I will not be making any further edits on those 3 locations until then. On a side note, I also wanted to possibly discuss a new image for the cinema, I had one on the weekend, but as you specifically provided the current one I didn't want to update it without discussing the matter first (consider that as proof that I really did want your input on aspects of design). --Mobius187 April 3 2007, 10:20 AM

Update - I finished my meeting and ran some tests. What browser are you using? I assume not IE, as IE is handling this differently on mine than it is on yours. Currently I use 1024x768 here at work, and an even higher resolution at home, so obviously the image size is not an issue for me. For a test I switched to 800x600 resolution, but as I expected IE "clips" the image behind the map template, rather than shunting it below the template due to lack of room (width). The only time I have ever seen something similar happen is when I use the "Right" or "Left" alignment properties of the Image tag. Hmmm. I will investigate and see whether I can find a property in the Image tag that will fix this problem on your browser. Obviously this problem is not just associated with your locations, but all 400 locations I have worked on and that's soemthing I need to address properly. I hate it when format gets screwed around by some unknown variable that I never know about. I will fix this or, if not, reduce the image sizes. If it comes to that 275x177 appears to fit. Urk, that's a far cry from 450x270. If it comes to that I may switch to a image that's taller than it is wider (360x175?). Anyway, first I'll investigate a solution. --Mobius187 April 3 2007, 12:33 PM

Update (Again) - I spotted your discussion on the library wikipage and addressed your concerns there. Feel free to check those out. --Mobius187 April 3 2007, 1:11 PM

Update (Again, Again) - I have tried the "None" alignment property for the image. While I doubt this will fix the problem, it is so far the only solid lead I have on a fix. All my efforts over the past hour to locate a solution on "auto-resizing" have only turned up dead ends. It appears the Wiki does not yet support such a feature, and even if it did I'm not sure that it could account for the template issue even if it did. I would still like to perform additional tests, but in order to do that I will need to know which browser you are using so I can install it and test it, as on IE I cannot determine if my actions have been successful. --Mobius187 April 3 2007, 2:19 PM

The differences in screen-res and browser are def causing the issue here. It's clear we both want the pages to look nice. I have posted a thorough reply in Talk:Bromilow Library; inc screen-caps of what I'm seeing with 800x600 in FireFox.--Raystanwick 19:13, 4 April 2007 (BST)

Grouped Location Pages

Hi Mobius, I like your work. Tireless and dedicated, you are. However, surely a grouped location page every now and then wouldn't hurt... all those wastelands in Rolt Heights for example... all the same, not likely to be expanded upon (unless someone makes on a revive point) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 11:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Boxy, this is a bit off-topic, but did you know that I created the Dead Animal thumbnail image that you still use today for the suburb listing? Just a fun fact. Also would ou care to validate claims that Dead Animals - Redux is sieging the Featherstone Library?

Now back to business. Hrmmm. As you've guessed I'm a strong "anti-merger" activist. To date I've only buckled on Street locations, as I created or finished most of the ones in the NE Corner to date. I will admit you have a solid case for Wastelands... and by extension Carparks. The key factor here being whether a location has the information and historical news to make it its own location. As you pointed out "revive points" automatically do that, although I would assume a historic battle could also create similar relevance... although to a limited degree. Really "Current Events" recorded for a location is the greatest factor in giving it its own location page. But I'm rambling and you did ask me a specific question. Sigh. Hrmmm. How about this, give me 1 month. If by April 15th I have not done anything good with wasteland or carpark location pages I will merge them into a single wikipage. But if in the meantime I do find a way to personalize them would you consider that a good enough reason to leave them as individual wikipages, or would you consider such efforts "frivolous" (i.e. adding additional images, historical descriptive comments) in light of more gameplay-oriented content? Let me know, as I'm hardly the boss of anything and I appreciate you coming to me first. --Mobius187 March 15 2007, 10:09 AM (EST)

Yeah, I did notice that it was you who made our thumbnail pic, a while ago. Thanks for that, that was way back in the old days, when the wiki was a big, scary place to visit ;)

On the locations stuff, I'm not trying to force you to merge them, or even expand upon them if you don't have a reason to. I just think that leaving them with minimum info on them, on a grouped page, and moving onto "more important" matters would be a better use of your valuable time and energy.

Realistically, people willing and able to create "up to code" locations pages with the consistancy that you do, are thin on the ground... I would just like to see you out there, creating building pages, rather than wasting time on multiple wasteland pages, when one (with redirects from the others) would do.

I know I'm a bit of a grouped location page fanatic... putting the bare minimum of content on them... but damn, there's a lot of "red links" out there to get through -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and BTW, DA/Redux is (mostly) off with the Mall Tour ATM... we will be back though, count on it ;) -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 15:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, now I understand. I agree that some locations hardly seem worth the time it take me to ceate them, but creating them satistifies my hunger for nice orderly location wikipages. When I first started working on location wikipages my goal was t create a seemless transit between locations, allowing users to literally travel across the suburb via the location map on each location wikipage. While merging locations does not detract from that some part of me always disliked the concept. As such, I was always willing to put in the extra effort it took to satisfy that need. That said, I do have location templates that I often use to speed things up, which in the case of wastelands is a simple cookie-cutter. In fact, the only real work I put into those location wikipages are their maps, which I would need to create for a merged wikipage, so as far as work effort it comes down to the same amount of time spent to be honest.

Building locations of course are my real interest, and over time I've developed likes and dislikes which have developed my style (or the "template" I use). For example at one time I evenly used 2 image scales for a location's image, 450x290 and 270x360. Later the second format fell out of favor with me and now I only use it for tower locations (for obvious reasons). Another style choice I made was using uniform designs for hospitals, fire stations, police departments, railway stations, and NecroTech buildings. Each uses the same building image, which I shaded B&W as an indicator of that fact, and the same headers/icons in their content. I felt that creating a uniform style among these locations promoted a greater sense of organization. The most recent change I'm considering is renaming "Building Status" to "Description". I mulled it over, and street revive points could hardly have their location description under "Building Status"... and now I'm thinking on conforming all the location pages to use the same header title. I did consider "Location History", but it seemed a bit wordy... what do you think?

As I mentioned above I've create two types of images for certain locations. Coloured unique image locations (i.e. buildings) and B&W cookie-cutter image locations (i.e. parks, NT buildings, wastelands, police stations, ect). But I should mention I do have a 3rd type of image, oddly enough, for junkyards. What I did was create a single location image, but for ach suburb (i.e. DulstonJunkyards). I've been considering that as an alternative for the B&W images, as maybe some users don't like the idea of every NT building sharing the same image. In that way only the NT buildings in one suburb would use a specific image. Not that it's important, but it's something I've been pondering.

So for now, I'll keep working on Rolt Heights. My plan of "attack" is the same as with the last 3 suburbs I worked on, namely:

Create Streets merged wikipage
Update any lame/unfinished existing location wikipages
Create common/cookie-cutter locations wikipages (i.e. parks)
Create unique locations wikipages
Add unique images for unique locations
Add descriptions for unique locations
Edit existing location wikipages (conform style)
Add secondary images to unique locations
Add "extra" descriptions for common/cookie-cutter locations
Confirm/update groups in the suburb

And there you have it. My update process, more or less. --Mobius187 March 15 2007, 12:08 PM (EST)

Sorry I was so long getting back to you, it's a busy time of year here. It all sounds great, as long as you're happy doing what you're doing. I tend to leave the streets to last... there are just soooo many... I'm slowly working on the Shore Hills ones at the moment. So hard to get motivated :) Using the same (B&W) image for each TRP sounds like a good idea (as long as others know are free to change it to a unique one later I guess). Rather than "Building Status", I use "Current Status" which seems to cover any location, as well as "Description" and "History" -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 10:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

No prob. Streets do take the longest and usually I blow an entire night to create one for a suburb (2-4 hours). Obviously it's the number of streets, mapping each of them, and how many streets are along the border that determines how long it takes. As for the B&W photos, I'm hoping to create a theme people appreciate, but obviously there's no way I would oppose someone posting an alternative image (although I may be inclined to format it as 450x290). I recently dropped "Building Status" and replaced them all with "Description". I also added that header for all empty blocks, not just Revive Points. On a funny note, I discovered I had treated Junkyards in Dulston as "empty blocks"... no building status, no barricade policy. Ha-ha! I fixed that. These days I've slowed my pace. I'm currently going back over older location in Rhodenbank and writing up longer location descriptions. When I get back up to steam I'll head back into Rolt Heights and tackle some more locations there. --Mobius187 March 22 2007, 7:57 AM (EST)

Northeast Malton

Heya, Mobius. I know that you're what I consider the main editor of the NE pages, so I was wondering if you could give me a hand on the page I created - Northeast Malton - or if you think it should even be there at all. I based it off of the page for Central Malton, so I decided to create one for the NE - your help would be loved. I put this in suburb locations, as technically, this is a group of suburbs in one. --Nomader ^T•RCDC 04:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well I do like to consider myself the "King of the NE Corner" ;). Anywho, I visited your most recent effort and have added updates where I saw fit, but overall it was already solid work. I have not compared it against Central Malton, but for now I am concentrating my efforts in adding locations to Rolt Heights. I was actually considering creating something like this, but strictly to explain the definition of the coined term "NE Corner" (i.e. Northeast Malton), but your wikipage serves that purpose (I just added the term in there for reference). One extra you may want to consider, unless you feel it differentiates us too much from Central Malton, is adding the suburb listing thumbnail images beside each group's explanation, similar to the way it's done on the suburb pages already. Let me know if you need anymore help. --Mobius187 March 15 2007, 9:59 AM (EST)

Heh, I noticed that every single summary of the groups have been totally re-vamped - I thank you for that, as for most of them, I just know they exist. I added in the thumbnail images, and even though it streches out the suburbs in the center of the graphic, I think it looks just fine in the end. The only problem I have with the page is the fact that the events section has only two things that I threw in there at about midnight. Other than that, until more groups pop up, I'm finished with the page - thanks for the help! --Nomader ^T•RCDC 19:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Though I think we shouldn't leave out anything in Northeast Malton history, should we slim down the list on the right so the map of Northeast Malton isn't so streched out? We could then move the more detailed information about Northeast Malton below, so it looks more 'correct.' Right now, I have to scroll down nearly a page length to get to see the Southern suburbs... but, it's your call: I hate to delete fine work. --Nomader ^T•RCDC 18:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Those were my thoughts exactly, so I started deleting news items, and then cutting out details. What you saw was after all that was done. I think we only have two options, as I noted in my comment (i.e. History tab) either rework the table to support a 2nd row or create a NE Corner news archive. As it stands the news I posted was mostly from Dulston, although I tried to keep to only the major news items (no local news). Still, if you factor in the other suburbs that a lot of news still unreported. Any idea what news items we should list? As it stands you could thin it down to only horde attack news, but that's about it. Currently I listed horde news and group war news, two big ticket items. --Mobius187 March 18 2007, 6:28 PM (EST)

You seem to have most of the major news items down though I can still list a few, like the Pwotters-Drunken Dead seige for twenty days on Hindmarsh Row Police Department (the only time in the Northeast something held for more than two weeks - honestly, most seiges around here are jokes). But, really, Northeast Malton is a boring place. I'd suggest we put the major Treweeke seiges and a few other interesting tidbits in the event listing, and then throw any other somewhat interesting news-pieces from the nine suburbs in chronological order on the archive page (no "The suburb is now safe" sort of thing - if the RRF or the Big Bash attacked, we can throw those in, or fights against local zombie groups). I'd say we should even cut group war news (saving DORIS) from the event listing on the main page, and move them to the archive. And though another row sounds tempting, it'd crunch up things a bit too much, and wouldn't really look right - I think an archive page is the way to go. On a seperate note, should it be a sub-page, or its own seperate page? --Nomader ^T•RCDC 02:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I actually tried to alter the table, but as it's a template table... it took offense to my efforts. As such, I stopped trying and the only alternative, if we want to keep those news items would be to move older ones to an archive. If you haven't done so already I'll create one and add a link to it, styled after suburb archives. As the news there is not "Current News" (like for daily suburb news) I'll leave out the usual spiel about posting news to the archive and just leave the link at the bottom. The archive would be on a sub-page so it doesn't get lost. I mean Treweeke Turnpike... sheesh. I found that one after hunting around for public opinion on the mall. Better to make sure the pages are grouped together so anyone can find them even without a link. --Mobius187 March 19 2007, 8:06 AM (EST)

Suburb NecroNET Reports

Jupp, as someone mentioned above, I'd also vote for unmerging those Necrotech-Building-pages. Merging's fine for streets and other "useless" things, but Necrotech...? The other side is however, that I like the idea of a real NecroNET, with all the buildings connected in some way. If their buildings' pages were merged in each suburb, this impression would be stronger, somehow. Whatever. Have fun. And contiue, as long as you can. I'm glad about every non-placeholder-page and even though I don't change or add things there very often, I at least love reading them.--ρsych°Lychεε^ELT 08:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Xoid, boxy, and I discussed the matter of the merged NecroTech Dulston wikipage and you can now see how it was resolved. The wikipage now served as a hub redirect. Not sure how useful it will be, but now potentially a user can just link to it instead of listing each NecroTech building in Dulston (Xoid's idea). As a point of interest to your NecroNet idea there once was something like it, only the NecroNet reports were not merged. Back in early 2006 I used to issue NecroNet reports from The Waish Building on a daily basis. If they had no power (or generator, damn GKers) I would try again in the evening. Unfortunately I was only one man so all the other NT buildings in Dulston/Pescodside didn't really get updated that often (past the one I tried to issue at each location to start the ball rolling). In later months, after I had finally returned to the UD Wiki, I learned that my monthly archive wikipage (i.e. NecroNet Archive) was gone, deleted because it turns out all those JPGs were freakin' huge (KBs) when stacked on one wikipage. Ah well. Still if they same thing could be started again, but with a smaller file format (i.e. maybe even Photoshop's "for web" JPG format) then it's still possible we could one day do something just as you suggested. --Mobius187 February 5 2007, 8:04 AM (EST)

The Perryn Building

I hope you don't mind that I made a slight change to your Perryn Building page, as I needed to "retconn" a little to make it fit with my Perryn family page. --Specialist290 01:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes, the Perryn Building. I checked your update out and I see you only made a small change specifically to the person the building was named after, which as far as I'm concerned is perfectly acceptable in the grand scheme of things. In truth it's better, because now it links up to more facts elsewhere in the Urban Dead Wiki rather than just being one isolated reference for one location. Now you you had re-written the entire wikipage after the effort I put into it, that would be something else, but that's obviously not the case here. So I have no problem with it. --Mobius187 January 30 2007, 8:00 AM (EST)

Motivation

Ah, and I imagine Dulston is your home suburb? Or did you just pick somewhere and go "Hey, I don't want anymore empty location pages there!"? And I agree that grouping streets is a good idea...but doing that to other buildings is really annoying (you should see what the DHPD did to Dunell Hills's PD stubs...ick). Yeah, maybe I'll slap some random histories on Dulston's locations. I put some stuff on Howarth Boulevard Railway Station, you should check it out and see if I'm worthy of messing with Dulston's locations! Anyway, I was just curious of your motives or whatever. --Lachryma 06:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Dulston is the home suburb for my NT scientist, Caleb Usher, so I had a vested interest in updating its wiki pages. I agree with you about not grouping important locations, like buildings. They really should strictly limit it to streets, wastelands, carparks, junkyards, and warehouses. Parks and monuments, while not buildings, can still have some character to them because they're uniquely named, like streets, but far more uncommon than streets (i.e. in Dulston there are 30 streets, 0 monuments, 2 parks). I have mixed feelings on cemeteries because they're not uniquely named, but they are uncommon. If I had to choose... maybe group them too. I also have a character in Dunnel Hills who was a member of the DHPD, and I was surprised when they grouped the police stations together. You would think that the DHPD, by definition of the group, would have tons of content for their police station pages. Ah well. Anyway, I'll check your work out, but I'm not here to judge your work or anyone else's. It's really not my place to do so. I may at times come in and reword something you or someone else wrote, as that's one of my hobbies and I've even done it to my own work from time to time, but I would certainly never delete content. Still, you're free to update any Dulston location, especially if it's a blank canvas. Good luck. --Mobius187 10:08 AM, 24 December 2006

I was just joking about being judged, I understand where you're coming from. Yeah, that Dunnel Hills stuff is rather confusing, but it's their PDs, so oh well. Cemeteries would be okay grouped, but it really depends on the suburb and how the locals set up revive points. I probably won't add anything to Dulston stuff, as I have no vested interest there or any knowledge of local history, but I'll probably add some content to various other locations I've been to, if I feel like it. And I can't abide typos or bad grammar so I'm always fixing that kind of stuff, mine or anyone else's. Thanks for taking some time to answer my questions and good luck with your location quest! --Lachryma 21:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Location, Location!

Wow, you really like adding stuff to location pages. Any reason why? I'm just curious...and stuff.--Lachryma 06:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Well a while back I had a dream... a dream of a Dulston with every location detailed and accurately mapped. Right now a lot of the locations are lacking in any real information and most do not use exact pointers to Dulston Streets. While I'm not always in favor of group locations (i.e. all streets, all hospitals) for a suburb I try to undo other people's work. Who knows it may be a good trend, after all grouping streets isn't such a bad idea since they are for the most part useless to add real details to them. So anywho, I'll update all of Dulston and then go back to add more details/histories to certain unknown locations. Feel to do so as well. --Mobius187 1:10 AM, 24 December 2006

On Wiki Updates

Hi, Great job with the location pages. A few things about 'em location pages though. Firstly, they need to have the Category:Locations in addition to a category of the suburb that it is in, and a category of the building (check Category:Locations for a list of building categories). Secondly, there is a template for the 9-block maps - please use those. The template can be found in the Stub box at the bottom of most of the pages you have created and you can check out how to use them by heading to any Category:Yagoton pages. For those 9-block maps, I have a list of hex colours on my User page - please use those so that each page has a consistant colour for the same type of building. Also, each of those buildings in the 9-block maps should be linked, even if the pages don't exist yet. Some of the pages that you have created include The Inman Building, The Whitlock Building, St. Odile's Church, Hammerton Road and Sirl Plaza. --Nov 11:31, 7 Feb 2006 (GMT)

EDIT: Also, please link generic buildings and locations - carparks, factories, warehouses, to their coordinates as is the common practice on the wiki. Thanks. --Nov 23:42, 7 Feb 2006 (GMT)

I realized as much just today while updating to use the standard 9x9 block map and noticed that with every location on the map now linked, whether there was a profile for it or not, generic locations like "a warehouse" would never have their own unique description as every suburb had them. I have since linked useful buildings to the appropriate "Building Type" definition and places like "wasteland" to its open space definition. Feel free to check. --Mobius187 18:46, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)

EDIT: Ah, I just realized what you meant. Still, I never liked seeing the red link, so that's why I thought it would be better to just point to the "Building Type" description. Still, if co-ordinates is what everyone is doing I'm fine with it. --Mobius187 19:08, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)

I think you are doing great so far. The coordinates are there to link to the specific pages so that if someone clicked on the red link, they can start editing that page, which makes things easy for them. --Nov 09:37, 8 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Weston Crescent

Alright, the zombies got me in Troubridge but I made the recon nonetheless. Weston is up and intact, though no power, and with cades at EHB (last checked).

If it's not too much trouble, could you direct someone up that way? I'm stuck outside the place and I'd rather not go through the ordeal of getting killed six times while I work my way to Duport.--Boris 00:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Thanks again for the report and, if you haven't already, make sure you take credit for the status update on that location. --Mobius187 13:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Can do. One last update; don't send anyone else. I've made it to Duport (barely, and despite being headshot by some idiot) and should be back in the running by tomorrow. --Boris 17:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Good luck. :) --Mobius187 17:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Compliments

Everyone deserves a pat on the back now and then, I'm no exception. If you feel I deserve some kind of compliment from my recent efforts to improve the UD Wiki you're free to post your comments here. As stated before, all my work is towards the single goal of creating a more active Wiki, one where enough current information exists that UD players can visit here and make informed decisions based on what they read (i.e. zombie horde locations, threat levels, active groups, ect). Anywho, compliments are always appreciated.

Thanks for the help

I'm still kind of a newbie at the wiki stuff, so I have a few things left to learn. Thank you, however, for the corrections in formatting and organizations you did to the Heddington Walk Railway page. I can see now how it should have been done, but I obviously didn't do it right the first time. :P Thanks for keeping the UD Wiki looking spiffy and polished, and cleaning up after newbies like me!. --Geoffrey Thames 04:02, 1 April 2008 (BST)

Old School O000h-ra

Damn son... I just happened upon all your work with "Alice" You frakin rock man. Conndraka^{mod TDHPD CFT} 04:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

NW badges check - thanx

The Neagle one in barville and Grasomething in Paynterton are ruined - that caused my hiatus on them at the moment. However i have a gen with fuel to report out of paynterton's one right now. As for lazenbury, i'm not sure how i missed that. Thanks for the research! --~~~~ [talk ] 09:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually i've just done both neagle and gracewood, earning myself these 2 badges. Those zombies however would be surprised why some odd guy sets up a running renerator in their ruined building and doesn't use it to combat-revive them --~~~~ [talk ] 10:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. I found is very odd that, with all your scans, you had no ribbon medals yet. Very odd. Next time you could confuse zombies further by saying something like, "You gentlemen over there, stop being undead and man this generator! Do I have to do everything myself?!?". Or somesuch. ;) --Mobius187 14:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from KMA!

Looking at the page history I see that you're to thank for our awesome new layout and colourscheme! Just like to say thanks for it all!--Seventythree^Talk 08:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I was asked a few months back to help you guys out when your group's membership within the Dulston Alliance was reconfirmed, but I was a bit busy back then. Now that I found I had a bit more time I wanted to try my hand at improving it. Technically I'm not done yet, as I wanted to confirm whether KMA had ranks (for members) and whether you had a treaty/alliance system in place. Of course those are details I'm not in a position just to "add on" for your group, but rather ones that you guys need to tell me you want. --Mobius187 11:05 AM, 12 November 2007 (EST)

I've just had word back from King Murek. He want's to congratulate you on your hard work, especially on the Winter war recruitment poster. To answer your two questions, there's no real rank system in place apart from King Murek being in charge. Members may come forward for knighthoods and other such titles, but so far only Agent 019 has been confirmed as a commander of the second headquaters. As for alliances, well we are allied to FotFL, since before our Dulston Alliance membership, so they're basically brothers in arms. Other than that, well, we tend to support DA Alliances and enemies lists. At some point we plan to conduct a recruitment drive at which time we may well start seeking out alliances with other pro-survivor groups. Thanks once again for your dedicated work! --Seventythree^Talk 21:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

No need to thank me, but thanks are always appreciated. Consider this as one of the perks of being with the Dulston Alliance, that and it's my hobby to improve the look/feel of the UD Wiki. Thanks for the information about the ranking system. Is it alright if the current ranks I listed (Fearless Leader/Commander/Soldier) remain, or would you prefer other ones be used? Also, if King Murek does grant titles to his troops perhaps you would like me to create a new column for "Titles". There you could list titles and awards that have been handed out. On the matter of gaining alliances, and I hope you'll forgive my boldness here, I approached Lemonhead7t7, leader of the PDA, and discussed the matter with him so as to feel-out his thoughts on the matter. In turn he informed me that he would be more than willing to strike an alliance with KMA, and all you would need to do is discuss the matter via AIM (if possible, and if so refer to their member list as their AIM IDs are listed there) or via PM/E-mail (they are not really into wiki-posting). I'm hoping that I can aid in strengthening ties between the various Pescodside survivor groups. If though you would prefer I not meddle in your groups' affairs please let me know and I will of course desist from any further action of this nature. I'm just used to being helpful... sometimes overtly so. If you do wish me to continue assisting with diplomatic relations I was hoping you would take a look at these "treaties/alliances" (i.e. Non-Aggression Pact) and let me know if you would like a similar ranking system for your allies. Oh, and I'll add some more Finland WW2 army images to the wikipage so as to help spice it up. --Mobius187 5:22 PM, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Thank you!

Thank you for organizing the content on the Molebank page. I lack the experience thus far to do more than add a comment or two, so I was unable to do it myself. I appreciate that you organized the current events as you did. It needed straightening up! Thanks, again! --Lois Millard 22:49, 13 September 2007 (BST)

Ah yes, you are no doubt referring to my plan to slowly convert every Suburb wikipage until they all conform to my ultimate vision. This is only phase one, which is taking a while because there are so many goddamn suburbs. Ahem. But sooner or later phase one will reach fruition and then I will convert every suburb wikipage to use the same header for the news section! Yes, no more "Current Events"/"Bulletin Board"/"News"/ect... it will be glorious conformity under one header! But now you know too much... (*squints eyes menacingly*) --Mobius187 7:15 PM, 13 September 2007 (EST)

Moar Compliments

I like your style. Stylish.--Thari^{TжFedCom is BFI!} 09:36, 30 August 2007 (BST)

Compliments to Caleb the Legend

Thanks for everything that you have done and are doing for the B.A.R! It must take a lot of work to keep up with us lazy bums, and you should know that it is definatley appreciated! Also personal thanks from Clint Harbringer/Samtheman for making Urban Dead WAY more fun! You know that whilst you dont really see written thanks (especially on the wiki) from us, you will always have a special place in the Burchell Arms Regulars! --SamtheMan 14:45, 1 August 2007 (BST)

Not enough people are praisin' the Usher, so it's good to hear the sound of someone feeding the roaring furnace that is my awesome ego. ;) --Mobius187 August 1 2007, 10:43 AM (EST)

Hey, Mister!

Thanks for adding that Ghetto Cow shield pic thingy to the Shearbank page, I know you had to actually put in some thought and time to do that...and now the Shearbank page looks better! Thank you!--Lachryma^☭ 18:59, 23 July 2007 (BST)

Well my goal is to improve the UD Wiki "at large". Given enough time I'll have everything organized. It will be glorious! Also, time will tell if my improvements are to everyones liking or if adjustments will be required. --Mobius187 August 1 2007, 10:40 AM (EST)

In Memory of your work

just a little something for the work you've done up here in the NE, a quiet little memorial at the edge of the world:

A meager offering, and probably not long for this world, but deserved none the less. --Goofy Mccoy 02:03, 19 July 2007 (BST)

Thanks! It's good to know my efforts were appreciated by the masses. Or possibly just you... I suppose I won't know unless EVERY player posts a compliment here. Tell them and spread the word! You know, I would have spread more outrageous propaganda about Caleb myself if not for all the work I did which kept me from accomplishing said egomaniacal boasting. Curse my awesome work ethic! ;) --Mobius187 7:47 AM, 19 July 2007 (EST)

Award

Award from

for the stylish page

/// LFS /// goebi ///

like it, real propaganda style ;) -- /// goebi^{TalkHelp/LFS/SR/NT/_{_MWP}} /// 22:48, 15 June 2007 (BST)

On Revive Point Reporting

Thanks for the heads up on my scan pages. I'm engaging in some extensive training over the next few weeks. As such, report frequency might be somewhat diminished. Once I return though, look forward to an even broader reporting area from suburbs outside Pescodside. Keep up the great work Caleb. The NE Corner is lucky to have you. -- Ottari June 3 2007, 4:30 PM EST.

Thanks for the "thumbs up", I'll keep updating the Duport Avenue section -- Rothman Dex June 3 2007, 00:56 (CEST]

Thank you

Thank you for the welcome to the Dulston Alliance. Dante's Guard is a quiet bunch of people, but we keep our corner of Pescodside clean.

Do you have any recommendations what sort of skills I should teach myself next? I think I've got a handle on this axe thing now, I seem to hurt 'em about every other swing, and that's pretty good, but I don't know what to teach myself next. I figured out how to leap from building to building quick enough that the zeds don't spot me, and I guess that can come in handy, and I've read up on barricading buildings, but I'm not quite sure where I should go next. Any pointers? --DanielZklein 00:00, 30 May 2007 (BST)

The Fire Axe is good starter weapon early on and a great back-up weapon once you've maxed-out your survivor skills. Free Running is also a useful skill, especially in this area as many buildings are over-barricaded and most safehouses (HQs) are always EH barricaded for safety reasons. After barricading the only real options surround what you want to accomplish. Since you have free running I would suggest picking up the shopping skills. Once you have both then the firearm skills will pay-off better as Treweeke Mall is the best place to find supplies. If you are hurting for XP and zombie killing is not getting you enough I would suggest searching hospitals for FAKs and healing people. You don't need the First Aid skill for it, since when you are healing for XP you want to use more of them. Later on the First Aid skill is important to staying alive and you should always keep 1 FAK on you at all times in case you're infected. I also suggest finding a flak vest early on, as you never know when a PKer is going to try and kill you, which then goes without saying that Body Building helps keep you alive longer. I hope that advice helps. --Mobius187 May 30 2007, 6:10 PM (EST)

Red Rum and the PKA in Rolt Heights

Cheers for the tag- I was wondering who to credit it to. It's really quite something. Also, thanks for the heads up about the BAR Deadbeat list, it makes for an interesting read- not to mention helping to know where my bunch are! I have a small quibble with the list itself, but I'll obviously take this up with the BAR itself.

Anyways, it seems like you're a massive contributor to this wiki and the general atmosphere of this game- my personal thanks for adding yet another level of interest. --Karloth Vois ^RR 03:44, 18 April 2007 (BST)

OctoLegion

Well, firstly thanks for the information and your revised OctoLegion logo. We are quite attached to our current mascot so won't be changing until we have no other choice. Hope to see more of you DvB types in Ruddlebank.--Nuabreed 18:28, 10 April 2007 (BST)

Oooh

Hey, thanks for your work on the Rolt Heights page. It was really a treat to check up on the news and to see a nice little blurb on me and my doings (and to an extent, my group). It's always nice when someone acknowledges your work in a calm and neutral manner, rather than calling you a spineless scum of the Earth (us PKers tend to get that a lot, it seems). Hey, best of luck to you in the coming siege eh? Torec _T-CC/CS 14:27, 7 April 2007 (BST)

No problem. While I never cared much for PKers the suburb wikipages are neutral grounds where only factual news is reported. At the same time, whenever someone posts a news item and I choose to edit that news it's usually a matter of determining what they meant, what really happened, and removing anything that might be non-neutral. As such, I try to stick to the facts. By any chance is your recent foray into Rolt Heights part of The PKer Alliance efforts in that suburb? You don't need to answer that, but if you are and have any insight into this event I would ask that you consider including news commentary from your side, based on what you see fit to share with the public. As you can guess, since I'm anti-PKer I can hardly do so myself without gathering my information in a way that might be deemed "spying". Also I would ask, if you do PK in Rolt Heights be sure to confirm whomever you kill. If they are anyone of note (i.e. leaders of groups), please visit that location's wikipage and be sure to add the event to its history. The same would go for if you commit multiple PKs at the same location or so on. Obviously if everyone posted every kill location wikipages would be overrun, so I try to only include "items of interest". Not enough historical content is being noted down for locations, due in part to the fact that I only recently finished creating most of Rolt Heights' location wikipages. Most of what news I have found and recorded (as old news) is about "zombies overrun" or "survivors retake". Hardly any PKer content at all. Not that I promote PKing, I just figure if you're going to do it anyway I might as well ask. --Mobius187 April 7 2007, 11:11 AM (EST)

Hmm, PKer news pieces are fairly rare... Mostly because I think that as PKers we feel that it's not... honourable? to brag. The bigger pride comes when someone else acknowledges your efforts. Putting that matter aside, I am in fact working with the PKA partially as a coordinator of this event. You see, April 4th-10th marks the date of a festival dedicated to my group's namesake, Cybele. I thought it only appropriate that my group do something over this timeframe, and it was suggested that we team up with the PKA to bring a plan into motion that they had been cooking up for a while. Rolt Heights is actually fairly unlucky, as our original target was Edgecombe... But then it got overrun right before we could start. Basically, the PKA in general should be sticking around that area for a while, a fact we take no caution in stating.
As for your suggestion about editing group's news pages, or suburb pages in recognition of kills... I feel that that might be construed as a little too much ego petting. On top of that, not only would it make the local groups mad at us more than they usually are, it would help to give away our location, or patterns of attack, which could be used against us. If a group wants to write a little something about me (which only a few have, and that's just to put me on lists), then I feel as if I've done something special. The mindset of a killer is a little different from that of a regular player... And like regular players, they vary a lot. For example, I hate greifing, and will normally only kill someone once, unless they threaten me or attract my attention in a very negative way. There are some groups out there, some in the PKA for instance, who specifically target certain groups. It's a style of play, like any other, though it has its quirks in certain areas. My, I've babbled just a bit... I'm off to go do more dastardly stuff now... Like... study for finals... *blinks* Torec _T-CC/CS 17:23, 7 April 2007 (BST)

Ah, that's bad luck for Rolt Heights then. Pity. Actually things had become fairly quiet around that suburb, so much so, that The Burchell Arms Regulars had launched an expeditionary force to "barricade/power pubs across Malton, for the glory of the B.A.R". I had to tell them that odds were very low that the attack had been specifically planned for after that force had departed. This was because the B.A.R was not the target of the attack, but rather the suburb. I happen to know some of the details of the attack, but I try not to speculate on them. If you like I can of course post a news item on April 12th to the effect of: Today the Festival of Cybele, "Megalesian", is being celebrated by her devoted followers.... Let me know, that is, if you feel uncomfortable with posting the news yourself due to it being PKer news. After this festival passes does your group intend to move on and leave the PKA to its own devices in Rolt Heights? You do not need to answer that question of course. As for the other news items for location wikipages, yes, it can come across as boasting. But I like to consider it all in the wording. It's for this reason why I try to avoid recording common events and instead try to contribute only noteworthy ones. A massacre at a specific location is noteworthy, as people will be able to look back and see what happened on that day. At least that's what I feel when I see that happen for survivor/zombie news. It's all in the wording of course. If it comes off as smug, like often is the case with some PKer groups *cough*DORIS*cough*, then yeah, people will get offended. But if it's reported in a neutral tone, and maybe with a nod to the other side it goes over better. No one likes to read just about the other side's victories after all. Of course again, it's your call and as of now I will pursue the question no further. I will say this though, my sore spot for PKers has to do with my character, Caleb, as the only times he has ever died in UD was from PKers. Odd, zombies never managed to kill him. But mall PKers did three times. Of course I don't hold a grudge and never considered hunting any of them down. Let bygones be bygones I say. :) --Mobius187 April 7 2007, 11:48 PM (EST)

Meh, I figure I can edit in the Megalesia news. It's a week long event, so technically we're going to be celebrating it for another few days, on top of the fact that we've been celebrating for the past few days as well. And as for afterwards... I'll leave that up to your imagination ;) /me taps her chin. I don't think I have much else to add... It's pretty much business as usual, so it's not something too special for us. Even the reaction of the B.A.R. isn't something unusual or unexpected. I have to say though, it's a lot more fun when you have an active resistance force rather than a passive one. Torec _T-CC/CS 15:37, 8 April 2007 (BST)

Shiny!

I just wanted to say: thanks a lot for adapting our ELT wiki pages to the Dulston Alliance design! What do you think about adding something like "These pages were improved by..." with a direct link to your user page? Just put it somewhere you think it will get noticed. See you, --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 20:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Update: If you'd like to have another cool template, find one you've truly earned here. --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 17:52, 28 March 2007 (BST)

How could I possibly turn down such an honor? Done and done. I'm not a template junkie, like some users, but that's because when it comes to templates I prefer "quality" over "quantity". ;) --Mobius187 March 28 2007, 1:08 PM (EST)

Thank You!

Thanks for helping out with the KFTW page! The artwork is awesome!--TheLurker7 04:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Well I can't take all the credit. I did a search for radio broadcasts, found a suitable image, then I repainted it in Photoshop. I figured it worked for the broadcasting theme used by your group. I then created a smaller version for the suburb listing. Have fun with your group in Dulston. --Mobius187 March 21 2007, 8:12 AM (EST)

Thanks

I just wanted to thank you for the work you've done on the gang's page. Thanks a bunch. Anachronos 03:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

From the Alliance: Thanks

I am Cheeser, a member of Dead vs Blue, a Dulston Alliance group member in Dulston. I want to say thank you for all of your hard work on all of the northeast corner suburb pages and its group member pages. I am amazed at all that you have done, especially the Dulston Alliance page. The logo is fantastic, and the new colors with the sub pages works wonderfully. Thank you very much. Your work is greatly appreciated. -- Cheeser, ^DvB|DA 04:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Well I won't lie, it was a lot of work, but I always enjoy the pay-off which is that everyone enjoys the UD Wiki, and thus UD, more. I hope that in the future other member groups associated with the NE Corner suburbs or the Alliance (in particular) will allow me to update their group pages so we can create a real sense of community. On a side note, I would like to tip my hat to Newgrounds for inspiring me with the idea behind my current group wikipage updates. --Mobius187 February 14 2007, 9:02 AM (EST)

Very nice job on the Dulston Alliance page. Thanks for the slight tweak to our Friends of the Featherstone Library page. As you know we've been a big supporter of yours in Pescodside and have always done our best to be of service to the greater Duslton area. I wouldn't mind at all if you had a go at our wiki page. Just warn me before you change it! --Shotgun Ed 18:36, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Well let me know if you want me to and I'll see what I can do for the Friends of the Featherstone Library. I posted an offer to do just that on the FotFL discussion page, but I take it not many member check there these days. In case you're checking here I figured I would mention it again. To date I'ce created group wikipages for: Dead vs Blue, Dead vs Blue: S.W.E.E.P.Z., Dulston Alliance, Dulston Defense Death Squad, Palytoxin Gang, and Rhodenbank Civil Defense Corps. Not a bad collection so far. --Mobius187 February 20 2007, 6:21 PM (EST)

Yay

So this is where most of the Dulston plots come together, inofficially somehow. I have noticed the noted NT-Scientist Caleb Usher for several times and was kind of curious. Also crappy grammar mistakes in some of my updates were corrected by you, silently. I like that. But the real work are your location descriptions, combined with photos, links, ... flavour everywhere. I love it. Came to Dulston as a tourist and this suburb's detailed wiki-pages were one of the main reasons for staying here and starting a group. Thanks, man; great work. -- ρsych°Lychεε^ELT 01:38, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments. I admit the Dulston wikipages have seen a lot of changes since when I first started playing Urban Dead. When I first arrived there wasn't that much content and I sort of disparaged the lack of overall information about the suburb. In the months that followed I decided to start adding content myself and new wikipages for locations so that newcomers to the suburb would have a much better idea of what was going on. Of course I realized that getting solid information (i.e. "Current Events") for every page was impossible, since it would involve more AP then any one player has, not to mention what you miss when you leave to visit another location. As such, I'm hoping that by giving players more detailed wikipages I'm promoting an atmosphere where they will willingly visit the Wiki and make their own updates. Nothing discourages you more than trying to add some news and finding that not even the wikipage for that location exists... and let me tell you after spending 5 hours creating Pescodside Streets I feel for the guy who created 40% of Dulston Streets before stopping (I finished it for him after I returned from my hiatus away from UD).

I've found that the UD Wiki is a great way to add more flavor to the overall gameplay, especially for boring locations, but also by adding historical content so players can get a feeling for what they can expect from a suburb (i.e. zombie activity, PKers, groups to join, ect). I would have to say my fondest desire was to create a seamless "travel" experience for players visiting the Dulston wikipages, in that you could pick any location and from there navigate throughout the suburb without needing to search or return to the suburb wikipage. Missing wikipages ruin that experience. In case you're wondering I've also been working on Pescodside as well, slowly creating its wikipages and editing content.

On your remarks about edits I've made, yes, I do edit other users posts mostly in the spelling or grammatical correction capacity. Other times I've been known to reword sentences. Of course the same goes for my own work as sometimes in my rush to post I'll skip spell-checking or re-reading... a fatal mistake that has led to an embarrising series of (m) Edits for certain wikipages. Also I see no point in rubbing other people's mistakes in their faces as it doesn't serve any purpose. No one intentionally makes spelling or grammar errors. I know I sure don't, and yet there they are from time to time. Well I could go on forever, but the more time I spend writing here is less time spent updating the UD Wiki. As to what you can expect from me in the days to come, well, I intend to keep updating Dulston of course, as some locations only have placeholder descriptions (what I consider the minimum, i.e. "Blank is a tower in the suburb of Dulston"), so I'll need to include more historical content and post-zombie chaos facts. Also I'll keep updating Pescodside and lastly I'm checking with a Mod (Xoid) on whether or not merged wikipages in Dulston/Pescodside should be unmerged (i.e. NecroTech Dulston) as those pages have reasonable content, and in my opinion, shouldn't be merged. Anywho, good luck and I hope you enjoy your stay in Dulston. --Mobius187 February 2 2007, 9:00 AM (EST)

Wow, thanks.

I'd like to thank you for adding this to the Dulston page. It's nice to know that we're being noticed, and any way that people can help us out is greatly appreciated. Thank you. --Joe O'Wood TALK CONTRIBS UD 01:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

No prob, I like helping out when it comes to the wiki. My personal goal is to keep Dulston's wiki pages updated and I've been adding content throughout most of the suburb's pages in terms of "historical" significance associated with buildings that have no in-game content as of yet. Another facet I'm interested in is making sure that the group listing is current and that new groups get the publicity they deserve when they appear. That way it's easier to track the chronology of events in the suburb and how old certain groups are when compared to the suburb's history. --Mobius187 5:25 PM, 3 January 2007

Greetings from the MFD

Hi there. Fire Marshall Griff of NE-3 (Rhodenbank, Dulston, Rolt Heights, Pescodside and Dunningwood) finally getting back to you.

Firstly, I must commend you on your work. Your efforts in maintaining communication in Dulston are excellent and are appreciated.

We have a new Captain in Dulston; Agent Heroic. We also have Lt. femlafrog, currently assigned to Stembridge Crescent Fire Station. --Grifflik 20:08, 22 April 2006 (BST)

Good Work

I truly enjoy all the work you've done, you rock man :P Hope Caleb Usher can visit Judgewood once Shadowslasher Incorporated has established itself. Seriously, you rock. --Agent 24601 3:04, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the compliment. I started with buildings in Pescodside and now I'm working on major buildings in Dulston, as those two surburbs are where I have Caleb hang out most often. My other goal would be to see if people are interested in continuing the NecroNet reports work I post daily at the Waish Building, but for NT facilities across the suburb, as it would create an information network that anyone could benefit from regardless of where they are in that surburb. --Mobius187 18:00, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)

I think the infomation on Sirl Plaza is insufficient to ensure that it retain a page on its own, now that it's no longer a revive point. I added in the tagging and barricading data to bulk it up somewhat, but I see you've removed it. It needs to get a bit more content though to get OddStarter off my back that location pages are just a waste of space on the wiki. See if you can "create" a History section regarding the revive point and perhaps something comedic... like how now that it's no longer occupied by dozens of zombies seeking revivification, you can play hopscotch there or something...

Likewise the Farbrother Building also needs work. Check out the MalTel page and see if anyone has volunteered to take care of the phone mast. Perhaps the Friends of the Featherstone Library has taken on that responsibility - they seem to be a cornerstone in Pescodside.

Lastly, and this isn't a wiki thing, perhaps it would be good for you to organise an umbrella group for all the "good" (non-PK, non-gK, non-zombie) human groups in and around the suburb to coordinate the activities within the suburb. --Nov ^{W!, Talk} 01:28, 21 March 2006 (GMT)

User/Group Requests

Are you a member of a group, especially one in the NE Corner of Malton? Then feel free to drop a line and make requests for updates, or just make suggestions on what you would like to see in the suburbs. If I can help make those requests come true, I'll do it. Also, if I've done something you feel is wrong, be sure to point it out. I feel it's important to get both positive and negative feedback in order to improve my work. Please post the newest requests at the top.

I Hate New Things

Hello, Caleb, it's Colin here. To keep it cut simple, I'm having problems with baby's first templates (or, as I call the things, userboxes). Located here and here, the damn things refuse to stack nicely, and are continually pulling the line below them up to sit with them (this problem can be viewed in detail here). I have no gods-rotted idea how to fix this- can you help? --Boris 18:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Your request was actually buried, but fortunately I check every now and then for buried requests. As requested your template wikipage is now a sparkling vision or organization, sure to be the envy of many other users. Enjoy. ;) --Mobius187 18:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: Oh, and in case you ever do want to try and sort templates in the future, the problem was that templates do not play well together. Each one wants its own line and templates will not sit beside one another. A table is the best way to organize templates so they stack side-by-side. --Mobius187 18:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Flustered Brethren

I've got a favor to ask of you, mainly because HTML is like moonspeak to me. Granted, I could go be a dirty little thief, but I only do that for myself. The Flustered Brethren page is a bit cluttered and unwieldy, not to mention lacking an awesome layout. I was wondering if you could get together with their leader and see what he wants out of the layout, and hopefully cobble him one together quickly. He wants a cool layout, but he's got that reluctance to ask thing going on. --R.Marsh 17:43, 12 October 2007 (BST)

Actually I've departed from the group wikipage building area. Twohundred made a similar request for King Murek's Army and I had to turn him down. The work takes a fair bit of time and effort, and most of that time has recently been redirected to other hobbies. This was part of my "I'm leaving soon" decision and while I'm active again on teh forums (something I hadn't intended) I'm trying to stick to only maintenance work on the UD Wiki. Of course you can tell them taht they are free to borrow any/all wikicode I've written for other groups and then apply it to their wikipage. --Mobius187 October 13 2007, 2:25 PM (EST)

Speaking of which... i took the liberty of pilfering your html code and applying it to the FLUB's wiki page. I haven't heard back from them yet, but i know some html (i always had trouble with tables though...) so I should able to craft it to whatever they want. Hopefully, that is. BTW, the base design is really nice, how long did it take you to cook up? --Kikashie ^ELT 21:29, 14 October 2007 (BST)

Hard to say, as it was a "work in progress" and I added to it over time. The best wiki groupage I created though would have to be the one for the BAR. I still keep adding to theirs, but mostly as news and updating their Deadbeat list. It's good that you guys are helping each other as its important to build a wiki community where everyone is willing to pitch in some help every now and then. :) --Mobius187 October 14 2007, 4:35 PM (EST)

Saving You Time

{quote|Mobius187|Actually I had trouble with any group that was a sub-group of a group. The double asterisk worked well for groups belonging to organizations, but presented problems for groups like the RRF's Gore Corps, not the least of which has to do with the fact that they would be listed as both Zombie and Hostile... while RRF would be strictly Zombie.} Let me save you a lot of time here, the Gore Corps are not a group, they are a strike team, the group they are in is the RRF, they do function as zombies. List them as Ridleybank Resistance Front, not Gore Corps. Same goes for every other RRF strike team, they are RRF, RRF is a zombie group.--Karek^maps?! 20:05, 4 August 2007 (BST)

Will do. So, just to be clear, if the Gore Corps are active within a suburb it should be considered that the RRF are active in that suburb and it would be the RRF would be added to the suburb listing, correct? On that note, has there been a case yet where the Gore Corps have added RRF to a group listing for any suburb to date? Should there be one for their current activity in the NE Corner (i.e. Rhodenbank)? Or do they prefer not to be listed unless part of an active siege (i.e. secret activity)? --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 3:10 PM (EST)

Actually they usually don't list, most of the RRF doesn't even bother with it. It's part of the reason why the RRF isn't spammed on tons of pages like other groups. The news shows when or if the RRF were active there so there is little point in adding it to the group page. But it is a common mistake that the Gore Corps only does things as harmans, there have been many a time where they have performed strikes as zombies and do it semiregularly. If you feel like adding them I don't think anyone will care(if you really want someones permission ask on their talk page they respond somewhat fast), but odds are they won't do it themselves.--Karek^maps?! 20:16, 4 August 2007 (BST)

Malton Forensics Unit

Hey, Mobius. I think the new suburb group listings you created are a big improvement. Can I ask, though, that you leave MFU as double-asterisked under DEM rather than triple-asterisked under DEM>MPD, as in this edit for example? It's not just an aesthetic thing, though that's a factor; there are suburbs where MFU has a presence and MPD doesn't. Additionally, within the DEM, MFU is considered a core group just like MPD, and is not strictly a subgroup of the latter any longer. Thanks for all the work you put in on suburb and locations pages, and good luck with your promo bid. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 20:51, 3 August 2007 (BST)

Actually I had trouble with any group that was a sub-group of a group. The double asterisk worked well for groups belonging to organizations, but presented problems for groups like the RRF's Gore Corps, not the least of which has to do with the fact that they would be listed as both Zombie and Hostile... while RRF would be strictly Zombie. Yet how could you list the Gore Corps as a sub-group of the RRF, without making people think they were "hostile" (i.e. PKers/death cultists) too. Triple asterisks were even more troublesome in a way. I'm almost of the opinion that sub-groups of groups should simply be listed on their own, unless part of an organizations (i.e. DEM). On the matter of the MFU I believe I spotted listed somewhere as a sub-group of the MPD... and that's where the confusion started. Obviously now that you've informed me of this fact I won't make that mistake again. I take it though that MEM is a sub-group of MFD though? Or is its relationship more like the MFU's and MPD's? Lastly, I'm thinking I might shrink the icons for all sub-groups (check Dulston for the Alliance's sub-group icons). Would the DEM also possibly consider the creation of suburb icons that better meet the 25x25 scale? I didn't want to tamper with them, although I did create a smaller MFD icon. --Mobius187 August 3 2007, 4:41 PM (EST)

Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, the MFD/MEMS relationship is very much the same as MPD/MFU: began as a subgroup, is now much less so and is definitely considered a DEM core group as well. I think single asterisk for DEM, double for any member groups, is the simplest solution, and hopefully that will carry over to other organizations as well (making your job easier, I trust). As far as new badge icons, I'll mention something to Jarl, the MPD's main wiki editor lately, and see whether he would want to undertake something like that - I wouldn't have a problem seeing what you come up with, if that's something you choose to undertake yourself, but Jarl should have a say too. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 22:29, 3 August 2007 (BST)

I'm in no rush, so let me know what Jarl has to say first and then we'll proceed from there. --Mobius187 August 3 2007, 5:33 PM (EST)

Hey folks. Thanks for consulting me for the image. Appreciate it. I've resized the new MPD badge into a square 25 px image:

I think it looks fine. I agree considering their own leadership and group size, the MFU should be considered as another DEM core group. The Marshals should be considered as an MPD subgroup. Plz use the same icon for them if possible. Thanks! Jarlian 09:56, 4 August 2007 (BST)

I'll make sure that every suburb entry for MPD, MM, and MFU uses this icon. I suppose that would be one factor in determining that all three groups are directly connected (i.e. use the same group icon). On the matter of the MFD and MEM, what should be done about their icon? Would you be able to determine if they want a new icon, or the 25x25 "zoomed-in" icon I created:

? Let me know, but for now I'll leave it "as is" (which would be using my icon). --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 11:46 AM (EST)

I think your MFD icon is probably fine, Mobius, but I'll check with a couple of MFD people to be certain. I'm not sure that any suburbs would have MM listed as an active group, but it's possible; if there are any, though, I have to politely disagree with Jarlian on whether they're an MPD subgroup anymore. :) Very similar situation to the MPD/MFU. -- Atticus Rex ^{mfu pif} Δ 18:03, 4 August 2007 (BST)

You make a good point about the MM. They are one of the more spread-out/mobile groups in Malton. I find it hard to believe they would be listed in any single suburb, but I do recall at least one suburb out there had them listed (actually had every DEM group listed as I recall). I ran across it during the whole "suburb group template" update. If I find it I intend to remove the MM from it, on the basis that they are mobile. If the MM should disagree please ask them to add themselves back to any suburbs they wish. --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 1:06 PM (EST)

I like the MFD icon, but I'm not sure about the background - I'd prefer to see the icon on a transparant background I think. --Kal 18:57, 4 August 2007 (BST)

As in the fireman/fireaxe silhouette on a white/clear background? I'll see what I can do. Personally I'm of the opinion that the best icons are ones that you can easily identify at 25x25 scale. Take the icon for FANNY... it's one of the best I've seen as even though it has a lot of detail, it's clear and crisp. I would like to do the same for the MFD, if you will allow it. I was thinking perhaps you might want to consider even one of these badges (scroll down). In particular the one tagged as Firefighting Logo:EQ0176, as I tested it just now by removing the blue "petals" and focusing on the image inside the blue circle. It looked nice. But if you're looking for something more along the lines of what you already have might I suggest this one. Let me know which you would prefer. I am to please. ;) --Mobius187 August 4 2007, 2:10 PM (EST)

Well... I've only been in the MFD for a month, (I was in the MEMS before that.) so I don't know why you called me in and not Davinos, but I think it looks fine too.--Labine50 ^MHG|MEMS 23:31, 4 August 2007 (BST)

The Batwing Brigade

Thanks for your message. It isn't really our way (yet, anyway) to permanently hold territory, not least because we are still so few. I for one look forward to doing a club night at the Mold some time in the future, possibly two months from now or so. One of us will probably drop in to check out the surroundings before then anyway.
--Penny Black 09:37, 28 May 2007 (BST)

Certainly. When you do send someone over it might help if they perhaps brought with them some decorations. Skeletons/skulls, that sort of thing, so as to improve the club's atmosphere as a Goth club. For my part I will speak with the Sex Possy and inform them of the possibility that your group, at some point in the future, move into that building. Whether that is a claim of ownership, I'll leave that for you to decide at that time. But for now the Sex Possy oversees all clubs in Dulston, so if you do claim ownership I'll need to smooth things over with them. It shouldn't really be a problem, especially since I see no reason for either group to do anything that would offend the other. --Mobius187 May 28 2007, 7:49 AM (EST)

Dunningwood Warriors Image

Hi, I changed the image on the Dunningwood page for the Dunningwood Warriors back to what it was. Although it may not be a very visualy appealing image when shrunk down I would appreciate it if you wouldn't change it, or if you want it changed to request so on our group page. Thanks in advance. - Jedaz^{ΣT MC ΞD CT SR: 13:37, 23 May 2007 (GMT)}

Fair enough. In the past my policy has been to update first, and then if a group wants to discuss using a new image I'm always willing to replace it. This often works better than asking each and every group first for permission as most usually appreciate the effort, like Red Rum who now use my thumbnail image for even some of their user signatures, or simply do not care. My interest is improving the quality of the suburb wikipages, in this case by creating small identifiable icons for each group (wherever possible). I've posted my request on your group's wikipage as per your request. Let me know how I can help. --Mobius187 May 23 2007, 9:44 AM (EST)

Malton Examiner

I wish to offer you a position in the Malton Examiner. From what I have seen you would make a good reporter--Seloth 19:05, 22 April 2007 (GMT)

I will need to consider the offer. Up until now though my sole interests in Malton revolve around the NE Corner suburbs. With most of my work being related to location wikipages and group wikipages. Also, if I did join the Malton Examiner does the publication hold any bias, for example, towards the Malton Mob?

On the topic of the Malton Mob, and the Rolt Heights War in particular, I should mention I have been in talks with the BAR and they have asked me (aka Caleb Usher) to write up a response to your previous suburb news post. I of course harbor a degree of reluctance in this task as I have seen in the past that when users possess different points of view in the "news" it leads to conflict, which in turn often leads to vandalism. I would hope that that should I post such a news item that any response should be kept short. I will also try to dissuade the BAR from pursuing any further inflammatory news items, but they do feel that while disputing the execution claim was not noteworthy, insulting their pub was. I admit I usually try to avoid getting caught up in conflicts of that nature, and certainly try not to provoke them, but in this case I believe a response is forthcoming regardless of my wishes, so I have offered to temper it to preserve the neutrality of the suburb wikipage's news.

As a reported I would hope I could rely on you not to be tempted into responding harshly, if at all. It is my firm belief that news may be news, but in-game actions speak much louder. As such, if the BAR has offended you please take it up with the in Urban Dead as you see fit. Please do not initiate a “war of words” in the suburb’s news section. But perhaps I am being overly paranoid, an attribute I assure you is one born of experience through similar issues which I have been forced to litigate, much to my discomfort. So again, to summarize if it were, I will consider your offer to report news for the Malton Examiner, and on a different note I ask you not to react too hastily to any new news reports from the BAR. In turn I will ask them to forsake any future news reports that might be deemed offensive. I also hope that, as I worked with Torec in the past to source facts about Cybele’s Slayers, I might work with you for the duration of your group's stay in Rolt Heights to shed some light on the Malton Mob's involvement. While I normally do not care much for PKers or their groups, the neutrality and factual nature of the suburb news section must be upheld. --Mobius187 April 22 2007, 4:05 PM (EST)

EDIT - It appears there was no need for me to be concerned. While the BAR did post my suggested "toned down" news item (although I heard some edits were made to it) Vigeous, a member of the PKA, decided the best solution was to remove both the original news post and the BAR's follow-up. I agree that news of that nature should not be brought into the suburb's wikipage. On the matter of the 4 alleged execution, perhaps it may have slipped your mind, but I have seen the screenshots proving each execution against Mr Shadows. Also you yourself can review each place and date on the BAR's "Deadbeat" list (refer to their group's wikipage). I can assure you, they were all valid, with "valid" kills referring to those where a BAR member delivered the final blow. --Mobius187 April 22 2007, 5:04 PM (EST)

The Last Stand

Hello! I offer you my apologies for taking so long to get back to you. the logo that you gave my group is fine. Thank you by the way, I was having some trouble trying to get a logo on. Again, sorry it took me so long, ive had a multitude of computer issues that have just been sorted out, and on May 21, I have to report to Basic Training, so i will be out of this game almost all summer... Before I go, do you happen to know the whereabouts of Officer Murphy, of DvB? Thanks a million! -Jack Sorrows (also..forgive me for not knowing how to properly 'sign' this message).

No prob, although you have been gone so long from the Dulston Alliance we had recently discussed "burying" The Last Stand. As you can imagine, there is not a lot to keeping groups listed as with the Alliance if they've faded from the game. Let me know if you concur with me about the status of your group or if you are still around (as a group that is). Officer Murphy is AWOL these days. Or at least he never appears on the Alliance forum like he used to. If you want to contact someone in DvB I would suggest Cheeser. Lastly, did you want a full-size version of that logo for your group's wikipage? I should be able to recreate it. Let me know. --Mobius187 May 14 2007, 7:48 PM

Ok, well, as for our group numbers, we seem to have been severely crippled. Members that i know of that are FOR SURE still around are Saegent Jack, The Liberator V, and myself. Possibly Fighting Day and Xigbar two, but the first three for SURE. I don't know, I really hate to see my group fall apart..i put a lot of work into it last summer. But, even if we totally fall apart, the still active members all want to be involved with the DA somehow, in any way that they could use us. So no word on Officer Murphy, eh? Strange....Ok, do you know the whereabouts of Cheesy, or any member of DvB for that matter? The first three names that I mentioned are all in Brokbury Row Fire Station in [91,10] awaiting orders, or some lead on where to go. And as for that logo, if it's not too much trouble for you to put it on our page, that would be nice. Just don't go out of your way to do so, i understand that your quite the busy guy. Thanks, I'll be in touch. --Jack Sorrows May 14 2007 6:08 PM

Let me begin by stating that I too hate to see groups slip away. Unfortunately it's a fact of life here in UD that no group is eternal. Well, I mean the BAR is good, but I helped them out so that may account for some of it. If I may suggest, communication might be better established if you were to use your forum, by yours I mean the one assigned to you by the Dulston Alliance here. That's your group's own public group section. Maybe it will help communication in your group as it avoids the wiki. On the matter of the DvB, their group has also seen better days. Their current membership sits around 11 active members. Their efforts appear to have shifted over to a sub-group they created called "DvB: SWEEPZ" over in Ruddlebank. If you are looking to team up with anyone I would suggest looking to some of the more active groups: the FotFL, the PDA, the DITPS, MF, or even the ELT. That or you could ask me, but my status is strictly diplomat. If you are interested in rejoining the DA's forum contact Cheeser for the password to the Lodge... the DA's private forum. My final advice? Start recruiting... I suggest resource building. Have all your guys in one place, helping out and talking. Make people see you are more than just one guy helping out. In turn I will see what I can do about your wiki. For that I will need your permission to redesign it. Do I have your permission? --Mobius187 May 15 2007, 8:34 PM

Ok. I got word from members Fighting Day and Xig2, they are going to be active in the game again. I will get on the forum again, I used to be pretty active on it, but in my hiatus from UD I kind of forgot about it. I will start recruiting efforts as soon as I get this message finished, but I don't how the recruiting will go, seeing as how myself, Sargent Jack, and The Liberator V all have Basic Combat Training this summer. You most definitely have my permission to redesign my page. Oh, before I forget, I think I will try to link up with the PDA. I made pretty good friends with their leader Lemonhead the last time the Big Bash was in Dulston. We were stuck in the same building for about two weeks. Thank you, I will be in touch. --Jack Sorrows May 16 2007 22:00

Ah, military life. What can you do? I'm not sure, but considering that when you leave for Basic Training your group will lose its leader and more than half its current force that this alone may kill your group. I mean if you had 20 guys and you placed another guy in command while you were away it would be different, but it kills recruitment when you lose that many members so quickly and so soon. The suggestion that perhaps you should join another Dulston Alliance group, maybe even the PDA, is still on the table. This way you bring up their group by 5 members (16 total), and then when you leave with your friends they drop back down to 13 members. The PDA would live on and later you could return to them. Your call, but I would seriously consider it as you would be doing them a favor by supporting them and not turn TLS into a yo-yo group that appears and disappears from UD due to its numbers (or lack thereof). Again, your call. Should you still wish to continue with your group (TLS) then I'll redesign your group wikipage. --Mobius187 May 17 2007, 7:59 AM

I am attempeting to make contact with the PDA, and I think I have gotten somewhere with it. I will continue to try to make that merger official. ----Jack Sorrows May 18, 2007 16:52 UPDATE: The merger is official. ----Jack Sorrows May, 19 21:19

The Electric Light Torchestra

Hullo. We at the ELT just acquired the old factory as our HQ. Do you have any suggestions on how to change the wiki page? Especially concerning the official stuff, just go ahead. Trivia and such will be provided step by step by the members. Btw., the glue there really smells appetizingly --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 09:17, 13 April 2007 (BST)

No problem. By "official stuff", I take it you mean where the group ownership is recorded on the location's wikipage, right? I'll add that. The question I have is does your group disagree with the set barricade level for this building (EH)? If not, great, I'll say your group supports and enforces it. If you disagree then let me know what it should be and I'll change it to that, but note that it goes against the standard suburb policy. Other than that it's simply a matter of mentioning you in a new paragraph under the Description and a news item under Current Events. --Mobius187 April 13 2007, 8:12 AM (EST)

We'll stick to the standard policy, of course. Thanks in advance. See you around, --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 15:53, 13 April 2007 (BST)

Oh, in case you didn't spot it. Be sure to check my forum post in your group's section on this matter. Let me know what you think about my suggestion. After that, I'll proceed however you want me to. --Mobius187 April 13 2007, 10:57 AM (EST)

ELT - No templates. Ever :-)

Hi. It is, in fact, a little joke. While I'm no fan of plastering my user page with them, I do use some hand picked templates. I use a signature template, after all. I would like to put up the DA template, but I'd like it to go either to the right of my user pic or to the right of the "It never ends" template, just above the "No templates" template. So I don't have to start a third row, if possible. But I have no clue how to allign that stuff. So if you can spare a minute, I would be gracious if you could put it there for me. Please? Regards, --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 11:52, 10 April 2007 (BST)

Me likes! Thanks for the job. Especially for the categories. I think. Important stuff, they say :-) Right now I don't want a user template, but if I ever will I know where to look for a good example. How can I ever pay you back? --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 11:13, 11 April 2007 (BST)

Continue helping survivors. That's all I ask. :) --Mobius187 April 11 2007, 6:14 AM (EST)

I will. As long as I'm alive. And probably beyond death. --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 11:44, 11 April 2007 (BST)

Glad to hear it. --Mobius187 April 11 2007, 7:52 AM (EST)

Freelance Military Operations

Hey, thanks for getting in contact. However the group is currently at 3 members and discussions are being held about where to go next, so i dont believe you will have to add us to the group lists. Thanks anyway! If we end up staying, ill notify you. --Kaisuke 08:01, 28 March 2007 (BST)

The Electric Light Torchestra facelift

Hi Mobius. It's me again. I'm still in favour of the changes (also, the new ones sound good to me), but I want to wait for PsychoLychee to decide, as I mentioned before. Also, as you may have observed, our group activity on the wiki seems to be a little lazy the last days. I hope this will change soon, and that we can recruit some new members. We'll approach you when we're back in (real) action. --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 18:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yo. And AGAIN. This time I bring actual news. I got a message from PsychoLychee and he thinks you rock in page-making (or that you have way too much time on your hands, but no matter as long as the results are that good:-). So I officially invite you to revamp all of our wiki pages, but please use black text or something else that suits the page, as long as the text is not blue (because we think links should be blue). I'm looking forward to the new design, keep rocking. --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 10:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Great work, Mobius. Will you be changing our Light-Map as well when you find the time? Pretty please! :-) --Balcony Jedi^ELT|Talk! 16:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Rhodenbank/RCDC

Thanks for the cleanup of of the suburb and RCDC pages, though editing signed comments may be a bit too much. Anyway, some things have needed an overhaul for a while, but the member(s) who set the pages up haven't been heard from in a while. I've done a few tweaks here and there but haven't had the time / knowledge to really fix it. It does look a bit weird right now, but I'm sure we'll get used to it. I suppose you should have asked before changing our group page, but I'll put up a poll on our forum about keeping the changes. --Schloss Ritter 05:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sometimes I like to just jump right in. In most cases if the site is in good order I can restrain myself, but the RCDC page had some serious format issues like that one thin column of text that stretched itself out and the broken image link (due, I'm sure, to a Mod Deletion). I tried my best to resolve the issues while maintaining what you guys originally had in place, but without a major re-work I couldn't get the coloured text box in the top section. Instead I borrowed from Newgrounds and opted to give you guys one overall colour theme. Of course that's not to say my work is the end-all and be-all of what you guys should have. You can certainly undo it or edit it as your group sees fit. That, or if you want further edits, just let me know (i.e. changing the colour scheme). My objective is a simple one, to improve the look and feel of the wikipages in the NE Corner suburbs, but at the same time I'll respect whatever you guys want your wikipage to look like. --Mobius187 February 13 2007, 7:50 AM (EST)

The Safety Patrol

We are currently occupying the Holdway Museum, adjacent to the carpark revive point and near to Anne General and Downe Towers. We would be grateful if you could create a page. --Otware 12:16, 12 April 2006 (BST)

Dead vs Blue

Not really sure how you would like us to get a hold of you, if this is not the way let me know. I am talking to my group right now. I’ll let you know which building we pick. Is there any which are "off limits"?

Also, thanks for the suggestion. --Larith 22:56, 27 February 2006 (GMT)

Looks like we have picked the Downe Towers as our HQ. It also looks like we are in the midst of talking to the Dulston Alliance about setting up another building that we can both run apart from our own headquarters. Think of it as an emergency shelter and way to contact and get to know some of their members. I'll keep you up to date on what happens with that.

That’s a great idea. I’ve been wanting to spend some time to figure out an easier way to tell who’s who. I’ll swing the idea by the group. I’m not sure if I can get everyone to make their own, but I think most will. Thanks for all your help! --Larith 06:57, 2 March 2006 (GMT)

It seems that the "vs" page has been taken by someone else? I tried to move the "Vs" page to the "vs" page but it wouldn’t let me. If you can figure it out, be my guest.

To be honest I’m not even sure why I picked "Vs" to begin with. Just another one of the great mysteries of life I guess...
--Larith 06:47, 9 March 2006 (GMT)

So does the "Vs" page just redirect you to the "vs" page now?
--Larith 21:41, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

Yeah I’ve heard some people talking about the ant-dvb tags around. I don’t think we are to worried about them. When we find them we try and get rid of them...

Not really sure who or why anyone is doing it though... --Larith 00:52, 17 March 2006 (GMT)

New Branch Wiki

Mobius, you said you were willing to make a sub page for our new branch. If you would that would be fantastic. Here is some info:

Dead vs Blue: SouthWest Expedition for Eradication and Protection from Zombies.

DvB:SWEEPZ

HQ at the Baillie Hotel 18, 82.

Thank you for all of your work.
-- Cheeser, ^DvB|DA 19:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. While it took a bit, the new DvB:SWEEPZ sub-group wikipage was not as demanding as the original Dead vs Blue wikipage. Although creating the group icon did take me an extra hour (mostly getting it "just right" and sized properly). I hope you and everyone in the new branch of the DvB has fun over in Ruddlebank. --Mobius187 February 20 2007, 9:44 AM (EST)

Channel 4 News Team

Yeah, I took the story about Wes Mantooth's Hatchet Man out of The News because the guy in the story took off to hunt someone else and issued a formal sort of "you're not a beardo" statement.

As for the thing on the CMS wiki, he wrote it, I laughed, and we reached an amicable solution such that "Burgundy Killers" would continue to amuse me while not making my death a contest. Someone seems to have deleted it, though, so I guess it's all over.

Anyway, thanks for watching my back and you stay Classy! --Ron Burgundy 02:29, 21 March 2006 (GMT)

MFD in Dulston

Looking at our duty roster, it appears Dulston has exaclty one MFD member in residence, who thus has captaincy of the suburb--name of Grifflik. you may also want to remember the name MFDhunk, as he has the Marshallship of Dulston and four other suburbs (see the MFD Command page.)--'STER-Talk-Mod 20:49, 22 February 2006 (GMT)

TNT07

Well, if he did join, it's not under his name because "ahzid" isn't a registered member on the TNT board. By the way, I quit just now, so you might want to talk to Swiers.--Labine50 ^MH|^ME|^TNT'07 18:46, 5 May 2007 (BST)

ATO

Hey dude, the Beale Building is free, are we cool to take it as a HQ? Also, myself and Dancedance want to keep it at extremely heavily barricaded, as there's already an entry point next door. What are your thoughts?--Lewin 06:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I would say that you can turn the Beale Building into your new HQ, as I know no other Alliance group is using it at this time. I will still need to confer with the newest member group, the Flustered Brethren, but as I recall their HQ is Spicer Row Police Department (aka, they're your next door neighbours) and that shouldn't be a problem. If anything it should allow your two groups to work closely together. --Mobius187 11:12 AM, November 12 2007 (EST)

Template

Thanks for the new, shorter ally template. Could you do this with our member template too? --ScouterTX 14:25, 23 October 2008 (BST)

And me again. Can you do us another favor and put a border around the whole groupname, moe and chaotic good part? I can't figure it out. --ScouterTX 02:01, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. I should also mention that with your new "extended" Group Policy section there is a lot of empty space in the right column. Originally when I reformatted your group wikipage I had tried to reduce its length (vertical scrolling), but if you do have that much space you may want to consider splitting your templates (bottom of your wikipage) into two groups, important ones and not-so-important ones. Then place said important templates into the right column, one above the other. The width should support it for most of them. Obviously don't include any ones that are too wide. A suggestion, create news templates supporting your group's ideals, and then add them into the group wikipage. --Mobius 13:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll try that, thanks.--ScouterTX 01:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, couldn't figure out how to get our pic up there...damn, I suck at wiki ;) --ScouterTX 00:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

N00dles

Mobius, your work on the N00dles page is amazing. The whole thing looks good. The colors are outstanding, nice job. Thanks dood. Met fan 03:04, 15 December 2008 (UTC)